First Look: Diamondback's Affordable Downhiller - the 2015 DB8

Aug 20, 2014
by Richard Cunningham  
Diamondback DB8 2015

Diamondback was showing prototypes of its aluminum-framed DB8 downhill bike almost four years ago, way back when gravity bikes had only one wheel size. During that time, while they were threatening each spring that the pre-production versions would actually be manufactured and sold to the public, Diamondback continued to massage the DB8's geometry and suspension, and more recently, they redesigned the 200-millimeter-travel chassis for 27.5-inch wheels. When we were notified that the Diamondback was planning to debut the production version at Whistler Crankworx, we jokingly referred to their pride and joy as the DB-L8.

Puns aside, Diamondback's Jon Kennedy showed us the 2015 DB8 and said that framesets are in stock and that complete bikes will be shipping this October. The debut of the DB8 will give dyed in the wool Diamondback fans much to revel about, and its very affordable (for downhill) $3500 USD sticker price should put the well-appointed gravity racer squarely on the radar of potential customers who may know very little about the brand. Diamondback offers the frame with a DB seatpost, FSA headset and a Fox DHX RC4 Kashima shock for $2500 USD. Sizes are "long" and "short," with the two sizes sharing the same geometry, except for the small’s 22-inch and the large’s 23-inch top tube lengths. Weights were not given at the launch.


Specifications
Release Date 2015
Price $3500
Travel 200mm
Rear Shock Fox Van RC, 9.5"x3.00, 400lb spring/short, 450lb spring/long
Fork RockShox Boxxer RC 27.5" 200mm travel
Headset FSA - 57-1
Cassette Shimano Tiagra, 12-28
Crankarms Shimano Zee
Chainguide FSA Gravity chainguide
Bottom Bracket Shimano
Pedals DB4L Platform CNC, w/replaceable pins, sealed bearings
Chain Shimano HG54 10-speed
Rear Derailleur Shimano Zee
Front Derailleur NA
Shifter Pods Shimano Zee
Handlebar Diamondback Probar, 785mm, 15mm rise
Stem Diamondback Direct Mount, 31.8mm
Grips DB4L "Lock on" Kraton
Brakes Shimano Deore, 203mm F/180mm R rotors
Wheelset Diamondback OEM spec
Hubs Novatech
Spokes Stainless steel, 14-gauge
Rim Sun Ringle Inferno
Tires Kenda Honey Badger, 27.5" x 2.4"
Seat Diamondback Race, M-series
Seatpost Diamondback, 31.6mm



Construction

Diamondback constructs the DB8 chassis from 6061-alloy aluminum. The suspension system is derived from Diamondback's "Knucklebox" system, which uses a stiff, triangulated single-pivot swingarm to drive a downtube-mounted shock through compound linkage. Reportedly, the two Knucklebox links create a rising shock rate to buffer G-outs and large events, while keeping the mid-stroke supple in order to maintain traction. Much of the DB8's suspension strategy is intended to keep the mass of the frame centered as low as possible. The Fox Van RC coil shock passes through a forged-aluminum tunnel and mounts low on the downtube, and the linkage is very compact as well. Cables and hoses are routed externally to facilitate quick component changes on race day, with the exception of the final run of housing to the Shimano Zee rear mech' that is threaded inside the upper swingarm tube to keep it out of trouble in a crash.

Diamondback DB8 2015
  (Clockwise) Frame-mounted rubber pads protect the fork and head tube area from damage. A look down the Honey Badger tire shows the DH8's plastic demi fender intended to mask the suspension linkage from crud. The two-stage Knucklebox linkage multiplies the force between the single-pivot swingarm and the shock. The seat tube tunnel gives easy access to the DB8's suspension and helps to keep its mass low in the frame.


Details, like intelligent cable and hose routing, frame-mounted rubber fork-tube bumpers and a dedicated mudguard to protect the exposed rear-suspension linkage give the DB8 credibility in the pro ranks, and its geometry looks good too. Stability should be enhanced by its 64-degree head angle, which should act like it’s a degree slacker, given the larger wheels. Chainstays are on par at 17.75 inches (451mm) and its 68-degree seat tube angle should help the DB8 feel centered while descending steep trails. The larger wheels allow for an eight-millimeter bottom bracket drop, which will boost cornering traction and help the DB8 get up and over rocks. Rear axle spacing is 150 millimeters and the bottom bracket is threaded, so most customers will be able to transfer their favorite components if they so wish. As mentioned earlier, Diamondback offers the DB8 frame in two top tube lengths - 22 and 23 inches (559 and 584 millimeters) - so the wheelbase lengthens by 30 millimeters, while the all other numbers remain the same between the two options.

Diamondback DB8 2015
  (Clockwise) A Fox Van RC coil shock provides 200 millimeters of rear-wheel travel. Diamondback's good-looking direct-mount stem tops the DB8's RockShox Boxxer RC fork. We like the Shimano Zee drivetrain, but wonder why DB chose Deore-level brakes. The chainguide is an FSA Gravity Light.


Diamondback DB8: Geometry
Short
Long
Seat tube length 430mm" 430mm
Seat angle 66° 66°
Head tube length 120mm" 120mm
Head angle 64° 64°
Wheelbase 1234mm 1264mm
Top tube length 559mm 584mm
Chain stay length 451mm 451mm
Bottom bracket height -8mm -8mm
Stand-over height 765mm 765mm
Reach 432mm 460mm
Stack 627mm 627mm


Diamondback


260 Comments

  • 270 29
 Deore brakes > anything avid. Thats why
  • 669 38
 Shimano brakes > Hayes brakes > Mechanical disc brakes > Rim brakes > Using your foot to stop........................ >Avid brakes
  • 34 63
flag EuanBisset145 (Aug 20, 2014 at 15:10) (Below Threshold)
 The funny thing is you'll find people complaining about every make of brake and saying how good the brand they choose is. I like shimano brakes but I just wish they would ditch servo wave or make it in such a way as it doesn't affect the brake lever feel.
  • 60 3
 price of a frame for an entire bike... sign me up!
  • 7 17
flag cuban-b (Aug 20, 2014 at 15:24) (Below Threshold)
 uh oh dont let sherbet see this comment lol but i wholeheartedly agree Smile
  • 46 6
 Sticking scrotum between seat and wheel > Avid brakes. Road those mechanical pieces of shit for 3 years, they're so slippery that I used to take a belt sander to them.
  • 125 46
 if you don't like your avid brakes, you probably haven't set them up/ bled them correctly. sure avid's low end brakes aren't the best, but their high end stuff is excellent
  • 53 12
 yeah if you want to win the arm pump world champs. #burn.
  • 17 47
flag tomaf47 (Aug 20, 2014 at 15:37) (Below Threshold)
 technically you are all amusing that avid brakes perform the worst, which makes them the best because brakes only slow you down!
  • 19 8
 I've owned several pre 2010 Avid brakes (Code and Juicys) and they were all good. I very rarely needed to bleed them, they had good power and excellent feel, I couldn't ask for any more than that.
I owned a set of 2012 Avid X0s on code calipers, really good feel and power when they worked but air would mysteriously get in and then the lever bodies started coming apart so I replaced them with shimano Zees which didn't have as good lever feel but still had the power, they weren't the most reliable and needed bleeding very often, so I changed the lever bodies for XTR race which don't have servo wave so feel as good as the avids and they have been reliable so far. Also have owned Hayes Nines which were bullet proof and formula Rx's which I wouldn't recommend as they lack good feel and power.
  • 23 5
 I still own Avid Code 2007 brakes with 203 discs..only bleeded them twice so far when replacing my pads. They still have amazing braking power and I'm planning on keeping them until they die...which means I may keep them forever Smile .
  • 6 7
 Never ever get their mech brakes. I tried everything imaginable to fix them.
  • 18 8
 ...i love my newest gen code brakes. dont like any of my riding buddy's saints. seriously. i wonder if all the avid haters were using OEM XC brakes on their DH bikes expecting them to preform or something?
  • 22 51
flag danielkupien (Aug 20, 2014 at 16:04) (Below Threshold)
 avid the best! shi(t)mano
  • 40 1
 i ran a set of 2012 elixir 9's on a couple of bikes over the span of two years, they were only bled once in that time when they were new. i did practically zero maintenance on them too. to date they are the best feeling brake i have ever owned and they never faded, even with long days at whistler. i liked them so much i bought a set of 2014 elixir 9 trails and they were very nice brakes as well.
i consider myself to be a pretty competent bicycle mechanic and i've worked in the industry a little while now. in my opinion a lot of mechanics don't know how to maintain avid's very well. as i said above, if they're set up correctly, they work great, and they're easily adjustable, particularly the higher end models with "pad adjust".

please note that i have not knocked shimano brakes once here, they're excellent! i just hate listening to people bitching about avid all the time. they make great brakes, they're easy to get parts for, they have their own unique feel (just like shimano does!), and they're well priced in comparison to the equivalent models from their competitors. so each to their own. neg prop away!
  • 13 10
 People who say avids are bad obviously never had them set up right. I find my juicy fives very easy to bleed and only have done so once after they sat for years in a box. I run bb7s on my xc bike and theyre not even bad. Definitely the best mech brakes ive ran.
  • 38 11
 avid brakes work much better on the trail than on the internet.. shimanos have terrible modulation..id rather have to bleed a pair of xo trails than run shimanos..
  • 9 0
 I'd second the notion that avid/sram brakes modulate way better than shimanos. In the budget friendly brake department I have to give the nod to Shimano though; Deore brakes are hard to beat for the $$
  • 7 2
 I totally agree with bgmullan. I've had Avids and zero issues. If brakes are set properly and taken care of, you will have a great experience with almost any higher level brake brand. This bike looks sick. Way to go DB.
  • 6 4
 I've gotta say, I've had issues with my saints. So much lever stroke before the brakes actually catch, had to be bled 2 times by 2 different mechanics including replacing the hose and checking for leaky seals, and 2 bleeds by me, now they feel better than they did, but if I'm honest, I got better feel in the lever from Juicy 5's. On the plus side for the Saints, since bleeding there is no noticable fade in a full DH run, or even a day at a park. Can't say the same for the Avids...
  • 7 0
 I just wish they'd put zee brakes over deores.
  • 5 3
 avids did suck for years, but last year were decent and this year are good.
  • 4 1
 @TomShark

I know what you mean with the issues with Saints. I had the same issues with the rear brake on my set of Zee's. Took me a few bleeds in a row before the issue went away. Didn't have to replace any hoses or anything however. Kinda the opposite with Avid, whenever I bleed Elixir's they end up rock hard and I have to let a bit of fluid out.
  • 9 20
flag michaelnfinney (Aug 20, 2014 at 18:58) (Below Threshold)
 shimano > Hayes > mech disc brakes > rim > using your foot to stop > kickback brakes on wal-mart kids bikes >............. then avid
  • 11 26
flag Mtbguy87 (Aug 20, 2014 at 19:12) (Below Threshold)
 Saints fade and feel terrible. There's a reason cars and motorcycles don't use mineral oil. Guess the guys in Japan haven't got the memo
  • 10 5
 All I gotta say is fuck formulas, they can suck a fucken...get the picture...fuckem
  • 8 0
 Tell us how you really feel
  • 15 1
 Hopes. just for lever feel alone.
  • 17 17
 If you don't like Avid brakes, it's because you are a shitty mechanic.
  • 8 1
 Im an avid PB commenter, which explains why I couldn't stop myself from posting. So... how about that DB8? Looks like a solid bike for the price.
  • 1 2
 hey carson storch was riding this in borderline stupid
  • 8 1
 Captainvanawesome I have been a mechanic for 8 years and i feel that Shimano's are the best feeling brake out of the box as well as many years after. and the majority of my customers must think the same because i cant even remember the last time i installed new avid brakes on a customers bike, Also my warranty records show i warranty 85% more avid brakes than shimano.
  • 10 23
flag seraph (Aug 20, 2014 at 21:15) (Below Threshold)
 IMO: Formula > Avid > TRP > FSA > Hayes > Magura > Shimano
  • 3 0
 Never have much problem with my avid brake since 2011 i bleed them like 3-4 time.. Easy to use to set up to do maintenance on them
  • 14 13
 Shimano fan boys are the like the special Olympic kids of biking
  • 5 2
 i have elixar 1s they stop me fine every one can stop there bitching
  • 1 10
flag seraph (Aug 20, 2014 at 22:45) (Below Threshold)
 @rumblefish255 I have been a mechanic for 15 years and while old Shimanos did indeed feel good out of the box, but their newest generation feel like shit compared to Formula.
  • 1 1
 Ditto
  • 3 0
 I have to say I've ridden both only low end versions of both and rode my acids before I had tried anything else thought they were adequate and people always told me they thought they were a bit spongy but I quite liked the progression on them then I got shimano slx brakes which are insane couldn't go back I've done no maintainance to either as I wouldn't know where to start and from day one they don't feel any different they stop me far better than the acids did I couldn't got back
  • 9 0
 What's up with this hate against elixirs?
Past couple of years I've owned two different elixir models and they both worked really well. I've had more problems with shimano zee and formula brakes, but nothing major on either one. Generally IMO all current brakes work really well, if set up correctly.
  • 10 3
 I must be the only person that absolutely loves the X0 Trail.
  • 9 4
 im avidly against shimano Wink
  • 1 0
 yay.
  • 7 1
 @wolfe38

Nope, I love mine too. 2014 XO Trails on my SB66 are the dream.
  • 4 0
 I thinks avids are a bit of hit or miss, there good ones and bad ones, I personally have only had one bad avid brake, and trust me it was friggin awful, other than that, i just didnt paticulary enjoy the power of my codes
  • 3 2
 Deore crankset and shifter and zee brakes woud have been a better choice, imho.
  • 4 3
 Avid fanboys...go bleed your brakes. Now that made me chuckle.

Is there really that much hate for Avid? I thought I was the only one who had a bad experience. Back in 2000 my Hayes brakes were ok but required frequent but not unmanageable bleeding (and those syringes were annoying). Then I got some Juicy 5s which were a nightmare so I upgraded to the 7s. Talk about a pain - spongy, frequent bleeding, even more annoying syringe setup (although the threaded connectors were nice).

I'm now using a British brake brand. You know what it is - go get yourself a set. I bleed mine once every couple years just for kicks (since they're so easy to maintain). It's been 7 years now and they've got my business for all their high quality products.
  • 1 2
 What do you mean by "brakes"???
  • 2 0
 @bigdrop Avid doesn't even own the mechanical disc brake game anymore. TRP Spyres/Tektro Aquilas are the same price (or cheaper) and are better in every way: lighter, simpler setup/adjustment, 2-piston movement, and great power and feel. Owned BB7m and BB5m for a long time and I'll never even consider them again after I put Spyres on my cross bike.
  • 2 1
 Heck ya bud my codes work great and my code 5s worked great until I upgraded to the codes and my elixir 5s work awesome on my dj
  • 1 0
 @seraph I will have to try out some of those formula brakes, I have been hearing allot of good things about them. Maybee next build but can't say i can complain or have reason to change from shimano, it would be out of curiosity more than anything.
  • 5 2
 debuting at crankworx '15: the Avid Arm Pump World Championships. sponsored by Shimano lol
  • 1 0
 @bkm303 I bought my bb7s in 2011. I havent owned any others, but I have tried several, non of which were good.
  • 1 1
 formula The One, had Hayes, avid and shimano, only shimano came close
  • 1 0
 I don't understand how the frame itself is 2500. So all the components together are only worth a grand new am I missing something here
  • 1 0
 @mhoshal - that's how price breaks work. DB gets the components for cheap enough from the manufacturers that they can build a complete bike that costs less than the sum of its parts at retail.
  • 1 0
 @mhoshal

Think of it as advertising cost to the manufacturer. Just like MS will sell windows censes to say Dell for $50. Even if DB sells it at cost they're probably making a nice chunk off the frame anyways and if the cheaper price brings in a horde of new customers they win.
  • 1 0
 Im sure none of you have done an out of the box bleed on the new avids. If you ever get a chance to get on new avids, bleed them immediately. Cant speak for anything but the codes, but that sorted me on my new ones for this year. Had crazy problems with the same brake set last year, didn't do an out of the box bleed. My 2 cents.
  • 4 0
 Hands down the worst thing about shimano brakes is the fans. myself included.
  • 1 0
 #graspingatstraws
  • 4 2
 Out of the box bleed? are you serious? that supposed to be normal? You tell us its normal to pay for something that needs to serviced before you even use it?

You guys are seriously cranking me up!
  • 4 0
 40's and boxers need them too, really anything that comes with oil in it should be checked before your ride it.
  • 2 0
 I'd bitch about Avids too but I know how to follow a youtube video on how to properly bleed them. Plus I dare you to show me better customer service in this galaxy then SRAM.
  • 2 0
 My Avid Code r works perfectly. Can't understand those complaints...
  • 4 0
 People complaining about "out of the box bleeds" must really love running that rear brake line about 2ft too long....

good thing you people dont ride motocross...you would be really bummed when you have to disassemble your brand new 9k$ motorcycle and regrease every bolt and bearing before you can ride it...
  • 1 0
 @wydopen and on a mx bike you have to do constant oil changes and continues maintenance
  • 2 0
 Shimanos you can just cut the line down and reattach it. The hole bore is narrow enough that the surface tension keeps it all in. even if you shake it a bit and lose some, its an open system, so the bubble just ends up in the reservoir and you will never notice it until you bleed them. not because they need a bleed, just because you feel you should. Like a girlfriend that is suspiciously low maintenance.
  • 2 0
 @djkonaeighthundred And you dont? I have to do 3 oil changes in my fork so far this season and 4 tear downs. How clapped out is your bike?
  • 1 0
 @gclarida i had to rebuild my fork and shock and a blow up in an older bike
  • 1 0
 You say that as if rebuilds aren't necessary. You stuff probably wouldn't have blown up had you have done proper and often maintenance.
  • 1 0
 i just got the bike 2 months ago @gclarida
  • 1 0
 and the old bike wasent mine i was rebuilding it
  • 1 0
 Wydopen: May I recommend Hope?! Cut the line, pop it back in there, pump the lever twice, done...
And if you really have to bleed, it can be done with one hand tied behind your back in in 5 minutes... Both brakes...
  • 1 0
 I have shimano XT's on one bike and Avid Elixor CR's on the other. Compared to the Avid's i call the XT's my digital brakes. off or on.
  • 1 0
 You must run a 40. I race my bike and haven't had to touch my fork since putting new seals and oil it at the beggining of the season. The only other crap I have done is swap out 5 rear tires, clean bearings ect, and new chains.
  • 1 0
 Yes i run a 40, all of the other suspensions have been far behind it in terms of damping the years past. Seems to be coming back around these days, though.
  • 1 0
 Their dampening is okay. The open bath design is pretty well known for failing though. We would have a lot of guys come in with early model fit rc2 40s that the compresion side needed warranty. I ran a 40 and personally the boxxer feels better. Lighter and less noisy. Besides it took fox forever to finally catch up on the air fork system. That noisy spring 40 got annoying haha
  • 1 0
 @michibretz Ive actually been thinking about it...I didnt like the last pair I tried but that was over 10years ago
  • 1 1
 @bgmullan: Codes have served me well in the past. I now have a set of saints, codes, guides, and honestly, if you know how to do an effective bleed, they all bite hard and stop my 240 lb ass like a charm. i would say the shimano brakes ive had require more frequent bleeds than the avids to a certain degree. Juicy's however, ...... atrocious.
  • 3 0
 @NickDHash: seriously? this thread is 2 years old.... how did you even end up in here?
  • 1 1
 @vernonjeff: yeah, two years later and avid (SRAM) brakes still suck balls.
  • 2 0
 @cuban-b: I'm gonna guess it's your mickey mouse mechanic skills not the brakes that are the problem bud I run nothing but avid/sram and from my codes to my dB 3's and they all work great
  • 1 1
 @mhoshal: actually i'm a fantastic mechanic. so that makes you wrong. don't take it personally, it's not like you designed and manufactured them. it's just an item that people buy and sell. which suck.
  • 2 0
 @cuban-b: naw I'm gonna stick with you suck!!! sram brakes are great!!! And I doubt you're any kind of mechanic if you can't even set up a brake properly lol its pretty basic
  • 1 0
 @mhoshal: When you start engaging in personal attacks based on purchased items, that's when everyone knows you're wrong and have nothing left to say. It's a desperate response and only makes you look weak. So keep it coming because you're not offending anyone. Why you focusing on me anyway? Just look at the rest of this comments section.
  • 2 0
 @cuban-b: still doesn't change the fact that your mechanic skills are so poor you can't set up brakes that are about as simple to set up as a pop up book is easy to read!!!
  • 66 6
 Its nice that a company that sells crappy target bikes steps up their game to the mtb world. They try to make their bikes affordable to everyone. Sick bike and great job to the people behind making it happen.
  • 11 1
 They still make their mission series bikes that are decently spec'd. I had a scapegoat for a few years and it was a great AM bike. They are almost like Ironhorse except when they went to Wal-Mart somebody kept giving the real mountain bike division CPR to keep it alive.
  • 30 1
 I would much, MUCH rather buy this bike for $3500 than that "bargain DH build" Vital did for $4300. This is a really solid build.
  • 15 1
 To be fair, that Vital bike was built up custom from retail priced parts... This is a complete build that definately got volume discounts and special OE prices from the suppliers. All in all, they will probably perform very comparably, but the DB wins at that price...
  • 8 1
 Yes, but the builds are close enough to compare them fairly. The Diamondback gives you $800, a warranty and 27.5 wheels (which helps the resale value if nothing else). The Vital article was meant to be helpful in finding consumers the best bang-for-the-buck value. Diamondback was just a lot more helpful-er..
  • 2 5
 Does anyone have link to the Vital build?
  • 9 1
 Haha that made me laugh zach
  • 4 0
 Agreed, the Spec on this for "entry level" is really solid and easily upgradeable (send the rear shock to avalanche or push in a year) and drop the charger in there. Deore's are solid, but it probably would've been worth spending an extra $30 to get SLX brakes.

That said, you can get A LOT of bike for $3500 in the buy/sell section.
  • 3 0
 DB's stuff is really solid. Buddy of mine just got one of their lower-end 27.5 hardtails and it feels pretty dialed for a bike at that price point. Heard nothing but good things about the Mason series (long travel HT), and their carbon xc and road bikes are sexy and cheap. The builds all look really smart.
  • 1 0
 I agree. I had a 2011 Mission for a few years and loved it. The only reason I sold it was they didn't have a true DH solution.
  • 2 0
 I started out mountain biking on a DB and it was during their "dark ages" so I still have a bad taste in my mouth about it. This does appear to be a strong contender for my next DH rig though, I can't wait to see a full review.
  • 2 3
 "affordable" for that price tag I could buy almost every bike in the line of YT and canyon and the airborne dh full bike(1750 usd) and still have a couple hundred bucks for new equipment
  • 4 1
 @jespinal bullshit. The Toxin is nowhere near the same level of spec (not to mention single crown fork), and Airborne Pathogen frame alone is $1600. Tell me how you're gonna build a Zee/Boxxer level bike off that for much less than $3500. The Airborne bikes are awesome but to say they're a way better deal than this is stupid.

The YT Tues has the DB by a few hundred bucks but nobody in the Americas can get it so we don't care.
  • 1 3
 @bkm303let's say I buy the toxin full bike I'd still have1750 available for upgrades, you can buy a lot of biking shit with that
  • 2 1
 @bkm303 also if you're on your double crown thing putting the same suspension set on the airborne full bike would bring the whole price up to 2935 USD, I still have 575 murican dorrah to spend on bike parts to upgrade
  • 8 1
 You can't get a warranty in the Pinkbike buy/sell section.
  • 2 1
 I'm talking at brand new stuff from jenson usa
  • 34 0
 Wow, thats a super solid deal. Props to diamondback, really seem to be making a good crack at the performance MTB market.
  • 12 0
 not to mention, its a really nice looking bike too. esp compared to the similar price range bikes.
  • 10 0
 Agreed, I would not be ashamed to be seen on this thing, it's a lot of bike for the money!
  • 11 0
 Yep amazing price. Over 99% of us are weekend warriors and paying 12k for a high performance racing bike is not logical. Great move by DiamondBack.
  • 5 0
 I really think in a couple years companies like DB will be the Canyon bikes of the North America, at least up to the mid-range price points. Their stuff is really solid and the parts specs and geometries seem really smart. You can ride a dope-ass bike and still have an extra $1k or more in your pocket.
  • 4 0
 i'd definitely pick one of these rigs up when they go on clearance at the end of the year. think about the bang for buck at that point.
  • 2 0
 cuban-b - judging by the excitement here in this thread, there is a good chance that there will not be any left at the end of the season! Well, maybe $2500 framesets - I'd be a fool not to spend another $1000 to get a complete bike, even if it's not a top-spec build. The 650B fork alone will eat up most of the $1000 difference.
  • 3 0
 True. Just had a thought - I'd happily buy these in bulk if I needed a rental fleet Wink
  • 31 5
 There. It's an affordable bike. Stop complaining about the price of the high end race bikes. Smile
  • 20 0
 WOOT! Nice to see more affordable DH choices for 2015. Good lookin bike DB!
  • 16 0
 I really like the looks of that.
  • 3 4
 Looks like a Transition TR500 ..
  • 4 3
 *sigh*....Most guys these days complain about everything, I mean there is so much "That looks like a trek"....or ...."That looks fugly". It seems people will never be satisfied
  • 2 1
 To me it looks like an older version of a Rocky Mountain Flatline. "roll eyes"
  • 1 0
 Im sure none of you have done an out of the box bleed on the new avids. If you ever get a chance to get on new avids, bleed them immediately. Cant speak for anything but the codes, but that sorted me on my new ones for this year. Had crazy problems with the same brake set last year, didn't do an out of the box bleed. My 2 cents.
  • 1 0
 Also it looks like a Ventana El Cuervo, and an Airborne Toxin, as well as the Tranny TRs. No big whoop. It's gonna kick ass. It's got all the right stuff going on - big through axle, proper headtube, low and slack and en vogue wheels. Sign me up!
  • 13 3
 nice work DB....I am sick of paying over $6k for my rigs only to have them beaten after a week and worth half...total BS with these stupid high prices...everyone knows carbon is cheaper to manufacture and produce so so shit. My buddy last week hit a good size step down at WFMR only to have his carbon bars snap and knock himself out completely....Deity.
  • 14 1
 If there is one component on a Bike that I would never use carbon on would be the Bars. Call me old fashion but when they brake, your in a world of pain.
  • 3 0
 i here yah. hearing a lot of horror stories about carbon handle bars snapping/breaking. i know that carbon is much stronger than alloy but the moment i breaks, it breaks into pieces unlike alloy which would most likely bend out of shape before breaking off.
  • 3 0
 Deity should be able to handle that situation nicely. Did he contact them?
  • 4 2
 Carbon if made properly is stronger than metal. I've had carbon cranks for three years and beat the crap out of them and zero issues. I also have a carbon road bike and have zero issues at 70 kms an hour. Fact is there have been way more aluminium bars that have been broke or bent in the history mountain biking. I know that myself have broken Easton and Truvativ aluminium bars. Doesn't mean they're bad at all. When you eat shit, shit happens.
  • 8 1
 There has been way more aluminum bars break because carbon hasnt been around anywhere near as long especially in cycling...
  • 7 0
 So I can flip a canyon gap with this affordable beast?
  • 3 1
 I will feel more comfortable with carbon when they build super cross bikes with it
  • 5 2
 Always make me laugh when I see people saying "I've had my carbon bars for years and they haven't snapped once" like it's something they should be proud or relieved of. You never hear riders with ali or steel products saying the same thing .
  • 1 0
 I've seen aluminum bars which snapped really bad, I guess any material could snap but carbon is stronger and is where I would put my money if had any...
  • 2 0
 Carbon.....strands of carbon cloth and glue. Lovely!!
  • 10 0
 3500 for a complete bike with a zee drivetrain, boxxer up front, fox outback, and shimano brakes is a killer deal. Finally a bike company who I don't have to sell my family to buy something of theirs
  • 1 0
 I don't see what is so exciting about this..... Specialized has been selling their Status II with an almost identical set up for $3600 for a couple of years now and I'd buy a Specialized over a DB any day
  • 1 0
 A good bike is more than just a good frame. Bad components on a good frame can make it ride like crap. The components on the Status II are subpar compared to Shimano zee as well, I own a Status II and I've had to replace the stock stuff as it broke after a few months. This is a good budget frame with high quality, midlevel components. And for 3500 it's a steal.
  • 10 1
 Looks like a newer Commencal Supreme frame with the older style Commencal seat/chain stays. Props to DB for making an affordable bike that has the looks and it pretty well spec'd!
  • 13 1
 $3500?? I can get 35 Huffy's for that. Pass.
  • 10 1
 My concern with this bike is that at $3500 the comments section will be void of complaints...come on everyone let's find something to hate on!
  • 12 1
 Just go the standard fallback of wheel size. Time to be a dick about it
  • 7 2
 I'll start it off. Honey Badgers. Ew...
  • 7 0
 other than the standard wheel size hatred, there's not a lot to hate about on this bike. it's got full shimano, boxxer front, van rc rear, inferno wheels, kenda tires, and it even comes with flat pedals that don't look bad! i'd rock all that and i'm pretty elitist when it comes to parts on my bike.
  • 6 1
 It's red, I mean c'mon, nobody likes red?!? And the wrong shade, well that's all I got. (Actually, it looks pretty sweet for the price point, crap)...
  • 3 1
 well it does have the dreaded 650b's Wink
  • 4 0
 If you want stuff to hate on: Novatec hubs, probably laced with crappy spokes by a machine, in-house parts throughout which are probably a little heavy, underpowered brakes for the application.

The good news is, most of the in house stuff is either things that come down to personal preference and get swapped out anyway, or stuff that doesn't have major performance advantages between high and low end. OEM wheels on most bikes suck, so that's nothing special here. Deore brakes are probably the only real complaint I would have, and it's clearly a cost cutting measure over the still relatively expensive ZEE brakes.
  • 3 0
 Oh I guess one other downside is that anyone who wants longer than 23" top tube is kinda hosed.
  • 11 1
 I seriously think this is one of the sexiest dh bikes out there
  • 6 2
 Brynwinter I don't know if its faster in the right hands but I do agree with you its a good looking bike. Much better than the demo in my opinion!
  • 2 0
 I agree! This is a good lookin bike! Way to go DB! I still love my old BMX you guys made back in the days!
  • 6 3
 Yeah, but even a can of tomatoes looks better than the new demo...
  • 8 0
 Looks great! I love riding my DH8, easily the best dh bike I've ever ridden Big Grin
  • 4 1
 18.1 inch reach on the large....looks like they made it in short and Kelly McGarry sizes only.
  • 4 0
 Looks good, probably rides good, and is pretty realistically priced for a new dh bike.
Good to see DB thinking about the lower end of the market (and I don't just mean the budget/cheap and nasty end).
And the Deore brakes... They just work, I've been very impressed with all the Deore stuff.
  • 8 0
 id ride that into battle
  • 3 0
 It sucks not being able to get Canyon/YT/whatever in the US, but to be honest the stuff coming from Diamondback, Airborne, and the few other online brands the past few years is really awesome for the money. I'll take a DB or Airborne and an extra grand in my pocket over a major brand bike any day.
  • 3 1
 Forgive me if this appears like a stupid ass comment (as my knowledge is literally zero on anything concerning DH) but is this considered a bargain bike as well?

www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbikes/bike.html?b=3272

I know the Avid brakes are a no-go but overall where would it rank? It's £2078 currently which equates to $3448.41 which is only a smidge under the Diamond Back.

Someone shed some light please? Smile
  • 2 0
 This would be the more comparable Canyon DH bike:

www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbikes/bike.html?b=3271

I still like the Zee stuff that's spec'd on the DB more, but the Canyon seems like a not bad deal, either. I didn't do a currency conversion to USD, but I figured since it was less than the one you linked, it's still less than the DB.
  • 2 0
 That would be roughly $3150 so bikes the canyon I guess could be upgraded here and there with Zee etc. components.

But cheers @gromer
  • 4 0
 I think the canyon isn't as popular because it's not easy to get in the states. How do you even get one here?
  • 3 0
 @dawarsing I believe its impossible unless you spend around 400 dollars on shipping thus making the whole buying direct to save money a waste of time, that said I am quite a fan of canyon and if anyone has any experience with them please pipe up
  • 2 0
 Thanks for posting the link to Canyon's offerring.... I spent about 10mins looking at the Torque DHX and now I want one, badly!
  • 1 0
 I would rather look at YT instead of Canyon when it comes do DH bikes.
  • 2 0
 The bike looks good IMO. I had a silver streak diamondback bmx when I was a kid. It's still in my dads garage over 20 yrs. later , a little tlc and it would be ridable. Cro moly frame , it's such a cool bike. Good job DB , I like it !!!! Now about the brakes , I've had shimanos and avids , I've had MUCH better luck with avids and would never buy shimano again after what I went through. I'm running hope tech V2's now and love them so far. Lots and lots of power and consistent lever feel. Suprised that no one mentioned hope.
  • 2 0
 So glad to see a great solid bike been made at affordable prices for the masses. I'm am sick to death of seeing carbon this and carbon that and then charging you a fortune because it bloody carbon. Good on you DB keep bikes like that coming....I bet it would last longer than any carbon from too .
  • 1 0
 Solid bike and "good enough" for me. There is only one little issue. If tehy put rockshox fork, why not use the same brand shock too. This way you can get the service at the same place (at least in Finland Wink ). But I would love to have one like that. Brakes are no issue. It's not that big thing to upgrade them, IF needed?
  • 1 0
 Holly Crum on the Shimano vs Avid. Perspective is awesome. Shimano didn't impress me and Avid have their problems. Wheel Size any takers... Came here to see what DB has to offer. My DB mission from a 2007 changed my perspective on DB. I bought it because it was a good deal. It was a great bike. Wow.
  • 1 0
 Diamond Back is on to something. Well designed, durable frames matched to workhorse parts spec= winning combination.
The new Mission 27.5 is a very nice bike and this looks to be another great bike for the $. Keep it up DB, this may be my next bike.
  • 1 0
 I love this bike. Rode it at Angel Fire, Trestle, Steamboat... Raced it at the Air Downhill at Trestle. Raced it at Bike Grandby. Its my first DH bike and it has served me well. Also has taken quite a bit of abuse. Other people I have met also have positive things to say. Currently getting the fork fixed, other than that no issues (that are not crash related... broken brake lever, bent pedal spindle, smashed derailleur, and possibly a bent fork tube - thanks to a Kuat rack breaking....)
  • 7 2
 Finnely :-)
  • 11 0
 Finally
  • 2 1
 Looks good. Great price for a starter DH rig. Now let's see a good review. This thing might just start lowering the prices of high end bikes. Don't knock it guys til we at least see a review of how it shreds.
  • 5 1
 This bike shits on vitalmtbs budget bike build that came in at $4300
  • 2 1
 Agreed
  • 1 0
 The 'it looks like' game is hilarious. If a bike actually managed to look totally unique.. you'd bloody hate it. They all look like 'something else' because.. that's what bikes look like. Kapish?
  • 1 0
 Avids have no place on a dh rig imo. I've had 2 sets on different bikes and they were horrible. Spongy fadey and the levers were huge. I currently have some on my xc and I'd day they suit xc better.
  • 1 0
 awesome lines ... sad to know its 27.5... i never tried it so ... maybe its not so bad... it is bad that they are always changing things... i mean evolution is better but i mean ... wheel size?
  • 1 0
 weird, I was looking at mcGarry's slopestyle bike yesterday, which got me wondering what happened to the dh bike. Heres the answer and it looks good
  • 2 1
 This bike isn't really that cheap I got my 2013 Norco Aururm 2 and it came with better brakes, hubs, rims, bar,stem, tyres and chainguide for only $200 more
  • 2 1
 I don't understand why they're using a 27.5 size when if they're going for a cost based customer. Traditionally 650b is more race oriented, am I wrong?
  • 1 0
 I think I have found my new dh bike for next year.. Been waiting and saving, I think this maybe the one I go for. Seems to work for Kelly Mcgarry. Smile
  • 1 0
 Looks similar to the Airborne Toxin. The Toxin is $1749.95

www.airbornebicycles.com/products/138-airborne-toxin-complete-bike.aspx
  • 1 0
 think i found the upgrade to my DB summit, but would have been nifty to have a wider range cassette, and at least Zee brakes or sram guides.
  • 1 0
 looks similar to alot of other bikes out there and or half or more than half the price. I can see bikes like this and future ones like this hurting the big name companies
  • 1 0
 What's the big deal? Norco, specialized, rocky mountain and giant all have affordable downhill bikes. I've seen the aurum sell for $3300 new.
  • 3 0
 Finaly !
  • 2 0
 Everything you need and nothing you don't with this here war pig.
  • 1 0
 This is beautiful. There is no excessiveness in the design. Being simple, you think that it is refined.Smile
  • 1 0
 Poetry!
  • 1 0
 Looks like i know war I'm getting next. Cheap, similar to my last tr450 and sexy.
  • 2 0
 Well. Mike Montgomery, lets see what you do with this at Rampage.
  • 2 0
 Well, I’d rather take a cheaper and better equipped YT or Canyon.
  • 2 0
 Looks like my 2008 commencal supreme dh rig
  • 1 0
 Very good price and spec although Im not really sure about the Honey Badgers though.
  • 1 0
 If only Diamondback had a NZ distributor (That wasn't the local version of Walmart). I want to ride on of these this season!
  • 1 0
 is DB gonna sell this frameset or only full bike ?
  • 1 0
 Yes there will be a frame set. $2500
  • 2 1
 Some one want to buy my scalp? I want this!!!
  • 1 0
 I got off subject I know its not carbon...anyway nice bike DB
  • 4 3
 transition 450 + morewood makulu
  • 2 2
 Lol I was thinking the same thing!
  • 2 0
 Flashback RM5!
  • 1 0
 Anyone else notice the spring collar installed backwards???
  • 2 0
 ii would ride
  • 2 1
 Kind of looks like Morewood Makulu. CMIIW.
  • 1 0
 So its a Rocky Mountain Thrust Link...
  • 1 0
 these are going to sell really well!!!
  • 1 0
 Interested to see a head to head test of the DB8 and the Kona Precept 200.
  • 1 0
 their site hasn't been updated yet!
  • 1 0
 Weird there is a Boxxer WC 2015 on the bike in the pics
  • 1 0
 Yep gt fury is exactly what i thought to
  • 1 0
 good price, I was also impressed with the Rose DH bike.. 2.5k full bike!
  • 1 0
 Yeah they look good, £1900 it says!
www.rosebikes.co.uk
Can't find a geo chart though.
  • 1 0
 The suspension linkage looks just like my '09 DHR.
  • 1 0
 Doesn't GT has the Fury for $ 3360?
  • 1 0
 And Specialized has the Status for $ 3600?
  • 1 0
 hell yeah! go diamondback!
  • 1 0
 Its A sxtrail 2007 whit out fsr!!!
  • 1 0
 Why is there an air adjustment on the boxxer RC?
  • 1 0
 Once I get a job, my whole bike quiver is gonna be DB.
  • 1 0
 Shimano!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 1 0
 All ingenious is simple...
  • 1 0
 tricky configuration... though I'm an owner of DB.
  • 1 0
 Those top tube numbers seem a bit on the short side.
  • 3 3
 Put a ferrari sticker on that bitch
  • 5 5
 Take notes specialized/santa cruz
  • 1 0
 Then why would you go for the diamondback rather than the status' proven design?
  • 6 5
 Exactly HOW is the shitty status "proven"? f*ck specialized. That could be DBs new sales pitch: "at least it's not a f*cking specialized..."
  • 2 0
 dirteveryday, do you have personal "shitty" experience with status? I own one, and it is a very good bike, that comes well fitted for bike-park use straight from the box even in cheapest version, and it has tons of upgrade potential.

Same can be said about this one, a nice clean-looking bike with a very solid spec for super good price. Did I overlook any info about when it hits the market, or is it not known at this point?

PS: I like an affordable 27.5 wheeled bike. Kill me now.
  • 6 6
 Old Commencal supreme..... Jus sayin
  • 3 1
 yup and those were great bikes
  • 1 1
 Scrolled all the way down to make sure someone else didn't say it bed or I did. Turns out you did.
  • 1 1
 *before
  • 1 3
 Airborne, propain, transition etc. Same cad file, same tubeset, same sweatshop. Good points: Single pivot, triangulated rigid rear end, properly speced. Should work well.
  • 1 1
 How do hope brakes compare to saints?
  • 1 1
 tech 3 v4 to be specific
  • 3 6
 Lol @ $3,500 being a "cheap bike". Glad I'm not budget restricted and can get what I want but $3,500 is still not what should be called an "affordable" bike. That's more than most of our first cars I'm betting.
  • 1 0
 well done DB!
  • 1 0
 looks like new lapierre
  • 1 0
 too bad its 650b
  • 1 4
 db eight? seriously? dont you think it has a very similar name to a very famous downhill bike that starts with d and ends with eight?
  • 1 1
 look like tr500
  • 1 1
 oh look a tr450 rip off!
  • 4 6
 Kind of looks like the GT Fury!
  • 2 1
 I can see some Transistion styling with seat tube. Definitely not a Trek though. Overall a nice looking bike.
  • 3 0
 seriously? this thing was ridden by mcgarry before the new fury was seen anyways. looks like a good deal, nice one diamondback...
  • 4 0
 now you too can back flip over a huge gap. . . love the DB
  • 1 1
 i can def see the fury look, but to me it looks almost like a perfect copy to the nukeproof pulse.
  • 3 1
 i think I see it too.....there's wheels, tubing, yup you're right!
  • 1 0
 Yeah, your right. It does look more like the Pulse.
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