First Look: DVO, Fizik, Funn - Taipei Show 2014

Mar 5, 2014
by Mike Kazimer  
DVO Suspension

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Already available in a 26" version, the Emerald inverted DH fork will also be available for 27.5" inch wheels.

2014 seems to be the year of the 27.5" downhill bike, and prototypes from nearly every major manufacturer have been spotted as the first race of the World Cup season in Pietermaritzbug, South Africa, draws closer. Keeping up with the growing market, DVO had the 27.5" version of their Emerald fork on display, fresh off the assembly line. As would be expected, the internals are the same as what is found on the 26" Emerald, and the fork uses an air sprung, inverted design with adjustable rebound, high and low speed compression, and an external negative spring preload adjustment. To make the fork fit the larger wheel size, the Carbon Torsion Arch (CTA) and the lower crown have been altered to provide more clearance. The fork's offset has also been changed to maintain the same ride feel as the 26" version.

DVO Diamond lowers

DVO had the lowers for their upcoming Diamond all-mountain / enduro fork on display.


DVO also had a few sets of magnesium lowers for their Diamond single crown fork, a fork we first spotted a prototype of at last year's Eurobike tradeshow. The exact internal configuration of the fork hasn't been finalized, but it will be air-sprung with up to 160mm of travel and many of the same features as the Emerald (except the inverted design), and be available for both 26" and 27.5" wheels. The fork is expected to enter full production in the next few months.

www.dvosuspension.com



Funn Components

Funn 35mm direct mount 2014

Funn is expanding their 35mm lineup, with a direct mount stem and versions of their Fatboy handlebar in the works.


The number of 35mm diameter handlebar offerings and their corresponding stems are gradually increasing, and Funn is the latest component manufacturer to get behind the new "standard." Of course, nothing in the mountain bike industry is ever standard - just look at the number of headset, bottom bracket, and rear hub options, but there does seem to be a growing demand for this larger handlebar size. Funn's Fatboy handlebar will be their first 35mm offering, along with a direct mount stem, the RSX 35. A non-direct mount stem will also be available as well. Final pricing and spec are still to be determined, but the handlebar that was on display measured in at 785mm wide.

Funn Mamba clipless pedal 2014

Funn's Mamba clipless pedal.


First unveiled at Eurobike, Funn's new Mamba SPD-style clipless pedal is aimed towards DH and all-mountain riders looking for a pedal with a wider platform. A DU bushing, needle bearing, and a sealed cartridge bearing are found inside the pedal's 6061 aluminum body, and up to 4 traction pins can be screwed into each side of the pedal. The Mamba's claimed weight is 590 grams per pair for the double sided version, and 530 grams per pair for the single sided version. Colors: black, grey, red, blue, orange. Pricing is still TBD.

www.funnmtb.com



Fizik

fi zi k 2014 M3 shoe Thar saddle

Fizik's M3 shoe and Thar saddle.


Fizik's M3 is the Italian company's new high-end clipless pedal shoe designed with light weight and stiffness in mind. The M3 has a carbon outsole with a replaceable heal, and an aluminum ratcheting buckle plus two hook-and-loop straps for retention. The outer portion of the toe is made from a scratch resistant leather, and a nylon mesh is used elsewhere to further save weight. MSRP: $250 EUR.

The placard next to the Thar saddle is what first caught our eye, boldly proclaiming 'Designed for 29."' A 29er specific saddle? Really? As it turns out, once explained, Fizik's statement does make some sense. The saddle has been designed with longer rails than usual, giving riders 2.5cm more adjustment, and the shape has also been modified to make it easier for riders to get further forward on the saddle. The reasoning is that the geometry of 29ers can shift riders' weight too far back on their bikes, and the Thar saddle is designed to help counteract this. Wheels size claims aside, we could see this saddle being useful now that bikes with longer top tubes are becoming more popular. By being able to shift the seat further forward, riders can maintain a comfortable climbing position, yet still take advantage of the stability that a longer toptube can bring on the descents. Weight: 195g, MSRP: $139 EUR.

www.fizik.com



Stay tuned for more from the 2014 Taipei Cycle Show

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86 Comments
  • 39 5
 those pedals look sweet. Someone giving DX and mallets a completion finally
  • 7 1
 are those holes on the corners for pedal pins?
  • 43 3
 DXs & Mallets have been complete for quite some time now!
  • 15 0
 errr iPhone autocorrect :/
  • 8 0
 What about the Atac Z pedals? Those are my favorite.
  • 7 4
 shimano only.
  • 4 0
 Time Atac Z are great, in my opinion way better than Shimano. New versions Time MX8 look great too.
  • 4 0
 On the Funn Mambas "up to 11 traction pins can be screwed into each side of the pedal" Really? I can only see 4 holes on each side...
  • 2 0
 Looks like that has been fixed now AlexRob. It says 4 a side when I look at it.
  • 4 1
 The center spd portion not being able to rotate is suspect to me.
  • 1 0
 I've been waiting for someone to make a larger platform SPD pedal, those look promising but I still am hoping for the HT SPD prototypes gwin may possibly be riding
  • 1 2
 Auto completion... Lol
  • 1 0
 Those funn pedals are going to be sweeeet in color!
  • 1 0
 Actually both numbers are correct - double sided pedals have 4 pins on both sides, while single sided pedals have 11 pins on the flat side and none of the side with the clip.
  • 1 0
 Small correction, there are 4 pins on the flat side.
  • 19 5
 DVO could really use a graphic designer... I'm sure the engineering's great but their graphics are really amateurish.
  • 1 3
 agreed. bad 80s happening there.
  • 4 0
 graphics add horsepower eh?
  • 4 0
 ^i think only non related stickers do
  • 1 0
 @fullbug the yeti in your picture is breathtaking
  • 1 0
 graves'. wish i'd kept mine! yeah, i was an idiot for lettin it go.
  • 1 0
 They're only samples for the show guys don't worry. It's just a funky color for the show, nothing to lose sleep over.
  • 2 2
 DVO could use a DJ fork!!!!!
  • 1 0
 and this actually was an improvement.
the logo before was beveled, embossed and drop shadowed Big Grin
  • 10 5
 Choose you wheel size and be a dick about it^
  • 4 3
 The reasoning behind that Fizik saddle design is completely flawed. Most 29" have similar top tube lengths to similar sized 26"/650b but longer rear centres placing the rider closer to the centre of the wheelbase than smaller wheel sizes. If anything they should have just marketed it as a longer railed saddle for bikes with short rear centres and slack seat tubes (that suck on steep climbs) but also happen to have long enough top tubes to run the saddle forward without requiring a longer stem.... Huge market I'm sure.
  • 3 0
 Also consider bar height though... higher bars mean more upright seating, resulting in more weight over the back. But your right.
  • 6 4
 Compared to enduro-specific shorts, 29er-specific saddle makes more sense. Love Fizik Smile
  • 3 6
 I have to say, I notice the seat-position issue with my 29'er! Must be because I race it enduro.
  • 1 0
 If you guys look on funn's website, they have two versions of this pedal where one has a clipless side and a platform side, and the other is only clipless.
  • 16 13
 Why is everything 27.5 now, Im happy with my 26
  • 27 7
 Have you been asleep for the last 3 years?
  • 1 1
 best answer ever haha!
  • 4 2
 LkWebz: 26? Sorry, you are asking the wrong question according to Trek.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY61bHIdoe0
  • 3 2
 whats 26? Isn't that what the cavemen used to ride? Thats what all the latest marketing BS told me anyway!
  • 1 0
 Terrafire Im guessing you ride a 27.5
  • 2 1
 I've ridden every wheelsize, 20" through 29". Last year I rode 27.5", this year's bike will be 27.5" as well.
  • 3 0
 The size of you wheel dispute is as pointless as disputing how long of a snowboard you ride. It's all in your preference and how you ride. I'm riding 26" now but I'll try 650b. The only thing stopping me is cost.
  • 5 2
 Some nice stuff but I just don't like the name "Funn"...
  • 6 0
 All you gotta do is pronounce it wrong... (foon) and make it sound european and unique and i guarantee you'll like the brand more haha
  • 1 0
 fizik thar, im guessing you have to pronounce thar like a pirate "thhaarrrrrrr" cant wait for the 27.5 version hope itll be carbon fibre railed
  • 4 1
 Those white DVO's are off the mark
  • 4 1
 Those white DVOs look like a 12 year old drew the graphics on the lowers.
  • 3 3
 I just don't get it!? They're' not even a whole fork, if any other brand bought just a pair of lowers to a bike show and Pink bike reported it, everyone would be like "wtf?!", but when's it DVO everyone's getting amped... I just don't get why everyone's into this brand so much when they have virtually nothing to offer and no proven products...
  • 2 0
 They're only samples for the show. We got the very first samples of the Diamond casting only a couple days ago and had a limited color pallete to choose from. These are not the final castings by any means, just to show you guys some progress.
  • 7 1
 @ctd07 We're a new brand, thats no secret. But it's not the first time any of us have tried to make mtb suspension. We're going about it a different way, great customer service, high performance products, and also transparency in the company. Yeah they are just lowers but they're the very first samples out of the new mold, in which are only a couple days old. We could keep all this secret and not show anyone but what's the fun in that? Pinkbike was nice enough to do a first look at it, no big deal. And to add something, hundreds of emeralds have shipped out and the customers have sent us nothing but amazing feedback. We stay in personal contact with everyone that buys a fork and help with set-up, tuning, etc. All of our new ads you're going to start seeing are all to thank the people that believed in us and have dvo products on their bikes. We're not out to change the world, just offer some cool new products to a sport we all love!
  • 1 0
 I need a proper 26" enduro specific trail/all mountain dirt jump DH saddle - come on Fizik :-)
  • 1 0
 Funn bars have had the worst vibration of any bar I've tried, by quite some margin.
  • 1 0
 Come on PB writers, it's heel not heal. I have read this too many times not to comment!
  • 14 12
 26" for life!
  • 1 0
 is there another DH fork out there has a tapered steer tube?
  • 4 1
 No, because other companies realize how useless that is. The stiffness in a dual crown fork comes from the stanchions and the two crowns, the steerer doesn't add any real structural integrity. Adding a tapered steerer to that fork just means it will fit less bikes and a lot of frames (anything with a tradition 1.5 head tube / 49.6mm ID) will have to use an external cup headset on the bottom.
  • 3 1
 but considering how most moderm DH frames have super short headtubes this shouldn't be a problem, even Turner on the DHR doesn't recommend a zero stack lower headset. Not trying to start an argument as I also don't see why it's better but it shouldn't really be an issue. I can also tell you I absulutely love my DVO emerald.
  • 3 1
 Sure, you're right. But there's always gonna be somebody who wants that ZS cup on the bottom. Or some other idiot who has a older Turner or Spec with the old school 1 1/8 head tube who buys this fork thinking it'll be a sweet upgrade without realizing it won't fit their frame. I just hate when certain design aspects create limitations. Especially when it's completely unnecessary. - See everything made by Cannondale.
  • 3 0
 Well actually, marz uses a tapered steer. Not many people realize this but typically a tapered steer is actually lighter than a straight 1&1\8th. Not to mention the lighter headset that can also be used, so yes, it does make sense.
  • 1 1
 I know tapered steerers are generally lighter, however it's main function is to add stiffness to a single crown design. But how do you figure an external headset will be lighter than a ZS? It uses a larger cup, larger bearing and larger crown race, at least in a 49mm head tube, which is what most DH bikes use.
  • 2 0
 Most semi integrated (internal) lower reducing cup headsets, have a larger spacer of sorts. Making them generally heavier than a non reducing headset.

It does limit some figment, but of you're spending that coin on a fork, you should have lots for a new frme.
  • 1 0
 Nice, thanks for the info and right down to the detail too boys.
  • 1 0
 Spacer? Cup, bearing, and crown race - that's all a bottom headset consists of. I'd like to see some actual weight comparisons on this claim. Cane Creek for example is about 20 grams lighter for a ZS49 to EC49. I give them as an example because I quickly found weights to compare on their website and I love their headsets (really all we sell at the shop)! Not trying to start a fight or be a dick, I just cant see moving to an internal cup and using a smaller bearing and crown race adding weight. Maybe other companies use a really different design from the CC stuff. To be quite honest I have fiddled with some FSA, King, and Ritchey headsets but not much else and I think most of those were back in old 1 1/8 fits everything days! I've been a dedicated Cane Creek fan for awhile now!
  • 4 1
 DVO Engineer here...We used a tapered steer tube design because it's stronger, period. We have seen our fair share of steer's ripped out or snapped off. The tapered steer tube is far superior. You'll find all the new bikes have oversized head tubes now and for whatever reason most are using external lower cups so the swap is just a different crown race. I only know of Giant doing a zero stack lower. Granted it does make it tough if you have an older frame but the beauty is if we get enough requests for 1.125" straight steer tubes we can accommodate. The crown blank after it comes out of the mold has post machining done so it can be an easy addition... except for more SKU's. I am not a fan of more SKU's... since I have to create them. Cheers! TR
Now go ride your bike!
  • 2 2
 A real engineer shows up and everyone shuts their mouth...lolzzz
  • 2 1
 ^^^^^btw you guys are awesome....your slogan should be "killing desk trolls since 2013"
  • 1 1
 Still alive, not a troll anyway and certainly never claimed to be an engineer. Just don't see the point of a tapered steerer outside of a single crown application. Thanks for chiming in though DVO guy, good to know you've got some flexibility in the design! I'm still just amazed you've seen steerers ripped out or broken off of dual crown DH forks. I have never heard of such a thing! I've seen arches fail and axles snap, but never a steerer on a dual crown. I guess everything gets broken at some point!
  • 2 1
 First one I saw was in 1995. A guy by the name of Todd Tanner (Ex Pro for Specialized), hit a hay bail at the finish line... left the fork there but stopped the clock with the rest of the bike. Everything now a days needs to be stronger than back then of course but with the bikes now this area needed to be addressed. Aren't you glad it didn't go the way of moto's? 1" steel threaded.

I've been involved in suspension designs since day one so if it's happened I've seen it. Truthfully since I design suspension I'd rather see the head tube get ripped off. As we've done for years, we've chased the break. Tapered steer tube, not my break to chase. Cheers!
  • 1 0
 Oh, what Funn it is to ride and shred the downhill traaills....
  • 1 0
 Fizik saddles are so beautiful- unfortunately also very expensive !
  • 1 1
 I am hoping they are going to offer the Diamond in a 29" model. Any rumors of this?
  • 2 0
 ...a 29er is in the works too. What do you guys/gals see as the minimum/maximum travel you'd need for such a fork?
  • 2 0
 That's Awesome news! Are you using the Diamond as the platform for it, or something completely different?
I think between 140-160 would be the most widely accepted for riders that would be looking at a fork of this caliber. If it was available in this full range, and easily adjustable via a spacer or other method that would not diminish peroformance in any way, then that would be most ideal. If thats too much range to be feasable, then 140-150. If one travel option only, then I'm kind of torn between 140 or 150, but think 150 would be the safer option from your perspective. If two models with different travel, probably a 120, and a 150 would play well with the largest number of bikes that would benefit from such a fork.
Sooo to answer your question...lol
Minimum: 100/120
Maximum: 150
One option only: Either 140 or 150
  • 2 1
 Yeah, if I could get a 120 - 140mm Diamond 29er fork I'd be a very happy camper!
  • 2 1
 The 9er version is based "loosely" around the Diamond. ...I have a 20mm travel window of adjustment to design with... so 120-140 works, so does 130-150 and 140-160mm. I have all 3 versions modeled upWink . I've been looking at all the 29er's out there and I have two myself (one is a hardtail so it doesn't really count) and it seems that the majority of bikes are tapping out at 140mm. I believe it's a Specialized and a Pivot that have a 150mm 9er model. Does anyone know of other bike brands going 150mm travel on their 9er line? Thanks guys for the feedback. Back to dreaming up cool stuff!
  • 2 1
 130-150mm would be perfect. There are already many different options in the 120-140mm market. For aggressive riding, a 150mm fork feels amazing on pretty much any of the 29" bikes that come stock with a 140mm fork. Only really good option is the Pike.
  • 2 0
 Well you guys have some Cool dreams, so keep dreaming!

I think most bike brands were designing around a 140mm fork as a base because that was the best and the most of what was available for a long travel 29er fork. Isnt the new 29er Pike up to 150mm? I think there is a new Niner that runs a150mm.
The Santa Cruz Tallboy LT/LTC (my bike) was designed to utilize either a 140or 150, but comes stock with 140.
A Range of 120-140 would probably cover the most number of bikes available right now, but that range would limit the useable adjustability of the bikes it went onto, and stopping at 140 might limit what bikes it can go on in the future. Especially considering the intended terrain and style of who might be into such a fork. Cedric would probably love the ability to go up to 160mm huh? ;-) If I remember correctly he used the Tallboy LTC last year in one of the enduro races. Hope he is healing up fast so he can continue working with you guys on product development!
I would go with the first model being 130-150 for being more conservative, or 140-160 for being more future proof
If a shorter travel model was being looked at later on then 100-120 would be perfect.
  • 1 0
 Meh. I'm awaiting a 27.5 specific seat before I take the plunge.
  • 1 0
 "My life is the Trail" graphic is great! Nice double track!
  • 1 0
 THAR SHE BLOWZ
  • 1 2
 PEDALS !!
  • 7 0
 Do you really love pedals, or are you just saying it because you saw it?
  • 1 0
 I yelled out pedals too :/
  • 1 0
 I see nothing but pedals hahah
  • 2 5
 Please DVO, show us a prototype inverted " Enduro" Fork
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