Electric Assist Downhill Bikes?

Jan 13, 2011
by Tyler Maine  
Source: www.engadget.com

Ego-Kits declares victory over nature, gravity with its E-Powered Downhill Bike Kit.

In a move that is sure to excite the outdoorsman (or outdoors-lady, as it were) in us all, German outfit Ego-Kits has unveiled the E-Powered Downhill Bike Kit so you don't have to go through all that pesky exercise getting to the top of the mountain to enjoy the thrill of bombing back down.The kit comes with a 1200-watt aluminum motor that mounts under the down tube of 70 percent of downhill bike models, a battery pack (contained within an included backpack), charger, controller module, crankset, chain, and twist grip throttle with a battery charge indicator. We don't know the price or when the system will officially go on sale, but we do know that when mounted on a mountain bike, it looks cooler than other, more pedestrian electric bikes we've seen previously. Jump after the break to see the Ego-Kit in action.




Learn more about this wild set up at www.ego-kits.com.

What do you make of this set up? Would like to try one or do you think it should go away? Put your thoughts down below.

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813 Comments

  • + 388
 are people really that lazy that they can't be bothered to push or ride up the hill?
  • + 349
 I usually don't flame but this is a stupid fucking idea... Maybe it's not retarded on some grandpa's commuter for when he runs out of energy, but not a damn dh sled. Earn your run!
  • - 332
flag OliScale (Jan 13, 2011 at 11:54) (Below Threshold)
 great idea, just wait for a few years of development and these bikes will be awesome not much use here in Britain, but i can see these bikes working well in somewhere with mountains
  • + 52
 i could think of way more better things the company could be making!
  • + 47
 Whats the point od putting electric motor od bicycle?!?!
If you ask me, stupid idea
  • + 453
 I wasn't aware you could make a Kona any heavier... guess you can.
  • + 234
 Wait I think I heard of one of these before...wait a minute...i think they...um...what were...oh yeah...Motorbikes! :/
  • - 164
flag OliScale (Jan 13, 2011 at 11:58) (Below Threshold)
 actually i take that back ha
  • + 27
 Why do you need a elektric powered DOWNHILL bike??
A normal elektric bike rides super, but al that weight on a mountainbike...not my thing!
  • + 10
 That bike is a big no no! Stupid Idea
  • + 5
 its grate... NOT!!!
  • + 19
 I'd like to have a go on one. But I don't think I'd ever actually buy one.
  • + 55
 This is just what i need Big Grin buying batteries for my bike because its not expensive enough Razz
  • + 11
 why???
  • + 113
 you take it back because people disagree with you? It's not advertised as being on an XC bike (which would take away the point of XC) and DH bikes aren't exactly designed for climbing so whats wrong with something that makes it easier and quicker to get more runs in. Especially in the UK where you push up for 5-10 minutes for a 50 second run.

I'm not saying I'd buy one but I can't see why there's so much negativity.
  • + 11
 I think commuters would love this however, for mountain biking? Personally, the most satisfying aspect of the ride is reaching the summit under the power of lung and leg... But this is coming from an xc/trail rider.
  • + 6
 i think its for the lazy downhillers... ok maybe not lazy.. but it sucks to have to walk up a whole mountain, only to rip down it in just a few mins. this is a great design for one of those kinda rides. but in my opinion, its way to bulky, and i would never use it. just learn to ride up hills. it gets easy after a while.
  • - 5
flag mike-gillespie (Jan 13, 2011 at 12:11) (Below Threshold)
 so fucking gay!!! either pick a dirt bike or donwhill bike, honestly!!
  • + 19
 Who cares about performance. There's a freewheel in the cranks.. Meaning double loud pawls.
  • + 14
 OliScale .... have you not heared of a place called fort william?
  • - 4
flag mrbushavaazbuka (Jan 13, 2011 at 12:14) (Below Threshold)
 After all, I think it's not that bad, the idea probaly is for the ones who doesn't have any lift near, or a vehicle, so they can still reach the peak of the mountain without having to push the bike... Though, who's that stupid to buy a dh bike for just going to work, the one who needs something like that, will probaly buy a city bike, or a motor bike.
  • - 43
flag supersonicrider (Jan 13, 2011 at 12:15) (Below Threshold)
 if i saw this thing win some world cups, then maybe i'd consider one it'd be cool if they made all that heavy looking stuff lighter and put it in the frame too
  • + 16
 We don't get chairlifts in the UK and the majority of people push up all day and have a few runs. IMO it'll depend on the weight of the system as to how many they sell. Obviously DHers in places like Whistler won't need one though...
  • + 16
 This would be amazing for the fat guys you see riding huge bikes at trail centres...
  • + 102
 30 years from now, i will still carry my bike to the summit, probably getting passed by fifty 16 year old sh*ts with e-bikes laughing at me ... and i will STILL think to myself "you pussys!"
  • + 13
 stupid idea would ruin the sport full stop. might aswell take up motorcrosss or enduro !!
  • + 24
 This is not okay. We joke about this kind of thing sometimes when its hot and we are pushing our bikes but............this completely rips the soul right out of mountain biking. What you have here my friends.........is a dirtbike.
  • + 14
 www.pinkbike.com/photo/5963774

This might be a good replacement
  • - 6
flag beluga-whale (Jan 13, 2011 at 12:38) (Below Threshold)
 GAY
  • + 7
 Agree with Darkstar....millions of times I've said "oh man I wish I had a motor on this thing" when it's pushing 100 degrees and I'm grinding uphill for a 4 minute downhill. But in reality, this isn't mountain biking.
  • - 4
flag Mooney10 (Jan 13, 2011 at 12:42) (Below Threshold)
 I wonder who was the lazy prick behind this idea in the first place..
  • + 9
 April 1st is 3 months away guys -_-
  • + 5
 An Electric downhill bike? Doesnt the downhill part suggest you dont need any electric help Razz

Just push it up! -_-
  • + 8
 At this point, it stops being a bike...
  • + 9
 Never buy one, not in a million years, but test one? as a guilty pleasure? um.... yes.
  • + 1
 i reckon i would make the bike feel bottom heavy and hard to pull through corners ... all that weight slung over the bars and the lower part of the bike must effect handling???!!!
  • + 4
 So 'Ego-Kits' obviously ate a huge bowl of fucking stupid for breakfast...
  • + 4
 The burnout donut at the end was amazing!
  • + 10
 I got one of these 17 years ago... its called my legs.
  • + 6
 Personally, after watching the video, its just another invention to make people more lazy.. I bet half of the fitness you obtain from downhill is by pushing your bike back up the mountain. Plus, the reward from being able to ride down after pushing up will be less satisfying with one of these electric powered machines.It will also make your bike so much heavier and less maneuverable. And I know that some people really hate pushing their bikes and would love to buy one of these, but hey, no matter if you're going up or down the mountain, its all part of the fun Smile
  • - 38
flag OliScale (Jan 13, 2011 at 13:31) (Below Threshold)
 haha -70 thats my record!
  • + 3
 i think they are going for the reward of doing probably close to double the runs, if not more. My only question is, a lot of trails that i hike up, are tough to walk let alone ride. So would this setup tackle that. I am sure most everyone that walks there bike up hill isn't on a nice trail like the video.
  • - 4
flag despar66 (Jan 13, 2011 at 13:49) (Below Threshold)
 wow this is stupid o look im a pussy and cant go fast down a hill so ill add a motor to boost my confidiance soooo lame
  • + 2
 I've never seen "props" scores like this... The highest and lowest numbers ever. LOL.
  • + 2
 I do say lazy as well, but f*ck I'm lazy!!! This would be bad ass lol. I could ride all day and not get tired. This is just for the stoners of the sport, lets be honest. Nothing wrong with a little fun eh??? Would it really make people fatter, or get people outdoors more? I really hate that noise though, the point to mountain biking sometimes is to enjoy the peace of the trail/nature, this ruins any peace lol.
  • + 4
 haha qulity i thought it was just going to be slow a sh*t but they actually prety quick for going up hills and makes you go faster downhill so i dont see the problem with them
  • + 2
 To be honest this is only worth it so go can say "BRAAAAAAAP BRAAAP" or for those who have those replacement knees, and they can't bend their knees past 90 degrees.
  • + 7
 I know im gonna be hated for this, but oh well... I can't see that this is the worst invention ever. I mean, sure its not gonna sell to most people on here and I know I certainly wont be buying one, but there are people out there who have the money for it and may actually benefit from it. I don't think its any use for when you're at the trails, but if you dont drive then i can see that it will have its advantages. I honestly think that there have been worse inventions in mountain biking technology, and this will either catch on or it wont. I personally think its a pretty good idea.
  • + 6
 The people behind this are missing the point... I have had 3 heart surgeries, and I would rather WALK my bike uphill than ride that thing-
  • + 2
 its not really mounted in the smartest of places.. why would you want to have to worry about destroying it every ride, and the cost of replacing it or buying parts for it would not be worth it.
  • + 2
 I might use it for riding in snow, but that's about it.
  • + 3
 That thing just supports lazyness, weak mind and therefore body. Aimed to support doing the wrong thing. It is genuienly wrong. The only exception is someone impaired in some way who wants to enjoy MTB. That is an exception confirming the rule. Above being simply lame it is just not moral - enough said.
  • - 1
 im down....
  • + 0
 people saying the downhill is more rewarding after earning it by a gruesome uphill...? wtf? i sure dont feel that way.. but i'd definatley not buy this thing, although it would be kinda cool, not on a downhill bike though... maybe a long-travel all mountain bike possibly??
  • + 0
 Defeates the point of a push bike i enjoy xc when i go for the odd loop the uphill keeps you fit and after covering a few k you feel good about what you have done com this on a downhill bike is useless too it will end up smashed to shit by rocks and all that also just makes you think your fast when your not people need to pedal to get speed !
  • + 1
 that is so hilarious hahah , that thing makes the bike heavy
  • + 2
 I wonder how many times they had to charge it during that video...
  • + 7
 haha what else do they wanna put on a bike? power steering?
  • + 2
 there's no way im riding down a trail with that thing under the bike.... i mean, if they could make something that you could dismount at the top of the trail or something then maybe, MAYBE, i would consider it as an option..... or even better something that you could get rid of completely at the top of the trail.... but that's not possible so fuck it....shit i ride trails here in greece that would tear this thing appart with the first run.....oh or even better something that you could get rid of completely at the top of the trail.... but that's not possible so fuck it.... i'll just walk up the trail and exercise as well.... and i agree that the reward is greater at the end when you've worked your way up.... just useless imo....
  • - 3
 JUST ORDERED ONE SO STOKED!!!!!
  • + 5
 Makes the queerest sound ever!
  • + 4
 I agree with the majority of comments I've read. I would rather be controlling the bike under my own power, not a motors. Think about if you strapped this on to an inexperienced rider's bike: they run a fairly high risk of not using it in the right places on a track, which could lead to an injury fairly easily.

Also, It's just not a feasible idea for a DH bike, especially when you mount the motor on the down tube, where it is the most vulnerable to impact from roots/rock/etc.
  • - 3
 Kiponga stop flaming
  • + 0
 ride that shit in new mexico and see how long the motor last hanging off the bike like it does... dumbest idea ever. i hop ethe company goes belly up!
  • + 2
 As fun as that movie made it look, I feel like having a motor would take away all the epicness and connectedness associated with mountain biking. I see why it would appeal to certain riders, but I personally can't imagine ever using one.



Besides, I have a feeling those wouldn't be too popular on public use trails, let alone legal(at least where I live).
  • + 2
 ^ Hahaha, funny thing is that although I agree with all them, I'm very sure that a bunch of them only ride bike parks... mm yeahhh haha.
  • + 1
 And i like how they dont even post the battery cell in those picture... the backpack the guy is wearing in the video is all of the cell.. its huge!!!!! why would you ever spend extra money... downhilling is expensive already!!!
  • + 1
 Im So confused, why would you have a motor on a DOWNHILL bike, I mean Gravity is already there to help you....
  • + 0
 wow, that totally defeats the purpose of having a bike, it sounds bad, and i looks bad. that is kinda stupid.
  • + 16
 braaaaap....

wait...


eeeeep.



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  • - 15
flag kiponga (Jan 13, 2011 at 16:07) (Below Threshold)
 I guess pinkbike just can't handle the future of our sport.
  • + 2
 If you are willing to strap a shitty little motor gadget to your top of the line DH rig that you probably spent more money on than your car, than you deserve this waste of monet and engineering
  • + 3
 i might get trolled for this but i do have a lazy side of me and that side loves this idea
  • + 1
 GTFO and buy a dirtbike..
  • + 2
 I think its awsome and would be way fun and thats al lthat really matters to me. I would buy it. so what if its more of a dirtbike. if you have some moral reason not to buy a dirtbike then dont buy one of these, but i would love to ride dirtbikes and i used to before they got to expensive.
  • + 2
 if you wanna get uphill faster, or faster in general.. without effort ...just do what Rob Warner does in earthed 3... just strap a huge ass para-gliding fan on your back XD
  • + 4
 thats tight, but probably not race legal...
  • + 2
 its cheating
  • + 3
 exactly
  • + 0
 Weak move Pinkbike.
  • + 3
 FUCK NO!!!!! PEDAL!! THATS WHAT THE PEDALS ARE THEIR FOR!!!! FUCK...NO!!
  • + 1
 oh man, is it just me or is this hill a workout and half to get down, i think we should use our electric backup
  • + 1
 would be fun to try thought, looks like its got some power
  • + 6
 it's advertised for DH not XC - and from the post it sounds like no one who DH ever shuttles or rides a chairlift - they all either pedal or push to the top, thats bullshit. And you probably could use it to accelerate downhill but do you really think that is what it's for - my concern would be could you put it in a backpack for the DH, weight, and cost. I have other bikes to pedal but pedaling/pushing a heavy bike with huge travel uphill sucks.
  • + 1
 Im sorry but when I see this two words come to mind "f*cking lazy!" Isnt one of the best feeling in biking finally making it to the top of a trail and knowing you actually earned your ride down? and the whole point of a pedal bike is to pedal, not use an engine that sounds like a stupid RC car.
  • + 2
 this is dumb... just make it leave... now!
  • - 2
 You guys flaming this have to be xc geeks. I ride DH because i like to go fast. Riding uphill is boring, pointless, and not worth putting the effort into. Going fast is the objective for dh'ers, not pushing up hill or climbing.
  • + 2
 I'm not an XC geek by any means. I like to RIDE bikes. I have an XC bike I RIDE. I have a DJ bike I RIDE. And I have a bigger bike I use for DH. I like to shuttle just as much as the next guy. I love bombing the hill and throwing the bike in the back of a truck and getting a ride up the hill. That being said, I still don't want a big dumbass motor on my bike. I like Mountain Biking. Not downhill moped-ing.
  • + 2
 It's a fucking mountain bike for a reason! If you wanted a motor on it you go buy a MOTOR BIKE... If you ask me, some people try WAY too hard to make money!!!!
  • + 0
 why wouldnt you just ride a dirt bike....
  • + 1
 I hate this so much!!! Just pedal/push/shuttle up the hill. Jesus people, what a waste of time!!!
  • - 1
 Bicycle isn't a motorbike! I don't like this idea... :S
  • + 1
 Yeah, let's buy a motorbike.. :c
  • + 1
 what happens when you crash? engine and all the shit breaks , then what. ur bike doesnt scoot ur ass around. hills , and repairs are like $1000 , this is a dumb idea!!!!!!!!
  • + 0
 If somebody shows up in a race with these, wouldnt it be immediate disquali?

it would be same thing as having enhancement drugs.
im pretty sure the bmx and moto people are gonna laugh at us when they find out that these things cost like 2500 to 4000 for a damn unit of this thing only



and i could almost imagine em instantly asking us "why dont you get a scooter or a mini moto bike?"...
  • - 7
flag Axemen30 (Jan 14, 2011 at 0:07) (Below Threshold)
 this bike reminds me why i BMX Razz
  • + 3
 ideas obviously not to make you go faster just to make the pushup easier but at my local the pushup is way too steep to ride up motor or no motor and that is so vulnerable to flying rocks haha not a ridiculous idea but a pretty bad one at least
  • + 2
 This video creates the idea of UPhill... I couldn't imagine a more vulnerable location for that electric motor... one rock and byebye hybrid system Smile
  • + 6
 For the first 10seconds i hated the idea, but i think if you wait a few years for this kind of thing to get refined it could be great, just think of a motor like this you could throw on to get you up the fire road back to the top of the track then have it detachable so you can just put it in your bag or something and get some good runs in. I think it would be bad to use it in an actual downhill run, i wouldn't even consider that. But for getting back up to the top of the track, or even getting to your downhill spots especially for kids that cant drive and have to trek for miles, i think its a great idea, just needs a little refining.
  • - 2
 this totally defeats the object of gravity. an electric downhill bike?YOUR GOING DOWNHILL, who needs electricity?
  • + 5
 ROFL after watching the vid i can imagine some guy trying to act tough as he rolls up to a group of DHer's with that little 'weeeeeeeee' sound coming from the motor XD
  • + 5
 i can totaly picture this. I'm seeing a fully tattooed, sleeve less, biker style mocho man rulling up on his DH rig. WEEEEEEEEEEEE
  • + 1
 HAHHAHAHAHA!!!! @knobzy, it would be so funny to make a parody of this ad. XD
  • + 3
 Many seem to be missing the point here. This doesn't stop you from putting out any effort you want, but it may allow you to get more out of your effort. Even for XC this can be cool as if you put out 100-150 Watts of constant pedalling you used to travel 10 km/h on average, now you pedal just as hard, have some assistance, and you travel 20 km/h. I would love to be able to go on 100-150 km xc rides in the same time it takes me to go 40 km now. This doesn't stop you from pedalling. What's the problem with that?

None of you clowns shuttle or ride lifts? How is that more noble? If the consensus point is that this somehow less work, it's only if you have no will power. Keep pedalling 100 Watts all day long and you'll not only see more countryside, you'll get the same workout.

E.
  • + 1
 have you even watched the vid .. i dont think so
  • + 6
 I never said i hated the idea. I actually like it.

I can't remember how many fire roads i have hauled a 50+ lbs bike to the top just to be tired and not have the enegry to fly down the trail. If it wasn't so big and bulk, i would enjoy something like that. Most trails i ride are 1-2 hr+ hike up and maybe half hr ride down. And i only do it once.

I like the idea, i just don't like the size and placeing. In 100+ years when these electric motors are tiny, then it will be pratical.

And those who say you have to earn your ride.. No you don't. Lots of people take chairlifts or shuttles trucks. Those people would also be classified being a PUSSY under the EARN your ride group. CALL ME A PUSSY ALL YOU WANT. My goal is to find the easiest way to the top so i can enjoy going down so much more.
  • - 2
 Yeah knobzy, get a mini moto ride or sumthing...
  • + 1
 That I can agree with, however I wouldnt ever spend money on a motor.
Btw, a 50+ lbs bike? I have a 24seven I dont know a bike heavier Razz
  • + 4
 Does this thing have reverse because that is the option that would sell me on it. I don't need to ride uphill and a motor is not really needed for downhill but when it comes to parallel parking that thing would be sweet.
  • + 4
 Putting it on a kona was a really bad idea.
  • + 4
 if you must know, i build a banshee scream that tipped the scaled at around 52lbs.
  • + 1
 Wow. I thought mine was heavy at 46ish.
  • + 0
 Isn't that err, what's the word? ...Cheating?
  • + 2
 everybody are bitching. but don't we all love chairlift? shame on us. this is great. i love pushing my bike to the top. but what if i can enjoy shreding my bike upthere and do twice they amount of run of a regular day?
  • + 0
 Its not the same as a chairlift. IMO If you don't want to pedal, then just buy a moto.
  • + 2
 i think it would be awesome on mount frome and stuff where you hike 1hr to get 15 mins of trails
  • - 1
 @gabrieldugas , yes chair lifts are used cuz thats just how u go up , u cant walk back up , u will probly get ran over Razz , a DH bike with a motor is gay. just go buy a Dirtbike , ...
  • + 2
 This idea will be viable when the electric items go more concentrated I think.
  • + 2
 the idea is ahead of its time
  • + 4
 we are all still manly and not that lazy
  • + 0
 I Thought the whole point of a bike is that you had to pedal it... get a friken moto or a scooter if your are a lazy ass! This is a dumb ass idea, good thing it was put on a Kona and not a nicer bike.
  • + 2
 Only fat chicks are going to buy this.
  • + 1
 Fat chicks dont ride Dh bikes.... Its just a dumb idea
  • + 0
 Exactly.................

Fat guys do though... www.pinkbike.com/photo/3637294
  • - 3
 tracy moesly rides downhill.
  • + 1
 Haha good point!
  • + 3
 There are different points to riding a bike. The point for me to ride a DH bike is to ride it DOWN HILL. If i wanted to ride up hill all the time, i'd get a XC bike. BUT i like the feel of a big and bulky bike going downhill. Like a few ppl mentions, once the technology gets smaller, it will be great. Right now its not. I would be the first one in line once its small and compact. I'm manly, but i don't want to do more work to NOT enjoy the outcome. THATs retarded.
  • + 5
 i've got a proper electric bike... built for urban commuting...... and i tried it on a trail...... and i have no electric bike anymore
  • + 2
 The video reminds me of the movie Hot Rod.
  • + 2
 It reminds me more of that scene in Tron
  • + 2
 well clearly none of you have ever ridden a dirt bike... theres not much to compare
  • + 0
 What?! WRONG. I ride a bit of moto from time to time, it's a completely different thing to downhill! that's like comparing air and cardboard... TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT F*CKING THINGS.
  • + 2
 Might have been a hint of irony in there adam, right Ravine?
  • + 1
 lol adam thats what im saying. that even with the electric motor mountain biking is nothing like mx
  • + 1
 ah, my mistake Wink *tells himself to GTFO and leaves...*
  • + 0
 i heard that heres already a product out that makes a bike go faster downhill... oh yeah, gravity.
  • + 1
 And i just picked up something else after watching the video, people wont bother to pedal when going downhill, they will just use the throttle.. If this becomes popular, which I hope it wont, I will feel very left out, being one of the few that use our own energy, not some little motor, to get our bikes moving Eek
  • - 3
 Guys. This is months old. Have a conversation at the bottom, stop replying to the other comments, i'm getting bored of reading people's opinions on it..
  • + 36
 Anyone who declares "victory" over nature has no place in it.
  • + 5
 i like that. why take the mountain out of mountain biking?
  • + 27
 does it come with a box of tampons?
  • + 4
 Why does so many companies want to f*ck up the main idea of biking?
  • + 1
 ^ Made me LOL!
  • + 1
 me too, me too
  • + 1
 haha nice
  • + 17
 Take this thing and shove it where the sun don't shine. Biking is about exercise, if I want a motorbike i'll f///////ng buy one.
  • + 2
 Were you planning to ride your DH bike to the top of your run? Let alone more than once?
  • + 16
 so yankee. "i wanna ried bikes butt imma too fat to pedal. Oh look! McDonalds!"
  • + 3
 haha, that made me go lol.
  • + 1
 f*ck that was funny
  • + 5
 German company though.
  • + 6
 So Yankee???

"German outfit Ego-Kits has unveiled....."

Plus It looks to me like there's quite a variety of cultures on here hating on this thing right now including "Yankees".
  • + 8
 mmmmm McDonalds.
  • + 1
 AWAYYY that ruins the whole concept of a bike.
  • + 2
 Learn to read dumbass! "German outfit Ego-Kits has unveiled....."
  • + 2
 This guy needs to learn to read!
  • + 1
 Still so Yankee style. And admit it. America isn't the slimmest country in the world. This is bullshit.
  • + 4
 Do they even make bikes in finland?
  • + 1
 props to eeeasy for even recognizing the finland flag. and to give finnish signbraker some world knowledge most mountainbikers in america are not obese. I have traveled better than 20 countries and have seen fat people in all the countries, but most i am sure were not bikers. again german company, and dh isn't about pedaling/pushing.
  • + 17
 just... no.
  • + 6
 Will be great for my wife! Now she will stop grumbling about long uphills Wink
  • + 2
 ya this shits for pussies

if you can't tough out the uphill you don't deserve the fun of going down

and it's electric=gay
if you want a motor 2 stroke is where it's at, or a 4 stroke if you have a personal mechanic and spare parts
  • + 1
 think about how much more a motor will weigh than one of these
  • + 2
 it wouldn't be a bad idea if it could be easily mounted and removed, not for everyone, but it would help get more laps in before a race weekend
  • + 1
 11 '
  • + 0
 Its a battery powered dirt bike for god sake!
  • + 3
 Hahaa, only on a Kona
  • + 0
 i respect your idea but you shouls take it somwhere else
  • + 2
 this is the place for these ideas my friend
  • + 3
 I don't see why people are getting so shitty. Most people have at least 2 bikes, a DH, and a DJ or an XC bike, I don't consider pushing up hill my exercise. If I want exercise i'll take my XC out, but if this means in place where there's no road access you can do just as many runs, then why not. Hell, if any of you tried it out and did 5 runs in the time of one pushing up running, you'd change your mind completely.
  • - 1
 yeah, and you would change from straight to gay aswell.
  • + 1
 Staike, do you ever push up to do runs?
  • + 1
 e bikes are cool i guess but not this type of e bikes
  • + 1
 Shred: I have never ever taken a lift or similar to the top of the trail. Pushing/riding is the only way to 99% of the top of the mountains around here. There is one mountain where it goes a cable lift to the top, but I have yet to ride it.
  • + 2
 Not deserving the ride down because you don't push it up? But I like lift access! I don't get it often but when I do I don't feel any guilt about not pushing it up the hill!
Notice the guy in the video didn't ride any DH? Everything he did I would do on my all mountain, or even and xc bike.
  • + 0
 My critism in was not pointed at lifts. that's just great. If I had the chance I would probably use one as much as possible. My critism was pointed at that fucked up ego thing that this article is about.
  • + 2
 i'll tell where this technology would be great, after a downhill run and you want to go to the top, simply put a detachable version on your bike to get you to the top of the hill, and then take it off and do another run
  • + 2
 I'll Take 8!
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 What if it added no weight to the bike and was inside the frame? Would people still hate it? Is it the design or concept? I personally don't like the design, but the concept is cool. Many hills would take all day to push up and no lifts are available. You lose nothing by not having to push or lift access would be a bad thing.
The concept is the same as having a lift or shuttle, and no one complains about that.
I question the performance of the thing when climbing and the added weights coming down, but that is design.
Those of you who are afraid of being mocked: grow a pair you bunch of sheep. You are afraid to do anything the popular kids might think is lame? Jeeze. What happened to the days when people had the courage to do their own thing, popular kids be damned.
  • + 2
 i think it a good idea if it wasnt so heavy
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 these are a select few of my questions, opinions
1. its downhill, most tracks have an uplift
2. even if there isn't most downhill tracks tend to be steep
3. wouldnt it be a good warm up to sort of push up
4. again if ws a cold month pushing does heat u up a bit
5. it looks difficult to maintain or clean
6. if it broke could a local bike mechanic fix it
7. its ugly
8. wouldnt the b/b part break if u went down say stairs, a drop, steep section, rocky section, if u bottomed out ur rear shock, a side walk??
9. wouldnt that through u over the bars and kill u??
10.the stem/handle bar mounted part, if u hit a tree tht could cause some problems?
11. is it weather tight?
12. weight?? as if dh bikes were heavy enough although they are getting lighter i suppose
13. you would get ripped/ bullied/ pwnd of other dh riders for exposing ur ride to this!
14. you would also get called fat
15. it will be expensive
16. weight again as i cant get over tht Razz
17. youve now made me angry as ive been raged at by my girlfriend because i didnt reply to her facebook comment because i spent the last 10 minuits typing this!
so good bye and have a pleasant tommoro, i will consider finishing this list later Wink
  • + 2
 please do us all a favor and DONT finish this! BORING!!!!!!!!
  • + 7
 I say "Hell Yea!!" No more shuttle runs with a truck. Now we can enjoy going up the hill as much as coming down. Has nothing to do with lazy and everything to do with accessability. Not all of us ride XC bikes or even all mountain bikes, but we all enjoy going down hill; now every one of us can enjoy uphill too!!. Weight is a factor, albeit a small one considering the travel of modern bikes. Cost is the biggest factor here. Under 400.00 and you have a sale, over 500.00 and its a bad move. On top of the 2-3k most of us spend on our rides, then add gear and extras and you can easily reach 3500-4000. After writing that check, I would not consider adding another 500+ to the tab. IMO.
  • + 10
 Good idea for disabled or injured people.
  • + 1
 good thinking Smile
  • + 2
 Agreed. People do lose limbs and still dream of riding. Amputies can continue to ride with this kit. It would also be a great bit of kit for the Mega avalanche if your a bit lazy and wish to take a shot at winning. hahaha
  • + 1
 not sure if this was meant as a joke, but thats an interesting prospect for an injured rider who's on the road to recovery.
  • + 1
 Ok, but what will happen if someone who was injured than transfer from this bike to normal bike?
All the weaknesess will appear at the moment when he will start to ride normal bike, i mean for some person with past injury.......
(im bad with english so maybe someone could understand me what im thinking)
  • + 2
 stefan, I seewhat your getting at but it beats not riding at all...
  • + 1
 @gazmataz, by that reasoning you could ride an mx bike down mega avalanche...
  • + 1
 gazmataz, if they dont have prostetics then they cant right any way any how, ive seen people ride with prostetics, so why would they need this? but if they dont have a fake a leg how they gonna ride? sitting the whole time?
  • + 2
 All injuries and disabilities are completely subjective. I'm sure for some people this wouldn't be of any benefit but like evomtb says, for people who can no longer pedal, this simply means they can ride a bike again.
  • + 10
 fail......
  • + 4
 How many of us shuttle though? I've wondered about a small assist motor with a removable battery for the DH bike I'd never pedal uphill anyway. Better for the environment than a 4x4 truck doing laps. But you've got to have separate up and down tracks! Design-wise, a bunch of extra weight (especially on the handlebar) is the deal breaker. I love to pedal my bike, but there could be a future for this type of doohickey.
  • + 1
 agreed! Gas isn't going to get any cheaper.. I enjoy riding more than spending a hour pushing my bike up for a couple runs a day.
I wonder how long it lasts on one charge?
  • + 4
 I have taken trips to Peru to free ride and DH and I can say this, these bikes would be indispensable in those situations. no lifts endless climbs and breathtaking trails. I would love to go with groups of people on these types of trips but most of the people I know would not want to or be able to climb a freeride bike through the Andes at 3500 meters above sea level, acclimatization is a rough transition enough without the added workout of pedaling a 35lb+ stead. My only worry is, can you jump the bike? I don't mean Redbull style hucking but five foot step downs and the like. Can it take a beating? why do these companies always put the motor and such in a place where a rock can smash it? The guy in the video doesn't jump higher than 6 inches ( if you even call that a jump) and what about water?
It depends on where you want to go I suppose, I live at sea level and the air is pretty thin in the Andes. Some tour companies can benefit from these devices but if the bikes spends most of the time being repaired or on the charging stand its a bit of a hassle. I've read lots of the posts and most of them are just people who want something to laugh at ( that behavior is just silly). These devices are the types of things that get people out of their houses and barricaded beach front resort vacation rituals into vacations that they can actually come back home and show to they're friends and workmates without boring the heck out of them. I don't think this model is tough enough to withstand that much of a beating but its a good start, good luck guys!!!
  • + 4
 I think this product definatly has its merits. As stated above, it would be great for people with disabilities. And say your riding spot is a 30 minuite pedal from town. You have a big bike (8" susp front and rear) so you get really tired pedaling out there and then you have to push up to ride, so then your really tired. Or strap this bad boy on, cruise to your riding spot, ride, then cruise back home. More runs, more fun. No vehicle needed. Where I ride its a 55 minuite PUSH up an old fireroad to the top. I'm not plesantly walking beside my bike chatting it up with my friends having a good time. I am pushing my bike in front of me, one step at a time, hating life, sweating buckets and breathing so hard I can't talk. If the price was reasonable and spare parts were easilly accessible, I would consider buying one of these to strap onto my dh rig for days where I can't get a shuttle lined up.

And for all you folks saying why don't you go buy a dirtbike, have you ever ridden a DB yourself? Its a totally different idea/design/purpose than riding a dh bike. They arn't comparable in any way besides both having 2 wheels and handlebars so stop saying that a dh bike with an electric motor and a mx bike are interchangable.
  • + 0
 Some of the best trails are the ones you have to hike to get to. If people start strapping these motors to their bikes, some of the best trails are going to be ruined because they will be over used and people will be to lazy to take care of them. Then the people that are willing to work for their ride will get shafted.
  • + 4
 A motor assist for some people makes sense. We have a few closed ski resorts out here that are now state parks and stuff and very few resorts that do chair access for bikes within 2 hours drive. Normally I just ride the closed resorts all mountain, but if I was a hardcore DHer I'd want to have a motor assist so I could ride more than twice when I couldn't make it to the lifts. I just don't like the look of that motor. Looks too big and is just asking for a big rock to smash it. Another smaller chainring, on the other side maybe and putting the motor in a less vulnerable spot if they can find one. Maybe a quick mount motor you can pull off and put in your pack or something.
  • + 4
 I think this is an AWESOME idea, Fair play to the guy who designed it.
I ride a lot of xc and dh and to be honest when i go out on the dh bike id rather be riding then pushing up hills, its not designed to be an mx bike, its just to take away the push up from the sport of dh so I'm a massive fan of this. It was only time till someone could make it. When can I purchase one Big Grin
  • + 4
 I would like to have one, maybe not for the price but it would be fun to have and 70km/h flat with a DH/FR bike would be fun in town with stairs and such. Also for going uphill because it gets boring to push the bike after a few times.

I don't see the reason to be so negative about it, none will force you to get it. For XC I surly understand, but for FR where you rather ride the bike then push it uphill it would be great.
  • - 1
 theres no point in xc either, xc riders want to ride not be propelled by a motor.
  • + 2
 That's what I ment, for XC I understand they want to pedal uphill. But for freeride... it kind of is free ride to get a little help and not be held back because it's to heavy to pedal up the speed. With this you can jump around in flat or slightly uphill terrain and not be limited do downhill terrain.
  • + 0
 i would rather ride an xc or all-mountain bike on flat or slightly uphill not my dh bike. the purpose of having my dh bike is to go downhill with it
  • + 3
 'victory over nature!?' piss off and go sell them to BP or some other Eco Rapist... and put it on a DH bike !? no i don't get the point...the only point is : once you get to the top of the hill with the assist then you are STUCK with this piece of extra shit weight, AND your cool looking DH bike now looks like a retarded lame duck, AND try carving berms or hucking drops with this joke attached to your DH rig...obviously you haven't a clue what a DH bike is or what it is for, " for gods sakes"duuhuuh!
as for all the 'negative thoughts' Einstien, this IS a forum for opinions on product, so i suggest you wake up and smell the coffee when 99% of the responses are calling it shit - this product is NOT for DH bikes or any real Mt. Biker; it is for geriatric urban bikers who actually would benefit from it going up the hilly streets OR maybe you should just buy them all up and send them back to the phillipines as gifts for all the wooses who can't push or ride their rigs up the little hills there. ps. do you even know what an All Mt. or Slopestyle is? i doubt it - you are still going 'down a hill' ...i think you need to change your handle to twenty 10until your vision is corrected.
  • + 3
 when suspension fork came out, (remember the Scott Unishock and the Manitou and not to forget RS' mag 21) lots of people were saying it was a huge gimmick, when disc brakes were coming out, (remember the cable actuated hydraulic disc from Hayes?) That was a gimmick too and now, we've turned in the the narrow mined old fart generation who "just pump your arms to absorb the bumps" or "just pump your brakes to control your speed" well actually not me, only the haters are old farts. I love this sport, I'll teach it to my kids, grand kids, neighbors kids, your kids,,,,,,,
  • + 0
 yep, as long as you are keeping it real and teaching it without this joke...
  • + 3
 I think it's a fine solution for reaching to top of the hill. You will inevitably get more DH runs in and become a better rider. You think the rider that gets in half the number of runs is going to be better because he walked up the hill a couple times? WRONG. Don't lump Dhing in with XC...the point of a DH bike IS IN FACT to go down the hill. As long as it isn't too obtrusive, I'd say it is a great product.
  • + 3
 Congrats on being the smartest voice in this swamp of people who dig it but wont say because the kid above them called it Gey! I think it looks fun! But I also live 9 hours from the nearest lift. I think the Shuttlebuddy might be a better idea though, check that thing out, plus it rips! Oh, and the fact that it's removeable and fits in a backpack is cool too. But agreed. A downhill bike IS a downhill bike. Never designed for 3 hours of technical climbing. If it was it would have a 10 degree steeper headangle, weigh 20 POUNDS less, and have more than 6 gears combined.
  • + 2
 I rode home from Sea Otter with the inventor of the Shuttle Buddy and got a chance to talk with him about it. He has years of R&D into that thing. You're right...the fact that it just pops right off is the most important, and , trust me, you hardly notice it on your back. With a better silencer, the Shuttle Buddy would be unbeatable.
  • + 1
 Downhill bike is a bad choice for most of people, just like XC bike. They are very limited in terms of different activitie you can do with them. DH bike is the most single purpose of all, being at the same time the most expensive of all. You need to pay at least 5 times more for a cheapest DH rig than for a cheapest Xc mtb. It is also the least self sufficient one. It is hard to pedal it from one side of town to another. Effective Dh biking relies solely on shuttles and lifts, which require certain infrastructure, and a very very limited number of owners have a easy and fast access to such. It also requires steep technical tracks found only in mountains, which most of world's population has a limited access to. Ultimately doing only Downhilling will make you reach a skill plateau above which you won't be able to progress. Downhilling makes sense only as a competitive sport, focused on pushing the borders of bike handling skills. Trained alone holds a very little human body and brain development value comparing to other, less specialized disciplines of MTB. That thing will only make you reach your skills plateau faster. And this plateau will lie lower than you think.
  • + 2
 I know it's crazy...but some people RIDE BIKES FOR FUN! I know, it's a ridiculous thought! All I know is I've been shredding since I was 2 years old. I'm 38 now and only going harder till I can't no more...but the first time I catch myself taking it too seriously I'm out. Plenty of crap in a short life to take too seriously, my PASSION wont be one of them!
  • + 0
 I don't take it seriously in practice, I have no time for it. I am 29 and I already had enough case studies in my bike life that shortcuts in mountain biking lead nowhere, especially Downhill Biking can only screw you up pretty badly. That also means you are having very little fun comparing to those who have enough strength to take the bike all the way up . There are levels of fun you are totaly unaware of then. People spend lots lots of money on protection and bikes believing that ensures a good fun. The minimize the negative effect instead of minimizing the reason. Earning this money takes time. Take some hours off then every week instead and do minimal training. Actualy minimal training takes 15 minutes after waking up. A very little of something everyday can do wonders. Then spend this money you would on that ridiculous bike on MTB skills clinics. You will be a better rider and have more fun. U are lucky to live in USA, Go to Gene Hamiltons website and ask him for his certified skill coaches in your area. www.betterride.net Equipment is never the answer. Sign up to this guys newsletter and discover new levels of fun. I also recommend www.leelikesbikes.com and www.bikejames.com They train the best in the world and will help you if you only want
  • + 1
 Ummm....NO.
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 you can't change what you don't acknowledge
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 I NEVER ASKED FOR A CHANGE! Mind your own business and stop telling people what to do! You're being a pompous ass! Already fucking said I don't give a fuck about training.
  • + 0
 Chill out I tried to give you a good idea, do what you want
  • + 2
 Alright I have warmed up to this idea.. Looks like a blast but Still not for everyone.. And sorry b-free, I thought you were quoting the dr. Phil sound board, not tryin to hurt any feelins
  • + 1
 Actually...I didn't realize anyone but WAK had responded..I was in full fume mode when you chimed in, I didn't even look at the name, just assumed it was captain snobby pants still tellin people how THEY should be doing things!
  • + 3
 I love how everybody on here is calling this 'lazy' or for 'fat Americans'.

Chairlifts are a pretty stupid idea for mountain bike aren't they? I hate them. Uplifts in 4x4s too, they're for fat, lazy people, what's the point in MOUNTAIN biking if you're going to get a chairlift to the top? Whistler is just a stupid place to ride bikes for fat, lazy Americans.

Seriously? The execution isn't fantastic but I'd kill to be able to do more than 2 or 3 runs of my local DOWNHILL track before I couldn't push any more. Some of us live near some reasonable hills in the UK that you just can't push up and down all day. Pushing up hills is not why I got into downhill, smashing turns and rocks the whole way down a mountain is. If this product leads to the evolution of similar, better products then good for them.

Until then I'll stick to shuttling in a van, but I guess you lot think that's just not mountain biking.

Remember, Earn Your Turns Man! (Ha!)
  • + 1
 My thoughts exactly. I like the pain of pushing up, but when I'm somewhere with no shuttle or lift (ie most places in UK) I'd love the option to have loads of low effort runs rather than a few slog based ones. DH is about blasting down isn't it? But, yeah, this doesn't look the best. But if somebody makes good one I'd be interested.
  • - 1
 You guys dont even know what you are talking about
  • + 1
 Well reasoned foxracer.
  • + 3
 Hey jcinkits...I said It's ugly right. I don't like it, I said it would work in my country...meaning dumb ass for those who likes it. I never said I like the darn shit on my bike. Do you know me? You don't right. You said that this forum is open for opinions...well that's my own opinion retard. Come this march I'll be in ontario, why don't we meet a*shole. You only have balls in front of your computer. If you want let's race, what do you want DH or 4X? Let me know where you are on march 4, I'll be the one to travel on your locatrion then let's race on your turf. Sorry for my english for this is not my first tounge.
  • + 2
 hey, first off why is it that you are wondering about my balls ? Hmmmm. oh well i have nothing against gay bikers, and as for my laughable little drop, that was a race on the North Shore [ Neds Atomic Dustbin ] that i won...so relax and take a chill pill potty mouth it's not my fault mommy didn't breast feed you - meantime my reply to you was directed at your idea that somehow this piece of shit was ok cause it was for a DH rig, so i don't care if you can do 50 ft drops tough guy, you still don't know what DHing is!
As for meeting you in Onterrible for a race: hahahahahahahaha...sorry to disappoint you macho man but i'll stick to BC [ Whistler, North Shore, Sunshine Coast, etc etc ] unlike you i am not interested in wether you have balls or not ! [ on the hill or in front of a computer ] i ride because i love to - i have nothing to prove, and try to remember next time you get all bent out of shape about a bike issue, we are just riding bicycles not feeding the worlds hungry or finding a cure for cancer - if you want to get THAT angry about something as innocuous as biking it's a likely you need to go live in Iraq or hang out with the Taliban to get a perspective that will help you get rid of some of that rage. happy trails.
  • + 1
 You really don't know how to read...I said I'll be the one to travel on your location. Do I need to repeat that again? I was in BC last year, february 21 to 26. Was in north shore last june 18 to 21. Just to let yoy know. If you want we could meet on BC on march 20? Please do say yes...I want your balls.
  • + 1
 hey boner breath go fixate on someone elses balls, and while your at it grow up - if your looking for trouble, be careful..........it is you who can't read, like i said, i have nothing to prove...but don't push it, go collect someone elses balls - it would be a BIG mistake to think i don't have any; meantime let it go, and be happy believing you are the toughest bitch on the block.
  • + 4
 I think this is a fuc&ing great idea. This will let you ride bike parks when the lifts aren't open. All the idiots saying it's just lazy and pedal your bike up, you try pedaling your dh rig to the top of a ski hill.
  • + 7
 Would like to see how it holds up after a DH Run or two...
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 true! but if u could take the system of the bike into a backpack it really could be nice! theres a lot of hating about that product...
if i wann go downhill that means either take a shuttle or walk up (which is annoying if u wanna do lots of runs)
i dont think thats a stupid idea, especially because motocrossers arent allowed in the woods. There arent any laws about bikes with an electric motor.
i wouldnt buy it because we got enough possibilities to get on top of a mountain without walking and because it costs not only a few bugs
  • + 3
 Most of you here are missing the point. To all the complainers and haters of this idea, next time your at your local bike park, pedal up the hill instead of taking the chairlift since pedaling is so important. Who enjoys pedaling a DH bike up the hill to take runs anyway? It sucks! And pushing is slow. This is a rad idea to get in more DH runs to practice. If I want to pedal uphill I will ride my xc bike, but for taking DH runs to practice on my DH bike, this is a cool idea. Anyone ever heard of the shuttle buddy?
  • + 0
 Yes, you´re right...
But the problem here is that the guy on the movie it´s using the engine while going downhill too...
  • + 2
 He was but the main purpose of the motor is the uphill. Maybe the guy in the movie was just trying to show off, which was a dumb idea. I hate having to push my bike. Few more years, better placement of all that crap and i bet more people will buy this. good idea just needs alot more refining.
  • + 3
 Ok, First of all, the reason bike companies shave so much weight is to make the bike faster, easier to get up hill. SO, this thing adding weight is fine, because it will do most of the work for you. Second, how come someone using this to get to the top is soooo lazy, but taking a chairlift or shuttle is not... Third of all, its not a dirt bike just because it has electric assist. This would be allowed in many areas that no dirt would be. So I see no problem with it really.
  • + 1
 You are spot-on.
  • + 2
 in my opinion,
the design has a long long long.. way to go!
however the concept is brilliant!

imagine if there was a way to shuttle ur rig to the top!
much rather ride up on my own bike, than a chair lift
this could also open up all new kinds of riding enviornments(backcountry!)
im sure this would open up a lot more DH specific bike parks.(no lift access=no lift ticket=no money!)

but, realistically.. its hard to be optimistic about THIS design.
lets all just hope that with all the research and development being put into the idea, someday down the road
there will be a product that will serve that purpose.
all i know is there will have to be a drastic reduction in Bulk and Weight
  • + 1
 There are all nature of cycles, some motorized, some pedal, some with suspension, some without so I'm not surprised to see this kind of thing being made. My only concern is what effect motorized mountain bikes would have on trails. Brake chatter is hard enough to maintain trails with, but ruts in front of every jump because now you would no longer need to maintain speed to hit jumps at the right speed. You could just motor up as you come into a jump, taking away the flow of the sport, and creating a problem for everyone else out on the trails.
Ride any moto trail, or even sit on your couch and watch a motocross race and see how fast ruts form on high powered motos, the same rutting would happen on bike trails because the added power assist with even a low power motor promotes the easy way of riding slow in the sketchy parts and powering up as you come into a nice smooth built jump.
Reality is, this would be a product that new riders might be attracted to (unless you're specific location could really use it, but thats rare). That means if you're riding something like this as you learn to ride challenging terrain, you're going to develop bad habits and lazy riding style. You'll never push through a rock garden to get to the next jump with speed, which means you will be powering up as you get into the preload of a jump. Clearly from that little donut the guy does at the end of the video, this thing has enough power to dig up the trail when you want to. Wouldn't want to see it on my trails.
  • + 2
 no thanks i have chairlifts ! And if I want to climb the mountain on my bike I take out my all mountain bike and I'm very happy to suffer for climbing these mountains ! I don't want any electronic hel ! , Its enough to have allen keys, inner tubes and chain device in my back pack, I don't want to have to take batteries and a welding kit just in case... but its still nice to see that some people are trying to develop things around mtb !
  • + 2
 Everyone is slagging this. Dont think i would ever get one but its not too bad considering its powerfull enough to get you up the hill. Yes it may be lazy and blah blah with the other 100 comments slagging it but in general i dont think its too bad an idea. That in mind ive not seen the price yet Razz
  • + 3
 WTF this is the most pointless thing ever!!!! we have two legs why dont we use them to get to the top of the hill! keeps you fit...only fat lazy farts need an engine to get up the top!
  • + 2
 I don't get all the haters.
Bikeparks are great, everyone loves to shuttle up the hill and get lots of nice runs out of the day. I haven't heard bikepark-bashing for a long time.
This bike is just about the same, the only difference is that you can finally get more runs out of hills that don't have lifts.

It would make no sense for XC, but the point of downhilling is going down the hill, so why should this version of going up the hill be bad?
  • + 2
 Even if it were a good idea, the bike is now excluded from most of the good downhill runs that you would otherwise have to push/ ride up.
When you put a motor on a bike, it becomes a motorbike, which is not allowed on most mountain bike trails. Instead of this, just get a dirt bike and go play on dirtbkie trails.
So the only trails this would be good for is private ones, and if I had my own private trails, I would be embarrased to be out of shape enough to consider one.

Good job on keeping the weight low! At least it should still corner!
  • + 2
 dlegault. cross country and road riding is mainly for riding up hills so having an engine kind of defeats the purpose, for dh it would we good for an easy uplift a fire road but on the downhill just pretty pointless, its a nuts idea, but nice to see one of these in action.
  • + 1
 yes but that is why we have chairlift's. i understand ur argument that in the case of pre/post season hike-a-bike but i think for overall it would be pointless, and when it comes to xc, i mean not everyone is all about the uphill's, they may just enjoy the trail riding itself, thats where i see it come into play.
  • + 2
 The thing is, that you don't wanna push your bike for 40 mins to enjoy 3 mins of DH, well at least I won't...what's the point here?
If I wanna do XC, I'll bring my XC bike bike....

I'm not saying that I'm buying one (yet Big Grin ) but idea is good.
  • + 2
 Great idea and love it. ok people dont diss this bike Electric Engine. some of us dont have cars and shuttle service around to get to the top of the mountain and not all of us are hardcore XC riders who like to ride up hill. i can tell ya ive done my mountain bike riding with no car avaliable and no shuttle service and ive climbed a total of like 100,000 feet all together combined all the mountains. i may look a bit goofy now but give it some time and i will be small. i think its a great idea and i would def buy one.
  • + 1
 A big improvement would be a quick release battery system so once you're at the top, just unplug, stick it in your bag and off ya go (without an extra couple kilos hanging over the bars screwing up the handling).
  • + 1
 Shuttlebuddy.com
  • + 4
 bike manufacturers spend a lot of time and money just to make their bikes light and all that gets ruined with this device. epic fail!
  • + 2
 What if it added no weight to the bike and was inside the frame? Would people still hate it? Is it the design or concept? I personally don't like the design, but the concept is cool. Many hills would take all day to push up and no lifts are available. You lose nothing by not having to push or lift access would be a bad thing.
The concept is the same as having a lift or shuttle, and no one complains about that.
I question the performance of the thing when climbing and the added weights coming down, but that is design.
Those of you who are afraid of being mocked: grow a pair you bunch of sheep. You are afraid to do anything the popular kids might think is lame? Jeeze. What happened to the days when people had the courage to do their own thing, popular kids be damned.
  • + 1
 i think the concept is cool too, i dont like trying to get to the top of hills so it would help but the design is the major downside
  • + 2
 If bikes like this ever catch on it will bring much unwanted heat to the mtb community. Here on the Front Range of Colorado we already have too many multi use issues; a bike like this would guarantee more trail closures. I hope I NEVER see anything like this out on the trail. Hikers and other trail uses already lobby against mountain bikes more now than any other time now that technology has made bikes so fast and capable, add any kind of motor and see how that goes over.
  • + 1
 i would personaly smash any one of these stupid motorised bikes into bits! and i totaly agree with the comment above
  • + 1
 Agree, was meant to give you a prop but my phone touch screen and fat finger gave neg one. Im with u guys!
  • + 2
 I think if this interests you then you should ride a dirtbike. Dirtbikes go too fast?? Ride a smaller one. Also when you Bomb down the hill unless it is a smooth trail how soon until this breaks?? The first big drop?? Neat Idea, but not good for the sport!!
  • + 2
 this is seriously the worst idea ever, downhill bike - they go downhill, motor - not needed. you could argue the point that it would help coming out of tight corners, switchbacks etc. but how much help is that motor really gonna be, is it worth the weight?
  • + 6
 I think Yamaha makes one as well, but they use gas.
  • + 3
 its not mountain biking with a motor... just f*cking pedal up the hill. plus, what happens when a rock hits it? and the excessive weight? and the annoying whining sound of the motor? waaay too many cons, hardly any pros.
  • + 1
 there is nothing wrong with the invention, matter of fact its a good idea, it'll be more fun..but then again the essence of riding a bike, xc, trail or downhill, would be defeated..top downhill riders are either good in trail riding or even xc...mountainbiking is outdoor fun and fitness and to enjoy it means having to feel your bike going up and down..put it this way(for lazy downhill riders), moving your bike uphill is like weight and resistance training already...downhill mountain biking is not as easy as it looks, you really have be fit to gain those skills needed to enjoy hardcore downhill/freeriding...you dont need that much padding if you have those guns(muscles) ready.
  • + 2
 ok well i guess it is a lil stupid, but i dont really see the big deal or why everyone s hating, some say it takes the biking out of mountain biking, but if your just going to push your bike then your not biking.. climbing up a mountain is bitch on your legs, so why not? aslo would be good for some older people that still like dh, ive seen someone thats was 61 dhing at highland, also if theres a chairlift then your just not doing shit, so think of this kind of as your portable chair lift just sit on your seat and wait to get to the top..(well help it out a lil bit atleast)
  • + 4
 i would say this is the worst article ive ever read on pinkbike, its a disgrace to those of us who love to ride our bikes, no motors attached.
  • + 3
 "all that pesky exercise" If exercising is so "pesky" why bother riding a bike? For us no-lift-access riders, pushing up is a quintessential part of riding down.
  • + 1
 I think alot of people have missed the fact that the article has been written in a fairly ironic way. I think the writer shares the opinion of the majority of riders on here.
  • + 1
 I dont know where most of you are riding but here in British Columbia we have big mountains. Not 15 minute pushes for 50 seconds of riding, mountains that take 30 minutes to shuttle up so I dont even want to think about how long it would take to push up... its just not an option. I can see the concerns about location as well as weight but, common, if I want to ride up a hill I will get out my XC rig. This would get me out of my truck and on my bike more and really isnt that what we all want. I don't think anyone has touched on the environmental benefits this has for cutting back on shuttling. And anyone that wants to call me fat or lazy... post your crossfit workout times and we'll talk.
  • + 1
 you are missing the point: the 'assist' has no use on a DH rig for anyone who actually rips down a trail; stunts would be sketchier than a tacoed wheel - it is meant for someone with physical limitations doing urban riding - as for your fitness level physically, could be aces, but i think it's your mind that needs the workout: this is a peice of shit and if you need this junk to get you out of your truck and on the trail, have fun, but i live in 'big mountain' BC too and i have no problem getting out of my truck and on to the trails, anywhere: The Shore, Burnaby Mt. The Sunshine Coast, wherever and i can tell you the environmental "benefits" are this: more oil demand to produce the fuel to deliver the materials to build this joke, and as it is electric, more batteries used [ mercury, lead etc. ] the whole enviro angle is a moot point as our rides create tons of pollution just the same in the manufacturing process etc; so lets just stick to our opinions on how some us [ you] think they are the next wonderful gimmick out there, and the rest of us who KNOW they are simply some schmucks idea of how to laugh all the way to the bank because there will always be some of you who haven't figured out "if it ain't broke don't fix it"
  • + 1
 It's not an option if you're a lazy ass. Don't speak for everyone here in BC especially those of us who have no problems pushing bikes for an hour uphill to get good downhill.
  • + 1
 perhaps i did not articulate my comment well; not certain where you are coming from as i agree with you - as much as i dislike pushing up a hill i would [ and do ] push uphill in a nano second before i would use an 'assist'
  • + 1
 jc - I was replying to daddy - lardbutt. I agree with you. the last thing needed on some cherry hard - to - access singletrack is fat lazy pigs who can only get up to said cherry singletrack because they've got an electric wind-up-toy. That singletrack won't be nice for very long dumbed down to daddy lardbutt common denominator
  • + 1
 [ sorry, your comment came to my dash ] and yeh , the only time i will ever use an "assist" it will be attached to a gun to help me shoot myself rather than become a lardbutt [ or lardbrain ! ie: the assist as an eco friendly device - what a f'd up notion ]
  • + 1
 Excellent enginering, I mean come on that little box pushes about 200lbs up a montian! thats powerful design. I like the concent, its a great science prodject for a science fair not a product...product wise not many ppl will buy it. It goes against all morals of DH/FR.
  • + 1
 Looks too easy in the video, but the reality will be fat knackers (like me) who've been mountain biking for years and now have kids and no time to get fit using it like an off road stannah stair lift up the uplift track.
But...
I would have to have NO SHAME (tm) before I add that to my bike, so I'll take the heart attack option over this thanks.
  • + 1
 lolol electric bikes have bean around for a while now, and like many others have bean saying, if you have probs cycling uphill then yeah, otherwise bloody use your legs, also if i put one on my Kona it would mess the weight up, oh and amagine doing a 30ft jump and buming out the bike,,outch, nive vid but come on, mountainbike get it Mountain...
  • + 1
 I haven't read every remark so this may have already been posted... It's there a thing out there kind of like this... I think it's called a DIRT BIKE.

When is the strapon propeller and wing kit coming out?

... and how long would that motor last next to the BB.
  • + 4
 i could just see some idiot riding up a steep climb and his battery dyeing and him rolling back down the hill
  • + 1
 hahaah. i never thought about that part. thats so much possible.
  • + 2
 Kinda neat, but is it really worth it for the extra weight ? 1 more thing to hit and break, but it would be kinda handy if there isnt a lift. It saves you from lugging a 35-40 pound bike up a hill !
  • + 1
 i can understand were they are coming for mwith this but i thin kit will be better on somthing like a FR bike what you want to get up the hill when you go to the back and beond and then ride down but not on a full on DH bike it would be better suted to the AM/FR type of riding for when you need that extra little push but i would be prepered to get some stick from propeer all mountain riders who are using MUSCLE and LUNGS
  • + 1
 Looks ugly but I think this would work in my country, philippines. We don't have chairlifts here. I'm not sure why all this guys are putting negative thoughts on this. It says that you could put this on your DH bike....not on your XC bike....not on your all-mountain bike....not on your slopestyle bikes....get the point? It's for a downhill bike for god sakes.
  • + 1
 some one earlier posted how its a good idea for fat guys like me who have suuuper heavy bikes to get up and down the hill and still have fun however that being said maybe the reason i am still a fat guy is because of things like this making life to easy for me. some one else also posted that maybe making it something u can take off once u get the top is a good idea to!
  • + 1
 i dont know why everyone is slaging this off, if you ride most of the time and need uplifts, surely it will work out cheaper in the long run to get one of these? yeah i agree it should be a smaller system, but isnt this like the first one? so smaller ones will come!
  • + 2
 Isnt one of the main things about biking as a whole keeping fit? this doesnt really get anywhere, ok it saves you walking all the way up but is it really going to get anywhere?
  • + 1
 Its a neat idea, can't deny that. And can't deny it would be a good thing on long climbs/technical bits.. But the ground clearance SUCKS I've caught my chain ring on rocks many times, and this would be easily breakable.. if it could be placed somewhere else then it could possibly catch on
  • + 0
 I got an idea where they could place it...
  • + 1
 where?
  • + 1
 In the guys A** who came up with this idea
  • + 2
 Burn it!! I ride bikes because they are bikes. If i wanted a bike that powered its self i would buy a motorbike!! Not some electric motor that will get clogged up with mud, damaged by rocks and add weight to my bike!!
  • + 2
 haha no joke! i don't wanna share the trail with "Segway".
that is a rubbish. f*ck off!!

like people may have a health problem. at first it should be talked with a neighboring doctor.
no mountain. take care of yourself
  • + 1
 This would save a lot of people loads of gas money for shuttling. It's no mystery to anybody that dh riders only go up the mountain so they can come down. I think its a great idea. Just in case anybody missed the point:

"...so you don't have to go through all that pesky exercise getting to the top of the mountain to ENJOY THE THRILL OF BOMBING BACK DOWN."

It is NOT for the XC guys!
  • + 1
 this is possible the gayest thing av ever seen and av seen ur uncle jim and it wosny a pretty sight, he was gettin panneled by a horse! made me very ill seein this but tht bike is worse i just spewed all aboot ma kitchen shan
  • + 1
 ok, come on guys its not a bad idea
constructve criticism:
people would buy one if they could take it off whenever they wanted- for example race weekend or bike park,
make it as light as possible
change the mounting-i can see that thing getting demolished by rocks where its sitting
  • + 1
 And what about those people, me included, who have asthma, it takes me twice as long to ride to the top than the average mtn. biker. But i do agree with it being WAY too bulky, and think about what would happen when you crash.....
  • + 1
 I guess from the "green" aspect its kinda a good idea. Much better than the Shuttle Buddy. www.shuttlebuddy.com
I mean I personally dont mind peddling my Dh bike around, I do it all the time but if your the type of guy that shuttles up and down a residential street every weekend, like 90% of the people in my area, its a bit kinder to the environment than driving your pointless lifted F3million turbo diesel around all day. I personally wouldnt buy one for my bike but its a much better alternative for those that like to shuttle around all day long to get as many runs as possible.
  • + 1
 Diesels arn't all that bad for the environment. Gas engines are way worse.
  • + 1
 That is a complete disgrace. If this engineer would think for a moment WTF is he doing to the environment. Thanks to such lame inventions, a regular wanker with money can buy that thing just to post a picture on facebook: look I am in the mountains. On a extreme bike.

A normal person who cherish nature and uses a mtb as a sport and to train body and mind, excel, and enrich his life would never use that. A person who would like to have fun.

Instead a forementioned wanker will brake all the way down destroying trails and making noise on the way up. Then he will crash and rescue teams who we all pay for in our taxes will have to come to pick him up, while someone who really needs help might not get it in time. I don't even mention the environmental impact of batteries and making of something so unuseful.

At the same time this is a good sign of times we live in: capitalism driven by noeliberals, forces motivated and creative people to look for money by doing such stupid things because there are no jobs. Jobs are in China, Taiwan. Soon China will move production to Africa, terribly they already started doing it. EU fundings for newly start businesses and bank loans go for things so unnecessary as this crap.
  • + 0
 well said sir.
  • + 1
 sounds like you got a lot of issues guy!
  • + 1
 yezzzzzz! lot of easeuse
  • + 1
 If any of you strapped your downhiller on top of your Flintstone mobile or work for big oil then I can understand you saying that ebikes are for fat lazy people. Ebikes are not only about riding uphill to race downhill with a heavy 80 pound electric bike. I would hope you all embrace ebikes and look past the recreational competition aspect. Ask yourself this and I think you might understand my point. The next time you are working out climbing a hill on the road and an oil burning car floors the engine to pass you riding your bike will you enjoy the breathing in the smoke? Now let me ask you if an electric ebike passed you with and week’s worth of groceries attached would your body function better with the quiet clean air left in its trail? If you go out and buy a toy ebike like the automotive ebikes you will be better off pedaling and disappointed. You need an ebike that puts your car to shame in getting around town. The only thing that doesn’t make sense about ebikes is the laws. They need to be able to go over the 20MPH speed limit and I would like to see the ones that go over 20MPH needing a license and insurance. I would like to see a video of someone pulling up to downhill event with a street tire free rider ebike pulling a downhill bike on a trailer. I don’t think anyone will call you lazy or fat but that guy with his bike strapped on his Flintstone mobile.
  • + 1
 This is same thing as put same electric motor on full carbon roadbike. Honestly, who wants pedal downhillbike top of hill, even with electric assist, same rocky/rooty trail wich you will come down? Who wants a roadbike with this same concept? Not me. Such a waste of valuable desingtime and money. Electric motor assisted bike is good thing for people who commute lot, cruise around, elder people or transport high loads with bikes. Not good thing at all in full-on race bicycles, sport-spirit losts in bicycling in this case.

In my opinion: Earn your run, laptimes and strenght, don´t get them with technology!
  • + 1
 If your not 'Fit' enough to make it up the hill on your own, Your not 'Fit' enough to make it down in one piece. I think this will take beginner riders places they shouldn't be. On the plus side I think this could be a good idea for a handicap rider.
  • + 1
 all you fkers wish you had one.You ride lifts and take shuttles on DH bikes.With the pedal assist you still ride up ,ride further and faster.So much fun.I'm a motocross rider and a downhiller.Hardly ever ride moto anymore.Not as much fun as an ego-kit.
  • + 1
 sweet! ill take 3 units please!! now when i am done my day due to exhaustion this will easily throw in ten more.. and great when im drunk , the pedal to the beer store is over , roman candle electric mountain bike joust , no more hitch hiking with my bike to the local ski hill for a day on the chair lift.. i could sit here all day ... it looks like it comes right off perfect...
  • + 1
 Cant we all just get along.? and if You want one on your Bike good go buy one if not then just forget about it Mountain biking isn't going anywhere no one is saying you have to Put this on your Bike so Stop! Bitching Stop! Typing get off your ass and go for a Ride.. dam nothing but a bunch of grumpy old hags....
  • + 1
 This obviously is not for everyone. I have been mtbing for 18 years, everything from xc to downhill. Last year unfortunately I started having heart problems and now have a pacemaker. This has resulted in me not been able to go on my 5-hour epic all day cycles and have been restricted to short spins at an easy pace. Pretty frustrating for someone with 18 years experience and only 29 years of age. I personally think its a great idea and would allow people like myself get back into riding all day long and not have to worry about over exerting themselves. Everyone has right to enjoy this amazing sport.
  • + 1
 I don't mind the idea of this but come on are we really getting this lazy we already have chair lifts and shuttles. This takes the real joy out of this. The feeling that you have just climbed to the top of that mountain and now you tide three I minutes down..... Lol it's bikin get over it there are pro's and cons to this new product but I for an I disagree with it Cheers
  • + 1
 the only trails in the usa that can be ridden with a motor are dirtbike/atv trails.. you would get crucified for having a motor on bike trails. this takes away from the bike being the "most efficient machine ever made." I can see someone with disabilities or a commuter using this but it just doesn't belong in mountain biking. takes away from everything we stand for as mountain bikers.
  • + 1
 Every invention is to make life easier Smile
In 10 years this type of engines will be minimized and optimized and I'll use them if they will let me "play in the woods" longer.
And to improve the health and strength I will use my XC bike like now Wink
Cheeeeers!
  • + 1
 I know it's a bit silly but I think it's actually a good thing. This opens up our sport to a wider spectrum and to grow we need to be able to include as much of the population as we can. Older folks, people with injuries and the lazy will now be able to partake in some amazing bicycle adventures.
  • + 1
 I think it neglects and spoils the basic idea of a bike - a man powered vehicle, ment to be pedalled.If it's not pedaled , than it is a motorbike, am I right?Bikes have been invented in XVII as man powered vehicles and although I have seen earlier (late'70's and '80's) bikes with combustion motor driving the front wheel via a roller on the tire, I think bikes for seriuos bikers should be pedal driven.
I'm thinkis how much weight the whoile construction gains, and how unvaforably placed.
Bad idea.
  • + 1
 Great: Soon every moron will be able to reach the remotest places in the mountains. I'm actually concerned about those bikes: if you don't have to exersise for your trails they will soon be way to crowded and there will be more conflicts with hikers for sure.
I just don't like the idea!
  • + 1
 they need to integrate regenerative braking into the system so it charges as you're going down because i doubt the battery life is adequate.

To all of those clowns saying stuff like "if you're not fit enough to ride then you shouldn't ride dh" ...guess you guys NEVER use a chair lift. i also assume that you guys exclusively hike up to ski/board rather than take the chair lift..... what a bunch of hypocrites.

dont get me wrong i'll probably never buy one but its a cool idea
  • + 1
 I think the point is just, if you really wanna ride your DH Bike on a DH trail, you gotta go somewhere where there's a lift or a shuttle, or even walk up. If you don't wanna walk up or shuttle, well, then you gotta take another bike. I think that's the point about mountainbiking, you can't just ride what ever you want, the bike gotta fit to the trail, and a DH bike obviously doesn't fit to this kind of trail, because getting up there is, at least from my point of view, also part of the trail.
  • + 1
 I've assembled a $12,000 Optibike and I get the idea of electric assist MTB but I am not a fan, I prefer to term to earn turns; I just got done putting 13mi up on my 43lb Pinnr today, and I feel great, if I didn't pedal I wouldn't earn the workout to make me better at going down. and if you can't pedal, hike it, it's nature, it's you're bike, that's why you like it.
  • + 1
 i think this would be awesome but i think they could have done a way better demo video... show me some braap off some good lips/gaps and some good rear-wheel powered drifts on flat corners and power wheelies out of berms... i've always talked about have a few horsepower on tap... instead i just go "Braap" and/or pedal... a little throttle blip would be fun.. not saying i'd run out and buy one... but would love to take a spin on a well set-up one.
  • + 1
 If any downhill riders think that this is a good idea and would use a product to get up a mountain/hill, then ask yourself this.......... are you a mountain biker. i think people are losing sight of what mountain biking is, and maybe downhiller should be EXCLUDED from using the word mountain biking if they use this product. If your not pedaling your NOT mountain biking.
  • + 1
 I think its a good idea for bigger mountains.But my main problem would be the weight.And im lazy but i wouldnt buy one of these i also think it would get in ur way ..... And look where its placed does anybody think it would be scraping off rocks and what happens if you do a jump and its not mounted properly and falls off
  • + 1
 Just look at all of these responses... and then forget you ever researched this device, close up shop and cut your losses now. People pedal for a reason. Part of what makes this a great sport is the exercise you get from it. I'm personally not going to pedal 20 miles out in the wilderness with this thing only to have to pedal back out anyway because it broke or lost charge on me, so what good is it? And DH runs? That's what shuttle-accessible trails are for and motorbikes are already available for anyone who wants to go fast UP a hill on two wheels.
  • + 1
 i can see good and bad points in this device, especially in the disabled sector as weight distribution for the gear would be easier spread over the 4 wheels rather than a standard bicycle layout.
But then this is cycling. I didn't start cycling to whack a big electric motor on it so i could get up a hill abit faster. If you go off track abit and need to climb with your bike on your back or push up a steep trail, particularly in DH, then this is an extra weight you don't need to haul along.
I think electrical assist should be limited to town bikes. Anyone know if they are contemplating using the KERS system, as in F1, in the DH scene?
Anyways, i wouldn't want one. Whatever it costs i'm sure it would pay for a year or two of uplifts or a nice holiday.
  • + 1
 oh dear. Half the time round here, on tracks like Silton and Carlton Bank that aren't actually attached to a trail centre or whatnot, the quickest way to push up is through the steep and rough anyway, the fireroads take the scenic route. I doubt that could get up half the stuff most downhillers push up on a regular basis
  • + 1
 A TOTAL DESECRATION OF THE NOBLEST INVENTION OF MANKIND!!!
Motorcycles have motors, Bicycles don’t. This is an electric MOTORcycle, not a bicycle.
Wont do anything to help us in the land access debate either.
  • + 1
 Mountain biking is all about being on the trail with your bike. You and gravity power the machine that is the whole idea behind it. I think this really takes away from the sport, we might as well all go post our bikes for sale on pb and buy dirt bikes. Cool idea, I guess, but I will be won't be stoked if a see a bunch of kids on these bikes in the lineup at the whistler bike park.
  • + 1
 Cool product. I don't think this will focus on lazy people. Being lazy means sitting in front of a computer and commenting stuff Wink
Whoever goes out into nature is definitely not lazy. And I don't think 16 year old kids might hit my ego - hahaha - when passing me on my (classic) uphill ride.

I am an oldschool all-mountain-freak, a lonesome rider and the only possibilities for me wanting this gadget is
a) I am independent to get to far away trails
b) i could make a huge alpine tour which would take me two days in only one day
c) it's much cheaper getting a powerful assistance like this when adding this kit on my bike when i need it than buying a 9.000 Euro KTM EBike with the same specs. I don't need a second bike.

Well, right now I would not buy it but I'll keep this thing focussed for the next time
  • + 1
 Well, when there's no lift......I'd give it shot. I would've liked to try this driving through Idaho, Montana, Washington, Oregon and many other states seeing all those gnarly mountains that weren't lift accessed and had no roads going to the top. Could've got multiple runs in within a short period of time on some bad a*s mtns that are considered "out of bounds". Besides what's cheaper....this device, a dirtbike that you have to fill with $4.00/gallon gas or a chairlift when trying to ride out of bounds?

Carbon Fiber downhill bike with this device might be the lightest way to go. Does anybody know how much this thing weighs or how much weight it adds to the bike?
  • + 1
 Also would like to turn it off on the downhill part.
  • + 1
 I also remember test riding a cross country bike at Interbike Rhode Island that had front fork lockout which made it way easier to ride uphill. I wish downhill bikes had front fork lockouts and some sort of rear suspension device that would help it lockout so it would be easier to ride uphill. Does anyone know if they make anything like that?
  • + 1
 yeah, it's called an all mountain bike..
  • + 1
 The total weight of the unit is 4.4KG so under 10 LBS to the bike. Not bad I say. I actually like the idea of the shuttlebuddy.com. Maybe a future removeable electric version might be just the trick for DH racers who want to get as much runs in as possible in a local mountain with no lift or shuttle access.
  • + 1
 rory, get a piece of wood, wedge it into your linkage, tape it in so it stays and your set.
  • + 1
 I think the best comment so far points out that its not something a local bike shop can fix. Also, looks like it would be very susceptible to electrical failure in wet riding conditions. Furthermore, I personally wouldn't want all of that extra stuff clanging around on my DH bike. The mounting position is also retarded as it is around the downtube/BB area which is at a very high risk for smashing into things and damaging the motor. The battery is also an issue as a lot of DH'ers don't want to wear one of those while riding because they find things like that restrictive.

The only way I see this having any benefit is if it were smaller and EASILY detachable once you got to the top of the run, which it doesn't look like it is. Also, from my own experience as a mechanic electric bikes just suck and don't work well.
  • + 1
 The only context in which I can see this as a BIT of an advantage is if you wanna ride a really big mountain and have no shuttle. Otherwise, waste of money, loads of unnecessary weight and it takes a lot out of mountainbiking.
  • + 1
 I think it defeats the purpose of a freerideing. The tracker. The walking up something that you want to shred down. Hey I know we all have some times when we really dont want to walk up something but; if you want to shred up a hill and down one, get an enduro dirtbike.
  • + 1
 Now I can smoke weed on the bike instead of the ski lift when getting back to the top of the mountain. I would love to piss off riders coming down the same trail as I twist my throttle and puff a blunt going back up. Thats about the only positive thing I could come up with for this LAME ASS IDEA.
  • + 1
 just looks like an electric scooter in my eyes...bring on the OAP 4x4 electric chair mobiles and lets have races.What next Stennah stair lift DH series...sorry but this dosn't cut it for me. It's like putting a rocket pack on a horse,you just dont do it
  • + 1
 STUPID IDEA - REASON - through mountain biking people become healthy and fit, and yes even downhill, not just xc, if this product becomes mass produces and becomes really popular then the next generation of mountain bikers will become lazy fat f***, thats all I have to say.
  • + 1
 they should kill these poeple! who dare to make these things.
it even handles like sh*t going up hill he could't hold in a straight line as you kan see in the video.
and why in gods name would't you buy a 15 kilo bike and strap on a 15 kilo battery.
  • + 6
 thats is as good as AIDS
  • + 5
 I got fatter watching this video
  • + 1
 if you could take it off at the top of the hill and just put it in your bag then it would be better but it does take the excitement out of geting to the top of the hill. but i do hate the part of dh when it takes you 20-30 minutes to get to the mountain and 5 minutes to get down the mountain.
  • + 1
 If someone made this thing into a one pounds add on.. that fit snug into your frame and was not in the way at all.... and was easily removable... then it would be a really nice thing to have for places when you push up 5 min and ride down 30 seconds.

Or you could use it to ride to were you need to go (for those who don't have cars), hide it in the bushes and ride. Oh yea and they'd have to make like $100.
  • + 1
 Yeah, I think I´m going to sell my bike...
Looks like DH bikes are now going to use motors, so i´ll stay by my dirtbike (at least I´ll have much more power).
Just goofing around, of course...

!!! NO WAY I´LL CHANGE MY PEDALS FOR A THROTTLE !!!

(P.S.: By the way, why does the guy in the movie still have pedals on his bike? I think he only used them for about 2 seconds...)
  • + 1
 A guy at whistler this summer had an Electric DH bike, It looked like a small MX bike with pedals. I can see how this would work out if you dont have access to chair lifts or uplifts as i waste 80% of my time pushing back up
  • + 3
 What a load of shit , looks like a chewed up toffee as well , if you need help going fast downhill man up and pedel faster lazy bastards
  • + 1
 wow really? if you dont want to pedal or push up the hill, STOP F*CKING BIKING AND GET A DIRTBIKE!!! what is the world turning into.... oh yeah FAT AND LAZY... some people... and whoever invented this you know they made the motorcycle a good 60+ years ago right??
  • + 1
 The e-mountainbike induces major trail-access issues, I cannot see IMBA embracing this.

Here in Scandinavia all non-motorized outdoors users have access too all uncultivated/non-farming lands by ancient laws of rights of passage as long as nature is respected and there is not undue wear and tear of trails.
Electric motorbikes cloaked as mountainbikes might not work in our favour increasing the frequency of aggressive trail use and provoking skepticism in the eyes of other outdoor users.
I guess this applies to trail-access issues on public land in the rest of the world as well.

As long as land-owners, bike park owners etc approve, OK, in public-access trail systems, NO, it`s against the spirit and heart of mountainbiking!
  • + 1
 shit idea, for one, a lot of tracks have an uplift, for another, a lot of downhill tracks don't have a dedicated pushup that's actually ridable, and what about when you hit it against a rock or something? It's in a totally retarded place.
  • + 1
 not to mention it looks fucking ugly
  • + 3
 fuck if only people put their energy into the ELECTRIC CAR and not stupid fucking things like this the whole planet might be green again
  • + 1
 baby steps, buddy
  • + 1
 electric cars are out there. Look up hybrids, best of both worlds.
  • + 1
 no hybrids are stupid, theres no reason why car companies cant go full electric, they aleady did but they scrapped them because they cant make enough money off them because they simply dont break down at all compaired to gas engines
  • + 1
 "so you don't have to go through all that pesky exercise getting to the top of the mountain" WOW this is f*cking retarded!!!!!!! If we dont get exersise then shall we all try to ride DH like this www.utahmotorcycleriders.com/Pictures/crazy_fatguy-littlescooter.jpg also what dhbartrider11 is so true this indrustry is growing and i think i can speak for all of us when i say the last thing this sport needs is a motor!
  • + 1
 my only thought is how much extra weight is this thing gunna add to my rig? also wtf, i can see if people have heart problems or someother problem, but if your perfectly fune push or ride your bike up the hill. you gotta earn it
  • + 1
 The mountain biking market is growing fast and more and more people who may be lazy are making these stupid f#$king inventions, Its these type of invention that will destroy this sport, motors of any type have no place in mountain biking, as soon as put a motor on our bike you have a motorbike, and you are nothing more then a big f@$king pussy and nothing more.
  • + 4
 If you want to be lazy enough to get an electric bike, just get a dirtbike.
  • + 1
 BIGGEST LOAD OF SHITE U COULD GET ON A DH BIKE. yeh sure downhill bikes are improving, but to put this piece of shyte on - rediculus. this proberly wouldnt even have enuff power to get up most of the hills , ANYWHERE!!!! the only people who would buy this, is fat lazy shits who cant be botherd to walk up a hill to and then ride down. simply stuipid. IF THIS IS WHAT DOWNHILLS GONNA LOOK LIKE IN A FEW YEARS, I QUIT. UTTERLY SHITE. and i dont really care if i get negative props, im sure most downhillers would agree with me.
  • + 1
 This is obviously a product that was conceived without the proper market analysis if the responses on this forum are indicative of the future success of this product. That being said I don't have any explicit problem with such a device as electrically assisted bicycles are not considered a motor vehicle in any province or state and as such are entitled to ride on the same trails. For all the people saying that this steals the soul out of mountain biking then I would argue that chair lifts or truck shuttles also steal the soul of mountain biking. At least with this device you are on your bike instead of in a truck or on a chair.

My main issues with this product have nothing to do with the intended purpose but with the technical issues I fear may be insurmountable with current battery technology. Even a high-yield lithium-ion battery (which this surely is) can only hold a limited amount of energy. It would take a very heavy battery to make this product useful for riding up any significant hill. Even electric motorcycles with 200lb batteries only have a very limited range on level ground, much less hilly terrain. Even if this were enough to shuttle to the top of a decent trail once, it would certainly not have enough juice to do it repeatedly. Even with regenerative braking the process would not be 100% efficient and would only recover some of the energy from braking, possibly only 10-15% of the energy expended to climb the trail.

I say good on them for designing this product, good luck to them marketing it, and may the Lord have pity on their customer complaints department.
  • + 1
 Good thing also thinking about the shuttle/truck thing.
What I found on their website says that the power supply is a LiFePo4 (LFP; lithium-ironphosphate) battery.
www.ego-kits.com/en/battery

As an engineer I can tell you that you would not even get 1% of energy back from breaking a bicycle.
  • + 1
 the video is pretty cool in HD, even if the product isn't that great...... which I can't say it is or isn't.
Plus, for the Kona haters out there, its a product which fits 70% of DH bikes apparently.
It's just unfortunate for Kona that the promo piccies are of their bike.
Technology people. Its the future!!!
  • + 1
 like every body said.....Good innovation but bad idea.....The soul of the thing is to peddal it your self....use your bio energy....DO IT your self..overcome the feel of lazyness.... Reach to the fact that i Can....not the E-motor can....
  • + 1
 Ok im no genius but surly if u want something where you dont have to pedal you should buy a motorbike, they dont sound like a scalextric car and are generally a bit faster. Feel free to correct me if im wrong.
  • + 1
 Im sure the price of that electric piece of junk you could buy a decent Moto X bike. Infact for the price of any DH bike you can get a decent Moto X bike. But thats not the topic.
  • + 2
 Whoo Hoo! I made it to the top with a motor! Time to go down on my 60 pound pig of a bike with a battery the size of a laptop strapped to the front. Yeeeaahhhhhhh!
  • + 2
 Its just something else to worry about when your going over rocks or tricky terrain, Its just a burden and a waste of time, money and effort.
  • + 1
 The whole point of biking is pedaling using a electric one would defeat the purpose of it there just turning it into a motorcycle lol I didnt see the guy pedal one time in the vid too. lolololol fail.....
  • + 1
 one of the best parts about riding is earning your turns. this thing has NO future is downhill. if i dont want to walk to the top of the trails, ill use a chair lift (if there is one), a dirt bike, or a truck
  • + 1
 you say "earning your turns", so I take it you never use the chairlift and you always say to your buddies " no I'm ok, I'll walk up this one!!" You contradict yourself when you speak and have no argument for this forum....your just bored at home with nothing to do.
  • + 1
 this is kinda a stupid idea i mean if you cant get to the top by your self then you should hit the gym it will make you a better rider then putting a motor on your bike ever will
  • + 0
 Just....no. If you want to get to the top of a dh course without a shuttle or chairlift you just gotta push your dh bike or buy a 160mm travel bike with good angles and get pedalling. Earn your turns. Why add complication, weight and something that relies on electrical power to your bike just because of pure laziness.
  • + 1
 I would like to have it on a commuter bike. But Mountain bike is plain dumb, its super vulnurable to damage and being hit and abused. Then if it breaks on a ride, its probably too heavy then to pedal up.
  • + 1
 neat idea, but then what is the point of buying a $3000 bike when you could get a $3000 dirtbike. It defeats the purpose. Its better for old people cruisin' around town. No place in the dirt.
  • + 1
 This has to be one of the dumbest ideas i have ever seen. With this, next thing you know we will have some 400 pound dude screaming down the hill on his electric assist DH rig. I mean really. Keep to the pedal power.
  • + 5
 SIGN MY FATA$$ UP!
  • + 1
 If i had a choice between riding this bike and F**king my dead grandma...

Then well...

Id be tapping granny right now.

When are companies gonna give up on this uber S**T idea!?!
  • + 4
 as useful as a spoon to a fucking bear
  • + 3
 WE RIDE DH BIKES TO HAVE FUN, COMPETE AND EXERCISE! This is the lazy man's way out.
  • + 0
 What a poor Idea..
Fair enough design and build a product that is easy to fit on to the average Old Age Pensioners push iron to make going to the local shops a little easier (no disrespect to OAPs).. But sticking one on a downhill bike? Thats sole purpose it to be light, agile, gravity hunting 'pedal powered' race machine? Someone is clearly targeting the wrong market.. Ok so there's some ingenuity in it but please.. Not on a DH bike.. It's like taking a Race bred Motorcross bike and adding pedals to it incase you can't be bothered to pay for fuel............ Not for me thanks.
  • + 0
 The DH bike is the only type of bike that it DOES make sense on. What in the world are you talking about?
  • + 1
 Yea thats right.. Thats why you see so many riders in the down hill scene with this set up? or not.. Please explain yourself..
  • + 0
 that went right over your head there, buddy
  • + 1
 Don't flatter yourself.. Please do tell me why you think it is a better Idea to have this setup on a DH bike as apposed to on a simple run of the day commuter?.. I'm interested to know.. As far as I'm concerned the benefits of using less energy to get to the top of the trail (i.e It's slightly quicker, less tiring) do not overthrow the fact that I've now added nearly 10lb of weight and bulk to a DH bike I'm trying to keep light.. The battery mount so high up and on the bars? its better to have the weight as low a possible.. If you could detach the whole system quickly it may be better... I see there are benefits for some people.. e.g you have an asthmatic friend who struggles to keep up, this would take some of the work load off.. But as far as getting to the top of my local trails id rather walk up with my friends as opposed to be squirling all over the place up a very steep push up sounding like a paper shredder, just so I can fit one more run in and feel less fit... Thats the whole beauty of a push bike, it's a light, simple, 100% pure man powered clean green shredding machine... Add a motor? It's a motor bike, buddy x
  • + 0
 That isn't the battery mount on the bars, number one. Commuter bikes were made to be pedaled. If you enjoy walking uphill so much, get some short shorts and put some tape on your nipples. The gravity-assisted part of the ride is the part I enjoy most, so why not have more of it with an expedited trip to the top? The system isn't perfect, but you don't understand the basic idea of it, which is why I'm wasting my time here. It will always be over your head.
  • + 2
 I wear tape on my nipples for fun.
  • + 0
 Maybe they've got their target market mixed up. Instead use it as a way to propel and xc bike downhill... I want to see a video where a guy in spandex straps this thing to his 25 pound hardtail xc bike with full height seatpost and v-brakes and riden down on Youtube.
  • + 1
 This might be one of the stupidest ideas I've seen in a while. How much lazier can someone be to buy a part that effectively turns a mountain bike into a slow mx bike. Not to mention, it just looks dumb on the bike.
  • + 1
 If you bought that, don't even ride it. It will only bring you shame. Such waste of money! People creating new STUPID products! A DH Bike is perfect the way it is,not like that piece of crap!
  • + 0
 Honestly, just wtf are these ppl thinking ?... perfect example of wasted time and $$... just where does this lazy ass gadget world end ?... the small % of ppl keen on this should have killed it in the r&d stage.... Looks more like an eloborate practical joke, is it April 1st today?
  • + 1
 Is an excellent idea for people who have mobility problems ... for example those who use four-wheel bike! For two-wheel i think that is totally unnecessary...and perhaps the sound it makes...zzzzzzzzz!! xD
  • + 1
 A: You gotta earn your turns, this thing is bullshit...
B: Its gonna be like $400, so you are gonna feel stupid as shit when you smack it on a rock and break it going downhill...
  • + 1
 I agree, the places on my bikes with most scraches- handelbars and down tube- gota be the dumbest placings ever. However i do see one advantage, when it breaks/ runs out of charge on some fat kid they're gonna get fitter trying to get home Big Grin
  • + 0
 Ok, I've read alot of the comments but scrolled thru the rest and didn't see one thing about how an electric bike is a "motorized vehicle" which would make it illegal unless you're on an OHV trail...and in that case just ride a real motorcycle.
  • + 2
 it just is a bit pointless if u dont wana peddel up hills or on ur way down to go faster, you might alwell invest in a 125 motor x bike
  • + 1
 it would be fun.

but it would ruin the whole good feeling of getting to the top of the trail, having a break and then going back down (using your pedals)

it'll only help people get less exercise
  • + 5
 that poor Kona...
  • + 1
 Obviously not for XC pedal bikes.. and can you imagine trying to throw down a stunt with all that crap on a DH rig! This is the most ridiculous thing I ever seen! right next to Bike Bungee, lol.
  • + 1
 YEP!!! the only stunt you could do would be the " SLAM DUNK' as you are picking the 'assist' pieces out of your ass when you hit the ground!
  • + 1
 Id love to give one a go! If i was super rich id probably have one but only for messing about. It will never replace the satisfaction of reaching the summit by your own power though.
  • + 0
 Man, you need to EARN the right to go down the hill, and that price is paid by climbing it. Fkn lazy, who ever thought this up needs a smack. Mount that POS on a beach crusier or something, please don't ruin a nice piece of machinery like a DH rig.
  • + 1
 I think the guys at whistler would have a thing or two to say to you there...
  • + 0
 Not exactly a new idea. I think they are called motorcycles. If you want this, go buy a damn motocross bike, ride it to the top and then turn it off and coast down. WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF R AND D RESOURCES! (And a stupid f****n' idea!)
  • + 3
 I am opposed to such inventions, bicycle is a vehicle propelled by muscle and let it be...
  • + 4
 so much unnecessary weight.
  • + 12
 being put on the person or bike? haha
  • + 2
 Good call, Mike... Good call Wink
  • + 1
 somebody totally passed me up on the last little climb at downieville with one of these on their rigs... I had no idea what to think... still not sure how I stand with this modification to mans most noble invention.
  • + 2
 if some one gave me one my lazy ass would probably use it gotta find a better place to mount the battery tho did you guys look for the highest place on the bike to put it?
  • + 1
 id only use it if i was commuting to work on my DH rig. as for the mountain, hell no, what happens when i bottom out and that thing hits the ground, it will either be destroyed or do damage to my frame.
  • + 1
 Like sexley said, how many runs do you think you'd be able to do before that thing broke off in a rock garden or smt and you're left with no means of propulsion. (unless you have a chain tool of course)
  • + 1
 in my mind it takes away the whole point of a mountain bike being the greatest human powered adrenalin machine and having a motor takes away that whole aspect of it
  • + 1
 hahaha hasnt this been invented b4? i think its somethin called a... what is it? uhhh.... o yeah a motorcycle! the guy didnt even pedal once in the whole video wowww
  • + 1
 if you are truly that lazy just leave. stop biking get off the mountain and let the real bikers use the mountain for what its made for
  • + 1
 i could argue the arguement about real bikers earning their run etc, but my biggest gripe with this thing is that it sounds like a retarded rc car
  • + 1
 I don't like the idea, and would never own one myself. I think that riding up the hill is part of the challenge, and fun of mountain biking.
  • + 2
 I love how he yells once he reaches the top like he actually did something to get there
  • + 1
 Eheheheh, I totally agree!!!...
  • + 1
 i'd use it for some hills. Silly for 10-20 minute pushups..but for pushups that are getting to be 40 to an hour for a 5 minute run, this woule be perfect.
  • + 1
 Dude...if you are pushing up 40 to an hour for a 5 minute return...you need better trails not a bike with a motor!
  • + 1
 Its called having to push up fire roads in the mountains to ride down kick ass trails. Razz
  • + 2
 wow i knew this day was coming... stop eating mcdonalds then mabie you can pedal your bike.....so gayyyy
  • + 1
 lame! I would like to see some dumb shit try to ride that up some of the extremely steep hills we have in east arizona! Thats a half baked idea
  • + 2
 gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
  • + 1
 That is a horrible idea. AND it will add an easy 30 pounds to the bike. Those 1200 watt batteries are massive and extremely heavy as is and then you add the motor.
  • + 1
 ya i mean its cool and all but its kinda ugly and its got to effect how your bike handles. if it were really small then maybe but now idk
  • + 1
 the weight is also likely to throw off the bikes natural center of gravity and make for some strange handling because of the weight and position on the bike.
  • + 1
 This beats the point of a bicycle ( exercise, peddle powerd, NO MOTOR!) why are people adding little motors on bikes anyway ??? Not the way its supose to be!
  • + 1
 I will take one just in case I have to ride to job by bicycle:0 in this one case YES! it's 7:15 and I feel like I need more sleep i put that motor to my bike and have a napSmile
  • + 2
 WTH!?
yea, the whole idea of a bicycle is not to have a motor!

this is such a stupid idea...
  • + 1
 At first I thought yeah this is pretty lazy guys idea. But then I thought whats the difference between this and shuttling or riding a charlift at a bike park?
  • + 2
 The idea of a bike is that you pedal it YOURSELF, mountain bikes are not motorbikes!
  • + 2
 this is a tech geek's wet dream, but in reality a terrible idea for a downhill bike.
  • + 2
 could be good for rescues and commuters/bikers but to be honest its taking the biking out of mountain biking
  • + 1
 "Great idea! I love getting rid of "pesky excersize", adding 10 pounds to my bike, and bashing like 400$ dollars ofmotor into roots!"

Wow. just wow.
  • + 1
 If I wanted a motor, I'd ride a motorcycle. Once you take the pedaling out of biking, you've got nothing but a lightweight motorcycle.
  • + 1
 i rode mtocross for many years and hi want someting like this. i cood get alot more riding in the spring and at the end of the dh season
  • + 1
 www.pinkbike.com/photo/4806372

i think this is a much better idea as you can put the motor in your bag once you get to the top!
  • + 3
 why not just get a KTM 450???
  • + 1
 this is the stupidist idea i have ever heard of, its called downhill, if u need help getting speed going downhill then this is not the sport for you
  • + 2
 if you want to be able to ride uphill without pedalling, BUY A MOTOCROSS BIKE!!! pushing up is half the fun of riding DH.
  • + 1
 completely stupid... takes the real energy out of mountain biking. This is made for fat ass people who dont want to pedal anywhere.
  • + 3
 I guess now pussy's can ride DH too...
  • + 1
 Isn't my idea of mountain biking, if you want to ride mx, ride mx, don't put a motor on a mtb, crossing the too doesn't work at all
  • + 3
 Survey says........... this company will only sell like 2 of them.......
  • + 1
 1 to the bloke in the video, and 1 to his mum
  • + 3
 that has to be the most illogical thing to put on a DOWNHILL bike.
  • + 3
 Get a motorcycle? Considering how much dh bikes cost.
  • + 0
 Its called a dirt bike!! Why would anybody do this? cycling is now no longer a sport its ...well there is no name for it the only thing i can says is its f*cking stupid and must be disposed of.
  • + 0
 i do not think this is ideal for any bike it will never take off puting this on a bike takes the hole point of bicycling its good for comuters but not mtb it takes away bb hight it will get a shit kicking
  • + 1
 Why does the chain look like its stuck to the top of the chainring with no chain guide, surely it should come off at the top of the ring?
  • + 2
 it's two chains , one from the hub type thing on the down tube and one from the chain ring to the rear as normal
  • + 1
 ahh see it now lol
  • + 2
 I thought the same thing at 1st my self , had to go back to the pic a 2nd time to see it Razz
  • + 1
 i think the funniest part is when he does a donut at the end, that's the only time I saw the bike leave the ground, it prob weighs close to 55 lbs
  • + 1
 i would guess more dude, have you ever picked up a bionX? its a hybrid bike with a pedal assist motor WAY less powerful and its about 50lbs
  • + 1
 isnt the use of a dh bike to go down a hill and use gravity as ur motor? y add a motor when you already got 1?. and itd just brake easy as
  • + 0
 Heres a novel concept...if you just push or ride your bike up a hill...it may increase your fitness a bit and make you faster on the way down? Or have I totally misinterpreted the concept of athletic sport?
  • + 1
 i think its an alright idea but all the weight would be bad. even if they made on that you could take off but in a bag but still bad idea
  • + 1
 perhaps it would be better to invest in making something that improves in a way Downhill biking (a closed gear system for example) and not this kind of stuff
  • + 1
 i am the first one to bitch around when we have to hike up but this is wrong. Why put the pedal then? might as well use the motor on the downhill too...
  • + 1
 Super lame, they should take this off the market asap. I agree its def a good idea for old ppl or disabled ppl but not for true riders.
  • + 1
 Checkout shuttlebuddy.com. Way better design, more compact, just throw it in your back pack and ride like normal. We take ski lifts to the top why not these?
  • + 2
 This ruins thw whole purpose of pedaling! AND MTB'ING!!!!!! Stop taking out the fun parts!!!!!!!!
  • + 0
 The lamest and most embarasing thing ive seen!...any DHer that uses that should be ashamed of himself and is not a true gravity rider ..if i see a dude using that on the mtn he'll be lucky if i dont sockem one..
  • + 1
 You don't use it on the way down, if it's not getting to flat or a bit uphill but mainly when you go uphill if you don't have access to any kind of uphill transport.
  • + 2
 nooooo! maby for some fat people get a dh or a dirt bike and push your bike and get muscle
  • + 1
 Totally rediculous! one of the points of been out on your bike is for fitness... fun first of course! this idea is a total joke!
  • + 2
 If you don't want to be tired try motosport. Bike is a bike but anyaway if we have electrical city bikes...
  • + 1
 would make more sense if this company focused on building an electric "dirk bike" instead!
plus... the video was pretty cheezy so no help there...
  • + 1
 bikes r bikes if you want an electric thing go buy a f**kin vestfa MOTOR SCOOTER and go grocery shoping and get your nails done
  • + 2
 haha looks soo much fun Big Grin all these retards saying how there all lazy are just cocky puss's Big Grin
  • + 1
 Damn I feel bad for these guys they spent a lot of time making this happen and in one day they get so many negative rude comments.....dang
  • + 1
 What a stupid idea! It's completly killing the point of mountain biking.The human engine.BTW, I can realise I appear with this on a hill, everybody will laugh.
  • + 1
 So, you should not use any lift in bikepark or ride with bike on back of your truck ever!!! Wink This is crazy dude!

I will always a MTB rider, with or without engine...
  • + 3
 this makes the stinky look like its got a tumour!
  • + 2
 the ending with the little spin out thing with the bike totally reminded me of that movie hotrod
  • + 1
 Buy a motorcycle. Seriously, a used dirtbike is less than a new DH bike. Adding a motor to a bike makes it less bi-(ke) and more motor-.

"Balderdash!"
  • + 1
 i only see this as a way to hybridize your bike to make it an electric bike no purpose for downhill cuz it add unwanted weight and unbalance the bike .
  • + 1
 Seriously... Cmon, It's bicycle, it's supose for to pedal. If you want a motor, forget downhill and go to motocross, at least you have a decent engine...
  • + 3
 i hate this. downhill bike +motor=the moped of MX
  • + 1
 this just defets the entire purpose and the sense of achivement that you get when u reached somewhere by pedaling ur legs off to get there on a mountainbike. stupid idea
  • + 3
 they should install some cupholders while their at it
  • + 2
 one of the 1st comment up top, "earn your run" couldnt put it any better than that!
  • + 3
 everyone hates this idea haha. its so gay!!
  • + 2
 imagine the look on an xc riders face when you pass them uphill on a dh bike and pretending to pedal. haha
  • + 2
 Its funny it comes from germany its there way to make american fat and then go all world war 3 on there ass, hahahahaaha.
  • + 2
 its called an enduro bike if you wana go up hills and over obstacles with out pedaling, defeates the object of mtb really.
  • + 1
 i like the idea, imagine 10 years from now... i dont like the electric part, i hate dealing with, replacing, and chargin batteries
  • + 1
 why would you make such a stupid thing on a DOWNHILL bike if you even need electric power when you're going down the hill your really, really, really bad!!! unnecesary weight
  • + 2
 just mountain bike industry trying to fit in with the lazy, quick - fix culture the general population is basking in...
  • + 1
 what an absolute horrendous idea, a pedal bike is for pedalling. get an engine if you want an easy ride or wait till your an oap and get a mobility scooter.
  • + 1
 just got one 2 weeks ago, loving it, it gets me to the top so much faster, & i am riding longer,
  • + 2
 hey I earn my right to go down paying my lift ticket! bunch of hypocrites.
  • + 1
 no, pedaling is part of the challenge. besides that thing is REALLY heavy.
  • + 2
 I thought this was an early April fools joke:/
  • + 2
 mountain bike or motorbike ? it's your choice Blank Stare
  • + 2
 Cycle plus motor = motorcycle.....Fail...
  • - 2
 since when do you go up hill enough on a DH course that u need a motor? they put pedals on the bike for a reason. o'd say that extra 10 pounds is slowing you down. OW WAIT! AND KONA MADE IT SO THATS ANOTHER REASON NOT TO BUY IT
  • + 0
 Kona didn't make it.
  • - 1
 it says KONA
  • + 0
 Read the article. Or if you don't have time, I'll just cut and paste what you need to know:
"The kit comes with a 1200-watt aluminum motor that mounts under the down tube of 70 percent of downhill bike models".
that means that KONA happens to be one of the bikes that this KIT (that is what is being featured here, not the bike) FITS.
  • + 2
 hey smike, sounds like this guy would rather look at pictures than read! my 3 year old nephew has the same problem right now!
  • + 1
 an electric motor on a PEDAL BIKE really!! are companies spending money on this?!!!!
  • + 1
 sweet burn out but still its like 10 pounds added to your bike and i say smash that on a rock and its busted
  • + 1
 If some one is even thinking about that I´d say that he should get mx bike.
  • + 1
 I already have a bike with engine, but it's name is motorcycle, so simple... www.pinkbike.com/photo/5294120
  • + 1
 If I didnt want to work for my play on the way up I would have kept my dirtbike...
  • + 1
 totaly lame.. Razz its like a slow and bad motorcross bike..cant see the point in it.. destroying the magic of riding
  • + 1
 dumb Idea go ride a dirtbike if you want a motor. You'll get fat with this thing.
  • + 2
 chyah why not just buy a dirtbike
  • + 1
 This is for a pussy dh rider. keep it real and push up a hill that you cant ride your dh bike on.
  • + 1
 696 props AGAINST this idea in the first 2 comments.

I DONT THINK SOMEONE DID THEIR MARKET RESEARCH DID THEY?
  • + 0
 thats a badass inovation, that being said it wont change the DH scene in the least bit, and i wont be adding one to my toy collection ever.
  • + 1
 heavy+bulky+space consuming+ugly as f*ck+for lazy asses only= PIECE OF SH*T !!!!!!!!
  • + 1
 it' s a very good idea.............NOOOTT, i want to ride a bike and not motorcross
  • + 0
 I RIDE DH WITH ONE LEG AND I THINK ITS NOT A BAD IDEA FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE DISABILITIES.ALSO CHECK OUT THE SHUTTLE BUDDY.COM
  • + 2
 I'd buy a trials motorcycle instead.
  • + 1
 and i can also bet.. people who come with these motor assisted DH bikes on trails or park...they will be rejected by buddies. Everybody will look at them in a weird way. Its a nice concept.. but maybe it needs to get more compact .. almost invisible. I hope you get my idea.
  • + 1
 if we ride these they may as well let every one use performance enhancing drugs as it's a form of cheating
  • + 1
 Soon to be made in CHINA for the North American market. McMotors!!! available at wally's everywhere!
  • + 0
 mmmmhhhh Im pretty sure this Mountain Biking not Dirtbiking...............whoever thought up this idea obviously doesnt ride a bike..
  • + 2
 what stupid will spend money on this SHIT!!!
  • + 1
 I could see maybe using the "Shuttle Buddy" on occasion, but this is kind of stupid.
  • + 1
 this is so stupid if people really wanted to bike they would be stoked to hike for the joy of riding down a mountain.
  • + 1
 This could be useful for beginner riders if Mount 7 was ever declared sane...
  • + 1
 This bike just made me never want to look at a kona again.I have officially lost respect to kona as a company.
  • + 1
 .....all i can say is I am sure the Kona bike was only used to model the product, would you lose respect if they used your trek session model?
  • + 1
 ummm...yeah.No matter what company it is even if it was transition I would lose respect.
  • + 1
 how can someone like a sh..it like that???

if they dont like standard downhill bikes go for a Honda CRF!!!
  • + 1
 this is what i wished for when i was 13 hiking up fromme to upper oil can......... now im not a lil bitch
  • + 1
 also that trail looked super fun
  • + 2
 what happens when u east shit and break this?
  • + 1
 ur screwed
  • + 1
 it kinda goes against the whole point of mountainbiking, bikes have pedals for a reason
  • + 1
 This might be the most posts i have ever seen! Well my comment, I am embarassed for this idea/company!
  • + 1
 ssooooo a dirt bike? last time i checked there's pedals for pedaling on a bike not a f*ckin whining electric motor
  • + 1
 i thought bikes had pedals and YOUR OWN power for a reason...i say nay to a motor-powered bike. but im all for a motorcycle!
  • + 1
 Lol big fail because it's probs a payed add lol you all just made some rich person cry Lol
  • + 1
 if tht is whats coming on the stab supreme then im not thinking about it fucking hell
  • + 1
 Uhm.... no. Rather than compromising a downhill bike's intended usefulness, ride a fucking dirtbike for gods sake.
  • + 2
 APRIL FOOLS U GOT ME. GOOD ONE.
  • + 1
 If only it was...
  • + 3
 Well thats shit.
  • + 1
 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH tell me this is a joke!!!! Please.... please tell me this is a joke?
  • + 1
 I dont get why you would put a motor on something that a lot a people love because it doesnt have a motor?
  • + 2
 My Grandpa would be happy
  • + 2
 I thought we were mountain bikers not moto x riders
  • + 2
 aimed at the american market i presume?
  • + 2
 I'd rather have a shuttle buddy.
  • + 2
 the most comments I've ever seen!
  • + 1
 i love how much hate this thing is getting already, hopefully theyll catch on and realise its an awful idea
  • + 1
 i like the idea of assist bikes but this is easily one of the worst end products ive seen. Very poor execution..
  • + 1
 can that person in that video peddle if the bike is going slow,or does the bike do it for u
  • + 2
 good thing theyre using a kona!
  • + 1
 i also like how they don't picture the 35 pound battery you have to strap to your back to power the damn thing.
  • + 1
 You will be a lazy guy if you use one of those... Good physical condition is premium!!
  • + 1
 This is not mountin biking its less heavy more menuvreble dirt bikes fore people who are to lazy to go uphill
  • + 2
 all's i can say is......... BURN IT!! tup
  • + 2
 introducing the next generation of lazy downhillers!
  • + 1
 i think it quite a cool idea if i could take the big stupid motor off at the top bit pointless tho i cope pushing
  • + 1
 Only good if you can throw or drop the motor/battery all the way back down to the bottom. Something tells me the aluminum bash cage thing wouldn't put up with that kind of abuse.
  • + 0
 i think this is stupid, i see this for more of cross country road riders, not a downhill rider, why would we need a motor to go DOWN a hill, thats gravity's job....
  • + 1
 wtf ? f*ck the motors, leave the bicycles alone, get scooters u lazy people,
  • + 1
 I think Kawasaki, Suzuki, Honda, and Yamaha have this market cornered under the title dirt bike.
  • - 2
 1:too much added weight
2:you dont go very fast with it
3:batteries probably dont last long
4:Probably a huge wast of money
5:turns your dh bike into a dirtbike
6:takes the fun out of it
7:Its for lazy fat asses that love to ride with penus in there mouth
i dont see the shame of testing one tho i would personanaly like to try it but not buy it
  • + 1
 lol at the unwanted Razz
  • + 0
 Lol... this bike is good for people like me because it cost me 1 hour from my home to the trail and until i went there i get boored and very tired. If the price is not so high i probably will buy electric bike.It`s very nice.
  • + 1
 OMG you sound confused joe!
you tell us 7 reasons why its no good, then go on to say how you want to try it !?!?!?
  • + 1
 yeah just to try it and screw around like doing burn out and shite on it but i wouldnt use one i would just buy a dirtbike
  • + 1
 Give the batteries to my Mrs, she can put em to worthwhile use! Bloke looks like a propper pube!
  • + 1
 sucks, too much weight and takes away a part of fun! I rather get my selph a motorbike!
  • + 2
 Could be good to help adapt the sport for disabled riders.
  • + 0
 you can FUCK OFF
  • + 0
 fuck off
  • + 2
 Worthless. If you can't pedal, you can't ride.
  • + 1
 Downhill bikes remember? I think they've had a couple of them on this website before but don't quote me. 9" of travel, big ring up front and a road cassette - it's never going to go uphill well is it.
  • + 1
 beats the purpose of having a bike.might as well ride a dirt bike up it..instead of pedalling
  • + 2
 just makes america fatter
  • + 2
 This idea is miserable like the political ideas of our country
  • + 1
 It's a little early for April's fool... Don't you think? Come on guys, is this serious?
  • + 1
 Cool idea, just seems like it would be pretty heavy, and possibly get in the way of rocks that want to hit my frame XD
  • + 3
 White elephant !
  • + 1
 can't wait to rip that motor off on the first technical section I go through.... Worst idea for DH ive seen yet
  • + 1
 thats the gayest thing iv ever seen, we all wish for them sometimes but its embaressing that they actually made one.
  • + 1
 I would feel afraid to hit anything gnarly due to the fact that it could easily break
  • + 0
 I hate how the guy feels so satisfied at the top of the mountain.. Like that took him how much effort? Seriously? Give me a break.
  • + 1
 i thought bicycles idea was that it doesnt have a motor? so why the f*ck you do this shit!?
  • + 3
 No. Not buyin that.
  • + 0
 A motor on a 'downhill' bike... if i wanted a motor on a bike then, i'd buy a fricken motorbike! Not a good idea. I would break it so fast. It would just hurt the wallet.
  • + 2
 it had to be a kona....pedal energy is just fine!
  • + 1
 i know my downhill tracks are way to steep for that peice of shit to get up
  • + 2
 I guess engineering wise it's kind of a cool idea. Much past that... meh.
  • + 2
 This is the first step to turn us into the fat people from WAL-E.
  • + 1
 For fat and lazy guys yes. But this is not a mtb.
  • + 13
 Well it is a MTB without a doubt, and this is a predictable move, but it will take years or decades for this to catch on. Any half - serious DHer out there today will tell you this is ridiculous. This is ridiculous.
  • + 2
 yeah, it looks alot of fun to brap up the hillside on that. But it looks shit as anything and who is going to draw the line between motorbike and mountainbike ?
  • + 1
 This is never going to catch on. It may grow as a neiche market, but I can't see ever being more than that.

(In my opinion)
  • + 1
 @ andie I guess this would be classed as a moped.
  • - 3
 Tut. And I thought Konas couldn't get any worse..
  • + 2
 yeah i would agree. It will never be allowed in racing and people will just look like lazy idiots if they run it when riding trails so i doubt anything will happen. But if it didnt include a massive pack for your handlebars then it would be kinda funny just to try it out.
  • + 1
 don´t like this stupid stuff....Frown
  • + 1
 No! I can't believe you even have to ask!!!!
  • + 1
 it's like a car driving runner.
  • + 1
 It's a bike, so f*&%ing pedal it!
  • + 1
 and the XC riders call me lazy for pushing up
  • + 1
 Yay!!! It won't fit my bike!
  • + 2
 lame.
  • + 2
 wow thats just stupid
  • + 1
 Please! No! Just No! stop torturing me by making DH a lazy option!
  • + 1
 LOL
  • + 1
 man. now people cant be bothered to ride downhill?
  • + 1
 looks ugly probably weighs a bit and how does man up and pedal sound?
  • + 1
 maybe this is an early april fool's joke
  • + 0
 This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen for a bike. Especially for a DH bike.
  • + 1
 boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
  • + 1
 another thing the world don´t need!!
  • + 0
 ye this has to be the biggest pile shit ive seen for a long time, but its a gd thing for disabled people or slightly!!!
  • + 2
 where's the fun in that?
  • + 2
 what do you mean, it is no fun climbing with dh bikes... so i dk what fun this would take away...
  • + 0
 all the extra weight might have something to do with it...bet that thing weighs atleast 50lbs
  • - 1
 anno, it seems pointless, ir you wanted a motor on a bike then why not just buy a motorbike?
  • + 3
 becuase if you want to take that motor bike on dh trails then buy mountain bike with a motor.. i dont think people are getting the point of this.. its just to help u go up...
  • + 1
 yea but the extra 10-15 pounds in electronics would suck for the downhill part of your ride...and thats the best part. dont be lazy and push your damn bike
  • + 2
 ok so if you have lift acces at your freeride park, you gonna walk ur bike or just ride the lift, and do you think that becuase the chairlift(hypotheticly a chairlift) is small and attached to your bike and for personal use that your not being lazy..?
  • + 4
 I don't quite understand the huge amount of people who hate the concept of this system, yet are happy to ride the chairlift all day in Whistler or do shuttle runs? That's not counted as "cheating" and you are still exhausted after a full day of pure DH riding. In my opinion it will cost a huge amount of money and you will sacrifice excercise and handling of your bike. I wouldn't buy it.

However it's certainly got it's uses. The ability to access a huge amount of terrain that would otherwise take all day to hike to, and then hit it with fresh legs, feeling on top of your game, over and over again? I wouldn't turn down a chance to try it out. I've also had injuries in the past where it's been difficult to pedal but riding DH is fine. However because of the current system I'm off the bike for months.

A final thought, every major technological innovation in mountain biking has been met with skepticism when it has been introduced. If inventors didn't persevere through these accusations of "cheating" and taking the effort out of sports then we wouldn't have gears or full suspension bikes. Maybe this isn't the way forward but it's nice to see someone trying to innovate our sport.
  • + 1
 well i wouldnt buy it either, i live in florida, it would be a 100% useless product for me, and if idid move near mountains id move to newhampshire so i could ride highland and they have a chairlift..
  • + 1
 move....you live in FL. I MTB in FL and I moved...until you pushed a DH bike up a mountain on a regurlar basis your opinion is mute.
  • + 1
 i am moving as soon as it is possible.. but i do visit new hampshire and go riding with my uncle, and i have had to push my bike up the side of a mountain and it was absolute shit, i never thought i was going to reach the top... but for those trails you probably wouldnt be able to use this anyway becuase besides being a pretty steep slope, and sometimes like really reallly steep, like from 50 ft back it would look kind of like a wall(wall of rocks), anyway besides that, it was technical as hell, if there was one person that could pedal up that , i would eat my hat.. and i dont see how my opinion is mute, becuase if you've lived in florida then you know that all the riding is like waves, up , down , up , down , so still without a mountain, half the ride is a climb...i wouldnt mind having this actually now i think of it, all that repeat climbing is mega annoying, but i guess i shouldve bought a xc bike :-/...
  • + 1
 so basically you can cheat in races now....nice.
  • + 1
 when it breaks, who will repair the motor?
  • + 0
 This is not a great idea ...... this is not a real mountain biking use your man power......... this idea make's people lazy
  • + 1
 so Ego-Kits, that's a pretty resounding no!
  • + 1
 Will be giving this a miss!
  • + 1
 i thinks its great i hate pushing up hills
  • + 1
 then quit and get a 3 wheeler and let the real Dhers rip or stick to spandex XC ...if you actually think this crap has a place Downhilling, then i think that 'moss' has got into your mossyriders cranium and you have no idea of the skills it takes to do all the stunts OR flow because there is no way this can happen with a geriatric assist bike...
  • + 1
 It's a motor in Europe because od this 1200W engine Smile
  • + 1
 really? this is ridiculous!!
  • + 1
 This is not what biking is about, earn your ride
  • + 1
 it looks like a meccano set stuck to the frame haha
  • + 1
 NO WAI USING ELECTRIC THINGS ON DOWNHILL BIKE!!!!! THATS INSANE!!!!!
  • + 1
 i think it is neat but i just dont think it will take off
  • + 1
 What happens when you crash and it breaks? stupid idea
  • + 1
 How much does one off these cost :/
  • + 0
 E Go, should cause any real cyclist to lose their "E Go". How ridiculous. And why is he going so slow?
  • + 2
 eu vou comprar
  • + 1
 So much for German Ingenuity.
  • + 1
 love how everyone is hating on this idea but when im real old i wont one
  • + 1
 winnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • + 1
 it kinda defeates the perpus of mtb its just not rite
  • + 1
 This will destroy the mountain biking industry as we know it :C
  • + 1
 nah this is stupid i reckon!
  • + 1
 the whole point is to not have a motor on a bike:S
  • + 1
 Great toy for the motocross track not so much Moose Mountain
  • + 1
 Use your muscles, you lazy
  • + 1
 i saw something like this before o right they call it a dirt bike
  • + 1
 GAY!!!!!!!!! MAN UP AND RIDE UP!!!!!!
  • + 2
 One word - LAZY!!
  • + 1
 it has power enough to catch sam hill?! ahah
  • + 1
 Adjusting to fit American Needs
  • + 1
 looks like a bike of a old whore
  • + 1
 That is the gayest thing I think I've ever seen
  • + 1
 it's like uphilling for downhillers!
  • + 1
 This is just a stupid idea and it will add a ton of uneeded weight
  • + 0
 I'll be a purist bastard on this one. NO ENGINES ON BICYCLES, especially on dh bikes!
  • + 1
 Earn your run, don't be a lazy ****.
  • + 1
 check out this www.boosty.ch its only 2.2kg on bike
  • + 1
 A healthier and inexpensive solution: pedal/carry your bike up.
  • + 1
 "Earn your run"

Couldn't have said it better Smile
  • + 1
 uuuugly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • + 1
 and could you also place the battery weight a bit higher? oh, thank you..
  • + 1
 i think this defeats the whole purpose of DH
  • + 1
 that is for pussys stupid idea and it will add weight
  • + 1
 I'll take 2 please! With a skid plate!
  • + 2
 i agreee
  • + 1
 this is great where is no chairlifters, i whant one
  • + 1
 then just ride a XC or AM bike to the top instead of a freakin DH rig.
  • + 1
 too much easy going. result, no emotions. stop McDonaldization!!
  • + 1
 i would like to try it. It might be cool or it might suck lol
  • + 1
 props to the engineers and designers, but this product is not for me
  • + 1
 i think the motor will get smashed off..
  • + 1
 seriously!! to much s#*t up front to get in the way.
  • + 1
 this is just stupid ceriously altho i may get my grandad 1
  • + 1
 I dont like the idea of an electric bike, theres no fun
  • + 1
 Joke.. Good for lazy, weak guys... 'N i hate this noise -.-
  • + 1
 Crap like this is bad for the industry.
  • + 1
 missing the "not" from the above comment....my bad.
  • + 1
 Since when did powerwheels make a mountain bike?
  • + 1
 man!!! lets get lazy and fat at the same time ,
  • + 1
 what is the point of a bicycle now?stupidest idea ever.major garbage.
  • + 1
 these shouldn't be allowed ..
  • + 2
 EPIC FAIL !!!!!
  • + 1
 so...............................dumb.
  • + 1
 I would smash that elec. box on the dh trail. Its a form of cheating.
  • + 2
 why? do you compete on the way up?
  • + 1
 Electric cars, electric bikes .. what the f is wrong with this world?
  • + 2
 Electric cars development is a necessity. We will all need them soon. 1.For the sake of our wallets, 2.for the sake of environment. Elbikes are just stupid. Nobody needs them. They will never be useful, even the city el bikes.
  • + 2
 Even so with electric it is not always as good for the environment as you would think. I am presuming that these will use Lithium Ion batteries and they require a huge amount of energy to extract the ore's refine them for making the batteries, making the batteries, producing the motors and everything else that is required for the electric system to run. If you also include the cost to the environment of shipping all of these materials around the world several times from origin, to be produced, to get to the consumer and so on the cost is astronomical. Even after those costs, where does the electric come from?? It will inevitably come from your plug which is connected to the power supply, which comes from neuclear power (highly debated over environmental costs), or from gas, oil, coal and so on.

I think I remember a study which showed the cost to the environment for making the batteries for a Toyota Prius was the same as running a Hummer for 4 years. I personally think thats pretty poor.

I think electric will one day be necessary however, but technology hasnt improved enough to make it viable, hence why it hasnt fully caught on yet. Therefore a lot of money needs to be spent on R&D.

On another note, I would rather push to the top and be rewarded by the down on my mountain bike,
  • + 1
 And you all think that making electricity is ok for environment?
  • + 1
 It's not ok, but it is the simpliest way to achieve an alternative for oil. Electric engines are far more advanced than any other drive. Companies experiment with hydrogen but well when the petrol prices go up what is inevitable, and petrol fueled cars sales will go drasticaly down then industry will reach for the easiest and the fastest solution.

The way I see it, start getting used to collective traffic: trains, busses, cabs. And offcourse bike to work Smile Industry tries to convince us that they work on stuff and that we will be able to hold on to our dream of an own car (well for many it is not a dream it is a damn necessity to have two per house!). The fact is, more and more population chooses to live in the urbanized areas - we won't need own cars at all.
  • + 0
 Meh... The entire point of a mountain bike is to get away from electronics.
  • + 1
 XD don't have any word to discribe...
  • + 1
 thats like taking the engine out of a dirt bike and rolling down hills Blank Stare
  • + 2
 that's retarded!!!
  • + 1
 there's a sandwich in my heeead.....
  • + 1
 someone needs to tell the guy in the video that skids are for kids
  • + 1
 thats a fuckin bad idea !
  • + 1
 its a DOWNhill bike and u need electric assist???????????
  • + 1
 this is taking away form what biking really is.
  • + 1
 Ok for the old buggers out there that cant be f..d.
  • + 1
 they've ruined Kona Stab Supreme...
  • + 1
 This is the worst idea ever. it isnt even a bike anymore
  • + 1
 Get a damn dirt bike, If can`t shuttle or pedal.
  • + 2
 um... buy a dirt-bike.
  • + 1
 ganz ehrlich das ist was für pussy´s die nichts in den beinen haben!
  • + 0
 wow biking hit a new low. i thought it was lazy being sulltled up the hill. but this hit a brand new low.
  • + 1
 okay that is just plain stupid
  • + 1
 WTF is that!! If you don't wan't to pedal, BUY A MOTOCROSS!!!
  • + 1
 a bike with a motor.... a motor - bike i believe it would be called
  • + 1
 Isn't this kinda consitered cheating?
  • + 1
 no,you still pedal up instead of riding in your truck or on lifts.Isn't that cheating
  • + 1
 No thanks.........NEXT
  • + 1
 talk about lazy...jees!
  • + 1
 Monte de merda !
  • + 1
 good shout smike
  • + 0
 cool but kinda takes away half of the sport, well i guess not for downhill