First Look: DMR Trailstar - Eurobike 2015

Aug 25, 2015
by Paul Aston  
DMR Trailstar



DMR Trailstar

Details
• Slack, low, fun
• 27.5” specific
• 27+ compatible (2.8” tyre clearance)
• 140/150mm fork geometry
• Stealth dropper routing
• Tapered head tube
• Heat treated 4130 chromoly steel
• ISCG05 mounts
• Super low standover height
• S,M and L sizes
• 2.8kg
• Stealth Black, Throwback Blue
• MSRP: £499.99 | €899.99 | $749.95 USD (frame only)


The 4130 tubed Trailstar attained an almost cult-status when it arrived in the UK around 15 years ago. One of the first 'all-round' bikes that you could take out on the trails, to your local dirt jumps, BMX track or even down a couple of stair-sets in your local town centre. It would do that still remain in one piece.

This completely re-designed version uses the original graphics with 'Stealth Black' or 'Throwback Blue' colours but the geometry and styling is a whole new beast. Geometry-wise there's a slack 66º head angle teamed with a 72º seat angle. Virtual top tube lengths are 595mm, 614mm and 634mm for the small, medium and large sizes respectively combined with 425mm chainstays out back. A threaded 73mm bottom bracket drops 40mm below the axles with a 150mm travel fork. 142x12mm Swopouts with thru-axle are included, and a quick release Swopout will be available.


DMR Trailstar
DMR Trailstar


bigquotesThe original AM hardtail is reborn and ready for all you can throw at it. With slack, low geometry and a short rear end the Trailstar is built for the riding which got you hooked in the first place. - DMR Bikes


DMR Trailstar

DMR Trailstar
DMR Trailstar

DMR Trailstar

DMR Trailstar
A 31.6mm seat tube with stealth dropper routing.

DMR Trailstar
'Throwback Blue' paint and graphics to match the original Trailstar

DMR Trailstar
The chainstays are wide enough to accommodate Plus-sized tires.


DMR Trailstar

DMR Trailstar
DMR Trailstar

DMR Trailstar


The Trailstar will be available as a frame kit only, but DMR have plenty of their own components if you crave brand alliance. Bars, stems, cranks, chainrings, saddle's and pedals of course.



MENTIONS: @dmrbikes






121 Comments

  • + 37
 A total classic reborn. All my mates had them and I bought the Sidekick. Stick some awesome for the time orange Z1 Bombers on or the poor mans RST Moto 3.5's on the front. We rode everywhere on those.
Im in the market for a 650b steel frame at the mo so quite excited but DMR, this is 400g heaiver than a Stanton Switchback for the same money and that uses Reynolds tubes (though think it has a 4130 arse).
Its not ruled out though!
  • + 0
 Check out the new production privee Shan with matching orange spank wheels. I saw it on spank 's Facebook yesterday. It looks fully rude.
  • + 3
 Totally agree. I reckon the old trail star was like £220? Maybe less, that was part of its appeal. I also had a sidekick back then and just bought a Switchback now I've got big boy pants (and a job). I wouldn't have even considered this at that price point had it been available a few weeks back. I was excited to see an oldy make a come back but...a bit disappointed tbh!
  • + 7
 Read this... Went to dig round in the garage and got old my old trailstar frame... In the process of a re build and re-spray as we speak... What an amazing bike.
  • + 32
 When it was £220, a mars bar was 25p, a bottle of coke was 50p, it wasn't ok to be gay and there were only eleven speed cameras in the whole country. A lot has changed. £220 in 1995 was probably worth more than £500 is worth now, since they keep just making more money all the time.
  • + 2
 @jaame i did consider this. I'd be happy for somebody to prove me wrong but I think I paid £220 in 98/99, surely £499 isn't the equivalent 17 years later...oh wait. I just realised its 17 years! Cripes. The comparison to the Switchback still stands as my argument though that this DMR is overpriced.
  • + 4
 For any other ageing hardtail enthusiasts I did a few inflation comparisons. Obviously this only considers inflation and not market trends but £220 in 98 = £270 in 2015/ £499 in 2015 = £405 in 98.
In 98 DMR were big in the UK, I'd say not so big now. Everything was DJ back then, everything is Enduro right now.
  • + 7
 Cool. So it is overpriced.
  • + 2
 Regardless of what you naysayers above have commented, I rather like it but I would like to see it built up in the black as well.
  • + 3
 Errrm, the exalt ticked pretty much the same boxes for less although on 26" and no dropper post routing but that was way back in 2007. sorry DMR but cotic and stanton have you licked, a BFe is way more affordable and looks cleaner.
  • - 7
flag Jamesb15uk (Aug 26, 2015 at 7:39) (Below Threshold)
 The 90's called, they want their bike back
  • + 5
 Whether it's a simple price hike or down to inflation is kind of irrelevant. DMRs appeal back in the day was that it was good value, especially compared to what else was available at the time. Now all their stuff is just priced more or less the same as everything else and they've lost their advantage.
  • + 1
 @ThomDawson, how do you like your switchback??
  • + 2
 I LOVE my Switchback. So versatile and so much fun. Really composed in a variety of terrain -- happy at high speed, yet really maneuverable on tight tracks. It loves to air out on the trail. Mine has a 800mm wide carbon bar, xt brakes, with a Pike and 3.35in tires, dropper post. The only complaint I have is that I'd like another 10-15mm clearance (even 25!) at the chainstays.
  • + 3
 @davemays have yet to ride mine, just putting the last few bits together. I can say that the finishing on the welds and paint are quality and it's the lightest steel frame I've hefted. Very excited about it!
  • + 4
 That extra bit of clearance is a must really if you're running 3.35" tires, just to be able to inflate them. Kidding. 2.35" must be the absolute maximum in the Switchback, not even sure if it would work in my frame. I'm running 2.25" in the rear and I don't think I should ask for more. Probably also depends on how wide your rim is.

So yeah, the Switchback could have done with a bit more tire clearance and that's really the only thing that keeps me eying for alternatives. Then again I couldn't part with it either I guess. The other thing is the 26.8mm seatpost, bent quite a few of those just riding to and from the trails with the seat up. That becomes an issue when at the trails as the I can't lower it that much anymore. Went through quite a few of those. But the ride is amazing and that makes up for it all. My previous frame was a nice blue Voodoo Erzulie. Loved it as well but unfortunately broke it in a crash. The Switchback is more fun though, so all is good. As much as I love DMR though, if I'd have to buy a hardtail frame now it'd be (26") Cotic BFe. Or, if on a budget, the (26") On One 456Evo.
  • + 1
 @vinay I was talking about the Stanton Switchback...
  • + 1
 @M1nt5auce that's one of the calcs I used then averaged a few. I'm not an economist and those numbers should be taken with a large pinch of salt. I was just curious really since the topic came up.
  • + 0
 @vinay , that's interesting your two choices for a new hardtail would both be 26" wheeled bikes, do you not like how the 27.5" wheels feel on the switchback? I'm considering a switchback, but am very much used to 26" wheels myself. Love trails with little jumps all over them, and sometimes wonder if 27.5 would feel right. I also prefer bikes to feel really maneuverable, so I wonder if the switchback's slack head angle would feel weird. Wish there was a way to test some sort of aggressive, steel, slack 27.5 hardtail, but I might just have to imagine it..
  • + 25
 That's not a Trailstar- it's gash. It shares nothing with the original other than the decals and a name. The original was iconic for its versatility and simplicity. Does this look simple with all those curved/jointed tubes? Nope. Will you want to properly hit dirt jumps on a 140-150mm frame? Nope. Will it shred for 'Enduro' or general dicking about as it used to be called? Yes. So why bother with all the heritage crap. It's a totally new bike for a totally different scene to that of 15+yrs ago.

I love DMR, I grew up with them as a brand and rode numerous DMR frames and parts (including a V-brake only, BMX BB MK1 Trailstar from '98ish) I just can't help but feel they have missed the mark with this one in many ways.
  • + 5
 Agreed. They should have changed the name
  • + 6
 fully f*cking +1 on that dude, I've been waiting for ages for an update for my Trailstar. A tapered head tube and more tyre clearance was all it needed. There's no way you'll be able to dirt jump this piece of shit - 650b f*ck off back to enduroland
  • + 2
 To be fair my 18" trailstar LT need some more length in the cockpit. I'm over 6ft, so it would be nice to have a trailstar that fits a bit better.
  • + 2
 they should have just made two lengths, like the Bolt...
  • + 2
 The bolt and the bolt L are more like different bikes to me, rather than the same bike in a different size. I'm really interested to try the longer bolt, I think I'd really like it if it fits me.
  • + 9
 "Enduro or general dicking about as it used to be called."

Exactly. What the pros do is enduro. What we do is dicking about.
  • + 23
 Loved my old trailstar but what is this?
I don't like that top tube at all.

Stealth dropper routing, we just put an extra hole in the frame.
  • + 2
 It's not exactly true to the original hey. I wonder how much extra you have to pay for that extra hole in the frame!
  • + 31
 in my experience, access to extra holes comes at a great cost increase
  • + 2
 speed holes are always a popular upgrade in the car world:
www.frequency.com/video/im-putting-speed-holes-in-my-car-makes/149785602
  • + 7
 The trailstar was the original do-anything dirt jump/play-bike/have-a-blast hardtail, it looks like DMR have forgotten what it was all about... too much travel and too ugly, can't imagine taking that over some jumps
  • + 4
 100% on the money - DMR have f*cked it. Sad times
  • + 3
 @rockstorm I'm getting the impression you don't like this one dude :-P
  • + 3
 Just really disappointed man. I was sold on a Stanton 26" but the DMR swapout system was so good - being able to go from geared to ss was a major point in the bike being versatile, that I thought I'd wait and see what DMR were going to do for the new one. I was hoping for something true to the original, something that you could dirt jump, ride uphill, smash dh on etc without a huge compromise one way or the other. The last incarnation of the Trailstar was almost perfect. It just lacked tyre clearance for 2.5" tyres and didn't have a tapered steerer so fork choice is now tricky (the dual position Sektor 110/140mm is the only adjustable fork that will work with this kind of bike that is still available). This new one just doesn't fill the bill and it looks like shit.

Fair enough if DMR wanna make this bike but I'm just dissappointed that 650b is making bikes less versatile and means that if people want a cheap and simple bike to ride everything on then they have to buy two bikes...
  • + 1
 What would have made the perfect New Trailstar!?... The old one!... Just updated with tapered headtube, 142x12 rear axle and a larger diameter seat tube to accommodate a dropper post, but kept the geometry and styling the same. I also really dont see the need for 650b, its virtually he same as 26"... The original Trailstar rode awesome, so why change it to something else!?
  • + 2
 Bitching about it being a different bike with new uses intended and then wanting a fucking dropper post incorporated. It's a complete contradiction
  • - 2
 For the record, I couldn't give a fuck about a dropper post. If you have to pedal, stand the fuck up or get off and undo your qr!
  • + 6
 Anyone who doesn't like a dropper post hasn't used one... Period!
  • + 2
 That's not the point, I love a dropper, but you moan about the design changing but then say you want a dropper. A dropper wasn't part of the origin bike just like 150mm suspension wasn't
  • + 3
 @scandal42 the only difference to the frame is the seat tube diameter, a dropper is then optional, its not part of a frame so you wouldn't have yo run one, there's just no harm in allowing for one as they are super handy albeit a damned overpriced commodity
  • + 5
 Welcome to 1997. I see what they were trying to do with the low standover (great) but the junction where the seat stay meets the top tube wasn't thought through at all. It functions, but with zero design sense of how it should flow together.
  • + 2
 yeah the designers were drunk and lost vision when they put it together
  • + 0
 Let's hope they read this page and get their shit together for the next one.
  • + 9
 That is not the prettist looking frame to say the least.
  • + 1
 Indeed. All the classic triangle looks from the original trailstar are gone Frown
  • + 4
 I feel sick just looking at it
  • + 5
 Why are companies still using split cable guides for gear cables!? I just don't get it, just fit continuous guides like you do for brake hoses.

That top tube doesn't need that swoop at all, it could have been straight and still had loads of stand over, lines would have looked much cleaner.
  • + 1
 agree on the top tube, it looks so gash. Split gear outer is better in my opinion as you can replace just the sections that get worn and not the whole lot. Usually dirt gets in at the bottom end so there is no need to replace the whole thingWink
  • + 3
 I actually like split shifter cables as you can always shift to a the smallest cog, push the mech towards the large cog and take the cable outers from their frame support. You can then move them around and clean and lube the cable. Better even, get those Middleburn cable oilers and just blow the muck out. Not sure whether these would work that well with continuous cables.
  • + 2
 yeup, what vinay says^Smile
  • + 3
 Wow that looks absolutely amazing. I had a DMR Exalt a few years ago and its still one of the best bikes I ever owned. In fact I used to take that bike to more DH tracks than I did my Trek session that I also owned at the time. If I was looking for a hard tail trail bike this would without a doubt be top of my list.
  • - 2
 My exalt came with the rear end a few millimeters off and then broke, the. DMR told me they would give me 10% off on a crash replacement frame what a joke of a company they are it rode well though well it lasted.
  • + 2
 That must have been a one off as I knew a few people who had them and had zero issues .In fact I'm pretty sure mine is still going strong after I sold it back in 2010.
  • - 1
 I'm sure there 10% off on a crash replacement frame was a one off to. That's the weakest warranty I've seen out of any bike company.
  • + 7
 Like. Long live steel and fun.
  • + 6
 Not so hot on the colour scheme and graphics, but lines are beautifull. Would happily own.
  • + 3
 The graphics seem too retro to me but I like the color. I even like the top tube, after one minute looking at it I go used to.
Do it all, have fun and don't be a dick about bike and bike parts" - that's an anthem for we lovers of hardtails, flat pedals.... you know, be free, go simple and come back home with a smile on your face.
  • + 3
 €899.99 | $749.95 USD ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


WTF economy
  • + 2
 It should be under €800 if you take the $ price, convert to Euro and add the VAT. Not sure what is going on there.
  • + 1
 Better than any of the sub 1000$ JUNK i can get from any Canadian Tire...Thats for certain.
  • + 2
 750$ + Tax CAD Wink for a 29'er CCM
  • + 2
 They stuck all that is popular nowadays (at least in the media) in that single frame. Mid size wheels, room for wide tyres, internal cable routing for a dropper post, long, slack and long fork up front. A stable bike, basically. No doubt there is a market and a purpose for that kind of bike, but I think it is a different purpose and market than the original Trailstar catered for. Still calling it a Trailstar generates the wrong expectations hence disappointment. Reading through those comments here, not everyone takes a disappointment that well. Think of it as something between the original Trailstar and the Exalt and it does make sense. It is not for me though. I think it takes serious "enduro type" terrain to push a bike like this. It also leaves the gap of that simple steel hardtail for all of us ragging around in the woods with a 4" or 5" fork up front and occasionally that 6" fork for that trip to the big hills or bikepark. It is a bit like Volkswagen with their Golf passenger car. It started as a fairly modest sized car and grew so much every few years that they had to introduce new smaller cars to fill the gap. The Polo grew to big as well so they had to introduce the Lupo etc. It is a bit like this with their Trailstar, I suppose. It has now grown too big and DMR needs something to fill the gap.

There are loads of options out there for anyone in need of something like the original Trailstar. I don't actually have the Trailstar but the Switchback (same geometry, lighter tubing, just right as I don't hit the big stuff with it) but if it ever breaks I'd be tempted to go for that Cotic BFe or the relatively cheap On One 456 Evo (26" models). DMR better comes up with something along those lines if they want some of that market share back.

As for that curved top tube, might have been an afterthought. A low frame always make sense and I would have liked it if the top tube just continued its straight path all the way to the seatpost and the seatstays went a bit slacker to join the top tube there. Maybe DMR didn't do that because they got too much vertical compliance. I don't mind that support for the seat tube though. You need it if you want a low frame yet at the same time want to allow the rider to raise the seat to XC height. They got it right with their Bolt L fully.
  • + 0
 I hope they make use of their great Swapout system and fill the gap this bike leaves in the market for a truly do-it-all 26" bike you can run ss or geared - no one else makes that bike as far as I'm aware and I've been looking for it for a while. Cotic, Stanton etc all have vertical drops and no one wants to run a tensioner. I could have a Curtis or a BTR made up but I don't have the best part of a grand to spend on a hardtail frame...
  • + 1
 @rockstorm try a kinesis decade virsa, i got one, basically an old trailstar, will take a tapered fork as it has a 44mm headtube and it uses dmr's swapout system! ok it may not be a thorough hardcore hardtail but it takes a beating and its a cracking rig!
  • + 2
 I must be missing a couple of things.. If it's 650b and will take plus sized.. Isn't that equivalent to a regular 29er wheel diameter? Making it about as far removed from the original one as possible? And also.. Looking at it, it will take wider tyres but surely they will pretty much touch the seattube like a road bike?
  • + 2
 I got quite excited about this... Then I saw it. Pointless, rubbish looking swooptube and the same god awful graphics they used to have. Plus, it's not really an all rounder anymore. Much rather have a nukeproof scout, and believe me.. I want to like british.
  • + 3
 My first trailstar was this colour with the same looking graphics! I do hope to see dmr get big again, I would consider one of there bikes if specialized stopped making bikes
  • + 2
 Love this! it's definitley a modern take on the OG Trailstar. I bet if any of us rode the original Trailstar now it would be kooky as heck! high standover, high BB, 100mm forks & a real long rear end. Amazing at the time but it needed updating and thats exactly what they have done. Props DMR!
  • + 5
 Loves it! Not so much the price, but reckon this would be mega fun! Well done dmr.
  • + 4
 Chromag's getting some competition as of late in the AM Steel Hardtail category it seems...
I wanna see the black color option!~
  • + 4
 Yuk
£500???
You can get UK hand made for that
An it won't have banana tubes
  • + 5
 where can you get handmade steel for £500? most of the stuff I can find is £800+
  • - 7
flag nojzilla (Aug 26, 2015 at 0:42) (Below Threshold)
 Curtis Invictus Limit An many more in the UK, gotta know where to look
  • + 7
 Basic Curtis will set you back £799, so that's not an option.
  • + 3
 Well thats just a lie. @nojzilla
  • - 4
flag nojzilla (Aug 26, 2015 at 3:12) (Below Threshold)
 Whatevs
  • + 4
 i want this more than any bike iv seen on here for a long time. certainly want to see the black version!
  • + 3
 would it be as legendary as the oryginal trailstar? I doubt that
anyway old one still kicks asses: gp1.pinkbike.org/p4pb9033508/p4pb9033508.jpg
  • + 5
 Aggressive hardtail are amazing, I'm a fan
  • + 1
 Loads of English lads and lasses posting here today in support. No doubt -- that whip is a beauty. It's on my list. Bring it back to the basics of riding: a simplified rig, choosing good lines because you must, riding with finesse and doing sweet skids (I know these can all be done on a squishy bike, and they should be). Anyhow -- very nice bike DMR.
  • + 3
 I was like "holy guacamole! A 27.5, 150mm, 2.8kg bike for only $750 US??!!!" Was actually flipping my shit for a few minutes until I realised it said frame only.
  • + 1
 Don't know what you guys are all talking about. That has to be the nicest looking lines I've seen on a HT in a long time. Love the retro graphics. This bike looks like it descends with a ton of stability. I'm seriously thinking of getting one for my wife who wants to ride but is scared to go downhill. FS is too expensive to stick her on. The big fork is ok. Again confidence in the gnar. It has a lock out for gods sakes. Any of you ever hear of progressive travel?? Geez. Settle down folks. I'd rather stick her on something that will take some hits and help her learn to ride with confidence than something someone needs to be an expert bike handler with right out of the shoot. 27.5 wheels are great. Her trek 29" handles like a truck to be honest. This bike is gorgeous.
  • + 1
 Don't know about the Trek but my 29er is fun and er... saved my butt twice yesterday.
  • + 6
 Very cool bike!
  • + 1
 Love steel tails, love how the tubing is so thin compared to the chunky-ass Aluminium frames, aggressive and Gnarly for sure,

We love these types of bikes here in the UK, and I think many are seeing the fun, ease and simplicity of these slack steel machines, yes, we do get looked down the nose little but I just want to ride, not worry about a dozen set of bearings and all the guff .. plus - hell of alot cheaper to boot!!!! - my on-one 456 evo2 in "bloody awful yellow!!!" was a polite robbery of only £149 squid, and I could not be happier.

As for the retro look - well all i can say is that it would have looked ugly back in the day as well - retro is fun and can work, but sorry guys the decor on that machine aint working

keep the steel coming .....
  • + 1
 I don't care how good it looks,rides or lasts. It's a 2.8kg steel frame welded somewhere in China,it should never cost 800€.

Are you going to tell me it is 3x better than a On One?
  • + 4
 This is awesome.....its different...
  • + 4
 someone bring back the Spooky Metalhead !
  • + 3
 That's f*cking sexy.....was gonna get a Privee Shan...........but I like this more! @dunfysavage
  • + 2
 Just wish it came as a complete... all my parts are the good ol' fashioned 26" variety.
  • + 2
 I still ride a trailstar and have to say I would upgrade to this one without a doubt I am loving that frame
  • - 1
 Yeah, cultlike status and great memories of SEEING YOUR FORK DISCONNECTING FROM YOUR FRAME ALONG WITH HEAD TUBE. Not to mention your buddy having his FORK DISCONNECTING FROM HIS FRAME ALONG WITH HIS HEAD TUBE. That was like 2005. Good times. I'm lucky it didn't happen while i was stairgaping and doing JIB stuff, but on a xc singletrail..
  • + 3
 Maybe you guys should work on bunny hopping over things instead of smashing into them Wink
  • + 3
 Coolest thing to come out of Eurobike. I want.
  • + 3
 I like it, it looks like something you gonna have fun for a long time.
  • + 3
 I like it! Bet it rips too.
  • + 3
 Looks like the Trailstar and the new Zesty have been dating.
  • + 1
 That is not a trailstar. It's a new bike. So give it a new name and give the people the original trailstar back.
  • + 3
 badly want on e
  • + 1
 this is what the toptube should look like - www.pinkbike.com/photo/12671346
  • + 2
 Honestly can't decide if it's cool or hideous.
  • + 2
 Looks long. Whats the top tube ?
  • + 0
 @theczech - Im on my 2nd privee shan and its absolutely amazing, seriously its a weapon. obviously cannot comment on the trailstar though.
  • + 0
 when I read 4130 chromoly I wonder whether tange prestige ultimate or columbus or equivalents are still available. they used to give such a nice feeling ride...
  • + 2
 Absolutely love my Trailstar. It's such a fun bike. Now I want this one!
  • + 1
 Has it melted? And given this is the display bike can we assume in looks worse in the other sizes?
  • + 2
 no 26" option? I'm out.
  • + 1
 yeup, fuck 650b
  • + 0
 Thanks to Pinkbike for mentioning max tire size rather than using the Trailblazer 2.5 as definition of "Plus compatible."
  • + 2
 Sick house!
  • + 0
 As a fellow trail star rider I see the need for an update, but this isn't it.
  • + 0
 I mean, if anything, it's an updated, legitimate Exalt.
  • + 0
 Who repainted my Hyper from walmart? Now I know who stole it.
  • + 1
 2.8kg??
  • + 4
 Built to last a lifetime not a season!! I used to own a dmr and i rode that harder than any other bike I've ever owned!
  • - 1
 Mine still broke and they only offered me 10% off on a crash replacement frame what a joke
  • + 1
 i like it
  • + 0
 Blerg. n/m.
  • - 1
 Hello, 00th Smile

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