First Look: 2022 Orange Alpine Evo is Slacker & Longer with Shorter Travel

Jul 30, 2021
by Seb Stott  

Orange has always been about evolution rather than revolution. They've stuck with their true single-pivot suspension design and monocoque alloy frame construction for decades, yet they've been tweaking the recipe that whole time. The Alpine is Orange's 27.5" trail/all-mountain/enduro bike, and for 2022 they're launching the Alpine EVO.

Compared to the existing Alpine 6, which continues to be offered alongside the EVO, it gets a slacker head angle, longer reach and a longer chainstay to boost stability. But at the same time, the EVO has 10mm less travel at either end than the Alpine 6, with 155mm at the rear and 160mm at the front. The combination of shorter travel and longer geometry should make it well-suited to typical UK riding, with steep, but not especially rough, terrain.


Orange Alpine EVO Details
• Wheel size: 27.5"
• Travel: 160mm (f)/155mm (r)
• New longer, slacker geometry
• New stronger and stiffer asymmetric swingarm
• New offset pivot for chainring clearance
• Lower main pivot for smoother pedaling
• New UDH gear hanger
• New top tube accessory mounts plus bottle mount under the downtube
• 5-year frame warranty with limited lifetime crash replacement
• Launch edition RRP: £5,900
www.orangebikes.com







The suspension kinematics have been tweaked too. The EVO is slightly more progressive to improve bottom-out resistance, but it's still quite close to linear (the leverage ratio offers 4.7% progression from start to finish). Perhaps the biggest difference is that the main pivot has been brought a bit lower to reduce the anti-squat levels and pedal-kickback. This should make the new bike smoother to pedal over rough terrain.

The lower pivot is made possible by an asymmetrical pivot, which offsets the bearings away from the drive side. That frees up space between the pivot and the chainring so Orange could move the pivot down into the same real-estate as the chainring while still being able to run a chain guide.


The pivot now sits roughly aligned with the upper chain line, which provides more modest anti-squat values compared to the Alpine 6, which has very high levels of anti-squat. This means the new bike won't rise up as much in its travel when pedaling and should be smoother over bumps under power too, but may feel less snappy when sprinting out the saddle. There's less chain growth too, so the suspension won't be as affected by the derailleur/clutch and you might feel less pedal-kickback if you huck to flat at low speed. Anti-squat values are still fairly high (115% at sag in the 50-tooth and higher in the smaller sprockets), so it shouldn't pedal like a sofa with this lower pivot position.

SRAM's Universal Derailleur Hanger should make sourcing spares easier
Why not make an authoritative comment about weld quality below?

Orange has also re-worked and further refined the swingarm. The new version is asymmetrical; the non-drive side strut is lower down than the drive side as it doesn't need to clear the chain, and this creates a higher stiffness to weight ratio. Orange says the new design offers a 20% increase in longitudinal stiffness and a 15% increase in overall strength compared to the existing Alpine 6, without increasing weight.





Geometry

The EVO has considerably more reach per size than its predecessor, with numbers that are pretty on the money for a modern trail bike. The head angle is super slack at 63-degrees and the effective seat angle is steeper, if not the steepest, at 76-degrees. The chainstay has grown a few millimetres, and now sits at a middle-of-the-road 445mm.


Orange Alpine EVO LE - Launch Edition

For now, the EVO is available with one build, which costs £5,900. The specs include:

• Fork: RockShox Lyrik Ultimate 160mm
• Rear Shock: RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate 230x65
• Drivetrain: Shimano XT 1x12spd drivetrain with Hope Crankset
• Brakes: Shimano XT 203mm/180mm braking
• Dropper: SDG 150mm dropper post
• Finishing kit: Renthal/Hope/SDG
• Tires: Maxxis Minion DHR2/DHF, EXO
• Wheels: E13 rims /Hope Pro 4 hubs



Joe Barnes for Orange Bikes featuring the 2021 Alpine Evo Enduro bike. Photo by Stephen Hughes
Joe Barnes in suitably Alpine terrain.



210 Comments

  • 246 10
 Filing cabinet Like a skeleton knocking one out in a biscuit tin 1990s called and want their frame design back Something about welds Something about brake jack Something about the weight Something about price Farmers gates Plough for a swing arm. Think that's them covered.
  • 43 12
 You forgot the unsubstantiated claim that they're heavy AF (when they're actually really light).
  • 51 0
 @chakaping: think you'll find I've covered that with something about weight.
  • 10 7
 When will orange modernize and
  • 21 0
 @fatduke: totally missed that, please accept my apologies. You know your onions
  • 5 1
 But to be fair, absolutely nailed the geometry for a dh focused bike. Its not going to be fun and poppy. Only one iteration away from a geometron now.
  • 54 1
 You forgot bottom bracket higher than Josh Bryceland!
  • 6 0
 @Richt2000: Aha, but they are actually really fun and poppy - that's the overriding characteristic IME. To a fault in some circumstances as they can be a handful in really rough terrain.
  • 16 0
 @chakaping: thankshallot.
  • 2 0
 That report doesn't mention where's the imput to plug a guitar. Wireless cabinet?
  • 3 0
 @fatduke: getting it right is allium interested in.
  • 1 1
 @Richt2000: Nailed it unless you’re under 175cm. There’s no way my wife could ride one.
  • 1 2
 vote to retire these comments
  • 1 0
 You can get some quite advanced farmers gates now, some even have multi link pivots.
  • 3 0
 @chakaping:

Totally.

My Orange Four was considerably lighter than my Santa Cruz Bronson CC.

The weight of all those bearings soon adds up
  • 87 6
 Wow! It looks so modern and new! Right guys? Guys???
  • 31 19
 Love it or hate it, it's an MTB design classic up there with the Santa Cruz v10
  • 29 8
 I jest, but you're completely right. Orange bikes are kind of like the Porsche 911 of cycling industry. A rear engined car shouldn't work as well as it does, but through years of refinement they're some of the best available. Same idea with Orange bikes, in my opinion. Still fun to rip on though.
  • 2 1
 I really wish it was more attractive because the simple single pivot is a joy to own from a maintenance perspective. I still miss my old Patriot, even if you could hear it from the next County.
  • 23 4
 @tremeer023: I honestly think they are among the best-looking bikes on the market, I love the fluted & folded tubing, the straight downtube and the tapered top tubes.
Perhaps I'm swayed by knowing how much fun they are to ride as well, but I've unexpectedly found myself grumbling about other brands being "disposable plastic tat" and these being proper engineering.
What have I become?
  • 2 0
 @chakaping: they look a lot better in the flesh to be fair. There are better silhouettes for sure though (jeez, what have I become ha-ha?!)
  • 3 0
 @iian: that is actually the most perfect analogy. they really are. upvote for you sir
  • 4 3
 The front triangle looks surprisingly nice. Too bad the rear is .....an Orange. Frown
  • 1 3
 @mattg95: wrong
  • 2 1
 @mattg95: Does ugly count as "classic"? LOL
  • 5 2
 @iian: Except a 911 looks amazing, and an Orange....
  • 47 0
 That colour is gorgeous
  • 75 1
 An orange bike that’s a green bike on pink bike
  • 44 1
 "Why not make an authoritative comment about weld quality below?"

Big Grin
  • 8 2
 Thank God they called it out early - looks like a sweet bike!
  • 5 4
 What weld quality?
  • 27 1
 Bottle mount under the downtube for when you really want your water to have hint of loam and dog shit.
  • 6 11
flag aly-14 (Jul 30, 2021 at 3:35) (Below Threshold)
 Better than not having one. Bottles with mud caps for the nozzle are also available so it's really not an issue at all
  • 11 1
 @aly-14: As someone who owns a Mega with the underside bottle cage, it is an issue.

I'm looking at you Fido.
  • 1 2
 @dingus: I have it on my Orange Stage 5 and it doesn't bother me one bit
  • 9 3
 @aly-14: I would genuinely rather not have any water bottle bosses than have them under the down tube.
  • 3 0
 @lewiscraik: each to their own. I thought I'd have a problem with it before I got the bike but I've not minded at all
  • 3 0
 @lewiscraik: They are really useful, just not for bottles. I use them to fix pumps or tools to the frame.
  • 2 0
 @aly-14: great so i can get the dog shit off the cap using?
  • 44 19
 What a huge update in design from 1999
  • 25 9
 What an original comment
  • 2 0
 Orange finally arrived in the 21st century
  • 5 1
 Original compared to this design Wink
  • 23 2
 The UK not having especially rough terrain... that's a bit of a stupid generalised comment
  • 22 1
 Yeah. The canal towpath I exclusively ride my 180mm Enduro bike along does have quite the pebbled section at one point.
  • 9 0
 did they not watch hardline last weekend?
  • 3 4
 To be fair unless you live in the lakes, bits of whales or the highlands it’s pretty much bang on.
  • 4 2
 Theres a massive increase in audi driving orange owners mincing round on any flat towpath they can find since lockdown…. Where have you been man
  • 4 1
 @thenotoriousmic: It's Wales, not whales.
  • 11 0
 @NatusEstInSuht: it’s definitely whales.
  • 11 0
 @thenotoriousmic: it's actually wails.
  • 2 4
 It's true the UK doesn't have much steep gnarly terrain, but neither do most countries including the USA, I doubt every geezer in NY or LA needs a 180mm travel big rig as if they are hitting 40mph through the mountains of Colorado either. We do have some steep stuff here in the Lakes, Scotland and Wales it's just not always talked about or even known. There is places in the Lakes you wouldn't even dare go down on bike at all unless you were a nutjob .
  • 2 0
 @NatusEstInSuht: I think he was referencing Jonah. OG BC freerider that guy.
  • 11 0
 @NatusEstInSuht: "Wales aint just the fish with the biggest dick in the sea, it is also a country" ~ Ali G.
  • 6 0
 @Danzzz88: you obviously don’t know what the riding is like near LA to make this comment.
  • 3 0
 @nufenstein: Do you like to go hucking in Compton?
  • 1 0
 @thenotoriousmic: This comment has no plaice on Pinkbike.
  • 3 0
 @nufenstein: when i lived in LA and san luis obispo it was awesome
  • 1 0
 @Danzzz88: Hold my Beer..!
  • 3 0
 @Danzzz88: both LA and New York have very steep and rough riding trails. I think you are thinking Kansas. Or Florida. Etc.
  • 3 0
 @Danzzz88: uhhh LA has plenty of steep and rocky trails within an hour in all directions
  • 1 0
 The bike is named ALPINE.. I am Swiss and have two surfboards desipte we have very little waves here
  • 2 2
 @Dogl0rd: Well I live in Manchester, it's flat as a pancake, just like NY... But if we are talking about travelling an hour or so to get to places to ride and not just cycling to the trail from home then the UK has plenty places that are steep too, so the comments about tge UK having no steep trails or it's all flat are also stupid. It's a small country, from most places in the UK it won't be more than 2 hrs to find something steep and gnarly, the Lakes is plenty rough and steep enough in places, of which can be accessed in around an hour or so from Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle, Yorkshire bla bla bla. So if we are talking trekking 50-100miles by car to your 'local' trails then the UK has plenty of places just like any other country. The trouble is all the people acting like they live walking distance from the nearest mountains, most people don't, most people live in the city and need to drive to these kinds of places. So by that account this nonsense that the UK only requires 140mm bikes bla bla is bollocks, the Lakes has places that are dangerous to walk nevermind ride just like any other country.
  • 1 0
 @Danzzz88: we’ve got some of the gnarliest trails in the world. It’s no coincidence the UK has more World Cup winners that the rest of the world combined. You don’t dominate mtb for decades without decent terrain at home to learn on.
  • 16 2
 Things I'd like to see from Orange - return to external cable routing -sideways shock to allow room for a water bottle under the top tube -replaceable rear dropout to allow variable rear centre lengths and mullet BB drop adjustment
  • 14 1
 They can keep the dropper cable internal but I agree with external for everything else.
  • 2 0
 I'm sure if they'd really wanted to, they could have snuck a water bottle in there. Could have rotated the shock mount further round and buried the shock in the down tube like the DH bikes. Side entry cage, sorted. Putting in bosses or zip tie minutes for at least the rear brake hose would be nice, if only for the race day "aaaargh" moments
  • 2 1
 All excellent suggestions.
I've pleaded with them to go back to external routing and they weren't budging.
Frown
  • 12 2
 Agreed all bikes should be external cables with exception of dropper post
  • 2 0
 @jimmythehat: everything including brakes will be wireless soon anyway, so it'll make no difference ;-)
  • 5 1
 And for the love of god use post mounts for the brakes
  • 1 0
 @mountainsofsussex: That fine if it’s similar cost to cables
  • 2 0
 That would break the internet
  • 1 0
 The lack of in-frame water bottle mount is literally the only thing stopping me buying an Orange again, as much as they are ridiculously overpriced I loved how my old one rode, but am accessible water bottle mount is a necessity. Also I would rather have a mullet setup but the Switch has mismatched rear travel, especially with the smaller rear wheel, hopefully they sort the Switch and change it to 160mm rear to match the front
  • 13 2
 1) What is the actual seat angle?

2) What does the frame weigh?

These are key bike metrics for riders, that manufacturers try to hide. Come on PB, it’s your job to find out and publish this kind of stuff..
  • 22 6
 1) There's very little seat tube offset, so very close to 76-degrees.

2) I can't force brands to release information they don't want to divulge. Even if they did want tell me, how could we be sure they were being honest and not weighing a size small, no hardware, lightest sample they could find, etc.? Short of breaking into Orange, stealing a bike, stripping the frame and weighing it, there's no practical way to know for sure.

Also, since when were actual seat angle (as opposed to effective) and frame weight key metrics for MTB?
  • 8 2
 @seb-stott: I agree on the actual seat angle as a useless metric, but overall bike weight is absolutely useful because it allows for comparisons with other similar bikes/models and helps make purchasing decisions.
  • 16 0
 @seb-stott: sounds like you know what you need to do then
  • 5 0
 @seb-stott: As someone pretty squarely in the middle of the bell curve for my body morphology, actual STA isn’t of much concern to me compared to effective.

But for taller riders, there are plenty of bikes out there where effective STA is measured at stack height or at a 720mm saddle height or whatever, such that the actual STA will still end up cantilevering these long-limbed freaks (meant lovingly, and possibly with just a tinge of jealousy) way out over the rear hub.

I’m not saying anything revolutionary or obscure here, so I’m surprised to see the interest in this metric so casually dismissed by PB tech staff. Seems like a weird take.
  • 3 0
 @seb-stott: Actual seat angle is important for anyone who's tall enough to ride with the saddle above stack height. Two bikes could have the same measured effective STA but the one with the steeper actual seat angle is going to have a more forward seating position at the actual climbing seat height.
  • 2 0
 @Linc I have the new Five Evo, size large. Similar to this bike, but a little shorter. The frame weighed in at 3.07 Kg with shock, seat clamp, and rear axle. Fizzy Orange color.
  • 4 1
 @seb-stott: This is such a bad take.

1) As other people have said, it’s super important for anyone who wants to run their seat higher than whatever point the manufacturer has chosen to measure effective seat angle.

2) Bike weight is a key factor for riders. It’s nuts that a manufacturer won’t share it, for starters. But if that’s the case, call it out and say they refused to tell you. That’s relevant info right there.

3) You seriously think Orange would lie to you about the weight of the frame? Why would PB trust any of the geometry statics then - did you independently verify them all? Anyway, I take it that from now on, PB won’t publish any bike stat that it hasn’t been independently verified themselves.
  • 1 0
 It'll be around 13kg. They all are. +/- .5 kg.
  • 8 0
 Speaking as an enthusiastic Orange fanboy, I have a few observations to make:
- Reach numbers are perhaps beyond "on the money", 475mm on a medium is pretty progressive IMO
- Swingarm redesign looks clever and makes sense in the context of how the previous bikes ride
- Not sure about those graphics, is that going to be on all the frames now?
- Welds look lovely
  • 7 0
 Something something welds, something something skeleton beating off in a biscuits tin. Looks to me like a fun rig. Would smash
  • 5 0
 If tha livs in Yorksur and it piddles down in `Ebden then thur grand for`t mud an`t Blue Pig , one pair of bearins as tight folk save moni . But truth be told they are light and fun but way over priced these days since Lester left .
  • 6 1
 There's something about Orange Bikes that intrigues me. It's ugly no doubt, but it's like seeing that ugly beat up rusty old pickup truck with just the right lift and MT tires where you think "man what a ugly old truck but it does look kinda badass"
  • 1 0
 Ill vote for that
  • 1 0
 "so ugly it must be modern art"
  • 4 0
 Love the look of this bike but Orange really needs to be brave and drop the Orange decal on the sides of the downtube. It's an iconic design, people know it's an Orange, it doesn't need to be spelt out. The head tube badge confirms it for anyone interested. Pathetically minor comment, I know, but look again, and tell it wouldn't look better without?!
  • 1 0
 You can take them off…
  • 2 0
 Agreed. A decent graphics designer has been required for about 15 years now. The current decals are particularly bad even for orange.
  • 4 1
 I’ve always loved Orange bikes, especially for their dedication to simplicity in design

However, every time they evolve a bike, the review always reads the same.. it’s a bunch of numbers and %s that get swapped around, confirming this is better, that is better etc but with a similar end result (a bike that rides great, IF your a great rider, and rides even better, off the brakes)

You could probably say the same with Santa Cruz (apart from the braking bit) !

There’s just way way to much going on for a single pivot to be fully effective.. without modern shock technology they would be up the stuffer

(But if your a decent, fit, fast rider they great)
  • 10 5
 You nailed it, these bikes need to be ridden off the brakes and then they fly.

When you say this people moan because they can’t do that or are too lazy with their riding, my Five transformed my riding ability as it forced me to ride off the brakes.

Not everyone gets this or can do it so granted Oranges aren’t for most people.

Not that they aren’t good riders rather just lazy as you need to be constantly thinking about your inputs, again this isn’t want some people want from a bike so fair enough.

Until you have ridden one it is totally stupid to criticise the design or ride characteristics.

Personally I love the looks and handling, only gripe is I like external cables.

If you watch MX you’ll understand that no suspension is capable of dealing with all
bumps, that’s where skilled use of the terrain comes in and learning technique to work with it.

In summary I’ll be getting one of these
  • 1 0
 @jimmythehat: great reply.

Tbh I’ve never ridden one in anger, but have ridden other single pivots bitd

Your are bang on though with all your comments. They are definitely not for me, but I’ll always be a little jealous of Orange riders in terms of maintenance, mud clearance and the one bearing !

Also, if a bike forces you to ride off the brakes, I find that fascinating. I guess it will only make you think FAR more about everything your doing .. I.e getting the perfect speed into corners etc.
  • 2 0
 @cristiantomlinson: Thanks, even on a lazy day they are still fun bikes to ride they just perform better when used with good technique. Side note I hated my 224 Evo but that’s probably more to do with the tougher dh tracks and my ability to ride them
  • 7 0
 Still hasn’t evolved to fit a tea bottle inside the frame.
  • 3 1
 Lots of people hate on Orange but I will reserve my true judgement until I ride one. How do these bikes ride with 4.7% of progression in the rear? I'm assuming air shock only? I imagine you'd want to load up on volume spacers to help with progression and still maintain some semblance of traction.
  • 2 1
 I'm on a previous generation one, but I found using all the spacers made my Stage 6 far too skittish (but it went like a scalded cat). Settled on two in the X2 and it's still very lively.
Riding it with a Storia V2 coil shock now and it's fine. A lot of fast riders (including the Dudes and the Factory Team) seem happy with coils on them.
I asked Joe Barnes about it and I think he said the predictability and consistency of the coil worked well for him. Which I'd agree with now I've tried it myself.
The longer travel Oranges do seem to need a good damper though.
  • 1 0
 I find you feel exactly where the rear end is and what it is doing. I have two tokens in my RS Super Deluxe and it only bottoms out on things that you would expect it to. Compared to my previous bike, 2018 YT Jeffsy with a CC DB Inline coil shock, there is a lot more feedback to what the bike is actually doing, I like that, but I can see why some people may want a more 'floaty' ride
  • 6 0
 To be honest, I miss the old orange looks.
  • 3 0
 I don’t mind an Orange. I’m happy they exist. The geometry looks pretty good and they look good. But they are price very high and only a 5 warranty on the frame. Even a £250 Carrera has a lifetime warranty on the frame.
  • 5 0
 Good to see brands still bringing out bikes with 27.5” wheels at both ends.
  • 3 1
 They forgot to mention the integrated anti-theft device. Instantly makes the bike next to it look more expensive and theft worthy. I don't see the appeal Outside the " made in UK" if I lived in the UK. Don't think I have ever seen one in the wild in my neck of the woods.
  • 2 0
 if i wanted to spend the thick end of 6k on a kinda trail kinda enduro 27.5 wheeler id be taking the trek remedy 9.8 every day. like this it has second teir groupset but comes with a full carbon frame, carbon wheels and bars and id have change compared to the orange, i get that its made in uk but seriously.....
  • 2 0
 Aye your missing the novelty value of a yorkshireman with a barely understandable twang bashing ahit straight with a hammer , for some this is very important
  • 2 0
 I rode an orange for a week when in was in Europe. Absolutely loved it. The harder you ride it especially in the corners the better it rides. Didn't just make everything feel dull, you had to put in the effort to be rewarded. Came home wanted to buy one until I saw the prices in Aus.
  • 5 0
 Looks so much more modern than the last one...
  • 3 0
 Almost everyone hates the look of Orange bikes... I am not almost everyone. Always loved the look of those things, and damn can Joe Barnes carve a turn.
  • 3 0
 I really love the look of orange bikes. I imagine its really easy to diagnose a creak, and a frame overhaul would take 5 minutes. The also look completely bulletproof.
  • 4 0
 Starting to suspiciously look like the Grim Donut.
  • 2 0
 I thought the same...
  • 2 0
 I went straight to the comments looking for this and wasn't disappointed. Thank you. Smile
  • 8 4
 JFC 6K £££ for this? Are they off their rockers?
  • 19 2
 You don't get a rocker on a single pivot pal.
  • 2 8
flag m1dg3t (Jul 30, 2021 at 5:16) (Below Threshold)
 @chakaping: Thank you, Cpt. Obvious!
  • 7 3
 Not really a first look is it. Been seen for decades lol
  • 2 6
flag m1dg3t (Jul 30, 2021 at 5:18) (Below Threshold)
 Polishing a turd is an art form. Don't ya know?
  • 1 1
 @m1dg3t: Porsche 911 lol
  • 6 2
 Looks like a Walmart bike.
  • 3 0
 20 years ago I really wanted a Santa Cruz superlight. It is nice to know I can still get one.
  • 1 0
 The Allt a' Mhuillinn footpath is "Alpine terrain" aye?

Super expensive and looks like a bunch of girders welded together, has to be an Orange. They haven't changed since 2002.
  • 5 2
 Put a 29er on the front and I might mull-et over
  • 3 0
 Where in Scotland can I demo one? I really want to try one
  • 1 0
 Off Beat Bikes in Ft Bill might be able to let you try one, but bikes are super scarce right now, no demos around.
  • 1 0
 I dare them to ride that bike with a water bottle mounted on that downtube. Why not put that cage mount on the top tube instead?
  • 4 0
 Vasectomies are free on the NHS...
  • 1 2
 Looks like as.... Sounds like a.... Outdated.... BUT Ferg, Joe B and Joe C are all doing well on their oranges, JC even put a triple camp purple fork on the front for full retro and did well in EWS on his. . . Its just not made of carbon, comes with a new acronym for the suspension, plus its not pretty enough compared to other bikes out there. Pretty first, performance... who cares, its all about the Insta posts and I cant lean this up against a gate and take a photo of 2 gates.
  • 2 0
 Come on Outside. Where’s my Orange hand-welded e-bike? Did anybody else pay $50 to see this article?
  • 1 0
 Oh and i love my water bottle to sit in the dog shite that my front wheel kicks up because UK folks cant clean up after their fucking dog
  • 2 0
 Looks like a fun bike. Loved my SC Heckler single pivot. Very underrated suspension design IMO. Simple, light and effective.
  • 1 0
 I'd definitely like to spend some time on a newer gen Orange, the simplicity appeals but they are bloody expensive and rare around my trails.
  • 1 0
 Imagine being the engineer, having to sit down at a computer every morning and design this junkyard heap in CAD. The doorknob would start to look appealing.
  • 4 1
 I feel like Orange is the Elsworth of the UK
  • 3 1
 Oof, there's always one person who takes things too far.
  • 1 0
 Why is the bike in the video different than the photos? Barnes’ bike looks waay cooler. That water bottle mount tho…
  • 2 0
 Frame size. Marketing image being a ?large?, and Joe Barnes on a ?small?
  • 2 0
 Couldn't agree more. Looks nice in small, not in large. Need to find a way to design around that seat-tube support tube.
  • 2 1
 I love that they can change the geo but save the look. I love me some Orange.
  • 2 0
 No place for dyedbro frame stickers on this one.
  • 2 0
 I used to be an orange hater until i got on a stage 6
  • 1 0
 Finally an update on the evo, if only the water bottle wasn't in such a dumb place
  • 2 1
 Ooooooooh the new Orange Ship of Theseus. I kid I kid it’s still a nice bike after all these years
  • 2 0
 Beautiful. I'd ride that happily.
  • 1 0
 611mm stack on the XL? Come on my 5 year old xc bike has a taller stack than that...
  • 2 0
 I love how they are making a virtue of the miss aligned frames now
  • 2 0
 Oh it’s flashback Friday I see.
  • 3 0
 God that is ugly
  • 1 0
 So they redesigned asymmetric rear triangle, and were not able to fit bottle inside front triangle?
  • 2 0
 One day I'd like to see Orange release a Balfa BB7...
  • 1 0
 love orange bikes, never see many out and about, and never ridden one, but always really liked the look
  • 3 2
 oh looks like a........................orange
  • 1 2
 I had thought that Sram's UDH was a great idea - until I saw how scrawny it is in the pic above. I know it's intended to be a sacrificial part, but.....
  • 1 0
 Even if we are going to fly drones one day, Orange will remain...Orange.
  • 2 1
 Something something, skeleton, something, filing cabinet…
  • 7 6
 Yes! No stupid Mullet to be seen here.
  • 1 0
 I'm happy that you're happy.
  • 1 0
 And I thought my old Heckler with its asymmetrical swing arm was special.
  • 3 1
 £6000 though.......
  • 2 3
 Unjustifiable! Ridiculous
  • 2 0
 All thats UK overhead and wages after the 50 quids worth of aluminium it aint cheap to make shit in the uk
  • 5 4
 We MAKE BETTER IN TEH RUSSIA ¬ !
  • 2 2
 Lachlan Blair seems to do well with his frame. Guess Orange isn't bad after all
  • 5 4
 This has gotta be one of the ugliest bikes I have seen
  • 5 1
 Super ugly and way too expensive. No way on earth would I pay 6k for an aluminum single pivot bike.
  • 1 0
 Have you already forgotten about that Ibis XC bike?
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 @Wthomas: I agree. I dont understand why people buy these things when you could literally buy anything else.
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 @BenTheSwabian: Haha. True
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 NGL, it looks a bit agricultural.
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 Orange: not changing a thing since 1998. Can get a hell of a better bike for $9k canadian...
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 maintenance free sending machine nice one orange keep it up
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 Positively 100% hideous design. No thank-you, would not pursue or purchase.
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 I would love one of these with a megneg, looks so sick
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 Is the alpine the one that broke on the back end more frequently
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 Unimpressed. This design belongs back in the early 2000s.
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 Looks like an Orange... ugly.
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 Bunch of haters in the comments... This is a stunning bike. Top quality and I like the looks of it very much.
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 “typical UK riding, with steep, but not especially rough, terrain“…. The UK is only home to the roughest DH track on the international calendar in Fort William…..
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 this bike its like a remake of shelby cobra ac. the wheels are death, are heavy AF, the design are death but, looks nice, only that.
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 My Factory Five Cobra weighs 2200lbs and will outperform basically any car ever made, until aero comes into play. They’re about as aerodynamic as a barn door.
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 Singletrack have given it a rave review
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 Is there a competition for the worlds ugliest bike?
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 160/155, shorter travel? If they say it is.
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 Shorter than the alpine... this is the alpine evo
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 High Pivot Orange would look ace
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 not needed as the chain runs nearly along the swing arm.
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 @betsie: What is not needed? It’s not a high pivot design.
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flag betsie (Jul 30, 2021 at 8:19) (Below Threshold)
 @jclnv: It isnt a high pivot design, but it doesnt need to be!

Its not a high pivot as its a straight forward single pivot with the chain following the rear stay for the main forces.

The high pivot design ideally needs a linkage to remove pedal kickback.

So if Orange left their base and made something completely different if could be a high pivot!

kinda why I said no need for it to be although my comment probably was a little too general and short.


My favourite quote from Santacruz.

We’ve been using VPP™ suspension since 2001. Rather than contracting a series of kooky inventors to try to build ever more complex and wack-a-doo suspension designs or proprietary shocks so the Marketing department has something to talk about, we’ve stuck with what is an extremely versatile and high-performance mechanism.

We do this so you have the very best performing full-suspension bike imaginable rather than having the best performing marketing jargon ever.
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 @betsie: thats a complete load of bollocks from Santa. They've revised their leverage curve and design strategy more than nearly any brand I can think of.
And high pivots don't need a linkage to handle pedal kickback. That's what the idler is usually for.
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 @shredddr: it's not my quote, it's Santa Cruz marketing line. Most companies tell you those widget is the best widget. I guess it is to them.

You might also enjoy watching this guy.
Best thing about theory is it's as good as the inputs it uses. Luckily us riders don't come in 3 sizes like a frame does. Lol

youtu.be/7qkBpOfJ4wA
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 Orange’s bike designs are a bit like triggers broom
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 Sick looking sled!
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 the worst looking bike ever .. Who buys Orange ???
Retired Brits???
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 ummmm grim donut.
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 it is so ugly
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 Well yeah...., it's an Orange!
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 Pass
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 Hard pass
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