Since the contenders for the overall 2016 UCI MTB DH World Cup season win slotted into place last weekend, they haven't had much time to rest on their laurels. The World Championships are upon us this weekend in the form of an all guns blazing race for glory on the highly technical track of Val di Sole in Italy.
Aaron Gwin has been the most successful Elite Men rider in Val di Sole, with Gee Atherton one race-win behind, although unlike Atherton, Gwin has never been able to win a World Champs, let alone a World Champs in Val di Sole. Meanwhile, Rachel has won here even more than Gwin, including a World Champs, with Myriam Nicole being her closest rival on the track; Nicole has twice come second to Atherton and even beat her to take the win in 2011. Could an on-form Pompon repeat her victory and deny Rachel the crowning glory of her year?
This is also a track where the Elite Men's G.O.A.T. has come incredibly close but has never won; Minnaar has secured two second-place finishes and a third. Can he buck the trend and make it work this weekend, after his strong season? Certainly, another World Championship win for MTB's history-maker would be yet another momentous occasion. And you can image the party afterward...the Italians won't know what's hit them!
Pride, honor, and national glory are all at stake, but the World Champs is also a chance for riders and teams to go all out with their kit and bikes. Nation-inspired colourways will be on show - like Aaron Gwin's Team USA YT Tues featured here - and it's that sort of thing that makes the World Champs that much more special.
The Val di Sole course is certainly renowned as one of the most challenging, so what better way to see the sun set on another year of fantastic international downhill racing.
THE TRACK
There are three major differences to the World Champs course, as compared to last year's World Cup track. No longer do riders have to navigate the two lethal-looking North Shore-inspired sections in the upper woods (just after the Wall and Strada Romana AKA the Roman Road). According to the organisers, the top of the track will now be longer, with a fast flowing section and a road gap.
The diversion away from the boardwalk sections will no doubt be a huge relief to riders, as last year they got seriously wet and claimed a number of victims over the World Cup weekend. Other than that, the track stays virtually the same, winding down past Curva Ravelli, the Trentino jump, and the Hell. Unlike last year, conditions are looking prime...the Italian loam in the woods will be taking a beating, though, and it may turn into another dust-mageddon as we saw at last weekend's race in Andorra.
THE WEATHER
THE CURSE OF THE RAINBOW STRIPES - REAL OR CODSWALLOP?
Over the years, fans and riders alike have got themselves all in a fluster about whether the coveted Rainbow Stripes jersey - the UCI jersey that goes to the victors in the Elite Men, Elite Women and Junior categories - brings bad luck to whoever wears it the following year. So what's the real story?
Looking through the history books, a few Elite Men riders have managed to prove that the curse doesn't exist, by not just taking the World Champs but also taking the overall in the World Cup the following year (or at least be in the top three podium finishes). These riders include:
World Champ 1995, World Cup overall winner 1996 - Nicolas Vouilloz
World Champ 1997, World Cup overall winner 1998 - Nicolas Vouilloz
World Champ 1998, World Cup overall winner 1999 - Nicolas Vouilloz
World Champ 1999, World Cup overall winner 2000 - Nicolas Vouilloz
World Champ 2006, World Cup overall winner 2007 - Sam Hill
World Champ 2007, World Cup overall second-place 2008 - Sam Hill
World Champ 2012, World Cup overall third-place 2013 - Greg Minnaar
But those are the lucky few. Going back to 1992, out of 24 World Champs, 17 of those who held the Rainbow Jersey the following year were unable to finish in the top three places for the overall of the World Cup series.
The Elite Women have seemingly fared better. Riders who have been successful include:
World Champ 1995, World Cup overall third-place 1996 - Leigh Donovan
World Champ 1996, World Cup overall second-place 1997 - Anne-Caroline Chausson
World Champ 1997, World Cup overall winner 1998 - Anne-Caroline Chausson
World Champ 1998, World Cup overall winner 1999 - Anne-Caroline Chausson
World Champ 1999, World Cup overall winner 2000 - Anne-Caroline Chausson
World Champ 2000, World Cup overall winner 2001 - Anne-Caroline Chausson
World Champ 2001, World Cup overall winner 2002 - Anne-Caroline Chausson
World Champ 2006, World Cup overall winner 2007 - Sabrina Jonnier
World Champ 2007, World Cup overall second-place 2008 - Sabrina Jonnier
World Champ 2010, World Cup overall winner 2011 - Tracy Moseley
World Champ 2011, World Cup overall second-place 2012 - Emmeline Ragot
World Champ 2013, World Cup overall second-place 2014 - Rachel Atherton
World Champ 2014, World Cup overall second-place 2015 - Manon Carpenter
World Champ 2015, World Cup overall winner 2016 - Rachel Atherton
A curse? So it's all in the mind, right? But you know how superstitious pro-mountain bikers are...and according to the statistics, it's the men who succumb to the curse more than the women.
ACC back in 2005 on her World Championship gold medal run in Livigno, Italy. Despite being able to do the double multiple times, she was unable to hold onto the World Cup overall the following year.
TO THE SPOILS...THE FRENCH
France has been the most successful World Champs nation when it comes to Elite Men's results, followed by Great Britain and the USA (Great Britain is second in the medal tables because it has secured one more silver medal than the USA). The mightiness of Greg Minnaar single-handedly puts South Africa in fourth place (yep, that's three golds, four silver, and three bronze medals!)
NATIONALITIES OF HISTORICAL UCI WORLD MTB DH WORLD CHAMPIONS - ELITE MEN
NATION
GOLD
SILVER
BRONZE
France
11
5
5
Great Britain
4
6
2
USA
4
5
5
South Africa
3
4
3
Australia
3
2
7
Switzerland
1
-
-
Italy, Netherlands, Canada
-
1
1
Sweden
-
1
New Zealand
-
-
1
The same top three nations apply for the Elite Women as well, with France on 14 golds, the UK on five and the USA on three.
NATIONALITIES OF HISTORICAL UCI WORLD MTB DH WORLD CHAMPIONS - ELITE WOMEN
NATION
GOLD
SILVER
BRONZE
France
14
9
5
Great Britain
5
8
3
USA
3
3
8
Italy
2
-
2
Canada
1
1
3
New Zealand
1
-
-
Finland
-
2
1
Spain, Japan, Switzerland
-
1
1
Australia
-
-
3
PREDICTIONS
I'm not sure if this is a prediction or pure hope, but dear God, I want to see Danny Hart destroy a World Championship hill again.
After knowing the man since he was a boy and his family, I don't believe there's any rider with as much focus, love, accumulated race time and will to put in the hard graft as Danny over so much of his 24 years. Three World Cup wins in a row followed by another dash of rainbow stripes would be a dream. Brosnan will follow, his season of rough luck will finally look up. Gwin will put down a perfect run too, but I feel the American's pace is off of the two young boys at this point in the season.
Rachel continues to be unbelievable, and must be close to being one of the best performing athletes in any sport, ever. I think she's going to embarrass many men's times in Val Di Sole. Tracey Hannah will continue with her good form and take a silver medal. With Carpenter seemingly off the pace recently, Tahnee will grab a bronze medal despite a body full of bruises and a shaken head after a brutal season. - Paul Aston, Pinkbike's World Champs Soothsayer
PREVIOUS PODIUMS AT VAL DI SOLE
HISTORICAL ELITE MEN RESULTS - VAL DI SOLE
DATE
POSITION
NAME
TEAM
WINNING TIME
GAP
2015
1st
Aaron GWIN
Specialized Racing
3:31.922
-
2015
2nd
Loic BRUNI
Lapierre Gravity Republic
3:33.511
+1.589s
2015
3rd
Troy BROSNAN
Specialized Racing
3:33.776
+1.854s
2013
1st
Gee ATHERTON
GT Factory Racing
3:12.185
-
2013
2nd
Steve Smith
Devinci Global Racing
3:13.186
+1.001s
2013
3rd
Greg MINNAAR
Santa Cruz Syndicate
3:13.435
+1.250s
2012
1st
Aaron GWIN
Trek World Racing
3:10.577
-
2012
2nd
Greg MINNAAR
Santa Cruz Syndicate
3:18.427
+7.850s
2012
3rd
Gee ATHERTON
GT Factory Racing
3:18.970
+8.393s
2011
1st
Aaron GWIN
Trek World Racing
3:10.356
-
2011
2nd
Danny HART
Giant Factory Off Road Team
3:11.588
+1.232s
2011
3rd
Gee ATHERTON
Animal Commencal
3:14.470
+4.114s
2010
1st
Marc BEAUMONT
GT Bikes
3:17.850
-
2010
2nd
Greg MINNAAR
Santa Cruz Syndicate
3:19.250
+1.400s
2010
3rd
Gee ATHERTON
Animal Commencal
3:20.510
+2.660s
2008*
1st
Gee ATHERTON
Great Britain
3:12.120
-
2008*
2nd
Steve PEAT
Great Britain
3:14.740
+2.620s
2008*
3rd
Sam HILL
Australia
3:15.270
+3.150s
HISTORICAL ELITE WOMEN RESULTS - VAL DI SOLE
DATE
POSITION
NAME
TEAM
WINNING TIME
GAP
2015
1st
Rachel Atherton
GT Factory Racing
4:08.636
-
2015
2nd
Myriam NICOLE
Commencal Vallnord
4:10.875
+2.239s
2015
3rd
Manon CARPENTER
Madison Saracen Factory
4:15.080
+6.444s
2013
1st
Rachel ATHERTON
GT Factory Racing
3:43.810
-
2013
2nd
Emmeline RAGOT
Lapierre Gravity Republic
3:49.045
+5.235s
2013
3rd
Floriane PUGIN
Gstaad Scott
3:55.863
+12.053s
2012
1st
Rachel ATHERTON
GT Factory Racing
3:49.436
-
2012
2nd
Myriam NICOLE
Commencal Riding Addiction
3:53.921
+4.485s
2012
3rd
Emmeline RAGOT
MS Mondraker
3:57.519
+8.083s
2011
1st
Myriam NICOLE
Commencal Riding Addiction
3:52.231
-
2011
2nd
Floriane PUGIN
Scott 11
3:53.040
+0.809s
2011
3rd
Rachel ATHERTON
Animal Commencal
3:54.405
+2.174s
2010
1st
Emmeline RAGOT
-
3:59.750
-
2010
2nd
Sabrina JONNIER
-
4:02.150
+2.400s
2010
3rd
Tracy MOSELEY
-
4:06.250
+6.500s
2008*
1st
Rachel ATHERTON
Great Britain
3:49.920
-
2008*
2nd
Sabrina JONNIER
France
4:01.910
+11.990s
2008*
3rd
Emmeline RAGOT
France
4:07.030
+17.110s
Note: * denotes UCI World Championship race.
A FEW WORDS FROM LAST YEAR'S CHAMPIONS
So what is it like to win a World Championship? And how's race prep going for this weekend? We posed these questions and more to our current World Champions - Loïc Bruni and Rachel Atherton - and here's what they had to say:
What did it mean to you to win the World Champs last year, and how has it made an impact on your 2016 season? Last year it was a big surprise and a life accomplishment realised. I couldn't expect a better story after that race. I know I'll have this title for all my life and no one will ever take it away from me!
How are you preparing coming into this weekend? Preparation for this race is exactly the same as any other; just a little bit more focused maybe as it's the last one of the year. I'm not going there to defend anything, just to get this jersey as if it never happened.
What do you think of the Champs being held at Val di Sole? Val di Sole is the gnarliest track of the year and it's such a mystical place, so it's going to be an epic race!
- Loïc Bruni, 2015 UCI MTB DH World Champion
What did it mean to you to win the World Champs last year, and how has it made an impact on your 2016 season? Last year, after winning back the World Cup overall title I didn't think that I was too bothered about the World Champs as well because the overall title is so much harder to win, so much more consistency and year-long performance; but when I crossed that finish line [in Vallnord] and had won I was absolutely buzzing, and I realised that deep down I did want it just as much!
The World Champs is strange because it's one race run, one day, but for some reason it's just as prestigious, if not more so than the World Cup overall, it holds its own special value and to be World Champ is incredible, to have these stripes forever, to take home the jersey adds something to a career!
I love my rainbow jerseys and I keep them free and not confined to a showcase or frame, I let them breathe! I have three Elite jerseys and one Junior, and each one holds so many emotional memories. Racing as a World Champion during the season does add a little bit of pressure, putting on the stripes for your race run just reconfirms in your mind that you can be the best and what may be expected of you, but also I like it because it confirms that I can be the best!
How are you preparing coming into this weekend? We're coming into World Champs right from Andorra and the World Cup finals which was a BRUTAL track, so recovery is top of the agenda really. Making sure the body is recovered from last week's racing ready to tackle another big, long gnarly track is going to be hard. Apart from that I just try to take it as another race the same as any race, I try to keep things the same even though the schedule is a little different. There's more downtime at World Champs, more waiting around before finally, Race Day arrives and that can mean the nerves have longer to kick in so it's important to keep perspective!
I remember you saying in the past that Val di Sole is a special place for you. What do you think of the Champs being held here? Val di Sole is indeed a special place for me, Gee and I won our first Elite World Champs titles here in 2008, that day is deeply ingrained in my mind, I remember everything about it, and before that the European Champs a couple of times so the place is special and I love it. I love the Italians, I love the fields and the river, the mountains, the organisers are really cool and fun, and the race has a good vibe, lots of fans and smiles...it's just a rad track really natural and VERY hard! I'm very excited for the race!
- Rachel Atherton, 2015 UCI MTB DH World Champion
FOR THE LOVE OF ITALY
The Val di Sole World Champs this year makes Italy the country that's held the most UCI Mountain Biking World Championships in history. Hot on the heals are the USA, Switzerland, and Canada who have each held a World Champs three times. It hasn't always been Val di Sole, either, in 1991 Ciocco held the second ever World Champs where Albert Iten of Switzerland won for Elite Men and Giovanna Bonazzi won on her home turf in Elite Women. In 2005, Livigno took on the duties, where the French dominated with Fabien Barel and Anne-Caroline Chausson winning Elite Men and Elite Women respectively.
In 2008, Val di Sole hosted its first ever World Champs, with the inaugural victory going to an on-form Gee Atherton who beat his fellow countryman Steve Peat by 2.62 seconds. For the Elite Women, Rachel Atherton held firm against a strong French contingent, making it a double World Champs win for the Atherton family.
HOST COUNTRIES OF THE UCI WORLD MTB DH WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS
YEAR
COUNTRY
RESORT
2016
Italy
Val di Sole
2015
Andorra
Vallnord
2014
Norway
Hafjell
2013
South Africa
Pietermaritzburg
2012
Austria
Leogang-Saalfelden
2011
Switzerland
Champery
2010
Canada
Mont-Sainte-Anne
2009
Australia
Canberra
2008
Italy
Val di Sole
2007
Great Britain
Fort William
2006
New Zealand
Rotorua
2005
Italy
Livigno
2004
France
Les Gets
2003
Switzerland
Lugano
2002
Austria
Kaprun
2001
USA
Vail
2000
Spain
Sierra Nevada
1999
Sweden
Are
1998
Canada
Mont-Sainte-Anne
1997
Switzerland
Chateau-d'Oex
1996
Australia
Cairns
1995
Germany
Kirchzarten
1994
USA
Vail
1993
France
Metabief
1992
Canada
Bromont
1991
Italy
Ciocco
1990
USA
Durango
THAT CORNER
While we're talking about 2008, let's not forget that that year was the year of Sam Hill's 'run to remember' (or forget if you're Sam); fighting for his right to wear the Rainbow Stripes for a second year in a row, Hill was up by six seconds but crashed near the finish line. Sliding off, but then jumping back on his bike, he still managed to cross the line to claim the bronze medal. High drama indeed!
IS THIS FAREWELL?
Rumors abound that Josh Bryceland may be ready to pack it all in and retire from the international racing circuit at the end of the season, coinciding with his mentor, Steve Peat's retirement after just over two decades of UCI World Cup racing. This would mean Val di Sole may see Bryceland's last World-level UCI event. If so, Ratboy's laid-back attitude and indeed riding style would be sorely missed. We wait with bated breath...
SET YOUR CLOCKS
The finals take place on Sunday, the 11th of September, with the live broadcast commencing at 12:30 local/Val di Sole time (11:30 BST).
For those interested in the live timing from the day of the finals, according to the organisers, they'll be at the following times (all are local to Val di Sole):
- 11:00 Junior Women and Junior Men - 12:45 Elite Women - 14:00 Elite Men
Stay tuned to Pinkbike.com throughout the weekend for all of the latest news from the UCI Mountain Bike Downhill World Championships 2016, including live timing from timed training, as well as photo stories and tech content.
@Chickenwithshovel: yeah, i don't want to piss on your chips man, but that would be horrendous to listen to. Clearly josh is an excellent racer, and we doubtless only see one side of him but I'm not sure you could call him a 'safe pair of hands' in a commentary situation. Peaty in there would be excellent however- clearly there's natural chemistry between Warner and him. Tracey Mosely also, has been a captivating listen when she's appeared on MTB broadcasts, particularly on the SohoBikes wheelsize video a few weeks back. A ton of experience. I hope Josh doesn't disappear though. Step away from the bong Rat...
You mean do rad stuff like the FEST series instead... and maybe rampage? If thats the case then go for it! Racing is cool but the rat just wants to ride his bike.
I hope rat boy does retire the race plate if having more fun on the bike is his goal. God I hope so.
@triptex: If he walks away from WC racing I think he is walking away from the sport (as a pro anyway). The only Bryceland quote I can recall after his injury was that he was having a hard time staying off the brakes, it must still be in the back of his mind all the time so I can't see him doing something even more dangerous like Rampage or the Fest series. I would love to be wrong though!
@imho4ep: I hear what your saying but I also hope you're wrong . I think a race pace crash would linger in most peoples minds and that's very normal but I dont see the larger freeride contests to be as dangerous as WC racing. The WC boys are at it rain or shine, wind or no wind. They dont get to sit together and decide that "today's not safe for going fast". They have to practice and qualify and race. Its the job and its not the same lifestyle as the fest boys.
It would be a tragedy for Josh to leave the circuit. He really brings a different aspect to the sport while still being able to compete at a very high level. He is still a top ten rider FFS
@timbuitenhuis: There has been rumblings on the circuit. Even in the Syndicate videos you can get the feeling. All conjecture at this point but I will personally go on strike if he does. Or start a kickstarter to force him to race and drink beers with his friends....especially if I can join him
Greg Minnaar was talking about big changes next season when talking about Peaty retiring. I don't think rat boy will be a part of that team next year. Maybe Peaty will be setting up his own thing and taking rat boy with him. If not and rat boy would rather quit than continue racing wc without Peaty then that's a bit sad.
Everyone always seems to forget pros are humans, and humans who smash up their ankles may understandably struggle for pace/ enjoyment for a fair while afterwards...
Yeah.... dude's only 26. He's had a rough go with injuries and what not but he's got tons of fans. I have a hard time seeing him retire. I could see him changing teams.
A lot of people think about life changes when things don't go as plan and mentors retire and/or leave teams.
Syndicate is gonna have to do some serious work in the offseason.
@km79: How awesome would it be if Peaty teamed up with a manufacturer and started his own team, with the Rat in it! The WC needs people like Peaty, Rat, Hart, Minaar etc, who all bring a mellow and fun vibe to the sport, but are all absolute animals on track...
@Obiwankenoob: Both runs are awesome, but I agree that Danny's was better. Even if you ignore the riding, the sheer booze fueled excitement of the commentary makes my day every time I watch it.
They should bring back commentary on the beers, especially if it ends up Warner and Peaty!
I'm not taking anything away from Rachel but the claim that she is going to embarass many of men's times is pretty far out there. She only beat 5 guys down the mountain last race And only 3 the race before that..
She'll beat a few. And that's pretty awesome. But yeah... her time woulda put her in like 77th place at the last event. By no means is that 'ebarassing' man men.
But props to her. She fast as hell and has been straight up dominant this year. I have a hard time seeing her not win this event by a large margin. I mean she's winning by 7-10 seconds pretty much every event. That's a ton.
@pimpin-gimp: Nah. There are some incredibly fast women in this world. I have no doubt in my mind that even when I was actively racing DS that she'd beat me. And I was not slow.
@onemanarmy: did you miss the smiley face? Nothing but sarcasm dude, I ride about 4 times a year, if anyone didn't beat me I'd feel embarrassed for them!
You guys are forgetting that this is World Champs, not the World Cup. When a country sends their best riders to the World Champs, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are the best in the world- just the best that the specific country has to offer. Some countries have outstanding racers (USA, GB, France, etc) and others not so much (Korea, Mexico, Estonia, etc). I would bet that she will be faster than 20% of the men in the field.
None of the women ever challenge the best guys' times though - or even the top 20, top 30 or whatever - so what can that comparison actually prove?
You can only tell how good Rach is by comparing her to the other women - if she wasn't bloody quick, she wouldn't continually win against the world's best, but she does, so she must be bloody quick.
@ka-brap: Exactly, thats why the comment was made and why it's not really off base. The top riders in the world will be there, but for the reasons you mentioned the field is not nearly as strong overall as in a typical World Cup. There will be a lot of men who are not typically making the cut or even riding in WC events on a regular basis.
I don't really understand the whole "World Championship" thing.
You can get thrashed all season on WC circuit, then do well in one race and you get to call yourself "World Champion"?
Just seems kind of weird to me. I know they are separate things, I just think that the WC circuit shit garner more bragging rights then calling yourself the world champion off of a single race.
Its two different things. The WC circuit is just that, a circuit that has its own strategy. Of course the main strategy is to win the races but there is a bit more too it. Its a points race over the course of 7 races and that's how many riders manage it, trying to get the most points over the course of 7 races. The World Champs is different. Its the end of the season, one race, winner take all. Everyone is going all out, no one is worrying about points, or standings, or staying healthy for the next race. I think they are each a great accomplishment.
You do see similar things in many other sports as well. Like golf with the major championships. A win at the Masters or the US Open is going to overshadow the player who won the overall season points. Or even look at auto racing, the series titles are huge, but winning some single races like the Indy or Daytona 500 carries its own weight.
Agreed, it is kind of weird to have a separate one race title after completing a series for the title.
But it's good because there is no point counting. In the last race Gwin took a safe run in order to secure the overall rather than win the race. At world champs its all out, everyone gunning for the win. Nothing to save for later and no reason to play it safe.
Still... it's weird.
This is shaping up to be an awesome race, Hart, Gwinn, Bruni and Brosnan all at the top of their game and one of the best tracks on the circuit. I CAN'T WAIT!!! Also, ask Rachel about the curse of the rainbow stripes, doesn't seem to bother her too much.
and that is hugely appreciated, in Chile we have Nicolás Massu, he was a good tennis player, but as soon as he was defending the country he morphed into a spartan Roger Federer
Was interesting to hear that very early in the season when Minnar had a rough start that there were some phone calls or emails sent his way discussing how he needed to up his game and produce better results... Yeah Santa Cruz f*cking called out minnar... Anyways Rob Warner had made the comment and then had said I can only imagine Bryceland got it too, after that the rest of this season Minnaar started getting high results and Ratboy started sinking lower in the standings...
To be honest at some point the old adage " where there's smoke there's fire" just becomes "yup it's fire" ... It sounds like the syndicate team we know is dead and Ratboy boy is f*cking off for a while... But hey, remember, Sick Mick took some time off but returned.
And I guess this means next gear the syndicate will be Minnaar and Shaw??
I've wondered about that. Greg obviously responds well to pressure, Bryceland seemingly less so. To be expected really, given his apparent nonchalant approach and happy go lucky attitude. He would be sorely missed, but he definitely seems like the type to pull the plug if his heart's not in it.
The question I always ask is how important winning really is to bike sales? I'd have to wager there are far more people interested in a V10 because of how great a group of guys the syndicate is and how fun they are to watch/follow versus how many overall titles/world championships the bike has won?
I for one couldn't care less if the bike I am buying has won a title...all of the bikes in the top 20 are capable of a win under the right rider.
Maybe I'm off base, but the personalities on your team will trump their results in the long run as there are very few riders who consistently stay at the top
@nvranka: Yes, but remember there is awards for highest point total team and I believe there is a manufacturers award so yeah Race results makes the company more money... so yeah the rider's personality and ride style is why a good chunk of people buy a certain bike but prize money is nice too.
The WC of Downhill is a nasty piece of shit when you get past the surface. I'm not gonna say who but a local pro rider who used to race DH talked to me for a long while about how ruthless the sponsors treat a lot of the riders and that can include their bike sponsors as well. To break it down what I gathered is... If you are top 10 they love you, if you aren't.... good chance they won't even reply to your emails.... so have a shit season and the sponsors go quiet, have one good race at the end of the year and your phone dies from email alerts.
We all think that because it's mountain biking that the whole industry must have a little more of a laidback feel to it... but let's be real bottom line, everyone wants to be richer.
@2bigwheels: interesting to hear...yeah I am fully aware that this industry, like any other, is focused on the bottom line.
I just feel like you are going to sell more bikes having a big personality on your team who is a top 10 rider rather than someone who flies under the radar but wins races.
That said, ratty hasn't been top 10 lately from what I recall, so maybe he isn't really in either bucket anymore. Would be sad to see him go, but that's the nature of racing I guess
Woahh. Where abouts did you hear this, do you have a link?
Ratboy won't compete next year I'm guessing.. but with his talent, he could easily return and win an overall. Not surprised that he's over it after the pressure from Santa Cruz, that would be enough to make most people hate racing.
@nvranka: I think it's a combo of both. You say you would buy a v10 even if they weren't winning but subconsciously you know that the V10 is a winning bike and had been proven over the years. So it might not matter as much for Santa Cruz now but It might be different for other companies. Like YT for instance, they likely would get hammered if Gwin struggled on the bike. They had a lot riding on his performance.
I'd love it if he won the Workd Champs, he's probably one of my favorite riders, so fast, so dedicated yet so chilled, also seems to be doing a good job with young Angel.
We all know how long it sometimes takes great riders to win the Worlds though, he'll get it one day, possibly Sunday or possibly in 3 years time, but he'll get it.
Nicolas Vouilloz at Kaprun in 2002, claiming his World Championship win. Unlike previous years, Vouilloz was unable to secure the World Cup overall the following year." Would have been a might feat though considering he was retired
Hart is on freaking fire right now. Gwin can not coast on this one. He has to put the hammer down. If Hart rips off 4 in a row... good luck beating him next year.
Either way... baring some kind of mechanical failure or wreck those two are gonna end up 1/2.
Gwin will be full gas just like everyone else at worlds...it's a special race because there is no points strategy associated with it...one race one winner
If I HAD to wager, I'd put it on Gwin. Especially since he didn't get to go full-gas last weekend...plus, he's several races separated from his last win. To say he's motivated would be an understatement.
I remember watching Gwin put in almost 8 seconds on second place in 2012 at Val di Sole. Everyone was in shock and couldn't explain it. I'd love to see him do that again here.
I dunno if he'll retire, maybe just take a deserved break. He hasn't seemed to enjoy it as much this year which is a shame. Hope he takes some time out and comes back on good / usual form both on and off the track
I wish we could see Sam Hill on that track...
I remember MSA, when he basically made bad or even no race for a long time, then he just seized the title like it was nothing...! I remember 2008 as well...
I hope he'll still surprise us!
As a Canadian, and maybe as a human, there is one name sadly missing in this conversation.
My mom lives on the island and I remember her asking if I knew a Canadian who was a world champion mountain biker. Because his accident was on the local news. And my throat closed up and something got in my eye.
And I remember the year he came second when he almost crashed and I remember forcing my two daughters to watch the replay when he won.
Always missed.
Chainsaw
@chickenlassi: literally caused me to choke up reading this and feeling the memories! Don't think it's possible to shake off the sadness. Longlive chainsaw
And this is the danger man...this is the guy I think may win this "afternoon"!! here he's...It's DANNY HART!!!!! OHH GOD!! DANNY STAY ON YOUR BIKE!?!!?!! He's gonna smash it..!! He's gonna smash it...!! he loves this jumps.. OH MY GOD!!!! Look at danny hart, he's an absolut legend.... well, I think he's gonna be world champion.
He's the 10th fastest man in the series and came in 2nd at Lourdes, for whatever that is worth. That and the whole rockstar thing... I think plenty of brands would love to pick him up.
I know that I'll get neg. Props. But Josh has not had the results sinxe snapping his ankle. He my do what Hill is doing, looking to go Enduro.
Hilll has had great results on the EWS. Just saying.
@omegalung: If your ankle's not good enough for downhill though, I reckon it's not good enough for the EWS either. The terrain's still pretty bloody rough and you're pedalling hard for long days end on end. It just doesn't stack up
@omegalung: He won a WC (MSA) and got bronze at Worlds in 2015. Not saying the injury is no longer a factor, just that he could still pin it post injury. I do think the idea of him doing enduro sounds like the punch line to a bad joke though- those guys have to pedal!
Theres only one winner for worlds, thats the champion, second or third just dont matter in this race.......haha. Someone is gonna kick some ass on sunday! Yes im voting for gwin, although, we will all have a heart attack if danny crosses green!
Read this on UCI website, looks like Peaty gets one more Worlds after all......"One note of interest, is that the race forerunners will include the legendary British downhiller Steve Peat, who retired this year and has raced every previous UCI World Championships from 1993 to 2014, and paracyclist Alessandro Avigliano. The forerunners ride the course just prior to the start of racing, to make sure the track is clear and ready for competition."
The track is changed every year - either big modifications or small ones - you can't compare the times in the way you can for an F1 driver around a circuit.
Racers are chosen by their national federations prior to the race. There's a set number of riders per country, e.g. GB gets 7. I couldn't find a complete list but I'm sure after rider registration and things the UCI will publish a complete list view soon.
@geebeebee: cheers man. sounds like more than one per nationality then. will make for some great end of season racing! Finn vs. Gaetan? Danny vs. Aaron? Can't wait!
@conv3rt: For Canada, according to your federation, you've got...Junior Men - Henry Fitzgerald, Finn Iles, Magnus Manson, Adam Robbins / Elite Women - Georgia Astle, Miranda Miller / Elite Men - Kirk McDowall, Max Scharf, Mark Wallace.
so british
I hope rat boy does retire the race plate if having more fun on the bike is his goal. God I hope so.
Obviously prepping for his new career
Yup
A lot of people think about life changes when things don't go as plan and mentors retire and/or leave teams.
Syndicate is gonna have to do some serious work in the offseason.
The WC needs people like Peaty, Rat, Hart, Minaar etc, who all bring a mellow and fun vibe to the sport, but are all absolute animals on track...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqYgAX6D43Q
They should bring back commentary on the beers, especially if it ends up Warner and Peaty!
You can only tell how good Rach is by comparing her to the other women - if she wasn't bloody quick, she wouldn't continually win against the world's best, but she does, so she must be bloody quick.
True that... But I will say this... The Missy beat a lot of dudes when she was in her prime.
You can get thrashed all season on WC circuit, then do well in one race and you get to call yourself "World Champion"?
Just seems kind of weird to me. I know they are separate things, I just think that the WC circuit shit garner more bragging rights then calling yourself the world champion off of a single race.
#bringbackhafjell !!!
To be honest at some point the old adage " where there's smoke there's fire" just becomes "yup it's fire" ... It sounds like the syndicate team we know is dead and Ratboy boy is f*cking off for a while... But hey, remember, Sick Mick took some time off but returned.
And I guess this means next gear the syndicate will be Minnaar and Shaw??
I for one couldn't care less if the bike I am buying has won a title...all of the bikes in the top 20 are capable of a win under the right rider.
Maybe I'm off base, but the personalities on your team will trump their results in the long run as there are very few riders who consistently stay at the top
The WC of Downhill is a nasty piece of shit when you get past the surface. I'm not gonna say who but a local pro rider who used to race DH talked to me for a long while about how ruthless the sponsors treat a lot of the riders and that can include their bike sponsors as well. To break it down what I gathered is... If you are top 10 they love you, if you aren't.... good chance they won't even reply to your emails.... so have a shit season and the sponsors go quiet, have one good race at the end of the year and your phone dies from email alerts.
We all think that because it's mountain biking that the whole industry must have a little more of a laidback feel to it... but let's be real bottom line, everyone wants to be richer.
I just feel like you are going to sell more bikes having a big personality on your team who is a top 10 rider rather than someone who flies under the radar but wins races.
That said, ratty hasn't been top 10 lately from what I recall, so maybe he isn't really in either bucket anymore. Would be sad to see him go, but that's the nature of racing I guess
Ratboy won't compete next year I'm guessing.. but with his talent, he could easily return and win an overall. Not surprised that he's over it after the pressure from Santa Cruz, that would be enough to make most people hate racing.
Either way... baring some kind of mechanical failure or wreck those two are gonna end up 1/2.
Bruni has looked fast as hell too.
That's your top 3 in one order or another.
1-Loic BRUNI
2-Greg MINNAAR
3-Danny HART
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OHH GOD!! DANNY STAY ON YOUR BIKE!?!!?!! He's gonna smash it..!! He's gonna smash it...!! he loves this jumps.. OH MY GOD!!!! Look at danny hart, he's an absolut legend.... well, I think he's gonna be world champion.
Ratboy to team Peat ? Hope dh team
luca shaw to syndicate
Loic to syndicate
Greg to retire