Ask Us Anything: DVO Suspension - Finished

Jul 18, 2017
by Mike Levy  



It's not often that a new suspension start-up hits the scene running, but that's exactly what DVO did when they debuted their inverted Emerald downhill fork back in 2012. Five years on and DVO's catalog has grown to include a dropper post, multiple offerings for the mid-travel crowd, both coil and air-sprung shocks, and they also recently debuted their lower priced Onyx DC downhill fork. That's a whole lot of headway in the high-end suspension segment, a market that, up until just a few years ago, only had two or three major players.

So, do you have a question about one of DVO's forks or shocks? Need some suspension setup advice? Curious as to what's coming in the future? DVO's Lead technician Ronnie Dilan, along with Marketing and Product Development specialist Bryson Martin Jr, are here to answer your questions, beginning today at 10:00 AM PDT.



Bryson Martin Jr - DVO Marketing Product Development

Bryson Martin Jr. – Marketing / Product Development

A man of many hats, Bryson Martin Jr. can also more than hold his own on a bike. That speed led him to a spot on the Junior Worlds Team for the USA back in 2010, and he hasn't gotten any slower since, a fact that works well with his product development role at DVO.
Ronnie Dilan - DVO Lead Technician

Ronnie Dilan – Lead Technician

Having been in the suspension game since 1998, it's safe to say that Ronnie knows a thing or two when it comes to springs, shims, and oil. Dilan has had a major role in the development of DVO's current range of forks and shocks, and he's also the man getting his hands dirty in the service department.


DVO Diamond 110 Boost fork in brown and green


How ‘Ask Us Anything' Works:

Starting at 10:00 AM PDT/6:00 PM BST on Tuesday, July 18th you can type your questions for DVO into the comment box following this article and the guys will have a crack at answering them. Sometimes your answer will pop up in a few seconds; others may take a few minutes while Bryson and Ronnie work their way through questions that are popping up. Everyone who posts a question, large or small, will be taken seriously.

To make this go as smooth as possible, try to follow these guidelines:

Keep your questions relevant
Stay focused and to keep your questions on one topic if possible. You can always ask about another item later
• Try to keep your questions to about 100 words
Ask Us Anything is a service to PB readers who are seeking helpful information, not a forum to broadcast opinions or grievances. If you do have an issue that you want to ask about, no worries, just keep your complaints relevant and in the context of a question so that it can be addressed in a productive manner
Use propping to acknowledge good (or not so good) questions and bump them up or down to where they belong

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MENTIONS: @DVOSuspension



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616 Comments

  • + 146
 Why does the mountain bike industry continue to suppress tandem downhill bike racing?
  • + 30
 Bro, turn on the news. RUSSIA.
  • + 40
 @nickkk: In Russia, bike ride you.
  • + 1
 @nickkk: They are DH racing tandems in Russia?
  • + 5
 Nicolai had one. At one of these bike expos last year there was also one from another German company. Rose or Canyon, can't remember exactly. And according to Magura, their Gustav M (at the time) was the only disc brake certified for tandem use. So not necessarily Russia, but definitely Germany.
  • + 8
 Nah it's just where you live. There's a tandem class at the NZ DH nats.
  • - 1
 What does the fox say?
  • + 29
 we have tandem riders rocking DVO on there bikes. No hating from the green team!
  • + 14
 Because their goal is to sell more bikes, promoting a 2 rider to everyone 1 bike format would cut sales in half and decimate the bike industry.
  • + 1
 maybe if tandem DH racing becomes more popular. Personally i'll buy and pay for it, not just for entertainment, but for the sake of bikes & the general sport itself. I guess I'll say "Take my money guys!"
  • + 1
 @badbietz: This^
I assume this is also why unicycling hasn't taken off either. When you are only selling a small fraction of the components per person the profits go down.
  • + 1
 @hbar314: What, unicycling hasn't taken off? Pretty sure mountain unicycling grew quite a bit over the past couple of years. The biggest hurdle for the industry is that people have the perception that it is difficult. Once that's sorted (that is, once it is commonly accepted that learning to ride a unicycle is just as easy as learning to ride a bicycle or to walk) I expect it to become huge.

By your logic, tricycle riding should be more popular than bicycle riding. I don't think that is the case.
  • + 1
 @vinay: I never meant to imply that the amount of wheels should dictate the popularity. I was just following along with badbeitz.

Do you think tricycling is poised to take off? I'll be honest, I'm not up to date in the triking world.
  • + 1
 @chyu: the fox says "buy DVO!"
  • + 79
 Why do suspension companies not use progressive coils in coil forks to get the small bump sensitivity of coil and the progressive nature of air in one fork?
  • + 16
 Or shocks for that matter
  • + 7
 ohlins does.

@me2menow i have to imagine with shocks it is tougher since you have a much shorter stroke.
  • + 17
 @adrennan: everything is possible if you b e l i e v e
  • + 1
 Didn't Manitou experiment with 2 different weight springs one on top of the other to try this?
  • + 1
 @CustardCountry: i am fairly certain that is how ohlins is doing the coil rxf 36. there was a video from sea otter breaking it down i think
  • + 4
 Too many springs to hold in inventory. You can still have progression with a linear coil spring of your valving is good and tuned properly.
  • + 0
 superalloyracing.com/sar-launches-psp-fork-tuning-kit-eurobike-2016 last I heard earliest release would be fall 2017.
  • + 8
 Stratos shocks had it. Before spesialized sued them.
  • - 5
flag josh101389 (Jul 18, 2017 at 0:26) (Below Threshold)
 rockshox is pretty good at that with the charger damper
  • + 15
 BRING BACK COIL FORKS!!!! Not a question, its ransom demand. Gun to your head, tied up, SWAT team outside. All I want is a Pepsi and some coil forks for my Capra.
  • + 8
 @CustardCountry: Manitou had some sweet elastomer forks where you could swap out the rubber bumpers and create spring progression that way!
  • + 7
 @josh101389: @chrisrobin : that isn't progression in terms of spring rate. that is damping you are describing which is speed sensitive. admittedly most people don't care enough to know or feel the difference.
  • + 2
 @chrisrobin: What a terrible reason..
  • + 68
 @Boardlife69: we were the leaders in coil forks during the marzocchi days. Open bath Moto style! We're going to be bringing some of that back very soon!
  • + 7
 @bryson-dvo: thats what i like to hear
  • + 3
 @Boardlife69:
Go 350 NCR Ti then.
  • + 4
 @bryson-dvo:
Hello!

When and what travel? Open bath on both legs?
Or some of that only means coil?
  • + 23
 @ibex: Most likely we will do it in the Diamond Chassis. So 140-170 range. Not exactly sure if we're going the full open bath or hybrid style just yet. Depends on the actual ride feel once we start testing
  • + 5
 @bryson-dvo: i will gladly test ride for you Wink
  • + 2
 @bryson-dvo: if you need a tester for those long decents in the Swiss Alps here I am.
  • + 9
 @matthasard We have some previous experience with producing forks with progressive coils in the past. It was actually a nightmare to manage the inventory with the amount of springs needed to offer a range that will meet customers demands.
  • + 0
 @Boardlife69: read the article before this one!!
  • + 2
 @ronnie-dvo: A 55 with the air preload and adjusting the oil weight/level gave you that open bath coil best fork ever feeling and had a somewhat progressive rate depending on oil levels. Wouldnt this be better than vast inventory of progressive springs????
  • + 3
 @Boardlife69: loving my 55RC3 Ti forks. Still smooth as when new
  • + 2
 @bryson-dvo: A conversion kit would be nice too.
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: Date of availability in Europe?
  • + 9
 We do have a lot of past experience in making progressively wound coil springs during our days at Marzocchi and there are some restrictions to achieving the exact spring rate performance because of the small stanchion tube diameters as well as some other factors. We have found its easier to produce a liner coil spring which is lighter and generate the progressiveness from damping and air/oil volume.
  • + 2
 @CustardCountry: Best part is that you could have a 350 with 55 internals. If you want to run 27,5.
  • + 1
 @gnralized: haha just as I post that question that article pops up with a coil conversion that is progressive...
  • + 2
 @bryson-dvo: must admit I really do like my marzocchi 55 ti forks, so much initial grip compared to my fox 36's
  • + 3
 @mayhemsport: Had a Stratos FR4 fork and Helix Pro shock on a Schwinn Homegrown 4 Banger, was pretty sweet for its time. Had that gold anodized Stratos downhill fork on the first year Santa Cruz Super 8.
  • + 1
 @LittleDominic: Their rear shocks where pretty plush. Have a friend that hasa newly served stratos s8 fork on one of his bikes. Whey bigger fork than it looks like on photos.
  • + 66
 Any plans on producing a Cubic Zirconia model fork, you know, for those of us on a budget.
  • + 4
 The Beryl is coming out soon, but let this serve as the official petition for a name change to Cubic Zirconia!
  • + 7
 Haha with Diamante as the mid-range offering
  • + 6
 @ctd07: And amethyst fork (in purple) for the ladies!
  • + 9
 lol... we'll get right on it!
  • + 2
 @Kiwiplague: OMGGGGGGG that would go perfect with my bike ! YESSSS PLEASE !!!
  • + 15
 @ctd07: Diamante is dope. If we come out with that, you're getting a free one as royalty for the awesome name! lol
  • + 4
 Zirconia isnt a bad name
  • + 2
 @Kiwiplague: love it...hats off to you. Cool name, female specific trail forks
  • + 5
 @bryson-dvo: woohoo can't wait! I have friends who rescue grey hounds and they got one called Diamond, they renamed it Diamante because it sounded more glamorous... I had to say 'you do realise diamante is a fake diamond right?' haha
  • + 45
 What product would you guys like to bring to market but don't because it won't sell?
  • + 34
 That's actually a tricky question since DVO isn't a company only driven by profit. We prefer to make cool products that we like regardless of sales. The Emerald is a perfect example of that. That fork was never intended to sell in massive numbers, it's just something different and cool that shows what we're about as a company. If we think it's cool and we would ride it, it's coming to market. Good question!
  • + 43
 On a scale of turd burger to ham sandwich what do you think of the current axel standards.
  • + 31
 if i give you $5 and a half eaten burrito, will you promise to never stop the brown paint scheme.
  • + 5
 *rootbeer
  • + 5
 Left half or right half?
  • + 1
 Im painting my farkin' house that colour!
  • + 8
 What is the estimated residual sauce factor? That is a very important factor in the half eaten burrito market.
  • + 3
 Never selling my Rootbeer Emerald! I remember back in 2013 when I saw a brown fork ride by, I knew that was the fork I wanted. DVO 4 life!
  • + 1
 @atrokz: damn didn't know it had a name, as i've only seen it listed as brown.
  • + 5
 @colourclashing: old ridemonkey joke. everything had to come in rootbeer and everything looked flexy.
  • + 2
 @Dabomb684: Is the Emerald as good as I hope it's going to be? I'm about to spend a large portion of my life savings on one and, with everything bike, there's no friggin way to test it before I buy it.
  • + 2
 @atrokz: Santa Cruz Bikes originated the 'Root Beer' color back in the daaaaaaay.
  • + 0
 @endlessblockades: yup! We all wanted a bullit in rootbeer.
  • + 1
 @atrokz: Yep - but by the time I got around to getting a Bullit in 2003, GOLD was available so I went for that!
  • + 9
 Done!
  • + 1
 @endlessblockades: I remember that gold, same on the OG V10, that was a beast of a bike and kinda rode like shit. haha
  • + 13
 @ermoldaker: absolutely. If for some crazy reason it's not everything you thought it would be, we will take care of you and make sure it is. We got your back dude!
  • + 3
 @Dabomb684: right on bro! Glad to have you on the green team!
  • + 5
 @Clarkeh: is the burrito wet? how much rice was used during the assembly process?
  • + 4
 @Dabomb684: That Root beer Emerald is my favorite color to hit the market. I just did a pretty sweet tune for a local rider on his RBE a few minutes ago.
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: thanks, I'll get on that this week then. What a great excuse to spend more time on the DH bike too.
  • + 3
 @ermoldaker: Exactly what Bryson said. Best customer service, so if you don't like it, you'll get the support. I love mine and I'm even more stoked for the Onyx. But the Emerald is what got me into DVO, so I'll always keep it. I may even take the stanchions and make door handles some day. Custom bike house all the way haha.
  • + 1
 @Dabomb684: Thanks guys for discussing this with me. I bought an Emerald in the end and absolutely love it. In the 'car park test' there's an initial bit of resistance from the very top of the stroke but on the trail the thing feels totally planted, with loads of support when required but total sensitivity across the smaller stuff. This is on the first ride with very little setup; so I'm really excited to play with it and get the most from it. My Demo now feels really nicely balanced front to rear, where before it felt like the front was rattling about, whilst the rear was smoothly tracking the ground.

Thanks @DVOSuspension @bryson-dvo @ronnie-dvo
  • + 21
 Why do shock companies, and most bike companies for that matter insist on using bushings for shock eye pivots? I recently replaced my rear bushings with needle bearings and it feels noticeably better, especially on small bumps. Why not encourage the use of something that will make your shock feel so much better?
  • + 10
 I agree with you, but the needle bearing last about half as long for me before I get significant play. I don't think they are rated as high for ultimate load capacity. I think the frame manufacturers should be fitting bearings either side of the shock mounts instead.
  • + 4
 @yeti-monster: Damn man, I had never thought of that configuration, but that... that would be awesome!
  • + 3
 A smart design can mitigate the issue by keeping the shock rotation minimal
  • + 1
 Hi all! On a mechanical aspect, you use bushings for high loads usage (as it has been said). The bearings will be smoother indeed (because of the initial play of this solution) but will suffer from these high loads and you will end up changing them more often. I would think that it also highly depends on the suspension configuration of the bike : From one system to another, there is certainly differences on the loads (value, angle of application...) applied to the pivots.
Anyway, quality bushings can already make a difference compared to the standard ones.
  • + 3
 @yeti-monster: My Demo is like this... It's noticeably more reactive than other bikes I have ridden.
  • + 6
 As much as we all complain about new standards, that's one of the reasons that some companies are moving to the trunnion mount. It will allow for the use of larger bearings, so they shouldn't wear out as fast.
  • + 5
 @mrosie: I think that the extra cost associated with needle bearing in place of the Igus busing is the main issue. The Igus bushing is an affordable part that we consider a consumable. Actually we consider any eyelet bushing a consumable item. A majority of our customers prefer to have a part that can be replaced easily and not leave a hole in the wallet every 3-4 months.
  • + 1
 @yeti-monster: the lower shock mount on my orbea rallon does just that, no eyelet bushing, two bearings and an axle
  • + 4
 @ronnie-dvo: I have had both the needle bearings and the bushings in my Jade shock. And currently am running a needle bearing for the lower shock mount and a bushing in the upper mount. The tolerance stack up between Igus bushing, sleeve, and thru bolt can be kind of tricky depending on eyelet size and compression of said bushing,based on the press fit interference not to mention the manufacturer. This can lead to different fits and feels of the suspension. Too much interference, and you will have to adjust the shock accordingly for the drag. Too much slip fit, you develop play initially or get it out of the gate. I have been extremely happy with my needle bearing kit, and just had to replace some pieces after beating on it for 2 seasons. Replacement parts were around the same price as a bushing kit, although up front cost of the needle bearing kit is more. But I can say one thing, the feel is COMPLETELY different. I had to re tune the rear shock for just adding 1 needle bearing kit. Hardly any resistance at all and there was no slop between components. Another factor between the two is how much rotational actuation the eyelets see during suspension travel. It's kind of pointless to have a needle bearing kit in an eyelet that doesn't see much rotation...defeats the purpose of the bearing. Hence why I chose to run one on the eyelet of the shock that saw more rotation during suspension action. Although I did fight the initial run of bushings that came with the Jade (as did my buddy) I had a lengthy conversation with DVO about this and I was told that I would receive the new run of bushings. Never did, but I just ponied up and ordered a kit anyway. I run the Emerald as well, and I can say nothing bad about it. It's engineered beautifully and is very user friendly to the home mechanic who appreciates the little things that other companies miss to make the fork easy to service. Not to mention it's the closest thing to the old Zoc feeling that you'll get. No complaints here about having to put 300cc+ of oil!
  • + 5
 @krashDH85: I think that the needle bearing kit is a great after market addition. Sorry if I forget to get back to you on any replacement hardware kit that was promised. I will gladly send it out if you email me Ronnied@dvosuspension.com.
  • + 3
 @ronnie-dvo: Thanks so much for the reply! If I can get at least six months out of a needle bearing kit (on a Yeti 5.5), it's worth it. At $35 bucks it's not too painful and worth the performance upgrade IMO, but your reasoning makes sense.
  • + 2
 @mrosie: You'll easily get 6 months out of it if installed properly, yadda yadda. I ride in the NW where there can be some pretty nasty conditions.
  • + 0
 Due to the low friction coefficient of IGUS bushings, a lot of the bind will come from tolerance errs causing a press fit vs slide fit, and the lack of coatings on the shaft (if alu anodizing isn't going to improve COF very much at all, uncoated steel is also bad, mostly machined to 32RA or greater) will also cause some friction increase. If the assembly is slide fit, and the shaft/axle is DLC or similarly coated, the COF will be very low (DLC is Teflon COF) and the assembly will have minimal bind or fiction and be able to take loads higher than that of a needle bearing assembly.
  • + 1
 @atrokz: Agree that coatings can play a huge roll as far as friction goes. Anodized aluminum I would think would be a worse COF Due to anodizing being an oxide layer thickness. Purely depends on the finishing process to the surface before and after anodizing. You can have a very polished ano or a pretty rough one too. But loading capacity is really independent of finish and is based on material properties. The IGUS provides more surface area to load than the needle bearing setup. Load distribution is the key. In either setup, the failure will be wear. Whether the wear from the needle bearings on the sleeve (even though both are hardened material) creates a binding scenario, or wear of the bushing that creates play. Each have their pro's and cons. But there is no doubt that the needle bearing provides a lower COF compared to a bushing setup
  • + 0
 @krashDH85: can't really accurately measure COF on a roller bearing (although there's a formula to ballpark frictional moment), it's the stack/fit that changes how it behaves and what RA the shaft is to begin with. With Ano, depends on type but the only one that should ever be used is type 3, and that is etch then a build up of oxide layer, which you're correct in saying is affected by the inital Ra just like every other coating (sand/glass blast = matt, smooth is polished prior, etc). That extra surface area is one thing that allows a bushing to perform better in terms of handling loads, where needles will roll nicer but are more prone to failure (all things being equal). I guess it should come down to what the application is, what degree of rotation does the pivot see, even leverage ratios, etc. The common failure for needle bearings is FOD causing wear. maybe for lighter riders, needle bearings are a nice option, and for larger or harder riders, the COF will be negligible.
  • + 1
 @atrokz: I definitely agree with what you are saying, and that there is really no accurate measurement of the bearing setup. Although in the case of suspension application, the degree that the rebound needed to be changed between a new bushing and bearing kit tells you "by the seat of the pants" what's going on. Yes in any wear type application type 3 ano should only be used if aluminum is the material of choice (In the IGUS setup). The needle bearing kit uses a steel sleeve with a (what looks to be) ground surface finish. And agreed again, FOD is the main killer of any bearing setup. For this particular application, it's easier to replace the bearing and sleeve for $10 then clean and maintain it every so often. Compared to my linkage bearings in the bike where I religiously clean and repack multiple times in a season and they are still rolling as clean as the day I bought the bike.
  • + 1
 @krashDH85: yea, you running them on your jedi?
  • + 1
 @atrokz: I'm running the RWC needle bearing kit in the lower shock eye and an IGUS setup on the upper mount.
  • + 1
 @krashDH85: neato. I assume roller element on the one that rotates the most?
  • + 1
 @atrokz: That is correct
  • + 18
 What's one suspension product or feature that you miss and wish there was currently a demand for that would justify production?
  • + 16
 coil single crown forks. i am answering for dvo so that they make me a coil fork. someone has to do it for me eventually.
  • + 7
 @adrennan: Already on the way: Ohlins RXF 36 COIL
  • + 8
 @hbar314: not offered in 275.

i have looked into this extensively
  • - 5
flag mollow (Jul 17, 2017 at 14:01) (Below Threshold)
 @adrennan:

They've got to have one for 27.5 as well please someone ffs tell me I'm right.
  • + 3
 @mollow: you are wrong unfortunately. i have emailed back and forth begging them and last i talked with them, there arent even plans to make one. makes no sense to me.
  • + 1
 #Coilforksaintdead. Plenty of companies making coil conversion kits.
  • + 2
 @adrennan: Marzocchi has one with a titanium spring.
  • + 1
 @vinay: ok marzocchi. fair. just with the downside that you dont know how long they will be supported for if you have issues. i wish there was more info out on that one.
  • + 1
 @Boardlife69: as far as I can tell there is one coil conversion out there for the lyric (what I have). and wanna talk about voided warranties?
  • + 3
 @adrennan: Marzocchi 350
  • + 4
 @adrennan: Is there no such thing anymore as a Fox Vanilla 36?

As for Marzocchi, are you expecting issues with spares? I might have missed something but the last thing I heard was that Fox bought Marzocchi and that Marzocchi would keep producing and releasing Marzocchi gear. Which seemed to be the case at least until recently. Harry Heath and his team (forgot who was on it, didn't he also have the Italian national champ on board?) are running Marzocchi. Ryan Leech was also sponsored by them but in his most recent videos I saw him ride Fox forks so I don't know whether anything changed recently.
  • + 1
 @vinay: tom van steenbergan is on the 380, for now marzocchi is scheduled for production through 2018 at least, I can 100% guarantee it.
  • + 4
 @vinay: maybe i have a tainted experience. last time i brought a marzocchi fork into a LBS for service, they looked at me funny and told me I should probably buy a new fork.
  • + 1
 @adrennan: depending on the model i may agree
  • + 1
 @adrennan: They've just released the RXF 36 in 650B as an air fork last week (their first 650B fork). So a coil version must be on the cards.
  • + 2
 @BaeckerX1: just saw that. the response i got was no option for lyric Frown
  • + 2
 @adrennan: Honestly air stuff rides so good these days I'm surprised you're still on that coil jam. Your bike is a beast. I'd hate to pedal that thing around all day. Smile
  • + 1
 @BaeckerX1: meh weight doesnt bug me too much if the parts are bombproof and work. and coil will always ride better than air. less seals, less stiction.
  • + 3
 @adrennan: 350 NCR Ti.
  • + 1
 @ibex: i wish there was more info out there on it. i have seriously considered taking the plunge and trying. just dont have total trust in marz (snapped the lowers on one set, blew up the damping on a different so they need to re-earn my trust)
  • + 4
 @me2menow

This is exactly the reason why DVO Suspension was born. We were all getting tired of the instant gratification approach that has been adopted by most of the other brands. We wanted to have the ability to give our customers the same features that we wanted to play with to fine tune our rides.
  • + 1
 @adrennan: I have 2 of them. With 2 year warranty and street prices of around 6-700 Eur in Europe for Ti I wouldn't fear. There are some servicing movies available and doing it yourself is easy. Very good fork. And versatile. Can be lowered if needed (new spring of course). Air preload takes care of fine tuning for different rider weights. Total trust nowadays, as you say, is a thing of the past, with all brands. In fact, some of them were never thrustworthy. But at the moment the 350 Ti ticks all the boxes that a serious fork has to. Get one, you'll enjoy it very much. And if the bad fox decides to kill it in 2 years, get the spares needed to run another 2-3 years, even if with todays changing landscape of geo's and standards, or just because you'll feel the need for a new one, I don't believe you have to plan for such a long product life. Then, I really hope some serious company would pick up and do a real fork. Seems there is one that listens here.. Smile In the mean time, you are covered.
  • + 1
 @ibex: good to hear. reading up on what i can find about them. unless those dvo ( @ronnie-dvo and @DVOSuspension ) guys want to send me a coil prototype Smile
  • + 1
 @adrennan: Reading up will be difficult, because in a RS infected world not many had the courage to swim against the current. Do you have specific questions?
  • + 1
 @ibex: i gotta say i am looking for them all the big online retailers seem to have dropped marzocchi. i know if i go to my LBS and ask for a marzocchi they will look at me realllly weird. jenson had 350s up until a month ago but no more and the other marzocchi stuff is like 70 percent off. really looks like marzocchi is dying Frown
  • + 1
 @adrennan: Not necessarily. Could be that at low volume sales they do not want to bother. But even if it's being killed, have one and live happily. Seem I'm lucky in Europe there are some sites that sell them. I guess this won't be an option to you?
  • + 1
 @ibex: I would agree with you, the discounting jenson had to offer to get them to move is obscene. They are a quality product at a phenomenal price when discounted that heavily, but figure jenson didn't turn a profit at that point, they just liquidated old stock.

Having to convince the target market you are catering to that they should buy your product at 50% off is silly, just shows how much damage MARZ did to their reputation over the years that when they finally made a top notch product people wouldn't even consider it. Shame seeing as how the guys that run dvo now did most of the design and tuning on the stuff before they left.
  • + 1
 @adrennan: They're OEM on BTR bikes (if you can call that OEM). I honestly doubt Fox is going to drop Marzocchi. That'd give them a very bad rep. Marzocchi still has a following and should play to its strengths. That might mean you need to release the product everyone is calling for even though you may not even sell that many. Just to get peoples attention. Get a new Shiver SC out, a couple of 26" forks, simple DJ forks. Just release something simple as a MXComp with open bath and all that even though the critics say cartridge is so many percent lighter and more consistent and all that. I'm pretty sure for many people the simplicity and reliability are what counts. It is probably easier to perform a complete service on one of those than on something like a RS Sektor fork that's currently spec'd as basic/cheap. Fox just caters for that very high end "we got 7.4% lighter and made the fork 2.3% more consistent" market whereas I view Marzocchi as having a more hooligan "shut up and ride" mentality. Of course they released some very sophisticated forks but so have others. What they do have is a name and a history. And a reputation to do things differently and take chances (back in the day). So safest is actually to do what people are calling for but what is still rare. A USD fork, coil sprung, 26". Take chances, Fox provides the money.
  • + 1
 @ronnie-dvo: Awesome. Look forward to what you guys will put out. I think you'll be killing it.
  • + 1
 @adrennan: you're a lucky man ! Have a look at CR Conception, his spring kit exists for many forks or could be custom made for you with a custom spring. Also thanks to a clever design you may also keep your fork at the same weight if not lighter !
  • + 1
 @Balgaroth: i have seen that option. i wish i could get a bit more info on it. real world experiences etc because once that is installed i can say bye bye to my warranty.
  • + 1
 @jewpowered: If a brand drops in sales that does not necessarily mean that the reputation or the product is bad.
If the customers are choked with aggressive and extensive marketing they hand their money to who shouts louder. And there is the fear of going a different way than the crowd. That only shows how much of a gamble it is staying alive on the market. And this happens with all of the products in the bike industry, all day; you enter in a bikeshop chatting about the problems you had on a FS bike (direct sales brand, which already had sorted the problem out with stellar service) and the only thing you hear is that you deserved it since you did not buy Specialized from a local bike shop (at double the price). The ending that things got very smooth and professional is totally ignored. There is much hate in the MTB industry. And it distorts the sales, because people pay for stories not for facts.
  • + 1
 @adrennan: get in touch with Richard the owner, email works or even FB, super helpfull and accessible man. Waranty on a RS shouldn't be a big deal, forks are usually reliable, otherwise splash a big more cash and get his whole cartridge, that way you will never need the warranty from RS Wink
  • + 1
 @Balgaroth: well i just had to get the CSU warrantied on my lyrik and the damper warrantied on my pike dj so my faith in rockshox products is very low right now. and i know RS would blame a creaky CSU on a coil conversion.
  • + 13
 I just want to say thanks to the whole DVO crew for going out on a limb and taking some huge financial risks in taking on the big companies. You guys are doing an outstanding job in both product quality/performance and customer service. I needed help with setup once and received help from Ronnie over the phone. That personal touch, coupled with high performance on the trail has me sold. That connection with your customers means something! I've ridden everything else out there and like the feel of DVO Suspension the best. The only thing I'd like to see different is more OEM DVO options so I don't have to upgrade when buying a new rig already built up. Keep it up! Thanks!
  • + 3
 Thanks buddy!
  • + 12
 What are your thoughts on fork offset? It seems like some companies are starting to think that less is more. Are your current offsets based on industry "standards," or have you done testing to get where you are at? Thoughts on how this might change in the future?
  • + 3
 I'm surprised that smaller companies like DVO don't just do a single diameter stanchion and width, then allow buyers lots of options for offset. I'd think a slightly heavier XC/TR fork with trimmed down stanchions to reduce weight (max travel 120mm) while maintaining stiffness (still 35mm diameter) but with 42mm-51mm offset would be cool. If a consumer decided "I need more travel" they could just buy a new CSU.

Likewise, there is still some developments to be made in the market in regards to A2C and intended wheel diameter. It'd be sweet if more manufacturers offered forks with super low A2C for a 29er model that could also have a competitive A2C for 275x2.6. I'm curious about what goes into the arch shapes and how that might influence A2C.
  • + 3
 @DVOSuspension: Any chance of a 29 boost fork with 46mm offset being made available? Thanks
  • + 12
 Current fork offset standards are way outdated. We're testing a lot of different offsets especially for 29ers and they make a world of difference. My 29er trail bike now corners better than my 27.5 bike. It's about time offsets change or at least give people to option to choose what they want.
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: Are there options for my Diamond in the offset department? I went from a Pike 46mm to the Diamond @ 51mm. I do prefer the steering of the lower offset on my Smuggler. Are 27.5 CSU's compatible?
  • + 2
 @ukr77: did you go from a 27.5 pike to the 29er diamond? We are currently working on a 46 for the 29ers. I agree with you, it's MUCH better
  • + 2
 @kwapik: Absolutely, we have been testing it for the past year and we will have the upgrade available soon.
  • + 1
 @DVOSuspension: Does that mean you can replace the lowers on a current diamond to get 46mm offset? Will this be for the Boost version only?
  • + 1
 @CTYankee: yes, Boost version only.
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: The 46mm offset was the Pike 29er that came on the Process 111 last year. Even as off as a 150mm fork was on that bike, the trail just made it work. Performance wise the DVO is fantastic. As with most new Diamond owners, I had to check my front tire pressure a few times just to be sure haha.

Looking forward to the upgrade, THANK YOU ;-)
  • + 10
 I love my Emerald! I want to open up the compression bottom loader. Is there a better shim stack configuration I could use that would make a more useful range? Any updates for rebound as well? I want to make the best even better!
  • + 6
 Ronnie can give you all kinds of stack configurations to suite your riding style and weight. Give him a call at the shop!
  • + 5
 @chihuahuapants how much do you weigh? email me so that we can dig a little deeper with your setup. I have all kinds of tweaks that you might enjoy playing with. Ronnied@dvosuspension.com
  • + 2
 fuck yeah! a man should be able to fine tune his fork himself, period
  • + 10
 Question for Ronnie Dilan. DVO’s website says the company uses, “most advanced design software and hardware available." Can you go into detail about the process DVO uses with CAD/CAM technologies to reduce cost and increase quality?
Additionally, the website mentions the use of rapid prototyping with a 3D printer. Is this done only to ensure parts are properly sized and keep dimensional mistakes form going through to machining, or are hoping to one day rely on additive manufacturing?
  • + 5
 That would be cool to hear about, even though us nerds are insatiable.
  • + 8
 Hey curt34,

We use Solidworks to design 100% of the product that we produce. We use our 3D printer so that we can get a realistic idea of how some parts will actually fit or feel when introduced to the mating parts. most of the time Tom or Zeke will print a quick idea to see how it will looks physically.
  • + 1
 @ronnie-dvo: woops, meant to hit prop but missed...
  • + 13
 I like you guys. That is all
  • + 9
 we like you bro.
  • + 10
 @Grizzlycycles661 you just like the way we fork.
  • + 8
 @ronnie-dvo: spooning leads to forking
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 @bryson-dvo: What a shocking progression!
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: see you guys Thursday to pick some goodies up
  • + 9
 I am a proud DVO customer - love my Diamond fork and Topaz shock. I would have been a customer sooner but couldn't put that green fork on any bikes I owned. When the black version came out I was in! Any additional color schemes planned for the future?
  • + 8
 Glad to have you as a customer! For now its green, black, and brown. Any more than that gets a bit rough on the inventory management side.
  • + 5
 @bryson-dvo: I realize green is your thing, but have you thought about a blackout kit someone could add to make their black fork all black, or green fork less green?

My red bike really looks like crap with the green accents on my Diamond and Jade. Looks like a Christmas bike. Black QR, black air caps/dials, Black spring perch... And then all black decals... Would be HOT!
  • + 6
 @nuttypoolog: we're working on black anodized kits!
  • + 12
 Ronnie, I will give you $20 to take a bite out of that cheeseburger!!!!!!
  • + 2
 I got 20 on that too, what's it 8 years old?
  • + 1
 hell no
  • + 1
 Come on Ronnie!! You can do eet!!!

And splsce, I think the burger just celebrated it's 7 birthday if I remember?
  • + 11
 It is going to take a couple more dollars to make that happen. I plan on auctioning that cheeseburgers on pinkbike when it turns 10.
  • + 3
 @ronnie-dvo: You know it probably tastes the same as the day it was made. It's just "artisanal aged" now. It probably would pair well with a nice 12YO scotch.
  • + 4
 Fine. A benjamin it is Ronnie! Let's do this!!
  • + 4
 @splsce: it is 8 now
  • + 3
 Does it shave yet?
  • + 1
 @whattheheel: I think that McDonalds figured out how to avoid all hair growth on the food they developed.
  • + 2
 Figures. I'll let you get back to more importanter questions. Keep kicking ass buddy!
  • + 6
 So impressed with my diamond fork. Do you have a release date for the single crown 180 onyx? Do you plan on offering shorter e2e and stroke coil rear shocks with a climb switch and coil fork options? Although with the ott adjustment on my diamond it is probably the closest , air fork, to coil feeling of any brand. Amazing quality too. Haven't had to touch mine
  • + 6
 Awesome dude, glad you're digging the product! We're currently working on all of the above. The ONYX SC will be coming towards the end of the year/beginning of next year.
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: What axle will the Onyx SC use? I know it is a long shot, but I am hoping it can use the traditional 20 x 110 non boost.
  • + 12
 @retswen: it's a 20mm boost but you can run your old wheel by spacing the rotor out 5mm's. We will supply the spacer. No new wheels or hubs so don't worry.
  • + 9
 I think my suspension fork is cheating on me. How do I confront it? I still love it but I'm bleeding inside. Pls answer.
  • + 15
 Have you tried riding it harder?
  • + 5
 @Boardlife69: this ISNT a joke man. I'm serious. I smelled Maxima SC1 on it. I don't use that brand. It's always making excuses not to be ridden. Speaking all the time about some wheel called 27.5. I'm in bits.
  • + 9
 It sounds like someone else is a better rider than you are. SC1 is pretty expensive so you should feel lucky that he is taking care of your fork like that. Don't confront your fork, just come home with a new one. Ronnie
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 @ronnie-dvo: I hear ya. I just... *stares into distance* ... they were the one. My mum told me not to trust a Marzocchi. What can I say, I like naughty euro forks. Thanks bro. Apreciate the straight talking.
  • + 2
 @nickkk: Italian suspension is always so distracted.
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 @ronnie-dvo: true.. also, have you ever considered changing your PB name to ' Ronnie James Dvo' ? Asking for a friend.
  • + 6
 I have a Topaz shock on my Banshee Spitfire and i love how it performs, with one caveat...i have to top off the air pressure before every ride. It doesnt seem to lose significant pressure during a ride, but overnight it will be cinsistently be down a small amount in the positive chamber and 20 or more lbs in the negative.
The shock lost a small amount of pressure every ride since it was new, and i've serviced it once as well, including changing out all the seals and the schrader valve cores.
Do you have any tips/tricks to get the Topaz to hold pressure long term?
  • + 4
 Same case here!
  • + 2
 sorry you're having trouble with your shock, hate hearing that! We will get you taken care of dude, don't worry! Please email Ronnie- ronnied@dvosuspension.com and we'll get you rolling. Again sorry about your issues
  • + 1
 @mawojciech I have only had a handful of costumers that have reported back to me on this same thing. The one thing that I found in common was damage to the o-ring that separates the positive chamber from the negative chamber. I also found some damaged valve cores that were causing issues for some customers. Did you replace all of the seals in the main air canister?
  • + 1
 @Fce18: have you also been losing PSI over a short period?
  • + 1
 I had the same issue!
  • + 8
 The DVO Jade is spec'd on the Canfield Brothers Balance. Do you have a suggested tune or should I start with the more generic base tunes suggested on your website?
  • + 2
 +1

mine feels good without much LSC and just 4 or 5 clicks of HSC, but wouldn't mind getting a recommended base tune
  • + 3
 My dudes, you can find base tunes (plus all the other shenanigans about each of their products) on their website under the 'TECH INFO' section.
  • + 2
 We do have a good setup guide located on our website. tech.dvosuspension.com/setup/jade but you can always email me Ronnied@dvosuspension.com to get some quick help.

Ronnie
  • + 2
 @ronnie-dvo: Thanks Ronnie - great to see community engaged companies!
  • + 9
 Hey Ronnie... Show us a card trick!
  • + 18
 Ronnie's card trick is taking you to lunch and magically paying for it with your card! haha...
  • + 3
 @bryson-dvo: I've seen that trick...
  • + 2
 @lumpy873: I have added a twist on the ending but I won't give up any of my secrets on here.
  • + 1
 @ronnie-dvo: as long as it involves the words "happy" and "ending"
  • + 5
 I have a 2017 Commencal Meta 4.2. I purchased the DVO Topaz for it. None of the DVO-recommended Rock Shox mouthing bushing kits fit the mounting eyes without play. No Fox mounting bushings fit at all front or rear. What do I use? My bike shop (Golden Bike in Golden, CO) has full RS & Fox bolt/bushing kits. Zero luck.
  • + 5
 RWC needle bearing kits. They have come with +/- sizes to get the exact fit. I've used them on almost every kind of shock including DVO.
  • + 2
 @Beez177: Thanks man. I'll check them out
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 @bman33: I agree with you, one would think the right size mounting hardware could be a little easier to get.
  • + 1
 @bman33: if you have no luck with them try amachete components in spain.
  • + 2
 I had same problem with YT jeffsy. In my case issue was the frame was out of spec not that the shock or shock hardware wasn't right. Email to YT got me a bag of shims they had made for all affected customers.
  • + 3
 Our shock comes with an IGUS bushing in the eyelet. For that bike you have to remove it and use a standard DU bushing. Do you have it set up like that?
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: Me and the guy at Golden Bike Shop tried each option with the Rock Shock bushing/ DU kit. The kit looked to have approx. 20 or so options. Both IGUS in and out. A few of the Rock Shocks bushings /bolt kits fit the frame, but they had play in the shock itself if that makes sense?
  • + 0
 HAVE THE SAME BIKE RUNNING THE TOPAZ FLAWLESSLY GET THE 22 X 10MM BUSHINGS FROM DVO CUT THEM TO EXACTLY THE RIGHT SIZE -USE A MICROMETER MEASURE THE FRAME MARK
THE BUSHINGS (SCRATCH A LINE ON THEM) AND USE A FILE IF YOU HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES MEASURE TWICE CUT ONCE / FILE TO PERFECTION-OR JUST FILE TILL THEY FIT WITHOUT MEASURING YOU CAN DO IT!! DVO HAS EXCELLENT BUSH--
  • + 1
 @alexfore: I say new frame posted to my door
  • + 8
 Any chance of seeing a coil sprung single crown fork?
  • + 9
 Yepp! In the works
  • + 2
 @bryson-dvo: 650b, please.
  • + 2
 @inter71: absolutely dude
  • + 7
 NEED Onyx NOW! not want...... NEED. Love you RONNIE! 11 months of Bliss on the Emerald since Crankworks.
  • + 2
 @CanfieldBrothers It is so close dude. I will be ripping through that Emerald when I get finished up on here.
  • + 1
 Also waiting patiently.... Onyx baby! Bring it!
  • + 8
 Will there ever be a man, who can swim faster than a shark?
  • + 5
 @doe222: Have you ever been to the opening day of Outerbike in Moab? I guarantee you that hoard of people can out swim a shark for a demo bike.
  • + 5
 I have a topaz. What's the benefit of putting bands in the negative chamber. I've read it's used if your not sagging enough but why would you do this over adjusting the pressure?
  • + 0
 So that way you won't bottom out as easy if you just lowered the pressure. With the spacers it'll cause your shock to be more progressive so you can have better small bump but it'll ramp up to hold you through the rough stuff without blowing through your travel
  • + 3
 The spacers in the negative side affect the amount of force it takes to initiate shock movement. It's a great tool to compensate for bikes that are too progressive. For example, the YT bikes are extremely progressive. (not saying that's bad at all) but some riders like to add spacers to the negative side of the shock to make it more supported in the initial stroke. Then you can lower your air pressure so the bike doesn't ramp up so hard at the end and still maintain sag. Air shocks are progressive by nature, just how it goes when you're compressing air. If you mix a progressive shock with a progressive bike, sometimes it becomes un-manageable. The tuning of the negative side allows you to compensate for that.

The ability to tune both chambers of the shock really allow you to make the shock suite any bike with whatever suspension design it may have.
  • + 1
 @treymotleyDH: Wussup Trey?!?!?
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: Do you guys have recomended setups for certain bikes in this regard? Just curious if there's a stock spacer config for the Devinci Spartan, as I have been thinking about going with the topaz on it. I know if I run a lot of sag on it with a Monarch Plus, it gets a bit wallowy.
  • + 1
 @ronnie-dvo: got bored waiting for a homie at the trails lol
  • + 4
 Why has it been so challenging for suspension companies to make CSUs that don't creak at the pressfit interfaces? You'd think that after 15+ years of long-travel single crown forks, this would be a non-issue.

(I have no experience with DVO forks and am not accusing them of being creaky. I just thought you might be able to comment on the design aspects.)
  • + 1
 EVERY single fork I've owned from Fox, RS, Manitou... all have ended up with creak CSUs. It was interesting that Ohlins came out with a single piece to eliminate that issue, but went back to a two piece pressfit interface for the RFX36...
  • + 2
 We have a special process that has just been implemented to eliminate the dreaded creaking issue. We have had a few of our uppers creak and since we have gone to this new process we are really confident that the creak will be forever eliminated!
  • + 1
 @DVOSuspension: I'd love to try and make one creak for ya! Awesome to hear you are implementing new processes to solve this problem.
  • + 4
 Whats your thoughts / take on the death of the star nut system for the new threaded or pinched through bolt systems which are emerging? It must be nice as a fork maker to no longer have everyone taking a hammer to their brand new steerer but are there concerns?
  • + 3
 That's a good move, star nuts are antiquated and they displace a lot of material inside the steer tube creating stress risers.
  • + 3
 IF you guys do a revision of the Emerald, or a brand new fork, do you plan to keep your externally adjustable coil neg spring? or will you guys go to a self equalizing/externally adjustable air neg spring system? Also any plans of a beefy 180mm?
  • + 2
 Check out the Onyx
  • + 2
 yep! The OTT will be a feature on all of our products. It works way too well not to use it. The ONYX single crown will be coming out soon!
  • + 1
 @Hunterchek : We are working on a SC version of the new Onyx. We also have a slight revision for the Emerald in the works right now, we will keep the external OTT adjustment feature to keep things consistent.
  • + 3
 When will the DVO Beryl be available to buy? (I'm in UK)

P.S. I don't currently own a DVO product but have read EVERYTHING online about the Topaz, Diamond and Beryl, your customer service and the fact you can completely service the shocks is brilliant. I'm going to retire my Marzocchi 350 and pushed Fox RP23 next year and will definitely be going green Big Grin
  • + 5
 Right on buddy! We do our absolute best to take care of the customers and make great products! The Beryl will be available very soon, that's a kick ass fork. Cheers!
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: Will the through bolt axle from the Beyrl be available for the Diamond?
  • + 1
 @amishmatt: yep! Same size
  • + 6
 When will the heavy duty air shock be released? Pricepoint? Adjustments?
When a SC USD Fork?
  • + 3
 Next year the new air shock will be released. It'll have both high and low speed compression and rebound. SC USD is a bit further out
  • + 3
 Why is the Emerald so flexy? You guys market the flex as good, yet no other suspension company tries that position, and neither has any rider I have encountered except sponsored riders. We see Fox with the 40 claiming to be the stiffest fork on the market, and RS with the Boxxer claiming the lightest DH fork on the market, as well as many other companies claiming stiff and light. In my experience owning one, the Emerald is neither. And same with the Diamond, I have heard nothing but complaints on flex with them.
  • + 5
 Ride a Manitou Dorado first then come back and see if you still call the Emerald so flexy as you say.
  • + 0
 I have an emerald and diamond. I think their great. Then again you've probably never ridden a white bros fork either.
  • + 2
 Never thought my Emerald felt flexy?? Diamond, I guess but no more so than Pike?
  • - 5
flag JumboJack (Jul 17, 2017 at 19:15) (Below Threshold)
 @Beez177: I could hold the front wheel between my legs and easily twist the bars a solid 20° or so. Given forks are going to have flex, it just seemed like my Emerald wasn't as sturdy as my other forks have been. My pike had less twist than the Emerald did.
  • + 6
 @JumboJack: sure it wasn't your rim flexing?
  • + 2
 @JumboJack: dumb question were you running your carbon arch as well? My emerald is one of the more rigid forks I've ran. Doesn't touch my old monster i used to run but it doesn't weigh 12 pounds either.
  • + 0
 @Beez177: Definitely wasn't the rim, I could watch the stanchions and "uppers" I guess flex like mad. And @scotttherider I was running the carbon arch.
  • + 8
 @JumboJack: You do realise that when you are actually on the bike there will be sag and that will only increase when riding. This means that the fork between the legs is a crap test for telling whether or not the fork is stiff when actually riding! The current Fox 40 is alot less stiff than previous versions from a few years back so that it doesn't deflect offline when you go through the rough stuff. Making every part of a bike as stiff as possible is a terrible idea. Flex is not only good in some places but essential!
  • + 5
 Hey JumboJack,

Are you actually riding an Emerald or is your only experience trying to flex it between your legs? I have run into a few Emeralds that had the crowns bolted in a very poor location. The riders were complaining about some flex and stiction in the stroke. It turned out that the lower crown was being installed above the correct clamping location, this cause the fork to twist and stick in the direction that you forced it in.

Ronnie
  • + 1
 @ronnie-dvo: I ran the Emerald for about 5 months before selling the bike. I didn't check to see if the lower crown was installed incorrectly, but I wasn't getting a sticky stroke, just the whole fork flexed a ton. and @SintraFreeride If the fork is flexy when there is no weight on it, it will only get more flexible when there is more weight on it, right? I understand flex is good, but no other fork manufacturer, or rider I should say, have said they like a more noodly fork. If you think for stiffness is good, then why aren't EWS guys running 32's or revelations as their preferred fork, not 36's or Lyrics?
  • + 2
 @JumboJack: Well duh, the 32 mm forks don't have good dampers.
  • + 2
 @JumboJack: The increased stiffness is due to the length of the fork legs decreasing as it goes further into the travel - the point where the stanchion connects to the legs gets closer to the axle and the legs get shorter.

I had a Dorado and loved it - sure the fork between the leg test seemed flexy, but it was plenty stiff where you needed it and didn't shoot offline too easy. As previously stated - the fork between leg test is pretty misleading for the inverted forks.
  • + 3
 @JumboJack: Sorry to hear that it didn't work out for you.
  • + 1
 @JumboJack: I tend to agree with you, their definitely not as stiff as 40's and (fast) riders do notice it!
  • + 4
 DIAMOND FORK description says "Dynamic rebound adjust via piston and shims"
When, how, and why would a rider want to start using these internal tuning features?
  • + 8
 We usually adjust the rebound stack if a rider is out of the stock rebound range. For example, if you're really light and you don't have enough pressure to get the rebound fast enough for you. We would adjust the stack to speed it up.

It's very rare that we get into a rebound stack because the rider is unhappy with the "feel" of it . It's more of a range thing...

The dynamic aspect of it refers to the rate at which the oil is flowing through the stack and how the shims control the rebound based on that. The faster that oil flows through it (big hits) the more the rebound slows down. The stack controls high and low speed rebound on it's own without having to externally adjust high and low speed independently. You could get in there and tune it but it's very rare we've had a rider that wants something different. The stock set up is pretty sweet.

Hope this helps!
  • + 2
 @ronnie-dvo - We've talked a number of times on the phone and you did a custom tune on my diamond to open up the compression. However, I am still struggling with getting the fork to not feel harsh during big repeated chunk (Pisgah fall line trails). 215-220LB geared up, running 115-125PSI 0 HSC (based on conversations with you guys), 8 full turns of OTT and, wide open LSC for full on DH.

Am I just way out of the spectrum on HSC? I tried running 6 clicks of HSC at Highland this past weekend and ended up dialing it back to wide open for the brake bumps
  • + 1
 @Shredthenoob where are you running the rebound? Have you tried to max out the OTT to see how the results change for your local trails?
  • + 2
 @ronnie-dvo: well I didn't think I was running rebound at either extreme but I went home checked. My idiot self is apparently running rebound at full open (ccw). I'll dial back rebound to 10 clicks from open to see if I can get it to respond how I want.

OTT: I have run it wide open in the past but dropped it down recently to test settings. My initial small bump is good.

I believe my issue is more mid stroke, my idea to the solution is to dial back air pressure to 25-30% sag and increase HSC to keep the fork up in the travel. Is that a logical solution?
  • + 1
 @Shredthenoob: A few of their other comments mention tuning the spring for midstroke, & OTT for small bump compliance. When talking about using compression to tune these things, you need to keep in mind that many small bumps are high shaft speed events, so you're going to affect small bump if you crank it up. This is due to the fact that shaft speeds are often more affected by the "sharpness" of the impact rather than the magnitude, IE, a big roller that compresses your fork too much calls for more LSC, not HSC.

I think your preferences might be outside the kind tuning that you can just rely on sag. tune the spring rate to keep the fork riding in the dynamic ride height you prefer, tune the OTT to make small bump compliance work at that spring rate, & then add damping if you need to. If you still have problems with it eating travel, try bracketing your rebound setting: you may be running it too slow.
  • + 4
 I heard to get a job at DVO you need to huck to flat, eat the worm in the tequila bottle, not be an a*shole or have the name ZEKE?
  • + 1
 lmao only you bro smh.
  • + 2
 @yazzie This is very true. Zeke is changing his name now.
  • + 6
 When can we expect DVO's version of the Float X2/Vivid Air?
  • + 1
 Second this. Would love if DVO did a downhill air shock!
  • + 3
 I just puked in my mouth
  • + 24
 we have a new air shock in the works that'll make the X2 and Vivid great paper weights!
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo:
Ok, that comment can only mean one thing......

You'll be using an Oleo damper

Am I right or am I right ???
  • + 2
 Hi DVO, enjoying a Diamond/Emerald combination right now, thanks. My question is; riding a 29er in greasy SW BC I, like a lot of people, like to run a Continental TrailKing 2.4 - that tire or others of its size will not fit into the arch of a non-boost Diamond fork? Why does this fork have so little tire clearance? I love the fork feel but probably would have chosen to spend my money differently if I knew about the lack of tire clearance!
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 You put a Diamond AND an Emerald on your bike? I hope this doesn't become a new standard...
  • + 1
 @gregcan Are you referring to the 2015 29'' Diamond?
  • + 1
 the boost forks have more clearance than you'll know what to do with!
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 How is the DVO "off the top" different/better than MRP's separately adjustable negative air chamber?...
MRP will say that theirs is better, and DVO will say that theirs is better..... HOW are they DIFFERENT? and WHY is DVO's better Wink ?
Thanks!
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 I get that green is your color, but have you considered another all-black option or is the cost to predicted sales just not there? Call me vain but I wouldn’t get the fork simply because of the green especially when there are killer forks already available from Fox and Rockshox. Business is business - I would think you’re missing out on marketshare?
  • + 1
 That said I JUST saw the brown option so congrats on that! Sorry. So a black option would be possible then?
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 @jeremiahwas: you can do a black fork the only thing green is the knobs and the axle bolt as well as on the decals. The fork itself is primarily black (on the emerald not sure about the others) I have an all black emerald and the green is barely noticeable.
  • + 2
 I mean, you dont skip buying a Fox product because the levers are blue and it might not match, right?
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 @jeremiahwas: We have an all black stealthy version with some small green bits on it. We are also looking at making some black anodized caps and adjusters as well. Cheers!
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 I love my Topaz but it needs new seals. When will you guys have air seals back in stock?
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 Plus another! Can't find any anywhere... are you guys going to ramp up production a bit on service parts?
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 @WaterBear: we have them in stock, give us a call at the shop!
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 @bryson-dvo: Awesome, Thanks man!
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 @WaterBear: no worries!
  • + 1
 I've had my new topaz for a week now and love it but, a couple times it started making a sound like oil and air were mixed so i increased the bladder pressure and it went away but it still comes back from time to time.When the shock is cycled it goes away abit. Is this normal?
  • + 1
 that usually happens when the bladder gets low on pressure. It's good to re-inflate that at least once per month. If it's happening constantly you may need a bleed
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 @bryson-dvo: where's the air in the bladder going?
  • + 1
 DVO suspension is the BEST! It is so tunable, plush, and maintenance free, not to mention the customer service is the best in the biz. One ride on my bike an all my friends have joined the DVO fam. Emerald or Onyx on my next bike? What are some key features of the Onyx? Thanks Bryson, Ronnie and JR
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 Will the air volume adjuster on the Onyx be compatible to retrofit the Diamond?? That would be pretty sweet! Can you elaborate on that feature a little more? Externally adjustable? How long until the DC and SC Onyx is available?

Any chance we might see a properly burly and responsive fatbike fork from you guys? Seriously. Something like a 100-160mm version of the Diamond/Beryl/or SC Onyx. There needs to be a better, stronger and proven alternative to what is currently out there, including the new Manitou. With a lot of clearance.
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 we're working on a top cap that you can thread volume pucks into for the diamond and beryl. The ONYX will be a different system. It's a rod with a piston and you can run pucks on either side of the piston. Below it makes the fork more linear, above makes it more progressive. Really cool system. The fat bike fork is undecided at the moment. We're getting a lot of push for them but at the moment we're so slammed with expanded our product line that it's hard to fit some products into it. It's for sure something we'd like to do though
  • + 1
 Ronnie D is awesome - but why do I still prefer my Marz 350 over my custom-tuned Diamond? Especially in fast, foot deep holes? With the Marz I get less fatigue on my arms, and more precision in my line = faster, smoother.

My Topaz is fantastic. Can you please explain the effect of volume reducers on the negative side vs. the positive side?
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 What are your settings on the Diamond and your weight?

The negative bands affect the amount of force it takes to initiate shock movement. We usually add them if a rider's shock is sagging too much or wallows too much in the beginning to mid of the stroke. Positive spacers make the shock more progressive.

If you add some positive spacers to assist with bottom out, you may find that it gets difficult to achieve the proper sag. That's when the negative bands come in and will help out!
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 @bryson-dvo: Hey Bryson...

210 lbs un-kitted. 116 psi. 13 clicks OTT. 15 clicks (in) rebound, 0 HSC. I actively use the 6-position low speed compression switch - setting 1 or 2 for fast choppy, foot-deep holes. Higher settings when steep or deep transitions (g-outs) expected.

I'm running 2 bands on the negative side on the Topaz, none on positive side. Seems right for me.

Oh - Tracer T275 DVO Edition, XL.

Thanks for responding personally!
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 My Diamonds have started creaking and I have no warranty - anything I can do other than buy new uppers?? Such great forks otherwise
Thanks Sam
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 give us a call at the shop dude, we'll figure a way to take care of you
  • + 5
 Any plan for a 'climb-switch' on the Jade?
  • + 1
 Anyone with a Topaz have a hard time dialing it in and then keeping it dialed? Also, how to get the shock to stick to the ground in a parking lot "lift-drop" test? Mine still bounces a bit in comparison to the Fox DPS EVOL I used to have.

On a Santa Cruz 5010 v2 and currently running with 3POS/1NEG bands. It's pretty darn good but the ride quality seems to vary week-to-week and I need to adjust it constantly to keep it riding nice. This was after a couple months of adjusting pressures and bands to get it riding good.

Also curious about consequences of adding negative bands. I added one to keep it from moving through first part of travel too quickly.
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 The VPP suspension designs on the smaller travel bikes are usually a bit firmer off the top so the bike pedals well. The spacer configuration really depends on the weight of the rider and the suspension design of the bike they're on. On my Hightower, the best set-up I've found is two positive, one negative band. I'm also 170lbs.

If you're really looking for that stuck to the ground feeling, run your bladder pressure at 160PSI and remove the band from the negative chamber. This will make it super plush. It's definitely a DH set-up.

The negative bands affect the amount of force it takes to initiate shock movement. We usually add them if a rider's shock is sagging too much or wallows too much in the beginning to mid of the stroke.

For your personal bike set-up, I would recommend 2 positive, 0-1 negative and mess with your bladder pressure. Set your SAG at 25-30%

Hope this helps!
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 @brysonmartinjr: So awesome! Can I ask what pressures you run in the main/bladder, just out of curiosity?
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 @bigwheels87: It varies, if it's somewhere really rough I run it lower. If it's smooth/flowy singe track I run it higher to get lots of support from the shock. Just depends on what you're riding!
  • + 1
 A lot of enduro forks come with Digressive damping nowadays by preloading the shim stack, even in some rebound circuits. Other known tuning brands tend to replace them with linear damping profiles.

I always imagine that digressive damping work better for chunky natural trails, while linear works better for freeride/bikepark.

Which damping profile would YOU assign to which riding style?
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 We have been using a digressive damping profile on a lot of our damping systems and we feel they work really well! Of course this depends on the intended use of the product and riding style/terrain.
  • + 1
 Is it not possible to have enough range of control over compression (low and high) that we don't have to use tokens? Being able to crack open a shock or fork leg to add a spacer or volume token isn't a feature. It's a nuisance.

Some examples.... Marzocchi Rocco Air, MRP Groove 200, and Fox DHX RC-4 have reservoirs that allow you to add air to affect bottom out and/or curve. The direction in the industry, with rear shocks in particular seem to be moving away from this.
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 All our forks right now don't use tokens or spacers to adjust end stroke. You do that with air pressure and adjust your OTT for the small bump sensitivity. We use a coil negative that can be preloaded to adjust the beginning stroke and you set your air pressure for your bottom out. We're not going away from that
  • + 2
 @bryson-dvo: So does the Topaz have an effective range of control over compression that I shouldn't need volume spacers?

My experience with others (CCDB CS in particular) is that they don't have enough control over compression for me (200 lbs), no mid stroke support, and no ramp up near the end of the stroke. The linear nature of my frame doesn't help ('15 Canfield Balance). Adding as many volume spacers as possible left the linear nature of the shock in place but left a near vertical curve at the end of the stoke. It was so useless that last year during Crankworx I turned the low speed compression all the way up and ran with with the climb switch on!

My interest is in the Topaz obviously. Perhaps I should look for a head to head comparison of the Topaz, RC3 (which I had on my last bike and loved), and CCDB CS.
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 @bryson-dvo: And thanx for your reply! :-)
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 @BDKR: tuning the air volume is totally unrelated to the compression. I think you're confusing the two. They're totally independent of each other and tuned for different purposes. Air Spring rate has more to do with supporting your body weight and load. Compression is controlling the forces dynamically when you compress that spring. I'm running the topaz on my stump jumper which I believe is one of the most linear bikes out. I'm able to make it progressive enough to support big hits from tuning the air spring.

And no problem for answering you, that's why I'm here! Hopefully it helps out
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 @bryson-dvo: Yes! It's a big help!!!!

Thanx again! :-)
  • + 5
 Why should I venture from Fox?
  • + 13
 There's always an upgrade. We like to pride ourselves on three main aspects: quality, performance, and customer service. Those are the three main things we will never cut in order to save money.

We're all riders here at DVO and we know what it's like to be off your bike because your fork takes 6 months to get serviced. Our products can be serviced at home with the guidance of our tech site (tech.dvosuspension.com) and access to spare parts is easy.

Quality is a no brainer for us. The fork does end up costing a bit more at the end because we don't skimp on crappy o-rings, plastic parts or gimmicks. It ends up being cheaper for us when you do it right the first time instead of dealing with warranties/upset customers.

Performance is number one and always will be. Sometimes you do end up taking a hit on weight but we feel it's worth it when the suspension out-performs everything else on the market. We don't buy enduro/dh bikes to race XC. They're high performance machines that need suspension that can keep up and take the abuse.

The relationship of the company to the customer should never end at the cash register, if you go DVO, know we'll always take care of you.
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 I can definitely give a huge props to their ease of service for the user. Very thought through engineered components and systems...
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 @bryson-dvo

I've heard DVO has new products coming down the pipeline? Would love to see some 170mm+ travel 29er forks with offsets around 40mm. There is a small, but emerging market for this type of fork, and besides CSU swapping FOX 36s there is very little on the market now.
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 We will definitely be bringing out some new products that will be right up your alley! Stay tuned!
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 @gonecoastal: Towards the end of this year.
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 Why are there over 30 clicks of HSC but, for my weight you only recommend 2 or 3? I am guessing its because your shims have to be quite stiff in order to accommodate guys who are much more heavy than myself at 190 pounds. But even bigger guys have a recommended 7-9 clicks?
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo @DVOSuspension

I have no complaints at my current setup, but can't help but wonder what a more useable range would do for tuning
  • + 1
 Bryson, you mentioned you run a Topaz on your Hightower. What size? 51mm? 57? Modified 57? I'm not getting the performance I want from the stock Debonair onmy HT and want to get all the travel I can out of an aftermarket shock. Thanks.
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 Yo yo! I run the 200x51 topaz. You can actually get away with running the 200x57 Jade Coil shock IF you have PLUS tires. Just have to compress the shock without the spring to check clearance.
  • + 1
 Hey guys!

Bypass suspension (and more recently, internal bypass) are a big deal in the 4x4 off road world. Have you ever experimented with anything like that for biking, or is it just not possible in the given amount of space?
  • + 1
 It's cool but would be way too heavy for MTB
  • + 1
 I went from Dorado pro's to the Emerald and love the Emerald.
Just annoying the OTT adjustment can only be done when the fork is flat obviously because of the pre-load against the OTT from the air.

Also I noticed that the little plastic washers on the CTA crack when the mounting bolts are tightened up to the recommended torque :oP

Otherwise great fork and I've only started from the the all rounder kind of recommended settings in the manual and tweaked rebound a bit to suit me and looking forward to getting back on them again this weekend Smile
  • + 1
 Went to check my Sag on my Diamond DVO front shock, when I connect the shock pump, I get a leak, all air runs out of the suspension. Its a new syncros digital pump, and works fine on my FOX rear shock. Any ideas, hints, experience, something tempormental about the Diamond?
  • + 1
 What's your opinion on some less conventional designs out there, like Lefty (squared off stanchion seems to make sense, rather than relying on crowns and axles for stiffness) or inverted designs (keeping the seals soaked in oil)? Are there drawbacks to these ideas or anything keeping other brands from integrating them into their own designs?
  • + 1
 Are forks designed with any intention for the lower leg bushings to be replaced during their lifetime, or are they a "last the life of the product" sort of thing. I guess an easier way to ask is; Are lower leg bushings considered a consumable?
  • + 2
 Ronnie (or Bryson) I just talked to you the other day, thanks for always being awesome and there to help, but when is the 200mm dropper (for us lanky bastards) coming?!?!?! ????
  • + 1
 Thanks buddy and its great to chat with you too! We are headed to Asia tonight and will see about getting a long 200mm dropper in the works, we will keep ya posted on when it will be ready! Cheers buddy.
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 @DVOSuspension: awesome. I can't Wait! Let me know if you need testers. I know most people aren't that lanky! ????????
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 Out of curiosity, is it possible to shorten or modify a 27.5 Diamond to 100mm of travel? Any chance in hell you are going to produce a 26" single crown fork? Curiosity stemming from the development of some of the well made truly capable short travel 24" & 26" kids bikes like the Transition Ripcord, Rocky Mountain Reaper, and others from Spawn Cycles, Commencal, Kona etc. They all suffer greatly in the fork department. Something like the Beryl or Sapphire that could accommodate the abilities of those bikes would be KILLER.
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 @Metacomet We don not have any plans of releasing a 26'' or 24'' fork. We can reduce the travel to 100mm of travel to accommodate a 26'' bike. We have quite a few kids on some custom tuned DVO forks that are killing it on the trails and standing on a lot of podiums.

Ronnie
  • + 1
 I have a Topaz shock, in 200x57mm on an Ibis HD3. I would love to know any setup advice for this bike. I've seen a lot of guys online putting a lot of spacers on the positive side to try and get more bottom out resistance, and keep from using up all the travel, but not having that much luck. Thanks!
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 @canadianjerkey How much do you weigh?
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 those bikes are typically pretty linear in design with a kick of progression at the end. Don't be afraid to keep putting spacers in the positive side until you reach your desired end stroke progression. JP actually has the same bike, you can shoot him an email and talk to him about set up!

johnp@dvosuspension.com
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 @ronnie-dvo: I'm about 180 all geared up.
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 Do you believe that there will be a resurgence of coil sprung suspension in the near future? Do you see the characteristics of a coil more beneficial than the weight savings of air springs?
  • + 1
 I have two(!) Diamonds, and love them. Sweet, sweet forks for sure. I've been thinking about getting a Sapphire at 120mm for my XC hardtail. Besides being a bit more flexy than the Diamond, what differences can I expect with the damper and air spring on the Sapphire? I think I read that the Sapphire uses an open cartridge damper... does that mean the damper oil mixes with the lower oil?
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 Performance wise it's very very close. The sapphire chassis is not close to the stiffness of the diamond but by far the stiffest 32mm stanchion fork on the market. It's a lot lighter than the diamond too. The diamond a burly, Enduro race fork. The sapphire uses the stanchion tube as the air chamber. There's a cap on the bottom of the stanchion that keeps it separated from the lower oil. Don't want that mixing and getting contaminated
  • + 2
 Your forks look amazing, but for some, they're beyond the budget. Is there a lesser fork on the market you'd recommend while someone saves & dreams & hopes to get one of yours?
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 They have a lower cost Diamond, the Beryl, on the way. Same basic fork but not as many external adjustments.
www.pinkbike.com/news/dvos-new-onyx-and-beryl-forks-taipei-cycle-show.html
  • + 1
 When will the onyx be released in th U.K. And what will be the approx uk retail price?
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 @JesseE The Beryl is coming very soon. It is still packed with very high end features and all of our quality parts.
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 @ronnie-dvo: My Nana Beryl would be proud! thanks for the response, it'd definitely be a contender.
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 @JesseE: You will love it just as much as you love your Nana.
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 Have you had any issues with stanchions/steerers creaking in your forks? I have a pike, and this is happening. Has happened to almost every pike I have seen, I also have a friend with a set of fox 34 factory with this issue. It drives me crazy, and one friend had it so badly that he could actually remove the steerer from the fork.
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 We have had a small amount of forks that creaked and we do have a new process that completely eliminates the dreaded creak!
  • + 1
 Do you think it's possible to build air shocks that accommodate for every different riders needs? Is it possible to have shock versatile for the lightest rider and still handle the bigger riders or do you have to aim for the average rider and hope for the best?
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 we build all our products to work well for every weight/riding situation. There will always be exceptions but to only tune our production products to fit one type of person in a specific (small) range is pretty lame.

Our air shocks allow you to tune both the positive and negative chambers. That really does give you the ability to tune the shock to fit your weight and bike. It may take some time to tinker with the adjustments and the tunes to find what works best for you but it's always good fun learning!

The OTT feature on our forks allow you to adjust the preload on the negative spring. That gives you full control of the beginning stroke then you set your air pressure for bottom out. We made that adjustment so the fork could work for an extremely wide range of riders. Cedric Gracia is running the same fork that one of our female riders that's 90lbs uses. That's not an exaggeration either.
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 I´m a proud owner of both jade shock and emerald fork, recently I wanted to upgrade to a 27.5 frame... why do I need to change the crown assembly for that on my emerald 26? is there really a change on crown assembly?
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 The offset and ride height is different on the 27.5 vs. the 26. The CTA will also make contact with the crown set if it's not the proper crown set for the wheel size.
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 @bryson-dvo: thank you very much, I think I´ll stick a couple more months with the 26" frame until I can make the swap as intended
  • + 1
 tbh I don't know a ton about your product line, but do you offer a lighter spring option? Such as Fox's, Nukeproof, and Canecreek's light steel spring?
I think I saw someone post something above as well, but I'm also curious about linear vs. progressive spring trends. It seems like adding tokens/volume spacers, or upping negative air chamber pressure ratios to positive significantly boosts air suspension performance (to a point), but coil shocks that are super linear through their travel perform even better?
  • + 1
 we're currently working on light coil spring options! We have some previous experience with producing forks with progressive coils in the past. It was actually a nightmare to manage the inventory with the amount of springs needed to offer a range that will meet customers demands.
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 If you could do one thing to create better performing suspension regardless of cost or a basis of reality, what would it be?
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 Great question! Honestly, due to our unique business strategy we are making products that aren't so much cost driven but more performance driven. That's why there is a bit of weight increase when compared to the Fox and RS because we tend to build our products more robust increasing long term reliability & durability. I guess the only item that really make a difference is using some very expensive suspension fluid!
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 Hi there, I am interested in getting a Diamond boost + Jade in the back for Pole Evolink 150. I am after a combo that works well and it is easy to service.
Could you give me more information on how to maintain your products in perfect condition and some tips on setting it up?

Cheers
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 Full service guides on their website. They show you how to fully strip and rebuild.
  • + 4
 Hey dude! Stoked that you're interested in the products. Our engineering team do there best to make the products easily serviceable without the need of any special tools. You can visit our tech website that'll show you everything you would want to know about service, set up, and tuning. If there's something you need that's not on there, call us up or send us an email and we will take care of you! tech.dvosuspension.com
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 @Bogomilanev tech.dvosuspension.com

We have all kinds of information on our site to assist with setup and service for our product. I am also available through email Ronnied@dvosuspension.com if you require any help.
  • + 1
 I've been using a Diamond since earlier this year and love it. Are the internals of the new Diamond upgraded from the original, and if so are they backward compatible to the original Diamond?
  • + 1
 the Boost uses a different air system in the leg (no cartridge). No, they are not compatible nor interchangeable. See this video to see the new air system. Watch the video on the old fork travel change to see the difference.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl8UoxpEzfk
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 Internally, the new diamond is pretty much the same set up. The only difference is the boost version goes to 170 on the 27.5 and 160 on the 29er. The air cartridges are backwards compatible but the non boost SHOULD NOT go to the max travels of the boost fork. There's not enough bushing overlap for it.
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 @CTYankee: the boost diamond is an air cartridge. The Sapphire is the fork with the different air system.
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 Why no travel adjust? I love the dual air Lyrik and my 36 talas but would rather have a Diamond Dual air.
  • + 3
 We don't offer any externally adjustable travel adjust models because it adds an extra degree of complexity to the system that ultimately fails and renders the rider on the angry side of the trail! Also, bike designs are really good these days and the necessity to adjust the travel on the fly isn't as important as it was was a few years ago. But, we always keep an open mind to suspension design and if we can deliver one with 100% reliability we certainly would consider offering one.
  • + 1
 I have a Santa Cruz Hightower and live in Lake Tahoe (Trukcee). I am having a hard time finding a rear shock that can support my weight, about 255lbs suited up. What do you recommend?
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 we actually did a lot of the development of the topaz on the Hightower. The topaz feels better on that bike than any other shock. I ran our coil shock on that bike too and it was so awesome. Either way you'll be stoked on it
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 @bryson-dvo: Does this factor in my weight too? I would prefer air over coil (the topaz) if you think that I wouldn't lose too much small bump compliance? What air pressure do you think my weight would take to get the proper sag and lastly what is the max air pressure for the topaz?
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 We have many riders using the topaz on the Hightower that weigh the same as you. They love it. I promise you won't have any issues with loosing small bump sensitivity. If anything you'll have too much. The max pressure is 300psi @thunderpuppies:
  • + 1
 When can I get an integrated fender that protrudes Infront of the fork arch on my diamon. I hate getting splatter in my face. It makes it hard to look at my nice green diamond! @dvosuspension
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 Any plans of making a high end coil DH fork? It would be nice to match with my Jade in the back.
  • + 0
 Man you guys are Machines! Huge thanks for putting this on and answering So Many questions! You even take the trolls and turn them on their heads with a honest, positive, constructive or funny reply.

What's your experience with the WPL oils and their absolute grease? I've been using them in my Diamond and really enjoying them for the performance feel and how much nicer they are to work with and handle. They make a 7wt oil, and you spec a 7.5 in the Diamond. Any considerations to be made in this regard or with their products in general, or do you fully recommend them?
Any plans on making service tools like sockets, seal presses, shaft clamps, damper bleed tool, etc?
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 No prob, it's great interacting with everyone. Trying to find unanswered questions is tough, getting them though! I haven't personally used any of the wpl stuff. Probably a question better aimed at ronnie! I do like that you're messing around with different weight oils though, I personally run a 10 wt in my diamond and love it. It's definitely a firm set up but great for mobbin! We're definitely working on many different tools and suspension accessories, keep a look out! Cheers dude
  • + 1
 If a standard old fashioned fixed seat post is a 1 and a Reverb is a 10, how hard is a Garnet to work on?

I am very interested in the Garnet, but the lack of any documentation on service is why I have not bought one.
  • + 1
 The Garnet is really easy to work on and you don't need any special tools, just some soft jaws to clamp the post and inner rod and you're good to go. I'd give it a 3 for repair or ease of maintenance.
  • + 1
 The technical documentation is currently being populated on our tech site. There's a full bleed/fluid change guide up there now. go to tech.dvosuspension.com and check it out. The Garnet is extremely easy to work on, easier than the Reverb and you'll have to do it a lot less too!
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: Thanks, found it. I had been checking here:
tech.dvosuspension.com/service-guides
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 @DVOSuspension: Thanks, but what is the bushing install tool? I have never seen that and don't see how to do the job without one.
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 @CTYankee: you can do it with a crescent wrench or open ended wrench if you're careful
  • + 2
 Any plans to add volume spacers or something like that to the diamond?

When will you start releasing reduced offset forks to the masses?
  • + 2
 The Diamond will get a top cap upgrade so you can run volume spacers in the near future. Different offset crowns are also coming soon
  • + 2
 @bryson-dvo: Thanks alot! You just sold one Diamond with this answer!

Just release it. I'll buy it the next day!

Cheers
  • + 1
 Right on dude! @RNeves:
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 @bryson-dvo: This dude knows what's up. I am have been debating getting the Diamonds (have a set on at the moment from NSDYNAMICS from Brisbane - those guys rock!) and this as also put me over the edge. Boost Diamonds FTW!
  • + 1
 How much better can suspension get in the next 10 years? Compared to 10 years ago we are already on the moon, how much further do you guys thin we can go and in which direction do you see that progress going?
  • + 2
 Suspension is damn good right now, best as it has ever been and you can't go wrong with any of the top tier suspension suppliers. What has been lacking is suspension that is 100% designed for each suspension kinematic. Currently, that would probably be the missing link.
  • + 1
 @DVOSuspension: With 100% for each suspension cinematic you mean suspension tailor made for each frame individually?
  • + 1
 @winko: yes exactly. Frame manufactures co-developing with suspension companies is the best way to do it!
  • + 4
 Why green? Do you think you may sell more if you avoided colour branding ?
  • + 7
 We have two other color options in our forks. You don't have to get green
  • + 1
 Will DVO be coming out with any kind of other components/wheelsets in the near future? The introduction of the dropper made me wonder if any other types of parts will be eventually coming from the company. Thanks!
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 Honestly, we like to focus on parts that are suspension related and a dropper post uses similar mechanical elements that suspension forks use. There are a lot of wheel companies, handle bar makers, etc and so we aren't really interested in making anything else unless we can really improve upon the current design. Plus, it takes our focus away from doing what we know best!
  • + 1
 @DVOSuspension: Sounds rad, keep it up! I don't know that your colors are for me, but I like what your company is doing by setting itself apart from the pack with lots of adjust-ability within the suspension products and unique colors. Keep shreddin'
  • + 3
 What's your take on reduced offsets for the newer breed of bikes? Any plans on having additional offsets available?
  • + 5
 absolutely, especially for the 29er's.
  • + 2
 @bryson-dvo: so in the future, we will be able to purchase a 29 diamond with 46mm offset?
  • + 3
 @DVOSuspension: Right on! I've been wanting a Diamond for my Jeffsy. Thanks.

@DVOSuspension @ronnie-dvo @bryson-dvo Thanks for taking the time today to answer all these questions, suspension advice, comments, etc.. Great employees - customer service - and company.
  • + 2
 I sell a lot's of DVO here in my shop and i have to give you guys a big 5 stars but I'm still waiting for you guys to Build My Fat Bike Fork.
  • + 1
 Thanks buddy and we may have to make you a custom fat bike fork!
  • + 1
 Hey Bryson, I have a 29" Diamond reduced down to 140MM and it seems to stick slightly right at the sag point... once the shock starts moving it is like butter, but that slight stick is noticeable. Is this normal?
  • + 1
 Try adding some oil inside the seal, it might jus need a bit of love
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo

If the soon to be released Onyx dual crown fork has been dubbed by you guys as a dual crown Diamond, why isn't there a 29er compatible option?

Who distributes DVO in Canada?
  • + 2
 We're still undecided on the 29 DH. The onyx is an entirely new fork from the ground up that shares many of the same features and damper technology as the diamond. Suspension Werx and S4 in Canada
  • + 0
 Why only a tapered steerer on the Emerald? Surely it wouldn't be too hard to make a straight 1 1/8" option available to take advantage of angle sets compatibility with older frames....not to mention the other DH fork companies are happily still getting on with straight steerers. I'd run an Emerald if I could....but I can't.
  • + 4
 We all know you wouldn't even if you could.
  • + 3
 The tapered steerer is a lot stronger. We wanted the emerald to be a burly fork that'll last you a long time. The new ONYX fork will have a straight steerer though
  • + 1
 Any plans in the future for a smaller size jade? Would love to run one on my knolly endorphin but it's a 190x50 and the smallest you guys have now is 200x57.

Thanks!
  • + 1
 I would like to more about how the OTT works. How is it different for RS Mission Control that is supposed to keep the rider higher in the travel?
  • + 1
 Prior to the introduction of the OTT system air springs have basically gone unchanged since their introduction decades ago. Using air volume spacers work well but they only shift the air spring curve down and its a one size fits all kinda design. The OTT actually works or affects the first part of the travel and then disengages after the fork compresses around 30mm. So, a heavy rider who runs higher air pressure won't lack small bump sensitivity and comfort from a high air pressure. Conversely, a light rider will use less or no OTT and won't have issues of sitting too far into the travel with greater mid stroke support and overall suspension feel.
  • + 2
 Any plans on bringing electronics as part of your suspension products(ref Fox LiveValve, Lapierre e:i)?
  • + 3
 We are definitely aware of the possible benefits of using electronics to enhance suspension performance but its still in its infancy and we would like to keep testing and wait for more advanced and affordable electrical components to enter the bicycle suspension business. The main idea is to deliver value to the customer and not complexity and cost, until then we will be waiting and testing!
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: What axle will the Onyx SC use? I know it is a long shot, but I am hoping it can use the traditional 20 x 110 non boost.
  • + 2
 What do you think sets you apart from brands like SRAM and FOX? How do your methods differ from those of bigger brands?
  • + 3
 Great question and we feel that if someone is looking to upgrade their suspension over their FOX or RS systems, DVO is it! Although both FOX and RS make great stuff, DVO is a company that responds to our customers needs and places customer service first and foremost while making what we feel is better performing products with greater durability and reliability. DVO isn't a mass produced product that can be found on every bike out there, we are more exclusive and unique. Being smaller also allows us to respond to changes in market demands and or technical issues and we don't need to follow a specific time constraint when bringing out new products that aren't fully tested and ready for production. Cheers for a great question!
  • + 1
 It's great seeing you guys working with Canfield Brothers, if you could only ride one, which would it be Jedi, Balance or Toir?
  • + 1
 We have all three and recommend getting all three!
  • + 1
 @DVOSuspension: That's the correct answer! I have the Balance and Jedi. The new carbon Toir will probably be my next purchase in a year or two.
  • + 1
 What is the overall length and insertion depth of the Garnet 125 internal? the product page says 385mm length but the fitmet PDF on your site says 465mm total length? Thanks!
  • + 1
 Go off of the PDF on the tech website. That's our latest one, we did make a change and the one on the site may be outdated. Thanks for letting me know!
  • + 1
 Dvo, if you make a female specific fork call it the ruby being ruby is a girls name, paint the lowers red, root beer stancions and lilac crown
  • + 1
 Does your team do much as far as DAQ for the environment your suspension products see? Can you share much about the load/excitation environment you typically design to?
  • + 2
 What is a Garnet rebuild like: cost of parts needed, special tools needed, how long should it take, how hard is it?
  • + 1
 As long as you have a basic understanding of general mechanics, rebuilding the Garnet is a breeze. You'll need some soft jaws and or the ability to securely clamp the post and inner shaft without damage and you're good to go. We will have the part list on-line soon but its very inexpensive and consists of a few o-rings, a glide ring & some other small parts.
  • + 2
 When is Bryson Martin Jr. going to do a youtube rap video with some fresh bomber girls?
I would like / sub / comment.
  • + 5
 working on it now, I rented a lambo and got a spray tan. Gonna be hot!
  • + 3
 Any plans for a dh air shock?
  • + 6
 Next year! All kinds of good stuff in the works!
  • + 3
 My Jedi rides amazing with the Jade but would love to try a DVO DH air shock on it someday.
  • + 2
 Is DVO considering making a 29er dual crown fork to be run with some of the 29er downhill bikes we are seeing?
  • + 2
 Any plans for a 4-way adjustable shock yet?




Also, I think I still owe you guys like $60. Can I mail you my credit card?
  • + 4
 three ways, four ways, five ways.... it's all good fun.... yeah we're working on one now, most likely next year. Just buy us tacos, we'll call it even!
  • + 2
 @bryson-dvo: i friggin love tacos
  • + 3
 any plans for an inverted all mountain fork?
  • + 3
 @bryson-dvo: You've been saying this for years WHHHHEEENNNNNNN
  • + 2
 I'm the equivalent of two Jeff Kendall Weeds.

Any hints or sneaky tips to get my Diamond performing at their best?

Ta
  • + 1
 Equivalent to two Jeff K-W's in skills? Well done. In size? Keen to hear how they respond here.
  • + 1
 @OriginalDonk: I wish it was skills......????
  • + 1
 Can you put the 170 internals of the new Boost Diamonds into the older non boost versions or will the extra 10 mm push the stanchions past the bushings?
  • + 1
 you can't, there's not enough bushing overlap for it.
  • + 2
 What are you guys cooking up for the future? Anything you can let us know without telling to much?
  • + 2
 Ronnie, will you please do one of your awesome service videos for the DVO Diamond!
  • + 3
 Head over to tech.dvosuspension.com and you can watch Ronnie work his magic all day!
  • + 1
 Who would win if you gents and the guys at Fox got in a full on, drag out, Anchorman-style brawl? Who would initiate the whole debacle?
  • + 2
 lol, great question and of course we would initiate it and finish it by lighting Ronnie on fire and launching him from a cannon right into their head office.
  • + 1
 @DVOSuspension: awesome. Looking forward to the DVO takes over Fox video! lol Beer
  • + 1
 When I compress my DVO jade should it sound like the fluid has foam in it? I haven't ridden very much since my last warranty service.
  • + 1
 Sounds like it had a bad bleed or needs one. Also, make sure the bladder pressure is correct
  • + 1
 Hi there! Could you tell me, please, why only Avalanche and MRP use speed sensitive dampers? It is an idea thta makes a lot of sense, yet no one uses it?Thanks and cheers!
  • + 2
 What do you think of Fox and Rock Shox Thru shaft technology for some Trek bikes?
  • + 1
 It's a gimmicks for bulk bike brands to get the sensitivity a properly shimmed shock can provide. That's my guess...
  • + 1
 Thru-shafts have been around for years and we haven't had a chance to test it yet! We know the suspension guys at Trek and they know their stuff and they're a bunch of great guys.
  • + 3
 Oh I've got one. Are you hiring?
  • + 3
 Yes we are!
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo , is the website email system working? I sent an email a while ago regarding info about my Emerald but never got a response.
  • + 1
 shoot me an email directly, we get a lot of them and unfortunately some of them get lost. brysonjr@dvosuspension.com
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: Thank you, really appreciated
  • + 1
 With the Transition Sentinel and Whyte S150, we're seeing a movement towards reduced-offset forks. How is DVO responding to this trend? Any thoughts or feedback?
  • + 2
 If the Onyx is branded as a dual crown article; why no 29er option?
  • + 2
 Diamond***
  • + 1
 @gonecoastal: Are you asking for a 29er Diamond? I'm confused
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: Not really. After a longer travel 29er option than the Diamond Boost. Onyx is 275+ compatible I've heard, would like to see that include 29ers. An 170-180mm Onyx dual crown fork to fit 29ers would be great.
  • + 2
 Why is the Diamond so sweet?
  • + 5
 because it's made with love
  • + 1
 what the best number to reach you guys? I have been trying to get through...but its been busy for 2 days?
  • + 1
 Our office number is 661 295 9500
  • + 1
 Do you guys do anything different than other companies to prevent CSU creaking in your single crown forks?
  • + 1
 Yes we do! We have just instituted a new system that eliminates the creaking problem. We have had some creaking CSU's in the past but after a lot of testing and actual use in the marketplace we are pretty solid on this new system.
  • + 2
 Have we not already done this ??????
  • + 2
 Are we not men? we are DVO.
  • + 1
 @watchtower: Booji Boy would be proud
  • + 2
 What's the favorite beer around the office?
  • + 1
 I'm still riding a 26" freeride bike with 180mm of travel, is the 26" fork market dead?
  • + 1
 Fox's makes the 36 in 26" with 180mm travel and 20mm axle
  • + 2
 are we going to see metric shocks on sale any time soon?
  • + 6
 we have em!
  • + 1
 Will the bolt on fender for the Diamond fit the hole pattern in an mrp stage?
  • + 2
 What is the biggest flaw in general of mountain bike suspension.
  • + 19
 people being weight weenies and compromising performance for grams!
  • + 1
 When are you guys coming out with an in-line shock? My 29er feels isolated from my other bikes.
  • + 2
 very soon! Testing prototypes now
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: Happy to be a tester. Smile
  • + 1
 Who are you marketing too? More World Cup race scene or more of an average consumer?
  • + 4
 As much as we'd like to be World Cup racers it's just not realistic to only cater to that crowd. WC downhiller's are running product so far from stock it's more of an image thing. If I ran minaar's bike set up I wouldn't be able to handle it. We make products for the people buying and riding them. We want a real, genuine connection with our customers.
  • + 1
 What is the biggest misconception about bicycle suspension more so DVO suspension?
  • + 2
 Great question! Suspension is the most important and sophisticated part of the bike. People get to caught up on weight and fancy suspension frame designs when they should focus on performance and durability. If you have a properly set-up suspension system (front and rear) your bike will perform exceptionally well. That's why we build our stuff on the more robust side of the scale and the rider can get years of use from our products with minimal maintenance costs.
  • + 2
 @DVOSuspension: Very true. My brother-in-law knows a former motocross world champion who told him to put his money into suspension. If you get that right you are most of the way there. The perfect tires or a perfect engine won't substitute for bad suspension.
  • + 1
 @CTYankee: Exactly, most of us are from the motocross wide side of suspension and thats what we all learned too!
  • + 1
 any advice on topaz settings ( volume spacers and so on ) on a SC6c? awesome stuff BTW
  • + 1
 Depends on your weight but I am 180lbs and went 2 on the negative and 1 on the positive. Feels great climbing and rad descending (note - I care more about descending)
  • + 1
 @btablak: thanks dude im 166Lbs, im trying 2 on positive one negative but feels ..." ok" nothing super different from not having any. will try your setup the weekend! thanks for the reply!
  • + 2
 I personally haven't ridden that bike but spend some time trying different spacer configurations. It really does make a huge difference. Also the bladder pressure can change a lot. Don't be afraid to ticker with settings but make small adjustments so you can easily go back to what you had if it doesn't work out
  • + 1
 I've heard "later this year" will be the Onyx SC release date... Any further elaboration???
  • + 1
 The adjustments will be very similar to the ONYX DC. Pinkbike did a sneak peak of it that you can check out. I don't have an exact ETA on the release but we're testing prototypes now and fine tuning them.
  • + 1
 Do you assess an additional "commonwealth" charge to those who refer to their "forks" plural?
  • + 0
 The Emrald is more expensive than the Boxxer and Fox 40. Why would I want to buy a DVO dh fork rather than a cheaper, more race/competition proven fork?
  • + 4
 Because you will get much better customer service going with DVO
  • - 15
flag Eastern-States-Cup Plus (Jul 17, 2017 at 14:29) (Below Threshold)
 We love fox!
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 @Eastern-States-Cup: hmmm sponsor dollars talking???
  • + 2
 Hey if you're ever around Oregon hit me up. I'll let you take my bike for a spin and we'll set it up for you. You'll see for yourself why you want a DVO.
  • + 5
 @Eastern-States-Cup: FUX SUX if you don't believe me try dealing with their customer service or getting Service Parts to try to repair an item yourself.
  • + 1
 Are you guys ever going to develop a +180mm single crown front fork that works with the emerging mini-dh bikes?
  • + 3
 Ssshhhhh........ Just wait....
  • + 1
 @eicca: no Ssshhhhh-ing me! I demand answers!!!
  • + 2
 What are your thoughts on hiring a graduating Georgia Tech ME?
  • + 3
 send over an application!
  • + 1
 how has FEA/CFD simulation and rapid prototyping impacted suspension design in recent times?
  • + 1
 it drastically reduced the amount of time that it takes to bring a fork to market. If we can do a lot of the basic fatigue testing, or find potential weak points in the design before we get prototypes it saves us months if not years. The ability to 3D print pistons and different components allows us to design something and test it the next day. Pretty damn cool!
  • + 1
 It saves to much time and money its amazing! Back in the day at Marzocchi we didn't use a lot of advanced prototypes so once the mold was done you had to go with it even if the design wasn't perfect.
  • + 1
 @DVOSuspension: I heard the VitalMTB podcast bryson did and the history was pretty amazing. A follow up question though, how much stress do you put 3D printed components through? just a couple of days of testing or longer periods of time?
  • + 1
 What Kitchen is meaning to ask is...If you were to start all over, would you base your suspension brand on a color
  • + 4
 Yes we would, color is an important part of branding. Generally speaking, Honda is red, Yamaha is blue, Suzuki is yellow, Kawasaki is green, KTM is orange, Ferrari is red, etc.
  • + 1
 Would you ever consider taking a university student for a year in industry as an intern?
  • + 1
 Will you guys make a dirt-jump specific fork? Or does the diamond already fit that purpose?
  • + 1
 the diamond works great!
  • + 1
 When are we going to see your products on a World Cup factory DH team?
  • + 7
 Very soon!
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo:
Isak Leivsson
  • - 1
 Any plans for an affordable supension line?

Use the brand as a background and develop a sub brand to offer to bike companies and hard up customers (me).
  • + 2
 hummmm
  • + 1
 Why is Tom Rogers hidden away in the back? We need more Tom Rogers!
  • + 1
 Coil shock with a climb switch and metric, when is it happening?
  • + 1
 in the works!
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: whatchhyyyuuu mmmeeeeeeeaaannnnnn

any guess to when?
  • + 0
 When there's the two of you and only one moped, who gets to sit on the foot rest??
  • + 7
 you stand up in the center and hold the groceries. we have that down
  • + 1
 any plans for a DJ,slope 4X fork in the future?
  • + 3
 The Diamond or Beryl reduced down!
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: Can they be reduced past the spec'd travel?
  • + 3
 @browntown40: they can but you loose the OTT adjustability. That's why we don't recommend it for trail bikes. It works when you need something really firm and small bump sensitivity isn't that necessary
  • + 1
 Where is my metric Topaz?!!!
  • + 5
 We have em' now!
  • + 1
 Will you give me diamonds and let me continue to see other girls.
  • + 2
 Girls do love green diamonds! Can't resist it!
  • + 1
 will dvo plan on making a single Crown inverted Fork 180mm travel??
  • + 1
 How many genders are there?
  • + 1
 now that is a tough question
  • + 2
 @LiamDonohue414 Fewer than the number of houses Bernie Sanders owns...
  • + 1
 Why does no one make a progressive linear fork?
  • + 1
 we do! With our OTT system, you fine tune how the fork feels off the top and set your air pressure for bottom out. With that set up, you can make the fork feel progressive or linear. It's totally up to your preference!
  • + 1
 USD Single Crown, is one coming?
  • + 4
 You know we're suckers for upside down suspension!
  • + 1
 Which direction do you turn the HSC knob to increase damping? K thx.
  • + 1
 clockwise! The low speed knob is counter clockwise. The emerald and jade is clockwise on both
  • + 1
 On a Diamond, by the way. The set-up video only says there are so many clicks of adjustment. Is it clockwise to decrease damping like with the LSC knob?
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: why do other companies seem to hate giving us a HSC adjustment? Its like they are dumbing everything down to the average median.
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: Thanks man. FYI, that is not obvious in any of the literature or set-up videos that I could find.
  • + 1
 @unitron: thanks for the feedback, we'll work on making that more pronounced in our documentation!
  • + 1
 @Boardlife69: That's exactly what they're doing. The big guys have to make so many different products so many different types of riders, it's easier and more cost effective to make basic products. DVO is for the riders that want more than basic.
  • + 1
 PBR, Ranier, Or Coors Light?
  • + 1
 Will you guys ever make a downhill specific air shock?
  • + 3
 coming soon
  • + 1
 What shock pump do you recommend?
  • + 1
 lezyne makes a killer digital floor pump. That's what we use at the shop
  • + 1
 I'm gonna get Beryl'd when that wave rolls in late Summer
  • + 2
 right on bro!
  • + 1
 So questions answered now won't be answered?
  • + 4
 Ask this question tomorrow morning to receive an answer.
  • + 3
 Trying my best dude! There's a lot of em'
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: Ha. Awesome.
  • + 1
 What is the hardest part of product development?
  • + 14
 Dealing with the comment section in the reviews on pink bike.
  • + 7
 @properp: hahaha that was comedy
  • + 5
 It's actually more fun than anything. When you have a suspension set up that allows you to completely forget about your bike and enjoy the pure fun of riding then you have a dialed set up. When your bike is always doing exactly what you want with no adverse feedback, it's magic. Getting to that point isn't easy but it's good fun getting there.

We also try to make sure that we have enough range in our products to allow the suspension to suite any bike and rider. That is extremely difficult. Suspension is not a one size/set up fits all, but we do our best to accommodate our products for the majority.
  • + 1
 Why does my Topaz constantly lose air?
  • + 1
 sounds like a seal is bad or something is up with it. Either way we'll take care of you dude. Shoot us an email and it'll get it fixed! ronnied@dvosuspension.com or brysonjr@dvosuspension.com
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: Right on. It's done it Ever since I got it . I know Ronnie will fix it up nice... He Hooke my Diamond up and it's amazing .
  • + 1
 When will the Saphire be available?
  • + 2
 it's available now!
  • + 0
 Do you have the intention to get into the dirt-jump/slopestyle industry for 26" wheels in the near future?
  • + 2
 our current Diamond reduced down works well. That's what darren berrecloth is running and loves it
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: I understand, but can one actually order a Diamond for 26" ? I'm asking this because I see that Diamond forks are for 29 and 27.5 in on your website, and still benefiting from all the features the 29 and 27.5 models do ?
  • + 1
 Any plans for a lower spec line? To get into the majority market?
  • + 2
 We're coming out with the Beryl which is very similar to the Diamond chassis/travel wise. It's at a lower price point
  • + 1
 Why only 35mm stanctions? Why not 37 or 38?
  • + 1
 Not a common manufactured size, they don't Mill every single part... If there was a market for $2500 fork, I'm sure they would make one.... And jumping up is size has diminishing returns
  • + 1
 Choosing the right stanchion tubes size has a lot of variables to it (weight, strength, availability, bushing sizes, seal sizes, etc) and its possible to have a 37mm or 37.5mm but those aren't common dimensions so seals and bushings would need to be all custom made. We aren't tied to any specific size, we just want to use the most ideal size for the application at hand! Great question! Cheers.
  • + 1
 Why DVO over Fox and Rockshox?
  • + 2
 There's always an upgrade. We like to pride ourselves on three main aspects: quality, performance, and customer service. Those are the three main things we will never cut in order to save money.

We're all riders here at DVO and we know what it's like to be off your bike because your fork takes 6 months to get serviced. Our products can be serviced at home with the guidance of our tech site (tech.dvosuspension.com) and access to spare parts is easy.

Quality is a no brainer for us. The fork does end up costing a bit more at the end because we don't skimp on crappy o-rings, plastic parts or gimmicks. It ends up being cheaper for us when you do it right the first time instead of dealing with warranties/upset customers.

Performance is number one and always will be. Sometimes you do end up taking a hit on weight but we feel it's worth it when the suspension out-performs everything else on the market. We don't buy enduro/dh bikes to race XC. They're high performance machines that need suspension that can keep up and take the abuse.

The relationship of the company to the customer should never end at the cash register, if you go DVO, know we'll always take care of you.
  • + 1
 @bryson-dvo: Tech site is cool! To be honest I spent hours in order to find manuals or some good video about servicing my fork.
  • + 1
 Ben, to be honest I've got DVO squishy bits and have talked to these guys on the phone a ton. Besides quality product they're just mega helpful.
  • - 3
 Howcome everything ive rode with a dvo.. feel super harsh and sucky on small bump compliance and on big hits it blows through the travel.. my charger damper in my old hybrid fork.. i set my psi and it just feels great
  • + 8
 Because you dont know what you are doing
  • + 4
 something's definitely wrong with the set up. Please send me an email and we'll make sure your fork is absolute butter!

brysonjr@dvosuspension.com
  • + 1
 Diamonds are awesome
  • + 3
 I agree!
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