First Look: Specialized's New 2FO Roost Flat and Clip Shoes

Nov 10, 2020
by Sarah Moore  
Specialized 2FO Roost


Don't be fooled by their casual looks, there's a whole lot of new tech in Specialized's new 2FO Roost Flat and Clip shoes. Specialized developed a new 3rd generation SlipNot rubber for the sole, included Body Geometry features to increase performance and comfort, and replaced the traditional foam padding in the upper with Xpel Airmesh to make it lighter weight.

The Clip version of the 2FO Roost uses the same new SlipNot outsole as the Flat, but adds a roomy cleat pocket to make it easier to engage your pedals in rough trail situations.


Specialized 2FO Roost

The Rubber

The 3rd generation SlipNot rubber that Specialized developed is designed in a hexagonal lug pattern that they say channels and directs pedal pins into a tight position underfoot.

bigquotesWe think of rubber as being bouncy, but bouncy is not what you want in a flat pedal shoe. You want a rubber sole that grips the pins of the pedals without feeling squishy, which gives you confidence that your feet are going to stay put. That leaves less to worry about and more mental space for shred.Specialized

Both models are designed to be stiff enough to give the support needed for a long day out on the bike while remaining flexible for hike-a-bike sections or an afternoon at the local bike shop. The rubber is also said to provide a consistent feel across temperatures, whether you're riding in the heat or near-freezing conditions.

Specialized's designers say the new lug pattern also helps the shoes wear more consistently across the whole foot and reduces overall wear off bike for long-lasting functionality and durability.

Specialized 2FO Roost
The new 2FO Roost does away with traditional foam padding to save weight.

Specialized 2FO Roost
The Xpel Airmesh also helps increase drying speed.
Specialized 2FO Roost
Body Geometry insoles.


Lightweight & Breathable

Specialized did away with the traditional foam padding in the upper and replaced it with Xpel Airmesh to make it lighter weight. Specialized says that the hydrophobic Xpel Airmesh retains all the impact reduction properties of traditional padding but with reduced weight and a significant increase in drying speed.


Fit & Comfort

The Body Geometry features included in the new 2FO Roost shoes are said to increase your foot's comfort on long rides and to avoid hot spots and numbness in your feet. These include a longitudinal arch, varus wedge, and a metatarsal button. The varus wedge found in both models is a 1.5mm increase in thickness on the inside (medial side) of the shoe at the forefoot, which supports the foot and prevents the forefoot from collapsing.

Looking into their Retul data, Specialized found that there are more variations across riders than across gender so their footwear line is developed beyond gender, with a focus in on creating footwear that is right for as many foot types as possible.

Specialized hinted that there are additional models with a higher level of protection and different closures in the works.


Specialized 2FO Roost
A clean, low-rise silhouette to create a shoe that looks at home on the bike and the brewery.

2FO Roost Flat
• SlipNot SuperTacky Rubber: flat pedal specific compound
• Upper Material: Suede and leather create a soft and supple feel
• XPEL hydrophobic lining provides cushioning without retaining water
• Available in Black and Oak
• $120 MSRP


Specialized 2FO Roost
Subtle colors and minimal branding. 2FO Roost Flat in Black
Specialized 2FO Roost
The 2FO Roost Flat in Oak. Suede hits and caps are added to the upper in high-wear areas for increased longevity and decreased scuff abrasion.



Specialized 2FO Roost
Black version of the 2FO Roost Clip

2FO Roost Clip
• Lollipop nylon shank is paired with an EVA midsole to flex where needed while remaining stiff for pedaling
• Micro-perforated synthetic provides a soft and supple feel
• XPEL hydrophobic lining provides cushioning without retaining water
• Landing Strip cleat pocket guides the cleat into the pedal for fast engagement
• Available in Black and Taupe
• $130 MSRP

Specialized 2FO Roost
Specialized 2FO Roost
There's a ton of room around the cleat to make it easier to clip in on the trail. The lines make it easy to be precise when installing your cleats as well.

Specialized 2FO Roost
Taupe version of the 2FO Roost Clip
Specialized 2FO Roost


First Impressions

I've got a set of the 2FO Roost Clip shoes that I'll be testing in the next couple of months. I'm a big fan of the way the shoe looks with its minimal branding and casual looks compared to the previous generation 2FO with its space-age looks. The new 2FO Roost shoes don't look out of place as soon as you step off the bike and I'd be more than comfortable going to a restaurant or brewery in them post-ride.

I'm also impressed by how light the shoe is and how quickly it dried after a wet ride. In addition, the wide clearance cleat pocket with its ruler-like gradations made it easy to set up my cleats.

Mike Kazimer will also be putting a pair of the 2FO Roost Flat shoes to the test in the coming months. His initial thoughts are as follows:

bigquotesI'm always a little hesitant when a new pair of flat pedal shoes shows up for testing. After all, it's hard to beat Five Ten's sticky rubber, despite numerous valiant attempts over the years. With the new 2FO Roost shoes, Specialized seems to have cracked the code. There's enough space between the raised portions of the sole to to help it latch onto the pedal’s pins, and the rubber itself is slow rebounding and grippy.

My first impressions are positive - there's plenty of grip, even on extra-rough trails, and it's a noticeable improvement over the 2FO 1.0 shoes that these replace. I'm not totally sold on the use of suede, but we'll see how that holds up over the next couple months of muddy riding. Overall, these look to be a great addition to Specialized's lineup. Fingers crossed there's a mid-top version with a velcro strap over the laces in the works...
Mike Kazimer



206 Comments

  • 180 11
 They look a bit like something an older gentleman may buy from Marks and Spencer or Ecco specifically to wear on a coach tour around the ancient sites of Turkey or the vineyards of Bordeaux. Booked from the back of the Saturday travel supplement of the Daily Telegraph of course.
  • 8 1
 Haha, thinking the same thing
  • 6 0
 LOL - well done...
  • 12 0
 I was about to critic your comment, but then i realized that i feel a lil bit represented with your cartoon version of an old gentleman.
  • 12 0
 Spec has its target market pinpointed
  • 3 0
 Yeah, not sure why anybody would buy these over the 2FO 2.0.
  • 11 2
 I'm curious what those of you who might criticize the looks of such shoes thinks are attractive shoes.
  • 12 0
 Laugh all you want. Those eccos are longer lasting and comfier than anything trendier
  • 3 1
 Yeah old man slippers
  • 2 1
 @PHeller: I prefer Birkenstock Bostons.
  • 5 0
 @PHeller: I am curious as well. Always see those comments in these articles, yet they never mention a shoe that they think looks good.

Anyone want to name one?
  • 3 0
 @felimocl: Dads wear them cause they have tried and been let down by everything else.
  • 16 0
 I’ve given up hope that anyone will ever make a mountain bike shoe that doesn’t look like this. I’ve just resigned myself to the fact that these are what mountain bike shoes are. It is what it is. Just like ski boots are what they are, and bowling shoes are what they are. These are mountain bike shoes. No, there’s no reason they always have to be so ugly, but this is the hand we’ve been dealt, apparently. The time has now come for me to accept it.
  • 3 0
 @TheR: I’d be stoked to see some different design ideas, but I certainly can’t see how a shoe could be designed to look a lot different while still performing as well as the Freerider Pro does...
  • 3 0
 @TheR: Out of curiosity- what might a good looking shoe look like to you?
  • 3 4
 @snl1200: my guess is @TheR prefers something with a big ugly swoosh down the side...
  • 4 0
 @unrooted: I didn't mean it to suggest they have bad style... I was just curious because perhaps I'm a bit boring and like really basic and clean looking shoes. So genuinely curious about others shoe preferences as these didn't stand out to me as ugly. Maybe I just like ugly shoes...
  • 1 0
 @snl1200: I agree. These look like regular shoes. Nothing garish or ugly that stands out. They are for getting dirty anyways.

Still haven't seen anyone post a "stylish" shoe...
  • 3 0
 @ColquhounerHooner: those look grippier than my last pair of riding Uggs
  • 3 1
 @snl1200: If I were designing mountain bike shoes, I’d probably base mine off your basic low-top/mid hiking shoes or trail runners. The connection there seems pretty obvious to me. Instead, the industry has opted for Herman Munster’s geriatric orthotics, time after time. I don’t get it. Maybe there’s some functional reason — I’m open to that. I just can’t see what it is.
  • 1 0
 @blowmyfuse: Well, at least the Specialized shoes are cheaper, if not quite as stylish. That’s got to be a first for the mountain bike industry.
  • 1 0
 I hate to be trite, but lol
  • 1 0
 @blowmyfuse: they are literelly called the me too mocha...just missing the hashtag Big Grin how deep can you sink?
  • 1 0
 You say that like its a bad thing ..... says the older gentlemen who finds himself considering Ecco and M&S more and more these days..... although not the ancient sites or vineyards or the Telegraph to be clear....
  • 2 0
 @TheR: Check out the Adidas/Five Ten Trailcross LTs. They incorporate your thoughts and are great MTB/bikepacking flat pedal shoes.
  • 2 0
 I was looking for a bike shoe that was at home in the trails and the brewery while I drink loud mouth soup.
  • 1 0
 @jddallager: There you go! That’s more like it. Thanks for the heads up. Are they going to continue this shoe or have they phased it out. There seems to be only one mountain bike shoe left on the Five Ten website, but that has to have something to do with COVID, right? I also don’t find the Impacts all too horrible. There’s hope.
  • 2 0
 @KavuRider: These look like they might work for flat pedals, and according to some of the biggest hits on the music charts are also very much in style: www.neimanmarcus.com/p/balenciaga-speed-knit-chunky-sneakers-prod230790107?childItemId=NMX4U9T_&navpath=cat000000_cat000730_cat43240829_cat41540748&page=0&position=10
  • 1 0
 @unrooted: your bikes supposed to cost more than your car, not your shoes
  • 1 0
 Anybody besides me notice that Black Diamond gear company has sticky rubber soled "Approach Shoes" in conspicuosly identically sole pattern to Astral Footwear's river shoes?

They also come in 5 different pretty cool color combos. Someone buy them and see if they're climbing rubber.
www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en_US/performance-lifestyle-footwear/session-approach-shoes-mens-BD580005_cfg.html#start=2
  • 1 0
 @TheR: It's interesting how we have these different associations. I think when I was but a young whipper snapper skate culture was huge in terms of public style influences. To me these are more reminiscent of some old skate shoes i used to like before they became super boxy. I guess it is just our different associations.
  • 1 0
 @snl1200: See, to me, these look super boxy. I come from a BMX background, and I do like Vans, too — the Old Skool low-top, the Sk-8 Hi-too. I have a few pair, and I’d wear then now to ride if they would beef them up a little. I’d hate to take a softball-sized rock to my foot with nothing but a layer of canvas to protect me. Anyway, the shoes are what they are. Kind of disappointing to me, but whatcha gonna do?
  • 1 0
 @TheR: have you checked the vans BMX line?
  • 1 0
 @blowmyfuse: Those me too shoes look like they're built to take some abuse.
  • 1 0
 @unrooted: Yeah, it’s pretty much just their pro line, which is their regular shoes reenforced in spots. I’ve considered them. Not sure they would offer the protection I’ve needed from time to time.
  • 1 1
 @MTB-Colada: The 2FO 2.0 are fully featured specifically for enduro riding. The 2FO 2.0 like Shimano's AM-9/GR-9 have the asymmetric collar for protecting the inside ankle from strikes against the crank arm. The Roost is more like (but not completely) Shimano's AM-7/GR-7 and satisfies trail and (some) enduro usage. The latter shoes are better when riding is not intensively aggressive and where trail rather than enduro is emphasized. The Roost may possibly fit differently than the 2.0. While both shoes are described as relaxed fit, the Roost with one less lace eyelet may have more volume in the toe box which would be appreciated by people who have a wider forefoot. The soft material in the upper part of the shoe may lessen the squeeze on the foot which again is appreciated by people with a wide foot. Specialized is correct about the appearance of the Roost. It is more "normal" in appearance and may not be detected as cycling specific.
  • 1 0
 @giro-man: Which brings us to the one things Specialized has an advantage over all other shoe makers....they're gonna force their dealers to carry these various shoes in stock, so you "should" be able to try them on instead of "Mail Order....Try....Return....Mail Order....Ride....Sell on PB...Mail Order...Fit, but grip sucks....Sell at a Loss....Mail Order....wait for COVID delay.....never show...Mail Order....Fit. Grip. Ride.
  • 2 0
 I'd be worried with approach shoes that they'd all fit too narrow. Climbers love jamming their feet into small shoes.
  • 1 0
 @PHeller: maybe euro based climbing shoe companies will be narrow, but from my experience the 5.10 Guide Tennie fits rather wide...and it’s what most climber/Mtn bikers wear for both approach & biking where I live.
  • 43 1
 yeah yeah thats all nice and stuff but when are flat pedal riders going to be presented with a decent waterproof shoe for winter? the options for clipped riders are endless, why the disparity?
  • 22 0
 Yeah it's weird that there literally isn't a single option for winter flat pedal users. How hard can it be? Shimano could literally just stick their AM7 sole on their MW5 winter boot. It would sell like hot cakes in the UK.
  • 2 0
 I agree there should be flat shoes (& clip in) that are waterproof but not like insulated fat bike moon boots.

As a clipped in rider i actually find it tough to find a high performance waterproof enduroish clip in shoe. I normally wear shimano me701’s but cant find a similar shoe with good protection & coverage, grippy lugs, stiff sole and waterproofness. The shimano wm701 has a softer shank.
  • 1 0
 @danp63: yeah agreed, or even add the neoprene cuff to the am9 from the am7. i dont get why fiveten hasnt bothered either, they offer so much in their range, surely theres room for a winter version of the freerider or the impact. maybe they figure their target demographic wouldnt shell out another £100 or so for some winter shoes, but I certainly would.
  • 6 0
 @getsomesy: nobody likes a soft shank
  • 2 0
 Sombrio made some for a while but nobody bought them. Their current ones have vent holes.
  • 4 1
 Get a waterproof approach shoe. They are just as stiff, the lug design philosophy is the same (low and with lots of surface area), they'll all use a rubber as sticky if not more than most flat pedal shoes, and there are a ton of options out there for you euros.
  • 3 0
 @getsomesy: I use overshoes. Always thought they were for roadie wankers till I tried them, but they're a game changer in the wet. Wear your favourite clip in shoes, throw them over the top and you'll be dry and happy.

Pity they don't work well with flats.
  • 2 0
 @2d-cutout: Too bad they get torn up by clip pedals with pins like the Mallet.
  • 1 0
 @oatkinso was just going to ask the same!
The FiveTen Trail Cross Pro would be almost perfect if it was waterproof and had some thread front and back for hiking.

I'm experimenting with some Salomon S/Lab which I suspect I'll destroy completely, but let's see...
  • 1 0
 @2d-cutout: yeah Endura make some for flats, but after reading the reviews it sounds like they’re really poorly made. Still, it’d be nice to have a waterproof flat shoe as an option.
  • 1 2
 @danp63: five ten free riders can be water proof I have a pair and they’re pretty good
  • 3 0
 FiveTen were meant to be releasing the Trailcross GTX but it has been delayed

www.scotbycycles.co.uk/products/five-ten-trailcross-gxt-mountain-biking-shoes?variant=32460099256404
  • 1 0
 @Mattgc: yeah that does look the ticket, only worry is that they look a little flimsy.
  • 1 0
 @2d-cutout: I feel like they would get really ripped up considering the way things go for me.

Ive been thinking about putting something like flex seal on the outside and on the cleat plate of my me701s to eliminate the vents.
  • 1 0
 Why would anyone want waterproof shoes? It hasn’t rained in 207 days...oh wait, maybe that’s just where I live...
  • 2 0
 Hell yeah! Here in the PNW where the majority wear flats - Show us some equal shoes to the clicker tech for wet & cold rides!! The 5.10 / Adidas GTX looked promising but they never came to market.
  • 2 0
 @advansti: this thread is literally free market research for the brands...
  • 2 0
 I've given up the hunt and now I just wear Sealskinz waterproof socks and Freerider Pros.

It's not ideal, it doesn't stop the shoes getting drenched through, but the Pros dry reasonably quickly (by the standards of MTB shoes) and it doesn't matter if they're wet the next day if it's still raining and you're wearing waterproof socks anyway. Sealskinz socks are nice and warm too.
  • 1 0
 @Woody25: yeah i mean ive got fiveten impact pro's and im probably gonna buy some sealskinz soon, but it doesnt stop the shoes weighing an absolute ton when they get wet (fivetens seem particularly susceptible to this cos of the amount of padding).
  • 1 0
 @Woody25: shoe drier gets mine dry in a few hours, in it ain't raining the next day. I'm using a ski boot drier, but I'm sure there are options out there in case you haven't got one.

Which sealskins do you have, a friend bought some and they leaked as soon as he dipped them in water out of curiosity, so I've stayed away ever since.
  • 2 0
 @Milko3D: Now is the time every year when I mean to buy a set of Showers Pass waterproof socks and put it off and put it off.

Instead, I usually wind up taking a strip of Gorilla Tape and covering the holes in the toe box of my Five Tens and riding til it hurts.
  • 1 0
 @danp63: The GR9 with a few strips of gorilla tape over the holes would work. It's what I do to my AM9's for wet winter rides. Cuts out the wind and even though your feet get a bit wet, the toe box stays pretty darn dry.
  • 1 0
 @edulmes: those are like fat biking snow boots for sub zero. not rain shoes.
  • 1 0
 @blowmyfuse: Clever, haven't tried the tape, but that would only solve part of the issue - higher than ankle slushy snow or worse - puddles covered by snow...dipped my right limb twice on the last ride, one of the worst feelings ever Big Grin

@edulmes those look interesting, saw the Bontrager OMW, too, but a little too chunky, I'd rather ride in approach shoes 'La Sportiva - TX4 Mid GTX' survived one month in Nepal on top of DMR Vault pedals, the soles are flat enough for biking, haven't tried riding in the snow with them, yet.
  • 1 0
 I have the 510 trail cross mids. With waterproof socks they are perfect for the pnw. If it gets a little cold I can wear a thin set of wool socks underneath the waterproof ones. The shoes are not even slightly waterproof but they dry really fast and are quite light. Best part is I can use the same shoes year round just by changing my sock choice.
  • 30 4
 Am I the only one that wishes that flat MTB shoe reviews would please just start off with how the grip compares with 5.10's? If it's not at least decently comparable I just don't want to waste my time reading the rest.
  • 22 0
 Vital has answered the call
  • 3 0
 Agree 100%
  • 8 37
flag nurseben (Nov 10, 2020 at 12:06) (Below Threshold)
 Nope, could care less about Five Ten, I haven't bought their shoes for years because they fall apart. It's not about how sticky the sole is, but how it grips, which is a combination of rubber choice and sole design. I think everyone is done with Five Ten, ie no cares anymore that you like Five Ten rubber.
  • 15 0
 @nurseben: "I think everyone is done with Five Ten"

....what? Probably 90% of people on flat pedals are riding five tens
  • 4 0
 @nfontanella: Pretty much. for me Five Tens has 2 things going right for them: a) grippy soles b) shoe size fits my foot.

I tried Giro, and the arch is too far back. And the shoe is either too tight or too long. By all means I am open to other brands. I'm willing to try Afton, Ride Concept, etc. But every review I've read was "not as grippy as five ten" "soles disintegrate, I went back to five ten."

Ultimately, it is the combo. pedal and shoe.

Side note: Five Ten is obsoleting Free rider Canvas, so people better stock up, or get used to the Sleuth model.
  • 2 0
 @nfontanella: they are true to size, and have most grip soles, priced average per market
  • 4 0
 @kroozctrl: annoying about freerider canvas. That means they've discontinued both the pairs of 5.10s that I own, and I like both. Freerider ELC are great winter shoes (or most of the year shoes in the UK), but they've gone too. What the hell are Adidas up to?
  • 2 0
 @kroozctrl: Sleuth is a bit better I would say. As far as you don't mind they fall apart in weeks, they should get back to stitches and leave the glueing for envelopes
  • 1 0
 @mountainsofsussex: No clue, I was in the same boat, I needed to buy new shoes and even for casual wear, I like using five tens. Like the LBS that have it, that's all they have. And when I go an check out the archive site, they listed Free rider Canvas as a legacy shoe.

The only gripe I have about Five Ten so far is their color Pallet is getting Hella bland for the men's shoes. And I like the way Afton's look but based on the reviews, they are essentially rebranded VANS.
  • 1 0
 @bok-CZ: f*ck...really its glued together, yea Glue and MTB usually don't mix, I mean look at the poor guy with the split in half Pole Frame.

I guess I'll stock up before my move.
  • 2 0
 @nickmalysh: dude when Five Ten was still in Redlands. You would hit Snow Summit Bike Park, and drive down to get new shoes. And they were below average market price. Like VANS slip on price. 2 for $80. Gone were those days.
  • 2 0
 @kroozctrl: d'oh, you've reminded me I own 3 pairs of 5.10s - I've got some suede sleuths as well, for just walking around, and looking at Google, it seems Adidas have messed up the styling of them as well! Don't know if anyone round here frequents climbing forums, but have they messed up their climbing shoes too?
  • 1 0
 @mountainsofsussex: agree Freerider ELC were a great winter shoe and I find grippier than the freerider pro and impacts.
  • 17 0
 Please please please Mr Park make Levy read that cringey blurb in the next podcast.
  • 6 0
 Please El Señor Parque
  • 12 0
 Pinkbike commenters: I want MTB shoes to be stylish
Also pinkbike commenters: I want MTB shoes that are waterproof and have velcro instead of laces. And a thick grippy sole. And a reinforced toe box with room for thick socks
  • 20 8
 I hate shoe laces. Give me BOA!
  • 7 0
 2fo cliplite is my all time favorite
  • 5 3
 Agree. Laces on cycling shoes are a no-go. I have 2 pairs, the one with laces I'm using for trail work or to ride to the coffee shop maximum. BOA is so nice and perfectly adjustable, even during a ride you can adjust them without stopping.
  • 1 0
 @laurentf: I bought a pair of 5.10's with boa of the discount rack; the boa wire seems to create pinch points and I've had the ratchet release at inopportune times - what am I doing wrong?
  • 2 0
 @plyawn: you probably got the kestrel with only one boa? It's a design flaw but if you crank it then move you heel up then crank again it seems to help for me. Boa isnt the problem the kestrel shoe is.
  • 1 0
 @ybsurf: Agreed, I love my pair. Going strong years later, too.
  • 1 0
 @plyawn: I've never had a problem, mine are 5 years old now. Only thing I noticed, when taking your shoes off it helps if you pull slightly on the wire while turning the knob, otherwise the wire can get tangled up and eventually damaged.
You can try the same when putting them on, make sure that you keep the wire a bit under tension and check if they're tight. I always move my feet around and pull up a bit to make sure everything is tight and equal pressure.
Those are the things I always adjust on the first 100 meter, brakes, suspension, shoes, it's a routine.
Btw, I use 2fo, I tried 510 but they feel too chunky and wide. Just my personal preference.
  • 2 0
 @laurentf: good feedback, thanks. My 5.10's feel heavy and clunky compared with 5.10 lace ups, but the Boa version are also spd vs. flats so it's probably largely related to that. I do notice what you mentioned how you can't cinch them up immediately, until you're feet "bed down" and you get some slack.
  • 7 1
 Their first 2fo flat pedal shoe was the best ever imo. Stiff sole, toe box when impact protection, good ventilation, very little material that would get soaked, thus super fast drying. And durable.

The second gen model(s) were the exact opposite in my experience. They were so different from the original, they shouldn't've been called 2fo even.

I'm hoping these are more true to the original 2fo.
  • 12 0
 The 2fo cliplite is the best imo
  • 1 0
 @ybsurf: agreed but it's never in stock!
  • 3 0
 I live the Cliplites, they are my favorite show by far. @ybsurf:
  • 1 0
 @Chayce: I wore out one pair of cliplites and agree they were the best... They were never in stock so I tried the Rime 2.0.

Pretty close but not quite as nice. Rimes are better for hike a bike but feel "bulkier" for lack of a better term.
  • 6 0
 I'm currently rocking a "zombie toe" with a dead/black nail and some soreness WITH a toe box 5.10.

No toe box and I woulda had a broken toe and been off the bike.

No toe box, no buy.
  • 1 0
 So at the time I was wearing clipless shoes with a carbon sole, but I managed to hit my foot at the toe hard enough to shatter the sole of the shoe and also fracture my big toe slightly. Can't imagine how much worse that would have been without a true toebox.
  • 5 0
 Love flats. Dont like soft shoes that catch toes. Dont like bulky shoes that are not streamlined and hang up in ruts n such (like smaller pedals for same reason. Less strikes and more clearance all around). Want durable not suede stylish kicks. dont care for fat ankle opeings that let in small rocks and crap. Need real hiking ability and traction for carry bike up really rugged. Need xxwide for ma duck feet. Guess im screwed. Guess i just buy shoes that fit and deal with all the rest sucking. What else is new?
  • 1 0
 I feel your pain. I am exactly the same with all clothing, shoes and accessories, both on and off the bike.
  • 8 3
 Will any flat shoe ever outperform Five Ten in terms of grip? It’s pretty amazing how quite a few manufacturers are trying for years to match or outperform the grip of Five Ten but none have succeeded yet
  • 2 2
 Does it matter when 5.10 seems to have ceased manufacturing??? Or at the very least quit making my size available (14us)???
  • 1 0
 @unrooted: I recently got a pair of 5.10 Sleuth in US13 and they are way bigger than the freerider etc. Feel much more like a US14 to me. Seems way off but maybe works in your favour.
  • 2 0
 @er043: that’s interesting, too bad I already have a bunch of pairs of Vans....
  • 1 0
 @unrooted: quit your whining then ya flipper footed freak! (respectfully from one to another)
  • 5 2
 Dear 5/10, Specialized, RC etc. will you PLEASE make a flat shoe with Velcro or at least a combo of Velcro /laces? I know many have been asking for a while. Maybe there are few I am unaware of. If so, I am open to someone pointing them out. Like them or hate them, nothing has yet match 5/10's grip feel. I know RC is making some good shoes. Haven't ridden Specialized yet
  • 4 0
 5.10 did and then they stopped. the freerider elc was the best flat pedal shoe ever since there was a velcro lace cover. more weather resistant and best pedal feel ever. I am always bummed that they were discontinued.
  • 4 0
 @adrennan: right, I have seen a few of those. Not sure why I got the downvotes above. I know I have seen many here on PB specifically asking for similar whether it's velcro, boa or some combination with laces. Even the old Shimano DX shoes had the cover over the laces..
  • 2 0
 @adrennan: They probaly didn't sell because of the of the colourways. You can go all crazy with colours but ALWAYS have a black version!
  • 3 0
 5.10 bring back the ELC and make it in black and will have a killer selling shoe!!!
  • 3 0
 Ill be interested to hear about the overall shape. i have a very tapered foot. wide toebox, narrow heel. i found the last generation to be too loose in the heel for me which was a bummer because the old 2fos where overall a nice shoe. I would like to go back to them but cant if the heel is sloppy.
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 Most people do. The previous Shimano AM7’s were about the only trail shoe with a wide toe box without have massive mid foot volume. The new versions have lost the wide toe box.
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 I have the specialized rime shoe and it’s the same, very wide, great otherwise. I’d love something with less volume for sure.
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 @jclnv: Wait they changed the AM7s?! Do you have a sku?
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 @cogsci: It’s the current blue/black shoe. The previous grey, green or black shoe had a far wider toe box. I’ve got three pairs! I bought a pair of the 2020’s but sold them after one ride.
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 @jclnv: wow, I did not know. Thanks for the info, I was just about to buy them. What shoes are you using? I bought the new Pearl Izumi high tops hoping they would be wide. They do feel a little better than five tens but the grip is very poor.
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 @cogsci: I use clips so the previous AM7’s - www.pinkbike.com/news/shimano-am7-shoes-review.html
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 I seriously think these shoe companies need to make some wide models. Nothing fits my feet, please make some wide shoes someone! Pleeeeeaaasassssseeeesesesese
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 I feel your pain literally. The only MTB specific shoes I have found that actually run wide in the toe box is shimano sh-gr500. I still remove the liner for more room and run thin socks. This has been the best solution I have found so far.
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 Will they last longer than 5.10's? I love everything about my 5.10's except that I cant seem to get a full season out of them before the sole tear open. I tried other brand such as the Pearl Izumi ones (hot garbage), so am reluctant to try another brand. Specialized, if the sole is more durable and anywhere near the grip of a 5.10, its a winner.
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 Seriously. Is there any way to get the 5.10s resoled? My uppers are totally fine and the sole is basically gone.
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 @withdignityifnotalacrity: You'd probably have luck with a climbing shoes resole shop. They generally charge about $50, might be a bit more or less for mtb flats.
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 @adamweld: I'm not sure they can resole your 5.10's but it might be worth investigating. 5.10's are built like typical running shoes where the upper is stitched directly to the lower, vs climbing shoes are actually "re-soled" but they don't need to essentially make you an entire new shoe
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 @withdignityifnotalacrity: there's a few places in the UK that do it for sure. That's resoled with Stealth rubber.
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 5.10 used to actually sell replacement soles for their mtb shoes back in the day. I found a pair in my cupboard recently but they obviously are too brittle to be used now.
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 Make the shoe stiff or it's pointless. I rode the original 2F0, it was great, but it's bene hit or miss finding shoes that don't get soft over time. I'm in a Northwave Clan now, great shoe, grippy sole, durability is good, stffness is excellent even after break in, but it could use some width in the toebox.
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 Just now starting to get pin wear in the sole of my clans after nearly two years. Excellent shoe, will likely buy again. I would actually like to try these, but my knees don't get along with the varus wedge of the Body Geo concept. I actually used a valgus wedge in my 2FO Cliplite before calling it quits on clips.
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 All that “R & D” and the shoes still have a narrow toe box, hard pass. I have yet to find any MTB specific shoe wider in the toe box than the shimano sh-gr500. I still have to remover the liner, but they work.
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 All the biomechanical research of the last ten years shows that there is no basis for the arbitrarily narrow shoe designs out there today. The cycling industry is decades behind.
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 @cogsci:
Yeah they are definitely behind the times with shoe technology. So much attention is put into the wrong areas when it comes to designing the shoes.
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 The first 5.10s i ordered , in fact the first ever branded as 5.10- were suede too. They never looked clean but despite that suede was fine. (They held up about 6 years i think)
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 I don't understand why - besides style and convention - a clipless-compatible mtb shoe needs to be styled like a flat-pedal shoe, except with the center cut out for a cleat. Is the perimeter of the pedal coming into all-around contact with the sole? Do people really do that much pedaling and riding while not clipped in?

More succinctly - what does a shoe like a 2FO Roost Clip do, that an Expert XC shoe doesn't do better?

(I ride Look-style for road, XT trail clipless for cx, and flats for mtb.)
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 I loved my specialized 2FO's and I will likely buy the clipless version here, but I would install my own insole. Putting a Varus wedge into every shoe seems like a large assumption for pronators versus supinators and for people with different lower leg alignment and hip width to bottom bracket width. Interesting take from specialized.
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 I picked up a pair of these after almost dying (kidding) riding some new RC Vice at an enduro race, I blew my feet off the pedals multiple times. I have been riding some freeride pros for the last year and they are the gold standards for me.I just rode these tody at my bike park and let me tell you the grip is on another level, definitely better that 5-10s, mind blown.
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 do all mountain bike shoes have to be this clunky and obtuse? These look like orthopedic shoes. I say it doesn't have to be this way. Allow me to present exhibit#1 five ten Trailcross. Why not?
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 look like pretty regular sneakers with slightly thicker soles imo. Speaking of thicker soles, you will need them while riding chromag daggas or similar longpined pedals.
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 What size heel do you want, 2-3in? Pointed or open toes? Thigh high leather numbers or slip on?
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 As a 5.10 Freerider and Trailcross owner:

Trailcross great for rides where you are not likely to hit your feet on stuff. They are very breathable and dry amazingly fast. For a long non technical day they are great.

Freeriders great protection of your feet, but more weight and they dry about as slow as possible.

My Trailcross are my everyday shoes I wear them all the time, the only other issue is the rubber wears pretty fast, mine are 6 months old and the ball of my foot is wearing thin. They are so comfortable that I plan to just buy another pair.
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 Clunky 510s have saved my feet and toes from minor injury. I actually used my old 510 impact sam hills for dirt biking a few weeks ago because the sole of my work boots that I usually moto in was separating. It was an epiphany, it was so much better than any boots I've used before. In deep ruts and the like where foot smashing can occur I was more nervous but I'm going to keep using them.
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 @kcy4130: Dude please buy real moto boots! Real boots are soooo much more protective than sneakers or five tens or even work boots. You can probably find some decent ones used, that's what I did. You're gonna be pissed when you break your foot because you were dirt biking in five tens.
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 @EEH3: to be fair, what you're asking is for shoe designs to pretty much copy their competitors.

The Trailcross is kind of unique in that it's a sporty shoe, more akin to a Clip Shoe, but with a flat sole. What's funny is that for a long time that "riding in sneakers" look was the laughing stock of the MTB world, back when everyone rode 5.10 Freeriders.

Me? I'd love a technical (ie protective), stiff soled, grippy version of a New Balance 574.
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 @PHeller: new balance 806. Saw a dude on nsmb talking them up and grabbed a pair on special. They are sick for riding. I still like my spec 2fo but the nb are great. Trainers over skate style shoes for me all day.
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 Sign me up for "additional models with a higher level of protection and different closures" !
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 These would be great if I wanted my cleats right under my toes. If the model has his cleats slammed all the way back, maybe would've been good to move the cleat pocket back?
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 I can't speak to these exact shoes, but I can say that slammed all the way back on the 2FO cliplites is pretty far back
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 I have the last year clipless shoes 2fo and have to say they are one step above wearing Crocks in the rain and have the breathability of a rain boot in the dry. Such an oxymoron shoe. Hope this one is better. I like the look of it, then again I am old man 40 haha
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 *correction i have the flat shoe not clipless
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 Not related to to the article but can anyone recommend a company making size 13 Wide flats? I'm using size 14 5.10s right now but I want to get something that fits a bit better
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 Size 13 5.10 shoes aren’t wide enough??? Then maybe you need custom shoes. I have to put at least 2 insoles in my 14 free rider pros to make up for all the extra width. But I’m more of a long foot than a big foot.
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 There is such a huge shortage of wide shoes in mountain biking right now it is ridiculous.
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 Spesh gear is great...lets hope these continue the trend...those laces are too big tho and will get soaked and hold too much water.
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 Why does nobody make a good high top shoe? Like the freerider pros in a high or midtop. It would have much better support and protection.
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 I’ve got a pair of the 2f0 flats from 2 years ago. Grip has been fine. Liked the neoprene ankle. My only gripe is the eyelets. They ALL need to be reinforced. Mine gave out within a year.
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 Wait, so the the flat pedal version doesn't have the lace tucky thing? What the hell?
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 They have the lace tucky thing.
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 I didn't notice that. Ridiculous. What the hell indeed.
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 Like @GaryGets said, they do have the lace holder.
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 This 'Get off my Lawn' comment sponsored by Metamucil:

Laces on cycling shoes are STUPID.

Fight me... But not on my lawn!
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 FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WOULD JUST ONE COMPANY MAKE A FLAT PEDAL SHOE THAT IS GOOD FOR WINTER???
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 The flatpedalshoe looks great, maybe finally a shoe which comes close to my beloved vans gravel (RIP)
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 they definitely look better with a little dirt on 'em
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 But do these have a fair amount of pedal feel? My last flat shoes I couldn't feel the pedal at all and it's the worst...
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 I like em...
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 “Jimmy, do you like Oak?”
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 I come from Vital, they use the exact same words 'cracked the code' when speaking of the rubber, making clear those are Specialized's words. Stinks.
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 Nope, that's just a funny coincidence - Johan and I both used the same phrase independently of each other.
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 Hope they’re built better than the cliplite 2fo’s I bought that fell apart after 10 rides.
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 Why can't cycling companies make anatomically designed shoes like Altra? Why would you want to force your toes into such a small shape like an approach shoe?
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 Makes shoe with hydrophobic liner...gives it suede outer. Classic.
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 No BOA, No Buy.
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 I have the green and yellow ones aka the new ones. They are far superior in construction. Check them out.
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 Looks like a stan smith...
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 if these shoes were a person and they mugged you, good look describing them to the police..
Taupe? Jesus...
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 Is this just me, or the cleats are super forward on the shoe?
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 Well, I don't hate them...
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 "subtle colors and minimal branding"

off-season April Fools from Spesh?
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 Had me at "Landing strip".
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 No BOA?
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 Boa seems cool until it breaks.
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 @nickgarrison: but its lifetime warranty just order one of each side whennyouvlurchase them and that's it even easier and faster to replace than lace.
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 @nickgarrison: I have the BOA's on my 2FO Cliplite and and love them. I had the 2FO Cliplite Lace for a lonnng time and it was good but hands down prefer the BOA. I have had them 3 Seasons now BOAS Still intact. My friend has had a BOA break sent his shoe back to the manufacturer and they replaced it for free. Different strokes....I'd just pull the trigger on a BOA version right now if it was available is all I am saying.
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 @ybsurf: When you purchase is the key. Otherwise your f'd Smile
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 @ybsurf: personally, I’d prefer to never have to deal with a warranty. I don’t think i have ever had a shoe lace fail in my entire life.
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 @nickgarrison: I've never had a boa fail in my entire life...but I've had several shoe laces fail ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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 @hbar314: how many years have you worn shoes with boa vs with laces?
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 @Dustfarter: no anytime you write to boa website and within a few days you get them, it's just good to get extra a time of purchase so you can still use them no need to wait for them to be shipped. Just need the model of the shoes and they are on their way no charge.
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 @hbar314: I’ve certainly had a lace break...thankfully it’s an easier trail side fix than boa crap.
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 @ybsurf: You really think it is easier and faster to deal with warranty, ordering and having a boa system shipped to you than changing laces? You are really making out lacing a shoe to be way more complicated and time consuming than it is, you need a job as an actor in an infomercial.
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 @nickgarrison: Between mtn biking and snowboarding (which has multiple boas) decades.
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 @RonSauce: You say changing laces...did you mean the boa lace or the spare old timey lace? I watched how to change the boa lace and it looks like it wouldn't be much different in time on the side of the trail. Though, I don't know anyone who thinks to bring a boa lace or an old timey lace with them in their bag. Probably need to add that to the bag now that I think about it.
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 @RonSauce: you order them before they fail... it's called be prepared. I always have one sitting at home in case I break one like I'm sure you do the same with a regular shoe lace. It's called a back up you should try it's kinda nice to be prepared
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 @hbar314: my only exposure to boa was on snowboarding boots. I went back to laces because it seemed like they just got loose too easy/often.
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 So, not 5.10's?
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 All mtb shoes NEED a neoprene cuff.
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 But then it won't look cool at the pub, as if grown men wear shoes like this in public.
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 @JockoJones I am 100% with you, maybe not out of neoprene, but just some cuff/gaiter really helps with keeping dirt and small rocks out of your shoes. I am rocking a pair of Shimano GR7 for this reason, though I am in the market for a new pair of riding shoes now.
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 @NordicRider: just get new GR7s! One of the best.
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 @JockoJones: do you know if they have changed anything on the updated ones? Mine are the bright blue ones. I was originally looking at 5.10, but they don't have a cuff/gaiter unless I go for the trail cross mid pro, but they are fairly pricy with a fairly poor toebox at least from what I can tell.
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