First Impressions: Tom Bradshaw & Christina Chappetta Ride the Best Trails in Tallahassee, Florida

Jun 6, 2022
by Pinkbike Originals  

Tom Bradshaw and Christina Chappetta headed southeast across the continent to Tallahassee, Florida. Mountain biking probably isn't the first thing that comes to mind when you think of Tallahassee, but Tom and Christina spend a day being pleasantly surprised checking out the state capital's trails. Following a route plan from the President of the Tallahassee Mountain Bike Association (TMBA), they explore the miles of hand built singletrack, man made features and even a few laps of the Velosolution Pumptrack.

Their ride squeezed in two riding zones, Redbug on the Northern edge of the City, and Tom Brown Park connected via bike lanes to the East. Tom and Christina barely scratched the surface in their short trip with Visit Tallahassee, but left impressed, and glad to avoid any incident during the mid-ride gator encounter.


Tallahassee mountain biking trails



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Tallahassee, Tom Brown Park


164 Comments

  • 112 1
 Would I ride these trails if I lived in Florida? Absolutely.

Would I visit Tallahassee specifically to ride these trails? Uh....
  • 2 10
flag KK11 (Jun 6, 2022 at 12:30) (Below Threshold)
 …double dose of CC! Lol
  • 3 0
 I thought that floridian north shores were alligators' spines. I'm disappointed.
  • 1 2
 I would have liked those trails when I was there at the FSU as an 8year old kid. But way back in 1967 my parents sure wouldn't have let me, there were so many slums and shabby barracks and ponds with alligators, never did we even go for a walk.
  • 1 0
 I've actually been making the 3hrs drive to Tallahassee for the riding over the past couple years. I have a few trails closer, but I've ridden them so much over many many years that I like the change...and...there is at least a little elevation to enjoy more speed, and some of the trails are loads of fun! Similar quality to N. Carolina(with less elevation, obviously).
And...the other part...this state has become so crowded..and so much development that driving certain areas is a major frustration and annoyance, so I don't even bother, and judging by the clear cutting on my way to some trails...the drive may become impossible in a couple years.
  • 3 0
 Ocala has pretty good trails too, I saw Cam Zink ripping them a couple years ago
  • 4 2
 @GlassGuy: Hats off to you for driving 3 hrs to get there. That is some mtb dedication. I hope I never get to the point of taking our almost endless trail networks here on the North Shore for granted,
  • 2 1
 @rrolly: Yeah..gotta do whatcha gotta do for the fix! I'm not a fan of cold so I have always lived at a beach(FL. and HI)..I do a lot of urban assault stuff to keep everything moving properly, and beach sprints...once a week or so have to drive to a trail, and the occasional trip further north to get into some real elevation. Anytime I think about moving to a mountainous area I consider all the extra clothes, slow starts to the day and even not being able to ride for weeks or months due to cold. I guess I'm kind of a sissy! ha ha
  • 2 2
 How long does it take for the Swamp-ass to take hold?
  • 4 0
 @suspended-flesh: Give or take 10 minutes. Sometimes less.
  • 2 0
 @FloridaHasMTBToo: Starting when you kit up, not start riding, yeah?
  • 3 0
 @pmhobson: It starts the second you wake up and then BAM! swamp ass.
  • 2 0
 @FloridaHasMTBToo: I grew up in Atlanta. I know this all too well. Our swamp-ass season was a little shorter for sure, but still noteworthy.
  • 2 0
 @pmhobson: there is no such thing as swamp ass season because it's year round.
  • 2 0
 @rrolly: as a transplant from the West coast of BC down to flat AF Florida. Don't EVER take for granted the pure loam gold you (and I used to) have up there. Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep depression over here my man. Like marinas trench deep.
  • 2 0
 @CDT77: Sorry to hear that. Do you have any swamp-ass experience to share?
  • 2 0
 @suspended-flesh: notta other than it feels like I inhaling 50% air 50% liquid with the gawd awful humidity as a grind around 1 of the 10 million tight as turns that lead seem pointless and then am massively disappointed with 'double black feature ahead!' sign that ends up something my 8yr old can send. FFS..
  • 1 2
 @CDT77: maybe don't move to Florida expecting BC-esque trails. Or don't whine about it and enjoy what you have.
  • 1 0
 @FloridaHasMTBToo: Didn't expect BC-esque trails. But can't erase my memory of the type of riding I am used to. If you want to know the truth - I simply stopped riding in FLA completely. Its not my jam, and just not worth it. That being said -> huge props to the ppl who've built what FLA does have, I can respect all the hard work thats gone into the local systems. PS. I do have higher hopes for Tally tho.. will dust of the whip for some runs there.
  • 101 8
 I grew up riding in Tallahassee, and I tell people here all the time some of my absolute favorite trails are back home. I would ride Redbug or Cadillac 5x/week and look forward to every single lap. It's a different riding style and mentality, but to be honest, my experiences riding in Denver/Front Range over the past decade make me really appreciate where I came from.

Aside from the absence of mountains, there's something different about riding in the South. Maybe it's truck culture - perhaps the sedentary, envious old white f*cks who haven't exercised since high school football team - that necessitates a much tighter knit cycling community that what we have out here. MTB is not a resort sport in North Florida. The trails we have there exist because the relatively tiny proportion of riders banded together to make them happen - in the face of a generally disinterested city commission and often hostile local population (NIMBYs, sometimes scary rednecks). I know this is actively changing for the better in some regards, but it's still a fight that most riders in the MTB meccas (think Front Range, Asheville, Bellingham, etc.) will never experience.

There is a level of respect, community, and frankly trail etiquette there you will not find among the entitled masses on Colorado trails. Granted, you could not pay me to move back to Tallahassee given a number of factors well outside of the MTB community, but it holds a special place for sure.
  • 9 0
 When my wife was in grad school at FSU, we lived just 1/4 mile from the western end of the trails attached to Tom Brown Park. I had a great time riding with the folks from Higher Ground bike shop, and did hundreds of miles down there.
  • 7 0
 interesting perspective/insight, well put
  • 23 1
 Front range bike culture is unique to anything else. Everyone thinks they are *so* fast, *so sick*, and on their way to the EWS. It's so weird.
  • 9 0
 @fullendurbro: Squamish is like this as well, so not unique at all.
  • 6 2
 @kwl1: Only difference is I imagine the average rider in Squamish is an order of magnitude more competent than down here Razz
  • 36 1
 @graham2017: Dudes out here will put on their G-Form elbow/knee pads, buckle on the Bell detachable, swing a leg over their Spot Rollik, pedal up Green Mountain in an hour, make it to the bottom 12 minutes later (cracking top 5,000 all time on Strava), and then talk about how sick they are and how they might try their hand at racing (but prob not worth it because they'd lose their 90k/year day job if they got injured).

@kwl1 Comparatively though, dudes in Squamish roll a 40 degree slab into an 80 foot gap jump over a moat full of Grizzly's and crocodiles while wearing jorts and a half shell and talk about how there's no point in racing because they aren't even fast anymore.
  • 13 0
 @fullendurbro: ngl I broke top 300 rooney and box descents in summer 2020, raced BME Winter Park a couple months later... a very humbling experience to say the least lmao. Turns out there's a decent, boeing 747-sized gap between posting sick strava times in the foothills and racing at bike parks haha
  • 15 3
 3 people down voted a well written blurb on how you have fond memories of your hometown...
  • 3 2
 Any successful MTB community is rooted in a handful of people who choose to make it happen. It's great that Florida has some trails to ride, but it's still Florida
  • 3 1
 Sounds like you guys are riding the wrong trails on the Front Range. I ride 5x/week and 99% of my interactions are super friendly and positive. But I don’t ride Green Mountain or Apex, so there’s that.
  • 5 0
 @stevemokan: I appreciate the insight. I've lived in grew up on the front range, still live in CO. I think the etiquette comes down to the sheer number of riders. Bigger population=more shitty people (unless it's Boulder, then everyone is a triathlete). I think there are other pockets where the community is more tight knit, like on the Western Slope.
  • 4 0
 @stevemokan: I don't want to overgeneralize or shit on Denver because I do love living and riding here. It's not one particular trail or day of the week but an accumulation of interactions I've had over the years.

I'm sure a large part of it is that TMBA membership, trail building, and general involvement in the community among Tallahassee riders is a WAY higher % than what is out here, but maybe that's a weak statistic given the sheer number of riders out here. Shout out to COMBA btw...
  • 2 0
 I was going to write something snarky, but you effectively side-stepped that. Well played and well argued, have an upvote and keep it weird down there!
  • 3 0
 I've been trekking to Tallahassee the past couple years to ride Tom Brown...it's a nice switch from stuff closer to me(Santos, Graham Swamp), reminds me of N. Carolina a bit..some really fun trails!
And I spent a long time in Gainesville...similar roots story...loads of trails cut all around and in town created by a core group of riders going back 30 years. If a trail gets destroyed by development, they grab a satellite image of the area and cut new stuff! There are some local races/gatherings that have been going on for a while..that will cover 70 miles(80% off road), and it's as fun as it is grueling. The city has gotten more involved, protecting land to keep the trails that have been made, and respecting the bike culture.
It is great to have that background and be familiar with the "hardcore" level of riding and culture...those guys and town shaped my ride lifestyle(which will always exist), which is obviously a very special thing. And though I've been lucky to have ridden many places around the world, I will still ride a 70 mile gruelfest in the middle of FL.--and mostly because the people(and some of the trails). (P.S>--I hate the truck culture! I'm sure it's worse since you've been here!)
  • 1 0
 @fullendurbro: thats why i only race the 40+ now. Seems everyone under that age category seems they still have a chance to “make it”
  • 3 0
 @graham2017

Me too. Went to college there long long ago and appreciate that mountain biking was a completely raw, unmapped experience. Did a lot of fun night rides through the pine forest. But yeah the west/southwest....we have arguably the best weather and terrain for mountain biking. Back then mountain biking was riding your bike in the woods, not looking at trail forks or youtube to figure out your next adventure.
  • 3 5
 @bj007: maybe it is the blatant racism towards a group a people that gets the down votes. Or are you one that wants to pretend that racism only happens to certain groups of people? I'm sure PB will let this go because it isn't directed at one of the protected groups. But swap a couple words and moderators would be deleting the post and banning a user.
  • 3 1
 @kleinschuster: What is "racist" in any of the comment? There's only one human race by the way..and any other biggotry is ethnicism induced(when you actually look at it).
If picking on a group of people doing the same activity..that's something very different because they can be a mix of looks, ethnicities, religious beliefs. Maybe you're being a bit paranoid..or I guess it's "woke"
  • 3 2
 @GlassGuy: I'm not "woke" in any sort and agree that there is a single existing human species even though people like to cling to using the created concept of race that isn't measured by science to identify with or use for or against causes. If you want to play semantics on racism vs. ethnicism I'll bow out because that discussion is a waste of time. I'm simply pointing out if you replace white in the original comment with another adjective then there would be an uproar and actions taken. Double standards are tolerated when people feel like it is the compassionate thing to do.
  • 8 2
 @kleinschuster: If you grew up in North Florida, you'd know exactly who I'm talking about. The Good Ol' Boys! The same old white f*cks that shaped literally one of the most segregated cities in the US (www-2.rotman.utoronto.ca/mpi/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Segregated-City.pdf). Patient Zeros for the sociopolitical hellworld we are witnessing Florida morph into.

We can do online discourse about this all you want, but it seems really stupid coming from internet stranger who gets mad whenever they read something attributing whiteness to current social issues; in the case of Tallahassee - NIMBYism, general hatred towards alternate modes of transportation, segregation, agents of chaos at city commission meetings, lol.

Be honest, are you more upset I put a spicy label on the demographics of the responsible parties or the fact that remnants of the Jim Crow South are visible plain as day in my hometown? My guess is your inner reactionary says the former because you don't know anything about the area.

Well, who knows. Maybe you know of a secret population of nonwhite, nonboomer Good Ol' Boys intent on keeping the North Tallahassee suburbs as white as possible via secret Facebook groups.
  • 1 0
 @fullendurbro: In the sea-to-sky you can ride with someone who has seriously thought about trying the Toonie Drop, but just considers themselves a slow mountain biking dad...
  • 1 0
 @GlassGuy: I lived in Gainesville for a few years and loved the Tour de Gainesville and the Summer Steamer. So much fun! I got a chance to ride the Steamer this year as I was passing through at the right time.
  • 3 6
 @graham2017: I have no dislike for another human based on the color of their skin, their sexual preference, or where they were born. It's quite interesting though that it is acceptable to bash one group and highlight that group's skin color, race, ethnicity, or hometown and as long as it is a certain one some think it is acceptable but will riot if it is a different one. I'll be over here with the old black, yellow, red, blue, green, gay, trans and so on f*cks riding my bike on MOUNTAINS and not stepping foot in FL. Enjoy the gravel biking.
  • 5 2
 Ah yes, we've arrived at the real reason you chimed in in the first place.

*clears throat*

Let it be known henceforth, @kleinschuster does NOT see color, has NO dislike of anyone on the basis of sexual preference, and again, is definitely NOT racist! Also, he rides bikes with people with blue skin - big ups to the argyria community!

So glad you used this nuanced, local discussion to let everybody know you're 100% NOT racist.
  • 2 1
 @kleinschuster: I'll give you a little insight into the "people" you feel you need to protect..the "truck culture". The biggest point is they're usually 19-20 years old..below average height..yes..white. About 130 pounds..backwards hat..have their IG tag on the windows..jacked up truck, often dropped in the back making the truck useless and dangerous. Then..they change the exhaust so you can hear them 3 miles away..disturbing everyone's lives as they try and "show off" to the world because their parents didn't give them enough attention. They're horrible to the rest of humanity that just wants to exist within their little, quiet, respectful world.
It's ok to dislike certain kinds of people, and it doesn't have to be a big thing..I'm sure a lot of people don't like you, and I doubt it's because you're white. Great, you say you won't step foot in FL. and you'll be on mountains..good for you! Your choice! I go to actual mountains also, and have traveled around the world riding bikes and surfing..but yeah..I live in FL.--my family is here, my work partner is here..I live at the beach and have a pretty cool life...but....so many people from up north have moved down here that the area does kind of suck now....traffic is insane..lots of people(mostly white--yeah, I said it), are complete and utter turds and I wish they'd go back home, but they moved here. Stop being a baby and realize some people suck, and it doesn't have anything to do with appearance. Character is all that matters, and until people stop looking at color/ethnicity then nothing will change..and by you bringing up "race" in a discussion about hometown memories that said nothing about ethnicity..you are keeping the problem going
  • 1 0
 @stubs179: I haven't done the Steamer...but was always aware of it since Goodbike got that going. One of the best parts of doing those rides in seeing people I may see only once a year that I knew ages ago. It's always a ton of love and smiles! I had to skip this most recent Tour...was kind of "training"(very sore ass if you haven't been putting in miles), and then I had multiple mechanicals on my main bike and I took it as sign that I should skip it(I was concerned with a very sore ass! ha ha!) I'm good friends with Matt and Pat..Pete, who started the Tour. I see Matt at the beach with the family sometimes too...super great people..great riders. Quality all around!
  • 1 0
 @GlassGuy: I sold my bike when I moved out there because I had the same preconceptions as most of the bone heads on here. Met Mike from Goodbike riding Harley’s and he talked me into going for a ride at Santos. I was so bummed I had missed out on mountain biking for 2yrs after that ride. Me and some friends would do a MTB->beach day. Leave G-ville and stop at Chuck Lennon for 3-4 laps then head out to Dayton and chill on the beach. Because you can drive out on beach your bikes are safe.
  • 1 0
 @GlassGuy: As long as Florida has this "open for business" mentally, the quality of life in Florida is going to continue to plummet. Inequality is only going to intensify as natives are financially pushed out while relocating/retiring are finding the cost of living less than the state they fled. There has been no attempt to slow the population growth of the state. 25% population growth in just 20 years...insane. The housing crisis in Florida is the next California. For all that Florida gets ridiculed and criticized, the truth is everyone wants their 'endless summer' of living here.
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 @stubs179: Been riding Santos for over 20 years(before there was a parking lot..even discussed how cool it would be to open a bike shop at the entrance..now there are two!). I still go often since it's 1.5hrs from me, and I like the variety of the place....and can find good BBQ or burgers on the way home! I lived in Hawaii where I rode some steep stuff and travel north enough to want to keep the legs strong and skills up. Riding in FL. isn't "world quality", but it'll get you fit and make you learn how to really tweak moves on a trail and utilize your leg speed! At least in Gville you can pedal from home and be in the woods in a matter of minutes and find loads of trails
  • 1 0
 @Jamminator: Yeah, it's been a blessing and a curse...we had a very easy go with the "pandemic" thanks to the governor, but now we're paying the price for our freedoms. The past two years have changed the face of the area so much my life has altered in multiple ways..including way more anxiety when considering the crowds there will be almost anywhere I go. I simply don't drive as many places and leave town like I used to...places to live are nearly impossible to find since people buy up properties for the sole purpose of creating Air BnB's...and greed. It's been rough watching massive areas of trees and nature flattened for the use of more shitty homes and apartments. And it isn't going to stop anytime soon. I knew these lockdowns, mandates, etc. were going to lead to a lot of ripples and waves creating a lot more damage
  • 34 0
 Wtf is @mikelevy gonna say when he sees that Tom & Christina have beaten him to his lifetime dream of going to Florida to ride? You know Levy's shivering under a blanket on his couch right now, using his fake PB account to troll us right??? He needs some fresh, humidity-choked FL air to purge his frozen purple veins...
  • 31 0
 I am finally convinced @Mtn-Goat-13 is Levy's burner account
  • 5 0
 @masonguy: Levy would love Florida.
  • 41 0
 @browntown40 @Mtn-Goat-13 I am cold and want to go there so bad.
  • 4 0
 @masonguy: Weirdly my best bud is literally a Levy-doppleganger so I feel a need to pester Levy as if he was my bud...its sad
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: There's also just the desert southwest - far better riding, no Florida-Man hanging out by the 10's in every town, zero humidity and no druglords
  • 1 0
 @Mtn-Goat-13: There's something magical about how badly we treat our riding buddies.
  • 1 0
 @Mtn-Goat-13: No druglords in the desert southwest? There might not be Florida-Man either but plenty of desert tweakers to be found.
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 @mikelevy: There's definitely something nice about being able to wear shorts, t-shirt at any hour and never having cold feet.
  • 1 0
 @office: I'm sure there are, but one parody at a time please! And yeah: tweakers is pretty fun and seeminly more concentrated there too. Florida Man is a cliche for sure...never thought FL would become the new West Virginia in that regard, but so far ya don't hear a lot of "Arizona..." or "New Mexico Man..." crazy stories flooding outta those states. Hell, I don't even like the desert but I also ain't an FL fan (for the heat, more retirees and strokes-on-the-highway than any other state, and Florida Man)...but kudo's to the FL mtb ridres for building all those killer trails in what is otherwise ho-hum terrain, that takes creativity and from what I hear, its a blast. Def wanna hit it but not when its hot AF
  • 2 0
 @Mtn-Goat-13: Oh there are drug lords in the desert. You don't hear about Arizona Man or New Mexico Man or Any-Other-State Man because Florida has unique freedom of information/speech/public shaming laws that give reporters access to more pre-trial police information
  • 1 0
 @pmhobson: Heard on the drug lords: ubiquitous. Not sure about the laws, poimt taken but alot of the Fl Man / Woman stuff comes out just about instantaneously as antics are antic’d (as in many if not all states) but yeah, wouldnt doubt those laws… I could spout on but won't
  • 1 0
 @Mtn-Goat-13: If you think tweakers are "fun" you've obviously never met real tweakers
  • 1 1
 @office: Chill homey. I just meant fun as a chat item here, not actual fun.I surrounded by tweakers where I live and have cell-op remote cams, closed-cap & actual weapons to help me find & remove them from my land quickly so they all know now that some Breaking Bad shit aint happening on my land & time. Dont take words too seriously before ya oneejerk - they have many meanings
  • 1 1
 @office: And pardon the effin' typos...text is just too small on this phone, blah
  • 26 5
 I was just in Florida, the highest "mountain" is actually a pile of buried garbage. (LITERALLY)
  • 23 18
 Don’t worry, “mountain biking” is just the name of the activity, you don’t actually need “mountains” in order to have some fun riding.

The more you know……
  • 54 3
 @tim-r: That's something someone says when they don't have mountains near them
  • 1 1
 Piles of trash can make decent hills. We've got a dump near me in CA that's gotten huge. The plan is to cap it off and have a system for extracting the methane being produced. The view from the top is pretty impressive.
  • 4 0
 I feel like "dirt biking" needs to be stolen from the motorcycle crowd for these instances.
  • 4 0
 @DylanH93:

"The smell from the top is pretty impressive. "

fixed it for ya
  • 2 0
 The next XC Olympics will be raced on a pile of garbage (literally)
  • 2 1
 @sxjimmy - Incorrect...unless you're trying to argue mountains are now measured from the valley floor and not by elevation.

The highest point (elevation wise) is natural rolling hills in the North part of the state...and you cannot even reach the real summit because it sits on private land. When you stand at the faux 'high point' marker you realize the area to the North is higher.
  • 4 0
 @HB208: I live in Alaska, my mountain are bigger than your “mountains”. Lol.
  • 1 0
 @tim-r: meh..debatable
  • 2 0
 @tim-r: Unfortunately, hill biking and bump biking were terms that didn't quite take.
  • 20 2
 As someone who recently lived in FL, here is the obligatory FL comment:

Santos and Alafia are definitely the two best mtb spots in FL
  • 6 0
 Grapefruit Trails....
  • 6 0
 Markham down south is all there as well!
  • 2 0
 @rclugnut: Yeah, Markham is great, too! That was the first place I rode a technical mtb trail, actually

All in all, FL actually has some really great riding
  • 4 0
 Balm Boyette and Virginia Key are rad. VK has awesome views of the ocean and Miami Beach.
  • 2 0
 @preridedump: Yep, throw in Mount Dora in there as well
  • 4 0
 I rode both a couple years ago. They are fun and unique compared to the riding I typically do, but neither are places I would specifically go to Florida for. I’m probably driving if I’m traveling with my bike, and between me and Florida are Stokesville Va, the entirety of western NC and even Knoxville. Not sure I’d feel compelled to drive on for another 10 hours after leaving Pisgah.
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 @BikesBoatsNJeeps: Funny you mention Stokesville but not Carvins Cove, North Mountain or anything around the Roanoke region in the national forests. Def worth a stop next time you come through. I drove from Roanoke to Grapefruit trails specifically for the jumps and the ocean. Its a super unique riding experience- Dense jungle, fruit all over the ground and sand that is packed into cement. BMBA puts in a ton of work down there and knows how to build proper lips and landings.
  • 25 0
 Florida definitely has some of the best riding in Florida.
  • 1 0
 I have been riding Santos for twenty years and make the 1.5hr drive pretty often still(I used to live closer). Alafia is a great park..unfortunately for me getting there is pure hell..everything is so crowded now I won't even consider the hassle to drive there. I've been doing the drive to Tallahassee instead..Tom Brown is lots of fun
  • 2 0
 I live 10 minutes from Alafia. It's terrible. Don't ride there
  • 2 0
 @swaldrop: I live 15 mins from Grapefruit. It's unrideable, don't bother coming here...specially on weekends with nice weather...
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 @matadorCE: I did find out the best time to go is during the summer when its really hot and wet. That's when they groom the trails at the top of every hour.
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 @mmarkey21: hahahaha
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 @swaldrop: you live in interesting country, then.
  • 20 0
 You have to ride 146 miles to decend a mile... Let me just say, Ouch...
  • 13 1
 I think the local riders had it right. They were on hardtails. While the trails looked like great fun, there was no need to ride full suspension bikes.
  • 7 0
 Attend any mtb race in the area and you'll see a field full of either Cannondale Scalpels or Specialized Epics. 110/120mm is all you need but you definitely want some squish because it can be a loooong time on the saddle.
  • 5 3
 It's never about need dude.
  • 2 0
 No need at Tom Brown, but some Florida trails like Oleta where your back is just getting beat up by roots all day long, there's definitely an advantage.
  • 1 0
 Kind of depends how you ride though too. I owned many a HT and I prefer my Scout with 125/150 on local trails since I like to find stuff to pop off of and ride more than just get from point A to B. And you can find some pretty technical stuff that having the suspension is worthwhile. I will admit, when I see a rad guy on a 160 bike I do feel they are being kind of silly(and now ebikes)
  • 10 0
 The real question is...Did this change anyones expectations of riding in Florida?
  • 1 0
 My expectations are that its the equivalent of riding in Peterborough in the UK. And its done nothing to change that expectation.
  • 5 0
 Fun fact: A ton of the trail in Tallahassee (everything they rode here) was built by Trail Dynamics, who are great trail builders based out of Pisgah Forest, NC. TD also built the trails at Fire Mountain, did the most recent iteration at Tsali, a bunch of trails in Pisgah, Ridgeline in DuPont, some of the work in the GWNF outside of Harrisonburg, and most of the early work at Pocahontas in Richmond. Haven’t made it down to Tallahassee yet but can’t wait to find out what TD did down there since they’re first rate!
  • 6 0
 Since this is PinkBike and it isn't mountain biking without mountains, we need a new category for trails like this-flatcountry.
  • 4 0
 Naw, it's gotta be down-flatcountry. Work as many buzzwords into it as possible.
  • 3 0
 @schu2470: the (horrible) genius of the term downcountry is that is DOESN’T use too many phrases or acronyms.

Flatcountry is more apt-it does describe riding on a narrow dirt trail…….that’s flat. Riding in Florida isn’t mountain biking, it’s Flatcountry.

A Flatcountry bike will work best if it has short travel and a slacker seat angle; no reason to put the hips way forward on level ground. A Flatcountry bike also doesn’t need double casing tires or inserts-no blasting down gnarly, rocky descents on the flats. Gearing can be taller-a 45 tooth low gear may already be too low for the Flatcountry connoisseur.
  • 4 0
 @schu2470: I believe it's called downduro.
  • 2 0
 @kwl1: That's only if you're racing downcountry
  • 5 0
 Ah, Tallahassee just the way I remember it, hot, flat and buggy. I left Tallahassee a few years back and moved to Vancouver, BC. I haven't been back since.
  • 10 1
 well to be honest the borders been closed........
  • 3 0
 My mother lives in Tallahassee so I've ridden these trails over the years. They are always fun and really nice from October through March when elsewhere is cold and wet. Tallahassee is an anomaly in Florida - rolling hills, hanging spanish moss, younger, liberal, artsy - check it out if you get the chance. My only complaint is that it's an hour to the beach, but maybe that's a plus.
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 I drive to Tallahassee from the beach(St. Augustine). Tallahassee is a different place in comparison to other riding in the state, and why I go there. Has enough elevation to make it a little faster...enough tech to make it fun. Waves have been shite for so long I had to start making the drive more often..now gas prices are killing the frequency, so...back to beach workouts!
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 @GlassGuy: I like St Augustine. Travelled there when I was a kid since my nan lived in Palm Coast, passed at 97 a year ago. I wondered recently if there were trails to ride nearby. I'll look it up if we go in that direction in the future.
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 @AndrewFleming: Palm Coast has Mala Compra..right near the beach. Has some flowy spots and oddly tech sections About 6 mile loop. The problem is the trail guys keep building dumb features that don't work, or are pointless, and the natural stuff is getting really washed out and they don't help to keep them from becoming dangerous. Lots of pinch climbs and little drop offs from large mounds. Worth riding but can be frustrating. Graham Swamp is a 6 mile loop of non stop features. Those guys put a lot of good effort into improving and building onto it. Lots of jumps, drops, rocks...pretty much anything you'd find on a techy mtn trail you'll find there, just not the elevation. It's definitely a workout! And it's become really popular..they hold races there...on a weekday the parking area is often filled. I haven't been going there as much..I like to avoid lots of people(kind of a loner, ha ha)
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 @GlassGuy: Graham Swamp is awesome!
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 One reason Florida's panhandle trails (such as Tom Brown shown in this video or the UWF trails) lack a lot of technical trail is the geology... Peninsular Florida is pretty much built right on a limestone base, so you get rock features (also helps most of the trails are old quarries), but the panhandle is almost exclusively a sand/clay top layer.
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 So pinkbike commentors hate actually pedaling bikes AND ebikes?!
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 Yes.
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 As someone originally from a western place that is definitely associated with Mountain Biking (where I started riding as well), it’s hilarious how a good share of PNW/western US natives and transplants alike are stunned that there could be decent riding anywhere else in the country, and also seem to hate on anything that involves pedaling, but also hate eBikes alike. If it’s not climb and plunge shore laps, it’s not MTB!

That said, I think the UK has done a great job of showing the rest of us how to utilize fairly uninteresting topography in many cases and come out with some amazing riding zones (mostly bike parks with jump lines). Turns out, you can build a lot of that stuff anywhere if you know what you’re doing.

Good on PB for giving Florida some spotlight!
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 Agreed on this. Folks out in PNW and western US need to travel and see that there's awesome riding all over.
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 grew up in Tallahassee during the mid-late '70s through about '82. i remember as a kid playing on those trails @ Tom Brown Park & getting a blue slushee f/the ice cream truck afterwards...good clean fun. unfortunately, this area isn't the same anymore - lots of crime/degradation due to growth in low-income housing & FSU slumlords. however, there are still some nice parts of town to be found.
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 That's some Ikon stuff. Feeling a bit sorry for Florida local riders.
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 ,,,there may be some Ikons in my garage We have to ride what we have
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 @icthus13: Yeah, that´s for sure.
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 hopefully they got some good beach time. otherwise, why waste the airfare unless they’re being paid to promote these trails.
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 In case it wasn't obvious this was the case:

"In partnership with Visit Tallahassee"
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 Gotta be on their to Pisgah
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 It's always fun to explore new places. I did that when I discovered Tom Brown trails really are a lot of fun!(I've ridden many places around the world), and I've continued to go back to ride.
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 @plyawn: While I appreciate the effort, I think Visit Tallahassee should save their breathe for the right clientele. No right-minded mtn biker is going to be going out of their way to travel to Florida. Terrain aside, not a fan of the weather. Pedaling around in 90*F+ with 80%+ humidity doesn't sound too fun.
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 Should’ve hit Alafia or Santos
One thing about Florida is ya better make sure you check with the weather man bf you make the drive. The afternoon thunderstorms can make things a lil more fun imo as long as it passes quick enough but the lightning that can come w/em not so much. Alafia’s usually my go to just bc of the distance and amenities plus it has a decent amount of trail maintenance, but from my experience most people say Alafia and Santos are definitely two of the best.
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 Weathermen don't tell much besides "50% chance", so it's basically just deal with whatever happens.
I've ridden Alafia..loads of fun but massive hassle for me to drive there..and been riding Santos on and off for twenty years and still go pretty often.
I've been making the trek to Tom Brown and it's got a different feel...a bit of elevation for more speed...enough techy stuff and a little prettier..reminds me a bit of N. Carolina spots. I put Tom Brown as one of the tops when taking the whole thing in
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 I was born and raised in Tallahassee. Growing up, I didn't bat an eye at the fact that I could jump on trails less than a mile from my front door - I thought every city was built the same. Like a lot of youth growing up in southern towns, I moved to other places seeking "more." Turns out most of the country's trails are a good 15-20 minute drive from population centers, if not more. Hell, even riding trail in-and-around Asheville & Brevard, touted as some of the best riding on the east coast, requires a car - not to mention it's (frozen over months out of the year). Back in Tally, 99% of my riding is from my front door - the bike simply doesn't go on the car. Sure, it's a different breed of trail from places with more sustained climbing and decending, but the sheer volume of trail here more than makes up for anything that it may lack.

Mountain biking is still underground in Tallahassee, despite the hundreds of miles of trails accessible directly from it's urban core. Several times a year I encounter folks on the trail that are dumbfounded by the beauty and access - "I've lived here for 20 years and never knew about the mountain biking". I always tell them the same: "tell everyone that riding in Tallahassee sucks, there's enough folks on the trail already."
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 Idk what yinz are on about. These trails look legit, I haven't seen berms or jumps like that in Pittsburgh, where there are *hundreds* of miles of singletrack. Just recently they made some decent berms at one single park, and it's about 30 minutes north of the city.
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 how many banana spider webs did y'all ride thru? lol
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 Wait... aren't they in tweed valley?
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 More of this type of content please! everytime I’ve gone riding overseas the trails have been a bit disappointing despite what I thought was a lot of research. Although we might just be spoiled in NZ
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 Reminds me very much of mountain biking in my home country: The Netherlands. No mountains but still fun in its own way.
Super cool you went and did the video BTW, after all the comments about it.
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 This has to be a joke! I'd rather sleep with a cat, than drive all the way down there and ride on a turd.
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 I live in Alabama and still wouldn’t go to Tallahassee to bike… You can only do so much without natural elevation
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 Maclay Gardens probably has the best collection of camellias in the world… March-ish is typically the best time to go—to see them in full bloom
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 Gotta address the elephant in the room; why are we not listening to Flo-Rida in this video? Seems relevant
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 I am impressed they were in Florida and Scotland on the same day.
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 Snark bait! Ooh-ah-ah! I really am glad that people in Florida can enjoy bikes too, though
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 And im really glad people in canada have maple syrup reserves
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 Lets local xc riders pass then gets right on their ass and starts loudly yapping. This guy gets it
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 Y'all should come to DC! We also have some surprisingly good trails in the area.
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 This happened so much faster than I expected.
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 If you didn't visit Crumbox Gastgarden...were you even in Tallahassee????
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 Lotta topographists here. I’m offended.
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 So... Flatcounry?
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 Can't imagine riding other than a singlespeed on that pancacke.
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 There is even singletrack outside of chicago
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 I'm in the wrong job
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 gator
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 I'll be the one to ask: Y'all think Tommy B and Chappetta are doin the deal outside of work? I get the sense it's an all-night-thing.

Temple of the Dog "All Night Thing"
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 Please do the enduro field test here! So much sicker than stupid way too steep and hard squamish.
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 I think you meant the hardtail review, since there is no need for a full sus. Maybe a downcountry test, I cannot see bringing 150mm rear travel to Florida, but I'm sure the plus tire vibe is alive somewhere in Florida.
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 @Whataboutism: The norco range is the best bike ever made for florida trails.
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 Uhhhhh……if you’re looking at enduro bikes and whining about hard descents, maybe you shouldn’t be looking at enduro bikes??

Perhaps a Flatcountry bike test????
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 @plustiresaintdead: That GJ meth must be hitting you hard.
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 Some of these Pinkers really seem to be struggling with Sarcasm.
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 @wyorider: I need a 61 degree head angle just to ride the bike path to work so your the biggest wrongest dummy ever
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 @plustiresaintdead: i think a downhill bike would be best suited for these trails
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 @plustiresaintdead: Oiled up and coiled up
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 @ZanderShredsMtb: No lie, there’s a guy who rides a DH bike around my local here in Florida
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