Final Results from the Snowshoe World Cup DH #2 2021

 That was brutal.

 Awful

 Shades of reece wilson getting sent out the front door but unfortunately she smashed into the up slope

I cant help but think they red flagged mille johnsett way to late into her run.

 @McMeta666: Yeah agreed, I can't see why with so few riders they can't let them finish their runs before the next one starts. At least they'd get red flagged at the start gate then.

 I don’t understand how they let another rider start immediately after that crash. You’d think they’d relay info to the top to wait.

 @llaama: She was already on track. The crash was pretty far down. The intervals are 30-60 seconds I believe. They don’t have time in the day to let every rider have a full run before the next rider starts.

 @McMeta666: 30 seconds gap means Mille was already almost alll the way down when jessica Blewitt crashed, same for Hoffman.

 @kylar: got it, thanks.

 @ORTOGONAL555: Yeah i imagined that was the case but it looked like she didnt get a red flag until she was pretty much at the acident site. Considering it looked like blewitt went down and just didnt move at all before the camera cutaway i would have thought it would have been sensible to just throw the flag right then and there.

 It ain't over til it's over. Just fking unbelievable. Congrats vali, tough luck for pom... I bet she can already taste it.

 Is there any update on her status?

 I hope so too. I was near the bottom when they were getting her into the cart to get down to the ambulance. She was in a lot of pain. After talking to a course marshal, there was a slight misunderstanding at first about how badly hurt she was.

 @mtb1101: Absolutely gutted for Jess. One of the rising stars of our sport. She has a fractured lower leg & possibly fractured wrist & collarbone.

 I was right there where she crashed and it was a complete fail that the next two riders weren't stopped by the marshals. There were 1 minute gaps at the time so tell other riders on course. I heard she broke her femur and messed up her shoulder

 @THEBIKEFIX: wow, best wishes for a full and speedy recovery.

 @llaama: she crashed at the bottom. The next rider was already on track.

 @tim-from-pa: you do understand that that means that the marshall at the point where Jessica crashed had about 60 seconds to assess whether the situation called for a course hold, which also needs to be communicated to all the marshals further up on the course to be effective at all, which may not even be that marshal's call, thereby having to decide whether to interfere with the whole race and potentially the whole season, or whether Jessica could be safely moved of the course and be looked after outside the tape, while they would probably also be asking why they volunteered for the sh*** job in the first place....

Yes, this is a 6 line sentence, and it probably took you about as long to read and to discipher before deciding whether to hit reply as that marshal had to make their much more consequential decision. I hope Jessica is alright and I am gutted for Mille, she was on her way to a great result, but I cannot see a complete fail on on anybody's part in this situation.

 @tim-from-pa:
Agreed. We were right next to.the double double and the TWO flaggers decided to actively not flag because they though the rider couldn't stop there. This was after the words non responsive and clusterf*ck had come over the radio

 @Andy-FFM: were you there? she was laying on the ground screaming right after the landing on the giant double near the finish. i guarantee there was plenty of time for the marshals to stop the riders on the flat just above where the last split was, the marshal up there even had his red flag out before the next rider but barely waved it and let two girls go right past him

 @tim-from-pa: I was there. I was a course marshal a good bit higher on the mountain (just below where the course crossed the lift). A few observations:
1. we were basically told red flags are last resort. reserved for un-responsive riders in the racing line. That makes you hesitant to pull it out.
2. it takes a while for the communication to make it up the mountain to all the marshals from the chief marshal, we do the best we can but we're all volunteers with different perceptions of what is the correct action to take. If UCI wants paid marshals that all have experience etc, they can do that but honestly it worked. Aside from the injured rider, the course got closed and only 2 other riders were on the course at the time.
3. the two riders that went past me with my red flag, IN THE TRACK and directly in their face, were very clearly just heading down to catch the lift back up. They were very aware of the red flag. Stopping right at the red flag does them no good. They have to get down somehow.. I was frustrated at first that they didn't stop but in hindsight it makes sense.
4. red flags basically at the end of the track are the worst scenario (from a race management standpoint), as you are much more likely to have other riders on course. Had this happened at the cupcake road gap up at the tip top, this would have turned out very different.

my two cents...

 Crazy none of the other injuries require surgery. But the sound of someone breaking a femur is always the worst thing ever. Hate that I watched it live and couldn't know ahead of time. Hope that girl takes all the time she can in offseason to ease back into things. It's a lifestyle-altering crash to say the least.

 Thanks Mark

 @zyoungson: it's a downhill track. It's meant to challenge. Take out the rocks, roots and jumps and you have a bike trail. We could all race that type of track. I did notice before Jess's crash, in the pedal section, her front tire looked a bit soft. I replayed it in slo-mo. She bump jumped a tree root, leaned to the left, just like a handful of other riders did. But, it sent her kinda to the right, which it shouldn't have. When her front wheel landed, it still went to the right, not sure if it was a rock or soft front tire that caused it. Looked like she was maybe cross rutted, and hit the lip kinda sideways and suspension fully compressed. I kinda think it was tire related. I've had stuff like that happen before with a soft front, it's a guessing game where you're going. That's just some bad luck. Hope she heals up and comes back stronger.

 @oldschool43: I too had a good look about fifty times in slo-mo on Youtube and you are spot on about her tyres moving around and they played a part in what happened next, which I think I've figured out. Her tyres drifted just as she's approached the lip, they've slid to the right as if she's gonna Bubba scrub the jump. As she's hit the transition of the jump, she wasn't able to put weight into the bars and her bars have come up under her chin. Essentially, her legs compressed the rear suspension but her arms did not compress the fork. So as she's going off the lip, the rear suspension has decompressed but the front suspension did not since it wasn't compressed at all, which means she is tipped forward and on such a long jump she just kept rotating while airborne.

And note this has nothing to do with rear rebound being too fast like people say on Friday fails, it is about a massive imbalance in decompression fore and aft which started a rotation as she's coming off the lip.

If I'm travelling at speed to a big hump, I can either absorb it with my arms and legs (I stay low), or I can push against the hump with my arms and legs and boost off it (I go high). But imagine what would happen if I absorbed it with my arms but boosted it with my legs? The front would stay low and the rear would go high = me getting airborne and rotating around my Z-axis. I think that's what happened to poor Jessica.

Obviously I'm not her, and there is no statement from her AFAIK, but this is how it looks to me at 0.25 speed at 22s on this video:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOxB0LzVoPQ

 Hugs and healing to Jess Blewitt! She had a complete ripper of a run before the mishap! What a talent. Wishing for full recovery and good spirits.

 Genuinely just gasped out loud when I saw it happen! What an awful way to lose the race. As they say though, that's racing!

 @c-radicallis: "Commencal team"? They've got SIX TEAMS racing the WC this season. And they're doing well. Crashes happen. Still, how many riders do they get on the overall podium?

 Yeah, he's an alien...
...and congratulations to Luca Shaw for his 5th place; this guy is more and more in touch with the best riders and will certainly shine in a near future... he's a good lad

 @danstonQ: Yes, congrats to Luca! I hope this gives a confidence boost so he can be a consistent podium threat again like he seemed to be a few seasons ago. Disappointed for Loris, but Loic is a worthy winner.

 @danstonQ: son of l'ET

 There is not feeling pressure and then there is dealing with pressure. Remember when Bruni kept crashing when leading a few years ago and everyone was saying the opposite? He's got his mental game well sorted.

 @danstonQ: yeah cool to see Luca do well, he had such a great energy in the last Wyn TV, seemed like he was feeling on his game

 For some people pressure is performance enhancing fuel, for most others it will crush you

 maximum chad energy

 Watch Loic's post race interview. FUCK YES

 Troy Brosnan: Hold my Vegemite on toast.

 So many F-bombs Rob stopped apologizing. It's the go-to word nowadays. The Puritan Era is coming to an end.

 Reminds me of the first thing he said to Gwin after the chainless win: "You motherf___r"

But he's Australian, so...

 What did he say? Lost this

 @singlerider: "You motherf____r got me. Point four you f___king c__________t!!! [indecipherable] happy, so... f___ing happy, so good work, good work."

I think the vibe of those one or two words I can't decipher means Troy thought he himself had had a good run and was happy with it, "so good work, good work" to Loic.

It's at 1:55:40 in the Red Bull replay.

 @iamamodel: hahahahaha such a nice report

 It seems strange from here that in the US you can have freedom and assault rifles, but cannot say fück.
Cheers!

 @likehell: you’re totally right, it is strange. American culture is very schizophrenic. And in some ways it hasn’t come far from its Puritan roots.

 Troy Brosnan...hold my beer

 @chris-brown225: loic took that championship too

 @chris-brown225: Hold my mother flipping beer

 @chris-brown225: Troy can say whatever he wants after putting in a run like that and coming second!

I love how candid he is on the podium. At last years World Champs the way he congratulated Reece was such pure Aussie!

 @joshroppo: he seems so genuine, loved that moment

 ...

 Too true. Makes the team look like crash test dummies.

 @Swordfish23: I keep wanting to see a Creamsicle logo on those euro pajamas they got for riding kit LOL

 Reminiscent of okapi legs

 Like the classic Pittsburgh Pirates uniform.

 You aren't kidding. I love the Athertons and their team riders, but they should lose the stripes and just go with a solid color.

 @llaama: I wonder if Brookes been secretly wearing that kit under the Mondraker strip then?

 My partner's call is the look like whos from Whoville. And now I can't unsee it!

 You're just mad because someone dropped a house on your sister.

 He'd have been in for a chance at the top spot for sure!!! Gutting but he can end this season knowing he was right on the pace. So happy for SuperBruni though, I can never be sad to see him do well! so deserved!

 His post race interview had me almost in tears… He had my support when I saw him in earthed 5

 Yes, Angel, great to see him end the season with his best ever result!

 It's true, and if you look at the division before landing on the Val Di Sole floor, you'll see that Angel had a similar time to Greg's. Greetings.

 Troy Brosnan = real Fair play in this situation.

 @arcyeti: Troy Brosnan being the ambassador Australia needs now that the French Ambassador had been pulled out of Australia. And on US soil too.

 @iamamodel: Bike diplomacy doesn't need ambassador contrary to politics... fortunately mountainbike seems still out of policy litigation ! That's why this sport is breathable

 Same here. So cool to see Bruni win it all again at snowshoe. He's got to love this track by now haha.

 Win or lose, he'll be on the booze.

 For those of not watching - what happened?

 @kev-bike: Jess Blewitt had a huge crash.

 @kev-bike: Jess Blewitt had a terrible crash ahead of her

 @kev-bike: She was bucked on a big double and went over the bars, hit the backside of the landing

 @Burningbird: And on top of her!

 Nina Hoffman got red flagged as well. This is a long course hold. Scary stuff.

 @kev-bike: INSANITY! I had to get up a couple hours later than I usually do to watch - make the commitment!

 Johnset's time at split 4 on that first race run today was 3:24.076 (which was just before she was stopped). On her second race run she was 3:22.572 at split 4.

 @paulcd: yeah I made a note of times to compare. Pretty amazed that she did pretty much a full run and race pace and had half an hour to recover to go again and hit it hard. Pretty strong effort

 @src248: is there any update on Blewitt’s condition?

 @rrice: scroll down for an update from THEBIKEFIX. Not good but could have been worse I guess. Heal up quick Jess.

 Snowshoe must hate Commencal. And Fox.

 @NeilMackie: end enve

 @kanasasa: And current World Champions.

 That's racing and that's why we fucking love it. Hell of a race, both the women's and mens!

 Congratulations Izabela. Well deserved. What a promising champion!

 @TobiasHandcock: reading comprehension much?

 @TobiasHandcock: Yung GOAT - Lil' GOAT - feel him now?

 Absolutely, she really turned it around. It was nice to see a 20 years old learn so fast and get back into a positive groove and start enjoying riding again and subsequently winning again. She was visibly making an effort to be more positive and engaged with her fellow riders. A real positive story. Was critical of her myself, as were others, but couldn't be happier for her now. Can't wait to see her in 2022, she'll be unstoppable. Would be nice to see her and Myriam to head to head at every round.

 @mccarthyp: I hope Noga charges for the good vibes

 Amazing!! What a race!

 Nice hours indeed. What a fvkkin women's race for the overall.

 Gotta feel for Troy always right there!

 @pbfan08: yeah definitely hey. Woke up at 2am to watch it and cried myself back to sleep hahaha

 Rolls…

 its like its his first time with a red bull provided gimbal and he's having the time of his life... weeeeee

 Yeah, cos that also means lactic acid not breast milk. Always caused a giggle in school when we did the beep test and the PE teacher would say we'd be building up lactate.

 @kylar: "not just breast milk" I meant to type.

 AKA lactic acid - waste product of anaerobic respiration in animals

 I really want an update on the condition of the apple, can we get someone trackside?

 @chris-brown225: The apple got hairlifted and is currently having a surgery. We wish it a juicy recovery.

 Can we get an in-cider?

 Jackson, Tristan and Finn. Canada is going to be dominating the podium soon!

 Somebody get Kirk McDowell overseas! Under the radar. 20th, and I believe 34th in the first race

 @trickland: Yep consistently great, and the BC champ. I think its McDowall tho with an A !

 I think Rob said, they switched to showing more of the last riders' runs which messed with the timing of when we saw the start. They basically showed Vali's start earlier than they should have so had to wait for most of a minute for her to come to the first timing split. You can see how it works if you watch the UCI live timing at the same time as the TV feed. Related to this, it sounded from something Warner said that because of the delay from the women's race we got to see more of the earlier male starters.

 @The-Foiling-Optimist: Thanks - good intel. I was glad she hadn't crashed when the feed sync'd up

 @anonimous666: qq isso cara

 Set your alarm next year.

 Wonder if Reece would have smoked that 2 sec gap with chain... My bed is yes!

 It's west coaster than East Virginia.

 This is a good point. With a rearward axle path, the wheel still has to confront the square edge at some point and the further forward the riders mass is from the rear wheel the more it's pulling the wheel into the square edge

 Trek doesn’t make chains bro… unless your trying to blame the idler pulleys which a couple editors here may agree with you .

 @pbfan08: When I read his statement, at no point did I interpret it as trek making the chains. Two treks did break chains. They were likely sram XX1, but they were still on the trek platform.

 It looked like Reece just dropped the chain not brake it. I blame the idler..

 Trying not to spoil anything if you haven’t seen the short track yet but another broken Trek chain at the start line! That is crazy, actually.

 Let me re-phrase: not “a broken Trek chain” but “a broken chain on a Trek”

 Wonder if Reece would have smoked that 2 sec gap with chain... My bed is yes.

 @PauRexs: This is getting steamy!

 @PauRexs: I bet he would. A real bummer.

 Agreed Elliot has become a good commentator, he has developed and improved a lot over the season. Tracy on the other hand... It's hard to listen to, I really want her to get better as it is good to get the female racers perspective during the women's race, but the commentary isn't great.

 @ODY89: yeah she always say the same thing over and over.
But commenting isn't easy. Friends will give feedback and she will improve.

 @t-stoff: yeah agreed I'm sure it is very tricky to do. And I hope that if Red Bull are sticking with her then they provide with some training to help the process as they have for Rob

 Absolutely gutted for Jess. One of the rising stars of our sport! She has a fractured lower leg & possibly a fractured wrist & collarbone.

 @THEBIKEFIX: that obviously really sucks but honestly - seeing that crash I thought it could have been way worse….

 @THEBIKEFIX: she was killing it too 6 seconds up. Hope she has a full recovery and makes a comeback.

 See the headline on PB - Don;t read this article - watch the Replay on redbulltv.com - ya big dummy! Hugs

 Technically it's her second season, but yea it kinda is the first time she got to race elites.

 Nicolas Vouilloz won the overall in 1995; technically this wasn’t his first elite season in the World Cup because, I believe, Juniors and Elite Men weren’t separate categories in the World Cup back then. But in 1994 he was still a junior in the World Champs race (where a separate category existed). If I remember righty he had the fastest time of the day, faster than Francois Gachet, who won the elite men category.

 Anne Caro

 @cheaterbruni: what you're saying is a pure nonsense, as well as your pseudo by the way.

 You can't beat 2019 Snowshoe. Every split Danny past changed the overall standings. It was nerve wracking top to bottom. Whereas Daprela was probably in a hospital bed by the time the race started. Was wild to watch Loris and Loic come down though. Snowshoe makes for a hell of a last race.

 That was givin me PTSD. I think a lot of us have been through a traumatic stack. I NEVER watch friday fails. Every now and then you just come across a video of something like that and it's awful. You know how tough these athletes are, what they go through regularly, so to be stuck on the ground and only be able to holler in pain... And then the long delay, it's chilling. Hope she gets all the treatment and time needed to ease back in with the offseason. Insane what some riders storm through, like Luca riding with fractured wrist. I can't imagine. Especially at Snowshoe jesus...

 Someone else wrote that she broke her femur, wrist, collar bone and back, so yeh....screams!!! Bloody ouch!

 Vali's lines were insane. Seemed like the same pace but objectively better lines. Even had a rough leap off the rock drop and still put serious time into Tahnee.

 Yeah, she was in better mental form than Myriam, learned a lot from Leogang. Great run!

 Because they know she's gonna dominate for the next few years.

 No doubt she's super talented, but she seems quite similar to the way Gwin was. In a great mood with everyone when she's doing well but doesn't seem to have much time for the other girls when she isn't, maybe that's why they aren't as friendly with her? What do I know though, I'm just a viewer on the sidelines, it could be completely different!

 She isn't exactly Humble

 At least they are polite enough to congratulate her...

 Vali is super talented, hyper confident and just won overalls in her first season. What's not to like? :-)

 There are plenty of other riders there that seem to be happy to congratulate her, at least based on the feed.

 It shows that you do not know me either of the two.

 It is lonely at the top.

 Only Tahnee - Myrian has been very nice to her. Don;t know what the bad blood is with Seagrave. Rachel wasn;t the most friendly with Tahnee either when she began challenging her. These women are competitors and not all feel like tossing the heart emojis around

 As far as I can see they all get along well. Valentina has made a lot of effort to fit in and enjoy riding and the competition, seems like she is fitting in very well. A lot of nerves and pressure today, plus the red flag will have unsettled everyone, and they'll no doubt be upset to have one of their fellow riders have such a massive accident. Everyone was a little stunned at the end, even us viewers. As far as I can see Valentina is polite and is visibly making an effort to be a good sport. Looking forward to seeing her next season. Sorry for Myriam as that must be hard to take - I am sure she'll be back stronger than ever next season.

 @suspended-flesh: Tahnee and Vali were chatting in the hot seats.

 @beermtb: I did notice that.

 She is friendly with most of them in her VLogs.

 If it's you. She gets along well with the group, especially the French.

 I think she’s just feeling the pressure. It can’t be relaxing.

 Its just you. What a stupid thing to say.

 Don't know, but I would recommend to every contender to do as Sir Minaar does waiting to celebrate till the rider finished and not jump straight after competitor had bad luck...

 Seems to be how he handles situation where he doesn't know what to say, as Rob talks about the horrible crash in the womens race and elliott goes for a cheeky giggle... Just... Why

 Really kind of disrespectfull commenting from elliot today, first few rides ist was just some random blablabla after barely mentioning the riders name.

 Elliott's commentating is great. Nice to have someone doing something other than just saying what is happening on screen. We can all see that already and Warner has it covered. Co coms is best when I gives background info and hype. Best thing to happen to the race coverage getting him onboard

 @hitmansam: I can‘t listen to Elliot. So disrespectful to riders and too much giggling.

 The fact that he laughed about Blewitt's crash should disqualify him from ever doing commentary again.

 @SuperGeek: didn't see the women's race. Did that actually happen? If so, very poor judgement.

 Very frustrating listening to these fill ins with Rob, even Nigel Page back in the Freecaster days was better in-sync with Rob than Claudio, Elliot or Tracey... Claudio just makes annoying noises, talks over Rob and contradicts him all the time, and if he's right when Rob's wrong he just doesn't let it go in every comment. Elliot just giggles and makes noises all the time too, has some good insights but overall doesnt offer much at all, worse than Claudio Tracey again always buts in with Rob and always saying sorry, keeps repeating the same thing over and over and stumbling over her words, the worst of the bunch. Reece Wilson on the other hand.... he has a long successful dh career ahead of him but will be a great replacement for Rob when the time comes, I'd love to hear Gee or Grandad in the box with Rob too, I think they would both be great

 @ctd07: the part that annoys me is that not every one is suited or good to improvise and comment on live tv, still instead of searching and trialling for talents they just stick on what's in and that's it. I think every new face will improve with time, but some people are just good naturally, you don't need to force anyone as there are plenty of people to fill in.

 @ctd07: Guys did you watch/hear the World's trough Eurosport or other none RB channels? World never going to be perfect. This commentors in RB I ll say it's some of the best all around sports shows... They are doing school around...

 Probably not long lol

 He's got one more full season in junior

 And always focused on freeride in the past I believe

 @G3V162F: freeride is king, just doesnt pay the bills....

 @G3V162F: plus media, sponsor promotions, events; he definitely does it all!

 @mitch1616: at the top levels it probably does, just like DH

 He's going to be bigger and stronger next year, too. I expect he'll crush the other juniors, and likely be looking up to pace with the elite men.

 That American crowd was great. Glad to see so many out there attending.

 Watch the replay

 Wouldn’t be if people weren’t rushing through it… finish line is not going anywhere folks…

 @cpscotti: haha

 Aren’t they all…