Enter to Win A Weldtite Prize Pack - Pinkbike's Advent Calendar Giveaway

 Home stretch @sewer-rat! Keep up the great work!

 @redshift: trying dude!

 @sewer-rat: killing it!

 @friendlyfoe:

 how would they police fake accounts? they can't even manage emojis..

 @tobiusmaximum: they could help limit it by making us add our full names, email, and a valid phone number. Any duplicate name, numbers, or non working numbers get thrown out

 @oregontradesman: how do you check if you won? I assume i'll just get an email? (not sure how you know the old winners though)

 @oregontradesman: Duplicate names probably wouldn't work as there are several people that share your first and last name

 You could have a condition of the contest be: 'reply to email within 3 days to be eligible to receive the prize' then if no reply move onto the next person

 This is Jeff Bezos fake account. I too want to win something, nobody gives presents to rich and famous people unless they want to film it to promote their shitty product. And that’s not nice

 It worked for the winner of the vitus bike.

 @oldfaith: really? So it was not a fake account. Or, it could still still be a second account. Do you know the answer to that?

 So Ocdmimi joins PB on the 4th of Dec this year and enters to win a prize. Yes I believe it to be fake because I would say a second account is fake, a third, fourth, thousandth account is fake.

 @oldfaith: so then how do you know that you worked for him?

 @oldfaith: does he have another account that you know about?

 You’re acting kinda nervous there 20060713.

 @oldfaith: if you Google the name OCDMIMI it looks like they are a pro comper, just entering loads of competitions. So I guess they just got really lucky.Can't really stop not MTBers from entering the advent competition.

 @oldfaith: I am just wondering how you know that you worked for him In the past. I think it is a funny coinsidense. What was the job that you did when you worked for him? (You don't have to answer that, just curious)

 @20060713: Dude he said 'IT' worked for him, not 'I'.

 @Tmackstab: no, he did not say him, he said "the winner" I assumed that he meant "i", as his statement is not grammerly correct, and I thought that that would be the most logical solution

 Grammerly ?

 @oldfaith:
Grammerly - the act of grammering.

 I just brush more and don't use cleaning products in my bike. Saves a lot of plastic. And no detergents into the soil either. Probably better for the bearings too.

 @ak-77:
Yes, good old water and a spounge works just fine.

 I've never found any mud that's not easily removed by just water (and a brush). Road grime or chain slap grease, yup, fair enough, but the rest of it, just don't need this stuff.
But we could do with a discussion about what really is the best way to clean your chain. Solvents just get rid of the really important lubrication between rollers and pins, that you can't get back without soaking your chain in a pan of lube. IIRC, kmc suggest not using them. Thoughts?

 Found the page:
Do not dip your chain in (aggressive) degreasers - they remove the remaining grease from the chain’s bearings, and may cause cracks. They are also bad for our environment.
If the chain is really dirty and difficult to clean, besides using a brush for the inside, try putting some solvent on a cloth and use it to clean the chain’s exterior.
Try to avoid a so-called ‘chain washing machine’ in combination with solvent. This will instantly ruin your chain

 @mountainsofsussex: The "chain washing machine" does work nicely with just water though. After all it doesn't do much more than rub the exterior of the chain.

And of course yeah, I doubt the black gunk wears the chain that much. It makes it sticky which slows you down, but I think the dust it contains is so fine that it doesn't grind. The more coarse grit doesn't stick to the chain anyway.

 @ak-77: This.
I have one of those gardener's aqua-sprayers you carry on your back on my garage, after a good winter ride I wash my bike with it and a brush, from spring to fall I barely wash it.

 @mountainsofsussex:
Here is a link to a full article on chain cleaning. There's options.

cyclingtips.com/2018/05/chain-cleaning-and-maintenance-how-to

 do u actually care about liquid in a frggen plastic bottle. not gonna change the world specially coz mtbers who buy this product make p no percentage of the world mebbe 0.000001 percent

 @AngusG: Google translate is drunk?

 @Chris97a: hmmm, interesting, and totally against what kmc recommend (other than the quick wipe-over). I am intrigued by those "chain in a pan of molten wax" lubes - think that's maybe the right answer after a periodic chain bath clean when the bike has got British winter muddy. This lot wasn't really a problem when we all ran cheap 10spd chains, rather than £40 Eagles..

 @mountainsofsussex:
One if the interesting pieces from this same series of articles was the interaction between certain lubes on different coatings applied by the manufacturer. For instance the DLC coating from kmc hated being waxed and sounded totally dry after a short period of time according to one of the articles. The main takeaway I got was if you so some work upfront you get a lower friction and longer lasting chain that wears out drivetrain parts much less quickly. They were suggesting that the difference could be as much as 5x drivetrain life.

 @Chris97a: I always wonder how much it even matters to have a chain perfectly clean if you're going to smash through a puddle within five minutes into your next ride and then crank on like that for two hours. Seems to me having it lubed properly is main priority. The first approach seems best to me. In fact I often first add lube, spin the cranks another few times to let the dirt float and only then wipe the chain. Effectively I use the lube as a cleaner. Either way as mentioned in the article, a chain cleaner device doesn't seem any worse to me than using a brush. What's nice about the device is that it contains a magnet that catches steel particles that come from the chain. Wouldn't do any harm having that.

I'm actually surprised to see they use such a wide shower type water spray to rinse things off. If you want to spray off detergent from the cassette (which likely contains lube) then you don't want that to land on the brake rotor. I know people don't like this one because it isn't powerful enough for getting your bike spotless, but I recently got this portable Karcher low pressure cleaner and actually like it. It has this thin spray pattern similar to what you'd use for spraying paint. So it is easy to rinse off sprockets without spraying places where you don't want to spray.

All this said, I still don't clean my bike often. Typically I do the lube the chain and wipe it off approach. Works very well for me.

 Have you not met any British people?

After living in England for 8 years I’m convinced there’s middle aged men who own cars simply for the pleasure of washing them.

There’s a mtb version of those guys.

 They get dirty pretty quick, you'd be surprised. I did some casual riding, then was like, "wow I'm surprised".

 I let it dry and flake off. On the living room floor.

 You don't need protective frame tape if you have a 1cm layer of dry mud all over your frame :thinkingguy

 Sorry I meant to upvote you