First Look: Evil Bikes 'The Following'

Jan 4, 2015
by Mike Kazimer  


Evil's New Short Travel 29er

Evil Bikes have officially entered the short and slack 29er category with their new bike, The Following. A full carbon affair that uses a refined version of the DELTA link suspension found on Evil's 26” Uprising, The Following has 120mm of rear travel and is designed around a 120 or 130mm fork. Even with the shorter of the two fork travel options, the bike still sports a 67.2° head angle and a 12.8 inch bottom bracket height in the low geometry setting. Combine those numbers with a 430mm chainstay length, and on paper The Following looks like it should be a ripping good time out on the trail. Two different complete versions will be offered, with the X1 version coming in somewhere between $4500 and $4800, and the XO1 version retailing for between $6400 and $6600 USD. Evil will be releasing the final details, including the full build specs, in the next few days.

I met up with Kevin Walsh, Evil's owner, to find out what inspired the creation of a new 29er. After all, Evil doesn't have a 27.5” bike in their lineup (at least not yet, but there are rumblings of more new bikes in the near future). As it turns out, the Following has been in the works since late 2012, when Dave Weagle, the brains behind the bike's DELTA suspension layout, told Walsh that he had ideas about how to create a big-wheeled bike that could corner like the Uprising, but with more stability. Skeptical but intrigued, Walsh agreed to move forward with the project, and before long the first prototypes were on their way.

Details

• 29" wheels
• 120mm rear travel
• DELTA System suspension
• Two position adjustable geometry
• 430-432mm chainstay length
• 67.2° head angle with 120mm fork
• Frame weight from 6lb (2.8 kg)
• Claimed complete weight, size medium: 27lb (12.25 kg)
• Colors: Don't Shoot Me Orange, Black
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL
• Price: X1: $4500 - $4800, XO1 $6400 - $6600
www.evil-bikes.com
When the prototypes arrived, Walsh fully expected to ride the bike a few times and then hand it over to someone more passionate about 29ers than himself. Team rider Luke Strobel had similar thoughts, but after spending time with the new bike both came away impressed, and surprised by its capabilities. According to Walsh, The Following is a bike that can accommodate a wide range of riding styles thanks to its adjustable geometry and the ability to build it up as light or as burly as a rider desires, while still retaining the fun factor that Evil touts as being part of their DNA.

Evil The Following
Evil Bikes The Following
  Low standover, room for wide tires, and internal cable routing keep The Following in tune with the latest must-haves in frame design.

Frame Design

It's no secret that a number of Evil's previous frames had quality control issues, but the company recently changed factories, moving their manufacturing to VIP, an operation known for producing some of the the highest quality frames on the market. Hopefully this signals the start of a new era for the Evil, and they can shed the issues that held them back in the past.

The Following uses the same DELTA (Dave's Extra Legitimate Travel Apparatus) system as the Uprising, but with a few changes to its location and the mounting hardware. Before diving into those changes, it's worth explaining what the DELTA system actually is. It's a single pivot configuration at heart, but by using short links between the swingarm and the shock a dual leverage rate curve can be achieved. The intention is to have a supple beginning stroke that ramps up for improved pedalling, with a more linear feel later in the travel before ramping up to avoid harsh bottom outs. Regarding the aforementioned changes, the shock is no longer positioned underneath an interrupted seat tube, with the rear swingarm now secured to the seat tube using a 15mm thru axle. Dual row angular contact bearings are used throughout, and only two different sized bearings are used to simplify maintenance.

Evil The Following geo
Evil Bikes The Following
  The DELTA sytem has been simplified over previous versions, and now includes a built in sag indicator (lower right).

Other frame details include the ability to run wider tires, and even a tire as wide as Schwalbe's 2.3" Hans Dampf will fit with 10mm of room to spare on each side. Internal routing is in place for dropper post and derailleur housing, and there's also the option to run a front derailleur for riders still not ready to commit to a 1x drivetrain. Although the advent of 12x148mm rear spacing is on the horizon, Evil chose to stick with 12x142 spacing for The Following, citing the current lack of hub options for the evolving standard.



Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesDone properly, short travel and slack angled 29ers can be absolute riots to ride. Kona's Process 111 and Banshee's Phantom both left us impressed with their on-trail performance when we tested them, which is why we'll be putting the miles in on The Following in the near future to see how it stacks up against the other contenders in this category. - Mike Kazimer



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251 Comments

  • 79 4
 Digging that rear linkage.
  • 31 6
 i dont know what it is about the evil linkage that fascinates me, its just damn sick!
  • 30 157
flag bookieboy100 (Jan 3, 2015 at 22:39) (Below Threshold)
 "Is that a 29er? Uhhh"

Pick a wheel size and be a dick about it.

-How to be a mountain biker
  • 13 1
 It's where the magic happens.
  • 33 5
 Not until you have to Change something on your shock that's a pain
  • 20 2
 Holy short chainstays batman
  • 15 23
flag scvkurt03 (Jan 3, 2015 at 23:28) (Below Threshold)
 Spesh E29 and Lenz Lunchbox are shorter. The following is in a totally different category, though.
  • 25 2
 So i got the Bike magazine Bible of Bike Tests issue in the mail today. The testing was in Bend, OR this year, and pretty much all the Bike mag testers picked this bike as their favorite. Coincidentally, pinkbike posted a story on Bend today and a first look at this bike (with no test riding yet). hmm...
  • 16 1
 COINCIDENCE!?!?! I THINK NOT!!!! time to go get me a issue of Bike mag.
  • 26 42
flag jaame (Jan 4, 2015 at 0:26) (Below Threshold)
 I bet it's an awesomely fun bike... for about three weeks when it breaks
  • 33 6
 Got that right I've had a frame break and a swing arm which I've been waiting months for a replacement (the swing arm) Evil don't seem to give a shit not even an ETA.
  • 16 2
 I was going to get the uprising frame but after chatting to a few people who had breakages on the undead dh bike it put me off buying one, shame as its a good looking bike
  • 17 1
 Because evil is a relatively small company that was slowly dying out, but they seem to be coming back.. Still no excuse for such long waits and customer service
  • 10 90
flag bikecustomizer (Jan 4, 2015 at 3:48) (Below Threshold)
 What do you want from the company called itself "EVIL", besides the real evil ???
Men, it is written: EVIL. So stop to complain or argue: you have your eyes when buying.

Someone really "big minded" took that word for the name of the company (nevermind it is bikes or whatever).
Seems they thought kinda: "oh, these teen-agers love so much everything connected with...evil ! let's call our company such and we will got huge sales!"
  • 10 98
flag bikecustomizer (Jan 4, 2015 at 3:51) (Below Threshold)
 I can't understand at all that love for devil-like or devil-reminder logos or details...horns, hoofs, spear ended tails, devil horns gesture, etc.
Couldn't we live just without it at all?!?
Without all that evil-loving or saint-loving mania ?!
Why ever the component is really good it always must called DIABOLOUS or SAINT ?

I have Diabolous cranks with Saint pedals. I dont like the names.
But it is the only thing that keeps my riding in the balance between the HEAVEN AND HELL! LOL Smile )))


But I would not buy anything from the company called itself: "HORNS & HOOFS bike components". Smile ))
  • 52 2
 bikecustomizer have you taken your medication today? Teen-agers can't afford this bike
  • 5 73
flag bikecustomizer (Jan 4, 2015 at 4:38) (Below Threshold)
 Murph86
Do you have PARENTS ?

How would you explain all that evil names of components and brands ?
  • 5 2
 Chappers..with a name Evil, what would you expect? Good things? I know its just a name...or is it.
  • 4 43
flag bikecustomizer (Jan 4, 2015 at 5:06) (Below Threshold)
 That evil grows, look at the points to my comments... LOL Smile
  • 11 3
 I jizzed my pants when I saw the bike on the front page
  • 15 105
flag lumpys (Jan 4, 2015 at 7:46) (Below Threshold)
 I puked in my mouth when i saw this bike on front page. Hey Pink Bike I'm getting tired of this shit! Keep it pointed down hill. Pink bike please restructure this site into a lycra 29ner half and a dh, freeride half.
  • 41 8
 U still riding kids wheels and driving uphill?? Bummer
  • 5 0
 Well my parents both ride and they run minions on their dh bikes....so the devilish things must not really matter to them? Smile
  • 14 0
 We all know that Lamborghini had great success marketing its Diablo to teenagers, haha! Hey, why do sports teams have to name themselves after vicious animals anyway? What's wrong with rooting for the Kittens or the Bunny Rabbits?
  • 5 1
 This bike is so evil after riding it you'll need an exorcism!
  • 24 1
 Or a good carbon fiber repair shop.
  • 3 0
 Have any of the carbon evils had issues?
  • 5 1
 I have first hand experience of two craked frames one mine and if you check the forums there are plenty of issues with swingarms
  • 11 0
 Its not a surprise Bike mag picked a short travel 29er as the favorite while testing in Bend. The place is awesome with a massive trail network, but pretty flat and tame. A hard tail works perfect there.
  • 3 5
 Haha love it. 63 people ride 29ers
  • 6 2
 Is Bend really flat?
  • 3 1
 still nope because delta link wishbones. I and a ton of other broke the wishbones numerous times. Definite pass on this. It sucks going to a bike park and blowing up your links on your first run. Also sucks when the company only sends you one set at a time...
  • 3 0
 i am wondering why make the suspension so complicated ......and how to clean it....
  • 4 1
 Delta is a great system when it works. Unfortunately it's fragile. Funny how they always blame the factory for poor QC. I bet the same happens with the new supplier. Pacific? Shit. Hodaka? Shit... VIP?
  • 4 0
 I have been running an Uprising for a year now. The bike is simply awesome. I love it. I had a rear arm cracking experience and got it replaced rapidly. No complain to the customer service or any kind.
  • 2 0
 i was always wondered about their suspension. such a short pivot for a long lever. thats a lot of stress placed on the small moving parts.
  • 4 0
 @fpmd - When our test bike arrives, rest assured it will be ridden on trails much steeper and more technical than what you'd find in Bend. And @jaame, only time will tell, but VIP's reputation as a carbon manufacturer is one of the best around.
  • 2 0
 so bend is not technical. Dang. I had hoped for better since it is on my potential grad school list.
How about Ashland?
  • 2 0
 @taletotell - Ashland's not that technical either, but the trails there are incredibly high speed, and easily shuttleable.
  • 2 0
 @mike re VIP reputation shame the same can't be said of Evil customer service.
  • 2 0
 Good news. Technical is fun, but if I can't have that I'll take fast. I just don't want a flat place. That would be my idea of where bad folks go when they die.
  • 4 0
 @chappers998 @mark3

I agree with both of you in that Evil had Quality Control issues with their Evil Undead carbon frames. HOWEVER, as a previous owner of an Evil Undead and having dealt with Evil and Kevin directly, I can say that their current customer service is outstanding. I had an issue with some bearings in the linkage, the bike still worked fine, but Kevin over-nighted a whole kit of new enduro bearings as well as extra derailleur hangars that I didnt even ask for. He has also taken time to answer alot of trivial questions I had about the undead, name one bike manufacture CEO you can say that about? I also had an issue with a very small part of the paint cracking/chipping on my rear triangle, since one part of the rear triangle flexed at a different rate than the rest, it was purely aesthetics and no compromise to the safety of the bike, but Kevin sent me a brand new rear triangle, free of charge. I bought the bike second hand and it was out of warranty when all these issues occurred. I assure you I am no-one special, so dont think I am getting some type of special treatment. I never had spoken to Kevin prior to owning the Undead.

Don't skip buying this bike because of their previous issues, they seem to handle customer issues much differently than at that time a few years ago, also take into account that the evil undead was their very first foray into the carbon bike world and they have since realized a problem and changed suppliers/manufactures. However, these are only my experiences, I just didn't think it was entirely fair to judge Evil, or any other person or company for that matter, on something that happened in the past especially when it appears that it is not true anymore.
  • 4 0
 Please explain to me why I'm waiting for a replacement swing arm after nearly 6 months and have been told by Evil Europe that there is now no record of my claim despite photos and an email agreeing to replace the arm which they were investigating some 3-4 weeks ago.
To add insult to injury there is still no ETA on the SA and I was offered one of the new batch of arms that are all carbon for an extra 400 euros a special price for existing customers apparently. I just want the warranty swing arm sent nothing more!!!!!!!!
Sorry but Evil customer service in Europe is a joke.
BTW this is all since they changed factories.
I'll never buy Evil again after this I'm done, I've just built my younger sons (12&13yrs) DH bikes even though they liked my Evils (Uprising and Undead) but my money went on Ali Demo frames. I'm not the only one Evils are getting a terrible rep with everybody I know. They put me off Carbon bikes altogether although I was convinced by the UK Devinci importer that the Carbon Troy was a good buy they have given me a lifetime warranty on the frame. As me they feel that Evil customer service and QC in Europe is lacking......... badly.
  • 1 1
 @chappers998
Could you show where the frame is cracked ?
And what does it mean "Ali Demo frames" ?
I'm just interested to see or try one.
  • 1 0
 Hodaka has a solid rep too. I think it's the design, not the manufacture, that has problems. My mate's undead, which was a warranty replacement for a broken revolt, but one which he had to pay for, has had a lot of problems with the dog bones. Also it's cracked all around the bolts that hold the metal bit onto the front of the swingarm. He was told by evil not to worry about it because there is aluminium inside the carbon. It's ridiculous. They are beautiful frames to look at though. THat's why he kept the warranty frame instead of selling it when it was new. Having seen all the problems he's had I would only ride an evil frame if they gave it to me for free. If I'm spending my own money I want something solid.
  • 2 0
 " Also it's cracked all around the bolts that hold the metal bit onto the front of the swingarm"
Bingo! That what I guessed just from the first look at foto of the bike.

This is carbon, thus there should be less bolts qty or larger space=more carbon between them or smaller heads. The best, I think, the more space inbetween (but heavier).

"He was told by evil not to worry about it because there is aluminium inside the carbon. It's ridiculous"
No comments. Big *facepalm*.
  • 2 0
 Yea, i cant really comment on Evil Europe. But I can say this, I have a feeling that the way Cube bikes is with US customers is the same way that Evil bikes is with European customers, they have a very small presence in foreign countries since their primary customer base is in their home country and thus we have the issues that you and I have/had. I had the same exact issue with my Cube Stereo hpc 27.5, I needed some replacement parts, I emailed the company MULTIPLE times over the course of 6 months and I never received a single reply. It is for that reason alone, I will NEVER buy another Cube bike (or any product where the company is in a foreign country and has no US presence).

These are factors everyone should SERIOUSLY take into account when purchasing anything from a foreign country with no home country support, ESPECIALLY when your purchase is in excess of thousands of dollars.
  • 1 0
 @bikecustomizer
the actual frame was cracked where the top tube met the headtube and along the join with the down tube, I had a new front triangle sent with swingarm supposedly to follow.
The swing arm is cracked in the usual place it where the linkage mounts to the swing arm. Ali as in Aluminium Alloy.
  • 1 0
 @prestonDH we have many US boutique brands in the UK IE Knolly, Transition, Yeti (who incidentally have the same Uk distributor as Evil) with no issues regarding service. I don't think Cube have a much better rep in Europe TBH,
  • 1 0
 @chappers998
Oh, dear....cracked front triangle...facepalm. That what I did not expected...
Such things must not happen for such a big money. For any money!

Good luck to you, man.

This company deffinitely MUST to do something to correct that design.
  • 1 0
 I received a replacement front triangle in a few weeks it's the swing arm that is an issue. TBH the cracked triangle was a result of a fairly minor off.
  • 1 0
 @chappers998 That was just my speculation, and seeing that I had a similar issue, but with reverse logistics, I assumed it was a location thing, but maybe not? I know the demand of Evil bikes, far exceeds the support/employees they have working at that company, atleast that was the case about a year ago. Best of luck to you and I hope you get a bike up and running sooner rather than later.
  • 1 0
 @prestonDH Yea I have got a Devinci Troy and Specialized Demo both running fine, Still doesn't negate the wait for Evil.
  • 1 0
 The link , Looks Nice, but complicated, and maybe Heavy?, is it much better and different from simpler links?
Don't get me wrong the bike looks amazing , but I have a love hate for that link.
I have read the bike company is not that reliable, but their bikes are hard to resist. they look awesome.
Maybe I should Go for the Jefssy?, Fuel Ex ,or the spesh stumpy?
  • 1 0
 @rngd30: your looking for a reliability update now that its 2 years later...no major issues with this bike. Huge evil forum here on pb to prove that.
An updated following due out in few months.(probably boosted, but hopefully super boost)
  • 44 5
 I am sure it will gain a Following
  • 49 3
 idk, there might be an Uprising
  • 33 4
 Are we talking about the Undead
  • 5 33
flag rickaybobbay (Jan 3, 2015 at 23:07) (Below Threshold)
 eeeeeeeeeh... not quite... but i still like it Big Grin

i couldn't come up with a good one for undead sooo GOOD TRY!
  • 16 3
 They must obey the will of the Sovereign.
  • 43 2
 I'm revolted by these puns.
  • 11 3
 Evil people!
  • 11 2
 There is always a whole Faction of PB users coming as soon as it comes to make Evil puns.
  • 1 3
 Joe Carrols frame of choice
  • 9 1
 bored at work, but i think The Following will lead a Faction of the Undead in an Uprising, to Revolt against the Sect of status quo, restoring their Imperial DOC, Evil Bikes, to be Sovereign over all others.
  • 1 1
 @diego-b i see what you did there Big Grin
  • 34 1
 If I was going to ride a 29er this would be the one....if.
  • 16 0
 That's what Walsh and Strobel said too. Don't knock it till you rock it bro. I thought the same thing and my favorite bike right now is a 29er.
  • 8 0
 i saw this bike for the first time a couple months ago, with strobel riding on it, on dirt jumps!
  • 5 0
 Strobel took first place on this bike at our annual Halloween downhill pumptrack race
  • 27 2
 Thats one good looking 29er
  • 14 2
 i'd ride the shit out of that bike.
  • 26 11
 29ers are Evil.
  • 8 1
 I don't know how to respond to that...
  • 4 24
flag vhdh666 (Jan 4, 2015 at 1:51) (Below Threshold)
 yes indeed it LOOKS good
but: the reach is 20-25mm too short,
the seat tube angle is too slack for efficient climbing,
the suspension has got only one pivot
  • 6 1
 Linkage driven single pivot.. Different things, do your research before basing oppions purely off of what you see. Evil's are among the best riding bikes out there, especially the undead DH model
  • 8 3
 Reminds me a bit of the Polygon Collosus N9 which everyone seemed to hate the looks of...
  • 19 1
 Love the stuff they make but dealing with them is hair pulling out status. .. they're slllloooow on email, and their (how we doing?) auto reply for every single email sent is annoying, they hardly ever answer the phone or call back...the few times I ordered from them, it took much longer to get the product than they said it would... shoot, it was an effort just getting a price list of the products they sell.. i would love to sell more of them but I think I scare customers away because a huge question mark pops up above my head when they ask simple questions like, how much and when can I get one?
  • 12 1
 You're right, their customer service is a joke! I'm seriously loving this new bike, but I'd have to go for a Banshee Phantom or something just because I know I wouldn't want to have to deal with Evil's poor customer service if anything were to go wrong. Fair enough, they are a small company, but plenty of other small companies such as Stanton Bikes have fantastic customer service!
  • 5 2
 yup --- that's the main thing killin' the MoJo... no kiddin on the auto reply email system they have ---- that's just flat out silly --- if you email them, you get the same "how are we doing" auto reply email for each and every email sent --- they gotta turn that feature off. and yeah, I get the whole small company but, I have found that most small companies I deal with, customer service kicks butt.. I'll get the info I need in a flash. I heard QC for Evil was pretty bad for a while there --- I have a bud who has one with issues, an old hardtail frame (forget the model name).. the headtube was spec'd slightly larger than it should be so you can drop headset in by hand, pull them out by hand too (err, ahh... that's a bad thing, right?). I know this issue dates back before the current Evil peeps so, I won't knock em over that. and again, no kidding about the dealer prices... late in 2013 I asked them for 2014 prices... time and time again they kept saying they'll send it soon, they just had to fine tune a few things. OK, it's not like Fox where they have hundreds of small parts and whatnot... how many products do they have that it takes several weeks to get a price list. Come to think of it, I don't think I ever saw that price list for 2014... The Undead was really the only frame that people would ask me about... I would usually end up selling them a V-10 instead because getting one was a sure thing... getting an Undead always seems like hit-or-miss.. it might be a few weeks, it might be a few months till ya see it.
  • 1 0
 If there's one thing I hate more than anything else it's an auto reply to an important email. They seriously need to get their act together. They don't sound like a brand I'll be wanting to have to deal with from the shop anytime soon.
  • 3 0
 I have always heard from a real person within 24 hours of sending Evil an email. And I appreciate a company that wants feedback on the job they are performing.

I also have dealt with them enough to know that they are selling bikes faster than they are getting them in. That may be, in part, due to the West Coast Port strikes that have been going on since January of last year.

Could Evil improve? Yes, but there isn't a company in the world that couldn't use some improvement, somewhere. I bet even the great PedalShopLLC has pissed off someone with the way they handled a situation. And the probably will again, simply because there everything anyone does will piss off or annoy somebody.

No person or company is perfect, so why should we lynch-mob Evil for having different imperfections from Santa Cruz, Trek, Specialized, Transition, Banshee or any other imperfect company?

I think I will wait to see if Evil can grow and become a true competitor in the industry before I write them off. Besides, the more competition there is among manufacturers, the more chances for a customer to win.
  • 4 0
 like I said --- love the stuff they make....

and hell yeah --- you kiddin'? .. I'm sure there's peeps I pissed off before.. I dropped the ball once, customer came in looking to pick up his bike, I went looking for it... some time while it was in for repairs, it got stolen from the make-shift parking lot I had in the back of the shop. during the peak season, I had zero space for tune ups, so I would park them out back where the fenced in area seemed pretty secure. ... someone lifted it during the day while nobody was looking. man, that guy was pissed... it was a typical entry level MTB so I wasn't going to go through the whole police report dealeo... I just offered him a real bike at cost and he was fine with that. ended up being a long standing customer until he moved to UT. been many a time I forgot to include something in a bulk order I shipped out.. been times I confused one person for another. Phuck yeah, I can be quite forgetful to the point, I wonder if I'll get Alzheimer's like my grandmother did and you can bet your darn tootin', those 13 year old kids of mine, all three of them will drive me to drink sometimes. But yeah, been selling bikes since 1991, I'm sure I ticked off a few peeps along the way... sure as heck it ain't cause I set up an automated reply that runs 24/7/365. it's pretty well known Evil's tough to get a hold of.. this isn't a new thing, it's always been like that, even the old Evil was impossible to reach. Even the people at Evil have told me they know they've got a problem. but anyway, like I said --- love the stuff they make. this aint no witch hunt... just sayin'
  • 20 0
 Dave's Extra Legitimate Travel Apparatus LOL
  • 3 0
 I just wonder if that means a lot about the guy's ego, or about his sense of irony...
  • 4 0
 I'm sure it's irony
  • 2 0
 Notice how clean the bike is? No stupid acronyms on every tube calling out every single technology. This is their way of making fun of FSR, Full Floater, OSBB, BB30, et all.
  • 18 0
 It needs rubber ferules in the frame in the internal cable routing, and that is defo not good tyre clearance. Come to Britain, I'll show you!
  • 10 0
 @m9lee

Just what I was thinking - seeing carbon fibre dust on the cable coming out of the head tube tells you the internal routing needs some work I.e. grommet or nylon carrier to stop the outers sawing away at the frame Wink
  • 13 0
 I wouldn't worry about the outers sawing the frame away if it's anything like mine it will crack way before that becomes and issue.
  • 6 0
 "Room for wide tires" Ha ha ha ha......
  • 1 1
 No need for those ridiculous wide tyres on a 29er!!
  • 13 1
 I never considered buying a 29er until now.
  • 8 0
 "Although the advent of 12x148mm rear spacing is on the horizon, Evil chose to stick with 12x142 spacing for The Following, citing the current lack of hub options for the evolving standard." Stop with the new hub size standard for Christ's sake!
  • 11 0
 Evil, you magnificent bastards - you've made me want a 29'er. Well done.
  • 10 1
 I honestly did not see this coming from evil, but holy crap is that a badass 29er
  • 10 1
 Start making room in the garage...
  • 5 0
 Ah, crud. As though I didn't ALREADY have enough trouble picking my next bike...-that-I'll-never-actually-get-to-buy.

Sweet machine, though. I've been a 29 supporter since the beginning, even though I ride 26 right now, and whether or not I ever get my hands on a plastic fantastic like this one, I love seeing the industry start to put some real development weight behind this segment - the more popular this kind of bike gets, the more cheap + solid options will become available, and the more refined those options will be.
  • 5 0
 Exciting times for sure, such a fun 'category' of bike... Space for a water bottle too, awesome
  • 5 0
 I like Evil bikes so much. It's just a pity that the reliability issues always surface. Back then, after the Revolt, they claimed that everything is going to be alright. If you look at the Evil Owners Club thread there is still a considerable amount of people with frame issues complaining about poor support, waiting for months. Now we get this new factory bla bla and all you can do is hope. I'll have to wait about a year or so and see other users' experience if it is wise to buy. I really hope Kevin and the team get their stuff together because these are awesome bikes.
  • 10 1
 This is devilishly sexy.
  • 8 0
 I have opinions about this product.
  • 7 0
 Wait, you call that room for wide tires?
  • 3 0
 YES i want this bike.............in BLACK. I was bitten by the 29er bug in December and am now another lost dirtbag in search of the right 29er. I was forced by mechanicals in Jamaica to ride my rental bike a Slingshot 29er. Until now I have refused to ride one but after a week on it I am hopelessly converted to the larger wheel. After returning to Toronto I hopped on my Reaper and started laughing at how tiny it felt.......................just like a kids bike.
  • 6 0
 Is it me or does it seem like the industry is nonchalant about stating a bike costs $6400?
  • 4 1
 I'm taking a little different perspective from most people on here. As I understand it, Evil is a company that went through unbelievable hardship with their Revolt supplier, to the point that most people would have given up. Somehow they persevered to make a new bike with a new supplier, honoured all their warranty claims (as quickly as they could considering the circumstances), learned a lot, and managed to stick around. It looks to me like a good story about an underdog who does the right thing in the face of adversity.

Never ridden a DELTA bike before, but if it rides as well as the acronym is cheeky, then this is pretty much my dream bike.
  • 3 1
 @mikekazimer

Is the comment about problematic carbon frames correct? I always thought the quality control issues mainly stemmed from the aluminium evil revolt? Worth checking as a big reason evil moved to carbon was improved quality control and the reviews of carbon frames such as the uprising have been excellent on the whole.
  • 2 0
 Bought an undead last May last yr. Amazing service, dealt with Kevin himself. Purchased in the afternoon arrived from states to whistler next day. Every time I email it's a quick easy response. Definitely purchasing a 27.5 frame when it becomes available. Rides perfectly and looks like heaven.
  • 6 3
 All I took away from this article is another f#&@king axle standard. Really? Like... REALLY!?! Please explain to me me the clear bennefit of a 148 spacing versus 142 or a 150.
  • 2 0
 Yeah.my thoughts exactly.
  • 2 0
 "Adding 3mm of extra chainline width to this area is a mile to these engineers. Just simply moving the chainline out could instantly shorten chainstays by 5-10mm, given the same tire and chainring sizes. Conversely, it could keep chainstay length the same, and allow clearance for much wider tires."
Yet the Following has the shortest 29er CS, with 142mm axle.
  • 3 0
 Beauty of a bike! l would NEVER BUY AN EVIL! They major suck at warranty! Dropping $3k+ on a frame should get you some kind of customer service, nope! Keep your old bike if you get one, you will need a back up.
  • 2 0
 I enjoy my sb95 and believe this is the evolution of that bike. Enough so that it may warrant a new bike. Not a big carbon fan, but if I'm gonna do it I would like to know if swing arms and triangles would be available if one were to break. I have heard and seen plenty of carbon breaks and I think if it's the wave of the future then replacements need to be readily available. Cool bike!
  • 2 0
 I'm wondering how much(if any) 'brake jack' and 'pedal feedback' this single pivot bike has? I've been riding DW-Link bikes for years now and this is the first single pivot bike I would consider buying mostly because Dave Weagle designed it...oh..and it looks SICK! I just wonder if this single pivot configurations works out all the negatives associated with past SP designs.
  • 6 4
 It looks good but I'd like more tire clearance (cover that 2.35 schwalbe in mud and that frame becomes clogged in seconds). I'd run the headangle even slacker. I'd like to try a 622mm with a 65-66º headangle.
  • 6 2
 For a 29er with dedicated fork offset? What would you run for 26" 160 bike? 62deg? Big Grin But it is short compared to how tall it is. at least 20mm more in Reach please...
  • 3 1
 For a 160mm 559mm bike I'd run 62-63º headangle like that the bike would feel like my current DH bike. I prefer my bikes slack and with a wheelbase of at least 1200mm. If I ever got a trail bike it'd be with similar geometry to your Cannonrail Jeromium Wink
  • 2 1
 Think once you start getting past 67º on 29" inch wheels you will start running into steering issue (like really slow sluggish). Think reason you see Niner WFO, Enduro 29er and others right around 67º and not slacker.
  • 4 0
 I personally like snappy steering, being able to change lines easily instead of plowing through sht. I run long top tubes, then I use slightly longer stem and wide bars compensate for eventual lack in stability so... while German Alpine Warriors (like Cubes, Radons, Canyons used to be) were straight dumb, with 68 head angles for 160 bikes, that slack&low boat was never my thing and I do saw people in bike parks going full gas through rockgardens on their "Summumy, Barely" bikes yet they were really slow in corners with tons of oversteer. Slack bike needs to be ridden according to speeds it is meant to cope with, that is on the edge - or it becomes a freight train. I cannot imagine pinning it all day on every DH run in the bike park, and if you are not pinning a sub 64 bike, you are... slack? It always make me giggle when people say that 29ers change directions poorly, have slow response, yet they run slackest angles possible on their 26ers - 26" playful size, ahahah good one.
  • 1 0
 My mission rode like a 29er. I found out when I tried a trail 29er for the first time. It changed my view of wheel sizes.
  • 1 1
 my diamondback mason 29er has a 65.5 degree head angle and it feels pretty awesome.. well except on the technical climbs
  • 3 0
 www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTOL6C4-7ZQ&sns=em

2015 Bible of Bike Tests evil the folowing
  • 1 0
 @in2falling, it's all about dat trail--fork trail that is. i think PB wrote an article 'splaining it... in a nutshell, larger wheel diameter, slacker head angle, and/or shorter fork offset (aka "rake") all increase trail and contribute to the front end feeling sluggish or floppy.

back in the day, the first 29er suspension forks were essentially modified 26"-wheeled forks with shorter offsets (40mm or less) optimized for 26" wheels. the only way designers could reign in the trail numbers to prevent excessive sluggishness and wheel flop was to steepen the 29er's head angles. which created at least a decade of 29ers steeped in a tradition of XC/roadie geometry, that generally handled like poo on anything technical (9er can polish that turd all day long to keep trying to sell bikes based on oldschool geo, but long chainstays and steep head angles for anything other than an XC bike should die already).

true or not, gary fisher has been credited for pushing fork makers to cast 29er fork lowers with longer 51mm offsets to reduce trail so 29ers could be designed with slacker head angles without having excessive sluggishness or wheel flop.

there's probably a maximum offset number that's feasible for 29er forks, but i suppose fork makers could further increase 29er offset beyond 51mm to a point, to keep 29er trail figures consistent with the current crop of slack angled 26" and 27.5" all mountain bikes.
  • 1 0
 One of best things thing that makes a 29er alive is a really short stem - 40 or even 35mm. At the same time after many attempts to like it I claim Shennenigans on sub 50mm stems for 26" mountain bikes ridden in mountains. I think I have allergy for trends... slack&low, short&wide... ughh...
  • 2 0
 I like to run slack headangles to have a) longer wheelbase and b) it reduces the chance of going over the bars along with being more stable at speed. I do agree that if you aren't riding fast then slacker isn't always better. I use a super short stem to compensate for the slack headangle at low speed eg my 62º Status with front 584mm wheel has a 17mm stem on my shiver. If I had a say Enduro29 I'd like to run it with a -2º headset and a 10mm mondraker stem and possibly a 584mm rear wheel to slacken it out even more. But I love riding steep terrain so for me it makes sense.
  • 1 0
 sounds reasonable
  • 3 0
 Is your taste in stem length connected to your experience with Santa Cruz? I hear they run short.
My trek remedy is a size longer than I normally use because they run short. I like it better with a short stem.
I knew a trials motorcyclist who like longstems too. He said it was about leverage. That guy could climb any thing.
  • 1 0
 I refuse to go deeper into it but the shorter the stem the less stable the bike is at lower speeds, with certain input form the bars, which in some cases is good, because some designs are plenty stable (like most 29ers and most bikes with HA under 66) and they handle like drunken donkeys on climbs. it does not have as big impact on ride at high speeds, because there we turn with hips and counter steer while bike carries sht loads of stability or instability. Bike geometry does not act only in 2 dimensions, so actual reach (BB-grips) is not the whole story, even though it is a longer one than reach alone and stem length alone, because we turn bars to balance our selves all the time. Both our input and feedback from the bike will be different on 50 and 70mm stem, at 35mm to 70mm it will be worlds apart. I rode 760mm bars with 130mm stem for a few rides - that was interesting! When I went to dirt jumps and tried to whip, bike was turning much more than with shorter stem, as If I was acting with bigger leverage on it. Slight turn of bars in the air and the bike goes side ways weeee!
  • 1 0
 Good to know.
I originally went for a shorter stem for the oversimplified reason of I was afraid of going over frontwards off of drops, and believed what my friends said about how a shorter stem lets you get back further. Since then I have seen it is more complicated than that. (I realized there was more to it when the trials guy I was riding with said long stems made for more leverage, getting the front up more easily and then I looked at a trials bike. Suddenly geometry seemed like a complicated sort of thing.)
I have been since figuring out what works for me, and a 60mm stem on a longer bike with a 67-67.5 HA feels really well suited to my style for now. I don't whip much, and I don't get real high off the jumps, but I do pop up easy, like tight turns, high-ish speeds and drops. If I find I like one thing or another more in the future I'll need to make adjustments going forward.
I do like wide bars though. The leverage is undeniably reassuring to me. Plus I have oddly wide shoulders for a gent my size, so I have probably never had wide enough bars before recently.
  • 3 0
 If there is no major suspension problem (too soft or too hard somewhere) then going over the bars or any form of repeatable unbalance is the case of riding technique, not bike... off course some designs like XC racing bikes with high saddles are more likely to get you tossed over the bars, but a good rider can anticipate and adapt to what he is riding on.
  • 1 0
 Love it. Questions about quality and customer service is balancing against lust. It's not currently listed on the Cane Creek product fit guide - hopefully there will be room for a burlier shock. Why do these bikes always come with short head tubes in the XL size? 6'4"+ people never have trouble getting their bar low enough I promise you. Looking forward to learning more!
  • 1 0
 come ride with me when I get mine.... My Uprising is going for sale shortly and I'm building up a Following Smile That being said, the Uprising has been the best bike I've ever ridden or owned thus far in my 20 yrs of mtb and bike swapping.
  • 4 1
 Now Rockshox needs to come out with a RS-1 140mm travel............Then we would have a proper fork for a 29er hooligan bike.
  • 2 0
 I love the look of the RS1 but what would it deliver at 140mm that the Pike doesn't?
  • 3 0
 From what Ive been told by Industry types....stiffness of the fork platform. Pike is OK. Not up to my fav Fox 36x 20mm platform. Actually a 2015 Fox 36 comes in a 29er x 140 now with 51mm trail and a 20mm axle. Never mind.
  • 2 0
 But you're right a RS1 does look damn sexy. But the proprietary hub.......not so sexy.
  • 1 0
 Jean,

Hodaka? The only Hodaka that I know are the Dirtbikes import from a company in Athena Oregon who partnered with, then bought a Japanese motorcycle manufacture in the early 1960's - late 1970's. What are you talking about now? I am curious.

David
  • 1 0
 I picked up my Following two months ago......quite simply, I love the bike , rode a Ripley before, VERY similar , but...more confident going down, as well climbing, easily throw the bike around. Easy to get off the ground . Probably hit 90% of the stuff I do as on my Spartan . 28.4 lb. build , can climb with ease, have a 140 fork on or, so I leave the geo. in high , I think it's right for the fork. The Spartan I think feels like the" fat lady " lately, I tend to grab the Evil more !! Frown , sorry Spartan......
  • 1 0
 All these brutal reviews on evils warranty and frame issues are pretty old
New frame manufacturer and good customer service has been my experience now
Pink bike should change the comments to newest loading at the top so the weak minds that believe these old reviews see current feedback
That said how in the hell did all mtb bikes get so f*cking expensive????
  • 2 1
 What range of travel exactly defines a short travel 29er in this new concept of 'slacked out short travel' bikes. Considering there are no true long travel 29ers the way there are 26 & 27.5.
  • 4 0
 Usually 150 and 160 is long for 29 (are there even 160mm 29er forks?)

Mid is 140ish. Short is 130 and below.
  • 3 0
 Niner WFO, Spesh Enduro, Lenz Lunchbox are the only 150 29ers out there. Yeah, the Pike and Fox 36 are both available in 29/160.

Banshee Phantom (110/67.5), Kona Process (111/6Cool , The Following, and presumably Canfield's entry, the Riot are the only bikes in this sub 68* "short" travel category. I'll bet Canfield comes slack with theirs...probably at least 67*, if not a touch slacker.
  • 3 1
 My snap reaction is to say 100-120... but I don't think that rationale works anymore. I think it's hard to say. I don't know that your question has a definitive answer. In years past the travel number told us what kind of bike we're getting - little number = toothpick bike; big number = plow bike. But I think this category proves that that doesn't work anymore.

Off the top of my head we've got the Banshee, the Kona, this Evil, Yeti's new ASRc, the Ibis Ripley, the Pivot Mach 4, the Camber Evo, maybe the GT Helion and standard Camber. But there's a lot of variation in there. The standard Camber has a head angle of 70 degrees, and has 110mm travel at both ends. But the Ibis has a 70 degree head angle too, special fork offset notwithstanding - I've heard the Ripley called a trail bike in some reviews. It has 120mm travel. On the other end we have this Evil's 67.2. That's just 0.2 of a degree steeper than the new SB5c - and THAT'S with a 140mm fork to its 127 rear end, AND sixfifties.
  • 11 1
 I think we're witnessing a battle of our learned expectations vs. our new reality: that neither travel nor wheel size can reliably predict how a bike will ride anymore, or its intended use. Geometry makes the machine. You'd have thought it would at least be a reasonable assumption that DH requires a double crown... Pietermaritzburg, anyone? Some modern long-travel trail bikes have been steep and finicky. Then we have things like this new Evil. We're used to manufacturers pairing a geometry with a squish number suited to its intentions... Does it really matter how much a bike can squish? We all set up our suspension differently anyway. I like how the new Demo is sold in LENGTHS, not SIZES. It makes a lot of sense - maybe not for XC, but maybe for more than just DH. I'm 5'9" - sometimes a medium is just right; sometimes a large is more my style. Maybe we'll someday look at travel the same way - not a matter of the CLASS of bicycle (a marketing convention, if we're being honest, and a pretty arbitrary one at that), but as a matter of the preference of the rider. I think we've just been omitting an important question in choosing our bike. "Earn your turns vs. straight down all day" isn't all we need to think about - when we descend, HOW do we like to go about doing it? Plowing over everything, or picking a flowy line? ........Thrills vs. skills, perhaps? Wink
  • 5 0
 I own an intense carbine 29er with a 67° head angle and i just put the new fox 36, 160mm fork on it. Im super impressed to say the least. It may not be for everyone but i live in squamish and it suits this environment and terrain.
  • 2 1
 Spesh Enduro 29er fork is 160mm, 155mm rear.
  • 8 1
 Everyone in this thread is forgetting the Remedy 29! It has the most EWS stage wins if I remember correctly.
  • 4 0
 @Bluefire, you nailed it: "Geometry makes the machine," not the amount of travel it has. Although short travel bikes with slack geometries have been around (e.g. Banshee's hardtail Morphine, SC's Blur 4X, Transition's Preston and Bottle Rocket...), it looks like they're finally becoming more abundant.

For 29ers, with their bigger hoops and shallower angle of attack, I definitely agree that geometry impacts their capabilities more so than their travel. I'm stoked for the growth of slack angled-short chainstay 29ers--first with hardtails like N9/Yelli, Honzo, Mason, Surface/Rootdown, etc, and now the FS bikes like the Behemoth, E29, '14 WFO, Process 111, Phantom, Smuggler, Evil's Following, and Canfield's '15 Riot.
  • 2 1
 So 160 is considered long travel for a 29er, and then you have bikes like this evil, the process, the new transitiin 29er etc all in the 100-120 range considered short travel.

So then where are bikes like the banshee prime, transition covert, yeti sb95, etc fit in. These are all 29er bikes in the 125-140 range with slack get. Are they in this new category as well or are they more of a mid travel? And how do the compare?
  • 5 0
 I think what we're all saying is there are no travel categories necessarily. We have this urge to file things in some order, but these new bikes are showing that, maybe with 29er trail bikes at least, travel is not a defining characteristic. I ride a Transition Bandit 29 with 140/130, and I love it, but I'm lusting after their new Smuggler with 130/115, just because of the geometry. If we just ignore suspension travel, we can sort of categorize these bikes simply by geometry numbers. Or we can just call them fun trail bikes and choose one and shred.
  • 1 3
 i had a 26 covert and it's an awesome bike, but when ting's get ruff they don't behave that well
the new models(changed for the patrol now) are well more redefined at the geometry, and the travel did go down slightly
  • 4 0
 I'd never cared much for the 29er until more recently when the companies started introducing these more all around, do it all type all mountain/aggressive trail models. By next summer I hope to be able to afford one. I thought I'd be in the market for something like the covert or the banshee prime, something with a little more travel but these articles are making me think twice.
  • 6 2
 I do not need it. I do not need it. I do not need it.
  • 2 1
 That is completely irrelevant - the issue is how bad you like it and do you want it. Those are the questions - then what you need is circumstances - are you about to buy a new bike and can you afford this one? If all is yes, then marketings, test and press release role will be only to give you an excuse to buy it Big Grin With Stewie Griffins voice: Dance puppets DAAANCE!
  • 4 1
 Was at duthie hill on Friday and saw a 27.5 version of this bike being put through its paces.
  • 3 0
 finally finish building my bike and Evil has to throw this in my face. Jerks.
  • 2 0
 This bike is drop dead sexy! I'd love to give one a go to see how it rides! I'd have to give up a kidney though of I ever wanted to buy it Frown
  • 2 2
 If you comment on any different wheel size other than 26" with Disdain...Your in this sport for the wrong reasons. A mountain bike is a Mountain bike. If it brings a smile to someones face and gives them true pleasure..WHAT THE f*ck DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHAT WHEEL SIZE THAT PERSON IS RIDING!! Give me one GOOD reason why a person should not ride a 29er!
  • 4 1
 Shut up and take my money!
  • 2 0
 So what are the three bolts/pivots on the forward end of the rear triangle? I'm confused as to what is going on there.
  • 4 0
 Those 3 bolts are for the flip-chip', a hallmark of Evil frames. you can flip them over to change bb height and HA.
  • 1 2
 thats where they crack.
  • 3 1
 Will they be releasing a new 26" or 27.5" frame? 26" 180mm Uprising would be great.
  • 2 0
 that poor level of mud clearance means its be useless for riding in the uk for half the year
  • 3 0
 It was plenty sloppy on this day and there didn't seem to be any issues with mud clearance, but when we get one in for review I'll be sure to get it muddy. Remember, the bike in the pictures has 2.3" Hans Dampfs, which is one of the wider 2.3" tires out there.
  • 3 1
 Would you have to wait 2 years for warranty for this one, Like the Evil Revolt?
  • 8 0
 You mean the warranty they honored with an upgrade to a carbon Undead?
  • 2 0
 yeap 2 years later!!! If you have lots of money to buy another bike while you wait I guess its cool!!!
  • 2 0
 that's just one chapter from the book man. @toooldtodieyoung summed it up well. Seems that Evil is exactly the kind of small business we should want to support - regardless whether it's bike industry or not. They have an absolutely amazing product and afaik run their business with integrity. Where's the problem?
  • 2 0
 Well there is a problem that A - so many frames of one kind failed aaaand B - that you needed to wait 2 years for recompense, with no guarantee that it won't happen again... nothing more than that - Yes, a chapter from a book. If you think for a moment, that if you could stand on Pluto, Earth would be so small you wouldn't even see it, and all it's problems so irrelevant in the vastness of space. One day, humanity will become nothing more than a napkin thin layer in Earth's crust... humility is the virtue of the righteous... Now - just curious - have you actually bought Evil Revolt and been personally involved in that situation or you are just transcending on the luxury that it wasn't your time and money?
  • 1 0
 a. Nope, haven't owned one... yet. There was a time when I wouldn't even consider it based on peers' experiences with the revolt, although they always prefaced their stories with "it was the most amazing bike I'd ridden". But I have confidence in the brand at this time and would put them at the top of the list next time I'm shopping for a new bike.

Freehub ran a nice article about them recently freehubmag.com/store/freehub-back-issue-volume-52 and here's a similar version of that story 2flat.net/2012/03/09/the-writer-knows-nothing-evil - good read IMO.

b. where can we get what you're smoking?
  • 2 0
 a - thanks for sharing, that was one of the best reads I ever had about "the industry" and definitely the best one from Seb Kemp Big Grin I'd still be pissed off if I bought a Revolt. See? Everything depends on a point of view... that was my point.
b - I do not smoke anything, THC makes me paranoid or depressed. I have always been this way... in high school I've been writing essays and making drawings for them about Punisher like character who walked around town at nights with fire extinguisher on his back and water tap in his hand, which he used to tear victims anuses apart. Or a comic book about Death-like character demi-god Ajahl, who's arch rival was a Hippie Wraith in form of undead Jimmy Morrison killing people with his deadly stinking breath. I based most characters on people from my class. I just love absurd... thanks for bringing those great memories I cried laughing.
  • 2 0
 I dont care if its a short travel 29er its still sexy AF and I want one!
  • 3 1
 Long, slack, short travel 29'er....Orange Segment, job done.
  • 2 0
 17.7" chainstays. If orange wised up and dropped some CS length, I'd be all over it.
  • 1 0
 I'm still patiently waiting for an update to the Sovereign. We needs it, precious.
  • 3 0
 You can email them directly to get one I believe. MkIII Sovereigns are out, check Evil Bikes FB page mate Wink
  • 3 0
 Wat.
  • 1 0
 That is one sick human-powered, pedal-driven, single-track vehicle first introduced in the 19th century
  • 2 0
 A 29r trail bike that looks this good. That's just Evil.
  • 1 0
 I am a 29er off road Loco rider and I telling you that this bike is the shit I am calling evil bike pronto.
  • 2 0
 Looks like it has a pressfit 92, judging from the frame only picture.
  • 2 0
 That's correct.
  • 1 0
 I always thought I might be better off with simply buying a bearings factory instead.
  • 1 0
 Everyone is forgetting that commencal created the first short travel slack 29er

The meta am 1 29"
  • 3 2
 transition smuggler…similar, if not better geo numbers and way better customer service
  • 1 0
 Choose your wheelsize and be a dick about it… Just got invalid, this thing is sexy!!
  • 2 0
 Uh Fuk! Not another bike that I Fukin want!!!!
  • 1 0
 uh fuk! not another bike that I fuking want but cannot afford!!!
  • 1 0
 When will Pinkbike do a review on the uprising? Evil needs more love. They have been incredible for me.
  • 1 0
 Where's the Fox?? I don't have anything. Against Rockshox, I just prefer Fox
  • 1 0
 Looks cool but ill stick with my Banshee Phantom with DB inline at 66 head angle and 140mm pike
  • 1 0
 Hey pinkbike I just got mine UK . What a bike it is ) running 140 fork no problems . Loveing it )))))))))
  • 5 3
 29 never looked so sex
  • 2 1
 anybody notice the name of the color is "Dont shoot me orange"
  • 1 0
 Anyone know how to get the bike mag in the uk? Can't subscribe on amazon.
  • 3 2
 I wish it was lighter. DW always makes some awesome suspension designs.
  • 1 0
 well it is extra legit so....looks nice..
  • 2 1
 It resembles a Niner at first glance.
  • 2 0
 No more Fox + Shimano?
  • 1 1
 I'm sure I'll get ostracized for this but I was really hoping this was going to be a 27.5 160mm travel bike.
  • 2 0
 Ohh enduro !
  • 3 2
 In collors "black don't shoot me".... Come onnn
  • 2 0
 There are two colors. "Don't Shoot Me Orange" and Black.
  • 1 0
 Mr strobel is gonna have a new toy
  • 1 0
 can you even buy evil bikes new from evil or any distributors?
  • 1 0
 The dEVIL is in the details.
  • 1 0
 @PMDH47 خوراک خودته Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Looks more 'fun' than a fatbike lol
  • 1 0
 i got to see one of these in the flesh last week...so dope
  • 1 0
 So Evil just helped make 29ers relevant to me again.... nice.
  • 1 0
 Cool!! My next will be the bike heh !!
  • 1 0
 Hate the name love the the bike!
  • 1 0
 I appears that Evil updated the SA to 74.8d on this. Confirm/deny?
  • 4 6
 Like how is there even a logical reason to create this type of bike right now!? Everybody I know wants a long travel 27.5. Like Wtf.
  • 3 1
 Hardly. Go into a bike shop and there are piles of 29ers.
  • 2 0
 that's why, they are tring 29 er not to die. here in europe they didn't stick to much, the people i know and see ate the races only ride 27.5 or 26. only 3 or 4 have a 29er
  • 2 0
 this bike was done in 2012, clearly evil is way off the back when it comes to creating new product.
  • 2 0
 having a prototype in 2012 doesn't mean it is the same bike, lot's of bikes were started 2 or 3 years before they were released to lunch a great product takes time, especially if in a small company like evil
  • 3 1
 I feel like mid travel is coming back. There was a brief craze for 160 bikes but then suddenly the trail bracket came roaring back.
  • 1 1
 29 is the new 27.5 which was the new 26.
Look-It is clear that people have realized what many have been stating all along if you want a clearly distinct riding difference in wheel sizes. The jump to 29 is the only one that makes actual logical sense. 26 to 27.5 is and always was a joke. It was too small a jump to be revolutionary.
Stronger and extra wide 29er carbon rims allow wheel builds that solve the real offroaders issues with 29ers. The new hub width jump to 148 will end the discussion altogether.
IMO it is a shame so much drama was wasted on the 26 to 27.5 thing.
I will trade my SB66C for either this Evil or the new Yeti coming in summer that will combine the Infinity with 29er wheels. I never thought I'd say that. What convinced me? Riding my Yeti ARCc I just built it as a goof to try it out and realized how those wheels do indeed make a difference. I almost believe I could live w/o suspension sometimes.I also realized I do not need a 6" travel bike although the the SB is still pretty awesome.
  • 2 0
 it depend's where you ride at.
for most part's off europe it doesn't make that much sense
i made the switch from 26 for 27.5, only because i swapped the frame , did not ride it yet but looking forward to that

i think the 27.5 is not to be revolutionary, just to be a little better than the 26 on traction over the increase tire footprint and smother over rough terrain but also sharper and more agile that 29 . but if the majority of trails you ride are open with not much close corner's why not?
  • 1 0
 I am inclined to believe wheel size has a smaller effect than people like to think. I have ridden a 29er and a 26er that felt the same. I have a 27.5 that feels awesome, but it's geometry makes it what it is. There is no point in worrying about wheel size anymore. the designers will pick a size based on what makes sense for what they want the bike to do and what parts are available.
  • 2 0
 "I will trade my SB66C for either this Evil or the new Yeti coming in summer that will combine the Infinity with 29er wheels."

^ When this bike lands it's going to be damn popular. 29", 120-140mm up front, Infinity Switch out back, will probably build to 25-26lbs if you really push it.
  • 1 0
 would prefer que sb6c, saw a sb5c the other day on a bikeshop, but the sbc6 or a devinci spartan are the 2 favorite bikes i woul like to have.
sure, if i had them given or money to spare would have a 29(evil of course ) and a production privee hardetail, but couldn't have that as my main bike
  • 1 0
 It Burns! It Burns!!
  • 1 0
 Looks... Funny
  • 1 0
 Hmmmm..... Ill take 2
  • 1 1
 The state of that linkage would make me nearly want to buy an Orange.
  • 7 8
 I would rather have a simpler frame
  • 1 1
 Banshee phantom about as simple as it gets and probably better than this bike IMO
  • 1 1
 no longer looks evil ;(
  • 1 2
 This in 650b please..1 size wheel quiver for me. Ala intense 650b spyder.
  • 1 0
 Btw...ate these words as ive been on the following for 1.5 years now!
  • 2 3
 Looks like an undead?!
  • 6 0
 Well, yeah...
  • 2 4
 pitty the reach is short....needs to be 30mm longer
  • 6 8
 meh still dorky
  • 7 10
 Dorky looking frame.
  • 8 0
 If you mean in the "space ships are for dorks" kind of way, I fully agree.
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