First Look: 2021 Knolly Chilcotin - Now With 29" Wheels & 167mm of Travel

Dec 2, 2020
by Daniel Sapp  

Knolly has given their Chilcotin enduro bike a complete redesign for 2021. This yields a 29" wheeled bike with two different suspension travel options. If you're wondering why 29" wheels are noteworthy, the previous Chilcotin used the 26" hoops of yesteryear. The bike's suspension duties are handled by Knolly's Fourby4 suspension platform.

The 6066 aluminum frame is available in a 151mm or 167mm rear suspension version with 12 x 157mm rear hub spacing, a 73mm bottom bracket, and two-position adjustable geometry. There is clearance for up to a 2.6" tire. Internal cable routing and water bottle mounts are standard.
Knolly Chilcotin Details

• Wheelsize: 29"
• Travel: 150/160mm or 167/170mm
• Aluminum frame
• 63.8° head angle
• Chainstay length: 438mm (167mm)
• Adjustable geometry
• Price: $5,300 USD
knollybikes.com


There are two build options and the frame is available in sizes medium thru extra large, with the medium sporting a 464mm reach. Along with the generous reach, in the slacker geometry position the Chilcotin has a 63.8-degree headtube angle, 76.9-degree effective seat tube angle, and 438mm chainstay length on the 167mm travel bike when paired with a 170mm fork.


Frame Details

The biggest update on the new Chilcotin is the shift from 26" wheels to 29". There's also a move to 157Trail rear hub spacing, which uses a wider flange 157 hub paired with a 73mm bottom bracket shell. Knolly believe this gives them the most options for tire size, easily clearing up to a 2.6 x 29" tread. The 157Trail hub also gives more heel clearance while retaining the ability to run up to a 36T chainring.

The bike is constructed using 6066 series hydroformed aluminum alloy tubing. Knolly chose this aluminum for its combination of high tensile strength along with excellent durability. It allows them to create more complex shapes that maximize torsional stiffness and create what they feel is a 'high performance, predictable ride'. The bike has an open cockpit downtube protector, internal cable routing, and water bottle mounts.

Knolly's Offset Straight Seat Tube Design' (OSD) lets riders to move between a more effective pedaling position to a more aggressive position for harder riding more easily. This allows the saddle to be extra low on steep terrain with full rear-wheel travel. Additionally, it gives clearance for up to a 175mm post on size medium frames and 200mm+ on sizes large and extra-large due to a straight and uninterrupted seat tube.


Suspension

Knolly uses their Fourby4 suspension platform for the Chilcotin. It has a progressive leverage curve designed to manage large hits while still having initial sensitivity along with plenty of mid-stroke support. The back end of the bike is longer than Knolly's trail and freeride bikes in order to increase high-speed stability.

The Fourby4 suspension is designed to reduce the impacts of brake squat which Knolly claim enables the rear wheel to maintain more contact with the ground and carry speed through more technical terrain.

The bike's pedaling traction is designed to ensure consistent pedaling performance, even in rough spots, so riders can more easily pedal whenever they need to get more power in, according to Knolly.


Geometry

The geometry of the Chilcotin is adjustable (slack or neutral). The adjustment for changing the geo is a simple bolt removal where a rider can slide the shock back or forward, and then re-install the bolt. This adjustment changes the effective seat tube angle from 77.6-degrees in the neutral setting to 76.9 in the slack mode. Similarly, the head tube angle changes from 64.5-degrees to 63.8-degrees.



Build Options

The Chilcotin platform has one frame but two suspension travel options. The Chilcotin 150 build kit features 150mm of rear-wheel travel paired to a 160mm fork. The Chilcotin 167 build kit ups the rear-wheel travel to, you guessed it, 167mm, with a 170mm Fox 38 Float or RockShox Zeb.

There are two build kit options, DP and EC along with two color choices, 'Moody Blue' and Raw. The bike will be available in December at dealers and online with prices starting at $5,300 USD.








211 Comments

  • 92 5
 Daaaaaammmmmmnnnnn, don't really need this big of a bike but maybe I need this big of a bike. Well done Knolly, this thing looks amazing.
  • 16 0
 I'm 100% on board with this comment. I actually checked to see if I wont the MegaMillions last night as soon as I saw this bike. (I didnt - actually didnt even buy a ticket haha but I will for Friday)
  • 23 0
 could not agree more.. i am stocked about all these Alu bikes coming out....
  • 3 24
flag ShreddieMercury (Dec 2, 2020 at 10:42) (Below Threshold)
 yeah but why removable chain guide tabs?? make it solid.
  • 88 1
 @ShreddieMercury: So when you case something massively, you break the tabs rather than the frame. Just like a derailleur hanger.
  • 14 1
 @KNOLLYBIKES: Some of us are just hack riders. This is smart.
  • 2 2
 Looks... The day they do something about those curves is the day i'm buying a Knolly for life. It rides like a Cadi, but personally I prefer something more in the lines of Transition Scout.
  • 2 0
 @Zayphod: I like the looks here. Slap the new gold and raw ccdb on as shock, run all silver parts with black rims and you have a looker.
  • 52 3
 My Fugitive LT is the most shockingly capable bike I've ever ridden; I'm almost terrified of what this thing may be capable of....
  • 14 0
 Same for me ! I ride with my Fugitive LT everywhere, from chill rides in my city to bikepark tracks ! This one, if it pedals well, can be an absolute killer ! But I would like to know the size of the shock...
  • 5 0
 My endorphin still is the funnest bike i ever owned and I'm so curious how it would ride in a mullet setup. Just sitting in my cave and i should sell it make somebody else happy but can't get myself to get rid of it...
  • 3 0
 @SleepingAwake: Same here... considering going to a Fugitive LT but now that this is out... it just might be too much bike for what I ride. But man, it looks sick!
  • 3 0
 @SleepingAwake: The Endorphin in mullet mode is great!
  • 12 0
 100%! I have a Fugitive LT as well, and it is crazy capable. Its not light, but it rides light, and makes the easy trails fun, and the burly trails smooth. Pretty magical bike.
  • 4 0
 Same here. I owned the OG Chilcotin, but this looks like more bike than I need. My Fugitive LT is so capable and fun, I absolutely love it.
  • 1 1
 That comes off very "turneresque" of old. Smile
  • 4 1
 Agree, love my Fug! Ridicilously capable and well engineered, capable in big terrain but still also a lot of fun riding in smaller/tighter terrain!

So much traction. I switch mine up between 135 rear travel (LT) and 120 for snappier trail riding. Matched with a CC Helm which I can change between 140,150 and 160 up front. But most of the time I leave it in 150 which works with both rear travel modes, giving good dynamic geometry.

Its bigger brother looks bad ass too.
  • 2 0
 @FredrikWestman: Yes, that describes the Fugitive really well. How do you like it at 120mm rear travel? I plan to swap shocks and try that out sometime. I have mine set at 135/160 and it works very well on my local trails. I do sometimes switch between steep and slack modes, which makes a small but noticeable difference to the way the bike performs.
  • 45 2
 Here we go... 29" wheels, 160+mm of rear travel, 157 rear end with a 170mm 38mm stanchion fork, burly aluminum frame meant to dish out and take a severe beating, and raw.... ooo baby I like it rawww! This is the mini DH / Enduro sled of my dreams!!
  • 24 1
 Upvoted for ODB
  • 30 1
 BONNIE MCMURRAY
  • 5 0
 Well that's a Texas-sized 10-4 good buddy!
  • 26 0
 Holy Knolly!
  • 19 1
 I own a Knolly Warden and I have to say that each and every one of their claims about their bikes is true, they are well thought out and engineered, a patented suspension that works as claimed, all of the design decisions are purposed based, without compromise, and focused on what's most important, the ride.
  • 7 0
 sames Smile Threw a DVO jade x coil on my carbon warden. Still can't pick my jaw up off the floor.
  • 15 0
 Looks great!!! If I had money I’d get this or the new banshee titan....I love high end aluminum bikes!!!
  • 3 1
 How much money? I’ve got a titan for sale...Smile
  • 4 0
 @andrewfif: a lot less than $5k!!! Plus I’m 6’5”...
  • 1 0
 @unrooted: Im looking at a titan as well but this definitely interests me. Not sure about that very slack looking actual seat tube angle on the XL sizing though.
  • 2 1
 @newbermuda: I just noticed that the chilcotin has a 110mm headtube on the xl....compared to 140mm on the Titan!

I am still riding a V1 Banshee Prime with a 160mm fork (and -2 degree works headset) and it has a 115mm headtube length which I have to run 75mm of spacers under my stem along with a 40mm riser bar... I definitely won’t be getting the chilcoten now!

@KNOLLYBIKES why such a short headtube???
  • 2 1
 @unrooted: You're trying to compare 2 bikes only by their headtube length... I think you didn't saw that the bike took more than 40mm in top-tube and reach length ! It's a lot and i think it could already help you to have a better position on the bike, without the need to add a lot of spacers under the stem
  • 1 0
 @Voxran: v1 banshee prime xl: stack 633mm, reach 475, eff tt 645
2020 Titan XL: stack 653, reach 495, eff tt 650
Chilcotin XL: stack 637, reach 516, eff tt 688
Transition sentinel xl: stack 640, reach 501, eff tt 641, headtube length 130
Transition Sentinel xxl: stack 649, reach 521, eff tt 665, headtube length 140

I’d love to demo all of these bikes to see what actually fits best...but I’m still thinking that I’d need a higher stack height than the chilcotin if I don’t want to run 2 handfuls of spacers under my stem...but maybe that insanely long eff tt on the chilcotin will make up for the short headtube length....but more likely it seems like it will just make my back and neck hurt
  • 3 0
 @unrooted: titan has very long cs, meaning you need less weight on the front wheel for traction, so higher bars are oaky, knolly has super short cs so you gotta keep much more weight thru the front to evenly weight tires, meaning lower handlebars.
  • 1 0
 @Maxwrbike: then I guess I need long chainstays.
  • 2 0
 @unrooted: i have a prime v3 and the long chainstays are great, fastest bike ive ever ridden. Titan should only be faster
  • 12 0
 I've been waiting so long for a long travel 29er from Knolly, and for them to bring back the Chilcotin. They just did it in one fell swoop. The Delirium and Chili were such rad bikes, and I'm hoping for similar radness in this one.
  • 13 1
 Love Knolly bikes and they knocked it out of the park with this! Numbers are spot on, good build, and just a great looking bike. So many bikes these days are getting the ultra busy bottom bracket area with low slung shocks, SI links, Hi Pivot links, etc etc. Its nice to see a simple clean looking bike.
  • 12 1
 Not a critique of Knolly, but what's the reason manufacturers are still making frames with 160mm brake post mounts? Why not a native 180mm mount so you don't immediately need an adapter? I'd think at this point everyone is going to run at least 180mm rotors on anything that isn't an XC race bike.

Hell, I'd probably just put 200mm rotors on a bike this capable.
  • 17 1
 We use one forging extrusion among several bikes. It lets us use this piece on a lighter duty bike where people might want a 160mm and those that want to run a 200mm on this bike to use a 40mm post.
  • 10 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES: Interesting, thanks for the info. What lighter-duty bike do you make that's xc-ish enough to merit a tiny little 160mm rotor?

I have trouble envisioning someone buying a Knolly and then trying to hang ultra-light parts on it. And that's meant as a compliment.
  • 5 0
 @kd7000: tend to agree with you. I run 200mm rotors and Code RSCs on my 150mil trail bike. But at the same time no biggie to post them up and performance is good.
  • 6 8
 Everything except for xc bikes should be 200 standard.
  • 11 1
 @kd7000: The Fugitive short travel (120mm rear) would be the lightest duty.
  • 1 0
 I ride a Warden C and am well served by a rear 160mm rotor. But i also weigh 150lbs and stop with my front brake.
  • 2 6
flag vr6ix (Dec 2, 2020 at 19:45) (Below Threshold)
 He's got a point, and something I've been annoyed at in the last two decades of bike parts & garage custom builds & over-priced adapters... make the brake bosses on frames and forks fit the big stuff, offer adapters to fit the silly smaller rotors and let the dentists and weight-weenies deal with the extra parts and weight and problems. Instead of the other way around?

If there was ever an MTB standard that actually needed updating I would vote for brake bosses and never look back.
  • 11 0
 @vr6ix: pray tell, how do you plan on using an adapter to get the caliper closer to the axle?
  • 2 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES: good move. I like to modulate powerful brakes with a smaller rotor on some bikes.
  • 1 0
 +1 this ^
  • 1 2
 @KNOLLYBIKES
But it seems like the bike industry overall has already effectively moved up in size. Even though you say the little rotors are ok for a "light duty" bike like the Fugitive, your very own build kits are 180/180 or 203/180.

It might make more sense for a bigger company that actually makes lightweight XC bike to share a 160mm size forging across their product line. Knolly is a perfect example of a company that *doesn't* need to cater to the lightweight XC crowd.

I seriously doubt anyone considering one of your bikes would take a pass because the rear rotor mount is too big. I just think it would be cool to see some smaller companies set the trend / precedent that we don't need to use silly adapters for our brakes.
  • 1 1
 @MattInNZ: Why did PB post my recent comment twice???? hmmm
  • 8 0
 @kd7000: Do you know how some companies offer a BC edition or a Pemberton edition of their bike which comes with bigger and tougher parts? That is the starting point for our builds. The option is there for people to run a 160,, because a lot of our design choices revolve around allowing the rider to make the choice on their build rather than us forcing something onto the customers.
  • 1 1
 @PortTownsendTrailsFTW: Should be easy, offsetting the mount holes towards the axle for smaller rotors instead of away from it for large rotors. Not a problem I feel like solving lol

Some of my old frames used a 140 rotor mount in the back and that was 2004. We're only up to 160 more than 15 years later. I'm not convinced that 180 is a bad thing to adapt that's all.
  • 1 1
 I would rather like to f*ck up an adapter then the mount/threads on the frame.

Thats why I`m always using adapters of the 4 screws type, two to mount on the frame, two to mount the brake
  • 14 3
 It'd be really nice to get some info on how this rides....It'd be funny if this was the mystery bike.
  • 11 2
 please be the mystery bike!
  • 13 1
 the mystery bike is using 27,5" wheels.
  • 8 8
 @Coolwinner05: ...and thus, nobody cares except for the mystery
  • 42 0
 It would be awesome if we were the mystery bike but we are not. We are getting one of the the 167 Chilcotins to PB shortly for a proper review.
  • 6 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES: this thing looks rad!! might be time to put my fugitive in ST mode and build one of these up nice and burly.

what size shock does it use? don't see it in the press release or on the site.
  • 1 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES: do you guys plan on releasing a small? 464 reach is too big and I'm in the market for a new bike. I am 5'5"
  • 2 1
 @KNOLLYBIKES: How does this fit in between the delirium and warden/warden lt?
  • 10 0
 @scotteh: That is what I'm doing with my Fugitive. The shock is a 205mm, stroke varies depending on travel you want.
  • 15 0
 @ThunderChunk: Unlikely. We've built our models with a wheelsize in mind rather than mulleting or changing the wheels to 27.5 for the smaller sizes. There are too many changes that happen to a bike when going to smaller wheels to call the bike the same bike. At 5'5", check out the Warden in a size small. If you really want a 29'er front wheel, running that bike in a 160/160 mullet is a blast!
  • 4 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES: any chance on a new Endorphin?
  • 2 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES: good to know the warden works for mullet. Thank you
  • 2 0
 @DHhack: I envision the Fugitive as the new Endo. I ponder just biting the 157mm bullet and buying one.
  • 1 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES: I can confirm that. My current setup is a large Mullet Warden configured as 168mm rear and 160mm front, I am 5'11" (180cm). That setup has been a gamechanger for me, especially when riding steep and gnarly trails where I previously lacked confidence. Additionally, I would like to mention that is very predictable when jumping (until now I have always been very reluctant to commit to jumps) it is also worth mentioning that it is surprisingly agile despite a fairly slack head angle. As for climbing it is fully acceptable as an Enduro bike.

For what it is worth, my winter project is a park bike. For that I am contemplating a Mullet delirium, so 175mm rear and 170mm Zeb in the front. That said, this announcement could change my mind.
  • 4 0
 @defineindecline: if they go all 29er than I guess so. Personally I love the 120-130ish travel 27.5 bikes like the endo or transition scout. It’s a dying breed though for sure.
  • 2 0
 @scotteh: That is going to be my winter project too. That said, it actually makes quite a difference moving the shock to Neutral position. My Wednesday night crew are getting tired of captain slow on the climbs ;-)
  • 6 0
 Such an amazing bike and rounds out the whole new Knolly line beautifully. I got a chance to ride the pre-production version in Whistler, as did my son. Wet rainy day, everything greasy, and exactly zero minutes on the bike. He just dialled in the brake levers to his smaller hands and hit the trail. He posted his 2nd fasted time ever on a local test piece descent. Then proceeded to do so on just about every trail he rode. In the bike park in 170 mode or on wide open fast descents, this thing just wants to go. But it still climbs remarkably well for a big long bike. No, it's not a trail-bike whip, but it gets you there with the generous traction that helps it just move along. It's a great compliment to the Warden. If you ride hard tech janky gnar all the time, the Warden is your beast. If you live in a place like Kamloops, ride park, or just hammer fast on big straight rake n' rides, this bike is the sled of your dreams.
  • 8 0
 The 26 Chilcotin was the most fun bike I've owned by a mile, high expectations here boys
  • 5 0
 Is it dual crown compatible? I had the delirium and the back end was amazing, just fit too small for me. Knolly's bikes ride like high pivot bikes in that the back end always feels way better than the travel numbers suggest and I'd love to be able to try it out with a dual crown for park/dh race days to get the most out of a single frame?
  • 27 0
 Yes.
  • 5 0
 Owned a couple chilis for the past few years. Unbelievably good. Sold me to try other bikes, newer Kona and transition and Rocky Mountain, ended up going with a warden 275 gen 1 raw just this month. No point trying other brands. Knolly is the best by faaaaaaar. Craftsmanship!
  • 4 0
 I'm so excited for this, especially after spending the last two seasons on a Fugitive that's been the most capable bike I've ever ridden. The geo is on point and the travel options make the new Chili super viable as a trail and park bike. Suh-weet! After having a 26" Chili, getting another one will be rad!
  • 6 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES - beautiful bike, just when I thought the Fugitive was capable of anything I could throw at it you bring this along. Will it be available as a frame only?
  • 1 0
 I wanna know too!!!
  • 4 0
 Oh yeah... and under “Frame Details” section... there is a whole lot more going on than moving from 26 to 29 inch wheels. If anyone has a 2014 or prior mid travel Knolly...and haven’t seen the new ones in person.. the swingarm is much more beefy, eliptical and tapered as opposed to square section. Also a new burly shape to the seat stays. The links are all new and the junction/bottom bracket area of the frame is much more podium looking than older chilcotin. Big, lovely weld beads..just outstandingly different in build strength... o Yeah...and it has 29” wheels vs the OG chilcotin 26ers...
  • 3 0
 What do the antisquat numbers look like? Traditionally Knolly has been a fan of keeping it very low and using the shock to firm up climbing, but I know the fugitive moved towards more antisquat.
  • 3 0
 @carym We took some inspiration from the Fugitive so it had some extra zip but we kept it sane enough to no give away the traction and plushness the brand is known for.
  • 6 0
 Norco, Knolly all bringing back Freeride baby!!
  • 27 0
 We never left baby.
  • 5 0
 Well done Knolly! Sick AF as usual. Can’t wait to throw a leg over one!
  • 2 0
 A mate raced for Astrix in the UK back in 2001 or something. I remember he switched over to Knolly a few years later. When we saw that first DH bike of theirs up the local woods it looked like you could drive over it in a tank and it would be fine. This new bike all those years later still looks pretty indestructible!
  • 2 0
 Currently owning/loving a 26” chilcotin, delirium and podium, and just done building up a friends brand new Warden LT... I can say these new frame designs are stout AF and spot on with Knollys tradition of making it climb, descend, produce epic smiles and repeat for many many cycles before issues arise. This chili is a beaut! Wait until you see their new DH bike!!!
  • 3 0
 Top tube lengths in the geo chart don't make sense. Shouldn't be that gigantic with those reach numbers and the steep seat tube angle. Looks like an awesome bike.
  • 2 0
 @jwdenver

Exactly my question. The ETT numbers are enormous for their size. Like going a size or so up on other brands. The Large Knolly here is 660mm, where most other brands are ~620-630mm ish.

Unless the actual STA is so slack that at ride height it makes the ETT super large? I don't see what saddle height is used for the ETT number, so that might be it.
  • 2 0
 @jwdenver i was thinking the same thing...the 632 effective top tube of a medium chilly (464 reach, ~77.25 STA) is almost identical to the 634 ETT of a large fugitive (477 reach and a ~75.5 STA). doesn't add up at first glance...

Any comment on that @KNOLLYBIKES ?
  • 3 1
 "What we measure is relatively straightforward: the horizontal length from the top of the head tube axis to where it intersects the effective seat tube axis. That's the trick, because the ffective seat tube axis is a line out in space which makes it hard to measure with a tape measure.

What we don't do is what a lot of other brands do and that is "dumb down this measurement" by trying to pretend that the axis of the Effective and Actual seat tubes meet in space at a "magically changing saddle height that just happens to correspond also to the stack measurement". Because it doesn't. Unless you are a relatively small person, your saddle height is significantly higher than the stack measurement from the top of your head tube. "
  • 2 0
 @Losifer: Fair enough. What I fail to see in the geometry chart is where, at which height, distance from BB, is this effective "seat tube axis".
  • 3 0
 @Losifer:

The part that is confusing to me, is that regardless how exactly its measured, this frame has such a different ETT measurement than Knollys own other frames, which should be measured the same way. 30mm longer ETT on the Chilcotin than the same size Fugitive is a pretty large difference.

Wondering if its just a misprint.
  • 2 0
 @ocnlogan: yeah seems weird. The specialized enduro in size s3 has the same reach as this bike in size medium, with a much slacker seat angle, and still has a significantly shorter top tube than this bike.
  • 3 0
 @ocnlogan: Our local dealer is slated to get a large in the first batch, I will run measurements and take some pics comparing it to my large Fugitive.
  • 3 0
 Looks very good. I didn’t see anywhere in the article how much the bike weighed. Aluminum beast like this I’m going to guess around 36lbs? Confirm or deny?
  • 5 0
 Medium Raw w SDLX Ultimate - GX Eagle, CODE R, ZEB, SPANK, DD tires, no pedals...34.5lbs
  • 2 0
 @fungusfreakland: So add pedals and make it a large frame and we’re looking at 36lbs. Same as my 2021 aluminum Meta AM 29. Nicely done Knolly.
Park and shuttle smasher. \m/
  • 1 0
 @fungusfreakland: Not bad considering Zeb is 1/2lbs heavier than 36 ,and DD's if maxx grip are almost 1/2lbs heavier a tire than exo.
  • 5 2
 "The 157Trail hub also gives more heel clearance"

More heel clearance than what? More than a 190mm fat bike hub or somehow more than a 148mm?
  • 12 2
 @PhillipJ Hi, we've been expecting the 157 comment. Please see some writing, math to back it up, and some pretty pictures.
www.pinkbike.com/news/knolly-moves-entire-lineup-to-157mm-spacing-157trail.html
  • 4 2
 @KNOLLYBIKES:

"heel clearance of our new designs has only moved outward by 1.5mm"

Impressive effort to go wider at the hub without going significantly wider elsewhere but from the article you linked that's despite 157, not because of it.


Don't think I'll ever be convinced that MOAR STIFF is worth it but at least you're not compromising the frame for actually riding to achieve it.
  • 2 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES: I've been super impressed by Knolly - what I have read, your website, the support from average joe riders. But every time I get serious about buying one this 157 rear axle things kills it for me. I have multiple sets of carbon wheels in both 142 and 148 that I move to new bikes as I go. Not being able to use my existing wheels really creates a barrier for me. This is meant as a friendly suggestion as I'd really like to see you guys succeed and I'm sure there are others out there like me.
  • 7 1
 @jnicol: get the Problem Solvers boost to super boost hub adapter. I had a boost wheel set and did that when I bought a Knolly, works fine.

I really don’t understand why so many people are set against 157, it allows for more room and stiffness in frame design as well as options for hub flange spacing, seems much more logical than boost.
  • 2 9
flag JohanG (Dec 3, 2020 at 5:05) (Below Threshold)
 @KNOLLYBIKES: Looks like a really well designed bike, except for the part where it's a 157 hub and I realize I will never buy it because of that.
  • 3 4
 @coachphillip: It's this bit I took issue with:

"The 157Trail hub also gives more heel clearance"

Because it's a blatant lie and the 157 article @KNOLLYBIKES linked highlights that it's a lie.

Less clearance is an actual downside of wider hubs.
  • 3 0
 @PhillipJ: I see now, that was a typo. Thanks for the great catch. A wider rear hub spacing which leads to a wider chain line will result in greater tire clearance. We have designed the yoke to ensure there is lots of clearance for various chain rings. If you read the article I posted in response originally, you can see more information. If you don't want to read it, I'll quote the key part below:

"FRAME CLEARANCE: ... The 157TRAIL spacing increases rear axle width by 15mm (7.5mm per side), and yet heel clearance of our new designs has only moved outward by 1.5mm per side! Our new 157TRAIL rear-end remains the same or in some cases narrower than existing Boost 148 bikes currently on the market."
  • 1 3
 @coachphillip: I don't think people are set against it. After all it is just a hub. It is just the claims of 'benefits' aren't very well supported by data. And given we have bikes with 148 spacing with super short chainstays and bikes with 148 and 150 spacing used for DH....the claims are hard to back. I think mostly it is used because the frame designer was able to do something different. But arguing that something is better from an engineering standpoint may not be the same as what riders' perceive. And given there are dozens of awesome bikes that don't use that standard....
  • 3 0
 Beautiful bike... I’m having a love affair with my Endorphin 27.5 right now, can’t recommend Knolly highly enough. Nice company to deal directly with too!
  • 4 2
 Hey pinkbike.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Pinkbike is still Canadian right?
Knolly bikes is a Canadian company right?
Why are the prices in US dollars?
I've been seeing this trend here lately.
  • 1 0
 Knolly even does US pricing on their site... PB audience has far more US folks as well I'd wager.
  • 2 0
 V-Tach owner here. Always liked the look and feel of the "Four by Four" suspension design. Nice to finally see A long travel 29er from Knolly. This one goes on the list.
  • 2 1
 Always a bummer to see a rad new bike come out without a size small available. Am I the only one noticing this growing trend? Being 5'4" on a bike with a minimum 460mm reach is pretty absurd.
  • 5 0
 @MattJonesPhoto There have been several new models from other brands recently released where the small options were only available in 27.5. Changing the wheelsize changes many other things on the bike. It is unfair to call a bike with 27.5 wheels the same model as the 29'er.

Instead of a 29'er, I would recommend our Warden. You would be PERFECT for a small. The bike is offers progressive geometry with a seat tube short enough to allow you to run a 175mm dropper and a rear wheel that isn't going to burn your backside on every ride down.
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 It's almost as if a long travel 29er isn't the best choice for someone who is 5'4"
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 @KNOLLYBIKES: Where are the small Wardens? Honestly concerned that 2 inch longer WB would cause me to straighten out all my trails which would then lead to them becoming popular.
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 Excellent choice in tires for this bike. Most all AM/Enduro brawlers should have DD rear tire at least like this. EXO and EXO+ just doesn't cut it for this class of bike like most companies spec it as. Great job Knolly, bike looks dope!
At 5’10”, 32” inseam, I still split between your medium and large sizes though. The large sounds really long!
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 Still have mine, I love how it behaves in rowdy terrain (even with 26").
Gave it some new life with a DIY electric motor, earning its new name the "Chil-ectric".
I'm from Chile so it's also got that in there...hehehe.
A couple of pictures:
forums.mtbr.com/knolly/knolly-e-bike-1091779.html#post15010841
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 any idea the location of the video? the terrain looks pretty rad. sweet bike too!
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 Well i would certainly hope it was filmed in the chilcotins!
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 Whistler bike park and a few surrounding less travelled trails.
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 This would look rather nice next to my Fugitive LT Smile
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 new bike decided
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 so maybe this was answered somewhere and i missed it, what is changed on the frame to go from 151 to 167 travel?
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 You just change the rear shock to a longer stroke.
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 So where does that leave the Delirium? Was gonna upgrade this winter from my current 2nd gen Delirium, and now this makes me sooo confused!
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 Delirium is still in the lineup! Look for some new colours available this spring.
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 Shock size for each travel option?
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 Still trying to find this info as well.
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 According to the Geometry Geeks website, the 151 uses a 205 x 60 shock and the 167 uses a 205 x 65 shock.
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 Does anyone like the look of the rear linkage setup? I know looks aren't everything but I always thought it looked kinda funky.
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 It's nice to have a horst link that doesn't look like every other damn one though, isn't it?

I think they look rad. Demoed a FugitiveLT and that bike handles very well. Easy to adapt to. Not uber light but that frame is on par with a banshee prime or ripmo af in terms of weight.
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 Their marketing appeal seems to end at the North Shore? I've never seen one outside of B.C. anyhow. In Vancouver they are the bike that you see under the rad dudes, and the want is very high. Like Kona of the 90's or Rocky Mountain of the early 2000's.
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 @WasatchEnduro: I really don't cars much for it. I think that it looks a bit spindly, and while the bike looks to be of decent quality I can't seem to appreciate the looks of the frame as much as others on hear do... not trying to mash Knolly here folks I just never really clicked with this model in particular.

Having said that if it works well I would certainly ride one.
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 @50percentsure: Oh. Hmmm. Us Americans must just be strange then. If it's North Shore approved I should probably find one just to try out because of the fact I don't like it much. Good to know Beer
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 Check out the side profile of their most recent bikes. They've been able to carry a clean line from the seat stay through the top tube, which, to me, makes the bikes very aesthetically pleasing. My wife is very picky, and the look of my matte shiraz Fugitive LT has her wanting one. Also, as soon as you feel the bikes' small bump sensitivity, you won't care what they look like.
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 You'll like it when you swing a leg over it. I own a Knolly Warden, their claims are true, the way this suspension works is amazing.
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 @jcc0042: post a pick of that thing, matte shiraz had me tempted, but I went black.
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 @50percentsure: there's a bunch of them down here in the US lol, maybe 8 or 9 of them between my crew and I over here on the east coast. They're just such good bikes, especially for the terrain here. The Fugitive is the most capable bike I've ever ridden, it's wild. The P-Train review sounds a ton like it.
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 @Glenngineer: just added one to my profile. I'll get some better pictures up once my brake bleed kit arrives and I can shorten the hoses.
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 @cod51: it doesn't even make sense how good the Fugitive is. I'm coming from an Ibis Mojo HD4 and a Kona Process 153 before that, and those bikes' small bump compliance and overall ride quality don't come close to my Fugitive.
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 @50percentsure: I know of at least three outside of BC over here in the UK!!
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 @rjmogul: I will find one someday! I see naught but good comments for this bike, there must be a reason.

Also folks I am a bit surprised at all the negative props (I don't mind much) I wasn't trying to rain on your parade, and I will give it a go when I find one.
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 @cod51: Probably even more than you can count on two hands in the entire U.S.! Geek
Actually, I'm living here now, and haven't got to the other hand...
Back home you had to beat your way through them with a stick to get to the trailhead.
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 I have a warden and it grew on me. I love it now. @rosemarywheel
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 I live in south Florida and I ride one lol. A 180/160 warden @50percentsure:
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 @ricochetrabbit: Good! I also used to not like the look of the DeVinci rear swingarm on the newer Wilson's but now I think it looks awesome.
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 @50percentsure: bahahahaha, yeah there's certainly less of 'em down here. Still, super cool that there's so many more up north! Can't wait to get up there
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 @jcc0042: For real man, it's pretty unbelievable. Given the way 2020 was shaping up to be, I didn't bother fixing my dh bike up for this season and just rode the Fug instead. It loved it. And all the trail riding haha, I'm so blown away by it.
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 @50percentsure: Guess the 26” Chilcotin my son’s friend had and the Endorphin tha my buddy’s nephew is rising, both in sunny California don’t count.
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 Ditto, but it's the superboost and geometry that have been what kept me from trying a Fugitive LT in the past.

Don't love the looks either, but I'd still hit it if didn't come with the other baggage! Smile
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flag jesse-effing-edwards (Dec 3, 2020 at 7:18) (Below Threshold)
 Looks fragile to me in the back and uneccessarily complex. Long & thin LOOK flexy too, but I have faith in the Knollies to not make a weak bike based on where they ride.
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 @50percentsure: plenty Knolly’s in Australia. They work really well on the janky zero flow gnar of Sydney sandstone
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 Awesome.
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 No small option Frown sucks being short!
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 I like. How does leverage curve compare to the Fugitive LT? Is it just a Fugitive LT LT or does it feel completely different?
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 @joewlo Still fully progressive and able to run a coil shock. Different tubes, different shock size, different suspension tune, still a Knolly.
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 Frame only option?
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 Just spoke with them on the phone. They will have frame only options, both colors, and about 6 different shock options.
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 @teethandnails: Thank you...was looking at a Commencal frame but now I have hold up for a minutes.
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 @Ducimus: We didn't turn on the frame option, whoops. It's now live.
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 Perfect!!!
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 In hope they made enough frames.
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 Been waiting a while for a new bike from Knolly. This thing looks fun!
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 Holy moly! Love my 2020 Warden - the Chilly is going to be bad ass!!
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 The Mystery Bike is Forbidden's long travel bike.
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 Duh
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 The Mystery Bike is the new Nomad.
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flag diego-b (Dec 2, 2020 at 8:29) (Below Threshold)
 @BrambleLee: Maybe, but nobody cares about the mystery bike because nobody buys 27.5 anymore.
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 My mistake I believe the Forbidden is on 29 wheels so could be a new Nomad
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 @diego-b:
That’s just cause no one is making them anymore. F$;&in 29”ers ! I personally have 0 interest in owning one.
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 @Reignx08: agreed. I can’t believe in only a few yrs 29’ers have pretty much taken over, not many serious 27.5 choices left. Ironing out the trail/more traction/stability vs friskiness/maneuverability.. then I watch friday fails and it all makes sense
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 @emptybe-er:
Yeah who needs actual bike skills when you have huge wheels and flat trails.
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 @Reignx08: @emptybe-er: They are more rare these days but Knolly has 3 new serious 27.5 bikes (Warden, Warden LT & Delirium).
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 @islandforlife:
I’ve got a 2018 27.5 warden, fantastic bike and even has a threaded bottom bracket. I won’t even get started on press fit bottom brackets. ????
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 @Reignx08: Yep Knolly keeping that threaded BB is nice, that's for sure.
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 @knollybikes yew!
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 Where's the side view so we can check that STA at ride height...??? Smile
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 Please make a A DH rig again
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 It’s a coming...guaranteed
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 I came here to read the anti super boost tirades and I’m blown away that there is not a single one lol
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 ..
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 Sweet. Probably also helps that you were shopping for a Meta, and not a Knolly.
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