Poll: Do You Also Ride Moto?

Apr 30, 2015
by Pinkbike Staff  
Various top mountain bike athletes cross train by riding moto. Do you? Does it improve your mtb skills?

Squamish, BC, is renowned for a healthy relationship between moto and mtb, with most riding areas catering to both and intermixing trails. Locals Sean Armatage and Wayne Hodder give us a look into local moto trail riding. ( Wayne has the sickest moto garage/man cave ever! )

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  • 252 6
 I want to, just can't afford it... use to as a kid lots!
  • 53 11
 Here in Cali we want to too, but protected habitat has limited us to where we can ride, and pretty much we can't ride anywhere.
  • 64 2
 I was gona say i would love to, but spend all my money on rent and bike parts.
  • 33 3
 I want to but my parents wont let me!
  • 5 4
 In my neighborhood nobody has driveways or garages. Not really an option without moving...
  • 145 67
 i don't ride moto, and i am definitely in favor of protecting sensitive habitats. i realize that this must suck if you love moto, but so? too many people on this earth to just blast over everything because it's 'fun,' and motos are pretty destructive, especially when ridden off route, which obviously not everyone does

if a mtb trail was determined to cross really sensitive habs and i was told i couldn't go there anymore, it'd suck but thems the breaks. i'd accept it and move on

just my 2c. which obviously nobody asked for. but it is the interwebz. sorry moto doods.
  • 16 2
 Exactly... The poll missed a key answer... Cant afford it.... But does a bear shit in the woods??
  • 70 41
 It sure does,

And to Moturner. The argument that it is bad for the earth is the silliest thing I've heard. "Destructive" is a terrible word to describe something that might just turn over some dirt. Not like we are pillaging rainforests over here.

I get not riding a dirtbike in like, a national park. Crown land is fair game.
  • 4 6
 no one don't want to ride moto aside mtb for training, its just perfect !!
  • 90 28
 @motoman

respectfully beg to differ, and have dual duties as an river engineer and ecologist, usually dealing with the influences multiple types of human influx/development on erosion, river health, aquatic habitat, species diversity, etc

'bad for the earth' isn't something that is always immediately tangible, but is often felt over longer temporal scales. you might think it just turns over some dirt, but it simply isn't the case

once again, being told that something you really dig is kinda harsh on the little critters sucks, and i get it, really
  • 114 4
 I don't ride moto, but I'm looking at it as an alternative to mountain biking to save some money Smile
  • 44 127
flag whitebullit (Apr 30, 2015 at 13:54) (Below Threshold)
 @moturner, volcanoes produce more pollution than the total combined pollution of humanity. dirt bike trails get the same kind of abuse as a mountain bike trail. the dirt doesnt simply dissappear when you roost a berm or sling some mud, it just gets moved. the earth has been here long before humans and will be here long after. you make me sick.
  • 40 5
 Let planet Earth alone, it doesn't need us. start killing people now if you really want to ''save'' it.
  • 19 3
 My lil bro gave up his MTB for moto... he doesn't seem unhappy by that decision.
  • 26 20
 The ignorant american strikes again! @whitebullit. @moturner has some good points. @whitebullit needs to learn to take his opinion, toss in some logic and then voice it so he does not soubds like an idiot.
  • 86 23
 @moturner

Do you work for the BLM or USFS? You sound like all the bureaucratic people in western Colorado that want to close off a bunch of terrain to motorized use. Just because you "have duties as an river engineer and ecologist" does not make you an expert as to whether or not dirt bikes are destroying the environment. For the record, erosion is a natural process that is at most very minimally increased by riding a dirt bike on a trail (off trail is another story). Grazing livestock on public land is at least 10 times more destructive than dirt biking and livestock are also very effective at spreading noxious weeds but everybody including land managers think grazing is just fine. If you're wondering what my area of expertise is I am an Environmental Protection Specialist for the government. It is my daily duty to protect the environment from harm. I'm not picking a fight I just don't like when people throw out negativity towards dirt bikes based on opinion rather than facts. I ride a KTM 250 XC and I love it as much as I love my mountain bike.
  • 16 8
 always been afraid of bikes, having to control a heavy engine that is reving thousands of times per minute between your legs has never been for me... I come from track and field, a relatively peaceful sport, so I found something similar in XC and DH
  • 18 10
 scholar.google.com/scholar?q=species+diversity+motorcycles&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=kJ1CVe_IEIu2sAXmvICwBg&ved=0CBsQgQMwAA

you can refine this search however you choose, and as with all research sometimes it shows i am wrong too. no need for anyone to get all sick or huffy
  • 24 9
 The arguement of dirtbikes causing too much damage to the environment is not even an intelligent topic to discuss. Any damage that is done is undone in a year or two so leave what little land that is dedicated to OHV alone. We wanna let non violent criminals out of jail and punish those law abiding people with a passion to have fun for the short time that we are here on earth. I've given up hope for you people along time ago.
  • 17 17
 @judgerider348 the damage done to the Flora perhaps, but to the fauna the noise is terrible, if people keep riding on a place year-round animals will start to migrate somewhere else which will affect the ecosystem in the long term.
  • 20 18
 I've been riding the same area for 5 years. My father and uncles, 20 before that. There is no noticeable difference to the terrain or animal life because of it. What is damaging, is the hippies who don't want us there will go in with chainsaws and cut down trees to put over the trails to try to block us from riding.
  • 22 13
 sorry doods, everyone has opinions, and just like you i have mine

@pivotpoint for the record, yes, i have worked for the circus in conjunction with CSU in the ramparts, precisely on studies showing that erosion increases in areas with high OHV use. sometimes a lot, sometimes not that much, but overall, yes

aw hell, have a good day.
  • 9 9
 yeah, those hippies are damaging the ecosystem too, I get you there (seriously), leaving the hippies aside...have you thought how that place looked 25 years ago? or way back, before anyone rode?
  • 8 4
 I know exactly how it looked. The property that we set up camp in has been in our family for decades. Sure you have people that will deliberately go off trail and that can be damaging. But as long as you stay on trail it's the same 6ft wide piece of dirt being ridden over and over again.
  • 16 20
flag whitebullit (Apr 30, 2015 at 14:46) (Below Threshold)
 how about what new york city looked like in 1541? now you cant drive through without it smelling like the local garbage dump. LEAVE MOTOS ALONE!
  • 19 15
 PB has too many people like whitebullit on it. That seem to know more about the environment than a ecologist and can predict the future like Nostradamus. Pivotpoint, the negativity towards dirt bikes is that they make the trails look "less good". Any motto video can show you how they throw around the dirt and rip out the moss. And eventually they will leave traces of motto chemicals behind. Motto does not belong on MTB trails. Motto in places that are not scenic so they don't ruin the trail experience for other users.
  • 9 5
 ArnoldBabar, the sound of a motor vehicle does scare wild animal populations. Ex. Snowmobile's freaking out caribou.
  • 7 9
 @sithbike, not only PB, biking in general, people too much into their egos, I find them too easy to troll, allright 5 pm, gotta go home
  • 3 1
 I would if I could afford to
  • 10 24
flag nocoolnamesleft (Apr 30, 2015 at 15:31) (Below Threshold)
 You must like obama @moturner
  • 31 10
 haha..you must love Palin Smile @nocoolnamesleft

not really, i just like animals
  • 20 2
 I ride both and find they are mutually beneficial in skill/fitness building. I will even hike or ride a horse if the opportunity arises. 99 times out of 100 any person that wants to ban a method of travel from a trail has little or no experience in the mode they scorn. I'll say "Hi" to any trail user and be happy we are there for the trails and the trails are there for us. If environmental impact concerns you, focus on mining, farming, ranching, road building, urban sprawl, coal burning, over population....
  • 3 1
 Same here spinko. I ride MTB just cuz i can't afford it and here in so-cal there are to many people that complain about it that it is nearly impossible.
  • 1 0
 I raced moto as a kid, loved it. Had motorcycles from the age of 8 to 28 (both street and dirt). I look forward to owning another motox bike in the future again. For now I will keep riding mtb. I do however do know that when I do get a moto again that I won't stop riding mtb. Whistler is just to damned fun!
  • 21 8
 The biggest noticeable issue with moto is that many of the people who do it bring in a big truck, empty a dozen six-packs of beer, leave the cans and the wrappers from the burgers and dogs they ate and then leave a campsite smoking with burning bits of red solo cups.
This isn't everyone and mtbr's aren't all innocent either. Motorcycle trails have very little impact on a climax forest. The impact on a desert is worse, but if trails are well made and maintained it is limited.

Much of what we are told is bad isn't as bad as other things, but the other things can't be limited as easily so the stuff we like instead. State forests shut down mtb all the time, but loggers come in with huge machinery and tear up the forest worse than a million riders could. The BLM yells at campers for leaving onion peals (literally all the time) but has to allow cows to graze the grass to the point where it won't grow back for a century.

Moto is not that bad. i have worked with ecologists and the BLM in the recreation therapy industry, worked with ranchers, worked with mtb organizers, and eco-engineers. The problem has much more to do with development than recreation, but the Planeteers can't stop developers, so they stop what they can.
For my crowning example of the rediculousness consider washington where they throw the bikers out of the woods all the time. In the Pacific NorthWest they practice clear cutting. Soil erodes and the minerals robbed from those areas take centuries to recover, but they are more worried about a bit of shreaded forest floor a few feet wide stretching a few miles.
  • 11 0
 Now I would have to disagree with you. First off when you say moto i assume that does not count motocross. Only because that is a closed corse that could usiallynot be ridden by bikes. Secondly it totally depends on the rider. I usually stick to mx, but have enough land that i can do a long trail ride out The door. That being said the trails around me are not damaged by dirtbikes because most the people around here dont hammer it everywhere rut everything out. It's not that the dirtbikes are bad, but the people on them are ignorant. You see it all the time mtb too, people building on private property, or causing erosion by roosting that sweet line. That being said it is more a problem with dirtbikes because they have a larger following. And the more people you have the more idiots in the group. Sorry to rant but you can't just blame a whole sport for some people's stupidity
  • 7 0
 Arguing the preservation ideals of two totally different countries is pointless. Population of merica: 300 million, desnity 84/sq mile, population of canada: 30 million density of 8/sq mile. Is it any wonder why this sweet video comes from up north? If my goal was keeping the ecology of my land intact and there was only one trail for either user group, it's common sense that I'd rather have 10 mountain bikers than 10 dirt bikers on my land.
  • 12 0
 Can't afford it? $1500 or less will buy you something with insane high performance. A 15 year old 2-stroke can hang with any modern bike for $1000-1500. Good luck finding a mountain bike that good at that price.
  • 3 1
 What would the world be without someone to observe it.
  • 11 6
 @moturner: Yes, we are all entitled to our opinions, but the unfortunate thing is that people like yourself get into positions of power and start pushing this irrelevant agenda on the rest of society.

My dad got a gun pulled on him while we were riding once... Dude from BLM jumps out with gun pointed and yells, "Shut 'em down! Now off the bikes!" We lay the bikes over and drop to our knees. He then displays just how small his penis really is by saying, "Now pick your shit up before I ticket you for improper disposal of hazardous fluids." The story gets better... My bike being a 2 stroke, and typically starts on the first kick, I knew there was a chance for escape if he turned his back. Little did I realize that my father had no such intentions of making this grand escape (not with age and a yzf pressing against his odds). BLM Nazi holsters his gun and heads back to the truck. I jump on my bike and sure enough, bing dadada bing, I'm gone!! I hit the dirt road next to us and slam on the rear brake as I sling between two cement barricades that blocked an unfinished housing development. I turned back to see this BLM guy launching his Expedition thru the desert with zero shits given. The barricade was my ticket home, but pops stayed behind just throwing his hands in the air with disgust.

Long story short... My father did what any good man would do, took the heat and never gave up my name in court. Yes, court. He got popped with everything. Had to sale the bike just to make a dent. And for what? Because some tortoise roams the desert on the edge of town. If it doesn't bring wealth to someone who is already rich, then it isn't allowed. You can kick the tortoise around to build more homes and city streets, but working class folks who want to kick their toys around in the desert get treated like criminals.
  • 3 1
 Rather than spouting opinions, just cite scientific research. www.nature.nps.gov/sound/assets/docs/ohvbibliogVT00.pdf
  • 8 15
flag AllridersAgency (May 1, 2015 at 1:50) (Below Threshold)
 Any true mountainbiker who loves this sport (and earth and nature) shouldn´t ride a moto which erode and destroys our lovely trails while polluting in many ways... I just find childish atitude to say you love MTBinking and going around destroying the mountain... is not responsible attitude at all! ( 50% of my trailbuilding time is to arrange what motorbikes has destroyed or eroded...)
By the way I race top level and never ever I will use a moto for trainning, just a principle...
There´s only 3 options left:
1. Ride motocross circuits
2. Ride electric motobikes on the snow!
3. If you got no moto just ride really long downhills o rigid suspension until your arms and hands destroy!
Enjoy and respect!
  • 8 1
 ^ To be fair, the same environmental impact argument can be said about people who use trucks to shuttle DH runs. In many places, there are dirtbike specific trials and not on trails also used for MTBing. Also there is a way to be a responsible trail user so that they last way longer and in some cases, where everyone can use the trails (Sun Valley is a good example of where dirtbikes are a reason why MTBing exists in those mountains). No need to paint one activity or the other with broad paint strokes.
  • 5 2
 This article has nothing to do with destroying land or the impact of dirtbikes on mtb trails. Maybe you guys have magical places to ride that get groomed for you every week, but the mtb trails around here look EXACTLY the same as the dirtbike trails. While there may not be as much wheel spinning, eventually your mtb will do the same damage that a moto will. Building development and roads are more of a threat to the environment than off road vehicles could ever dream of being. Some of us enjoy being on two wheels regardless of how it is powered. It's fine if you don't, but please don't try policing other people's fun on the internet.
  • 1 1
 I'm sorry.
  • 2 0
 @Ddowmtb

I like your words!
  • 7 0
 this argument is like how people say we have to conserve water by not taking showers or by taking 60 second showers - all while still watering their lawn with sprinklers, using dishwashers almost daily, and still using a washing machine. The shower is almost the least of our concern.

and @nocoolnamesleft: obama, bush, palin, romney, monica lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife - they're all the same f*cking thing. there is no difference between liberal and conservative anymore. doesnt matter who you vote for, you're shooting yourself in the foot regardless
  • 2 2
 BERNIE SANDERS 2016!!!!
  • 3 0
 TIME TO MOVE TO BC 2016*
  • 3 7
flag nouser (May 1, 2015 at 10:27) (Below Threshold)
 I respect everyone's opinion as long as they are not vocalized, tweeted, texted, or in any other way made public. Please everyone keep your thoughts to yourself cause no one really cares. Now if you'll excuse me I have some sweet trails to SHRED!
  • 5 1
 "I respect everyone's opinion as long as they don't use their 1st amendment right to free speech to voice an opinion I don't agree with."

you obviously care enough to make your thoughts public about telling others to not make their thoughts public. but you're excused, go shred those sweet trails.
  • 2 0
 The info in that summary of finding was interesting. Looks like ATVs annoy hikes and increase erosion, partly by rerouting waterways and partly by creating ruts. The answer has been screened by IMBA again and again: build and maintain good trails, don't ride in the mud.
As for "fragmenting" forests, it is true trails and roads crisscross the woods. Any one with a garden in upstate NY can tell you though that the animals don't care about the "fragmentation". The deer and raccoons are everywhere in people's yards. In places that densely populated that are still forested you can't walk a mile without crossing a road unless you are in a state forest. And within those patches of first are logging roads . Nothing I have seen convinces me that ATVs are more than annoying if the trails are made and maintained responsibly.
  • 2 1
 taletotell, You are making stuff up. Deer, raccoons, coyotes, pigeons, rodents and rabbits to name a few are all considered urban wildlife. They are doing better because human development and the fragmented forests are killing off their predators. Most species are suffering because of urban sprawl, "animal whisperer".
  • 2 0
 Most species? Most desert species do. Amphibians do. Most suffer more from roads and developments but not so much from fragmentation. By trails. Freeways do fragment territories, but small roads and trails do not.
I didn't make anything up. Pick something specific and convince me.
  • 3 0
 Where in CA are you? The amount of tracks and OHV areas and national forest trail networks and desert ride spots are absurd. Its the reason the moto capital of the world is CA (socal specifically). Moto is literally the best cross training for full dh racing, and if I had to choose only one form of training it would be moto.
  • 4 4
 Only in America do government environmental protection specialist ride dirtbikes. Well, I guess it's better than going muddin in a Hummer, but the rest of the world might say- Well there's your problem!
  • 5 1
 You are seriously overestimating the damage that dirtbikes do to the environment.
  • 1 6
flag Narro2 (May 1, 2015 at 17:54) (Below Threshold)
 this discussion is basically 16 yo boys who love dirtbikes and are too young to find out when people troll them so they get pissed...and older experienced mountain bikers that are having a laugh at these dirtbike lovers
  • 5 0
 I love both and I'm 24 I just think most of these arguments are retarded.
  • 2 6
flag guigui333 (May 1, 2015 at 18:23) (Below Threshold)
 exactly! fuck nature, we will all end up dying anyway.
  • 1 2
 Says the guy with no hope if the world thrives anyway.
  • 3 1
 This is actually someone who has been riding dirtbikes for 13 years and has a lot of outdoor experience. I know guys who have been riding in the CA deserts and mountains since before you were born. I'm having a laugh at someone making themselves look idiotic because they have no actual experience on the matter.
  • 1 1
 So apparently, the only guy here that can ride dirtbikes has enough experience now to tell me that "we are all going to die"? And I'm a idiot. Got it!
  • 4 2
 I have been riding motorcycles for 22 years. I just don't think it has anything to do with the issue. Riding does not teach you about erosion or pollution or anything else except riding.
  • 3 0
 lets all be friends mountain bikers and Moto riders, i ride both and ill admit the dirt does get ripped up a bit but thats the fun of it. Same as riding a mountain bike skidding around a corner and tearing up the dirt, it might not be as bad but hey were having and were on this website to share that fun so all you haters get over it. And the pollution seriously i bet you drive a car every day to work or school and you complaining about a few guys having some fun on their bikes come back to earth and pull your heads out of your asses were killing the trees just as much as you driving on the road. And yeah motoman2 i agree these arguments are retarded.
  • 1 0
 @moturner: I switched from mtb to moto almost ten years ago, and I burn less gas doing it. No more truck shuttles with a 6.0 L pickup truck, the new breed of fuel injected four strokes burn clean and sip fuel. One season of truck shuttles is a decade of moto. In terms of damage, mountain bikes exert more psi ground pressure than a fatter moto tire, and all one needs to do is visit the Whistler mtn bike park to see how trails that were once loam are now penetrating deep into the bedrock. In the grand scheme of things, the amount of dirt disturbed by a trail is miniscule compared to earthy moved for road building, logging, mining, and residential development. I also have many many letters of academic achievement in the Natural Resources field, and trails are one of the most overhyped environmental concerns. Usually, the biggest problem on the coast is keeping them brushed, if they don't get snipped every year they disappear as the forest takes them over. Not slagging mtb, but I think there is enough room for trails for all. Squamish is a great example of co-management of the two.
  • 78 3
 I stopped riding motos cause they are to heavy to throw when i get a temper tantrum on a slope style course.
  • 78 6
 I ride motos cause they are so much cheaper than mountain bikes.
  • 25 1
 They also (usually) hold their value better- mtn bikes depreciate like mad.
  • 21 5
 Motocross bikes don't break every time you ride them!
  • 7 8
 It's not cheaper at all. After buying a bike (which new is over 6000) you have to pay for fuel, suspension service if you don't know what your doing( 900 from factory connection), alot of people get new exhaust systems(800 bucks) a life time of repairs and tune ups, carb cleans, and suspention bearings, and then you have engine rebuild which you would go broke if you follow proper maintenance. A used mountain bike the same year as a dirtbike will be much cheaper . And that's not counting all aftermarket parts that people put on there dirtbikes
  • 8 0
 Most people who throw a bunch of aftermarket parts on there bikes usually can't even ride a stock bike to it's potential, and unless they are overly light/heavy, or are racing competitively, don't need their suspension redone. Not to mention, I feel bad for you if you're paying $900 for suspension service.
  • 2 2
 that was factrory connection, they did all new springs in fork and shock and replace every single wear part in the fork and shock. revalved both to my weight for motocross and Jdays
  • 2 0
 I guess you need to do the suspension work your self. Oil and nitrogen are pretty cheep. I dought any parts were worn out. Fork slider bushings are $20. Motocross bike don't have fork springs or carbs any more! Take your charger damper pike in for service and then tell me mt bikes are cheaper! We blew two in three months but our MX forks are working great!
  • 4 3
 @FlowMasterO That was a silly comment to make. You don't have ot spend anywhere near that kind of coin. FC kinda ripped you off. $900 is insane. And anyone who spends $800 on new exhaust is a moron.
  • 1 4
 I got the bike in Peabody from jimmy decotis, pro moto/supercross rider, so it was ridden pretty hard so all the wear parts were worn out. things like little springs were out of spec seals were leaking and needed heavier springs fork and shock. Had it revalved too. They sent back everything that was replaced also. I did a little research and factory is a little more expensive than something like c-cycle, a revalve on front and rear is usually $575 not including a rebuild and new springs cost 120 for front and 120 for back. That works out to less than a 90 dollar fork rebuild with parts and labor included. When they normally charge about 150 for shock and 150 for the fork(not including wear parts). That being said i got a fair deal and you get what you pay for. Still cheaper than if procircuit did it
  • 1 4
 I wouldn't listen to anything smgishot13 has to say... the guy is a snitch.

Remember me? My username used to be keystone5...
  • 1 0
 I am guessing the bike has race tech susp. Which you could do yourself and never buy a pro's used bike! I was not talking about a fork (pike) rebuild, new parts!!! And FC is good, have used them many times. My point is Motocross susp. Is stout, and mt bike stuff is not. My son has bent shims in fox shock on his mt bike, oh my boys race local pro motocross, not Jimmy D's speed!!
  • 2 0
 What @smgishot13 is saying is true though. No one NEEDS to dump that amount of money in a bike. Just like no one NEEDS a 10k Nomad or V10. I've had my suspension revalved once (300 bucks) and have since only changed the oil and bought new tires on my bike. @FlowMasterO you have to be on drugs to buy a pros used bike. Especially a 250f.
  • 2 1
 @FlowMasterO Wow, you are "less wise" (I'm trying to be nice) than I thought! Buy a used bike from a national-caliber pro, which is guarenteed to be absolutely f-ing destroyed is... "less than really smart"

@geerumm Sorry doesn't ring a bell? Glad I'm unforgetable to you though! Smile Are we friends?
  • 1 2
 Oh sh*t, you're only 18, I shouldn't be making fun of you, that's kinda pathetic on my part.
  • 1 1
 Actually it was in pretty good shape i checked the valves they were in spec, compression test, clutch was mint. I mean I probably overpayed but three years ago 2000 for a three year old 250f was a pretty sweet deal, and it was just overhauled by Kenny G. No need to apologize either, I know it was alot for suspension tuning, but the changes on the track are worth it.
  • 35 0
 For me it's the other way around. I've found that DH mountain biking has improved my moto a lot. Not so much when riding motocross, but when riding technical single track and enduro stuff. Before I got into mountain biking, I would always squid out when coming into a steep, technical, rocky section. Mountain biking has really helped out my balance. I just tell my self I'm riding a 250lb DH bike and I'm golden. Also riding moto as made me not understand all the weight weenies. I ride similar terrain on a dirtbike that I would on a mountain bike. Anything under 40lbs feels like a toy.
  • 15 0
 I found that when I got into moto from mtb background I had an advantage on downhills compared to those that grew up on moto. Of course, I was terrible at everything else. Now with a lot more experience I do find that the cornering technique I use in flowing moto trails directly translates to mtb.
  • 3 2
 Ya definitely DH is where I've noticed a big difference. A couple of guys that I ride with are good enough to race pro class at a lot of events and smoke me just about anywhere. But on the DH sections where I was at a few weeks ago I could actually pull away from them. A big thing that it has helped with is line choice. On a dirtbike I can see something sketchy, say fuck it, and give it a little extra throttle and let the bike take the hit. On a MTB I have to think a little more, which is a good thing.
  • 8 0
 I liked moto also because it was new and I was a noob at it. Every time I would go out ride I would get better and see the progression. Also every place I rode was new, unknown and an adventure. That really is a great feeling. Mtb I still love but it's different as I'm riding at a lesser level than I used to when I was in my prime.
  • 1 0
 would love to if i can find a cheap one although many can be had second hand.
  • 2 0
 Around me a decent 125 or 250 two stroke can be had for less than 2500 bucks. Cheap, easy to maintain, and simple.
  • 5 2
 Wife and kid says no because of the danger Too many people depend on me to put food on table.
  • 5 1
 It's really no more dangerous then DH. I've hurt myself far worse on a bicycle then on a dirtbike haha. As long as you don't ride over your limits like a goon you should be alright.
  • 5 3
 @ArnoldBabar

I'm not so sure, dirt biking often deals with speeds over 40 mph, a crash at that speed can be fatal. Not to say MTB is safe, but the speed is far slower than moto.

Just because you have been hurt worse on a bike does not mean moto is safer. Look at any statistics on injuries
  • 2 0
 a crash at walking pace can be fatal if you fall wrong, I've had far more MTB related injuries than moto for a similar time period (20+ years) and riding pretty much the same kind of trails.
  • 1 0
 You only go as fast on a moto as you want too. I've gotten many of the same injuries on my mtbs that I have on my dirtbikes.
  • 1 0
 @riggadon , it depends on the style of moto. If you are riding tough single track enduro the speed drops a lot. That's how I got into it and how I learned to ride moto. I would "crash" dozens of times a day but it was mostly falling over trying to go up something. I thought that was a safe way to get into it and hone basic skills.
  • 31 0
 gonna try and sneak em back into the garage nxt year but it'll probably cost a bathroom remodel or a year's worth of sitting thru chick flicks...
  • 34 4
 I went to school with a bunch of posers who all claimed they were 'factory sponsored' and got new bikes all the time. so that ruined it for me. cant stand the poser moto bros.
  • 11 1
 man, thats definitely a thing in moto
  • 20 3
 Gotta look past all that. It's present even in mountain biking. You see it at any bike park. It's less of an issue in endure moto scene.
  • 8 8
 This. I think moto looks so rad and I would love to do it. The culture around moto is disgusting though. Half of riding moto is letting people know that you ride moto.
  • 4 7
 Tannerd@ you kidding?
  • 8 0
 I'm glad i'm not the only moto guy that hates the moto community.
  • 4 1
 You guys talking motocross or trail riding? Big difference!
  • 1 0
 very big difference!
  • 3 0
 It's no different than the poser kids in the bike parks or the dirt jumps!
  • 29 5
 Where's the option for "no, I don't ride moto?"
  • 9 2
 ya, I thought it was a yes-or-no question...
  • 11 1
 I've got nothing at all against moto, but wasn't that the original question? Or am I missing something? Perhaps the English language changed while I wasn't paying attention....
  • 21 0
 maybe if mtbs werent so dang expensive i could ride moto to
  • 14 0
 or the "I can't afford a super rad bike AND a moto" option
  • 5 1
 Its not really that much more expensive than a good downhill bike. You can get a good used 250cc for 3000 bucks and you will only need to replace parts depending on how you ride and break things. Pretty comparable to the cost of a good bike though.
  • 2 1
 Thanks MODs good catch.
  • 29 2
 In 2015 I bought a new Husqvarna 300 and a new Santa Cruz Carbon Nomad. The bicycle was more expensive.
  • 7 0
 Well for us college kids money doesn't grow on trees unfortunately. When Im an adult and my bike is built how I want I'll def look into a moto. But for now, MTB is where my few dollars go.
  • 6 0
 Radek will you please adopt me. I want a v10... it doesn't have to be new. I just really want a v10 maybe even 10 v10's
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flag motoman2 (Apr 30, 2015 at 13:18) (Below Threshold)
 Radek. I am going defend you, in a slightly insulting way.

Northcut21: For you college kids? Is that an excuse? I get college its expensive no doubt. I've done it. And you're right money doesn't grow on trees. If you are in college you are an adult. I'd hope anyway.

JustwhipIt: I hate that you think the guy is made of money. Maybe he just works hard and has a decent job and just killing life. We can all do that.
  • 8 0
 Ive never ridden a motorbike of any kind, would love to give it a go though.

Main problem with moto for me is where do you ride it ?
Go anywhere local and your immediately branded a yob, i frequently see police moto's searching woods and any other green space for bikers.
Alternatively, go to purpose built tracks which requires either a van or a trailer. neither of which i own.
  • 2 0
 Motoman2, I will go with anyone who will buy me a v10 not just people that are made of money. Not sure where you got the idea I thought that though lad
  • 3 0
 @motoman2 are you saying @northcut21 should have an mtb, a moto, a pickup/ute to transport the moto and a place to store it while he's at College? Where the hell did you go to College? Also Radek is the founder of PB so yes, he has a decent job.....
  • 23 3
 To be honest, I kind of resent moto riders in my neck of the woods. Most (if not all) trails around here are mixed use, and people often ride their motos after hard rains, really messing up the trails, to the point of making some parts of the trails pretty much unrideable by bike (and by unrideable I mean thick mud up to hub height).
  • 4 3
 A few ruin it for all. Thoses are not motocross guys!
  • 22 0
 Sad that there is no "I ONLY RIDE PARK" option
  • 19 2
 I don't ride moto, but I ride BMX and that definitely improved my mountain bike skills.
  • 1 0
 I started out riding bmx race, then switched to DH. I'm just starting to cross train with bmx on a race track again because it's such a good workout. It's also super cheap. I'd be interested to see how many mountain bikers come from a bmx background or use bmx to mix things up a bit.
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 Pisses me off when people say Braaap. Fuckyou Braaap. Bikes dont have noise. I love moto I have lisense for moto and had a street moto to go to work and already did some trails but I hate the noise Braaap... here in Brazil moto kills more than anything else and government just want to sell moto to be rich in taxes and stuff. The problem with moto os that there is so many stupid riders that brake fences and do all the shit in trails ans street. The big holes in the trail are the worst. Love supercross and big moto stunts
  • 33 11
 Braap!
  • 13 4
 Braaaaaaaaaapinyourass
  • 3 3
 BRRAAAP! SRH brah !
  • 13 0
 Wait a minute, for 10g my nomad doesn't have a motor. Son of a B.
  • 7 0
 Everyone seems fixated with MX bikes, but you would be amazed what a season or two on a Trials Motorcycle would do for your technical skills, and technical skills have plenty of transferability between disciplines..........
  • 8 1
 course everyone would love to have a moto to go out and rip on but mountain bikes alone drain my bank account! maybe one day though...
  • 4 0
 I quit DH racing a few years back to focus on Moto because I could do it with my kids who are on 50's. My kids and I can spend the week-end ripping around for less than the price of 1 lift ticket. In the winter I stud up my tires and ride the hard packed snowmobile trails around town. Its an endless drift session! Plus a moto does everything a DH bike can do up, down or sideways. I miss DH sometimes, but then I grip with my knees, shift into 3rd and pin it and that feeling goes away!!
  • 5 2
 I ride both equally right now. Been riding Dh for about 15 years and got back into moto about 4 years ago. I have seen a huge improvement in my dh skills since getting back on the motto. I had otherwise plateaued in terms of bike handling and overall speed. On the motto I've been able to step right in and can hold my own amongst most other riders in the area. I ride a street legal Husaberg FE570 which is more or less a enduro race ready machine. I've used it for trail building too, being able to cut in a rough line for new single track is an often over looked advantage of a dirt bike. I feel all mtn bikers could benefit from regular motto riding. But it's equally as expensive. So i understand why many don't.
  • 4 1
 I used to, but then decided pedaling was more enjoyable then watching trees fly by at 90mph. the funny part in all of this is you can buy a good moto bike for LESS then a good MT Bike. Amazes me really, but then it's all about the markets etc
  • 4 0
 I ride Moto all the time. Both disciplines transfer well to each other. Lately, I've been at the MX track more training for The Mammoth MX. When I'm there I'll ride both the MX track and bike part. Best of both worlds!
  • 1 0
 Good Luck at Mammoth man. Gnarly race!
  • 1 0
 Thank you kindly, I'm really looking forward to it!
  • 5 0
 does scootering to work count? It's way more bad ass and chicks dig it as much as they dig guys who ride bikes Smile
  • 2 0
 Growing up I rode atv,atc, dirt bikes and I've owned a street bike or two. It was my passion growing up, but I can't afford it at my point in life. Dh gives me the warm and fuzzy feeling that moto use to give me. If I was going to get a moto again I'd get a dual sport, because i could ride it everyday. No plans ready to get a dirtbike so it can sit at days at a time.
  • 6 1
 two of my trails torn up by dirt bikers this year so far.takes all the fun out of it all my hard work for nothing
  • 4 1
 one moto rider can make a damp trail unrideable for MTB's. I don't think multi-use with motos is a sustainable concept. Look at the trail conditions in this video. It was rapidly heading towards axle deep slop. To be fair I've seen cattle and to a lesser degree horses, do the same thing to trails.
  • 1 1
 i think it can be done, in regards to the trails. But i think its extremely dangerous. bikes for the most part will ride a trail one direction. Motos will ride trails both directions.
  • 2 0
 I ride a Harley as my daily transportation. I would like to own an off road motorcycle but if I am going to invest in a motorcycle that requires a specific course to ride I will be buying a speedway or flat track motorcycle. I'll jump my bicycles and drift my motorcycles Wink
  • 2 0
 As far as which is more expensive. I think MTB, then Supermoto, and the cheapest has been MX. With the exception of gas and track fees. I only ride tracks out here in California. An hour and a half in any direction lands you on a track or OHV area. Literally miles in any direction gets you some decent MTB though. So it's way more convenient. Between the two. Moto is more demanding physically but MTB has been a bigger challenge on the technique side. Each sport requires its unique skill sets and in my case MX transfers more in to biking than vise versa. Jumping a dirt bike is ten fold easier than jumping a mountain bike.
  • 4 2
 In first place,all point is human power. What we are talking about? Am I on a wrong place?
I know you will hate me.
If I wanted to listen that noise, to smell that petrol, then I would probably ride a motorbike.
So if I've chosen wind, birds, rivers, pebbels, and all that mean Nature, I don't want to hear
that nasty, artifficiall noice and smell. Plus all dammage and pollution you do with motorbike, that realy devastates plants and animals. And that part is not just my opinion, that is general, and argumented, meshurable, and I don't understand why so many people pretend they're blind.
But that could be teme for some other Pinkbike poll. I doubt.
  • 2 0
 I used to race ATV's in the pro class in my State XC series. Got to be way too hard on the body and wallet. I got out of the sport and got into cycling. I find that the skills necessary to be proficient at both are very similar. I can definitely see how riding a dirt bike could correlate to riding a mountain bike.
  • 2 0
 I ride both. With the hrs I work it's pretty much impossible for me to be fit enough to do a 50k loop on an Mtb but if I have time I can do a 100k ron a dirt bike in a day. More people ride moto so more different people to ride with. When I see the destruction major companies do to our environment in not concerned about a bit of erosion in the middle of nowhere my dirt bike causes. Not to mention the highway I probably trailered my bike down to get to a trail. That said a lot of the rides I do on the dirt bike are on private land. I looked at a new nomad this year but when I already have 3 mtbs I could not justify it. For the price of a new nomad I bought a near new ktm 300. Seeing as my wife also has a dirt bike it's more family friendly. Wife can ride her bike and my 2yr old daughter rides with me.
  • 6 1
 Where is: I would love too but I spend all my money on Bicycles?
  • 6 1
 Fuck the question i would ride mote but my bike owns all my money
  • 2 1
 @Radek. Thats exactly what i found as well. Technical downhill sections on the moto were never a problem for me even when guys i was riding with had way more experience/talent on motos would have issues. Im not a dh rider either, just your average trail rider.
I am fortunate enough to be able to own both but i enjoy the mtb more, probably because i have WAY more time on one
  • 3 1
 an RR and a twisty road its an orgasm but anny mistake could pay with your life but notting compare to the silence, effort and the joy of mtb with friends in the forest the best gym in open space.
  • 5 0
 Got my race plate on, all year long.
  • 8 4
 I'm quite alright with motorbikes, as long as they stay away from my trails
  • 9 8
 I hate moto. It's noisy and if you live in a country without regulations motorcycles and ATV ruins the trails that they are not allowed to use. I hate when I ride my bike and get passed by a motorcycle that brings a cloud of exhaust and dust over me.
  • 3 0
 Myself and some of the guys I ride with are all ex moto-x dudes. It was a natural transition for us when we got out of Moto-x for various reasons.
  • 3 2
 I've never really been interested in riding dirtbike, but I suppose if I had a nice dirtbike and some good jumps it would probably change my mind... However I like the quietness of a mountain bike. Keeps the wildlife from running off... also, is it just me or does anyone else feel it's a little more manly to clear big jumps without a motor?! Big Grin naw, actually I've got quite a bit of respect for those guys, like T Pastrana...
  • 2 0
 Used to race moto as a kid, now race DH and ride trails...not enough time or money to do both but absolutely would do both if I could and absolutely think both skill sets compliment each other. That vid was sweet!
  • 3 0
 Well, after riding moto, nothing seemed as scary on a mountain bike. Subsequently, I became much more willing to try harder stunts/jumps.

And then I broke my collarbone.
  • 3 2
 I ride street because I love bikes. Street bikes are fantastic as you can accelerate as fast as a supercar for a fraction of the cost. I even welded a steel rig to carry my MTB to get out into the mountains so I don't need a car. I hate any kind of car I could actually afford. Although street moto doesn't help with mountain bike skills, totally different. I love to try MX, but I think Enduro really is too destructive other than on fire-trails.
  • 3 0
 Gracias por mostrar este video, es impresionante como destruye el sendero la moto ademas de contaminar y asustar a los animales
  • 1 1
 Umadornah
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 i hate moto its sucks ass, my biggest problem with it is 2 or 3 riders can destroy an area in just a few hours, plus the noise pollution 2 or 3 moto riders can spoil a wooded area or mountain side for hundreds of other people just out to take in the sights and sounds of the wilderness, and then what will really boils my blood is moto riders using MTB trails which have taken people weeks to build, and ive never seen a moto rider put back into a trail or rebuild anything. i wear my heart on my sleeve they suck monkeys.
  • 2 0
 Bikes are way too expensive and they aren't what anybody can call durable. Motorbikes are pretty expensive too. But not always. But they are built to last. And at least one that's 5-20 years old is still worth riding.
  • 3 0
 2012 crf 250r. is anyone else stoked that they played social distortion don't drag me SOCIAL D FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 1 0
 Averaging around 60 km a week for the past year on my mountain bike on trails around Salzburg has been the best thing I have done so far to get fitter and better at riding motocross. Made a huge difference to my fitness and surprisingly also my overall comfort on a dirtbike!
  • 1 0
 so the answer is actually the other way around, MTB improves my MX skills!
  • 2 1
 First mountain bike race I did, way back in 1993, was on an enduro moto trail. What a blown-out, rutted, gullied piece of shit that trail was. Motos definitely tear up a trail faster than anything else. Even more than horses. I don't have a dog in this fight, since (fortunately) motorized vehicles (besides snowmachines in winter) aren't allowed on public lands in Vermont. But I've seen the destruction motos and horses can do in other parts of the country. But, just like mountain-biking, if the trails are built for it, and folks ride with respect for each other and the land, it's all good.
  • 2 1
 I used to ride Moto but switched to Mtn Biking. Nearly every time you crash on a Moto, you break a bone. Nearly every time you crash on a Mtn Bike, you don't break a bone. Had to switch. Also, I live in the SF bay area and there are a lot more places to ride bikes than motos...
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 Umm, no
  • 1 0
 I ride motocross, I've done it since I was 4, and I'm just getting into downhill at the moment, having the skills I have from motocross over the years is going to help me right from the start, I love jumping and I use my brakes very little on a motocross bike or very late into corners to save Second's per lap so going down a downhill run I will be able to start on the red and then to the black runs a lot quicker and begin to get into it seriously and go to places with large jumps that a good level of riding is needed for clearing them and getting down the runs
  • 5 1
 No Oregon hates knobby tires period
  • 1 0
 Where in Oregon???? When I lived in Portland my friend was gone every weekend riding motos!
  • 1 0
 I should have said Portland hates knobby tires.
  • 1 0
 Got it. Very true! One of the many reasons I chose to move.
  • 3 0
 No, moto's and me don't get along so well. Every time I ride one I get kicked off.
  • 3 0
 Ride dirt bikes summer and winter and mtb summer and winter! One compliments the other for sure!
  • 4 0
 Where is farm use on the poll section!??

That is what I use it for..
  • 4 0
 If it has tires I'll ride it like its stolen.
  • 1 0
 I find it hard adjusting from my moto bars (740mm) to my mtb bars (780mm) it take a little bit of being out on the Moto trail to get comfortable again. The Moto also helps with my commitment and line selection.
  • 1 1
 I grew up riding moto but switched to mountain bikes when I moved to the city. Mountain bike riding areas are so much more accessible I can throw my bike into the back of my car and store it in my apartment. If I rode moto, I would need a truck and a place to store my bike.
  • 1 0
 I wouldn't say I cross train on my dirt bike. While I have been riding MTB longer, I've ridden dirt bikes more. If given the choice, I'd always go moto. Does everything a XC, AM and DH bike can do, and a lot more.
  • 2 0
 I was riding street, and it was quite confusing when i started mtb since you lean your body outside and not inside the corner
  • 5 5
 Any true mountainbiker who loves this sport (and earth and nature) shouldn´t ride a moto which erode and destroys our lovely trails while polluting in many ways... I just find childish atitude to say you love MTBinking and going around destroying the mountain... is not responsible attitude at all! ( 50% of my trailbuilding time is to arrange what motorbikes has destroyed or eroded...)
By the way I race top level and never ever I will use a moto for trainning, just a principle...
There´s only 3 options left:
1. Ride motocross circuits
2. Ride electric motobikes on the snow!
3. If you got no moto just ride really long downhills o rigid suspension until your arms and hands destroy!
Enjoy and respect!
  • 3 4
 Your principal doesn't make sense. I'm a true mountain bike and I love the earth. Don't tell people who they are and who they are not. Foolish.

Motocross is way better that MTB and I've been doing both for a long time.

f*ck Pollution too. The amount of pollution coming off a diatribe is less that what a cow produces each day. Look it up. Kill the cows? No.
  • 1 1
 I drove. It was my dream to ride when I was a Lil kid, but we had no money for that. Got one when I was 17 and raced til 20. Had 2 big crashes and now Im going back to mtb. For MX you need a lot of money to ride good and the only thing that could get me back to it would be an electric motocross bike. But in the end Im happy I choose to ride without an engine. Its cheaper and I can enjoy the nature around me.
  • 2 0
 Just recently started riding Moto enduro, best decision I've made! Having to muscle a 100kgs around at pace has improved my mountain bike handling 10 fold.
  • 3 0
 All my buddies who came to mtb from moto all became better riders than me in the first year.
  • 1 1
 Moto....yes would like to.

I get the feeling it would be another toy in the garage collecting dust. Lot´s of work on a moto bike. Would not do it unless I sold my MTB bikes.
  • 1 1
 Exactly,I got too many toys, my moto sat in my garage for 2 years before i sold it, I got a bunch of surfing gear but only go a couple times a year cause i'm always on my MTB, which I have 2 of and split time on, when i'm not at work or working on my house...
  • 2 1
 Combine that shit. The possibilities are endless. All You neednis imagination and a mig welder www.pinkbike.com/photo/10767032
  • 4 1
 Moto's a great way to get to the build site.
  • 1 1
 I started racing motocross at age 11 and did very well as an amateur. A series of injuries and other factors lead me to DH. I do still ride motocross at tracks for fun with friends but my main focus is now on DH racing.
  • 3 1
 I would love to have a MX Bike, but my Mam won't let me and it would take for ever to clean it, Kevin aged 37!
  • 2 0
 started mx first and aftet that downhill.still ride motocross its fun! but downhill is my absolute favorite Salute
  • 6 3
 THIS IS POLLUTION, the polar bear dies bitches
  • 1 0
 I want, just need some money, and I have the perfect coach, my dad, he's a former enduro racer, and 2 times national champion in Brazil. I just need the fucking money!!!!!
  • 7 8
 I am probably going to be neg-propped into some sort of internet black hole for saying this, but I kind of hate motorbikes (that includes E-bikes). I guess motorbikes are kind of cool when they are doing big jumps in between when the monster trucks are crushing crappy cars, but I mostly think motorbikes and a*sholes are the real life version of peanut butter and chocolate. They go together really damn well, but are bad for everybody.

We like to frame motocross as being akin to mountain biking, but they are two totally different things. Like Tofurky and turkey. Yes, motorbikes and mountain bikes are both about two wheels in the dirt, but it pretty much ends there for me. I want real turkey!

TEMPLE
  • 3 3
 And the capital of your province (Victoria) spew raw sewage out into the sea! So all Canadians are polluters. . . . . . . ?
  • 2 2
 @TEMPLE so you hate motorbikes and the people who ride them just because?
  • 1 0
 Like many people here, I would love to ride motocross if I didn´t have already spent all my money on outrageously expensive mountain bike equipment!
  • 3 1
 As you say "top mountain bike athletes cross train by riding moto. Do you?" - Why should I?
  • 3 1
 Was also hoping for a follow-up question: do you want to see moto content on pinkbike?
  • 1 2
 Im going fill circle I started riding bicycles as a kid then went to spinning wrenches at the local bike shop while still in school, moved out and went on to motorcycle mechanics institute to expand my ability and fell in love with motorcycles. While bikes continued to evolve i was on other paths now I am getting back into mtb to stay in shape as i have not been riding as much after relocating to a place that wont allow motorcycle trails on public land because of noise. bottom line for me is bicycles and motorcycles are a way of life and its rewarded me with the best friends and adventures i could imagine and i have not quit pushing my limits yet. As far as bikes go for me the closest thing to a mt bike is a mini bike like a crf50 or a knockoff big bore pitbike its cheap to get into and a lot of fun we hit mountain bike jumps all the time with our lil' honda mini trails

'98 Triumph Speed Triple, '99 DR350SE (450kit),'97CR250 & '93CR125"pinkbike", '79 honda CT70 (160cc china engine) & '79 CT70 original w/plate......there are more but the rest are expendable i lost count of how many motorcycles i have but i just bought a Santa Cruze Nomad so I'm pedaling more now
  • 2 0
 I saw a big piece of forest was vanished on both side of the track, what for?
  • 1 0
 New bits of forest.
  • 1 0
 I couldn't imagine doing bigger jumps than i am right now, just wouldn't work with me, bikes are too expensive anyways to afford both
  • 1 2
 I realise that moto and mtb has a shared history in North America and clearly a misty eyed romance still exists, but in my experience as a mountain biker, forestry worker (I also manage the trails), but also a parent who enjoys taking my kids out riding or walking in the woods, moto riders are just disrespectful, anti-social dickheads.

They ride illegally, and I mean all the time, when it's not across nature reserves or paths its the trails that I manage, they put themselves at risk and everybody else just to have fun, what's left behind are trails ripped to shreds and donut'd. Now, fair enough it is true that land isn't often set aside for moto riders like is for mtbs or walkers and a lot of this shit would end if it was, unfortunately even this argument is hard to support, not so long ago a local farmer who lives adjacent to a local wood, the outside edge of which was designated sssi gave over some his land and built a moto track with jumps for local riders to use. How was this altruistic gesture recieved? The moto boys broke into his shed and nicked his bikes. So he shut it down. Like I say dickheads, now they're back ramming their fun down everybody else's throats, paperclips, thats all those bikes are good for.
  • 2 0
 My moto is only to get to work. A naked street bike.
  • 2 0
 Do motor scooters and mopeds count?
  • 2 0
 Bike prices are already high enough! Can't afford moto too!
  • 2 0
 what's the moto equivalent to pinkbike?
  • 2 1
 Vitalmx.com, everyone's just as pissed off there as they are here! I am currently banned from posting there haha
  • 1 0
 yeah everyone on vital is mad at everyone else on vital
  • 3 0
 They're not called Vitards for nothing...
  • 2 0
 pinkbike used to have a site that was almost identical to the current mtb set up, if i remember correctly it was called chainslayer.com or something like that. But its no longer around. Currently close to being equivalent id have to say either vitalmx.com or vurbmoto.com
  • 1 0
 thumpertalk.com
  • 1 0
 Chainslayer was PB's April Fools Joke one year. PB went full moto for a day.
  • 1 0
 Strange that the answer button is not there, unless you click on poll header.
  • 2 0
 Sureeee! If I could have money for this...
  • 1 0
 After watching the video would like to can't afford it. Mtb is a bit cheaper for my pocket. Looks like fun though.
  • 2 0
 I would favorite this vid, but... 4 strokes.
  • 2 0
 That's guys workspace/living area is so awesome! Forever Two Wheels
  • 1 1
 I hit a kangaroo doing bout 130km/h, stupid thing bounced away. back is fussed together now, cold mornings hurt but I still ride.
  • 3 0
 I only ride park
  • 2 0
 The last option should have read:


"I don't ride moto Frown "

Lol
  • 2 2
 I think its funny that everyone is ranting about riding a moto or not when the video shows two guys tearing up some sweet mtb trails.
  • 3 0
 Those are not Mtn bike trails at all they are MOTO trails built specifically for riding moto but those guys.
  • 2 0
 How good was that garage/man cave
  • 2 0
 i ride moto cause its cheaper than mountain biking
  • 2 0
 I would ride moto, but I only ride park.
  • 1 2
 sometimes... It's so much easy when you have a bar in your hands all the time with the mtbike ... I love it, but prefer MTB !
  • 5 4
 $10k + on a DH bike and you ask if we ride Moto aswell!?
  • 5 0
 You don't have to spend 10k+. You can spend 5k on a MTB and still have plenty left over for a Moto bike.
  • 1 0
 Well I do love my street bike and I wouldn't say no to a supermotard...
  • 2 0
 I wish I did!
  • 1 0
 i wish i could afford a mx too.. Frown
  • 1 0
 what song is in the begining
  • 1 0
 Flower by. Moby.
  • 3 1
 MTB OR DIE.
  • 1 0
 i ride moto but not that much
  • 2 0
 Where is supermoto?
  • 1 1
 Always wanted to but I can bike anywhere and for free, so I stuck with it. Some day I'll get a Moto
  • 1 0
 Street bike for getting to work. In the dirt it's mtb for me.
  • 3 2
 Why do it on a motorcycle when you can do it on a mountain bike?!?!
  • 3 0
 Because throttle.
  • 1 0
 Totally would but don't have the money fml
  • 3 2
 Whole lotta haters on here! I ride mtb when I can't moto!!
  • 1 0
 poor man can not afford it
  • 1 0
 6 glasses of scotch. I'm messed up. I luv Moto u mofo
  • 2 1
 I also ride a Disco Stick.
  • 2 1
 wonder how many people saw enduro and instantly jumped on it...
  • 1 0
 I did ride moto,but then i had to sell it.
  • 1 0
 just got my first dirt bike today....i got it for DH training....
  • 1 0
 I ride scooter, does it counts?
  • 2 1
 those an eBike count ahahahahah, f&^k NO!! moto.
  • 1 0
 Bikes cost too much for me to buy a Moto.
  • 1 0
 there is no substitute for a throttle. Must ride moto!
  • 1 0
 Anyone else notice the shop in that video? WANT!!!!
  • 1 0
 Does riding pit bikes count?
  • 1 0
 What was with the music? I wanted to hear the BRAAAP!
  • 1 0
 my Moto has a very big flaw!!! consumes gasoline!!!
  • 1 0
 Too much hassle, too much shit to fix. Maybe once electrics get there.
  • 1 0
 Holy Brown Pow!
  • 1 0
 no scooters ?? :p
  • 2 2
 i ride my ktm 350 sxf and i loved!
  • 2 2
 I only ride moto; my body has two motors built in!
  • 1 0
 LOOK WHAT YOU DID PB.
  • 1 0
 What is the end song?
  • 2 1
 Don't drag me down - Social Distortion
  • 2 0
 Thanks!
  • 1 0
 Hellllllo moto
  • 2 2
 Nah, I don't ride moto; I like females.
  • 1 0
 No
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 Do you even moto bro?
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 Nope. Brakes are backwards and I'd kill myself. Garage is full.
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 If you bike before moto, your gonna have a bad time!
  • 2 0
 I call nonsense.
  • 6 8
 Who flipping cares about dirt bikes, your stories you keep posting are getting more and more boring and ridiculous.
  • 11 3
 People who ride dirt bikes. In fact in my opinion Motocross is a much more physically exhausting sport than MTB
  • 3 0
 Haters gonna hate.
  • 1 2
 Yeah, we need more xc and cyclocross content!!! That stuff gets me pumped!!!!.......Not
  • 2 2
 YZ250!!!
  • 3 4
 moto for exploring mtn bike spotsSmile
  • 1 2
 This dude is 10x faster
m.youtube.com/watch?v=_qqE9M8muQg
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 I guy in a track is faster then guys riding in the forest. No way.
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 its one or the other
  • 1 1
 I only ride Park!
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 2003 crf450r, biatches!
  • 1 0
 Ktm 300 two stroke for the win.
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