Final Results from the Maribor DH World Cup 2021

Aug 15, 2021
by Ed Spratt  
Vali Holl winning qualifying once again


The results are in from an amazing third round of the 2021 DH World Cup in Maribor.

Jackson Goldstone kicked off racing today by taking his second World Cup win after his first at the last round in Les Gets. Jordan Williams couldn't quite match the top speed today and crossed the line in second, 0.387 back. Repeating the same top three as Les Gets, Lachlan Stevens-McNab finished the weekend in third place. Impressively Jackson Goldstone's winning time would have been good enough for fifth place in yesterday's Elite Men's qualifying.

The Junior Women's racing saw another repeat victory from Les Gets as Phoebe Gale, once again, set the fastest time of the day. Phoebe was able to pull ahead of second place with a 0.791 gap to Izabela Yankova. Closing out the top three was Aina Gonzalez Grimau, sitting just over five seconds back.

The Elite Women's racing provided some incredible riding, with Myriam Nicole besting the tricky course. Eleonora Farina laid down a flat out run to take second place with a 1.322 second gap from the leader. Camille Balanche finished off the top three riders backing up a first and third place at the first two rounds this year. It was another tough day for Vali Höll. After qualifying first, she couldn't find the top race pace and ends the day in sixth.

It couldn't have been more dramatic in the Elite Men's racing as the lead changed hands for every one of the final four riders. In the end, it was Loris Vergier who was finally able to show his incredible speed as he took the win by 1.7 seconds. Thibaut Daprela backed up his win in Les Gets with a second-place finish. At one point, it even looked like he was going to take another victory today. Laurie Greenland put down one of the wildest runs we have seen this week and found himself finishing in third place.

Check out the full results below.



Results:


Elite Women


1st. Myriam Nicole: 3:35.909
2nd. Eleonora Farina: 3:37.231
3rd. Camille Balanche: 3:39.103
4th. Monika Hrastnik: 3:40.402
5th. Tahnee Seagrave: 3:40.406


Elite Men


1st. Loris Vergier: 3:05.064
2nd. Thibaut Daprela: 3:06.819
3rd. Laurie Greenland: 3:07.904
4th. Greg Minnaar: 3:07.986
5th. Loic Bruni: 3:08.078



Junior Women


1st. Phoebe Gale: 3:53.968
2nd. Izabela Yankova: 3:54.759
3rd. Aina Gonzalez Grimau: 3:59.065
4th. Sophie Gutoehrle: 3:59.148
5th. Gracey Hemstreet: 4:00.016


Junior Men


1st. Jackson Goldstone: 3:12.122
2nd. Jordan Williams: 3:12.509
3rd. Lachlan Stevens-McNab: 3:15.192
4th. Remy Meier-Smith: 3:16.582
5th. Tristan Lemire: 3:16.623




Full Results:

Elite Women


Elite Men


Junior Women


Junior Men




Live Race Updates:


6:37 am PDT

Loris Vergier finally gets a clean run and shows his incredible speed as he wins the Maribor World Cup!



6:34 am PDT

Thibaut Daprela smashes the top time set by Laurie Greenland and takes the fastest time by over a second!



6:30 am PDT

It's now Laurie Greenland who takes the lead after the wildest run we have seen so far.



6:27 am PDT

Greg Minnaar goes fastest by 0.092 seconds!



6:21 am PDT

With five riders left the current top five Elite Men is:

1st. Loic Bruni: 3:08.078
2nd. Benoit Coulanges: 3:08.455
3rd. Luca Shaw: 3:08.799
4th. Danny Hart: 3:09.081
5th. Angel Suarez: 3:09.814



6:13 am PDT

Loic Bruni goes fastest! It was looking like Benoit Coulanges' time was unbeatable, but a flat out run from Bruni puts him fastest by 0.377 seconds.



6:06 am PDT

Luca Shaw goes green at every split but he can't hold the lead to the line as he goes 0.344 back and into 2nd place.



6:03 am PDT

With 10 riders left the current top five Elite Men is:

1st. Benoit Coulanges: 3:08.455
2nd. Angel Suarez: 3:09.814
3rd. Dan Slack: 3:10.502
4th. Remi Thirion: 3:11.624
5th. Brook MacDonald: 3:11.795



6:02 am PDT

Dan Slack has a wild run to just slot into the top three, two seconds back from the fastest time.



5:56 am PDT

Andreas Kolb clearly doesn't need the chain as he still manages to cross the line in fourth place, 3.563 seconds off the time of Coulanges.



5:54 am PDT

Andreas Kolb has lost his chain after coming out of the rock garden.



5:52 am PDT

Brook MacDonald was charging hard but he loses a lot of time at the bottom of the course and finishes three seconds back in third place.



5:41 am PDT

Angel Suarez comes the closest to Benoit Coulanges' time so far as he goes 1.359 seconds back and into 2nd place.



5:37 am PDT

It's a crash for Mark Wallace as he slips out in the thick dust. With a small crash, Mark Wallace finishes his run in 31st place.



5:33 am PDT

A huge crash for Connor Fearon as his front wheel slides in one of the big compressions. Connor is back up and looks to be okay.



5:31 am PDT

With 20 riders left the current top five Elite Men is:

1st. Benoit Coulanges: 3:08.455
2nd. Henry Kerr: 3:12.358
3rd. Phil Atwill: 3:12.594
4th. Davide Palazzari: 3:13.077
5th. Tuhoto-Ariki Pene: 3:13.155



5:28 am PDT

Benoit Coulanges smashes across the line with a nearly four-second gap to Henry Kerr. Benoit's time is very close to the top qualifier from Loris Vergier.



5:15 am PDT

Despite losing over a second in the fourth split, Henry Kerr goes fastest by just 0.236 seconds.



5:11 am PDT

Dylan Levesque puts down a wild run and slots into second place, 0.665 off Phil Atwill's time.



5:03 am PDT

After the first 30 Elite Men the top five is:

1st. Phil Atwill: 3:12.594
2nd. Adam Brayton: 3:13.326
3rd. Rastislav Baranek: 3:13.810
4th. Dean Lucas: 3:14.197
5th. Thibault Laly: 3:14.248



4:47 am PDT

The Elite Men are now on track and after the first 15 riders the top five is:

1st. Dean Lucas: 3:14.197
2nd. Valentin Chatanay: 3:14.426
3rd. Ronan Dunne: 3:15.072
4th. Austin Dooley: 3:15.756
5th. George Brannigan: 3:16.108



4:14 am PDT

Myriam Nicole wins the Maribor World Cup!



4:14 am PDT

Vali Höll can't match the pace of Myriam Nicole and goes into sixth place.



4:11 am PDT

Myriam Nicole flies into the lead by over 1.3 seconds!



4:07 am PDT

Despite being green in the first three splits Camille Balanche loses almost two seconds at split four and finishes her run in second place.



4:02 am PDT

Eleonora Farina is looking rapid on course and takes a huge three seconds off Monika Hrastnik's time. Eleonora is the first rider to beat the fastest qualifier of Vali Höll.



3:59 am PDT

Monika Hrastnik manages to pull back nearly two seconds at the bottom of the course to take over the lead by only 0.004 seconds.



3:57 am PDT

With five more riders left to run the current top five is:

1st. Tahnee Seagrave: 3:40.406
2nd. Mille Johnset: 3:42.133
3rd. Jessica Blewitt: 3:44.001
4th. Veronika Widmann: 3:46.365
5th. Marine Cabirou: 3:47.066



3:55 am PDT

Tahnee Seagrave goes green at every split to take the lead with five more riders to go.



3:53 am PDT

Jessica Blewitt is flying this weekend and manages to end her run less than two seconds back from Mille Johnset.



3:49 am PDT

A rapid run from Mille Johnset sees her take the top time so far, going over four seconds faster than Veronika Widmann.



3:47 am PDT

Marine Cabirou is still struggling with her injury from Les Gets, but that hasn't slowed her down as she now takes second place.



3:46 am PDT

Mathilde Bernard kicks off the last ten riders with a great run that slots her into second place, only 1.613 back.



3:39 am PDT

After the first five riders the current top five is:

1st. Veronika Widmann: 3:46.365
2nd. Emilie Siegenthaler: 3:52.247
3rd. Anna Newkirk: 3:52.276
4th. Mikayla Parton: 3:53.808
5th. Noga Korem: 3:56.471



3:35 am PDT

Veronika Widmann has already dropped the fastest time by a big margin as she takes over ten seconds out of Noga's run.



3:34 am PDT

Noga Korem is the first Elite Woman on track today and she crosses the line with a time of 3:56.471.



Stay tuned for live updates and results from the Maribor DH World Cup

The Elite Women's racing kicks off at: PST 03:30 / EST 06:30 / GMT 11:30 / CET 12:30

The Elite Men will start at: PST 04:30 / EST 07:30 / GMT 12:30 / CEST 13:30






225 Comments

  • 207 9
 What‘s the point with all the hate for Claudio? Do you guys know him or did he do anything to upset you? I know him and i know how much he has done and still does for the cycling sport!

Show some respect and be friendly.....at least try to!
  • 61 4
 So true. Claudio seems like a lovely guy and to be honest I thought he was better than the guy last time. Claudio seemed less false. Totally agreed, even if people don't like him for their own personal reasons, there is absolutely no justification, whatsoever, for saying hateful things about him.
  • 34 4
 I don’t get it, especially when Claudio is actually exciting and says things relevant to the moment. Eliot literally said the same thing about every rider during every run -“this guy is actually stronger and fitter that you realize”
  • 46 4
 Good to hear Claudio again.
  • 12 2
 I appreciate Claudio for his work with Velosolutions and Ride for Peace. I have no opinion on his work as commentator.
  • 36 3
 @Tracefunction: it is so weird the comments people make about him. Like, I actually really liked the guy last time, he was excellent, but, it was a bit too ESPN for me and didn't fit as well as Claudio. If people watch a replay of the race they'll realise Claudio says plenty of highly relevant things and also helps the excitement and the positivity. Same with Rob Warner. Honestly, if people stop and think about it, sports commentator is one of the hardest jobs in the world. Watch a NASCAR race, an English soccer game, an F1 race etc., none of them come close to the quality of the commentary for DH because Rob and Claudio are so close to the sport and have been there themselves, they are also not artificially moulded by some mega sports broadcaster who wants fake drama and excitement and generic DH information. Anyone that has watched a mountain bike race from a conventional broadcaster will know how absolutely horrific the commentary is. Maybe Rob, Claudio and Elliot would be the dream team. Elliot would give it that glamour that the big broadcasting companies like, and it is no bad thing, as long as there is the depth and breadth of knowledge and passion.
  • 20 5
 @mccarthyp: Pretty much on point. I like Elliot and he's a good mtb journalist overall, but his live "play by play" was so muted and repetitive, you could tell he was way out of his depth. He either needs more practice on a smaller stage or to be the third man who offers some anecdotes here and there rather than 1 of the 2 main commentators.
  • 52 1
 The problem is Reece Wilson was so brilliant when he snuck into the booth, he set the bar quite high. I almost wish they would let Wilson go down first and then straight to the microphone. Regardless, we're lucky to not have some of the insufferable dopes they use for the X-games as @mccarthyp described.
  • 14 35
flag tonit91 (Aug 15, 2021 at 9:07) (Below Threshold)
 Can't stand his voice, and a lot of times he is clueless about what's really going on in the race.
  • 38 16
 2 Things:

-His commentary is quite often a wildly different interpretation from what's actually happening than mine. Rather personal I know, but I think Reece and Elliot have a way better insight into whats happening and provide more poignant commentary on the race.

-He leaked Bryceland's departure from WC racing during the broadcast of his last race run before Bryceland had a change to announce this himself. On top of that, he cited wrong reasons...

I surely don't hate him, but I dislike him enough to prefer having somebody else in the commentary box.
  • 12 1
 @Stoegl: the Bryceland incident was a total horror show, I can't deny it Frown

Reece awesome, can't deny that either. Some day I'm sure he'll be on the mic.
  • 11 8
 I started that thread. And I have no hate for Claudio. But I was disappointed because I think Elliot is better.
  • 14 7
 Claudio is great. No disrespect towards Elliot, but the announcers booth is not the place for him.
  • 15 0
 Well, it's OK if some don't like Claudio as commentator or favor another person - no issues with that. It's just that many native english speakers out there seem to forget how hard it is for a foreigner to comment on a live event where you have no time to look up the right words in your brain. All good as long as people do not misinterpret their disfavor for a person as qualification to label them as bad commentator.
  • 16 0
 @Stoegl: I personally rather feel that Claudio's interpretations are most of the time spot on - at least as spot on as Rob's Wink


As for Reece - yes he is a very charming guy and did a fantastic job as well as Elliot. So i'd say we can be happy to have some variations in the commentary box and none of these guys deserves a "boo"!
  • 7 1
 @Stoegl: Letting go of things is a skill that takes time to master…

Admittedly it took me a while to get over some of his style but overall i cannot imagine live-documentary without him.

He’s deeply passionate, super knowledgeable and him and Rob “this man”-man are mutually ironing out misunderstandings about whats going on without being awkward.

I highly enjoy it and am thankful that he’s a part of what makes following DH-racing as exciting and - above all - human as it is.

Thank you Claudio (Tracey, Rob and Elliot) for making it special everytime for those who can’t be there in person!
  • 2 4
 @whiteboarder: That's true, but you can still call bullsh** on a bullsh** move a few years after. Especialy when it fits the context Wink
That said, I wouldn't argue with anything you (and many others) wrote about his positive traits, his passion and the good he did/does for the sport in general.
It almost seems like sympathy/antipathy are largely subjective.

@danielson-01:
Let's not get too far into Warner vs Claudio, haha.
If they keep mixing it up with the commentators like they did so far this year, I'm happy.
And who knows, maybe, someday, we'll live in world with Warner, Peaty, and Minnaar in the commentary box (and tearing it down in the process). Although it will probably take some years until Minnaar is ready to retire...
  • 3 13
flag blacktea (Aug 15, 2021 at 12:02) (Below Threshold)
 Elliott who?
  • 3 1
 @Stoegl: All fair. At least you let go of Rob preannouncing Danny’s move to “a square brand”… ; )
  • 8 1
 @whiteboarder: I'm all for team rumors in the live commentary! But there's a difference between commenting on a rumor (Hart) and putting someone in a tight spot (Bryceland).
  • 5 3
 @Stoegl: Both is crossing the line for an “insider” which one might consider unprofessional.

We can take this discussion to Geisskopfhütte over a beer if you like : )
  • 9 0
 I was super happy to see Claudio and Warner today. These 2 impersonate MTB commentary for me, so I'm just showing some support here
  • 6 10
flag rnov8tr (Aug 15, 2021 at 14:47) (Below Threshold)
 Claudio has stepped in it too many times. The Bryceland and Atherton incidents put me off...he cant hold a candle to Rob as far as skills in the booth go.
  • 5 1
 @whiteboarder: they were VERY different situations. What about the Racheal comments a couple years back?
  • 5 0
 @LuDH: They both impersonate and personify, which is no mean feat.
  • 8 3
 Was totally pumped to have Claudio back
  • 5 2
 Bring back that big American guy who looks like he never raced a bike in his life and he always yells "Shut the front door." Brad something or other, I think.
  • 8 1
 I was super happy to see Claudio was back, he's just classic imo. Eliot is better with interviews and stuff, Claudio for commentator any day. Warner and Wilson were really good too though.
  • 5 1
 @danielson-01: spot on!
Just like in surfing. Give all of them some mic time. It does not have to be all Rob or Claudio or Elliot or Reece.. Personally they all give some interesting input in a way or another
And thanks red bull for the coverage!!!
  • 3 4
 Typically when people assail others that way, its their way of saying they themselves are pretty bland and lacking unique personality; so they form animosity and mild resentment to those that exhibit exuberance and success. It's comforting to them-(the weak hearted) to be a blanket that stifles the light to shine out of others. Their thirst for conformity of character from others will never be quenched unless they surrender to humility of heart.
  • 3 3
 I know him and he upset me!! LMAO. JK. He's just boring.
  • 4 3
 @Tracefunction: Got to give Eliot time to learn and practice! It takes that to be good. He has huge potential.
  • 2 2
 @Mntneer: Mate, he did one race. Give him a chance! It takes time to learn and practice.
  • 14 8
 Nothing against Claudio personally, great guy, but he's just doesn't add alot of value in the booth. Basically just parrots what Warner says, or points out super obvious things. Elliott was a breath of fresh air, and I really hope he gets another chance. He had way more insights about setup, line choice and rider strategy than Claudio has ever had. And you could tell Elliott had done his homework, he had interesting anecdotes about some of the lesser known riders. IMO Elliot is already better then Claudio, and with experience he'll only improve even more
  • 3 0
 I had the pleasure of meeting Claudio and Rob at MSA in 2018 at the club party. Claudio took the time to get to know my story and entertained a conversation where I was in awe at speaking with a couple of my hero’s. Rob Warner could give two sh*ts although I think he was pretty hammed. Stood there with his sunglasses on all night, I asked him who he thought was going to win the final. He waits for a pause and bluntly states with the utmost confidence “Bruni.”

Loic went out and smoked the field the next day at MSA and I got to give him a hug at the after party.
  • 9 1
 Claudio can be an amazing guy, great ambassador for the sport, and genuine person but also a boring color commentator. These things are not mutually exclusive.
  • 6 1
 Just because some one is a nice person does not mean they are good at their job.
  • 76 1
 Congrats Jackson!!! Massive result for a win after that horrible crash in the rock garden. The future of Canadian DH continues to shine brightly.
  • 2 0
 Yoo soo stoked to see him win, great things in his future.
  • 66 5
 Vali needs to do something about dealing with not winning before she burns herself down. She seems pissed at every race for not winning, and not winning is not the end of the world specially in your first elite year. It takes a lot of time and consistency to nail down a first place and she is (and us are) expecting for her to do it from day one. Camille on the other hand is handling the pressure from the rainbow stripes in a completely different way, riding completely comfortable, without pressure and landing podium after podium, and most importantly enjoying whatever result she gets she is in a totally different mental game. Like today she was obviously slowed down and missed the win in the last woods, maybe fatigue or a wrong line, but still happy with a third place.
  • 10 0
 I have not heard an interview with her after her race run so I'm not sure whether she actually this upset. In an interview she gave yesterday she mentioned that she's now trying to have more fun and not be too focused on the results. So that seems like a good approach. But yeah, it is a tough one. Her amazing junior results (with race times that would have landed her on the elite podium) have raised expectations everywhere which is hard to ignore. Camille on the other hand, even when she was wearing the rainbow stripes many people still considered her the underdog. It might help that her partner is also a mental coach. Agreed if Vali doesn't have one already (which I doubt in this day and age) it would be a worthy one to work with. It definitely isn't something one should try to figure out all by herself.
  • 29 5
 Vali Höll seems extremely anxious and stressed all the time, taking everything at heart, and putting too much pressure on herself as if her life would depend on it.
She makes me think about those people who come from families where the parents constantly put pressure on their children to get the best out of them. In these families, you have to be the first at everything or nothing else, and a failure is rarely admitted. She's so young, she has her life in front of her, but she doesn't seem able to chill and take it easy.
I think her problem is only mental, not physical nor technical. Hopefully she'll get more maturity with time and experiences. Relax Vali, relax!!!
PS: may be she should be coached by Daprela Smile
  • 9 16
flag stikmanglaspell (Aug 15, 2021 at 7:33) (Below Threshold)
 There was no finish interview with VH today so where are you getting the 'pissed' from?
  • 26 2
 @stikmanglaspell: She just rushed through finish area without a stop to congratulate Pompon
  • 22 2
 @stikmanglaspell: Maybe the fact that she quickly left the finish area and didn't congratulate the winners?
  • 23 3
 @stikmanglaspell: exactly what the people said here, she just went away not even looked back or congratulate the winner and was clearly pissed again. In the other hand, almost everyone in both women and men were satisfied with their run and show it regardless of the time or position, Reece Wilson, Brook, Kolb without chain for example where people were just happy to finish it in one piece and do a solid run and these riders I mentioned where all out of the top ten despite being in factory teams. Wilson was celebrating like he was in the lead and he finished 21st! Because he was struggling he was happy with what he achieved, not pissed with what he missed. That's the difference
  • 14 2
 @not-really: Let's not jump to conclusions after what we could see over the internet. Maybe there was something personal in her family that messed with her mood and concentration, maybe something else, maybe nothing and you are right... we just don't know and I don't think it is fair to speculate and think we are right. The answer will come (or not). And even if you are right, the worst we could probably do for her is overanalyze it and judge it. She is young. Give her rest and space and trust that she probably already has the right people around her who can point her in the right direction. We probably can not much for her from here but we can do harm.
  • 11 0
 Let's not forget the massive weight of expectations that were put on her shoulders in her last year as a junior. It was as if she was destined to be overall world champ in her rookie year at the elite level. Being an former junior world champ is just an indication, nothing more and nothing less. Look at Finn Iles, this is his 3rd of 4th year in the elites, still trying to get that first elusive win under his belt. Time will tell...
  • 10 0
 She seems to be going through a lot of what Finn has experienced. Completely dominating the juniors only to struggle in the elite category. Good thing is both of them are very young and have time ahead of them to get it right.
  • 4 0
 @ATXZJ: yup. Was gonna say the same, she is the women’s Finn. I hope she can get it under control better than he has; I love the kid but I’m no longer sure he can win at the Elite level.
  • 3 0
 @Exbow: Danny Hart was also dominating the UK junior category (back when riding Balfa bikes) and when he joined Nico Vouilloz at Lapierre I expected great things, but nothing came. Yet even now, we know we can never rule the man out.
  • 3 1
 @danstonQ: You remind me of the movie Pitch Perfect "As my father always said 'If at first you don't succeed, you're out of the family.'"
  • 2 0
 Not only is not winning not the end of the world, it's part of the sport! Even the best riders we've ever seen have relatively few race wins if you compare to motor racing, for example.
  • 3 5
 Why do you say that? I didn't see her interviewed after the race. How do you know she was pissed? Did she get interviewed? thx,
  • 2 0
 It's not like any of us were any different as teenagers. We just weren't good enough at anything to be on live TV for people to see it
  • 10 1
 @catweasel: Daprela is a similar age. He went straight over to congratulate Vergier on his win. I'm sure Vali will be happy to receive congratulatory hugs when she inevitably does get a win, but unless she matures quickly they may not be as forthcoming as she'd like.
  • 6 7
 Yall need to relax. You dont become the best in the world by being happy with not performing well. Its obvious most people on here have never been a part of a program with elite athletes. I agree she can mature a bit to better manage those feelings, but shes 18...cut her some slack
  • 4 0
 @LaXcarp: She's 20 in December.
  • 3 4
 @commental: Ok, shes 20. Cut her some slack
  • 6 1
 You need to give here a break. She’s still a teen, remember when you were that age? Plus, and that’s more important: I can’t think of anyone who’s been put under more pressure from media at that age. Not even Danny or Iles. I don’t know her personally but I have talked to people who do: the thing she struggles most with is the hype. She will start to shine once the focus moves away again. Pretty sure about that.
  • 5 1
 @LaXcarp: IMHO, her parents or manager needs to get her attitude in check. She is doing a poor job representing her sponsors and the people that pay her salary. You had a result you weren't happy with, and so did everyone else who's raced.
  • 4 0
 @ATXZJ: IMO she needs work with a sports psychologist. These aren't feelings and emotions that you can just turn off with a switch or ignore. It takes purposeful work. She doesnt need to act the way people want her to act.
  • 1 0
 @LaXcarp: fair point. Either way, hope she gets her act together.
  • 3 2
 Once again, I don't think it is good to keep discussing her like this. It is doing more harm than good.

@LaXcarp: There is a difference between performance and result. You can be unhappy about your performance, but shouldn't let the result get to you too much. And it actually takes experience and mental strength the get there. I think riders like Gee Atherton and Greg Minnaar have that. They can finish lower ("crappy result" if you'd like to call it like that) but still be happy because their run went to plan. And then sometimes their result is right up there again. But many tend to judge their performance by their result (as in, how high up the score sheet) and that's where it gets frustrating. Because you don't have (and shouldn't have) control over how well others are doing. A well documented case is Steve Peat. If you've seen the Seasons movie (Collective/Anthill with Peaty racing MSA in 2007) and The Tipping Point (Clay Porter, the 2008 race season) you've noticed Peaty landed on the podium several times, but wasn't happy. In MSA 2007, Sam Hill was on the top step. In Val di Sole 2008 (Worlds) Peaty was actually happy with his run and Sam Hill crashed out, but Gee Atherton just had a faster run and won. Didn't mean Peaty suddenly had a bad run, but he was still upset. In 2009 he changed his mindset and learned to have fun again. He had a good season and won the Worlds. Another example is how Twan van Gendt improved his mindset in a relatively short period of time and eventually won the BMX Worlds. He is incredibly strong and disciplined, but being unhappy with poor (or "crappy") results was only doing harm. I love how well this was documented in the video below:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFXdnIYi7ig

TL;DR: Being unhappy with a "crappy" result doesn't help much because 1) you don't have full control over a result and 2) being unhappy isn't helpful full stop.
  • 1 0
 @vinay: Yes i agree. Maybe she is not happy with her performance, hence her reaction.
  • 63 0
 Greeegg Minnaaaarrr!!!
  • 12 0
 i thought he had it such an amazing rider
  • 50 8
 Hey @pinkbike... Have you considered doing a separate article for the different classes in the world cups? Comments are such a big part of the site, and seems like a lot of really good content is lost in the long threads, since for example there have been all the previous races commented on before the elite men have taken to the track.
  • 41 1
 Brunei, Minnaar Greenland, Daprella and Vegier faster each time. Fucking sick race !!!
  • 46 8
 When Van der Poel dropping?
  • 1 30
flag vinay (Aug 15, 2021 at 5:03) (Below Threshold)
 What's the deal with Van der Poel? Has he made mention of wanting to race WC DH too or do you expect race updates of the XC race too. (Honestly don't know whether there will be a WC XC race in Maribor, haven't read anything about it so far.)
  • 2 6
flag vinay (Aug 15, 2021 at 8:03) (Below Threshold)
 Ah sorry, completely missed that the European Championships XC were today (in Serbia) so that would have interfered with a WC XC in Maribor. Van der Poel wouldn't ride the EC but still, I wasn't aware he was expected to race the DH. Or well, at least @Number29 expected him to.
  • 42 0
 Once they've put a bridge over the rock garden
  • 1 2
 @chris-brown225: Not just the rock garden probably. Not sure what's scarier actually. Riding the whole course and jumping stuff or riding the whole course down skinnies.
  • 32 0
 The GOAT! I whish i had half his Fitness and skills ...
  • 5 0
 Barely looked like he was breathing hard at the bottom, crazy fit
  • 3 0
 When he gets on flatter open parts of the track with some pedaling, he is SOOOO fast!!! So strong and carries so much speed. the GOAT.
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 Pompon !!!!!
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 Yeah! Back to business!!!
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 Eleonora was massively impressive too. Second place was well deserved and I trust we'll see more of her. Remember she was over a second faster than Vali between split 3 and 4 in the qualifications. That's quite something. Either way, Max Commencal must be happy. Another three Commencal riders on the elite podium. Supporting loads of racers just works.
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 @vinay: Elenora was super impressive
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 @vinay: yeah that's what I thought, real breakout ride for her. Sometimes racers really come into their own when you least expect it, suddenly it's like a switch is flipped.
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 @alexhyland: Yeah, was just checking the split times again. After split 2, she constantly decreased her gap on Myriam (if Myriam would have ridden first of course). Which basically means that after split 2, she was the fastest female elite rider on the course. This is hugely impressive. In the next few days, someone at PB will write a more detailed analysis so that might reveal more than I can see just from looking at these numbers. But if you look at her run, this definitely doesn't seem like luck. She was strong and precise. Good stuff to come!
  • 29 0
 Dan Slack run is awesome, plus, jersey looks dope...
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 Yep, I was super stoked to see him do so well. He has a bright future.
  • 2 0
 And finishing 10th - possibly the performance of the day in the men's? (In terms of outperforming expected outcomes, obviously THE performance is usually the person who comes down in first position)
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 Dan Slack!!!
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 Definitely not slacking! Sorry, I'll see myself out.
  • 7 0
 You spelled Privateer of the Week wrong
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 nice to see the Bulldog's name up there
  • 15 0
 Loris on another level!! Congrats
  • 14 0
 Coulanges!!!
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 Quality run, and it just keeps holding up against rider after rider. Will be interesting to see how long he stays in the hot seat.
  • 4 0
 Oops, cursed it. Bruni only just pipped him though
  • 9 0
 He was determined to stay in the hot seat for as long as possible just to give Rob Warner enough time to pronounce his name correctly
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 @chris-brown225: Could be worse, he could be called Berginc.
  • 13 0
 What a race! Vergier was clearly a notch above everyone else!
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 Can't quite believe it's only just over 3 years since dan slack did his first mtb race...absolutely f..ing savage run today !!
  • 11 0
 That "JE*** TI MATER!!!!" scream just after big jump during Vergiers run Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
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 Cool to see Jackson win, Even cooler to see the junior womens field so closely packed together with times not far off the elites !!
  • 12 0
 Grande Eleonora !!!!!
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 Very uncool behaviour Vali, you start to become a negative character in the sport. For all the hype youre a bad loser
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 What is this in relation to? Have I missed something?
  • 4 1
 @GrandMasterOrge: leaving right after crossing the finish, especially when youre last down is not cool.
The other times she kicked the finish sidewall and slapped the handlebar.
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 @Korbi777: She's young, very competitive and has had a huge weight of expectation placed on her, yes you're right it's much better to congratulate the winner before leaving but I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt on this one.
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 @GrandMasterOrge: yes of course. i wouldnt have handled that half as good. but its still uncool. and wyn tv shows a bit more uncool
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flag dtheio (Aug 16, 2021 at 9:09) (Below Threshold)
 actually I kinda like her bad girl brand, fresh compared to all the lovely vibes in the field ;-)
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 @dtheio: macenroe style, 'you can not be serious'
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 Both men's and women's races were awesome! I'm stoked for Eleonora. Great to see Greenland up there after seeing his disappointment at not winning Hardline. I think that once Vali get's her first win it will click. Great commentary all around! I love Claudio's energy and enthusiasm.
  • 9 0
 Goldstone for JR Overall !!!! Definitely a bit of Steve in this young slayer
  • 9 0
 The time of Jackson goldstone would’ve been enough for 17Th in the elite.
Very good for a first year junior ! Fast af
  • 8 0
 With 4 of the top 6 men and the quickest woman today, those Frenchies are fast AF.
  • 9 0
 Great racing. Dang I love DH.
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 My issue with Claudio is that he doesn’t compliment Rob’s play-by-play commentary with unique observations, insights, and background stories like a good color commentator, but instead duplicates what Rob is doing often, and less effectively at that. Eliot did a little better in that regard, but was too passive and a bit milquetoast tbh. None of this is easy, granted, but that’s why good announcers make a lot of money and why broadcaster training exists.
  • 3 2
 I hope Eliot gets another chance! As you say, it takes time, and I think he has tons of potential. I felt that Claudio was on his A game today, but that's still sort of boring in my opinion.
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 @mybaben: Eliot is a thoughtful, introspective guy based on the extended interview I listened to (PB podcast maybe?) but I'm not sure that his real time commentary will ever be at a Bob Roll level or whomever we would hold up as some sort of color commentator gold standard. Hopefully he's getting some reps in (practicing with past race footage and Rob's audio track) before his next go. Claudio was definitely excited and engaged this time but he didn't elevate the commentary in any way imo. His best bit was the running down the hill thing during the intro, unless i missed something else during the first hour of racing (that I skipped).
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 @Giddyhitch: Agreed on all points. Hopefully RB will give Eliot some good opportunities this season. Claudio was very energized, which was nice, but I'm still just so-so on him.
Digging commentators is so subjective I guess... I watch F1 racing and there is a commentator named Martin Brundle; I love that guy, and yet I heard someone say they thought he was boring... WTF?? Oh well....
  • 7 0
 Dan Slack - 10th, no factory team. And holding that top spot through the Mercedes section almost to the end - v impressive
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 Best Claudio line... he seems to be hitting all the holes hahahahah.
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 I like when he said that also.
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 Great race ,Greg just did one mistake after the third slip ,and he had 3 just f*cking crazy guys going next to him ,congratulations to all ,and all the females,what a great racing it was ,and força Nuno
  • 5 0
 So psyched to see Minnaar beat Bruni!! I like Loic, but it's just fun to watch the veteran beat some of the young Frenchies!
  • 6 0
 And why did Eddie, the people's champion, not start?
  • 4 0
 Looks like a bad crash in training this morning. @mackfaint had a shot of the crash on his stories
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 Masters? Bad crash. Check out Wyn's facebook page. they're both sitting there in casts and slings and shit.
  • 4 2
 Thanks mates. Their parents probably wish they had two girls.
  • 2 0
 the coverage started off incredibly well despite the lack of overhead drone footage. The females went off without a hitch the second one was passed the line the next dropped in. Great start with Phil Atwill defending the throne and then it just kept getting crazier and off the hook I actually thought the GOAT was going to take it as we saw the rest of the field unable to link it all faster....... then came some incredible riders and the rest is history. Greenland looked like a kid in a candy store.
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 What about Junior Women?

I was on the track and Phoebe Gale was listed as DNS on the live timing and apparently she was late for her start (as I heard). Izabela Yankova was at first place and we were celebrating already, thinking she won. Don't get me wrong, a win is a win, Phoebe got down faster, but it was like 4-5 minutes after Sophie started.

So what actually happened? Phoebe was allowed to race even if she was late for her start? Because she's a factory rider?
I highly doubt any other non-factory girl would be allowed to start in this case.

Still, a second place is a great success, but it was disappointing to see that happen...
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 Possibly so, but I do think junior men and women should get some slight leeway as they are very young and there is a lot of pressure. As for elites, that female elite rider moaning about being denied a late start due to flat tire is the sort of unprofessional entitled attitude that makes it so hard to apply some leeway for exceptional circumstances, such as a junior rider being a few minutes late.
  • 2 1
 Question : As riders are going down the track, what do the others do ?
They're warming up but are they "in their bubble" and not wanting to know anything ?
Are they sometimes watching to see where things could be difficult ? (knowing where previous riders fall, curve or berm deteriorating, etc)
Are they having someone from the team watching and telling them if there's anything useful to know ?
  • 4 0
 From what I recall, riders can know things if they want to. But depending on how they prepare mentally, they might like to shut off completely before their run. Not sure what year it was exactly, but back a few years ago at the final WC race, Gwin and Minnaar were very tight in points. I think Gwin won qualifiers but Minnaar still had more points leading into the finals. Minnaar rode really aggressively and early in his run blew the tire of the rim, getting the whole lot (tire and a bunch of inserts) tangled up. He had to walk down the track. Gwin didn't know and went all out though if he'd had known, he could have played it safe and taken the title cruising down. But he (obviously) wasn't watching the live stream whilst up in the start hut. However, there was an earlier year where there was a berm blown out. After his run, Josh Bryceland (who was on the same team) texted Greg Minnaar about this so Greg was prepared and adapted his run. So yeah, these are instances where it (could have) helped to receive some updates. But I think overall watching everything is a lott to process and it doesn't make for a proper mental preparation.
  • 4 0
 In case someone is wondering, ear pieces are banned.
  • 1 0
 @vinay: Ok, thanks Smile
  • 9 4
 French championship with some guests! ;-)
  • 1 0
 it was a great race to watch and the last top 5 guys didn't disappoint us ! I miss more geeky stat from Eliot to understand more precisely where all have been done. ____PLease Mr UCI provide back API access or at least equivalent analysis. rgds all Gilles
  • 3 1
 Three Canadians in the top ten of then juniors! Way to go boys ! Strong showing for the young ladies too. Future looks bright !!
  • 3 1
 That flat turn on the tarmac at the end from Greenland and Daprela was unbelievable, so impressive!! Cool to see Vergier back on pace, sick run. Full on French domination !!
  • 2 0
 That corner scared the shit out of me. I was just waiting for someone to slide out with knobs on asphalt! I think I saw one of the men towards the end, possibly Minnaar bunny hop the inside curb too. Unbelievable!!!!
  • 1 2
 @mybaben: that's why I stopped running Maxis tires. Crash like that a few time on those tires rolling on local streets.
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 @mybaben: A lot of the riders did that. The put the thing right on the racing line.
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 @BenPea: Yeah, if you wanted the inside line it was totally in the way. I think that's why so many riders were taking the outside, which wasn't a great line...
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 @mybaben: the riders didn't seem too worried about it. Until the race I didn't realise that it wasn't actually that tight. It's just the fact that it's tarmac, but it's actually better than other flat turns we've seen in the past that have ruined at least one classic run. Tarmac is consistent, you have to give it that.
  • 4 0
 Race of the year!
  • 7 4
 Goldstone was faster than the Worldchamp -just saying.
  • 2 6
flag BenPea (Aug 16, 2021 at 1:50) (Below Threshold)
 I'm starting to think Reece may have been punching above his weight. Right place, right time kind if thing. Good that he's making the most of it to get exposure and media experience.
  • 2 0
 @BenPea: despite my comment i am not so sure,he looked very on it in Les Gets and leogang, i think the crash messed him up a bit more than he thought initially, he said in an interview that he just was not confident this week -never the less impressive by Jackson
  • 1 3
 @optimumnotmaximum: maybe. Jury's still out though. I think all the gold bling makes me feel he needs to be really
delivering now.
  • 1 0
 @optimumnotmaximum: i'm prepared to be ridiculed about this in the future. Just not sure he's top 5, but he looks like Roger Federer out there. I like him a lot, regardless.
  • 3 0
 Greg Minaar will be in the top 10 when he's drawing his pension
  • 3 1
 Give‘m dust Camille and Emi!
  • 1 0
 I didn't get to see Emily's run. Did it go well (regardless of result)?
  • 2 0
 When you wake up to watch, and you see you're Geo Restricted.
  • 3 0
 Same on my tv, just switched to PC and im seeing it fine, if not use a VPN
  • 1 0
 Update, my phone is restricted, but my Samsung TV app is working perfectly! *smile
  • 3 0
 What a freaking race!
  • 2 0
 Lit kit Race. Dan slack Practice trek factory Honors gt
  • 2 0
 The time gaps between 3rd and 5th…INSANE
  • 3 0
 What happened to Finn?
  • 6 0
 He got a hairline fracture in his hand during practice. It is on Bernard Kerr's youtube.
  • 2 0
 Broke his hand in practice
  • 20 0
 He broke his fin
  • 2 1
 The Force wasn’t strong enough my young Palpatine.
  • 1 0
 Reece Wilson best ever !!!!!!
  • 5 6
 redbull not showing rock garden in womens. yet another race missing key sections. what a joke
  • 3 0
 showing now. they were skipping large sections of earlier runs
  • 2 0
 Agreed. That sucked! I hate how they shorten the Women's runs.
  • 2 0
 @mybaben: so true. wonderful co-commentary and yet a shame only the top riders are broadcasted
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 Claudio is better than Elliot
  • 1 0
 I like Fozzie Bear too, but he was better in his original gig.
  • 2 1
 What about Aron gwin ?
  • 1 3
 Loris is the Lebron James of the cycling world. He's a good sport when he wins but a sore loser when he doesn't.
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