First Ride: 2021 Canyon Sender CFR

Aug 11, 2020
by Dan Roberts  



It hasn't exactly been a secret that a new DH bike was in the works from Canyon. Teaser shots ranging from potato quality to professional shoots in a wind tunnel have been out there for a while already, driving a lot of speculation and internet chatter.

Finally, Canyon have pulled the curtain on their new Sender CFR and released all the details regarding their new bike.

With a clear primary focus as a race bike, the Canyon team set out over the past nearly three years to make project M082, Canyon's internal name for the Sender, lighter, more controlled and ultimately faster.

Sender CFR Details
• Wheel Size: S & M 29" F & 27.5" R / L & XL 29" F & R
• Carbon fibre composite mainframe, chainstay and seatstay with aluminium links
• 200mm travel
• 63° head angle
• 485mm reach (size L)
• 435mm (+10mm) chainstay S & M, 445mm (+10mm) L & XL
• Weight: 34.77 lb / 15.77 kg (size L CFR w/o pedals)
• Price: CFR version €5,799 or $5,799 USD, CFR FMD version €4,699 or $4,699 USD
canyon.com





Frame Details

2021 Canyon Sender CFR Photo Ga tan Rey Shaperideshoot
The original shape is still recognisable and the new Sender CFR, while being completely new from front to back, is more of a refinement rather than a fresh start.
2021 Canyon Sender CFR Photo Ga tan Rey Shaperideshoot
The split seat tube remains, but with the shock mounted to the down tube it needs less additional reinforcement in the frame to cope with the shock forces than if it were mounted to the top tube. The lower shock and links also lower the bike's center of gravity.

The silhouette of the original Sender is still there, but Canyon have been through the whole bike from front to back over the past nearly three years. In that time another large brand has also adopted the same layout and suspension configuration.

Perhaps the most noticeable change, and the one most talked about, is the change in shock position. The previous bike had the shock mounted on the top tube, which meant that tube had to deal with all the shock forces. Moving the shock to mount on the down tube means it's connected to an inherently stiff and strong part of the main frame, requiring less additional reinforcement to make it cope with the shock forces. The lower of the two shock driving links also connects to the down tube now for the same reasons and its pivot can be accessed underneath the bolt on down tube protector.

Taking that need for reinforcement off the top tube and seat tube enabled Canyon to save some weight, and they sought to match the overall frame stiffness to the old bike, which was reportedly at a level favored by the racers.

At the rear of the bike, the chainstay and seatstay are now made from carbon fiber composite, and this is where the bikes sees the biggest weight savings. Frame weight is apparently down by over 650g compared to the previous version, with the frame coming in at 3.2kg. 300g of this came from the mainframe changes with the shock placement change and smaller seat tube box construction. Changing the rear triangle material, reducing the drop out and seatstay bridge volume yielded around 200g of weight saving and playing with the design and shape of the MX aluminum links saved a further 150g.

2021 Canyon Sender CFR Photo Ga tan Rey Shaperideshoot
None of the pivot axle threads are in the frame, leading to an easier composite construction and easy fixing if a thread becomes damaged. The threaded inserts do thread into the frame, however, but will stay in place when you're working on the bike.
2021 Canyon Sender CFR Photo Ga tan Rey Shaperideshoot
Canyon's custom brake mount uses a 200mm disc and moves to fit the corresponding chainstay length that you're in.

All the pivot bolts thread into replaceable inserts in the frame, to avoid threading directly into the frame and make manufacturing a little easier. Those threaded inserts are then bolted into the frame with tiny screws, which at least keeps them captive when you're working on the bike. All the small pivot parts are available to purchase separately in the Canyon online shop. The large seat tube pivot is still separated, allowing the seat tube to wrap around the shock, while the lower main frame to chainstay connection is a through axle system. The pivots all use seals to guard the bearings from dirt and moisture and keep them running smoother for longer.

The brake mount bolts on to the inside of the seatstay and has two mounting options to line up with the corresponding chain stay length, but bolt access means you have to take the rear wheel off to swap or check the brake mount bolt tightness.

Cable routing is all internal in both the main frame and rear triangle, with a small portion around the chainstay to main frame pivot where the cables exit the main frame. Tubes molded in the frame allow easy routing, but I'm not sure how many World Cup mechanics were asking for internal routing and mandatory brake bleeding.

Frame protection is plentiful, with rubberised chain stay upper and lower coverage as well as the inside of the seatstay. There's also stick on clear frame protection around the main foot rub areas on the rear.

2021 Canyon Sender CFR Photo Ga tan Rey Shaperideshoot
Molded rubber protection is all over the chainstay and seatstay. The chainstay protector has the familiar serrated design.
2021 Canyon Sender CFR Photo Ga tan Rey Shaperideshoot
All cables are internal and enter on the left side of the frame. Cables are also internal in the chainstay and seatstay. Molded tubes in the frame assist with the routing.





Geometry, Sizing & Adjustability


To bring an even more controlled ride to the new Sender, Canyon increased the frame lengths for all sizes across the board. Front center is upped with an increased reach and a slightly shorter head tube than the previous bike to try and compensate for the larger front wheel and long 29" downhill fork length, although the head tube length increases for each side. The head angle is 63 degrees on all sizes with the 200mm travel 56mm offset RockShox Boxxer fork.

Frames now feature a reach adjust headset with +/- 8mm of reach adjustment. The inserts are drop-in units from Acros and allow the rider to tune the fit and ride feel of the bike and possibly brings in some ability to down or up size with there being less of a gap between sizes, 9mm to be precise, at the extremes of adjustment.

2021 Canyon Sender CFR Photo Ga tan Rey Shaperideshoot
Additional drop-in headset inserts allow the reach to be adjusted by 8mm in either direction, tuning the fit and feel of the bike. Here we've got the bike in the middle, 0mm, adjustment setting.
2021 Canyon Sender CFR Photo Ga tan Rey Shaperideshoot
At the other end, there's 10mm of chainstay length adjustment. All the parts needed to adjust the bike's chainstay are on the bike and just need flipping around.

Sizes range from S to XL with the first two sizes using a mullet wheel setup and the larger two sizes using a full 29" wheel setup. This means that the shorter riders could still take advantage of the larger front wheel while not incurring the trouser clearance issues of a bigger rear wheel.

The S and M size frames have their own main frame and rear triangle compared to the L and XL sizes with their adapted frame for the full 29" setup. S and M have a 435mm chain stay length, with the option to lengthen by 10mm, while L and XL have a 445mm chain stay length with that same ability to add 10mm to the chainstay. That chainstay adjustment window is smaller than the previous bike, which had 16mm of change. Canyon state this was to create a more usable window as some riders felt the previous bikes change in chainstay length was too long and unsettled the bike balance more than they were after.

The seat tube angle is steepened up to allow more clearance to the larger rear wheel, and Canyon go ahead and publish all the necessary information, like seat height and seat tube offset, to show where they envisaged the seat position or where yours might be if you like to run your seat at a different height.

Canyon's geometry file is very detailed and covers every dimension on not only the frame but also in the spec, going into detail with the tires and fork dimensions used to design the frame. S and M size also have a slightly lower rise bar than L and XL.

2021 Canyon Sender CFR Photo Ga tan Rey Shaperideshoot
Even though there are two mount positions for the shock on the links, they're labelled up specific to the wheel size that the bike comes with. Canyon also specifically advises to not adjust the wheel size yourself or change the shock position from the specified one for your delivered wheel size.

One additional point of adjustment at first glance is also the two shock mount positions. Labelled 29" and 27.5", you would think that this enables the bike to be converted from either a mullet setup to a full 29" setup and vice versa. But this isn't the case, and Canyon specifically instructed us that your shock position is fixed to the wheel size that the bike comes delivered with and no adjustability is possible in this. Both frame setups have the same BB height and head angle, so the effects of changing the rear wheel size on the frame would be profound and the linkage adjustment would offer no compensation for this.

The two shock positions on the link are more related to altering the leverage ratio curve of the bike, and Canyon label them up with the curve they advise running for each wheel size setup. It's likely to cause a bit of confusion out in the market, but essentially you should run the bike in the wheel size and shock position setup that the bike arrives with.





Suspension

2021 Canyon Sender CFR Photo Ga tan Rey Shaperideshoot
The Sender CFR uses the mainframe, chainstay, seatstay upper, horizontal link as the four bars of the system. The additional two aluminum MX links drive the shock.

The new Sender carries on with the same suspension system as the previous version with a four-bar layout connecting the rear wheel to the main frame and an extra pair of links used to actuate the shock. As the bike compresses the distance between these two links gets bigger and they pull straight to compensate, compressing the shock in turn. Compared to the previous bike these links have grown in size considerably, and the lower link now mounts to the down tube rather than the seat tube. All the links run on bearings, rather than the floating bushing setup of the previous bike.

2021 Canyon Sender CFR Leverage Ratio amp Pedal Kickback
2021 Canyon Sender CFR in blue with the previous Sender in orange with the leverage ratio changes shown on the left and the reduction in pedal kickback showed on the right.

Canyon massaged the leverage ratio curve to deliver the frame progression a little earlier in the travel. The curve starts and finishes at the same ratios, which aren't measured in mms like Canyon's graph states. The bike hits the lowest leverage ratio earlier in the travel and then has a portion of linearity to the end. Perhaps this was something to do with a certain light and fast Australian who runs an air shock? Canyon were open about Troy Brosnan's involvement, along with the other team racers and mechanics, and the bike was designed with the goal of having him win the World Cup overall aboard this new ride.

The other main point for Canyon was to reduce pedal kickback. Learning from their Disconnect Project, a concept that allowed disengagement of the rear freehub mechanism, they felt they needed to reduce the influence of the chain extension on the rider for the new bike and dropped the maximum amount of pedal kickback. They also experimented with prototypes that had adjustable pivot positions to arrive at this. Due to the drop in pedal kickback the new bike also sees a drop in anti-squat, but with the previous bike's really high anti-squat levels this meant that they had some room to play with. Our test bike also came specced with 24T in the DT Swiss freehub.





Options, Price & Availability

2021 Canyon Sender CFR
Canyon Sender CFR in all black. It's also available in white, red and black.
2021 Canyon Sender CFR FMD
Canyon Sender CFR FMD in green. It's also available in all black.

The new Sender CFR is available only as a complete bike, with two versions of specification, mirroring the two race teams using the Sender bike.

The Sender CFR version follows the Canyon Factory Racing part choice with a RockShox Boxxer Ultimate fork and Super Deluxe Ultimate shock, a SRAM X0 drivetrain and Code RSC brakes handling the go and stop and a DT Swiss DT240/FR560 wheels with Maxxis Minion DHR II tyres front and rear.

The Sender CFR FMD version follows the FMD team part choice with a Fox 40 Performance Elite fork and DHX2 shock, a Shimano Saint drivetrain and brakes and a DT Swiss DT350/FR2020 wheels with Schwalbe Magic Mary tyres.

The CFR version retails for €5,799 or $5,799 USD while the CFR FMD version retails for €4,699 or $4,699 USD.

Currently there are no plans from Canyon to offer an aluminium version of the new Sender, although the previous Sender aluminium version is still available.

The all black Sender CFR and green Sender CFR FMD are available in the US, with the other colours, like the white, red and black bike we have for test, available outside the US.

All bikes are available right now through the Canyon website directly.





Ride Impressions

Canyon weren't lying. I've had three good days of riding so far on the new Sender CFR in Champéry and Morzine and it really is a race bike that only wants to go fast. The first ride down the Champéry World Cup track was at a speed usually reserved for full-on days with reckless abandon and crews of, well, senders. Out of the box this was surprising to say the least.

It is a big bike in comparison to downhill bikes of not that long ago, but I'm feeling comfy when I'm on it with my hands in a very similar position to most of my enduro bikes. This overall bike length contributes to huge straight line speed and control, to the extent that you arrive at corners markedly quicker than on other bikes. That bike length and stability do then require you to be on your game to get it round the corners at the speeds that it wants to go. You definitely need to be a pilot to maneuver it around turns and obstacles, but when you do, it rewards with a simply thrilling ride.

It's not necessarily a bike that likes to slow down and weave around, finding features here and there to up the fun level. Instead, it derives its fun from hitting things at speed with a manner so composed that you want to push back up again and again, hitting the same thing faster and faster each time. I've been riding it so far in the "short" chainstay setting and 0mm reach position on the headset inserts, so it will be interesting to see how the bike's character might change with the increase or reduction in bike length from the front and rear centers.

So far it's doing exactly what it says on the tin. With its constant desire to go fast there's no real pootling around on the new Sender. Mellower trails or sections now have a quietened riding experience, like someone turned the volume down a notch. But you're deceptively still going the same speed as on other bikes. I'm not sure you'd buy a race car to just meander round a track, when you know full well it was built for being driven to within an inch of its life. That said, when tired or with a bit more of a passenger riding style it feels like it will take you for a ride with its single-track mind, as it will still pick up speed between the turns without much input from you. When you're involved with it, piloting the bike, leaning it over hard into the corners, the rewards are tremendous speed and composure, which around this region of the Alps is hugely addictive.

With this addictiveness, thankfully, we've got the Sender CFR for a while to come, with not only a full review to come but also a downhill bike comparison later in the year looking at pitting four of this year’s new downhill bikes against each other objectively with timing, and subjectively with ride impressions.







187 Comments

  • 256 8
 If it turns up and somethings wrong with it, Canyon Sender back ?
  • 15 150
flag vinay (Aug 11, 2020 at 5:18) (Below Threshold)
 Upon arrival, Canyon bikes need a little bit of assembly. This is not wrong, it is supposed to be like that.
  • 59 3
 Comes with a "Return to Sender" label in the box.
  • 78 2
 @vinay: you need coffee, man.
  • 89 2
 @vinay: I think you need to Strive to understand the original comment better.
  • 21 53
flag Bikerdude137 (Aug 11, 2020 at 6:02) (Below Threshold)
 @bigtim: Dude, nobody cares
I'll see myself out
  • 9 1
 It's a Cool F*ckin' Ride. Is that what CFR is meant?
  • 26 1
 @bigtim: some people have a Nerve
  • 24 1
 @pdxkid: Yeah, that'll help get his Neurons working.
  • 36 1
 What are you lot Torquing about?
  • 4 0
 @vinay: slow clap
  • 19 0
 Sender? I hardly even know her!
  • 25 3
 @bigtim: Nobody understood me did they?

To the 16 or so people who downvoted me, the dude is canyons fatbike...
  • 1 0
 @lehott: that's what canyon wishes they could call it
  • 10 5
 @bigtim: Ah, sorry man. I only made the first response to the OP, wasn't aware this was supposed to be a pun thread. That said, I don't think I didn't understand the original comment properly, I just understood it differently.

My thoughts are with the 80 (and counting) whose feelings got hurt...
  • 1 0
 I went straight to the comments and found gold.
  • 2 0
 the clock never lies, but a Stitch in time saves nine
  • 1 0
 @nordland071285: this comment reply section gets better and better...
  • 1 0
 @bigtim: nononono youire not allowed to be this good
  • 1 0
 @bigtim: l think your spectralating a not there matey.
  • 1 0
 I wouldn't worry, I'm sure it'll be Grand
  • 50 1
 FINALLY SOME DH BIKE ARTICLES!!! Very much looking forward to the 4 bike comparison coming up. Thank you Pinkbike!!
  • 12 0
 I miss seeing new DH bikes being released. Long live the fastest bikes
  • 6 0
 I don't know who's more excited, you for the upcoming content or me for riding them?!
  • 1 0
 @dan-roberts: I don't know...I'm pretty excited lol
  • 58 18
 Looks like a demo lol
  • 9 30
flag AD4M (Aug 11, 2020 at 4:07) (Below Threshold)
 Would have said it looks more like an Intense M29 IMO.
  • 42 3
 Which looks like a sender
  • 18 3
 Actually the Demo's link it's a lower and long version of Sender's first link which now has evolved in order to move the shock in the actual position. Anyway it's nearly half the price of the Demo...
  • 35 3
 @flowisforpussies: You all know that this actually looks identical to a Session.
  • 5 3
 aka Banshee Legend
  • 11 7
 new demo its copy designed old sender
  • 3 0
 @MaksVraz: Aka 2007 demo 8
  • 2 2
 Nice looking demo.
  • 1 0
 @southoftheborder: I mean the new demo is a visualy copy of the Legend so i dont get it why you disagree
  • 1 0
 @Noeserd: aka not even closely similar tho
  • 2 0
 @MaksVraz: Different suspension layout for starters, but I guess the similarity is in the eyes of the beholder, to paraphrase a classic saying.
  • 3 0
 @southoftheborder: True that.

I was looking more like visualy LOL
  • 1 0
 You got some funky math going on.@flowisforpussies:
  • 36 0
 I hope this is the edge Troy needs to finish on the top of that podium
  • 7 2
 And a Troy Lee Edge helmet on top.
  • 28 0
 "The clock never lies"
...thats literally their advertisement slogan.
What a very German way to advertise a bike.
  • 31 0
 Ordnung muß sein.
  • 27 0
 Somehow I don't believe the Seagraves are running performance elite forks, lol.
  • 8 1
 They had to move to fox rhythm suspension and shimano deore due to budget cuts
  • 5 1
 I'm wondering why they're not offering a build with a top of the line Fox Factory set up...
  • 4 1
 @bikounet: I'm guessing they'll have a lot more builds next year, as they usually have at least 5. Wouldn't be surprised if they update the AL sender in the near future as well.
  • 21 3
 Brilliant, they go from one custom headset size to another - I think the last one was something like 0.1mm smaller than the standard 1.5" cups everyone in the entire bike industry uses, I found this out when a friend tried to fit an angleset, nearly wrote the frame off trying to fit it before finding out it wasnt the headset oversized, it was Canyon being different for differnt sake. The frame was eventually sold after the second warranty replacement for linkgages falling apart.

Whats the point? Fit a 56/56 headset like commencal and not some kind of custom stuff and you can still get most of the reach and angle adjust and your customers dont have to shop directly with you when they need parts - which results in another saga as spare parts supply is a joke...

/RANT
  • 4 0
 I was chatting with a guy at Dry Hills who's day and week ended short due to the headset on his Sender shitting itself and not being a common quickly replaced part. Almost need to a buy a spare one with the bike so you're not out an entire Whistler trip or something if it goes bad.
  • 8 6
 @slovenian6474: bearings are just bearings and I don´t think they had those custom made in size no one else is using...Headsets in general don´t get damaged cups (like almost never) so I don´t know where´s the problem with buying 2 spare bearings from your LBS.
  • 1 0
 @Mondbiker: To be fair, I'm just repeating what this guy was saying so what do I know. I don't know the amount of damage done to his and didn't even know they use an odd sized headset.
  • 4 0
 @Mondbiker: True that - unless fitting an angleset just get a replacement bearing, though if you do want to change headset being a completely different size to everything else available on the market by such a small measurement that it is mistaken for a common size is just ridiculous - I cant understand why a manufacturer would entertain this and get Acros to make them.
  • 1 0
 @justanotherusername: well, acros seems like the only manufacturer willing to do these one ofs for most german brands.
  • 3 1
 @Mondbiker: I don’t blame Acros, an order is money, why ask them to make a headset 0.1mm smaller than an international standard available for 15+yrs though is a harder question to answer.
  • 5 0
 @justanotherusername: I do blame them a little bit, they could have said f*ck you mate, this is what we make and this is what rest of the indurstry is using, get a clue lol.
  • 22 3
 SA too slack, no place for bottle
  • 15 0
 Ikr? The chainline will probably be messed up by putting a 12 speed on it, canyon wasn't really thinking with this one...
  • 9 0
 Good luck trying to fit a dropper on it
  • 7 0
 My 3.0 plus tires won't fit, terrible engineering.
  • 2 1
 The sarcasm is strong with these ones...
  • 1 0
 @etga6657: *said in yoda voice
  • 18 3
 Somethings about to break
  • 3 1
 It cracked just looking at it. We'll get you a replacement in the next 8-14 months.
  • 15 1
 Is this going to be like every 'start tuned for a full review' that never comes?
  • 1 0
 Haha
  • 12 0
 Why does the bike industry measure the weight of the bike in pounds and weight saving in grams? Wouldn’t it make more sense to use Kilograms for the overall weight of the bike as well?
  • 5 5
 well 0.134 lbs doesn't sound great... In comparison 60 grams sounds incredible And then for the actual weight most people just say lbs and kg, for me lbs just make more sense, if someone says how much it weighs in kg i always have to convert them to understand how light it actually is since i nearly never use kgs
  • 9 0
 @Bikerdude137: Canadians....
  • 9 0
 Finally the mixed wheel size is happening. Hopefully this becomes an option for future enduro/trail bikes. Makes an absolute shredder of a bike. The industry will continue to learn from motocross
  • 5 1
 Looks like a solid contender... but no frame set option when you're clearly aiming at those who race doesn't make much sense. Guys looking for a race bike probably have their own setups they prefer to stick with (I know I do).
  • 2 1
 They'll definitely add a frameset option but it's weird to not offer it right away
  • 6 0
 Fast forward to someone switching up the shock position and then complaining about rock strikes
  • 4 0
 My favourite part of this First Ride was clicking through the link to discover that in 2020 I still cannot and nor will I be able to purchase a Canyon bike in Canada. @Canyon-PureCycling figure it out.
  • 1 1
 Trust me You don’t want to buy anything from canyon. RMA is nightmare. Support is incompetent.
  • 5 1
 Headset inserts to be able to adjust the reach by 8mm in either direction is such an awesome feature. Every bike should have that. I'm always in the middle of sizes.
  • 2 0
 A few weeks ago, I was planning on buying one around December this year... But I have to say that I'm a bit disappointed about the build choices.

1) There used to be a full Fox Factory suspension build? Why not with the new bike??

2) Maybe a mistake from me, but the builds appear to be more expensive than the last ones as well
  • 4 0
 In my humble opinion, which I realize doesn’t matter. This is a nice bike i’ld like too abuse. DH style of course, not emotionally like calling it names.
  • 2 0
 Why should You NOT buy from Canyon.
I’ve order Sender and wait for it 10 days which is normal. Bike was damage during shipment because they decided to cut cost on package and shipment. Bike was shipped back. After 12 days I still can not get money back and invoice correction.
The funniest thing is that they cannot swap payments between orders so bike replacement requires new order and new payment which is ridicules.
  • 6 1
 DH bikes weighting less than Enduro bikes. What is happening?
  • 26 0
 Well, they have lighter cassettes, no dropper posts, bit heavier forks and shocks, otherwise the same.
  • 1 0
 @lkubica: the frame is also built up more, although enduro bikes are getting more like that too so it's not even that big of a difference
  • 5 0
 @Bikerdude137: Not anymore. Look at Commencal for example.The Meta 29 frame is literally a DH frame.
  • 6 1
 Weight without front wheel?
  • 53 0
 I need to know the weight without the left crank as well.
  • 4 0
 @jptothetree: right, nice to know should it ever come off!
  • 4 0
 I wonder if Troy will be running a mullet or somehow stick with 27.5 front and rear
  • 9 1
 Give the latest episode of my podcast a listen and you'll find out. The answer might surprise you!
  • 1 0
 Troy will run a Large full 29er
  • 5 0
 @wilbersk: check out downtime podcast, we talk about the bike and race setup/testing. He’s racing full 29
  • 2 1
 I always worry when I see options to move around the lower shock eye (to 29 from 27.5 or vice versa) - the added risk of play developing at this junction must surely be higher - I certainly have had this issue with the older 2013 / 14 Canyon Torques. Maybe its just me?
  • 4 1
 A dh bike comparison article!! Damn this is a big monster truck wheelbase of a bike...
  • 4 0
 Interesting how it comes set up as a mullet in the 2 smallest sizes
  • 5 0
 There’s a podcast around where Fabian Barrel goes on about how that is the best setup unless you are 6ft plus or something.
  • 8 0
 @Waldon83: it was one of my episodes. I really enjoyed that chat with Fabien.
  • 3 0
 WOW!!! I cant wait for the spectral
  • 3 1
 So who wants to buy my Sender CF 9.0? Fox 40 factory / Fox Float X2, X01 groupset. Size medium
  • 1 0
 So compared to the Demo, theres a lot less pedal kickback, so also less antisquat and less rearward axle path/movement. I wonder how that translates in real world riding.
  • 4 1
 So the FMD is 1100 LESS with Shimano/Fox.
Not a tough decision.
  • 3 0
 yeah, zee... wasn't the last update like 2014? I could be wrong, it was probably before that
  • 3 0
 @Bikerdude137: if it ain't broke..
  • 1 1
 @CarbonShmarbon: it's still 9 speed...
  • 1 0
 @Bikerdude137: how many gears do you need for dh?
  • 4 0
 @nordland071285: 7 max, 5 for all i care, the less weight out back the better the suspension will feel
  • 3 0
 @Bikerdude137: first of all, zee is 10 speed, second of all, nothing stops you from converting 10speed shimano cassette to 7speed one with cassette spacers from one up/ blackspire/fouriers or whoever. Third, unless you have deep enough pockets to buy XO1 DH, zee with aforementioned setup is lighter than GX DH drivetrain...While still cheaper, lower profile derailleur so less likely to get damaged is also nice bonus isn´t it.
  • 1 0
 @Mondbiker: if shimano updates it like they did with the other versions then sure
Until then i'm sticking with sram
(I actually prefer shimano drivetrains too but if they just make some adjustments it would be perfect, also it would be nice to have an adjustable thumb paddle on the saint)
  • 1 0
 @Bikerdude137: its saint not zee...
  • 1 0
 @Ellisjm: what? I asked for an adjustable thumb paddle on the saint, is there something wrong with that?
  • 1 0
 @Bikerdude137: " yeah, zee... wasn't the last update like 2014? I could be wrong, it was probably before that" you said it was a zee drivetrain...it ain't.
  • 3 0
 New "Torque" rollout immenent?
  • 1 0
 This is an interesting stage, in which there aren't 29" and 27.5" bikes, but each bike is one or the other depending on size.
  • 4 0
 That's the way it should be. It's the way we size kids' bikes: wheels get bigger as the rider gets bigger. Why does it suddenly change for "adult" bikes? Trying to cram a 29 inch rear wheel into a frame designed to fit someone 5'2" is just silly. Sure put one on the front, much more room to adjust the bar height there. But on the back, you can't really adjust someone's leg length, and having a big wheel back there means that at some point the wheel and the rider's posterior are going to try to occupy the same space at the same time, which is not really desirable.
  • 1 0
 @just6979: Hum, yes, someone who is smaller might get by with a larger wheel at the front, that makes it less straightforward. And a smaller wheel at the back might also bring some advantages for a larger rider. The way of the mullet is another possible direction.
  • 2 0
 Wait ... what? same price in euro and dollar? that's nearly 1000 euro of difference!
  • 2 0
 Troy wouldn’t be limited to stock leverage ratios
  • 1 0
 Very interesting to see a SRAM Centerline 203mm rotor. Didn’t know they did that
  • 1 1
 For those who want a Carbon Demo.
Low position shock is the 2020 fashion: Sender, Demo, Tues, Commençal, Norco prototype, DarkMatter, Intense...will Trek do the same ?
  • 3 0
 @RaZias except none of those are even similar to the 2020 demo...
Commencal isn't that low, you missed devinci, also trek will definitely not do this, Tues? The tues isn't low at all...
Sure they look similar, but they're way different...
  • 1 0
 No water bottle mount?!
...guess they don't want to market to the Pinkbikers...
  • 1 0
 I really enjoy these articles. Very detailed and well written. Good job @Danroberts
  • 3 1
 The Clock Never Lies... except about it's own importance
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 No way man that seat angle looks way too slack
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 The new sender is a result of romance between the banshee legend and the new demo
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 light as most enduro bikes!!
  • 6 0
 no dropper or dinner plate cogs
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 Came here for the yellow maxxis logos.
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 The paint scheme is a classic winner tho
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 What is "bottom bracket offset"? Offset from what? In what direction?
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 Drop.
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 First downhill bike and first Canyon I would consider in a long time!
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 or the longest RMA and fight for Your money back.
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 So - how does it pedal?
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 It has space for a water bottle.
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 slowly pulls drill out of pocket...
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 Troy used to ride on a demo, now he is still on a demo ;-) lol
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 I sent it once, went in to fast broke it in half.
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 That is one sexy bike. ????
  • 1 0
 Anyone needs a new kindney? Selling for 5.799€
  • 1 1
 Looks like a bit of everything to be precise
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 Average wheel radius? Really?
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 Ah that noicy play.. Big Grin
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 Take my $$$
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 Good looking bike
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 Nah my hardtail has slacker hta at 62˚. And I want steeper sta.
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 Canyon demo?
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