Enduro: Points vs. Time

Aug 1, 2014
by Ashton Smith  
To me, enduro racing is all about finding the best all around rider. I am all for climbing stages, downhill, and even a chainless stage. Even for typical enduros there is quite a variety where one stage often outweighs the rest. For example, the Sea Otter Classic Enduro was a 2 minute DH, a 6 minute single track, and then an 18 minute climb. I personally was one of the top finishers in stages 1 and 2 and then lost it all in stage 3 coming in 7th place overall. When there is only a few second spread in one segment does that give unfair weight to a longer segment?

What if enduros were scored differently? What if, instead of stage times combined for a total time ranking, we did it by points? WC points (or any point system) would be given per stage and the total combined points determine the winner. In the case of a tie, the time total would come into play.

I see this as adding to the strategy of the game. We could have a much greater variety of stages in one race. I can imagine there would be a greater variety of bikes and gear depending on the course. Of course, this could shatter the idea of "enduro specific" choices, but maybe it would be good for the sport. What do you think?

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13 Comments

  • 1 0
 Think about sea otter or crankworx. Imagine if a dual slalom track was a stage of an enduro, along with the dh track, and then an xc loop. If only the combined time matters then there is no real advantage being the fastest slalom guy by 1/10th of a second. This win is huge for slalom, but would be made insignificant by the xc loop where there are much bigger gaps in time. By winning points for each, the XC wouldnt drown out the slalom results. Using points allows us to have extremely versatile enduros without having certain segments outweigh others.
  • 1 0
 Think about it if there was a stage of the enduro on the slalom course it would be completely insignificant winning by 0.3 seconds (which is big) when you bundle it up with a long climb segment where a normal gap between riders may be several seconds.
  • 1 0
 @gerrycreighton: okay... I'll mansplain it to you...
There's a 2 stage Enduro.

Stage one is a 90 minute pedally stage that would be best on a 100mm travel bike.

Stage 2 is a 1 minute absolute Savage DH course.

No matter how good you are at DH, your DH time is rendered useless in winning overall.

Even if you won stage one by a huge (10 second) gap, it would be worthless compared to the time spread of the 90 minute course.

If your time on each stage was treated like a single race and then all the points were added up ( like a series)
Then now you DH run holds weight equal to the XC stage.

Please tell me you now understand....

Now doing this we could have races with EXTREME variety that will make all stages equally weighted. So now it's up to you to figure out where you can make the most points.

Before, everyone would have take the XC bike and went slow down the DH course. But NOW maybe it makes sense to take the DH and win stage one and suffer on the other. Strategy!
  • 1 0
 Riders get points based on their finish position (just like scoring WC points for the series) It basically makes a multiple staged enduro race get scored like a mini series.
  • 1 0
 How are you determining points to give to riders? Timing is the only way to do it as you can go down to the 100th of second.
  • 1 0
 Riders get points based on their finish position (just like scoring WC points for the series) It basically makes a multiple staged enduro race get scored like a mini series.
  • 1 0
 That won't work as you'd need to have a mass start for each stage to determine placing. Otherwise how do you mark their finish position?
  • 1 0
 placing is based on time... are you joking or do you really not get it?
  • 1 0
 Then why do you need points? Just use the time. That's my point!
  • 1 0
 Have you raced enduro?
  • 1 0
 I race enduro on the east coast and run eastcoastenduro.com. I think I've been around enough enduro's and have discussed timing enough to have an opinion. Several years ago there was an enduro that tried to score a race on time and points several years...it didn't work and was confusing. As an example I placed higher on time but lower on points, doesn't make sense. It sounds like you are trying to reinvent the wheel or in this case a new type of enduro. I just happened to see this story and thought I'd give my 2 cents. I get having points earned for your place for an overall series but not for each event.
  • 1 0
 Also it then makes it competitive between disciplines. Which discipline is the better all around rider?
  • 1 0
 Have you raced enduro?

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