Despite the rise of electronic suspension controllers, remote lockouts are still popular in XC racing. But many options are awkward to use - those with levers above the handlebar are tricky to operate especially on bumpy terrain, while others don't play nicely with dropper post remotes. Today DT Swiss launch two new remotes for their suspension products, which allow the fork and shock to be simultaneously changed between their three compression modes - "Open", "Drive" and "Lock". Crucially, the two levers required to adjust the suspension are located under the bar, within ergonomic reach of the rider's left thumb. The L3 adds a dropper post remote which sits underneath the suspension levers, putting all the controls within thumb's reach.
L2 & L3 Remote Details• Remote lockout (L2) or lockout and dropper (L3)
• L2 remote can be upgraded to L3
• Matchmaker X mount with bar clamp
• (Officially) compatible Forks: F 232 ONE / F 535 ONE, Shocks: R 232 ONE / R 535 ONE
• Compatible with most cable-operated droppers
• Claimed weight: 35g (L2), 68g (L3)
• Price: 59.90 € / 65.90 USD (L2), 99.90 € / 109.90 USD (L3)
• More info:
dtswiss.com The L2 remote can be upgraded with the dropper post lever to make it into an L3, so if you're still running a fixed seatpost it's possible to change your mind in future. The remote is officially only designed to work with DT Swiss suspension products, specifically the
232 ONE fork and shock for XC and
the 535 ONE platform for All Mountain riding.
However, when I quizzed DT Swiss about compatibility with other brands, they say the remote has been used with Fox's cable-operated suspension products and the amount of cable pull is the same as Fox use. Apparently, the cable pretension needs to be higher though. The dropper post lever on the L3 remote should work with most cable-operated droppers as they are less fussy about cable movement due to their on-off operation.
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orrr or orrrrrr XTR Dual Control STI 'brifters'
Does anyone remember those things??? What a time. What a world. What a terrible idea.
"WRONG LEVER!"
Move the lockout buttons up to the bar, with small linkages get the force down to the cable spools.
put the lockout buttons in line with the dropper lever, in board of it, with short throw so they're just a quick tap.
This smacks of an engineer being told how to engineer by a sales manager.
(I ride a Scott Spark RC)
[can they make it more compact?]
Since the very first Swiss watch everyone here are obsessed with finding new ways of doing things. If we are not able to do it better then everyone else, we'll do it equally well but more complicated. And you'll stand in line to pay for it.
If you want some simple, flowy and nice design.. call those Italians
Seriously, though, this is absurd. It's 2022. Can't we just skip straight to voice commands?
Bonus: we can then have $600 POC helmets with built-in voice functionality!
*rubs hands together, cackles like villain, checks bank account*
This is what happens when engineers who don’t ride design stuff.
If only the human brain was adaptable and muscle memory was a thing eh?
You running Shimano Dual Control brake levers? Why not?
Because you can "adapt" to them but the design is ergonomic crap. Same with these stacked levers.
Why are you messing with lockout in bumpy terrain? Even, if you forgot to unlock it shouldn't be that hard to smack the release lever, but how often is someone trying to get into a firmer mode in "bumpy terrain"?
I did get used to it, however I would regularly knee-cap myself on the low hanging dropper and it took me a long process of trial and error to finally find a non-Canyon branded remote for the dropper that not only had to bolt onto the underside of the shape shifter but also have the lever-throw angle be roughly the same as the levers above. Never again! However I am curious if this product could have taken the place of all that mess?
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Debatable. That dropper lever is pretty far away, gonna need a monster of a thumb to reach that without unwrapping the rest of the hand a bit.
This takes it a step further with great build quality and tactile precision. I like it and I've tested it.
Not a product for me personally, because I do not have not a single bike with remote suspension, but there are more than enough customers who have been looking for eaxctly this. And there is currently not a nicer option.
Still the L2/L3 is a great design and it's good to finally see it coming to market. It's an honor to be a part of the project, even if it's just a small one
Ridiculous. Why did they not arrange at least two of the levers like the two paddles on regular gear shifters? USP?
Also XC Racers: Except I'll need 8lbs of lockout levers, dropper levers, and hell, just extra levers because they look fast.
Three levers! Why??? I barely use any switch or suspension lock out at all, I have never missed it, not even when I raced XC. Dropper - check, Shock and Fork - what the heck?
My mechsanic is cutting my bike in half, when trying to fiddle all these through the frame (internal cable routing & more cables = death wish)
My thumb hurts from just looking at it lol
This is the "looks like a Scott" upgrade.
www.theonion.com/f*ck-everything-were-doing-five-blades-1819584036
"I use an L3 lockout system"
Nice addition that I expect will turn some heads no doubt…
"Yes"
Alexa -"I'm sorry I didn't get that"
rider - "Unlock my suspension"
Alexa - " you want to order spagetti? Sure what type?"
rider - "NO ...Unlock my suspension"
Alexa- " The northern serengeti is on the content of Africa ..."
rider - "Alexa shut up and unlock my suspension!"
Alexa- "there is no need to be rude, how can I help"
rider - "sigh" "never mind .... I'll just go home"
Alexa - "sure do you need directions? I also can show you deals on suspension lockouts for the home..."