Factory Tour: Formula Brakes

Jan 13, 2015
by Matt Wragg  
We tour Formula brakes.

"Disc brakes literally revolutionized the mountain bike wheel." Those are the words of our tech editor, RC, on the development of the hydraulic disc brake. It is hard to overstate how much they changed the way we ride bikes - and anybody who hasn't slid down a muddy downhill course with no bite at all from their brakes will struggle to comprehend just how much better things are today because of disc brakes. There is a second significance to their development though - it was the first major breakthrough for mountain bikes that came from Europe. While you can debate the lines of influence of the birth of our sport, the fact is that modern mountain biking as we recognize it hails from the Marin pioneers in the late 1970s. Much of the template that the bikes we ride now hail from that period, emerging from California or Colorado, with advances that we take for granted today, like fat tires or the suspension fork. The disc brake was the first European breakthrough to permanently alter that template.

It was a small, Italian company who introduced the first hydraulic disc brake to mountain biking back in 1993 - Formula. Tucked away in the back streets of the town of Prato, nestling on the edge of the Tuscan hills, it seems an unlikely home for such an innovation. Like much of early mountain biking, its roots lie in our sport's nearest motorized relation - trials. Company founder, Andrea Beccoci, looked at the brakes on his motorbike and began not only asking why they weren't available for a mountain bike, but working on practical ways to make it a reality. While their product line may have evolved and expanded over the years, one thing has not changed - Formula still handle a lot of their production in-house in Italy.

The production of Formula brakes.
  Formula's headquarters are an unassuming industrial unit, tucked just behind Prato's Chinatown. As the business grew over the years they also took on a second unit some 15 minutes out of town where the heavier machining takes place.

The production of Formula brakes.
The production of Formula brakes.
  A shy man who prefers to stay out of the limelight, Andrea Becocci insists that we should not talk about him because he is the company's past and he wants to look to the future. Like many of the European mountain bike pioneers his roots are in trials, which he has been involved with since the 1970s.

The production of Formula brakes.
  This is how the major parts of their Italian-made brakes arrive at the Formula factory. They don't do the forging themselves in-house, but all their aluminum parts are forged nearby in Italy. For magnesium parts, like their fork lowers and the bodies of their The One brakes, they admit that they have to get that done in the Far East, because it's just too expensive to get it done in Italy as things stand. While the outer form looks recognizable at this stage, forging doesn't produce the intricate shapes within the body that make up the cylinders, threads and fitments.

The production of Formula brakes.
The production of Formula brakes.
The production of Formula brakes.
  For those intricate shapes, the raw parts head to the CNC machine - what's impressive with the Formula set-up is the sheer size and capacity of the machines; it's bigger than many of the Far East factories use even.

The production of Formula brakes.
  Before and after. To give you some idea of the extent of the work done by the CNC machines, on the right is the raw piece and on the left you can see where the threads have been cut in, the cylinders milled out to the precise tolerances and surfaces faced to mount the brake.

The production of Formula brakes.
The production of Formula brakes.
  After machining, the parts are polished en mass.

The production of Formula brakes.
  The final step at this stage of production is that the pieces are all checked and hand-finished.

The production of Formula brakes.
  Production then shifts to the assembly area at the headquarters in Prato.

The production of Formula brakes.
  Development of the first disc brakes hinged on two factors that needed to be addressed to introduce the motorcycle technology to mountain bikes. The first, obvious one, is the mounting - how do you physically attach the brakes to the frame and wheels? Second is maybe less apparent, but equally critical - hoses. What was common on motorbikes was simply too heavy for a mountain bike, so one of Alberto's real breakthroughs was to realise that the hydraulic hoses used in industrial cranes were lighter, but robust enough for the job.

The production of Formula brakes.
The production of Formula brakes.
The production of Formula brakes.
  With the size and delicacy of the pieces being assembled, the brake lines are all put together by hand.

The production of Formula brakes.
The production of Formula brakes.
  While the main lines are hand-assembled, Formula's proprietary Speed Lock system that allows easy detachment and removal of brake lines is done by machine. We weren't allowed to take photos of the machine from a distance - they are quite secretive about it because they developed it themselves. Although Italian engineering may have a reputation for artistry rather than technical innovation, Formula go a long way to breaking that stereotype. Throughout production they have unique machines, designed by Alberto and his team to tackle the exacting demands of their products.

The production of Formula brakes.
The production of Formula brakes.
The production of Formula brakes.
  Because the levers and calipers are slightly less fiddly much of the production has been robotised, again a rather un-Italian approach to industrial processes.

The production of Formula brakes.
  Machines are not trusted for the final steps of the lever and caliper assembly though, and it is a person who does the final stages and checks the assembly.

The production of Formula brakes.
The production of Formula brakes.
  Once assembly of the individual elements is complete they are laser marked, not only for the logos, but to add a QR code that records the batches the elements came from and tracks it throughout its life beyond the factory.

The production of Formula brakes.
The production of Formula brakes.
  Final assembly is another hand process, attaching the levers, lines and calipers together.

The production of Formula brakes.
The production of Formula brakes.
  Fully assembled brakes are then taken downstairs for the last step in their production - adding the oil to the system.

The production of Formula brakes.
The production of Formula brakes.
  With the brakes themselves ready, it's just the discs that are needed to complete the system. For their high end brakes Formula use two part discs, so there is some float to help them stay true as the metal expands under the heat of hard braking. The outer part is stamped, while the centre is forged, then machined at their second building.

The production of Formula brakes.
The production of Formula brakes.
  It is slightly less secret than the Speed Lock machine, but the machine for joining the parts of the discs together is another unique creation devised by Formula. It drives rivets into the joins, but not so tight that it takes the float out of the disc.

The production of Formula brakes.
The production of Formula brakes.
  With brake and disc complete, the pair are then either shipped out to customers, or end up here with Otto (below) and Bomba (above) for prepping for Formula's athletes.

The people of Formula.
The people of Formula.
The people of Formula.
The people of Formula.
The people of Formula.
The people of Formula.
The people of Formula.
  The face of Formula. While many of their products aren't the cheapest out there, a big part of what you pay for is having people who care about the company and the products they make as much as the people at Formula clearly do.


Mentions: @Formula-Italy


133 Comments

  • 132 0
 absolutely love these kind of articles
  • 11 0
 same, that's the 1st I've seen of their factory, made with precision for sure Big Grin
  • 8 0
 Is that a four-piston caliper I see? Just below the "Final assembly" photo, on the left????
  • 13 10
 worst bleed port position on a lever I have ever worked on..
  • 3 0
 yeah they're a bit of a pain to bleed, but once they're bled they feel amazing, I had a set of 2012 rx's and they were great on the old bike, but then my new bike was a fair bit heavier and the single piston's didn't have enough power on the steep stuff so I moved to zees. I noticed the quad piston picture too, I'll definitely be looking at trying them when they come out.
  • 4 0
 @karrot989 @kabanosipyvo The four piston caliper pictured is a moto brake.
  • 1 0
 Love seeing these types of articles, lit bit of history, little bit of tour and a little advertising. A good balance for the enthusiast.
  • 3 1
 factory tours = best articles on PB
  • 1 0
 Very cool to see the factory and how these brakes are made. I have been running Formula brakes for a while now and I continue to be impressed with how good they are. If you ride them you already know how they perform. Certainly worth a look if you are unfamiliar with them...you won't be disappointedSmile

Keep up the good work guys!!!!

Ryan
  • 26 1
 its nice to see them brake all the stuff that happens in the factory down
  • 19 2
 I hope they don't put a stop to production of these great products anytime soon, that sure would be breaking news.
  • 29 4
 that would be discgraceful
  • 22 2
 The author of this piece sure rotor great article to go along with the pictures.
  • 11 3
 HutchJR: Your "discgrace" was so sly that I had to pump the brakes as I was scrolling down to be able to see what you did there; such a fluid way with words.
  • 15 1
 You guys need to slow down with all the puns.
  • 8 1
 alright break it up, this pun party needs to stop
  • 10 1
 do you not zee what we did there?
  • 8 1
 Personally I'm Avidly awaiting some more good puns.
  • 8 0
 You need more practice with your puns young PADawan.
  • 4 2
 You guys are all Saints and should be stopped from disc cuss in your brake failures
  • 5 0
 This article has some Juicy information
  • 8 0
 I've come to expect a high caliper of tomfoolery in these threads, but this one might be getting a little mis-Guided.
  • 8 0
 there seems to be a certain Formula that all these pun comments follow
  • 10 0
 My girlfriend said make a choice- her or a new Formula System. I told her we are breaking up.
  • 6 0
 You guys have to stop padding the comments section with all these puns.
  • 5 21
flag PsychosisTripper (Jan 13, 2015 at 16:32) (Below Threshold)
 Fuck formula
  • 7 0
 I Hope this becomes a serious disc-ussion about hose got the best brakes, but I canti belever it will.
  • 3 0
 stop this brakeless conversation
  • 7 0
 any formula brake is the one for me.
  • 2 1
 haha^^
  • 4 0
 My math teacher was pretty excited when I told him I finally got the formulas dialed. It wasn't so funny when he realized how sick my bike now looks but a big frowney face on my test....
  • 1 0
 My Chemistry teacher did not believe me I put some Oro (in Spanish) on my bike.
  • 2 0
 I hope i get a lucky brake soon
  • 5 0
 These puns have been bled dry
  • 3 0
 Yeah this thread is just getting piston. No respect. The puns just don't seem organic anymore... sorry I just had to squeak that one out.
  • 2 0
 XTop will ya !!
  • 12 2
 I've only ever ridden formula, Oros on fr bike and The One on dh bike - even their Oro (low range) has perfect levers and amazing stopping with the 203 rotors.. I've also been amazed at the lack of maintenance they've required.. although I bet writing this will cause something!
Plenty of manufacturer options for pads which is handy too , Great to see the factory! keep up the great work
  • 3 0
 I have Oro K18 which was the lowest possible ranged brake on their line up (still not cheap however) and I absolutely love it. Words that come to my mind with Formula brakes are "power", "modulation", "lightweight". I haven't experienced any problems with them as well. Only if they managed to build more comfy levers for people with small hands. Even in the closest position of the lever it's still not close enough to the handlebar, so at some stage of using it you just have to get used to it.
  • 1 0
 I have the RO's on my dh bike. theyre wickedly powerful and have awesome modulation (so damn powerful!!!). i have to agree about the levers though. even when they were wound in as far as they could go, i felt like they were just a touch to far out. i bought some aftermarket pushrods that fixed this problem off another pinkbike user (Username: Carlos). they work awesome and now i have a really light, super powerful set of brakes that just feels perfect!
  • 1 0
 I had TheOne's for 4 years and am now on the RX. They seem even better. Along with the benefits noted above, I was able to use an Avid bleed kit when the need (infrequently) arose. About the only drawback is that they go through pads pretty quickly.
  • 2 1
 switched from XO to The Ones last season, I'm amazed. I don't think I'll ever ride another brake.
  • 14 3
 Am I the only one who does not like these brakes at all. Removing levers to bleed the brakes... Inconstant lever feel... OEM spec'ed ones feel like total garbage...
  • 3 1
 I've got your back @lance-h. I took some off my bike and replaced them with Deores. And it seems all those in the know in New Zealand feel the same way. I've been trying to flick off my Formula brakes for a year, and no one wants them, even for $250NZD for both ends, and these things sell on Chainreaction for about that price PER end.
  • 2 0
 I'm with stupid!
I have ridden RX on a Carbon Stumpjumper and hugged almost every tree in front of me. Gave them another go, still terrible. Mind you, the S-Works Stumpjumper is a very light bike, yet nothing, absolutely no stopping power what so ever. My DH bike, which is 18,03 kg with '14 SLX stops on a dime!
Also, am I the only one who thinks they have zero lever feel? My best description for Formula lever feel would be Tektro IO on full squeeze, and I mean 500% of your body power, energy and soul going for that one stop!
  • 4 1
 I have R1s and while power and weight are incredible, the modulation sucks. When things get wet and slippery I am really careful with picking my braking spots and I ride freaking XC/Trail. I tried T1s with 200mm rotors for a moment and I can only assume that those are freaking deadly.
  • 3 0
 Formulas require a bit more work when shortening the hoses compared to other brakes. Most companies don't take the time to learn how to properly do that and end up messing it up on OEM specs. If you have ever ridden after market Formulas you would be pretty stoked.
  • 5 0
 Trimmed hoses, upgrade to DOT 5.1 and the brakes still feel inconsistent at best. Bleeding ten brakes in a row, and having barely any feel the same after identical bleed procedures... I've bled at least 500 brakes last year and these always came up as issue brakes like the avid Elixr. I just wish mtb brake companies could give all shops some sort of magic information that allowed for all of there brakes to function properly after bleeding.
  • 1 0
 I bought some T1's and they leaked through the pots, the dude from crc said mine weren't the first with that problem, they gave me a full refund so bought some more Hope's. I only tried Formula after reading the reviews and I fancied a change from Hope.
  • 2 0
 @lance-h Formula specifically request DOT4 ONLY (preferably DOT4 Super) to be used when bleeding their brakes, as mixing the fluids can cause issues with the rubber seals used internally, which could be a reason why the brakes haven't felt as good as others you have serviced?
  • 2 0
 The DOT upgrade is a big factor, actually. If you change hoses, then yes, but if not, then you will hardly see improvement. DOT 5 has a different base from the 3 and 4, silicone I think, and we all know what that does to rubber Smile
  • 1 0
 Very polarizing brakes. "Best I've ever had". "Worst things ever".

Perhaps HR needs to find the disgruntled part-time employee that is wiping butter on the discs or filling them with cool-aid rather than braking fluid.

Looking at the employee pictures I'm thinking it's the guy left top row or middle bottom row...
  • 1 0
 eggsandb - this is what I heard from my friend who is a bike mechanic when I asked him whether it is a good idea to buy Formulas R1. He said - if they work, they are awesome, they are incredible, but if you get a wrong model, they suck big time and you need to spend lots of cash to make them work, which usually means getting a new master cylinder wih no guarantee that this one will be ok.
  • 1 0
 I bought my T1's after reading all the reviews but I got a bad set, which seems to be quit common by the sounds of it.
CRC gave me a full refund after nearly a year and I had sold the rotors when they were new and changed the hoses, I wasn't expecting a full refund.
They got their money back with in an hour, I bought some purple Hope's, V4 on the front and E4 rear. Ive got old M4's on my hardtail, 3 different 4 pot Hope calipers which all take different pads.
I was damn lucky that the formula's were crap, im a Hope freak and I would have to have purple brakes.
My brakes: DH- tech lever, mono6
'Enduro'- tech3 v4/e4
hard tail- race m4
trials- mono trail front only
old school- pro c2's, 1999 and still working (just)
Which could explain my Hope fetish, also my bulb hubs are still going strong after 16 years.
  • 1 0
 Dot 5.1 can be used in any Dot 4 FYI
  • 2 0
 DOT 5 is a silicone base, DOT 5.1 is not. DOT 5.1 is an excellent substitute, and a higher quality brake fluid than DOT 4.
  • 1 0
 Thanks, forgot there was a .1 after the 5 Big Grin
  • 1 0
 5.1 is different to 4, hence why they have different names! Certain brakes (Avid and Hope) can use both fine, however Formula's are 4 only, due to the material used on seals etc. If all DOT4 is purged from the system, brand new, fresh internals fitted, and new hoses fitted, then 5.1 can be used, but what would be the point, use DOT 4 Super, which has the same boiling point as 5.1 and enjoy riding Italy's finest!
  • 1 0
 Sorry bro you obviously know Formula brakes better than they do.
  • 10 3
 Nice read and good to see so much of the process. Very happy with my RO's which are more powerful, better modulation, lighter and a nice lever than my Hope Tech's.
Keep up the good work Formula Smile
  • 2 0
 yeee
  • 4 9
flag HutchJR (Jan 13, 2015 at 12:13) (Below Threshold)
 although you will find out that the good will not last very long :'(
  • 2 0
 My formula's have needed zero maintenance over 2+ years and are plenty strong, however I do wish there was more modulation...there isn't really much at all, maybe their higher end brakes are better for that.
  • 4 4
 i have the RO on one bike but maybe its just me but they have been terrible ... much prefer avid codes and guid rs'
  • 2 0
 I've hard my Formula's for over 2 years now and they're perfect, have a huge bite point and never even needed to change the brake pads.. Hands down the best brakes I've ever tried !
  • 2 1
 Yeah the RO's weren't my favorite. I had them on my DH bike for a season, no modulation and just overall not enough stopping power for racing. I went to Saint and I'm never going back. I think Formula needs to develop a quad-piston brake sometime.
  • 6 3
 Worst brakes I've ever had, I get em working good an by the end of my ride they've gone bad again. Way too much maintenance an expense. Pads wear out super fast But they are light........
  • 2 0
 Also i had a piston get stuck pretty quickly in the front caliper and I had to rebel it myself. They are a pain to tear down...
  • 1 0
 i melted a pair of formulas on a 3 mile descent... i know they weren't top of the line formulas... but the fact that they melted and the piston was fully seized... left a bad taste in my mouth.
  • 1 0
 @tim-from-pa mine had the exact opposite problem.. too much modulation, so much so that it was a very long lever stroke before the back wheel would lock. From new, had them rebled, still rubbish...
  • 1 0
 Well, I've had 2012 Formula RX, and have 2012 Formula The One currently on my DH bike, and they've both been 100% reliable, the RX did get some brake fade on big Morzine descents, ordinarily plenty powerful, but The One are excellent. For reference I prefer The One to my brother's 2013 Saints, think it's got plenty enough power myself.
  • 1 0
 the only trouble i had on my rx's on my dh bike was needing rebleeding a couple of times after i swapped calipers to ones with a different colour piston cover.

other than that my first set were spot on for 2 years and my only got changed because i found a new set on sale from germany for less than a service/rebuild kit.

i really do love these brakes but i'm tempted to try RO's

even riding pila including 2 trips down the 13k descent the only issues i had was wearing out my pads.
  • 10 1
 Nice to see they have a good formula for making brakes.
  • 10 11
 You formulated it nicely!
  • 1 2
 Hopefully this isn't taken as ageist or racist, but it's reassuring to see a factory with some seasoned looking employees. I've been in the Fox factory before and was surprised to see the general level of youth operating their machinery and handling their assembly. The demographic was also one that made me wonder how much written or spoken English skill they had.
  • 3 1
 I think you should take that up with FOX if it is a huge concern of yours! As far as the Written and spoken English skill goes; I don't think English is required to build forks and shocks, just a mechanically inclined mind (or proper instruction). So, yeah, I'd say your racist!
  • 3 0
 @bvd453, how is your comment relevant at all to the comments above it, or are you just trying to get your comment higher up in the queue? That is not a formula for success.
  • 15 10
 these brakes cost me a collarbone if you know what I mean ... Shimano 4EVER !
  • 12 0
 sorry im not rich enough to really know, but i can imagine..
  • 9 1
 you sir are panic breaker , learn to control your urges Smile
  • 1 0
 Just bought a new pair of t1s 2013+2 180mm disc,costed only 140euro Big Grin
  • 1 0
 @EnduroFan
A friend of mine just did the same here. He adores Formula, then again, he has never gone fast on his bike. I had the 2012 for a day and sent them back, I hope yours treat you good!
  • 1 0
 its all anout ros or the ones ...
  • 3 0
 Formula is pretty nice. I've ridden the RO's and MEGA brakes, both on my DH bike with 203MM rotors. They were pretty nice, but the single set of pistons just didn't cut it... Shimano still wins.
  • 4 1
 2 years with oro k24 and 2 years with R0. Great brakes... when they worked. They needed constant servicing (pads reset, piston cleaning, bleeding etc).

Switched to xt and saint in my bikes and never looked back.
  • 3 0
 That's all very spiffing and all. It doesn't change the fact that if their brakes weren't OEM they would hardly sell any aftermarket. Would you choose Formula over Shimano or the new SRAM Guides??
  • 3 0
 Considering my experience and price range: NO!

My 2014 bike came stock with formula C1 brakes
powerful yes, but ON/OFF style modulation, very soft feel at the lever even after rebreeding, fragile body, malfunction of rear brake after 1st month of riding…
Changed for Guide R as I was always fun of Avid modulation over Shimano power.
  • 1 0
 Good stuff. I have the new Guides and they are amazing brakes. Better than my Shimano Xts which really surprised me.
  • 2 0
 Oh yeah I would love to see you rebreeding a brake. That typo made me chuckle lol
  • 1 0
 You would be surprised at what happens when you gene splice a juicy 7 lever to current code calipers. All my brakes are thoroughbreds. Wink
  • 2 0
 Big Grin Big Grin I wish my Guides would breed, I shall start a brake farm..
  • 1 3
 Yes. Have done it on several bikes. Replaced both Saints and XTRs with ROs, more power, more modulation, and far better reliability.
  • 2 0
 Enjoyed reading the article. However, the formula brakes that came on my bike were noisy and unreliable. In the end they were sent for repair under warranty after failing on a fairly steep descent, leaving me hugging a tree. Bought XTs and never looked back.
  • 1 0
 I had RX, awesome when they worked but they are pads for fun, had to send two back to Italy due to master cylinder expanding (they blamed it on heat they encounter in transport???) and to top it off they needed bleeding once a month.
But they were good when working and I would try them if they came on a complete bike I buy again
  • 1 0
 I've had only good experiences with formula brakes, I like the way sets across the range use the same pads , that way i only need to get one set for my XC , AM or DH bike... sweet. I have also been crazy careful bleeding them , bought the avid pro bleed kit , take the brakes off the bike and take it real slow following a good guide. Then they feel like new , I have heard so many bleed horror stories though....
  • 4 0
 Formula brakes are very good but hope are the daddy!
  • 1 0
 I'd say the K24's I had were on par with Hope brakes for lever feel and power, never gave me any problems. Interesting article on their production... More like this please PB!
  • 3 0
 First thing that came to my mind when I read "Inside Formula" was "Air"
... hate bleeding formulas...
  • 1 0
 I ride formula rx on my xc bike, they are precise and very mighty...I'm curious to try em on DH. I only had a problem with the lever screw which is locked....anyone had the same problem?
  • 2 2
 What? No token shot of the raw, unfinished pieces with a measurement caliper strategically placed? Guess the picture of the upturned palm gingerly holding some lever bodies will have to do.
  • 1 0
 I guess, you sold your collarbone on the black body parts market to by a new brakes for your bike. They are expensive, I agree.
  • 1 0
 Has anyone else noticed there is Formula brakes and then there is a completely different called Formula as well out of Asia that makes cheap hubs?
  • 1 0
 are you sure they are not the same Formula? Fair enough they make their brakes in house but the hubs are probably Novatec's branded up as Formula.
  • 1 0
 I dunno. Are www.formula-italy.com and www.formulahubs.com the same company?
  • 1 0
 ok, you are right. I never bothered looking into Formula hubs because King make the best hubs
  • 1 0
 Yeah, along with DT Swiss, Kappius and Hope. I would never buy Formula hubs...
  • 1 0
 I love mine. Two bikes with the ones, and one with ro. Bleeding kind of sucks, and I seem to be an expert at bending levers, but well worth it.
  • 1 0
 I rated my formula brakes but both sets I had leaked on the lever housing so switched to Saint brakes but would love another set of formulas
  • 1 0
 For all who have problems to bleed Formula Brakes : www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GEk1IaKqRk

It's not so hard, you just need the good method !!
  • 4 3
 Good post highlighting the makers of some of the worst brakes to be released recently
  • 4 0
 I would say magura takes that cake.
  • 2 0
 I would also slightly agree with you on that. I was specifically talking about the C1's but Magura is not much better. Plastic bleed "bolts"?¿!
  • 3 0
 Yep, the C1s I've felt have all been super squishy. But the Magura MT6s I owned for a year were consistently inconsistent, and when I tried to bleed them, the threads in the master cylinder came out with the bleed screw...twice.. after the second master cylinder warranty I sold those things dirt cheap and bought a set of XTs and BOOM, no problems.
  • 1 0
 I love these articles. Nice to see the people and machines behind the parts.
  • 3 1
 all I say is that R1 brakes absolutely SUCK
  • 1 0
 Would you rather trust a fiat (formula) , ford (avid) or a honda (shimano)? Seriously; who else has noticed the similarity?
  • 2 0
 I'd choose reliant(hope)
  • 1 0
 @Matt wragg this is the best article I've read on pinkbike this year. Keep em coming.
  • 1 0
 regolarita is not trials. This is.. enduro.
  • 1 0
 are these cuberdons in the red machine ? Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Yummy!
  • 1 0
 So where are their hubs made? No sign of them in this article.
  • 3 0
 Different company, formula hus are an Asian company with nothing to do with Formula Italy
  • 1 0
 where do they make baby food?
  • 1 0
 Thanks, now I know why my Formula hubs were heavy and, er, let's say, "not so strong". Already changed them, by the way. Anyone, best hub for the money? Shimano hubs good or not?
  • 1 0
 My old Formula brakes still working like a charm! great product.
  • 1 0
 a pain to bleed, but damn they're worth it!
  • 1 0
 are their Forks manufactured in house?
  • 1 0
 Well F^%&... now I have to buy a Formula brake kit... Big Grin
  • 1 0
 I'm very satisfied!! I love Formula brakes!!
  • 1 1
 Someone else saw Dave Watson?
  • 1 0
 Interesting. Thanks!
  • 1 2
 Love my shimano brakes!





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