In 2018, Yeti rolled out three new bikes, the SB100, SB130, and SB150, a trio of 29ers that cover the bases from downcountry all the way to enduro. The SB6 was left to hold down the fort as the longest travel 27.5” bike in Yeti's lineup, a position it had maintained for the last four years. That is, until today, when the SB165 steps in to take its place.
As the name implies, the SB165 has 165mm of coil-sprung rear travel, with a 180mm fork up front. Yeti says it's for “hucking, sending, and enduro-ing,” which all seem like fitting uses for a bike with this much travel, and such long and slack geometry numbers.
Yeti SB165 Details• Wheel size: 27.5"
• Travel: 165mm / 180mm fork
• Carbon frame
• 63.5° head angle
• 433mm chainstays
• Weight: 32 lb / 14.5 kg (size large)
• Price: $7,699 USD as shown (T2 model)
• Lifetime frame warranty
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www.yeticycles.com There are three complete Turq series models, with prices ranging from $7,199 up to $8,799 USD for the T3 model. All of the Turq bikes come with the same suspension components – a Fox Factory Float 36 fork and a DHX2 coil shock – it's the drivetrain and brakes that change as the price goes up. There's also a SRAM AXS upgrade option for riders who want to go the wireless electronic route.
Yeti also offers two models in their C series, which use a 220 gram heavier frame, but are said to still deliver the same strength and stiffness. The C series bikes are both equipped with a Fox Performance 36 and a Vanilla coil shock; the difference between the two models, which are priced at $5,599 and $6,199, is in in the wheels and drivetrain.
Want to build up your dream bike from scratch? The SB165 frame and shock will set you back a whopping $3,999.
Frame Details & Suspension Design The SB165 strikes a similar silhouette to the SB150 and 130, but the frame as a whole has a beefier appearance, especially around the headtube. Want to run a 180mm dual crown fork? That's allowed. How about setting it up as a
mullet bike, with a 29" front wheel? Sure, you can do that too, although the head angle will get even slacker and the bottom bracket will get higher depending on the fork length.
There's plenty of room for a water bottle, which is good news, since even freeriders get thirsty sometimes. The seat tube heights are low enough to accommodate longer travel dropper posts - the size L and XL frames come with a 175mm Fox Transfer post, the medium has a post with 150mm of drop, and 125mm for the smallest frame size.
Not surprisingly, the SB165 employs Yeti's Switch Infinity suspension design. If you're not familiar with the concept, it uses a translating pivot that moves upwards in the beginning of the travel, and then downwards deeper in the travel. That change in position is intended to give the bike enough anti-squat for supportive pedaling, while reducing the amount of feedback delivered by bigger hits.
The Kashima coated rails and the sliding mechanism that make up the heart of the Switch Infinity design are the same size on the SB130, 150, and 165 – it's the location in the frame and the amount that the carrier moves that's different. Yeti wanted the SB165 to work well with coil-sprung shocks, so they adjusted the kinematics to give it a 27.5% leverage ratio progression; compare that to the SB150, which sits at 15%. The higher number means that the bike ramps up more as it goes through its travel, which should help prevent it from bottoming out too often. Of course, that'll depend on how far you take your hucking and sending.
The SB165 has a more progressive suspension curve than the SB150, and all complete models come with a coil shock.
Geometry The SB165's reach numbers are nearly identical to those of the SB130 and 150, ranging from 430mm on a size small all the way up to 505mm on an XL. To balance out those long reach numbers, the SB165 has a 77-degree seat tube angle, which helps keep the seated pedaling position from feeling too awkward and stretched out.
At 433mm the chainstays are on the shorter side, and the length remains the same for all sizes. I wouldn't mind seeing longer chainstays on the larger sizes, or at least the option to alter the length depending on personal preference. We're seeing more companies add in some level of chainstay adjustability, but it's still far from the norm. Maybe someday.
It's the headtube angle that really puts the SB165 into the seek and destroy category – at 63.5-degrees it's 1-degree slacker than the SB150. That's a number that would have seemed extreme just a few years ago, but an increasing number of bikes are inching into that sub-64 degree zone, a territory formerly only occupied by smaller European brands like Nicolai and Pole.
I thought for sure the word 'freeride' would appear somewhere in Yeti's description of the SB165, but no matter how hard I looked I couldn't find it. They refer to it as a 'rip' bike, as opposed to a 'race' bike, which sort of makes sense, but I'm going to stick with calling it a modern freeride bike. It's lighter and much more pedal friendly than anything we used to lug around during the height of the freeride era, but the intended use is still the same – seek out the gnarliest descents possible and figure out a way to get down them in one piece.
ClimbingThe SB165's climbing manners aren't quite as refined as the SB150's, and there was a little more suspension movement when I stood up out of the saddle to pedal, likely due to the combination of the coil shock and the different leverage ratio. The compression lever is easy to reach, though, and I'd usually flip it into the firmer setting when faced with one of the extended logging road climbs that are common in my area.
The actual seated pedaling position was comfortable enough to maintain for hours at a time, and I ticked off some fairly substantial days of pedaling without any issues. Of course, the point of all that pedaling was almost always to reach a burly downhill – the SB165 feels out of place on mellower terrain, similar to the way that super-fat powder skis aren't the best on groomers. Yes, they work, but there are better tools for the job.
DescendingOnce gravity takes over the SB165 wakes right up, and it'll make short work of pretty much any obstacle that gets in its way. I'll admit, I'm partial to 29ers these days, but there was something extra-satisfying about whipping the Yeti's 27.5” wheels into a tight turn. The combo of a long front center and a relatively short back end made it easy to break the rear wheel free whenever I wanted to get sideways, or to carve turns down a steep chute. A little extra attention is required on flatter corners, though; I had a few moments where it felt like the front end wanted to wash out because I'd let my weight get too far over the back of the bike.
There's a fine balance between creating a bike that progressive enough to avoid bottoming out too easily, and one that ramps up so much that it feels like you're hitting a wall part way through the travel. Thankfully, the SB165 falls into the former category - if felt like there was just enough ramp up to deal with bigger hits, and excellent traction on slippery, loose terrain. I did notice that the Fox DHX2 felt like it was topping out a bit on my last ride - I'll update this article or the longer term review if that turns out to be an issue.
Other than that, the component spec is exactly what you'd hope to see on a bike of this caliber. There's plenty of power from the Code RSC brakes and 200mm rotors front and rear, and the alloy DT Swiss EX1700 wheels are holding up well. I've also been having very good luck with Maxxis' EXO+ tires - that additional SilkShield layer seems to do the trick when it comes to warding off pinch flats and casing slices.
Up until this point I've been riding the SB165 on more secluded trails in an effort to keep it under wraps, but now that the cat's out of the bag it's time to see how it handles a steady diet of bike park laps and even bigger pedal-accessed descents. Look for a follow-up report later this year.
An abdominal snowman, thank you, thank you.
By icicle.
No idea...
With money he saved in a snow bank.
If I have an opinion and want to post it I do without looking even if its been commented 100 times before me.
145mm 27.5" jib machine...count me in...
After riding a 180/170mm Capra last year and going to a 203mm Tues this year, I’ll say the DH bikes definitely will always have their place. When the bike park gets rough and rowdy sometimes you need a machete instead of a scalpel. Sure you can ride a 170mm bike down anything but it’s definitely a lot less forgiving when things get rough, at least in my experience. I suck though and appreciate the bike making up for some of my lack of talent.
Yes, I was hoping for a 170 or 180mm 27.5.
Ill sell 3 years from now... Take a loss as you always do! And go and buy my next frame... That's the name of the game.
I've never sold a bike for 50% off...
Never had a bike up longer than 6 months..
Sure, I deal with the Wakis that tell me the bike isn't worth what I'm asking given the year.. I simply tell them to move along then.. The bike will sell.. And they always do.
Read it if you get the chance to. It's both infuriating and interesting.
I also want this bike and I am not a dentist.
If you mean that medicine in general can also be unscientific, and that dentistry is being unfairly singled out, I'm all ears.
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Add in more stringent emission controls, some added weight from extra safety mechanisms, heavier auxiliary loads plus higher average speeds in the US.
It's easy to see where the small remaining difference goes.
It seems like a rather expensive machine given the shed load of abuse that comes with its intended use. I would shred harder on a cheaper Aluminium bike, knowing that I wouldn't be damaging a Carbon frame & switch infinity system.
As far as I can remember, Yeti cycles + Freeride = Dangerous Dan riding the Yeti DH9 on skinnies in the 2nd (or 3rd) season of Drop In. That's pretty old now.
Yeti's HQ is right next to huge Rocky mountains. I'm sure if it can survive CO, it can survive most places. I've had no issues with my Yetis in the 10800 ft mtns next to my city.
"Living in an alpine region doesn't mean it's inherently indestructible." Bikes don't live, they exist. But being developed in a very rocky place with everything from DH to epic continental divide riding gives the manufacturer some street cred. PS: I don't own any mountains.
Me borrowing my buddy's 2009 Kona Stinky Deluxe and hucking it off a small cliff is a freeride. Me buying an SB165 and hucking it off a small cliff is a 10k-ride.
Again.. Its not about wealth, but priorities..
Again... What's a tribe meeting?
U can make ur money last by making sound investment choices that has your money growing in the 6-11% range and still enjoy the finer things in life.. Also cutting back in other areas helps.. Its not that difficult.
@bohns1: maybe I'm overestimating how much needs to be buried in a box in the garden before I can rest easy as a self-employed slacker. What kind of investment would you recommend?
And people like me keep buying them because we can... sorry to drive the price up bro!
Their frames aren't that much more than any other boutique branded bike.. Ie Santa cruz Ibis.
Life's short
All about priorities.
I’m not getting all this Pinkbike gushing. Santa Cruz didn’t get this type of fanfare with the HT2 or MagaTower
Yeti: You want a bigger bike?
Everyone: No that's not what we...
Yeti: sb165
This seems like a _fun_ bike. It goes up well enough you don't want to shoot yourself halfway up the climb, and on the way down you get to actually interact with the trail, picking lines, popping off jibs, tossing the back-end around, generally having fun, and all at normal person speeds. Put big wheels on it, and sure it might go marginally faster (which, yes is _huge_ for pro racers), but it's also a shit-ton more work for the average rider to actually enjoy without risking full race-pace commitment on every run.
So, yes, big wheels on this kind of geometry and suspension would plow over and through almost everything, and do it at Mach Stupid, but at that point your either a pro, or you should just get a f*cking e-bike and turn your brain off completely.
Arguably, a brand new rider might not know that, but that's because you've all been telling us how 29ers are the best choice for everything because they are monster trucks and make things so easy, even if they aren't as "playful" (to use an "industry term"). And now all of a sudden we're told this 27er is better because it's not as much of a monster truck, it's "playful", you get to actually think and pick lines and jib and drift and have fun.
From the outside, it looks like everything new is the best, and the past is too quickly forgotten, or even ignored. Is the next LT 29er review going to whine that it's not as "playful" as a bike like this? Gonna put that in the Cons column even though it didn't seem to matter enough to tip the scales before?
Like I mentioned in the video, you can definitely race this bike.
Don't mistake, I've really enjoy riding a bunch of solid 29's, but the 27.5 equivalent has always been better for me and I'd like the option to keep it around. When every review of new bikes only pushes 29ers, and you list traits of 27.5 bikes as being a negative for simply not being a 29er of course the uninformed public are going to steer in the that direction, and just based on the above comments there's no denying the bias recently. Do you know the amount of customers I've spoken to recently who thought they should buy a 29er but had no idea why, in many cases being the complete opposite of how they actually liked to ride?
But here's the main point: you can't say 'pick the bike that makes you happiest' when you don't have that option anymore.
Wheel size does still matter because of plain old physics and the human form. Given same/similar tires and bike designs, bigger wheels _will_ roll-over easier and carry momentum, which is good because they will also take more input to change direction. Smaller wheels will fall into holes a bit easier, but _are_ easier to change direction to avoid said holes. Those are facts about the differences.
And can't forget that big wheels also just won't fit for some shorter people. It seems that pro racers are willing to make the sacrifice of maybe buzzing their ass on a big back wheel , but most regular riders would probably rather not risk that for a marginal increase in speed (although the incoming flood of mullet bikes shows that a decent number of pros are NOT willing to risk it).
Also, sometimes getting the bar height down far enough with a 29er fork up front just can't be done on smaller size bikes. At least without extreme stem and bar bullshit, but you guys would tear-apart any trail bike with an inverted stem or bar on looks alone, even if it's the proper fit for a size small or XS 29er. Of course, that brings up the fact that bar height is a mostly-ignored geometry stat yet is pretty damn important for both comfort and performance, but that's another story there...
If the wheel size debate is silly, stop mentioning which size you like or don't in reviews, _especially_ in a review of a bike with the opposite of your preference. Don't mention "the 29 inch wheels make it a monster truck", just say "this bike plows!" Don't suggest a certain bike might be a better fit for _your_ preference if it had a different wheel size. Every time a reviewer does this things, it proves that wheel size debate/choice is still a thing. If it wasn't a big deal, you wouldn't "prefer 29ers", you'd just "prefer bikes with maximum monster-truck-ability", which just happens to be 29ers right now.
Yes, of course fun is subjective, but the author literally said this bike was "extra-satisfying" to toss into corners, immediately after mentions he prefers 29ers. That implies it's more fun than a 29er at that kind of riding. Instead of basing that comparison around the wheel size, why can't it just stand on its own?
"This bike is more fun to toss into corners than some recent awesome race oriented bike that is probably a 29er but doesn't have to be>". Instead of "i like 29ers (for unlisted reasons) but this bike is 27er and is more fun (reasons coming up!) in some situations because it's easier to toss around"
Yesterday I rode again after 2yrs or so my '09 Giant Anthem X 26" bike and I thought "F#@!..what a ride!!"
Really?? well i guess it's more progressive that a Nomad LOL. Surely it's a big lads enduro bike....know your market Yeti, you sell to rich boys who want to stand out from their SC buddies outside the cake shop in Surrey on a Sunday morning.
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Climbing yes.
Descending. Oh yes.
Fun.
32 pounds.
4000$ for the frame.
Condensed review.
Whats that for, I thought these yeti boys just cadge someone elses.
The triangle(s?) have to be common with their other bikes. Seems like a ton of money in molds for something that is not going to sell in any kind of numbers. I can’t see many shops taking the risk on having this thing gather dust while 130’s and 150’s still turn quickly.
Plus the biggest huck most of these will ever do is the “huge drop” at the local skills park.
Good on Yeti for making this. Surprised a small company took a risk on this. I’m more surprised about this than the Ibis ebike that they are playing around with. Maybe they know something.
Honestly I see it way more interesting than SB130 or 150 as I am more happy on 27,5". Another point to sell this easier is that you don´t have feel bad to take it to bikepark every weekend. So for me this wins easily in the choice for one bike for everything and I am sure I am not alone. Many of riders don´t race, so they don´t need enduro race rig on 29. But they want bike they can ride on the trails around in week and to shred the gnar on in a bikepark on weekends without smashing the wheels or crack it in half
Now I'm not saying the GG and the Yeti frames are 100% apples to apples here. The Yeti is full carbon and I would believe without firsthand knowledge that the Switch Infinity is "better" to some degree than the Horst link GG. (though based on this review for intended use, "freeride" they are probably just about apples to apples? He flipped the swtich on the shock to climb just like you'd do to any HL bike?
On a side note, I went to the Yeti website to look at their other build costs and the Black frame with the Orange coil = SWEET looking ride... It's a subtle difference, but the 165 has more organic curves VS the straight and angular lines of the 130/150 frames. Cause ya know, Aesthetics
Never mind me.
For sure "FlexGate"
We agree that Yeti's frame prices seem too expensive! BUT they seem to be selling bikes... It's disappointing to me that their new frame is even more expensive than the last two. I'd hope they would have done a "Trust" thing and said now that they've been making this new style frame for awhile they'd figured out how to make them easier/cheaper and lowered "all" their frame prices a few hundred bucks, (which by the way Trust we all know is BS and they just weren't selling enough so you cut your margin), to bring their prices more in line. BUT they seem to be selling bikes...
The Apples to Apples thing from my perspective; the Yeti is full carbon and that costs more, and you can't discount the engineering that goes into the Switch Infinity. (whether it's actually better or not I don't know) There has been a lot of R&D into that over the years and that's a much more involved process than starting with a working Horst Link that most people are fine with and then tuning.
AND ALSO... I didn't realize the frame only GG prices are WITHOUT a SHOCK... Ya kind of need one of those...? I assumed they were still coming with the base RT air shock for 2200.00. STILL a good deal adding in the shock price and you can't beat the shock selection/choice, but that's a bit of corporate used car salesman bait and switch marketing bullshit that I hate to see from a company that seems so cool. I'd much rather see an HONEST base frame price at 2450.00. (2900.00 with a DHX2) And that wouldn't stop them from still letting you click "no shock" and buying it for 2200.
However, it still doesn't seem like an SB 165 frame is 1100.00 better than a GG Smash frame...
As you said, Yeti sells bikes. Just like Yeti sells coolers. Is it really that much better? That is to each individuals interpretation and how you want to spend your money. But, in my opinion, your also buying into the brand, marketing, customer service and so much more.
I personally feel the SB165 is a boutique bike and don't think Yeti will sell as many as a SB 150, 130 or 100. Just like the Kona Process 165. (a big reason why you still may see brand new KP 165 for sale that are a few years old and brand new) It's a great bike but a small niche of riders who want a single crown park bike or do a ton of shuttling. Again - this is my own speculation because mid travel bikes have become so capable these days (take the SB130 or Trail Pistol for example) and punch above their weight class.
I hear you when you say frame prices are without a shock. This is a bit loaded but it all comes down to the choice of the rider. Buyers may feel like it is switch in bait because we have been normalized to think you have to buy a bike with a shock. Why should i spend 3 or 4 grand on a bike to get a freaking Deluxe RT?A lot of riders will settle for what the frame comes with but will likely replace or upgrade to something down the road.
it's all about the Freedom of choice to get exactly what you want from the very beginning which is going to be a lot cheaper than settling for a shit shock that you will end up replacing and trying to sell in a saturated used bike part market. Regardless - if you don't want a shock, you're getting a carbon frame, made in Denver CO by a bunch of rad dudes for a price that can't be touched by something being shipped over in a shipping container from Taiwan.
Sounds like we are on the same page. At the end of the day, everyone is different. Some want value and some want the name...
Definitely agree that I don't think there is a broad market for this "specific" bike due to niche, high cost, and current market trend. Post directly below "at the moment" points out how this kind of bike, FR/Park but not DH is usually a 3rd, maybe a 2nd bike, and the overwhelming majority of people buying a 3rd bike to go hit big jumps on don't put 6-7 grand into it? (you would have thought Yeti would have put their R&D into an actual DH bike before this? MUCH larger market chomping at the bit for one... ON the flip side I guess they are ready "if" the market shifts back to long and 27.5?
I haven't had the time, (due to all my lenghty posting here). But I would be interested to see what other test experiences there are. I wonder if the general consensus is that it's most suited as a FR bike. OR if there are others who think Super Enduro 27.5 will get a new influx and there will be a lot of these showing up at the EWS over the SB150??
Also, totally on the same page with the brand name zombies and ridiculous priced coolers!
But other than the fun stuff, I wish they would have spent more time on the original sledge hammer, added weight to it like SC did. (and in the end if it's REALLY 300% stronger than it would be way cool to see them add enough weight on the sledge to break an unmarked competitors frame while showing a REVED frame survive!)
The M-series are light trailbike wheels which have no business being on a bike like this.
The mid range M1700 would also be a disgrace on any bike in this price range. I would expect EX 1501 at least.
That means the Clash review is coming soon, right?
Not that I'd know anything about freeride... me=scared of heights!
What you are describing sounds rather like what some people say about the Nomad.
Slayer Reach = 446 (yours would be a little shorter with a 180). Yeti Reach = 480. Your Slayer Seat Tube angle = 73.5. Yeti seat tube angle = 77. Your Slayer HA = 64.5. Yeti HA = 63.5. Your Slayer WB = 1220. Yeti WB = 1255.
I could go on... but those are some very, very different numbers = very, very different bike. Though I'm sure the desperately needed updated Slayer will be closer.
geometrygeeks.bike/compare/yeti-sb165-2020-lg,pivot-firebird-2017-xl
Main points of difference being seat angle and head angle, and the effective top tube being much shorter on the SB165 due to the steeper STA.
I wonder how the FB's STA might change with a slacker HA (from 65 to 63.5 deg)
I do like the fact that you can fit a 2.6 though... previous generation only fit 2.3. I know some fit a 2.5, but they must not be cornering right, I still rub with a 2.3, so good job there yeti!
Downduro surely?
As reach or front center increases, chain stays or rear center should increase. Otherwise balance points just get more forward and the neutral area is much smaller.
My Sb150 is great but in size large with 480 reach the 433 rear is out of balance and the rear end is not as planted and bike not as stable as it could be.
Maybe the standard sizing is a large or medium I'd expect?
I don't understand why it's so hard for them to upsize or downsize a certain percentage for each frame size that varies from the standard? Maybe I'm missing something but it's seems pretty simple.
That aside, yes I'd actually pay a bit more for a bike with a proportional rear centre.
I'd say you aren't missing anything. Sure the longer CS will have more leverage but kinematics would remain the same so all that needs to happen is a higher spring rate or more air on the shock.
I was "mostly" joking around; everyone makes mistakes, etc. BUT, I think whoever the person(s) responsible for releasing a bike saying it would fit a certain size tire and then due to customer complaints had to add a disclaimer might have the word idiot used in reference...?
On a serious note, there were a number of serious riders who found the issue and Yeti's response to the issue less than stellar. (granted, lots of others with no issues!!) So I am genuinely curious if this new bike has lateral FLEX ''tuned in" on purpose again. AND I don't think there's anything wrong with customers wanting an accurate max tire size?
It is an amazing looking bike IMO, (well if the frame was black!). But admittedly, this isn't really a bike I'm in the market for due to cost and intended use so I'll get back to it...
You've either got too stiff a spring on there, too much preload clamped down on the spring, or you simply need to add some rebound damping.
None of this would be an 'issue' with the shock, linkage, and/or bike
What am I missing here?
The writer of this article should get a raise for putting this 8n the article instead of claiming the bike climbs lime an XC bike
And actually yeah: 14,5kg for such a beast is kind of weird, unless they added helium in the tyres and in that plastic frame.
And for what? A typical carbon frame with a suspension system that packs with dust and mud around yet another set of stanchions..
This ain't it chief.
Yeahhhh no
Would be interesting to hear a comparison of it's efficiency to something similar in travel like the Firebird 29, which is more progressive I think but is only made for air shocks... @mikekazimer ?
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Keep going with you miles and galon buddy
Apparently you didn't actually READ the article you linked. The ROC/Taiwan, is not the same as the PRC/China. So NO Taiwan is not China... technically NEITHER of them are China...
Ive spent $55 on a shot of tequila. DGAF cant take it with you
Go for it.
Every time I see a new bike being released I asked myself this: how do you, in America and Europe, do to hide it?
Kona Process 165
What else?
One of the great things about longer reaches is that most riders on most terrain could now go downhill in a mostly neutral position, instead of hanging off the back. This bike, Instead of wearing out your quads and lower back riding the backseat, it's going to toast your arms and shoulders and chest trying to lean forward and ride the fork like a motocross bike. Aaron Gwin or Eliot Jackson would probably get along great with this bike, but a lot of riders are going to find themselves sore in quite different places than usual after riding this bike for a while.
I actually just upgraded my reach with a new frame and have smashed my abdomen on the stem a couple times when really pushing it, because my arms aren't quite used to taking that much of the load quite yet. On the plus side I could instantly go faster uphill because my legs aren't completely worn out from holding way-off-the-back positioning when descending. It's just about perfect geo for me and my trails. I might want a little more reach if there were more super-steep descents to save the legs even more, but the few chutes that do make this reach feel a tad small aren't enough to force the trade-off between that and having to work to load the front on the awesome flat turns we also have around here.
It does bring up the "how long is too long?" question. The guys from The Path Podcast touched on it a bit in episode 100, could be worth a listen.
I wouldnt give a damn- every new bike depreciates like a rock falling off a cliff....buy what makes you happy and enjoy riding- thats what counts
Everywhere you look there are manufacturers that offer either distinct 27.5" and 29" options, or unified platforms that support both wheel sizes. The big four all offer 27.5" DH bikes.
I can imagine RR riding such a setup, tried something similar, and couldn't find any drawbacks so far.
500mm Reach and 430mm chainstays...yeah have fun with no grip on the front.
geometrygeeks.bike/bike/yeti-sb165-2020
crown length of the 29x160 is the same as the 27.5x180, but you also need to account for 18mm difference in wheel radius. Factoring in differences in sag, a 29x150mm front would probably get your very close, and a 29x160mm would put the head angle below 63°.
I'm that annoying guy that gets a new bike and then goes around telling everyone how great it is.
So I'll add its a f-load cheaper too.
- that's what she said"