[Updated with Overall] Final Results from the Mont-Sainte-Anne DH World Cup 2022

Aug 7, 2022
by Ed Spratt  
Kaos Seagrave doing Kaos Seagrave things.


The seventh round of the 2022 downhill World Cup provided legendary racing at Mont-Sainte-Anne. In the Junior Men's racing, Jackson Goldstone secured the win on home soil and we believe he also took the 2022 overall title. Jordan Williams crossed the line just under four seconds back with Bodhi Kuhn completing the top three. Phoebe Gale took the win in the Junior Women's race with a dominant run and a gap of almost seven seconds to Izabela Yankova. Gracey Hemstreet ended the weekend in third and will still be chasing the overall at the final round.

Vali Höll takes another win this year as she pulled over three seconds ahead of a hard-charging Nina Hoffmann. Eleonora Farina was the only other rider to beat the fastest qualifying run and crossed the line in third. Myriam Nicole was leading even against Vali by over two seconds after split two but a flat tire took away her chance of a win.

What a final run! Finn Iles pushed past unbelievable pressure to take his first World Cup win in Canada. Finn becomes the first Canadian to win at home since Stevie Smith in 2013 and he didn't have a chain at the end of his run. Laurie Greenland put down a wild run that seemed unbeatable right until the very end.


Check out the results below.




Results:


Elite Women


1st. Vali Höll: 4:56.012
2nd. Nina Hoffmann: 4:59.159
3rd. Eleonora Farina: 5:00.522
4th. Jess Blewitt: 5:11.908
5th. Monika Hrastnik: 5:12.210

Elite Men


1st. Finn Iles: 4:11.717
2nd. Laurie Greenland: 4:11.955
3rd. Troy Brosnan: 4:15.221
4th. Aaron Gwin: 4:17.531
5th. Bernard Kerr: 4:18.100


Junior Women


1st. Phoebe Gale: 5:09.223
2nd. Izabela Yankova: 5:16.084
3rd. Gracey Hemstreet: 5:16.805
4th. Valentina Roa Sanchez: 5:27.466
5th. Aimi Kenyon: 5:28.439

Junior Men


1st. Jackson Goldstone: 4:13.766
2nd. Jordan Williams: 4:17.566
3rd. Bodhi Kuhn: 4:20.302
4th. Lachlan Stevens-McNab: 4:26.463
5th. Ryan Pinkerton: 4:26.966



Full Results:

Elite Women

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Elite Men

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Junior Women

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Junior Men

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Overall Standings:

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Elite Men

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Live Race Updates:


Stay tuned for live updates and results from the Mont-Sainte-Anne DH World Cup

The Elite Women's racing kicks off at: PDT 10:25 / EDT 12:25 / BST 17:25 / CEST 18:25

The Elite Men will start at: PDT 11:45 / EDT 13:45 / BST 18:45 / CEST 19:45



Elite Women

First up in the Elite racing is the Women and we could be in for some fast times as the course is drying out. With Camille Balanche out with an injury the overall is wide open for the taking.



Course Preview:




Top Five from Qualifying:

1st. Vali Höll: 5:04.032
2nd. Monika Hrastnik: 5:17.998
3rd. Nina Hoffmann: 5:19.624
4th. Myriam Nicole: 5:22.463
5th. Jess Blewitt: 5:23.439



Who do you think will win?:

Who Will Win the Elite Women's Race?

This poll is closed



Who do you think will win today's racing? Will we see someone new take the top step of the podium?



Race Updates:

9:30 am PDT The Elite Women are now on course as Caitlyn Farmer kicks off the racing.

9:41 am PDT After the first six riders the top five are:

1st. Mélanie Chappaz: 5:30.934
2nd. Siel Van Der Velden: 5:31.224
3rd. Abigail Hogie: 5:47.688
4th. Cassie Voysey: 6:07.257
5th. Ella Erickson: 6:16.143

9:46 am PDT Mikayla Parton is the first of the top ten riders to hit the course and she goes into the lead by just 0.002 seconds!

9:48 am PDT After not completing a full qualifying run Mille Johnset flies into the top spot so far by nine seconds.

9:51 am PDT It's now Anna Newkirk who goes fastest with a gap of 2.5 seconds back to Mille Johnset.

9:53 am PDT Veronika Widmann takes the lead by over five seconds. Veronika is still ten seconds off Vali Höll's qualifying run.

9:56 am PDT Eleonora Farina was flying but a few stalls in the rock garden did lose quite a bit of time. Eleonora still crosses the line a massive 13.6 seconds up. Vali's qualifying run has now been beaten by four seconds.

9:57 am PDT With five riders left the top five are:

1st. Eleonora Farina: 5:00.522
2nd. Veronika Widmann: 5:14.216
3rd. Anna Newkirk: 5:19.425
4th. Mille Johnset: 5:21.932
5th. Mikayla Parton: 5:30.932

10:00 am PDT Jess Blewitt is over 11 seconds back but this is still good enough for 2nd place so far.

10:01 am PDT Myriam Nicole is looking good at the top of the course as she sits almost six seconds up at split two.

10:02 am PDT A flat rear tire for Myriam Nicole! This will really mess up the overall standings.

10:07 am PDT Nina Hoffmann takes the lead by 1.3 seconds! We still have two riders left so it will definitely be a top-three finish for Nina.

10:11 am PDT Big trouble for Monika Hrastnik through the rocks as she comes to a complete stop. Monika is still fourth at the next split.

10:11 am PDT Monika Hrastnik crosses the line in fourth place with only Vali Höll left.

10:13 am PDT Vali Höll is 1.6 up at split two, this is going to be close.

10:15 am PDT Vali Höll wins the Mont-Sainte-Anne World Cup!



Elite Men

Closing out the racing is the Men and after the Elite Women's race the course is looking very fast. We are sure to get some wild runs today from the top Elite Men.



Inside the Tape:


Before we get to the last riders check the lines Ben Cathro has found out on the course.



Top Five from Qualifying:

1st. Finn Iles: 4:17.842
2nd. Greg Minnaar: 4:21.082
3rd. Amaury Pierron: 4:22.571
4th. Troy Brosnan: 4:22.910
5th. Bernard Kerr: 4:24.102



Race Updates:

11:03 am PDT With 30 riders left the top five are:

1st. Ronan Dunne: 4:22.834
2nd. Mark Wallace: 4:23.459
3rd. Phil Atwill: 4:23.877
4th. Austin Dooley: 4:24.139
5th. Kirk McDowall: 4:24.964

11:16 am PDT Oliver Zwar takes the lead by just 0.5 seconds.

11:18 am PDT Kye A'Hern already beats Zwar to go over a second into the lead.

11:25 am PDT Ethan Craik had a rapid run to go fastest by over two seconds! Ethan is less than two seconds off Finn Iles' top qualifying run.

11:29 am PDT With 20 riders left the top five are:

1st. Ethan Craik: 4:19.172
2nd. Kye A'Hern: 4:21.260
3rd. Oliver Zwar: 4:22.293
4th. Dante Silva: 4:22.725
5th. Ronan Dunne: 4:22.834

11:41 am PDT A massive run from Laurie Greenland puts him over seven seconds up. This is now nearly six seconds faster than the top qualifier.

11:44 am PDT Hugo Frixtalon has a big crash just before where Camille Balanche crashed out in practice.

11:50 am PDT David Trummer was on track for a podium finish so far but a flat tire pushes him back to 22nd.

11:52 am PDT Charlie Hatton goes 10 seconds back and into fourth place.

11:56 am PDT A third place for Sam Blenkinsop, 8.2 back from Laurie Greenland.

12:03 pm PDT With 10 riders left the top five are:

1st. Laurie Greenland: 4:11.955
2nd. Ethan Craik: 4:19.172
3rd. Sam Blenkinsop: 4:20.227
4th. Dylan Levesque: 4:20.325
5th. Tuhoto-Ariki Pene: 4:21.026

12:11 pm PDT Aaron Gwin crosses the line in 2nd place and despite coming the closest to Laurie so far he is still over five and a half seconds back.

12:14 pm PDT Loris Revelli backs up his great qualifying run with a third place, 7.1 back.

12:18 pm PDT A flat tire for Andreas Kolb puts him all the way back in 39th place.

12:20 pm PDT Benoit Coulanges flies off the track as his tire comes off the rim. Benoit walks away unharmed but this was a wild one.

12:22 pm PDT With five riders left the top five are:

1st. Laurie Greenland: 4:11.955
2nd. Aaron Gwin: 4:17.531
3rd. Loris Revelli: 4:19.133
4th. Ethan Craik: 4:19.172
5th. Sam Blenkinsop: 4:20.227

12:25 pm PDT Bernard Kerr backs up his second place from Snowshoe with a third as he crosses the line.

12:28 pm PDT Coming the closest to Laurie Greenland so far Troy Brosnan sits in 2nd with a gap of 3.2 seconds.

12:31 pm PDT Amaury Pierron goes down! He could have thrown away the chance for taking the overall today.

12:32 pm PDT Amaury goes into the finish in 25th, this may not be enough.

12:34 pm PDT Greg Minnaar is only 1.6 back at split three, can he pull it back through the rocks?

12:35 pm PDT Greg goes off line and straight into a tree. He is quickly back on it and finishes 14 seconds back.

12:36 pm PDT What has Finn Iles done at the top of the course? He is over a second up at split one!

12:37 pm PDT Finn is still 0.2 in the green at split two.

12:38 pm PDT He extends the lead to half a second at the third split. This is wild from Finn Iles.

12:39 pm PDT One second up at split four, can he keep this going?

12:39 pm PDT Finn Iles wins his first World Cup in Mont-Sainte-Anne!





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332 Comments
  • 397 3
 FINN ILESSS YOU MONSTER!!!!!
  • 86 0
 Held it together!! Amazing! As well as greenland, on their own league today
  • 61 2
 and to have no chain crossing the line!!??!!
  • 46 3
 Good fucking god that was a hell of a run!
  • 47 1
 Stoked for him and Canada!! Congrats
  • 19 0
 WHAT A RACE!!!!!
  • 22 0
 F*ck yeah Finn!!!! So stoked for him!
  • 77 1
 Greatest sport on earth
  • 20 0
 What a moment, stuff of dreams.
  • 77 0
 Today is a great day for Canada, and therefore the world
  • 23 0
 You CHAINLESS MONSTER!!!!
  • 16 0
 @snomaster: Chain was off exiting the rocks at 3.25. Nuts.
  • 26 1
 So pleased. What a race, what racer #longlivechainsaw
  • 36 3
 that was a religious experience
  • 16 0
 What a race!Almost shed a tear after seeing how emotional Finn got.Add that the drama of taking the overall to the last race, wow. Feel guted for Aumeryt but will make last race something special.
  • 7 0
 One of the best races ever! Stoked for FINN!
  • 15 0
 Legendary race, one for the history books. Finn you absolute madman!!
  • 23 0
 @miguelcurto: #Almost shed a tear? What are you, a human block of ice?! Smile
  • 32 0
 I’m not crying, you’re crying… Amazing race!
  • 18 0
 Finally it all makes sense why Finn didn't win before... it had to happen on home soil! What a sport, what a race, what a legendary day! Stoked.
  • 4 64
flag dhrracer (Aug 6, 2022 at 14:15) (Below Threshold)
 @snomaster: This made question what is Specialized hiding. As we have seen there are tracks and section of tracks that having a chain make you slower. Gwin has proven this. Could they have a device that gives the rider the ability to make the chain disconnect? Perhaps a freewheel in the cranks/BB that could be locked or unlocked and controlled by the rider. Not trying to take anything away from Fin but it will be interesting to see what is under the cover.
  • 21 0
 Jackson with a time good for 3rd in elite… blah blah blah different track, but still!
  • 28 0
 @dhrracer: put the pipe down man! The lettuce is making your head spin wrong
  • 11 0
 @dhrracer: lol wut
  • 2 0
 So proud and happy for him!
  • 3 0
 In it to Finn it!
  • 6 0
 @jefferb: You're right, I am crying! Go Finn!
  • 12 0
 God damn, what a race. So happy for Finn. Awesome seeing all the other racers so happy for him. This is such a great sport.
  • 1 5
flag HeliumSoda (Aug 6, 2022 at 18:01) (Below Threshold)
 @sb666: different track... Worse. It was not as dry as the elite men so it was maybe higher up there?
  • 6 0
 So unreal! FINN finally did it on home Soil! Just like Stevie did back then!!! Witnessed it live today at MSA! What a show ! So proud!!
  • 7 0
 SO GODDAMN GOOD!!! Can't recall a race since Stevie's win that had me so close to the edge of my seat!! Loving every minute of that Canadian victory!
  • 3 9
flag snomaster (Aug 6, 2022 at 20:56) (Below Threshold)
 @sb666: the track prolly got faster today. The last guy down didnt even pedal and won.
lol
I cannot wait for Jackson to show up next season and be right there. He's got more in the tank too. Canada’s cast is getting mighty strong all of a sudden!
  • 4 0
 @ridestuff: even chain drop might have been a reminder for chainsaw... Brilliant.
  • 3 0
 @miguelcurto: tricky position for Armaury... If he pushes for world champs might lose all... If he goes safe also might lose an oportuniito win thw worlds...
  • 3 0
 @sb666: considering Jacky is hitting this circuits for first time... Is beyond words...
  • 6 0
 ...Chainless Finn for the Chainsaw Win \m/
  • 1 0
 Sweet victory
  • 6 1
 Finn Iles has just made himself a legend of this sport! History of Mountainbiking.
  • 1 0
 @dhrracer: That's what the O-Chain is for and why many on the pro DH circuit are running them
  • 131 0
 Santa Cruz Syndicate’s first year of running a junior and women’s program has been an outrageous success.
  • 51 0
 Hopefully it encourages more teams to support juniors, makes for a better elite field and better races!
  • 8 2
 @daceto817: underrated comments. With you all the way.
  • 130 0
 god, how i’ll miss warner next year!

#wegotrobbed
  • 1 3
 Wait, where’s he going?
  • 23 0
 @generictrailrider: Nowhere. However, UCI World Cups are leaving Red Bull for Discovery, which means we all lose Rob.
  • 2 0
 @mechaNICK: We gotta pay for that shit no?
  • 5 0
 @r0b1-kk: most likely.
  • 1 0
 @r0b1-kk: looking like it
  • 31 0
 Like a kangaroo on a trampoline.
  • 8 0
 Devastating for the sport !!! Elliot and Warner... What a combo !! Cant believe that was their last world cup on Canadian soil !!
  • 25 0
 Elliot too...him picking up on Finn dropping his chain from his quick glance down is something only a pro and a good commentator can catch...added to the drama so much
  • 1 0
 Actually we don't got Rob Frown
  • 9 0
 For those that didn't pick up in the after race Jackson stated thats the last race he is commentating for Red Bull. I take it that discovery has poached him to do the series next year. Very good news if so, because if we can't have Warner, Eliott is the next best thing.
  • 2 0
 @r0b1-kk: I would happily pay $30 for a pass to get race coverage with Rob Warner from _top to bottom_.
  • 126 0
 Downhill racing is the best. Bikes are the best.
  • 59 0
 Dude. I love bikes.
  • 16 0
 Bikes are sick
  • 8 0
 So good, so f*cking good!
  • 26 2
 @pisgahgnar: do you actually love bikes or is just the first thing you saw?
  • 4 3
 Underrated comment @bigtim:
  • 5 0
 @bigtim: I love lamp& bikes!
  • 4 0
 I'm not crying, you're crying!
  • 3 0
 @ajayflex: I’m not crying it’s just dust bro
  • 2 0
 @bigtim: Person Woman Man Camera TV
  • 2 0
 @ajayflex: Just watched and I actually am. It's important for men to weep once in a while. Biggest rush of Finn's life there, til the day he dies. Apart from drugs and love.
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: agreed, what a time to be a sports fan
  • 112 3
 Camera operator in the finishing corral needs to take their spins to a different job.
  • 23 2
 Yeah save it for people who want really trendy/cringy wedding shoots.

Plus the framing before and after isn't even that great. It's like the filming has to be chaotic to 'represent the sport' fwah gnarly duude
  • 12 0
 Yeah not sure what they're doing but they certainly ain't a professional lol only reason you should be spinning the camera like that is if you intend to use the spin as some sort of transition in post. No reason to be doing it on a livestream at all.
  • 10 2
 Oh come on, I laughed out loud at every camera spin. It's hilarious and silly in the best way.
  • 3 0
 Didn’t even give Fin a spin. f*cking sea with him
  • 89 2
 Finn Iles at home! whos cutting onions in here?
  • 24 1
 Me from the states! He earned it!! My onion are for my future burger fyi
  • 12 0
 I’m not crying! You’re crying!
  • 18 0
 I'm hearing ya @EvinReed .... You could not have scripted this any better!!! I was balling like a baby!!
#LONGLIVECHAINSAW
#ILOVECANADIANS
#LONGLIVEDOWNHILL
  • 82 0
 Finn, Laurie, Troy, Gwin and Kerr. Can you name a podium of guys we all wanted to see on the podium so bad all get on it?

Sorry Frenchies.
  • 51 0
 And to top it all off, Blenky in the top 10! Made my day.
  • 4 0
 Truly! What a race man
  • 11 0
 TB, super class act we could all learn from
  • 2 0
 When was the last time there wasn't a Frenchie on the podium?
  • 63 1
 Finn making me cry with his post race interview
  • 7 0
 Man totally. So over the top in awe and joy.

Proud of our Canadian riders today (all BC by the way). The fact that todays Canucks we’re kids when Stevie was at his top is amazing and a tribute to his legacy. #longlivechainsaw
  • 55 0
 Double Canadian win here we come! Let's go Finn.
  • 31 6
 Make that a triple Canadian win with Gracie Hemstreet in WJ!
  • 3 1
 @p0zi: ooohh yea
  • 12 7
 @p0zi: phoebe gale for wj and bernard for men's....brits all the way!
  • 8 23
flag thechunderdownunder (Aug 6, 2022 at 8:46) (Below Threshold)
 Sorry, Gwin for the win! Wink Finn looks super strong on the long track though.
  • 18 40
flag ratedgg13 (Aug 6, 2022 at 8:49) (Below Threshold)
 @thechunderdownunder: sorry but Gwin is nowhere near winning form... He may be able to get it back, but seems pretty unlikely.
  • 15 4
 @ratedgg13: I think he’s still in form. It’s more of the top riders are just flat out faster (and younger).
  • 1 0
 Yes sir!!!! Soooo stoked.
  • 2 3
 @ratedgg13: I didn’t say likely. But I’m rooting for him.
  • 22 3
 @thechunderdownunder: Gwinner on the podium, not bad!
  • 3 0
 @p0zi: @iridedj you guys called it, so sick!
  • 10 2
 @ratedgg13: this comment did not age well.
  • 5 0
 This aged well!!!! LFG
  • 5 0
 #LetFinnWin
  • 3 0
 Mans called it.. Legend.
  • 5 30
flag onawalk (Aug 6, 2022 at 13:26) (Below Threshold)
 @mechaNICK: nah,
4th ain’t a podium, it’s friggin close though.
Gwinner looks better and better this season, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him podium next race.
That would be an excellent comeback, and a real shot in the arm for both himself and Intense.
  • 14 2
 @onawalk: The 'Podium' is the top 5 racers not the same as the Gold Silver Bronze flower ceremony
  • 1 14
flag ratedgg13 (Aug 6, 2022 at 16:20) (Below Threshold)
 @lyfcycles: sorry, what was that? My comment didn't age well? Look who won, and tell me that again.
  • 2 23
flag onawalk (Aug 6, 2022 at 19:24) (Below Threshold)
 @suspended-flesh: @suspended-flesh: nah man,
Podium finish is literally that, standing on a podium 1,2,3.
When in the hell did a podium finish become top 5, stop trying to make everyone a “winner”
It doesn’t, in any way detract from an amazing race, and a spectacular result, but let’s stop pinning participation ribbons on people.
  • 1 16
flag onawalk (Aug 6, 2022 at 19:40) (Below Threshold)
 @suspended-flesh: quick bit of research, I don’t see anywhere that refers to 4th as a podium finish.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podium

Does any other sport call a 4th and 5th a podium finish?
  • 18 0
 @onawalk: they literally have a podium with 5 spots. Like all you have to do is watch the videos or pictures. Lol at you Bro
  • 8 0
 @onawalk: blame the Australians that wanted to have Cadel Evans on the podium at a World Cup/Champs back in the day when he was a junior racing against the elite pros. This was the birth of the 5 person podium in MTB and frankly, we're the better for it.
  • 10 0
 @onawalk: is this your first WC DH race?
  • 4 11
flag ratedgg13 (Aug 6, 2022 at 22:05) (Below Threshold)
 Lots of butt hurt gwin fans in this thread apparently
  • 4 7
 @ratedgg13: That's literally every world cup thread now. A bunch of people saying "i dont understand the gwin hate" when theres little to no gwin hate anywhere. Meanwhile they literally clog the thread and spam it with LETS GO GWIN comments and if anybody dares to mention how he's getting older and off pace OOOOO boi u better make sure your shoelaces are tight. boiz finna get mad that you are mentioning basic objective observations anyone with eyes can notice lol

and I say this as a southern californian who loves Gwin. But seriously, the gwin fans need to give their balls a tug.
  • 2 12
flag sonuvagun (Aug 7, 2022 at 1:15) (Below Threshold)
 @onawalk: you are right. The podium has a long long history of top three. But children want everything to mean nothing these days.
  • 1 0
 @handynzl: I see you Googled it. TY
  • 2 5
 @skibuilder: jeez man,
Just cause I tell you the sky is green, doesn’t mean it’s green man.
4th and 5th have never been a “podium” position in anything other than this.
Just a little critical review of why on earth in WC DH it’s considered a podium
  • 2 0
 @lepigpen: there has to be some Gwin hate. I just said I was rooting for home to win and I got downvotes. Idk why. I also mention Finn would be my bet to win lol.
  • 1 2
 @bdickieson: just questioning why we would see a 4th and 5th place finisher considered a podium.
I cant think of a single other sport that does, and let’s be honest, a “podium” finish has long predated WC DH.

Just cause I tell you the sky is green, doesn’t mean it is
  • 2 2
 @handynzl: that’s interesting, I wonder why, and who would have okay;d that decision.

Why are we better for awarding 4th and 5th as a podium?
Where do you stop, should the top 10 be on the podium?
  • 1 0
 @lepigpen: I’ll be honest, I’m not a Gwin fan, but I’m also not a Gwin hater in any way.
I love that he has such backing from mins fans, prolly much like Loic and Amaury would/do on French mtb forums.
He’s an underdog, and we love an underdog story. I’m stoked he’s up there in the top 5, really puts some acknowledgement into his training/process/work ethic.
All these guys are unreal riders,
I’m willing to bet we legitimately see Gwinner on a podium, if not this year, then next. The dev work on that Intense is pretty astounding really
  • 1 3
 @onawalk: Honest question: why do you spell it "prolly?" If you take the rightful/conservative stance on top 3 being podium then why give way to such dumbassery in terms of basic communication?
  • 4 1
 @sonuvagun: lmao this thread is so inherently toxic wut r u guys even doing.

id put a cork stopper on this tomfoolery right about now
  • 1 3
 @lepigpen: Thanks Karen.
  • 2 1
 @sonuvagun: You're welcome, son.
  • 1 2
 @lepigpen: You're confused, child.
  • 5 0
 @onawalk: I don't know why it's so important to you, but if you raced you'd understand that's just the way it works at lots of events. I am very happy to have a few 4th and 5th place DH medals from all kinds of races from Sea Otter to ProGRT, Mammoth, weird local stuff, etc, in my collection. I received them on a 'podium'. I did not complain that only the top 3 should be honored. Now, in DS racing, yes, only the top 3 get medals. Notice how PB lists the results above? It's not an arbitrary choice - it's tradition
  • 2 2
 @suspended-flesh: I’m not sure why you don’t think I race, or what that even has to do with anything.
I raced DH, XC, and DS for years, along with motocross. Never in my experience has there been a 4th or 5th place podium finish, granted that was 15-20 years ago. Raced 24 hr races more recently, still no 4th or 5th place podium. It’s not a tradition, as we can all agree, I can’t think of another sport that “podiums 4th and 5th place.
Being on the “podium” finishing 4th or 5th brings no more prestige to that placing, and certainly doesn’t detract from the accomplishment, but if you were to tell a casual acquaintance that you “podiumed” finishing 5th in a DH race, your being misleading, a d they would walk away thinking you finished either 1, 2, 3….
  • 2 0
 @sonuvagun: I mean, asking the question is fine, but you prolly didn’t need to follow it up with the snide remark.

Spent a long time travelling Asia, made some good friends from Oz, and picked it up from them, along with “fair play” and “brolly”
Speech, linguistics and basic communication is a pretty fluid thing, and ever changing. Look at the world of emojis and short hand, that are rapidly changing how we communicate.

Not sure that my use of prolly, is that much in terms of dumbassery, but coming from you, I’m gonna take that as a compliment. Is dumbassery a word, would that be ironic, prolly.

Also not sure why the belief that 1, 2, 3 are podium finishes is considered a conservative stance, but there you go I guess.
  • 4 0
 @onawalk: It is tradition in mountainbike racing. Have you been living behind the moon?

Everyone mountainbiker knows that a podium is 1-5.
  • 1 2
 @onawalk: Those promoters you raced with were too cheap, then!. I was just looking at something: Google 'Stevie Smith Hafjel Podium' and count.....

....or you may remember Snowshoe

www.facebook.com/athertonbikesco/photos/pcb.3246729012239093/3246728892239105
  • 2 2
 @suspended-flesh: did some more poking, and a quick read of the Cadel Evans story.
Funny that a request by the promoter to award a Junior who admittedly was a rare young talent became something that continued on.
In no other sport, or competition can I find reference to a 4th or 5th place being a podium position. I think it’s something that is unique, and well there it is.

I still don’t understand, but in the interest of sanity, I’ll leave it where it is.


But for real, we don’t really think it’s a podium finish right….my bad…

Friggin ribbons for all!
  • 1 1
 @onawalk: interesting notion on dumbassery. There are linguistic tools by which we can transform words into abstract nouns, adding -ery observes such conventions.
Writing our words so that they represent a toddler's pronunciation is stupid. Are we going to also write constly, definly, litly, simply, etc to also reflect the laziest most incompetent pronunciation?
  • 1 1
 @onawalk: Ribbons and orange slices! Maybe positive affirmation is out of control but don't hate the player hate the game.
  • 2 1
 @suspended-flesh: nope. Didn't have to Google that. Been racing and following this sport for 35+ years. Google didn't exist when they made the 5 person podium.
  • 1 0
 @handynzl: Cool - I did and learned about the Cadel Evans situation that way.
  • 1 1
 @sonuvagun: Seems like you’re just trying to argumentative for the sake of it.
Given you’re understanding of language, and how they are an evolving, living construct, surely you can understand local dialects, and how one might pick something up.

Pretty far from where we started, but keep on trying I guess.
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 @suspended-flesh: And to be clear, I dont hate on anyone about Gwins performance. I hope I made that clear, I want to see him do well, even get back to winning ways.

I guess the idea of a podium to me, would be top three, the inclusion of Cadel Evans at the time made some sense given the location and achievement. I dont agree with it, as I think it dilutes the tradition, etc of what standing on the podium means to everyone outside of MTB, but I’ll try yo keep that to myself….
  • 1 1
 @onawalk: Argumentative for the sake of it? No, I think I provided you a legitimate rationale for both my creation of "dumbassery" and also why this "prolly" thing is regressive (insofaras the way we express ourselves is a reflection of where society is at). But you say it's because of how impressionable you were when you met some Australians, so that's that.
  • 1 1
 @sonuvagun: you’re very right,
My personal use of the word “prolly” both written and oral, prolly isn’t having any large impact, as important as I like to think of myself.
Give your head a shake, you’ve lost sight of what was originally being discussed, and are trying to create an argument of my use of a word, that has no affect on you or anyone else either, but good on ya.
Appreciate your concern, think we will all be just fine.
  • 1 1
 @onawalk: whatever
  • 2 1
 @onawalk: Okay, sorry to bring this up but is this your thinking?
You're against top 5 being considered as podium finishes, cause that's not how it's supposed to be...something to do with some NZ influence.
You replace the word "probably" with the toddler's version, cause language is changeable and fluid ...something to do with some AU influence.

I dunno, maybe I've got you mixed up with someone else.
  • 1 2
 @sonuvagun: I thought it was “whatever”
Have I gotten under your skin a bit?
It’s not worth it man, really it’s not.

My original “gripe” lets say was this notion that 4th and 5th were a podium place, where in every other sport, would not be considered so. I did some research based on another posters info, and recognize where it comes from, and the underlying problem that then likely occurred once that first decision was made. If I’m honest, anything outside of first, is simply not a win, that’s my opinion, and I recognize it’s not the prevailing one. You choose to celebrate what you see fit, I’m cool with it. Maybe I’ve softened my initial stance, but also noted that it’s prolly not a big deal.

I, much like the entire world, do use slang words, some are fairly common to everyone, some prolly not. Not sure why my use of the word is so bothersome to you, but I guess that’s your deal to sort out, not mine.
I’m comfortable enough that your opinion of me, and my choice of words doesn’t bother me.
Keep on keeping on my man
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 @sonuvagun: It was defo not any NZ influence on the 5-person podium. That was totally those 'ockers,

"Prolly" is used colloquially in many places, NZ, Australia, Canada, UK...but should not be confused with brolly which is a colloquism of umbrella.

Can we all ride our bikes now?
  • 1 1
 @handynzl: cheers
  • 1 2
 @onawalk: Well, it was whatever, but then I thought you're probably not even picking up on your own double standard; may as well spell it out for you.
Under my skin? Nah man, you're doing a good job of reminding me how emotional Canadians are these days.
  • 1 2
 @sonuvagun: cool story brah,
Good luck out there, remember to always wear a helmet
  • 1 1
 @onawalk: This again? Different organizers can do as they please. I can also google any number of 5 person podiums but I'm not interested.
  • 4 2
 @suspended-flesh: @onawalk

holy shit... you insecure teenagers. SHUT. THE f*ck. UP.

this post is 10 days old. give your balls... A FIRM... GRASP OF A TUG.

look in the mirror. take a deep breath. and move. on. MOVE. ON.

jesus christ. that or tell me how to unsubscribe from post notifications on pinkbike. dont care which.
  • 2 0
 @lepigpen: I just want you to know that what I assume was a letterkenny reference was appreciated. Also, let this die now.
  • 1 1
 @lyfcycles: PITTER PATTER (storms away from this f*ckin embarrassing childish thread)
  • 2 1
 @lepigpen: LOLZ breh - grow a thicker hide or go to Dasboard > 'gear' icon > Dashboard Settings > unclick stuff.
  • 1 0
 @suspended-flesh: I know, I know,
Just bugging ya!
  • 1 0
 @lepigpen: easy boss,
I was just goofing,
The Letterkenny reference was good, it’s all in good fun
  • 1 0
 @lepigpen: maybe grab me a Puppers while you’re up!
  • 51 0
 Long live chainless!
  • 2 4
 Underrated comment
  • 37 2
 Drinking game; take a drink every time Tracey says “strong”…. Wasted 1/2 way through the ladies field.
  • 4 0
 dead XD
  • 6 9
 it’s like she thinks that’s all it takes
  • 2 1
 Or "composed"
  • 2 0
 I noticed Eliot said it a lot too. I don't think my liver is errr strong enough for this...
  • 36 1
 Myriam was on such a heater. What a bummer!
  • 35 0
 I had tears in my eyes and I’m not even Canadian
  • 16 0
 We're all earthlings, bro - let it out.
  • 32 1
 Such a fitting finish to them Mens. Chainless finish, canadian taking the win continuing stevies legacy and Rob going 'LOOK AT THE TIME!!!'
  • 2 2
 Accidental downvote, didn't mean it!
  • 28 0
 Bodhi Kuhn representing the Kootenays with 4:20. 1st world cup podium, I believe - more to come!
  • 23 0
 Stevie would have been so proud. He was all about attacking a course and Finn destroyed it
  • 22 0
 Why am I crying after a stupid bike race.
  • 2 0
 It's the true Olympus on earth. Guys riding with their souls making the impossible...
  • 21 0
 Blenki in 8. !!!! Stylish is back!
  • 21 1
 So is the track running faster then? 5 seconds faster than Finns qualy? #striderbackround
  • 6 1
 Getting dryer & dryer.
  • 3 1
 We.ve got some fast juniors coming up, can't wait to see them in elite next year, what a stacked field we have!
  • 3 1
 @catalanfc: imagine a syndicated 1,2,3
On the box!
That would be crazy
  • 19 0
 Wow! Congrats to Finn. Looked like he almost lost it right out of the gate and then pulled it off. I didn't think anyone was going to touch Greenland's time.
  • 21 0
 Way to go Bodhi!
  • 2 0
 If he gets signed to a team for next year, he and Tegan Cruz are going to be fun to watch (except it's on Discovery, but still....)
  • 18 0
 Cathro faster than Brayton, Masters, MacDonald, ... insane.
  • 3 19
flag marshieboy69 (Aug 6, 2022 at 12:54) (Below Threshold)
 And all 3 of those are finished
  • 18 0
 Didnt think DH racing could bring tears to my eyes. Congrats, Finn.
  • 15 0
 We were at the finish line and it was one of those few moments in life when thousands of people are 100% happy and completely in unison.
  • 6 0
 This is definitely the happiest I’ve seen Pinkbike comments in a very long time of not ever too! What a day!!
  • 16 0
 Can’t wait to see Goldstone in the men race , such a bummer as always that juniors are not on broadcast
  • 5 2
 Too bad we're gonna have to pay for it..
  • 2 1
 @tadabing: I hope IPTV will solve our issue
  • 17 1
 I told you Gwin wasn’t done.
  • 10 1
 Yeah thats gotta silence the "Dusty track" crowd. Dam good work, I hope he wins one. Hes a few years older than Hill was when he made a comeback in DH, bloody impressive.
  • 2 14
flag SterlingArcher (Aug 6, 2022 at 16:18) (Below Threshold)
 Seems like gwins done.
  • 15 0
 I'm sorry Myriam, I was cheering for you, it's all my fault Frown
  • 10 1
 Gutted for her. Same, same. Put her on the fantasy team for sure after Cami crashed out. Frown
  • 17 3
 Myriam is by far the fastest rider in the women's this year but has had the worst luck in putting down a solid full run.
  • 15 1
 That was f'n crazy. So happy to have witnessed that. WC DH is amazing. FINNNNNNN!!!!!
  • 14 0
 CHILLS! WAY TO GO FINN!!!!!!!! We're gonna miss out on what could've been the best season of FASTLIFE.
  • 13 0
 I can’t %#*^ing believe it!
  • 13 0
 FINN DID THE WIN!! THE LEGACY OF STEVIE LIVES ON!
  • 11 0
 Iles and Greenland handedly beat the field by a pretty good margin. Gwin is trending. That move form CA to TN is paying dividends.
  • 11 2
 When are we allowed to start calling Goldstone and Williams sandbaggers in the Juniors? Their times would've put them 3rd and 5th in elite, which is nuts. I know that happened in Andorra as well, but the conditions of the track were super different. This one feels legit.
  • 11 0
 Shout-out to Rob Warner's shirt.
  • 2 0
 Lol! He must have been up early today - he clearly got dressed in the dark.
  • 9 0
 Oh my god, what a run, Finn ! Chain off at the end, I thought he wasn't gonna make it
  • 11 0
 FINNING!
  • 10 0
 That was amazing. No chain and takes the win. I love this sport!!
  • 10 0
 Stoked to see Blenky back in the top 10
  • 7 1
 Yesterday I had a feeling Finn was going to get his first win today. He has really calmed down and come into his own this year. And to do it without a chain for the 2nd half of the course.... Two Thumbs Up.
  • 9 0
 Bodhi kuhn great time Congrats to all the rest are results
  • 8 0
 FUCK YEAAAAAAAHJHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Canada back on top!!!! Lets go!!!!!!!!!!!! So stoked im all teared up. F ya!
  • 8 0
 Warner drops a BMX background reference
  • 13 0
 Re: Greenland's run, "he was like a kangaroo on a trampoline!"
  • 7 0
 Whoa wtf did the French riders all hit the absinthe before race night?? So rare that they’re not all over the podiums!!
  • 8 0
 So deserved! Stevie would be proud!
  • 8 0
 now that was exciting to watch.
  • 7 0
 Aiming Kenyon smashing run
  • 4 0
 Aimi
  • 4 1
 She's Aiming to win!
  • 8 0
 Blenki in 8th!!
  • 6 0
 Chainsaw saw another canadian winning without a chain. Long life Chainsaw! Long life Downhill!
  • 3 0
 Chainless run for Chainsaw!
  • 10 4
 Goldstone is definitely not human
  • 7 0
 BK for the win
  • 7 0
 Insane run from Lozza
  • 4 0
 Holy crap! That race had everything! Massive win for Finn! Stoked to see Bernard on the podium and Laurie is back!! DH Racing is awesome!
  • 5 0
 #Long live Chainsaw# and I wish Finn and Jackson a long and successful racing career.
  • 2 0
 Anyone know why they mentioned several times during the broadcast that the Steve Smith drop is controversial? Jackson even mentioned it in his course preview. Scrolled through the comments and didn’t see anyone ask this so I’m just curious.
  • 6 2
 Jackson and Amaury just on another level this year. Their consistency is just incredible

(However, I predict Minnaar will win today Cool )
  • 18 0
 Nah, Finn brother.
  • 4 14
flag r0b1-kk (Aug 6, 2022 at 13:07) (Below Threshold)
 That way too inside at the Stevie drop of Amaury looked kinda amateurish tho Razz
  • 6 0
 IM pulling Greg MinGNARR for the win,
  • 4 1
 He was not far from it
  • 1 0
 MSA showed no respect to the world champions.
  • 4 2
 So interesting to see what would had happened... Really strange he crashes... He is risking like a Junior now with 40
  • 2 0
 @PauRexs: Amazing hey, he knows you have to step over the line to win in the 'new era' and seems committed to hanging it out; but then again, he was always the big gap guinea pig back in the day.
  • 6 0
 PROOF! Finn is Savage!!!! Congrats man!
  • 7 1
 Finn you absolutely bloody legend (making grown men cry too boy)
  • 6 1
 That Goldstone time is 4 seconds faster than Finn's qually time...
  • 8 0
 ...and he wins the overall (now more than 60 points ahead of Williams), massive year for him.
  • 1 0
 Track was still a bit muddy and slick in the woods and top yesterday. The elite men winning time is probably going to be bonkers.
  • 2 0
 Holy shit, that RedBull bike theme song at the start of the broadcast is terrifying if you have it open on a tab in the background (waiting for the coverage to start) and forget about it! haha!
  • 5 0
 Okay lets go Finn! Its go time
  • 6 0
 YEAH FINN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 5 0
 Finn for the win! Amazing run, so happy for him.
  • 3 0
 THAT. WAS. AWESOME!!!!! So happy for Finn. That was an amazing run. And it had to be because Laurie's run was something else as well.
  • 1 0
 I don't get one thing: 5 years ago, when Gwin won in the pouring rain, I had to wake up at 5 or 6 in the morning to watch the race live. Now it was in the evening here in Central Europe, as it should be, as Mont Saint Anne is 6 hours behind. So why was the race in 2017 at 6 o'clock in the morning?! What am I missing? If it's stupid, be kind! Peace!
  • 6 0
 FINNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!
  • 5 1
 I can not even imagine watching next years dh worldcup without Warner. that race was epic!
  • 6 0
 Way to go Finn!!
  • 6 0
 And Laurie too, that could so easily have been a massive win. What a race
  • 2 0
 @AndrewHornor: damn finally a comment for the man!. That 5 inch wide gap perfect consisten run...
  • 1 0
 @PauRexs: yeah, it's too bad such an amazing run was overshadowed like this. Both absolutely killed it!
  • 5 0
 Woohooo should have watched this instead of the Rugby.
  • 4 0
 Blenky in 8 and Tuhoto in 11, thats the best Kiwi results in a long time! Yeoowww. Let Finn In!!!!
  • 5 0
 No french on podium for first time in how long?
  • 1 0
 Hot damn, even without competing in qualifications and finals, Camille Balanche is still leading the overall. Now that is dominance. I haven't done the math but I suppose she would already have taken the series if she had made it on the podium at MSA. Still hoping she'll make a quick (and proper) recovery and manages to secure that title.
  • 5 0
 Oh Canada
  • 3 0
 Finn you are the BEAST!!! What a story, unbelievable emotions! I can't catch my breath!
  • 2 0
 FInn Iles, casi me hace dar un infarto! Increible Carrera. Lastima por Minnaar, era mi favorito. Pero mis respetos por Finn. Terrible Mousntruo
  • 1 0
 Where is Kade Edwards? He rides for a factory team but seems to have just bowed out of the world cups without any explanation! Trek Factory Racing had no riders all all at MSA!
  • 1 0
 He's been out injured for the last few rounds.
  • 4 0
 Amazing race .. ignore the F-Bomb Finn !! Smile
  • 4 0
 I think it helped show how stoked he was and really put the correct emphasis on the crowd’s reaction. Proper use of the sentence enhancer
  • 2 0
 Incredible riding. Champagne offered to our friends over the pond, seems like there will be a lot more to come from Finn!! What a race!
  • 3 0
 Yep… I cried absolutely epic. A race that will always be remembered. #makehistory
  • 3 0
 Great to see Finn, Laurie and Bernie swiggin' the champers! Plus congrats to all the Kiwis for a brilliant showing.
  • 3 0
 Don't think I've seen a race that had my heart beating so hard since Chainsaw's in 2013! SO GOOD!!!
  • 3 1
 Jackson Goldstone on a 4.13. I can't imagine the course would have changed that much today. That lad is going to be a rockstar if he keeps this up. Presents himself well too.
  • 1 0
 With Camille out at this race Will Myriam regret not at least trying to ride out the run with the flat? She probably could of finished 2-4 places higher giving her potentially 30-40 more points.
  • 4 0
 Oh my god Finn. !!!!
  • 1 0
 Finn! Insane freaking run!!! ...with half of the track with no chain??! I was wondering why is he not sprinting to the finish...YA BOYY!!!
  • 3 0
 Top 10 for Blenki (8th) stoked!!!
  • 2 0
 Such an exciting contrast to Snowshoe last week. This season has a great variety of tracks!
  • 3 2
 Is starting hut straight to 2:50 down the track the best they can do? Really? Not saying we need to see every corner but 60%+ of the course is just ignored....
  • 5 1
 It's because of starting times. Top20 in quali gets more broadcast time.
  • 4 0
 @lettak: he's talking about the track coverage rather than the number of riders
  • 1 0
 This is the thing that strikes me when people compare EWS coverage to DH coverage, as though the DH coverage is perfect. They show relatively little of the course despite having a way bigger budget and logistically it being significantly easier (covering 1 course vs. 5-6 through a day).

It's just hard, and the way that the RB coverage is this patchy (in terms of course shown) despite how much experience they have doesn't lead me to believe things are likely to suddenly improve for the EWS any time soon.

I guess we'll find out next year what all that sweet sweet Discovery money can do...
  • 4 0
 LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO
  • 4 1
 Goldstone's time puts him 3rd in Elite, holy crap!
  • 1 0
 In slippier wetter track. Jackson and Jordan were amazing!

#Finnfothewin
  • 4 0
 Best race since 2013.
  • 2 0
 Looks like the new Demo will need a long cage. Great job Finn, happy birthday
  • 3 0
 Gwins getting number 6 next year.
  • 3 0
 too bad greg went off, he was pretty much on the way for another podium
  • 1 0
 Congrats to Finn, he fricken deserves it. Hell of an effort! Wicked loose riding. Fun to watch! Nod to Gwin too...way to get after it duuuude!
  • 5 3
 Riders remember- this lap is for Stevie
  • 2 0
 Greenland's time seems unbeatable
  • 3 0
 What a race!
  • 2 0
 Ethan Craik 7th!!! Amazing! Well done that lad
  • 4 3
 Will Holl make the hold up again and win the tittle ? She rides well , but deam she is just so lucky …
  • 1 0
 Women's top 3 after MSA (feel free to check my math, please):

Cami - 1335 points
Vali - 1216
Myriam - 1155
  • 4 1
 Awesome run Finn
  • 2 0
 FINN FOR THE WIN!!!
This is amazing. I‘m so happy for him
  • 2 0
 Finn! This was legendary!
  • 3 0
 Ag up there again!
  • 2 0
 Goldstone and Williams both inside Elite podium times.
  • 3 0
 GOLD phucking STONE!!!
  • 2 0
 What a great podium for this track. Makes me happy
  • 2 0
 I am so bummed this wont be covered in red bull fast life.
  • 1 0
 Amazing stuff! So happy for Fin, what a win and a legacy. Boost Bro performed as expected! Haha
  • 2 0
 Fuck ya boys!!!
  • 1 0
 The WGA are gonna be so stoked on this win
  • 1 0
 MS...eh? Canadian downhill looks to be strong in the near future.
  • 1 0
 Is getting Cathro'd a thing?
  • 2 0
 Delicious
  • 1 0
 nice to see spectators instead of riders in the open grass section
  • 17 20
 Status update: The wife stormed off the place in rage which is my fault and has NOTHING to do AT ALL with her being premenstruell. I'm happy with a drink or two and the live stream, hoping she won't be back before the men's race is over...
  • 8 1
 Stay strong, thoughts and prayers with you
  • 5 1
 sounds like best case scenario
  • 1 0
 Ronan Dunne with a nice run.
  • 2 0
 Finn for the winnnnn!
  • 1 0
 Stoked for Finn!

What happened to Amaury?
  • 5 1
 His bike got tired and took a nap right after the Stevie Smith Drop
  • 1 1
 Amaury is now only 249 points up on Finn so he did not lock the overall today. If he scores 0 points at Val Di Sole and Finn wins qualifying and finals again it goes to Finn. Otherwise Amaury will win the overall next race.
  • 5 0
 @tbmaddux: Pretty sure there are no qualification points in the final race of the season, the quali points are added to the points available for the top 20 results in men's, and top 10 for women e.g. 250 points for the win.
  • 6 0
 @tbmaddux: from what I remember they usually only award points for the race and not qually for the final round. So it will be all or nothing in the race. Amuary would be smart to qualify mid pack and cruise down early and safely to pick up the few points he needs. But I expect he'll just go full send as usual...
  • 4 0
 He went way inside/off line on the Stevie Smith drop, had to make a 90 degree turn at the bottom but the loose ground didn't let him, rode straight into the berm and couldn't save it.
  • 1 0
 @Malky79: ok then Finn has to win and Amaury has to score 0
  • 4 0
 I hope Amaury isn't concussed from that crash - it looked like his helmet bounced pretty hard off the ground. And if he did get a concussion I hope the team learned something about handling those better after Myriam's experience of not taking enough recovery time earlier this season.
  • 1 1
 My fantasy team is blown! Bloody Frenchies throwing it away today with punctures and Crashes!
  • 1 0
 Overall standings have Laurie 3rd and brosnan 2nd...?
  • 1 0
 in MSA
  • 1 0
 Dang. 3 points separating 5 through 8 in the men’s overall
  • 2 0
 Finn!!!
  • 2 1
 U 3n42 9
  • 1 0
 that shit was wild
  • 1 0
 CONGRATS FINN!!!
  • 1 2
 Jackson time only good enough for third place, losing his golden touch I reckon
  • 1 0
 I guess 3rd in the world is only good enough nowadays
  • 1 0
 FINN FOR THE WIN!
  • 1 1
 would be great if they would just televise it
  • 2 2
 Enough complaining. Next year it’s gonna be 10x worse
  • 5 0
 @mc-marshie69: I am afraid we all will be resigned to rewatching all these races on Red Bull to get our downhill fix.
  • 2 3
 did well on this weeks Fantasy DH.....Iles, Kerr, Hoffman, Blewitt, even Wyn and Brayton scored a few points in the final!
  • 1 0
 Finncredible.
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