e*thirteen Prototype SRS+ 32 chain guide - Sea Otter Day 4

 Exactly.

 I don't know how that would happen unless you crash on your drive side. If so, clean your bike after the ride.

 When it's TRULY muddy that shiz goes everywhere. It flies off your legs, the cranks wipe it off, pedals scoop it up, drag a foot on a slippery corner and the goo gets wiped off on your crank, chainstay, guide, etc, etc! Watch some of the DH pics from the muddy WC races and checkout Gee's or Sam's(seemingly the two most photograghed riders) bikes, see where all that crap builds up. I bet even a well-mudproofed bike packs on 5-6 pounds of mud by the time it hits the finish.

 Watch videos from the 2010 WC race in Champery, this thing would be caked before half a run could be completed.

 This would be cool if the 7speed setup became widely used and affordable. I appreciate more ground clearance.

 Riding through the winter in the north of Enland gives me a pretty good idea about this sort of thing. I've got one of the 36 tooth ones and it doesn't really get any more clogged up than a normal bash as the honeycomb is on the outside where it makes very little difference. Bear in mind as well that these E-13 bash guards are light for how strong they are, which is all down to the honeycomb. They take way bigger impacts than a solid Gammut ring which is around abouts the same weight.......

 Im with you. Spend less time trying to find the right gear, would love to see a 7spd cassette "kit" developed. A box of gears and spacers so you can tune your gearing to what you need.
You could probably get away with 4.... a start gear for starts/crashes and any flat/uphill sections, 2 for intermediate sections, and your high speed gear. Not like we have to keep cadence on a track, and not too worried about optimum heart rates!

 i would prefer a thru-hole honeycomb , just like tioga spider saddle.. its a lot easier to clean , and dirt will less stuck there

 The original prototype Turbocharger had some complete cutout parts...5 minutes of testing proved that it wasn't the greatest idea. The added rigidity from the 1-2mm of material between the pockets is essential to the structure. Realistically, the amount of mud that gathers there and actually stays is extremely minimal given how much mud is likely on your rig. The 32T specific guide is a nice option for people with super low slung frames (DH race, Trail, etc) who just want to maximize ground clearance.

 Hmmmm, here is a thought. If you are concerned with mud gettng caked in the "honeycombs," you might want to consider NOT riding in mud. Duh. For people like me, who rarely have to ride in MUD, this product would be extremely dialed. However, for those of you in Canada or the UK may want to consider annother option since your riding conditions are more prone to mud. Just a thought. New product innovation always exites me because it means our sport is progessing. Maybe lighter/faster parts are not your thing, but for me, I like to go fast and I like to know that I can trust my parts. Sure, a lot of new and shiny parts are crap, but that is how we learn. If we do not redesign and re-think the way our parts are made, how can we expect for future parts to be any better than what is currently on the market. It's pure logic. Ok I'm going to step off my soapbox now. Go Ride!

 why does everyone care so much about dirt on a bashguard. its a downhill bike. get over it

 What the hell ever happened to the most simple guide on the planet: A carbon boomerang with two rollers, done. Weighs less than a barend cap and does the job!
Someone wants to make something useful, make one-piece, molded guides that are similar to the Straitline Silent Guide with NO moving parts, but also no bolts, nuts, sleeves, etc. And make em cheap so they can be replaced after several hits since the $45+ tacos/ring guards have to be anyway.

 I've had guides from pretty much every company over the last 10 years and my guides never flop around. Then again, I do look after my bike... Maybe that's your issue? I don't like hype as much as anyone, but this is another option for riders that has less to go wrong with it. More options = better for riders. Don't like it or don't need it? Don't buy it!

 if you ask me, taco solution like MRP G2 is the best ever for single ring CG. It does not need to get better, it's perfect as it is these days. However I have no idea why does it cost so much. It's not even worth the half price... but at the same time as you guys say, production-wise the simplicity of a boomerang and two rollers is unbeatable...

spiffy: too much options is not good for riders. It is not good for any human beeing. It is also not good for the company itself. Most psychologists and economists know that. However marketing guys, salesmen and product designers have big trouble with understanding that... you would get it if you would think for a while whether it is good to have 3 options or 30. How much your expectations grow equally to risk of dissatisfaction...

 Spiffy; you clearly didn't catch the sarcasm of dirteveryday's comment. I think you should read it again, and maybe retract your statement about his bike maintenance habits...

 @tetonlarry, That is true.. sorry!

 Thanks, Tetonlarry...yes, pure sarcasm in that. To me it seems like the industry is currently approaching a desparate point where it's reached it's max potential and is now just getting ridiculous trying to stay on top of an industry they should proabably just be thankful they even exist in at all!
Hell, the whole world is at that point right now, anyone seen an ORIGINAL movie lately?? EVERYTHING has been done, redone, and then hashed into pathetic bits of repetitiveness.

I.....AM......BORED.

 WAKI I and 2 other people I know have bent chainguide tabs using tacos, mine are so bad that neither I nor my LBS can get the backplate off the frame, next time its deffo an SRS for me. Plus the weight difference is about 50 grams now, was a lot more before the current gen

and dirteveryday I think the new 9 tooth cassette based systems could be good, its grams off the bike at no extra cost (if anything cheaper as less metal is being used) and more BB clearance. Not revolutionary but still a great idea

 Im not knocking the 9t thing. I get it and I like the idea, even knowing that it wont be "affordable" meaning for the price, 96% of us can live without it and be just fine. The other 4% who'd use every ounce of it are out riding and not posting opinions on Pinkbike like us!
So far the 9t cassette/gear is hub/wheel specific, is it not? Can't remember for sure, but isn't it DT Swiss specific? I keep thinking Hope was coming out with or still working on a one or two piece cassette with a 9t cog.

But the guide itself is silly. It's simply a smaller guide, which they already have out. I have a 30t on my dj bike and a 32 on my XC/trail bike. And the super simple boomerang w/rollers and a decent, light bashring are all that's needed, never let me down yet! I run an MRP G2 on my TR450 and while I love it and it's NEVER let me down, it still really could be simpler! I've been debating running a boomerang style on it as well, but dont feel like answering the questions about it every day...my other bikes are clunkers, so people just think it's what I had sitting around.

 what are you bored of? riding your bike?

 No, bored of bland products and waiting on a new wheel that was supposed to arrive yesterday if it wasn't for the freak snowstorm we just had saying I wouldn't get to ride today anyway. Bored.

 all goods, i'm still riding my kona hardtail dirt jump bike that i bought when i was 14, ride it for everything except DH races, its a bit too small but i love it i'll never be bored of it, who cares if the products pointless or is boring the companies wouldnt make them if someone didnt want them

 36 11 is like 3.5 to 1 option... you have to be going pretty fast.

 Actually, I find that 36 11 is definitely not always enough at medium to extra fast speeds. At the same time, there is no way in hell that I am going to run a front derailleur or a larger front chainring. I am really hoping the new trend of less gears catches on. 6 speeds, and a 9 tooth rear cog is exactly what I would run if it was ready for the public now.

 i just used a normal srs but brought a 32t bash guard. so the point in this is?