Video: 5 Carbon Enduro Bikes - Eurobike 2018

 Who doesnt love those hard and brutal bottom outs. You know, those ones where the frame is screaming mercy, you fear for you life that its just going to explode under you.

 I would like that. 160mm Enduro bike thats as playful as a 130mm Trail rig. It always depends from your point of view ????

 It's what you do with it that counts ;-)

 Hahaha.. Seriously didn't see that one coming.. Normally its a 140mm bike that feels like a 160mm bike~lmoa

 He says it’s 160, she says more like 130

 @chillrider199: Compare your name to what you just said.

But it should mean that its very versatile i think.

 Even better when they’re routed where no mud will ever be collected making a pain to clean off after a ride.

 Even better when there's a protector over them (ala Canyon and others) so it's both clean looking, clean of mud and easy to access!

 Gt

 @Milko3D: the Canyon system is definitely clean.

 ...or internaly routed in "sleeve" like on my Carbine - its 3min job for all cables and looks way nicer.

 When looking at the new Alutech Fanes, it really makes me wonder why some companies (even with internal cable routing) either have your rear mech cable and rear brake hose dangling lower than any taco could go (like a Rocky Mountain) or so high in the front triangle that only the PB reviewer doesn't see those bottle mounts are useless (like the new Santa Cruz bike).

That said, yes I prefer my cables on the outside too. Those who prefer dropper seatposts though may run out of luck though, as it seems there will be fewer and fewer dropper posts where the cable goes to the collar instead of to the bottom. 26" may not be dead, but it seems externally routed droppers are.

 @vinay: Ah, when it comes to droppers - I'd like them internally or at least partly-internally routed, please.

 @strormy: ms. Daniels, is that you..out of jail?

 Both Hideous

 The Polygon & Marin are the same bike.

 Its just the same rear end i think. Just like how other companies utilize VPP or DWlink

 Just the names are spelled differently because language

 And they painted them black to distract from the rear...

 Only the rear end is the same because of the suspension. Kinda like how some bikes have the same fork...

 Polygon has 180mm, Marin Wolf Ridge has 160mm. Not the same bike... just same suspension design.

 @mtbikeaddict: and the polygon rides like a 160mm trail bike

 Can't wait NOT to ride either of them!

 Built in reach adjust is sick. Very few offer that on trail bikes.

 Clean looking bike... That cable routing down the center of the downtube will be toast in a week though.

 And a pain in the ass to clean with crusted mud trapped under and around the cables. They should have taken it a bit further like Canyon did and put a simple cover over the cable channel. That way it still has easy access but is protected from the elements. Best of both worlds.

 cable channel will be full of mud and scratched up paint where it'll get behind the cables and rub, not real clever im thinking

 @MrMentallo: a cover may be better. To be honest though I use a mudguard when it's wet (rockguard) and little mud gets onto the downtube.

 @betsie: yes, a one piece cover/rockguard with rubber gaskets at the top and bottom. I want a rock guard anyway(after my intense 951 pop can experience a $60 “rockguard” more than pays for itself). Besides that, these bikes are dialed. Sweet features and numbers. Wonder how durable ns bikes are and how is their customer service?

 @won-sean-animal-chin: there are some local guys who are fast who ride the NS's and really like the way that they handle, they have not had any complaints about the bikes so not sure what the CS is like.

 @betsie: nice thanks. I’ve been looking at them since the snabb started. We just don’t see many around here. Used to see hardtail dirt jump bikes from them occasionally

 I would think very hard about a 134 29er frame in carbon. Way slacker and longer than a Satori and not too much travel for my riding style in our locale.