MicroSHIFT's New 10-Speed Advent X Drivetrain is Only $167 - Pond Beaver 2020 (Updated with Video)

Apr 9, 2020
by Daniel Sapp  


Last year, MicroSHIFT debuted their 9-Speed Advent drivetrain. At $125 for a cassette, derailleur, and shifter, the drivetrain was affordable. It also was functional, durable, and dependable. Even with months of testing, it proved to be reliable and worry-free; it just didn't have the biggest range of gearing, with 42t being the largest cog.

Addressing the range while keeping all of the benefits of compatibility durability and low price was key for MicroSHIFT in developing the new wider range 10-speed system that they have now rolled out, Advent-X...a 10-speed 11-48 range drivetrain that sells for $167, as tested.

Advent X Details

• 10-speed 11-48 range
• Dual-carrier aluminum cassette
• Compatible with any 10-speed chain/chainrings
• HG Driver compatible
• 857g total weight
• Clutch derailleur
• MSRP: $142-$167 USD depending on shifter and cassette
• Available now
microSHIFT.com




Design and Details

Advent worked exactly how it should for what it was, it just wasn't quite competitive enough with the wider range systems that SRAM and Shimano both offer. Even at that, Advent won a lot of business both aftermarket and OE with brands like Giant, Specialized, Cannondale, and Marin choosing to spec it on more affordable builds.

Advent X adds a larger gear along with some refinement to the entire line, making it MicroSHIFT's top-tier group, so let's look at each of the elements on their own:


10-speed cassette: The new 10-speed cassette sports a wider 11-48 tooth range, a big step up from the original 42 teeth. With this range, the team at MicroSHIFT believes that riders have enough gearing to get over just about anything, and I have to agree. While the older 42t worked well, it still lacked just a little bit of low-end range, especially in steeper terrain or on longer rides when that bail-out gear can mean the difference between pushing on foot or climbing on the bike.

With the cassette being one of the most critical areas to cut weight, MicroSHIFT decided to make their higher-end cassette a little different. It still fits on a standard HG freehub body, but it uses a dual-stage aluminum carrier - two pieces with several cogs on them, and then the final four gears stack on individually, just as many other HG style cassettes do.



The dual-stage cassette weighs in at just 424g...respectable for $65.
The cassette, as I have here with an aluminum carrier tips the scale at 424g. That's respectable for a budget system and less than Shimano's XT, which weighs about 470g, while SRAM's GX is 448g. There is an option to purchase the wide-range cassette with a steel carrier which knocks a further $20 off of the price but adds a weight penalty.

Steps between the gears are very similar to the original Advent drivetrain, with the addition of a larger ring. While they could have added more gears, that would have made it very difficult to deliver within the weight or price that they wanted, so ten it was. The dual aluminum spider cassette sells for $64.99 USD. and the steel carrier option sells for $44.99 USD.


Shifter: The shifter for Advent X is totally new, just like the cassette. There are two tiers for the shifter, the basic Trail version, without a traction pad, sells for $24.99 and the Trail Pro with a traction pad is $29.99 USD.

Compared to the original Advent shifter, the thumb paddle has updated ergonomics and the "Pro" version has a fancy silicone pad on it. The position of the paddle is not adjustable, but does fall into a pretty neutral spot. Riders can shift up multiple gears at once and then down one gear at a time.
The Trail Pro shifter features a nice silicone pad and a neutral position.


Derailleur: The new Advent X derailleur is quite similar to the previous Adven. with a clutch system that can be disengaged for removing the wheel via a switch on the body of the derailleur.

It uses a ratchet and pawl system, just like most hubs, but it's different from other major clutch systems that use a friction sleeve. The tension of the Advent's clutch is managed by a friction washer stack that is tightened by a single Torx bolt. It's quick to adjust and it's also simple to take apart if it ever needs to be cleaned or repaired.
The derailleur uses a clutch system that can be switched off and on and is easy to service.

Fitment on the bars, even with Shimano brakes, is good.

First Impressions

I’ve had a few rides on the drivetrain thus far and have been very impressed with how it performs. Shifting from the original Advent has been improved, and the wider range of gearing works totally fine. In addition, setting up/dialing in the drivetrain is a piece of cake.

Everything feels smooth and the interface with the shifter is comfortable, although I would like to see a Matchmaker-style option to help with bar clutter and open up more positons for placement as it is, some riders may find it a tad limiting, depending on where they like to run their brakes and shifter.

Over the coming months, I'll continue to put in miles on the drivetrain to see how it fares long-term.



Pinkbike Pond Beaver 2020






288 Comments

  • 271 1
 This is huge. Incredibly affordable 1x with a proper gear range. I really hope they get OEM deals with big companies and this starts to replace the crappy 2x and 3x systems that still come on $500 starter bikes. Moreover, if this proves to be less finicky than SX and NX, then its a huge win in my book. The 12 speed systems are really sensitive to chainline, b-screw tension, and cable tension. Hopefully this is as easy to setup as old 10 speed was.
  • 79 1
 Looks like I'm going to replace my heavy AF NX cassette and sloppy shifter.
  • 8 0
 @Primo123: I just put NX on my girlfriend's bike last season... and it was largely a headache. This seems like it may be a better alternative... and I could probably sell the NX to someone else.
  • 9 2
 @bikekrieg Yes man! A friend of mine just getting into MTB bought a Vitus Nucleus with a 2x drivetrain on it and it's just brought the nightmare all back to me of what it used to be like.

1X drivetrains are vastly more user friendly than 2X, and as you say, hopefully this new Microshift one will make 1X viable for budget bikes.
  • 41 1
 SWEET JESUS THEY MADE THE PERFECT DRIVETRAIN (if it goes good)
  • 21 132
flag mhoshal (Apr 9, 2020 at 13:37) (Below Threshold)
 Lmao "crappy 2x" ive run both 1x and 2x and I think 1x is dog shit compared to my 2x setup. Taking the sprung weight and making it unsprung weight is the stupidest idea that was ever thought up. If you don't like 2x you just dont know how to setup a front derailleur plain and simple because my slx has been flawless for 8 plus years. 1x literally has zero benefits over 2x.
  • 30 3
 @mhoshal: Eh...seems like an overstatement. I could point out how it's more awkward to roll down a fast hill in the big ring into a steep climb and then have to shift to the small ring upfront while shifting to a smaller cog in the back to get a smooth cadence transition than it is to simply dump a ton of gears in the back, but maybe that's just down to technique. What's not down to technique is how the ring sizes affect your suspension. One ring size makes dialing in anti-squat characteristics much easier for frame designers. With two rings you will usually have too much in the small ring and too little in the big ring. At best one ring will be decent and the other waaay too much or too little. This, not shifting, is where 1x has an unassailable advantage.
  • 54 0
 THIS. Whose damn idea was it that we need 12, 13, even 11 gears?!!! Maybe for a XC champ, but it’s just a chain line and derailleur adjust nightmare for most. I want 9, 10 gears tops with 11-48. If this proves reliable, I would have to call it the perfect drivetrain.
  • 6 3
 I'm glad there more options, but with Deore 1x10 being such a cheap setup and works amazing, not sure why people don't just get that
  • 1 0
 @bmied31: How much does it come out to w cassette, der, shifter, and chain? Trying to decide b/t this and the MShift.
  • 2 0
 @bmied31:

it doesn’t really matter, but this will probably still offer more range.

I know Deore can actually clear a 46T cassette without any problems, but this is probably good for 50T, and from what I have read, may offer crisper shifting. Idk.
  • 4 9
flag nurseben (Apr 9, 2020 at 15:47) (Below Threshold)
 @A-HIGHLY-EDUCATED-PROFESSIONAL: Yup, ten speed was the ideal, just didn't have the range, this is gonna work pretty good.

I run a 26t x 11-51 12sp Shimano XT, but I'm sure I could get by with three fewer teeth on my big cog.
  • 3 0
 @bmied31: Deore 1x10 not that cheap and only rated to something like 42t cog.
  • 4 2
 @DirtbagMatt: I couldn't agree more. My Stumpy came with 11 gears and I've only ever used 8 of them. Then after every crash I have to tweak the derailleur back to its perfect sitting point because the tolerances are so fine.
  • 10 0
 @alreadyupsidedown:
You can actually hack together a wide range system really easy out of Shimano parts. 10, 11 and 12 speed all use the same amount of cable pull so you can throw an older 10 or 11 speed shifter, with a 12 speed slx derailleur so that it is low cost( or a M7000, M8000 Der if you don't need super range) and then a cassette that has the number of gears the shifter has. Rumor has it, SRAM 11 and 12 speed will shift Shimano 10, 11 and 12 speed derailleurs just fine as well. Then I know BOX shifters were able to be swapped with Shimano when BOX 1 came out so I bet all their stuff is compatible as well.

It is pretty awesome that there is actually a moment of cross compatibility again.
  • 15 0
 @nurseben: 26x51 is loooooooow
  • 2 1
 @vapidoscar: it managed 46t fine and can be bought on eBay for $100 with a generic narrow wide chain ring. This looks great though but Shimano could dominate market with updated deore or if they pitched it as a cheap 1x10 setup
  • 3 2
 Don't be a dick, save some pound.
  • 1 1
 Shimano 10spd der , cassette and shifter would be the almost the same price if not cheaper. Even XT
  • 5 2
 @bikekrieg: I'm a mechanic 23 years and NX eagle is the worst drivetrain by far. It DOESN'T work. And you see it everywhere. It's all about the number 12 and is far to expensive for the quality.
  • 1 1
 @MeloBikeCO: The only SRAM that will fit Shimano is the garbage NX/SX crap. The both use the same HG spline hub.

This setup is a win to me. My old Kona that my son rides will be getting this. I put the wide range sun race cassette along with XT shifters on my wifes bike when I converted it to single speed. It has been nothing but noise. I WILL NOT dial in and it either rubs on the low gears or the tall gears. If it works well on the Kona, I can see a trial of the cassette at least...
  • 2 1
 @mhoshal: you ride hard through the stuff around where I'm from (Pisgah) and 2x might as well be 0x. Can't keep the chain on for shit. Might be fine for strolling though.
  • 3 1
 @MeloBikeCO: There have definitely been all kinds of cool setups, for those of us with a mind for tinkering.

The real win here is for non-technical riders... Pretty awesome that you can now walk into a bike shop, and have an affordable, reliable wide range system installed, with a warranty.
  • 3 1
 @Poulsbojohnny:
I think you are talking about cassettes specifically. I'm saying you can get an old XT 10 speed shifter to shift a 12 speed derailleur,(SRAM or Shimano) and use this or other wide range 10 speed cassettes.

The problem it sounds like you are describing might be due to the range of the derailleur not being big enough for the range of the cassette. The 11 speed XT and SLX derailleurs will barely handle an 11x46, the 10 speeds even less. But you could slap a 12 spd slx derailleur on that set up and it should shift a lot better.
  • 2 1
 @alreadyupsidedown:
I agree 100% the Microshift setup looks like a great off the shelf option. I actually regret buying a 12 speed SLX set up for my wife's bike when this Microshift groupset is available. She is a novice rider and definitely wouldn't mind the slightly larger jumps between gears.

I just really like that the tinkering option actually exists. I am currently running a very slightly hacked together set up on my gravel bike and am tempted to go a little further with it. I currently shift an 11 speed XT rear derailleur with a 105 shifter through a Tanpan. My current gearing is a 46-30 front and an 11-42 rear. Tempted to keep the 105 shifter and put a 12 speed rear derailleur, go 1x with a 36 or 38 up front and a 9or10-50 11speed cassette. Then I can get all the gears. For my gravel bike it goes up really steep logging roads but is also used on paved commutes so having a really wide range is pretty nice.
  • 2 0
 @A-HIGHLY-EDUCATED-PROFESSIONAL: A HIGHLY EDUCATED GUESS WOULD BE; YES THEY HAVE.
  • 2 0
 @RobertBro: I gotta say SX is worse mate
  • 1 0
 @Poulsbojohnny: xt sg with 11-42 has been flawless. Learn to adjust the low limit screw and tighten the b screw all the way in. It’s butter.
  • 2 0
 Looks like a great system for the money, yes, but only time will tell. My past experiences with Microshift products have been almost universally awful. That being said, well run companies evolve - sometimes in surprising ways - and who is to say Microshift can't be one of these success stories? I'm keen to try Advent X and personally hope its performance and reliability blows the evil abomination that is SRAM SX out of the water. It already does weight wise.
  • 4 1
 @nurseben: Jesus, are you 80?
  • 2 0
 @Sasquatchumus: Chain Line is the number 1 headache in my riding world even on 1x9. Don’t make the cogs even closer together, Component Mfgs, DONT DO IT!!!
  • 78 0
 Looks like a great system. Also appreciate the irony of seeing it on a full carbon everything Pivot w XTR.
  • 26 0
 Was going to point that out too. Drivetrain costs half the price of front brake.
  • 11 0
 @dglass: that’s a good thing! I’m lucky to get a full year out of any derailleur or cassette. The more gear spread it has, the more quickly the derailleur dies. I’d love a decent alternative for my main trail bike that sees lots of southern New England winter usage.
  • 9 0
 @DHhack: Seems like a perfect fatbike groupset haha. Cheap and replaceable.
  • 4 0
 Haha, I was going to post the same but then saw your comment. That bike pictured is definitely $8,999 at a minimum. Err at least it was before they swapped drivetrains. :-)
  • 8 0
 Meh, who cares. If SRAM put their log on it, people would be going nuts. It all comes out of Taiwan, so as long as the function is good, it will sell. I can see this being the death of the garbage NX line that SRAM is shifting.

The big deal for active riders is weight too. This comes in just under a GX group set:

Advent x 857g (1.8lb)
SRAM GX 869g (1.9lb)
Shimano XT 860g (1.8lb)
And the mother in law, NX group set, a whopping 1,063g. That is 2.3 pounds!

I run SRAM GX and I love it. For anyone who got shafted with an NX group set on their new bike or anyone with an older Shimano drive train who wants to go wider range, this is a no brainer.
  • 2 0
 An unintended marketing masterstroke? The power of association and first impressions...
  • 62 0
 after running microshift advent in place of my xt and gx 1x11 groupsets I'm pretty sold on this, It looks like the new shifter is a big improvement as well and the extra range will be great! No complaints from their 1x9 setup so I'm excited to get this
  • 6 0
 Agreed. I bought their 9-speed setup last year, and it works exactly as you would want a drivetrain to work. It's a great product, and for the price it's an amazing product! I can only imagine that their new drivetrain is even better.
  • 5 1
 I feel bad running the 9sp Advent on my S works Enduro frame but it just works, and for the price? I've been looking at getting a bigger gear tho recently. This looks like the answer.
  • 1 0
 how much are the sram and shimano equivalents to this, for shifter derailleur, and cassette?
  • 14 0
 @will54869: Sunrace 11-46, 10 speed cassette: 50 €. Shimano SLX RD-7000 medium cage: 55 €. Shimano XT 11 speed shifter: 30 €. No shame nor glory, job done.
  • 3 0
 Edit: obviously I meant 10 speed shifter... sorry for the typo.
  • 3 0
 @Tasso75: Shimano 10speed stuff has actually come up in price a little over the last couple years in my experience as the slow production
  • 2 0
 @jj12jj: Idk, those were the prices I paid three months ago, online. I didn't like the huge 37-46 gap on the Shimano cassette, so I bought Sunrace. However, this Advent groupset seems really good.
  • 2 0
 @Tasso75: This is exactly what I have on my bike and it has been flawless.
It was an old 10 speed 11-42 XT and I upgraded the derailleur to 11 speed and added the sunrace. Kept the old 10 speed shifter.
  • 3 0
 Yeah, I had an Advent drivetrain for about 6 months and it worked great. I sold the bike it was on, but I will buy another Advent drivetrain down the road. Pair it with a Garbaruk Cassette and you become the Drivetrain King.
  • 2 0
 I've got their original 1x9 setup on my hardtail and it's been super nice, easy to setup and maintain. Got SX on my new FS, now I know what I'll be replacing it with in the future. I love having bigger jumps and more durable gears. Although the SX has been working great so far as well.
  • 1 0
 @Tasso75: replied to the wrong comment somehow, didn’t mean to criticize
  • 1 0
 @jj12jj: No problem!
  • 43 0
 I was mad stoked for this review. Idk why people wanna she’ll put all this money for 12 speed when all a lot of us do is spin up and rail down. This is on my next build for sure. Very few downsides.
  • 5 2
 Along those lines: I wonder if a non evenly spaced cassette would be worth while. For example the bottom 4 gears are closely spaced to give you plenty of options for climbing and then it jumps up a bit and the next 2 gears are intended for rolling terrain, and then it jumps gain for 4 closely spaced descending gears.
  • 37 2
 I always end up grabbing 2 or three gears at a time, I almost never change one gear at a time. Wider steps would be really good for my style of riding.
  • 3 0
 I was going to send this link to you haha and upvoted yo ur comment before I knew it was you. This is amazing
  • 2 0
 @ClaytonMarkin: I think a lot of us feel this way. It seems like the only reason for 12 spd is to allow for proper ramping of the chain between the 4-5 gears I actually use.
  • 1 0
 @mtmc99: always thought the same. Would love to try something like that
  • 2 0
 @ClaytonMarkin: This is so true. I like the range of my Eagle or Shimano's 12sp...but I definitely don't need all the wasted gears in-between. They even become a hassle when needing to bang those extra shifts quickly as you pointed out. An ultra-light (just because we only have 10cogs!), wide range 10sp would be ideal if they could get the shifting really smooth (along with shifting under load). 10-46 (or 4Cool would be killer and still have a bailout gear. No one would ever need 12sp and we'd only have to shift once.
  • 2 0
 @ClaytonMarkin: So much this. If only some big guy put out a 10speed, 11-50 cassette, I would surely give it a try. My trails are filled with sudden gradient changes, forcing one to multiple upshift and downshift like madness.
  • 2 0
 @Tasso75: Isn't 11-48 close enough to 11-50? Only 4% off.
  • 2 0
 @WishIWazFaster: Yes of course, but I would be upgrading from my actual 11-46 10speed setup, so the Advent 2 extra teeth are not worth the hassle imho. Going all way to 50t instead... Don't get me wrong, if I were building a bike from scratch, the Advent would be one of the best options.
  • 36 0
 Wow. Cheap, light, seems to work. I can see putting this on my next build.
  • 10 8
 I wouldn´t call it light, less heavy maybe? But for the price it´s impressive for sure.
  • 28 1
 @Mondbiker: Lighter than XT by a few grams? Sure its no weight weenie setup but lighter than XT is impressive.
  • 8 0
 @ratedgg13: lighter than 12 speed xt. You can still buy 11 speed xt no problem for the nearly same range, less weight, and not much more cash.
  • 3 2
 @Mondbiker: We live in a spoil world. I'll drink one less beer the day before a ride. Save weight, cheaper and healthy !

Seems like a nice drivetrain BTW. Would love to try one soon.
  • 11 0
 @QuebecPoulin: Come on dude...drink that beer Smile Lets not get crazy
  • 7 0
 @Svinyard: I know I know. Drinking it right now. Cheers fellas !
  • 1 0
 @QuebecPoulin: I in fact will not drink one less beer.
  • 23 0
 Paging Andrew Major ... oh wait wrong site ...
  • 2 0
 Sir Min Max
  • 16 0
 I have a gx/nx eagle build on my patrol, 12 speeds seem a bit overkill. The range is good, but some of the steps between gears are barely noticeable, (what’s the point?) A more widely spaced 10 speed seems like a sweet spot with the advantage of lighter weight and stronger chains.
  • 16 0
 Dayum. Been looking around at lower end builds with good suspension and this would be a good kit to replace SX/NX crap. Will miss the 2 gear downshift from my XT shifter though.
  • 2 0
 Is the spacing of the new cassette compatible to Shimano and Sram 10-speed spacing? that would mean you could use Shimano shifters with double downshift?
  • 11 0
 @FR33DOMdotCOM: The cassette spacing is the same, but the shifter pull is different. So, you can run a normal 10-speed chain, but you have to pair the ADVENT X derailleur with the matching shifter.
  • 1 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT: any chance you could let us know what the pull-ratio is?
  • 5 0
 @skylerd: pull ratio is not really a thing anymore -- wide range mountain bike groups do not have equal distance between all the index points. All the index points have to be aligned, and the total cable pull has to be the same. Sorry!
  • 4 0
 This would make a sweet upgrade for that Vitus Mythique they tested recently. $160 seems well worth it to knock out the one major concern I have with it's spec.
  • 1 0
 @FR33DOMdotCOM:
A Shimano 10 speed shifter will shift a 10, 11, or 12 speed Shimano derailleur and hit all the cogs just fine.
  • 1 0
 @gibspaulding: crazy how after the pink bike test, the vitus Mythique is almost completely sold out in all sizes and trim levels.
  • 1 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT: awesome, thanks man
  • 1 0
 @MeloBikeCO: Yes, that´s what I was thinking. I have a Saint shifter that I really like ...
  • 15 0
 I would love to see this on lower cost builds as opposed to SRAM SX. Lower weight, lower cost, almost similar range. A win for riders with regular sized wallets.
  • 14 0
 this is awesome. more of this, bike industry, less $500 cog wheels.
  • 11 1
 Looks great! I am still on a 36-11 10spd deore. This looks to fit the bill perfect. Range price and compatibility with me wheels. Props to microshift Smile
  • 2 1
 Maybe take a look at the Garbaruk 10speed kit. Bit expensive- but really light for 11-45 setup
  • 2 0
 @NotNamed: there is a deore lvl 11-42 cassette. Im running that with a 11s chain and a zee+rad cage rear mech. Works absolutely flawlessly.
  • 8 0
 How does that cable meet the clamp? Previous generation Shimano (M8000, M7000, etc.) had issues with gradually cutting the cable over time because the angle of the cable where it meets the clamp changed as you shifted, weakening it at the clamp and causing the cable to snap.

It looks similar on this. Can anyone confirm? Does the cable on this derailleur directly go into the clamp without any kind of pulley/etc to maintain its angle?
  • 21 0
 Our cable clamp area has changed a lot since our first gen clutch derailleurs. The angle relief is now built into the clamp surface and the cable groove is a lot deeper and more forgiving than on the first gen. These improvements actually started with ADVENT 9 speed and continue on through ADVENT X 10 speed.
  • 9 2
 I don't want to write this review...but I must. I wanted to love the original drivetrain (advent non-X). I hate more gears and the exact precision required to have things run smooth in 12 speed drivetrains. I like cheap stuff...but this is both cheap in dollars and cheap in durability.

The original Avent wasn't robust enoguh for mountain bikes. Gravel bikes, cruiser, but not mountain bikes. Why? WEAK AS HELL. I bent maybe 3 derailleurs in 3 months. I've bent 3 derailleurs in 10 years prior, maybe longer.

I literally seated climbing destroyed the cassette by bending the 42t...I'm relatively strong but again...not that strong.

So, unless they strengthened things up...I would remain skeptical.
  • 18 0
 3 derailleurs in 3 months is really bad! I'm sorry to hear that, something like that really shouldn't happen. Did you contact our warranty department? We've got a 4 year warranty on all our stuff. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
  • 7 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT:

Gus! Thanks for the response! I honestly didn't contact you guys because I didn't want to swap any more derailleurs, and the cassette was the nail in the coffin for me. It wasn't the money that mattered, it was the "set it and forget it" I was looking for and didn't achieve.

Have improvements been made from a strength standpoint? Or am I just an unlucky/fat hack?
  • 58 0
 @y0bailey: haha sounds like a little of both Wink Nah, just kidding, seems like you're super unlucky -- let me DM you my email so we can make things right.
  • 38 0
 Update for anyone reading this. These guys are legit. If stuff goes wrong they will make it right. I'm back on the wagon! LOL.
  • 51 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT: ^^^ This exchange is 4000% percent better than most product personnel comments in the PB comment area. Seriously, Microshift, you just got my consideration for future bike builds.
  • 2 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT: how do you add products to your cart on the site? Very confusing
  • 4 0
 @CycleKrieg: haha, kind of being damned by faint praise there. But yeah, we try to hard to be easy to deal with!
  • 2 0
 I'm in the same boat regarding my desire for inexpensive and simple components. I ran my 1x9 Advent group successfully all last year with no bent/broken parts! I will say that I was using a Sram 9spd cassette because I prefer a smaller range on my mountain bike.

I hope your luck is better this year! Sounds like the guys at microSHIFT are doing right by you.
  • 4 1
 @Mntneer: we don't offer direct online sales. I know some of the online shops are a bit behind on setting this stuff up because of, y'know, the virus. In the meantime our US distributor has it in stock, so you should be able to order it through your local bike shop.
  • 6 0
 @CycleKrieg: I just can't wait to show back up to the weekly group ride (once the covid-world calms down) on a microshift drivetrain again.

The amount of shit I will receive will be unmatched...but this time I can prove them wrong!
  • 14 0
 @y0bailey: Haha. You should have seen the look when I showed up with Advent 1x9 paired with eeWings!
  • 12 0
 @maximumunicorn: pics or it didn't happen.

Do the kids still say that?
  • 3 0
 @Mntneer: Most bike shops don’t keep their stuff in stock, but both of the two bike shops in town that I have asked were able to order MicroShift parts for me.
  • 3 0
 @y0bailey: This looks like the perfect group to upgrade a bike or as bombproof fat bike setup.

As little as my wife rides, we aren't going spend a lot of money on her mountain bike. But this looks perfect as way to upgrade a low end bike pretty quick. On a fat bike, the problem that the cash goes into frame and wheels/tires and often the bikes end up with low end (SX/NX) shifting setups have shown some issues with typical snow situations. A 10 speed setup that a) works and b) isn't heavy and c) isn't going to cause heart palpitations if you trash a derailer on a hidden snow covered trail adjacent rock sounds good.
  • 2 0
 Damn man, you sure you set it up properly? I've got their original advent on one of my bikes. I'm 200lbs and not light on my gear at all and haven't had any of these issues. And I originally went to the advent because I snapped my last Shimano derailleur hahaha!
  • 1 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT: Uploaded the pics to my account! They do great on the Banshee Paradox. Also running the 1x9 setup with road shifters on my gravel bike by the way. Great stuff!
  • 5 0
 I've put 1200 miles on a road group set from microshift with zero problems. It was lighter than dura ace and shifted loud but reliable. Ergonomics were perfect for me.

I'd have no hesitation buying this. My 10 speed Shimano stuff +both XT and XTR outperforms both my 11 speed and 12 speed stuff. Just stronger and more reliable but always a battle to get bigger rear cogs to work (one up rad cages, wolf tooth host links, syntace cassettes). This solves all those problems at a price that's unbelievable. Good work microshift. I'd buy it today if I could figure out how on the website.
  • 2 0
 You have to order it through your LBS. Most decent shops will have a distributor that can get MicroShift, and every time I have ordered parts they have shown up in just a couple days.
  • 4 0
 Seems like a solid deal. If I were to build a budget hardtail right now which I have considered in the past then this would for sure be top of my list for drive trains. Can't beat 167 bucks for a solid drive train with decent performance.
  • 3 0
 The only way to beat it is by buying their 9 speed setup. But the jump from a 42 tooth big cog to a 48 tooth big cog that comes on the 10 speed is probably worth the $40.
  • 4 0
 That @VHS vid was awesome....

Anyway as 99% of us consumers are enthusiast riders rather than semi pro / pro I really think 10 speed was the best, unless you have an insane range like 9 - 50 something teeth the ratios are pointlessly close.
  • 4 0
 Seems good to me. Cant understand why theres suck a lack of inovation for the eleven speed casette size because twelve is just to much and too much weight and to fidley. Shimano only do 42 to 11 in eleven speed sureley someone can make say 44-10 for example
  • 1 0
 Shimano does offer an 11-46 in 11spd. People like to complain about uneven shifting, but I’ve never had a problem.

Shimano Deore M6000 10spd is about 3 years old now, and due for a replacement- maybe next year? It will be interesting to see if it moves from 10 to 11 speeds, and what sort of range it will have. I’m sure Shimano is tired of seeing NX and SX eat up all the low end performance bikes.

I predict M6100 will become a true “1x first” drivetrain, but stay with the classic HG driver to keep costs low.

Or- Maybe I’m wrong, and we will see Shimano go all in on Microspline. Maybe they will even jump to 12 speeds to counter SX, though that’s not really Shimano’s style. No matter what, the next Deore will be one to watch.
  • 5 1
 I give it a couple years until everyone decides you only need 7-9 speed and that 12 is overkill. 26 will then make a comeback with shorter reach and steeper HTA. It will be so trendy
  • 1 0
 12 is overkill. I’m running 1x9 on three different bikes and it’s all I need. Now, I must admit, two are full rigid and are for urban/light gravel but they work flawlessly. The other is a converted flat bar roadie. And two are 26ers. One is a 98 Zaskar running old XT with a raceface 1x ring and the other is my 90 GT Xizang running MicroShift Marvo (or mezzo?). Anywho, I can average 15mph over 35 mile rides with them. I’m a big dude and on a good day can average 16.5 on one of my road bikes—so running 15 on a rigid 26er 1x9 is sweet. 9 speed is cheaper and stronger and easier to tune than higher gears. I’m equally as fast on my 2x9 ultegra than I am on 2x11 ultegra. I’m running 1x11 SLX on one of my hardtails and prefer the nine speed.

I have too many bikes!
  • 4 0
 Yo, What material is that derailleur made out of? Is it plastic composite like Sram's cheap derailleurs? Or Stamped steel? Alloy Castings? That is kind of a good detail to know about in the review of a drivetrain...
  • 10 0
 Mostly aluminum alloy, with a little bit of steel on the back half of the main body for stiffness. The clutch cover is the only plastic part other than the pulley wheels.
  • 4 0
 According to the website.. 'Full metal construction'.

So that means alloy castings instead of plastic for the top and AND bottom body/pivots, which is a huge win over Sram's over-priced plastic crap.

Outer link on the parallelogram is cast alloy, and to my eye, (based on their product photography) the inner link is stamped metal of some sort, probably steel. Cage must be stamped alloy to reach these weight numbers.
  • 3 0
 This sounds awesome, would love a comparison between MicroSHIFT 10spd 11-48t v. BOX 9spd 11-46t! My only concern is my 1-week trial of MicroShift's road group which was horrendous, but I can forgive and forget in the name of getting fewer and cheaper gears.
  • 4 0
 Done and done. Ca't wait to replace my sram nx cassette and shifter. Gosh the cassette is so heavy. This stuff looks promising. NO BS
  • 3 0
 This is definitely my next drive train. I'm on a Shimano 10sp 11-42(sunrace) setup now, would like that extra range and not heavier. That cassette is very nice weight and price! I don't need more gears. Good job microshift.
  • 1 0
 What deore? Deore m6000 rd works well with 11-46 cassette.
  • 1 0
 @Marasdfg: i have a zee derailleur with a rad r cage, Saint shifter. I have been using these for over 5yrs now and I the performance is lower now from a crash bending the shifter..... Still works though. I would need a new derailleur and want a not bent shifter to use the larger cassette like this.
  • 1 0
 @joelsman: hmm I don't know why I assumed you were using Deore. Anyhow one of my bikes has deore m6000 with 11-46 cassette and it shifts without any issues. My other bike has zee with 11-36 cassette and 28 chainring and that is very usable too
  • 2 0
 Wait... so I can grab multiple HIGHER gears at once but not LOWER gears? I nearly never want that. I want to be able to dump multiple gears when hitting a big climb. If I need to shift to a higher gear I am never in a rush.
  • 6 0
 I think the writer means physically 'up the cassette' (lower gear) when they say 'multiple shifts up'. I agree it's kind of confusing, but I'm willing to bet it works the way we want, just like every other typical trigger shifter.
  • 2 0
 @alreadyupsidedown: so you shift up to a lower gear? Got it!
  • 3 0
 @arandomJohn: In a physical sense. But I still think of it as downshifting.
  • 2 0
 Hi microshift. :-) Youre really hard to find here in France... :-/ there are just cheap 7 speeds models on entry level bikes here....

Its sad, it would sound perfect for me !

I searched for an advent gravel build but I was impossible to find the group here... :-/
  • 1 0
 They sell some microshift stuff at Decathlon in the UK, so might be a worth a look there?
  • 1 0
 some of the German online shops carry microShift stuff, you might need to search around a bit but I think you should find what you need. Bike24 and Bike-components could be a good start
  • 2 0
 I've been overall quite happy with the 9sp group on my enduro bike. This looks perfect for trail use. Even better, they seem to have addressed my main quibble with the 9sp version by offsetting the shifter clamp for better placement of the shift paddles. The previous version had them poking knuckles when clamped on the outboard of your brake, and just a bit tricky to reach when clamped inboard.
  • 4 0
 We spent a lot of time optimizing the shifter position on this thing. Also, the fact that it's all thumb actuated instead of index-thumb helped us get the shifter out of the way.
  • 1 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT: Have you got any plans for a matchmaker/I-spec version?
  • 7 0
 @commental: there are patents in the way of that, unfortunately. Shimano and SRAM are usually pretty friendly about that sort of thing though Wink
  • 2 0
 Also a great drivetrain for a kids bike. They're almost guaranteed to be horrible out of the box. I recently put NX Eagle on my son's bike and he's climbing ridiculous grades now, but this looks cheaper (less expensive) and lighter. Bummer.
  • 2 0
 This will likely end up being one of those "cheap on paper products". It has a really nice RRP but a crappy distribution. So if you'll ever be able to get it anywhere it will be at RRP. And you can get SLX shifter, chain, trigger and cassette kits for that money so why bother with this?

Same with MRP, X-Fusion, RST and all the other "affordable suspension" brands. Might be different in the Amerocas though...
  • 1 0
 I agree, but don’t forget a lot of that cheap XT and SLX is grey-import product. Shimano has started to crack down on this practice, and enforce their RRP/MSRPs. It’s no longer possible to order Shimano parts from CRC at 60% off in North America.... You have to go to AliExpress or Chinese eBay to get those deals. (Probably no warranty...) I know there are European online retailers still selling for cheap, but that won’t last forever.

Complete bikes are probably more important in the grand scheme, and that’s where Advent will come out ahead of Shimano. SLX and Advent may be similar prices to buy aftermarket, but the wholesale costs of Advent will be drastically lower, allowing it to appear on much lower priced complete bikes. There’s a reason SRAM NX/SX is on every single cheap bike- SRAM is clearly able to offer it much cheaper at wholesale than SLX.

If Shimano is smart, they will counter with a true wide-range Deore M6100, and destroy everyone.
  • 2 0
 The return of the QUICK LINK!!!

I'll go back to 10sp just for the sake of having chains with a quick link which is actually QUICK and can be opened with human hands. 11 and 12speed systems made the name "quick link" a pathetic oxymoron.

(i've seen cases where half a dozen riders with about a century's worth of combined experience hunching over a bike trying to pry open one of those links like chimps with makeshift tools Smile )
  • 2 0
 Man, this is great..! I’ve been using the 9spd Advent since it came out and it is flawless; and I’ve ridden the shit out of it. Its so good and suits my riding so well I’m not even considering the “upgrade”. Such a relief to see a company catering to the real bike riders of the world...
  • 2 0
 This, so much this! I went with 1e speed Shimano on a new build but if I knew tis was coming I would have gone this way. My gx eagle I am be finniky AF and I don't really need 13 speeds. When it comes time to upgrade the wifeys Fuse I'm gonna set her up on this. Gotta love more options!
  • 4 0
 The 9-speed Advent works great. I'll definitely consider this on my next build!
  • 3 0
 Been running the original 1X9 Advent group since last year and it's on point. Great price, tough as nails, easy install and no fuss. Super stoked on this new group!
  • 1 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT

Can we mix and match any of these components with other brands shifters/deraileurs? Lots of us have old parts around, and would love to try a 10 speed wide range drivetrain. And even though $167 for the whole thing is cheap, its even cheaper without having to buy a shifter/deraileur Smile .

IE, I'd love to try the cassette with my SRAM 11 speed NX Deraileur, and 10 speed XT Shifter. I'd gain range, lose weight, all for the price of only a cassette.

Is something like that likely to work, or am I taking crazy pills for even daydreaming about it?
  • 4 0
 Crazy pills all day Smile Every derailleur has different kinematics, and every shifter is optimized for that. Especially with wide range MTB drivetrain, you have to get not only the end-to-end total pull right, but all the indexes have to be in the same place too. Now, maybe you can mix and match and get some stuff to kinda work? There's a whole bunch of that kind of thing on the internet. But it won't work as well as pairing our shifter with our derailleur.
  • 2 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT:

Gah, I knew it! (the crazy pills).

I figured I'd ask either way, in the off chance that you guys had tested it with other configurations.

Thanks for giving us more options Smile .
  • 6 0
 Can we buy it in Europe?
  • 4 0
 Yes. This. Where do we get it?
  • 3 0
 I'll probably get hunted down and killed for this but is this groupset compatible with any drop bar shifters? Would be rad on a gravel build...
  • 5 0
 We've got a compatible integrated drop bar shifter.
  • 1 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT: thanks, just saw the previous same question. Cheers for the reply.
  • 2 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT:

Awesome! this was my first throught as well. I've been looking for something to expand the range of my Apex 1 road bike- Not very many affordable options in the wide range 1x drop bar market.
  • 6 0
 10 is the New 13??
  • 5 0
 Damn. This is what the people need. Not 12spd, $1500 BS.
  • 1 0
 I have a sunrace 9sp 11-40 cassette. Its great. Whomever decreed that a 13% difference in gear ratio of adjacent cogs is gospel, is just another puppet from the road biking camp.

MTB can get away with ~16% difference IMO. Fewer cogs saves weight, and makes the whole drivetrain less finicky. More cogs does not equal better.
  • 2 1
 Try this. Next time you go for a ride, don’t use the bottom 3-4 gears. I’ve been riding my 1x11 without using 1st thru 4th gears lately, and I’ve found it’s much more efficient, even on the steep stuff. Granted, I’m running a 28t chainring. Now I’m considering switching to a 7sp and saving the weight.
  • 2 0
 My trail bike runs on a 28 tooth ring and Box 7 speed DH drivetrain and I’m really happy with it. I don’t live in the Rocky Mountains though, our trails don’t have a huge amount of vert.
  • 3 0
 An affordable drive train for the common folk....Cheers. You won my vote. I don't care about the weight, as long as it gets me up the mountain.
  • 1 0
 I'm looking to get my girl friend an affordable commuter/trail bike and everything is triple-ring and ridiculous cassettes like 14-28... I can't wait for affordable 1x parts to disrupt the status quo, the last thing a beginner or novice needs is a front derailleur to worry about. For now I guess I'm stuck buying a new bike, throwing-out the brand-new drivetrain and replacing it with something like this... F U bike industry, wake the eff up!
  • 4 0
 The hardest part will be remembering that these guys even exist when it's time to buy new drivetrain parts.
  • 1 0
 Love that we get more options. What would be your likely pick for a 10spd chain? I've read that the XO1 and XX1 chains have awesome durability. Is there an equivalent being made for 10spd? Or do you just assume your replacement cost on a cassette makes chain durability and related cassette wear less important?
  • 1 0
 Shimano xt 10 speed chains are plentiful and cheap. That is what I will use with proper living I have gone 1000 miles on a xt chain at 75% wear. I replace at 75% just out of wear and tear sake.
  • 1 0
 I run 11 speed 1 X 11-46 but lockout the small 11 cog with derailleur screw adjust. It's now a 10 speed. Then I move the crank/chainring all the way in to get better chainline for grindy climbing. Poor chainline featured on all these new 12 speeds just slaughters your drivetrain. Of course this is all part of the big plan, to keep you buying new shit for new standards/
  • 4 0
 pinkbike lately: lets take a 170$ drivetrain and pair it with an 10.000$ bike.
  • 2 0
 Hey, If it works it works.
  • 4 0
 I wish somebody would make 10-46 in a 10sp with 12sp spacing to reduce chain angle
  • 2 0
 Now there's is an idea
  • 1 0
 I agree, 10 speed is where it's at. I am running a 10-speed SunRace 11-46t cassette with 10-speed Deore shifter and a newer 11-speed SLX derailleur. Paired with a 30t front chainring it works great, gives me the range I need, and requires less fiddling to get the derailleur into the right position.
  • 1 0
 Wow this looks really cool. I've been using the Oneup 47T with XT 1x11 cassette but just the Oneup expander cog is more than half the price of this entire drivetrain. I will definitely be giving this drivetrain a try next time mine is worn to the point of needing replacing.
  • 1 0
 I am probably in the minority camp, I really do want the 1x12 Sram I am running on my E29 (I do very big climbing days). And unfortunately can't see using this on a light XC bike.

But the system itself looks great for the majority who don't need or want 12s, want something cheap, and don't want to mix and match parts to get the range and components they are looking for.
  • 1 0
 Microshift makes an end bar/thumbie for Shimano 11 mountain. It works perfectly forever. Grab as few or many gears as you could ever wish for. Paul makes the iconic flat bar adapter for same.

This human does not prefer a 9 or 10 tooth cog thank you.
  • 1 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT Hey Gus! I'm planning to build up a gravel grinder with microshift. Do you know what is the brake pull is like on your SB-M090 and SB-M100 brifters? Short Pull is a relative term. Would they work well with TRP Spyre calipers?

Thanks a bunch!
  • 1 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT I know your website says it is compatible with all 10-speed chains, but has it been optimized for a particular chain? Is there a chain you would recommend?
@danielsapp what chain are you running on your test mule?
  • 2 0
 Love it. Can’t wait to see this OEM on bikes. I might pick one of these up as a “Oh shit, we are riding for the weekend and blew up a rear mech” solution.
  • 2 0
 Actually, that is a great idea. Depending on how its all packaged, you could keep it at home or throw it in your bike to-go bag for trips.
  • 1 0
 @CycleKrieg: but would swapping a cassette, mech, cable, and shifter be easier than just having a spare mech that is compatible with your current set up? Like a nx or slx just in case.
  • 3 1
 I would like to see how the microSHIFT’s drivetrain holds up over time. Shimano XT’s system has always been the best for weight, reliability, & durability.
  • 4 0
 Can anyone compare this to the 11 speed BOX components?
  • 1 0
 Anyone?
  • 3 0
 Very nice. A steep in the right direction. That medium cage derralier is something you won't see on today's 12speed setups
  • 2 0
 Nice job MicroSHIFT! The lack of 46-plus rear cog kept me away from Advent 1X9. I'm definitely purchasing this as my next shifting set.
  • 2 0
 Man this seems like a viable alternative to Box Prime 9... I'll probaböt give it a go when my 11 speed shimano needs replacing.
  • 2 0
 Perfect. My 12s "value" stuff works life crap after only a month of riding then it never works again (and im not gonna buy the nicest stuff -too spensive).
  • 1 0
 Just wish they do a 7 or 8 speed 10-36T, xD compatible, drive train (and stealing sram xdome tech). Because not every one shuttles on downhill bikes. (and enduro bikes are just shitty downhill bikes...)
  • 1 0
 NOT for Canada?? distributor in Quebec says they arent' stocking it so my LBS can't get it and Microshift USA says I can only either deal via the canadian distributor or wait till online dealers have it. Missed market?
  • 3 0
 that chainstay gaurd is magnificent! way to go Pivot!
  • 6 0
 Just looks like a mud trap to me!
  • 1 0
 @secondtimeuser: sorry what is mud? I live in California! haha! but in all seriousness at least it looks like it'll wash out easily
  • 2 3
 Do any other deraileurs use a disengagable clutch system like that? Removing rear wheels and dealing with the deraileur always seems like I'm somehow doing it wrong. If this gets the draileur out of the way and makes that easier, it'd be one of those little things that really makes a difference.

OTOH, it could just be more complicated things that break.
  • 7 0
 Every shimano clutch mech I've had has a lever you flip to disengage clutch. Sram has the cage lock thing.
  • 2 0
 My Shimano clutch switch has never had any issues in the year and a half I've used it. Its a pretty good feature to have if you regularly remove the rear wheel for transport.
  • 3 0
 Microshift Advent X vs Sram SX? Which is better?
  • 8 0
 microshift
  • 23 0
 It could be "Cage Match," get it?

Sorry, I'll show myself out . . .
  • 4 0
 I vote microshift
  • 9 0
 I haven't even tried the Microshift stuff but it would be hard to be worse than SX tbh.
  • 2 0
 If it's not X01 or above, Microshift.
  • 1 0
 @alexdi: You'd Recommend Microshift still above GX?...I've honestly never tried any of the newer sram stuff at all so I have no idea how good or bad it is. Last sram kit I had was 10 yrs ago, an X9 system, which seemed to work okay
  • 2 0
 @greener1: I own an GX eagle group and it works well enough but it's not smooth or elegant. It's not just my bike either. Everything I've ridden with SRAM stuff feels the same, NX, GX, X01, they all just feel a bit clunky. They certainly shift consistently and they do shift every time, it's just not as smooth as something like XT.
  • 2 0
 I vote Microshift based on: 1) I have SRAM on a gravel bike. Meh. 2) @Gus-At-microSHIFT is clearly the wittier of MS and SRAM...and is the only one standing in the ring waiting for his opponent at the moment.

Might be interesting if Box slid under the bottom rope with a steel chair though, just to see what happens.
  • 3 0
 Can anyone provide feedback regarding how if the shift feel is "snappy?"
  • 10 0
 Sure, it is. There's not a dead spot in it and it's quick and lively.
  • 3 0
 @danielsapp: Have you ever broke the "rules" and tried using microshift with a shimano shifter? I would be so stoked to set this up with 10sp XT shifter.
  • 1 0
 @danielsapp: how does Microshift compare to Box components for the affordable drivetrain options? Mainly wondering about it for my kid - durability, ease of shifting, etc
  • 1 0
 @danielsapp: thanks for the response. Looks like I'll be getting one of these sets
  • 9 0
 @sdowney: I'd choose it over the Box. It has a much better feel and it works better...no question or debate about it.
  • 1 0
 @dglass: I haven't...I don't have any 10s shifters kicking around still.
  • 2 0
 Ooo man, depending on durability this may finally take out shimano zee for best budget drivetrain.
  • 4 0
 I'm so into this.
  • 3 0
 Just shut up and take my moneeyyyyy ! :-0
  • 3 0
 Oh no. I'm really going to miss that 10t. NOT!
  • 1 0
 If I hadn't just ordered a Box Two drivetrain yesterday, would certainly have considered this one for my smaller-brand Rift Zone build (Suntour, Magura, Box)...
  • 2 0
 Whoa - this is impressive and I bet made Shimano and SRAM pucker a little. Haha.
  • 4 0
 Fucking sold.
  • 2 0
 This med cage der looks and sounds to be a Dick Pounding addition to my new D1x elec. setup Thanks Microshift
  • 1 0
 None of the microshift shifters i've felt have been on par with either of the big boys. Haven't felt this one, if it's good then this is a winner!
  • 1 0
 Will it handle the loads on a emtb (runs for cover)? The NX stuff I have on my bike is strong but shifts terrible. This looks like the perfect replacement.
  • 1 0
 With the money you save you could buy an hollow pin chain and save a few more grams. Approximately 25-35g. Not a lot but it all adds up.
  • 3 0
 Yes please.
  • 2 0
 Anyone know if this is compatible with the 1x10 drop bar shifters?
  • 4 0
 We have a specific drop bar shifter for these -- our US distributor has them in stock now so they should be available through a local shop.
  • 2 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT: Is it a brifter or a shifter that will require you to have brake levers already on your bike?
  • 11 0
 @ClaytonMarkin: I can't bring myself to say the "B" word -- it's an integrated shifter, meaning the brake and shifter are part of the same unit Wink
  • 2 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT: Do you mind confirming which shifter is compatible? The website doesn't say; I was in the process of pulling the trigger on the 9-spd Advent for a screw-around gravel/CX build when I saw this had dropped the day before.
  • 2 1
 Is it XD driver compatible?

Noob mechanic here, serious question, please don't laugh at me.
  • 7 0
 Sorry, we don't have an XD driver version - this is for the Shimano HG standard (the "normal" driver that's on most hubs).
  • 2 1
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT: Is there a plan to have a future version for XD drivers or not? thanks for the answers!
  • 6 0
 @Coolwinner05: The beauty of this cassette is that it DOESN'T need XD or microspline. Just good ole normal freehubs. You could go by a normal freehub body and after wearing out 2 cassettes you'd make your money back by not having to replace a sram cassette.
  • 2 0
 What model chain are they using?
  • 3 0
 Looks like a KMC but hard to tell.
  • 1 0
 Sorry, double comment.
  • 5 0
 KMC X10
  • 2 0
 Should’ve put some @VHS tape on that!
  • 2 0
 As soon as my x7 wears out this will be going on. Great stuff.
  • 1 0
 side note: Those Pivot grips look mint. Here's hoping they'll make a fatter version!
  • 1 0
 @Gus-At-microSHIFT where and when can I get one? Are you guys going to be updating your Amazon marketplace?
  • 2 0
 You can order them at your LBS.
  • 2 0
 The online retail stuff has been slowed down by the virus, should be up and running soon!
  • 1 0
 As soon as available in the UK. Will be buying. Was just looking at new drivetrains today!
  • 1 1
 Why would you buy this over XT 11spd? XT is $10 more and is the easiest to set-up and most reliable drivetrain I've ever used.
  • 2 0
 You probably won't, but I bet this ends up being way cheaper at wholesale for complete builds. This could be the true competition to SX & NX that Shimano still doesn't really offer.
  • 3 0
 the only reason I can think of is that the last jump to the biggest sprocket on 11speed xt is huge and horrible.
  • 1 0
 @Gus-At-microshift are there any plans for a drop bar shifter for Advent X?
  • 2 0
 "Why would anyone ever smoke weed when they could just mow a lawn?"
  • 1 0
 Would this mix with Shimano 10speed. E.g Shimano shifter with an Advent X rear mech?
  • 1 0
 Deore 10V is on the shelves since ages, simple and reliable, why everybody is just going crazy for something so similar?
F
  • 1 0
 Shimano Deore CS-HG500-10 11-42 cassette 435grams and less then €45,-.
Just saying........
  • 1 0
 Can I take off my NX 11 speed stuff, swap this stuff over and all will be good with the cassete spacing and chain raing?
  • 1 0
 The cassette will fit your hub.
  • 1 0
 I'm ready to buy this but the Microshift site doesn't seem to allow the purchase? Any ideas where I can buy?
  • 1 0
 I have an '06 Kona Stinky that still has a 2x9 stock deore drivetrain. Do you think this would fit on it?
  • 1 0
 You can get drop bar shifters with it too, I’m throwing it on a gravel/commuter right now lol
  • 1 0
 What online retailer in europe holds some stock of this?
  • 2 1
 Like a box 9, but without the box 9 boutique prices
  • 1 0
 My 1x10 is old, now new again!
  • 1 0
 WHere can I order from? I cant add anything in microshifts website cart
  • 2 1
 XT M8000 11 speed is 809 grams. This is still a great deal.
  • 1 1
 SOZ 835 grams.
  • 1 1
 WTF, I literally did the math this morning, and it was 809 grams, I swear to God. Shimano trying to make their new gruppo look bettter?
  • 1 0
 Anyone know how to buy? Is it available in Europe?
  • 1 0
 Good onya Advent, this is great to see.
  • 1 0
 If the price will be right in Europ I think I'll give them a try.
  • 1 0
 Good to see a new 1x10. Now i'm back in style.
  • 1 0
 Sounds good, never needed 12 speed anyway, what is availability like?
  • 1 0
 man, that garden is screaming out for a pump track
  • 1 0
 Last time I check, a Shimano SLX drivetrain was the same price.
Questions?
  • 1 0
 i love microshift clutch mechanism, will get this to try out
  • 1 0
 Any news on when/were this will be available in the UK?
  • 1 1
 Can you disclose the cable pull for the shifter?
  • 4 4
 Hard to see getting excited about this vs. SLX..
  • 3 0
 Can a Shimano 12 speed groupset cost you less than $200 brand new?
  • 5 0
 @Ajorda: Don't forget 11spd SLX M7000, which is a more comparable anyways, and very affordable. Also 10spd Deore M6000, which has been proven to work fine with an 11-46 cassette, offering almost the same range.

That said, the real win is how much cheaper this will be for OEMs, with the potential to actually displace SX and NX domination on the low end.

I was hoping to see 12 speed SLX filling that role, as the part prices seem comparable to NX and XS over the counter, but clearly SRAM is able to offer their parts at a much lower unit cost. (and quality...) SLX complete builds are substantially more expensive than low-end SRAM, other spec being equal.
  • 3 0
 @alreadyupsidedown: That is true. 11 speed Shimano is still a good groupset.
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 @Ajorda: Yeah, I really wish the shimano R&D would have went into how to build the lightest, cheapest,smoothest shifting 11 speed possible instead of going 12 speed and chasing the %500 range number. Sram's top end 300g eagle cassette is beautiful but at over 500$ cnd it's just not feasible for most folks. If Shimano came up with say, a 3d printed or 1/2 machined 11 sp that was 350 grams for 200 bucks I think they'd have a winner.
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 Can someone explain this stupid pound beaver stuff??
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 Thank you@NatusEstInSuht:
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 Why stop at 48. 50 seems to be the current standard.
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 I'd hit that.
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 Looks great
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 Where can I buy it from?
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 A shifter, der, and cassette is now a "drivetrain"? I'm pretty sure there are some other important and expensive parts before you can begin driving your bike forward.
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 Agreed! To me, a drive train includes the chain, cranks (and possibly BB) and chain ring as well. I got all excited by the cheapness but it was not to be..
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 This is really cool and all but... Dick Pound
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 ShIMANO HAS A 1x10 for over 10 years now!
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