First Ride: 2021 Nukeproof Giga - Because They Could

Jan 27, 2021
by Mike Kazimer  

What's bigger than a Mega? A Giga, obviously. No word yet as to when the Tera bike is coming out, but for now let's take a look at Nukeproof's latest long travel machine.

This new carbon-framed addition to Nukeproof's fleet is available with either 27.5” or 29” wheels, with 180 or 170mm of rear travel respectively. Add in a 180mm fork and a slack, 63.5-degree head angle and it's clear where the Giga's intentions lie.

The Giga started as a side project during the development of Nukeproof's Dissent downhill bike. At the time, what would become version 4.0 of the Mega enduro race bike was already in the works, but the potential for an even longer travel option, one that preserved as many of the desirable traits of a DH bike as possible, was intriguing enough that an aluminum mule was created.
Nukeproof Giga Details

• Wheelsize: 27.5" or 29"
• Travel: 170mm (29") or 180mm (27.5") / 180mm fork
• Carbon frame
• 63.5° head angle
• Chainstay length: 435mm (27.5") / 444mm (29")
• Weight: 33.9 lb / 15.4kg (Factory 290, L)
• Sizes: S-XXL
• Price range: $3,700 - $5,500 USD. Frame only: $2,600 USD.
nukeproof.com


Dubbed the 'Mulse', a play on the Pulse model name, after a few rides it was clear that the concept was worth pursuing even further. Nukeproof's design engineers got to work, and went through numerous iterations before settling on a look that would set the tone for this model, along with others in the future.

Nukeproof Giga

Frame Details

At the moment, all three models of the Giga use a full carbon frame that's constructed from T700/800 fiber, with an aluminum linkage joining the swingarm to the front triangle. There's internal, tube-in-tube cable routing to keep rattling to a minimum and to simplify installation.

Being based in the UK, Nukeproof's designers are no strangers to wet, muddy riding conditions. That's one of the reason's there's room for up to a 2.6” rear tire, along with an integrated mud guard. There's also room for a water bottle inside the front triangle, where it sits in a depression on top of the downtube. There are also two bolts for mounting a tube or tool on the underside of the top tube.

The bottom bracket is threaded, the rear spacing is 12 x 148mm, and there's a SRAM Universal Derailleur hanger, three welcome features on any new bike.

Nukeproof Giga
Generous chainslap protection helps make for a very quiet bike.
Nukeproof Giga
The water bottle cage sits in a recess on the top of the downtube.

Nukeproof Giga
The seat tube and rocker link pivot position were designed to allow enough room for longer travel dropper posts.



Giga 27.5"
Nukeproof Giga

Giga 29"
Nukeproof Giga


Geometry

There are a total of 5 frame sizes for the Giga, from S all the way to XXL. According to Nukeproof's sizing chart, that should accommodate rides from 5'2” all the way to 6'7” in height. Reach numbers range from 435mm up to 515mm on the 29” version. The size large I'm on has a reach of 475mm, and a seat tube angle of 78-degrees.

Although the Dissent DH bike has adjustable chainstays, they're fixed on the Giga, and measure 435mm on the 27.5” model and 445mm on the 29” version. The head angle is 63.5-degrees with a 180mm fork.

Nukeproof Giga
Nukeproof Giga
The main pivot can be raised or lowered by loosening the 8mm hex bolt and changing the orientation of the black switch. This allows the level of progression to be set at 25.5% or 29%.


Suspension Design

The geometry concepts used on the Mega are all in place on the Giga – a steep seat tube angle, longer reach, and shorter seat tubes with enough insertion depth for longer travel dropper posts – but it's the suspension layout that really sets the two models apart. The Giga's shock sits low in the carbon frame, driven by a rocker link that's connected to the seat tube and swingarm. This design is intended to reduce the weight of the rear triangle, and create a balanced ride, with the center of gravity closer to the bottom bracket.

There aren't any geometry adjustments to be seen, but there are two main pivot positions that are used to alter the leverage rate. In the first position there is 25.5% progression, and in the second position there is 29% progression. That second position is said to work especially well with a coil shock, or in wet conditions where a more supple beginning stroke is desired.

Depending on the main pivot position, anti-squat sits at either 96% or 100% at sag in the 32 / 50 tooth gear ration, and then drops as the shock goes deeper into its travel. The Giga is focused on the descents, but it's also meant to be pedaled back up the hill with as little fuss as possible.

Nukeproof Giga
Leverage ratio. The grey line is the more progressive setting, and the X axis is the amount of travel.
Nukeproof Giga
Antisquat in 32 / 50 gear ratio. The grey line is the more progressive setting.



Models
Nukeproof Giga
Giga Comp

Giga Comp 275 & 290 - $3700 USD / 4700 Euro / 3700 GBP
Fork: RockShox Zeb, Charger R damper, 180mm
Shock: RockShox Super Deluxe Select R
Drivetrain: Shimano Deore M6100, 12-Speed
Wheels: Sun-Ringle Duroc SD37 Comp
Tires: Michelin Wild Enduro
Cranks: Shimano Deore M6100, 170mm
Handlebar: Nukeproof Neutron V2, 25mm Rise
Stem: Nukeproof Neutron AM, 45mm
Brakes: Shimano Deore M6120 4 piston
Seatpost Brand X Ascend internal w/ Remote lever
Saddle: Nukeproof Horizon Enduro


Nukeproof Giga


Giga Elite 270 & 290 - $4600 USD / 5800 Euro / 4600 GBP

Fork: Fox 38 Float, Performance Elite Series, Grip 2 Damper, 180mm
Shock: Fox Float X2, Performance Series, EVOL, 2 Position lever
Drivetrain: Shimano SLX M7100, 12-Speed
Wheels: DT Swiss E1900 SPLINE
Tires: Michelin Wild Enduro
Cranks: Shimano SLX M7100, 170mm
Handlebar: Nukeproof Horizon V2, 25mm Rise
Stem: Nukeproof Horizon, 50mm
Brakes: Shimano SLX M7120, 4 piston
Seatpost Brand X Ascend internal w/ Shimano lever
Saddle: Nukeproof Horizon Enduro


Nukeproof Giga
Giga Factory


Giga Factory 270 & 290 - $5500 USD / 7000 Euro / 5500 GBP
Fork: Fox 38 Float, Factory Series, Kashima, Grip 2 Damper, 180mm
Shock: Fox Float X2, Factory Series, Kashima
Drivetrain: Shimano XT M8100, 12-Speed
Wheels: DT Swiss EX1700 SPLINE 30
Tires: Michelin Wild Enduro
Cranks: Shimano XT M8100, 170mm
Handlebar: Nukeproof Horizon V2, 25mm Rise
Stem: Nukeproof Horizon, 50mm
Brakes: Shimano XT M8120, 4 piston
Seatpost Bikeyoke w/ Shimano Remote lever
Saddle: Nukeproof Horizon enduro



First Ride

The Giga just showed up, so I've only been able to squeeze in a couple wet and muddy rides in on it. My initial impression is that it stays impressively composed while climbing considering how much travel it has. The seat tube is nice and steep, and while there's no getting around that this is a bike designed for the descents, it carries its weight and slack geometry well.

Part of the reason for the Giga's balanced nature is the fact that Nukeproof didn't go too crazy with the its reach numbers. Giving the bike a more moderate rather than monstrous front center helps to temper the longer wheelbase created by that 63.5-degree head tube angle. On the descents, that makes it easier to avoid feeling like you're on an out of control semi-truck - instead, the Giga can plow when it needs to, and still maneuver through tighter sections without feeling too cumbersome.

I'm excited to start getting the Giga dialed in even more, and to try out the different main pivot positions to see how much of a difference that actually makes. I'm going to be hanging onto this one for a bit – stay tuned for the long term review later this year.








328 Comments

  • 128 0
 It's all well and good calling it the Giga but why isn't the Reactor called the Kilo?
  • 44 1
 And the Dissent "Terra"
  • 21 0
 @Noeserd: dissent 27.5" terra, 29" peta... Can't imagine what sort of monstosity would be called exa tho' Smile
  • 30 0
 @winko: marzocchi monster 300 returns to world for exa
  • 103 10
 It's it just me or does it look like a Santa Cruz? Just mentally remove the nukeproof stickers... Bingo, now you see it right!?
  • 12 4
 @landscapeben: I get Saracen Ariel vibes...
  • 2 1
 @landscapeben: my thought exactly !! the suspension looks a bit different but apart from that . . .
  • 7 4
 @landscapeben: Came here to write, looks like a Hightower....
  • 11 1
 @landscapeben: I actually got about half way through the article before I realized it was a Giga, and not a Giga-tower. It's too early..
  • 16 3
 @landscapeben: unlike Santa Cruz, the seat tube angle is proper steep
  • 17 2
 @landscapeben: Not at all. The shock on a Santa Cruz runs through the seat tube.
  • 17 4
 Looks like a NUKECRUZ to me
  • 6 2
 @landscapeben:
Looks like SC and Big S got a baby :-)
  • 12 1
 @landscapeben: so it doesn't look like a session?
  • 10 1
 @cmoney23: off course it does, but right after that it looks like a Santa Cruz.
  • 13 1
 At least they're primed to call the e-bike version a "giga-watt".
  • 3 0
 @veero: or... Mega?
  • 3 0
 @noapathy: what ?!
  • 1 0
 @cmoney23: it will...
  • 7 0
 @gibspaulding: No, santa cruz is coming out with the gigatower next year. Nukeproof came out with the mega, the santa cruz came out with the megatower. So it makes sense to me.
  • 2 0
 @landscapeben: didn't realize sc uses single pivot designs still.
  • 2 0
 @veero: megatower
  • 2 0
 @YemBot: haha agreed Santa Cruz needs to steepen their seat angles a bit. I’m just glad to see the BB HEIGHT IS NOT in the 335-340 range like a dang scooter. 345-355 better especially with these long wheelbases and slack HA. They must be taking advice from Sammy Hill. And they must be studying his MX bike because that linkage looks awful familiar. ANYONE ELSE AGREE?
  • 1 0
 @anothermtnbiker: it’s based of their dh bike
  • 2 0
 @landscapeben: Before reading your comment I thought it looked like an s-works enduro. but I see what you mean about the Santa Cruz. Nukeproof can do better.
  • 120 2
 Great to see a brand thinking about recycling their carbon frames, supplying a downtube that can be repurposed as a piece of guttering.
  • 41 0
 I’m thinking of ditching the bottle cage and tying a baguette in there :-)
  • 8 0
 It's a great and deceptively simple idea that will probably be copied by others.
  • 43 0
 @Richt2000: Sorry, due to Brexit you can only do it with a farmhouse loaf.
  • 2 1
 @Richt2000: Or maybe a couple of barm cakes.
  • 10 1
 @Richt2000: … or a burrito.
  • 3 1
 Hate to say it but I wonder if they're thinking of battery storage for a future ebike
  • 3 0
 @chakaping: ha ha. Maybe I’ll have to downgrade to an Iceland arctic roll!!!!

Or a manky greggs baguette if you can call it that lol
  • 5 0
 @Richt2000: Greggs sausage roll would be more Brexit compliant.
  • 2 0
 @chakaping: you mean breadcakes Wink
  • 1 0
 this can be done with all carbon tubes if you saw them in half first.
  • 2 1
 Turn it over and it's a mudguard.
  • 5 1
 It’s the new Nukeproof Gutta
  • 74 0
 Giga Comp 275 & 290 - $3700 USD / 4700 Euro / 3700 GBP

today on xeconverter:

3700USD = 3.051,49 Euros
3700 GBP = 4.190,80 Euros

you do realize its almost cheaper to go to the UK from Portugal to buy the bike?

or send from the US?
  • 40 0
 US prices will be quoted excluding sales tax
  • 54 4
 The EU prices are fucked up. Thanks brexit. I hope vitus can keep there bikes cheap
  • 9 46
flag Noeserd (Jan 27, 2021 at 1:50) (Below Threshold)
 @boardinbob: and in usa most of the time they don't pay tax if they buy it onlime
  • 19 0
 Basicly it should easier to buy a british bike in UK, and the same for european bikes like propain or YT if you live in Germany. But since they all come from Taiwan it is just a political logic...
  • 15 69
flag embi (Jan 27, 2021 at 2:02) (Below Threshold)
 @Bloodshot0: brexit? I blame the EU lol. EU just could not impose any import taxes and that would be it.
  • 29 0
 If they keep this kind of prices in Europe, I don't see them selling a lot here. Same idea with the whole CRC website. There are other online bike shops and other bike brands out there. It's like evolution: only the fittest will survive..
  • 11 1
 @embi: Actually it's not that simple - check out the WTO rules and you will see that the Eu are obliged to charge the same for goods imported from the UK that are actually not made in the UK as they do for bikes made in Taiwan.

Bikes actually manufactured in the UK (e.g. BTR, Curtis) do not attract the same import tariffs.
  • 102 5
 @embi: brilliant idea. If only the UK could join the EU so these tarrifs didn't apply. Oh wait...
  • 6 7
 @Bloodshot0: vitus=nukeproof
  • 5 1
 yep. I would have a friend in the US buy this and ship it back to me. save me $1000.

ridiculous pricing.
  • 14 2
 @boardinbob: so buy it in Oregon!
  • 20 0
 @Noeserd: that isn't true any longer. Most states that have a sales tax got wise to online sales.
  • 1 4
 @Bloodshot0: You can't find any on CRC. They disappeared. I wonder why.

Hope I won't have to go with Commencal..
  • 1 1
 I was just thinking that euro pricing was way off
  • 19 0
 Same components than my vitus CRX, just another frame: Vitus 4200Eur Nukeproof 7000Eur.
You can better buy a vitus crx and a Nukeproof frame, at least you have a spear frame.
  • 2 0
 @Grovy: That's my kind of bikeonomics.
  • 2 1
 @sargey2003: this is true, many UK made goods are tax and vat free into the EU now even after Brexit. But if the product is made in Asia then EU is taxing and applying VAT to these products, not sure what difference it makes really
  • 1 0
 @Noeserd: That is definitely changing - more and more websites now are charging sales tax on internet purchases.
  • 1 0
 @albert-mtb: i know. and no more vitus on crc. so i guess they just sell the expensive brand outside of the uk Frown
  • 2 0
 That's assuming you can bring it from there without paying duties.
  • 2 1
 @Noeserd: That's true, right? Why are you getting down-voted, I wonder?
  • 1 0
 @JakeEPooh: Backcountry and some of the bigger online stores still charge tax. You can still find smaller shops though that are out of state where you don't have to pay that tax.
  • 5 0
 Looks like the pricing/exchange rate has created a real quagmire. Gigaty
  • 2 2
 the situation isn't that simple.

what I/we don't know is why Nuke didn't pay tax on bikes before as, from what I know, the 55% in EU still applied before Brexit to every factory/manufacturer in EU - and I know, as I work with a couple small ones -

on the other hand, in August-Sept, a shipping container of 40ft was around 2500 USD, while in December and also now in Jan is anywhere around between 8000 USD and 12000, depending on the origin sea-port and destination.
also, the currency badly dropped, making around 8% cost increase.
also(2), the raw materials are anywhere between 4% to 8% higher cost.

all these increases got to add somewhere and, while every retailer, distributer, brand, for the sake of its clients would like to cover for some of these changes, the truth is, now they are too big to be covered and, by default get transfered to the final beneficiary of the ptoduct, the client.
  • 5 0
 @natasfolas: wow, funny you say that. Recently I keep hearing about the EU on the news, are we joining them or something else hugely beneficial to everyone on both sides of the Channel?
Rolleyes
  • 3 1
 @Noeserd: Not true. The country of Turkey was named after a bird. See, I can make up "facts" about your country too.
  • 4 2
 @natasfolas: but wouldn't the UK being in the EU mean the UK prices would be more expensive? Based on the pricing of this bike, I'd say more countries should leave if they want cheaper bikes? Based on the pricing and conversions, it seems like the UK is profiting from the exit already. I'm a few beers deep so I might be missing something...
  • 5 1
 @TotalAmateur: just because it's more expensive anywhere except the original country it not "cheaper" than before, just more expensive anywhere else.

They will sell less bikes in the EU because it's quite expensive.
Same shit as trump genius idea to put higher taxes on metal imports. Yes producing steel in the US got cheaper. Oh every company that needs metal got shafted because their product got more expensive and can't compete on the international market anymore.
  • 2 1
 @Bloodshot0: my argument wasn't that it's cheaper in the UK than it was pre-brexit, just that if it is cheaper in the UK than in the EU, the rationale would be that other countries should leave the EU as it would result in cheaper bikes. (totally dumbing down the whole issue and obvs this shouldn't be taken seriously)
And one of the main reasons Trump put the tariffs on metal imports is because we were a main producer or steel and other metals and now we've moved to importing it from countries. So while in the short run it sucks for smaller companies that were buying overseas, in the long run its better for the domestic metal industry and employment. Not really the same as the brexit-bike discussion at all tbh. My point was that if it's cheaper in the UK, and more expensive in the EU, then the simplest rationale would be that the UK is benefiting from Brexit while the EU is losing. Again I'm somewhat inebriated and making simple arguments just for fun, but you're missing my point mon frere
  • 3 0
 £5,500 vs $5,500 dollars = £4,018 = cheaper to fly to US and fly back with it as luggage.
Leaves you about £1k for a holiday whilst you're there.
  • 1 0
 Basically they just cut EU market off, and since they are not represented in US well the only UK left
  • 2 0
 US : 3700$=3050EUR + tax(300EU$) comparing to EU 4700 EU (tax included)
  • 1 0
 @Grovy: a spear frame to stick it in yeti's ass
  • 3 0
 @TotalAmateur: thats pretty much allways the case. imported stuff is more expensive otherwise no one could make money by importing stuff.

its nice for the local market but quite bad for the company or any guy who wants an eu bike. im still surprised how much the price ramped up and im completly confused by the us price. even with taxes this could be even cheaper that the uk bike. probably directly shipping them to the us, im a bit envious Big Grin

i get the idea for the steel tax increase, but it was WAY to late, most of the steel industry is already dead. same for the "ruhrpott" in germany. with a change like that you try to revive a dead industry by sacrificing the next industry in line. but i guess thats another topic for another day.
  • 2 0
 @Noeserd: naw we pay tax. I got r*** from Poland to the US to get my antidote frames state side. VAT, customs, wire transfer fee, state tax, and import tax.
  • 3 0
 @TotalAmateur: don't think of this as being cheaper in the UK, think of it as more expensive in the EU.

It's not a brexit benefit as it's likely the same price it would have been here, but there's now costs in selling to the EU. If we were still in the EU the cost should be the UK price all across Europe, so the argument should be more countries should join the EU for cheaper bikes, not leave the EU to get cheaper bikes since the price has not dropped anywhere.
  • 5 0
 don't look at Canadian prices then... On Chain Reaction the Elite @ $4600 USD is $6,800 CDN ! That's $900 above the straight-up exchange rate, and no that does not include duties which add another $1700 to the final price. Add in modest shipping costs and you're over $8500 before you can sit on the saddle. Any benefit of going consumer direct over the LBS is eroded with these economics.
  • 2 0
 @GrandMasterOrge: again, I was purposefully making a simple argument that wasn't meant to be taken seriously. but the logic still stands that nukeproof bike buyers are better off in the US and UK than in the EU.
  • 1 0
 @conoat: or New Hampshire or Montana
  • 1 0
 @Mr-Monterey:

Nah

Montana sucks.

Tell your friends
  • 66 3
 Yes, it looks like a Santa Cruz at first glance (especially in that snot green paint). And yes, it'd not light. But boy oh boy, Nukeproof have packed so much bike into not a lot of money. ✅ Modern geo ✅ Smart parts choices ✅ Adjustable frame... If it even rides 80% as well as an Enduro or a Slayer or (insert your favourite 'big' bike here) they're on a winner.
  • 71 8
 Looks like a santa cruz minus the slack actual seat angle. They took a santa cruz and fixed it!
  • 13 0
 I'd agree with that statement if it wasn't for europe getting absolutely shafted with that upcharge. 7000 euro is not on the bargain side even for the factory model, 5500 usd on the other hand absolutely is ! You could get the raaw Madonna V2 (if it ever were available) for almost 2000 less in europe, with an almost identical spec. That is pretty signifacant in my eyes
  • 5 5
 @Richt2000: colours wierd af tho looks like something I would find in my belly button
  • 8 0
 @Richt2000: and a single pivot
  • 3 3
 @Richt2000: only if they also eliminated the gobs of pedal kick!
  • 3 3
 Something about their logo on the downtube makes it look like a knockoff. Almost like the Fooker version of the Megatower.
  • 6 1
 "Nukeproof have packed so much bike into not a lot of money"? And where exactly did you get that idea?


Just look at the base model. Entry level suspension, entry level drivetrain and brakes, a cheap wheelset, a cheap dropper post and an in-house branded cockpit. For 4700€? No, thanks.
  • 6 4
 @BenTheSwabian:
Thats brexit for you unfortunately.
Its going to ruin a lot of businesses sadly
  • 3 0
 @Richt2000: but NP seat tube has no offset at bb, is kinked in middle, and actual sta is still saddle-height dependent...I like the tiny and maybe relatively lightweight onepiece swingarm though
  • 2 0
 @Richt2000: i dunno.

Sounds more like supply and demand in the current environment where demand is vastly outstripping supply.

Bikes are getting very expensive everywhere.
  • 41 4
 Just came here for the "Looks like a Santa cruz" nonsense comments.
  • 27 2
 Looks like a Santa cruz
  • 26 5
 Looks like an Ali Express Santa Cruz
  • 29 1
 SO basically a UK brand has bikes that are cheapest in the US, and even though similar rules apply for Export to US as to the EU now, the price in EU is 7000 EUR compared to 5500 USD which is about EUR 4550, so even with adding tax as US is usually without tax that would be say 5500 EUR(Average 20%), they are asking 7000? Way to lose EU customers Nukeproof.... Guess they only want to sell in the UK and US. My guess is buying in the UK would still be cheaper than EUR, as they would have to sell without VAT, whih would be added here and some customs duties too.

Weird move, this Brexit thing is getting out of hand
  • 77 4
 I'm not sure "basically" is applicable to this shitshow of a situation.
If only there was some mechanism for only Brexit voters to be charged extra.
  • 16 0
 @chakaping: THAT WOULD BE AWESOME
  • 7 0
 @chakaping: Good shout, if only
  • 3 0
 Could be the cost of logistics. A shipping container on a boat goes directly from Taiwan across the Pacific to California, where as to get to the UK, it's gotta go through South China Sea, Indian Ocean, Red Sea, Mediterranean, etc. Would be interesting to hear from someone with experience in container shipping logistics about the costs of going to one area vs another.
  • 3 1
 You say that like Nukeproof chose to apply heavy european tarrifs to items imported from UK. Thank your political leaders for kicking sand in the sandbox...
  • 30 1
 I wish my dry trails could be as mud free as Mike's 'wet and muddy trails'.
  • 29 2
 Ha, sorry, I took advantage of a weather window to film. Next time I'll make sure it's pissing rain and the camera gets covered in mud within the first 10 feet...
  • 4 0
 @mikekazimer: Long as you stay perpendicular
  • 2 0
 Our trails are both snow covered and mud at the same time. Thanks clay soil!
  • 30 3
 Shimano drivetrain at every build level, you've got to love that. Can't say I'm a fan of that particular tone of snot green though.
  • 4 0
 Yea, its crossed between moldy cheese and your nan's hearing aid!
  • 3 0
 Looks like they got the leftover paint from Santa's and Norco's 2019 lineup.
  • 4 0
 I imagine the Nukeproof desing team at the meeting where they picked the colors: "We all agree this pale forest green looks fine, right?". The world outside "Hmm, I don't like that snot green..."
  • 1 0
 @Ttimer: Which looked themselves as if they were picked up from the bargain bin at the local hardware store...
  • 2 2
 It does not displease me (which is saying a lot). Way better than anything in Santa Cruz's catalog in my opinion.
  • 2 2
 @southoftheborder: no doubt. whoever picked this color needs to be shot.
  • 3 0
 @preach: Very American.
  • 3 0
 @enjuto: yes. We shoot everyone
  • 29 8
 Bloody Carbon Fibre. If these were made of Aluminum it would be just as good and a lot cheaper. Or much better specced for the money!
  • 3 3
 Can't be upvoted enough.
  • 1 0
 Hopefully the alloy versions are coming soon and it's just a marketing strategy to make those who can't wait stump up the extra money.
  • 4 0
 @geddon: All their other models are available in aluminium, so I'd expect an alu Giga soon-ish.
Wonder if that downtube shape might be an issue though?
  • 9 0
 @geddon: no alloy models, remember our marketing department isn’t that clever!!!
  • 3 4
 @Nukeproofinternational: Shame you weren't clever enough to make some models out of metal. Your loss!!
  • 1 0
 @MattP76: There is a Mega in alloy?
  • 1 0
 @Nukeproofinternational: Can you tell us why not? You do make an aluminium Dissent.
  • 1 0
 @chakaping: might due to trying to manufacture to the frame shape? Much easier to make with cf. I’m not a frame builder or have any experience though so might be way off.
  • 2 1
 @chakaping: because they don't want to/it's not feasible in the current situation with supply of goods/because they don't have to do what PB commentors want them to do/They listen to market professionals and not you/they really just wanted to piss you off.

pick any or all. cheers!
  • 12 0
 @chakaping: Yep it's generally due to the complex tube shapes we have of the Giga. A few of the key ride characteristics are also defined/ created through the lay up of the carbon with flex/ rigidity built in. Minimal reason is as big bike reduction of the weight was a key to the Giga.

Plus factor in we have a very small (but very talented) R&D department. To add an alloy frame, we would need the development of another 10 frames (two wheel sizes and 5 sizes) - so a cost/ resources, balanced Vs sales volume has to be considered.

As much as people may think we look like certain other companies bikes (GRR), we're no wear near their sales volumes!...It's a new bike, so who know what volume of bikes we can sell!

Hope that helps a little- It's not cus we want to just sell "high ticket price" items, we just want to make the best bikes possible and this bike is rad!
  • 1 0
 @Nukeproofinternational: Thanks for the response. I did wonder if an alu version might end up a similar weight to the DH frame.
  • 20 3
 Germany: "Sorry UK, you can't have any of our cheap bikes"
Nukeproof: "Sorry EU, you can't afford any of our awesome bikes"
  • 2 0
 and no more vitus and privateer, the only real cheap bike brands out there
  • 18 0
 $5500 = €7000. Really?
  • 22 0
 A 4700 € bike with Deore drivetrain. Yeay!
  • 9 1
 Maybe only dentists live in EU? That exchange rate is from other planet ;-O
  • 3 1
 And what makes it odder is nukeproof is a europe based brand not american
  • 3 0
 @Noeserd: welcome to brexit. But 1.27 exchange rate is just insane
  • 1 2
 @Bloodshot0: why brexit is not effecting usa?
  • 7 0
 @Noeserd: it's in Belfast isn't it? Northern Ireland is apparently both in the EU (effectively) and the UK, but I would have expected the "deal" to keep NI to EU exports smooth and therefore inexpensive, given that it's still in the single market and customs union. I don't know what's going on here.
  • 6 1
 @elmaar: Nukeproofs pricing is boutique level -someone has got to pay for Sam Hill. And dont get me wrong, i think top athletes in the Mtb sport are generally underpayed but at this price i will rather get a Ghost Riot Full Party with top Formula stuff, syntace wheels and eigthpins post for 3.5 k €.
  • 4 0
 @Noeserd: USA is not in the EU
  • 1 0
 @Noeserd: Seriously ?
  • 1 4
 @IntoTheEverflow: so is turkey, but price effected us too
  • 1 0
 @Noeserd: Maybe stuff bound for Turkey is transported via the EU.
  • 3 0
 I think it's the made outside Europe thing that attracts a tariff. Doesn't matter that it's coming from a warehouse in Belfast. The US doesn't care about that, the EU and UK have agreed that's something that would be penalised. A certain percentage of the bike's components would need to be European made and they're clearly not.
  • 1 0
 But... if Belfast is in the single market, then there would be no tariffs. Maybe the bikes are being exported from the mainland. What a mess.
  • 1 0
 @Noeserd: they are UK not EU.
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: Wiggle CRC bought bike24 recently. The price in euros looks like two tariffs, in GBP one, and USD none. Euro price makes it look even more like a Santa Cruz
  • 1 0
 @ceecee: they sold it back they no longer own bike24
  • 2 0
 @optimumnotmaximum:
Not in the UK. With wiggle 12% platinum discount its £2.2k for a full carbon frame with fox factory (£700 shock) and extras such as invisiframe and mudguard. A new specialized s works or yeti frame is approaching £4k
  • 1 0
 @Richt2000: yes, it highly depends on country and currency, for the EU the prices are completely nuts. (UK and US pricing does not look that bad tbo)
  • 1 0
 @sostokedaboutthat: ah, global private equity. I see that now; thanks. Tariff still applies though--trade war. Would look less lopsided if tax were included in USD price. Since Wayfair decision, Americans are much more likely to pay it. I've assumed GBP and Euro prices are inclusive.
  • 17 0
 Giggaty Giggaty
  • 15 5
 Ah yes, Nukeproof EnduroTower
  • 8 1
 Gigatower?
  • 10 0
 This bike can tera the trail apart.
  • 7 0
 Either my eyes are playing tricks on me or the USD to EUR exchange rate has really drastically changed in the last two days. Looks like Americans and Brits are getting a killer deal on these.
  • 8 0
 If you have lots of them you'll also need to get a Giga counter to check just how nukeproof they actually are.
  • 6 0
 They should have call this the Assent as it is just a Dissent that can climb after all!
  • 9 2
 Maybe this is the 29er Nomad I always wanted.
  • 1 0
 Yes! I'm thinking the same
  • 3 0
 GBP 5500 = EUR 6231 * 14% import duties on complete bikes made in the far east = EUR 7103. So actually their EUR pricing is comparable to the UK pricing. Brexit is to blame Frown

I don't get the USD prices though as GBP 5500 = USD 7555 incl. 20% VAT (= USD 6293 without VAT). What am I missing?
  • 4 0
 Holy phoque that is a sweet sweet ride. It’s very reminiscent of the specialized enduro but 2/3rds the price! Beautiful frame ... Well played nukeproof! I wonder which of the two will be best at bombing down a track...
  • 6 0
 I cant wait for the Nukeproof Googol

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googol
  • 1 0
 I think that would be either a circus bike or a dirt bike.
  • 1 0
 Thought popped in my head as well - glad not to be the only nerd here
  • 1 0
 @mtbgreen: I was going to write googloplex but i thought I would break the Pinkbike server
  • 3 0
 This just might be the bike I’ve been waiting for. Long travel, bottle holder, made for fun. If it’s actually available at any point later this year, I’ll be snapping one up.
  • 1 0
 “ Part of the reason for the Giga's balanced nature is the fact that Nukeproof didn't go too crazy with the its reach numbers. Giving the bike a more moderate rather than monstrous front center helps to temper the longer wheelbase created by that 63.5-degree head tube angle. On the descents, that makes it easier to avoid feeling like you're on an out of control semi-truck - instead, the Giga can plow when it needs to, and still maneuver through tighter sections without feeling too cumbersome.”

Thank you Nukeproof!
  • 1 0
 There it is!!! Finally!! Manufacturers getting a longer travel enduro rig the right geo. Steeper SA could be a little more but close enough, HA on point, seat tube could be shorter, a little shorter on the 29er cs though please, like 440mm or adjustable even better...
  • 1 0
 A 350mm BB won't suit all riders. I understand this ride is aimed at the gnarliest of trails, but still some sort of flip chip would be welcome. I have experimented with various setups a lot in the past year or two, and have settled on 338-343mm for 140-160mm travel bikes. Sure, with bigger travel you definitely need a little higher static BB to clear ground at full squish, but hell even some downhill bikes have lower static BB than this.
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: So after the first ride impression of the Giga, would you not say that you might have been better suited to the size M Kona Process X? Comparing the 2 bikes charts looks like the Giga size L and Process X size M are pretty comparable. First thought when I read your first ride impression of the X was that it was probably a size too large. This seems to reinforce that notion.
  • 3 0
 Looks excellent in almost every way but they're competing hard with Scott for drab paint options
  • 3 0
 So the Reactor and Mega are Horst link, and the Giga and Dissent are single pivot.. interesting, I wonder why?
  • 1 2
 Horst Link is also single pivot. Maybe it offers a stiffer rear triangle which is good for longer travel bikes? Maybe because it's simpler and therefore cheaper to make? Could be various reasons.
  • 2 0
 riding bone dry trails in the footage ( super wet and super muddy ) LOL

you should visit Ireland this time of the year :-)
  • 4 4
 So for the 29er they now have:

170mm Giga
160mm Mega
135mm Reactor

That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Will they move the Mega 29 down to 150mm or so? Make it more their all-mountain bike.

Then you'd have:

29
170mm Giga (Freeride-super enduro)
150mm Mega (enduro-all mountain)
130mm Reactor (trail)

27.5
180mm Giga (Freeride-super enduro)
160mm Mega (enduro-all mountain)
140mm Reactor (trail)
  • 2 1
 I assume they have identified the optimum amount of travel for each application - and from my personal riding experience those numbers seem credible. I'd actually be more interested if the Giga was 180mm rear though.
The Mega apparently has very lively pedalling manners, which are likely to make it "more different" to the Giga than the 10mm travel discrepancy might suggest.
  • 1 1
 @chakaping: it's 180mm on the mullet version.
  • 1 0
 @chakaping: 180mm on the 29er would probably put the minimum chainstay length beyond what they'd accept for the smaller sizes.
  • 1 0
 Chuck a 190mm dual crown fork on and you have a good "park" bike. But thats just my opinion
  • 3 0
 Let me add, that I do very much like the option to be able to change the progressivity of the bike allowing one to optimize it for either coil or air. Especially while the modification can be done so easily. That's real innovation in my book. Offering coil and air without the option to change the progressivity is far from optimal. Hopefully in the future more manufacturers will acknowledge that.
  • 1 0
 @CS645: Perhaps, or they thought people would prefer 170mm? Either way, I'd prefer slightly longer chainstays as well so they've got no excuse IMO. Wink
  • 7 1
 I think you are getting way too caught up in travel numbers as a means to defining a bike's "genre" tbh.
  • 1 1
 @AlanMck: It's not really about how I define a bike genre, but more that potential customers get confused, while bunching up the Mega and the Giga and leaving quite a big "all-mountain gap" between the Mega and the Reactor.
  • 2 0
 @CS645: Surely the "all-mountain" category is just an enduro bike (the mega). Changing the travel by a few mm won't redefine the bike. This has a 63.5 HA and is essentially a single crown Dissent. I think that is fairly definitive. I'm only saying this because some 150mm bikes are in fact more aggressive than some 160 or 170mm options. Think people get a bit caught up in the travel numbers (especially on the back).
  • 2 0
 @AlanMck: Depends on the way you look at it.

To me it makes sense to have a freeride/super enduro bike in your line up: steep, big jumps and drops, lot's of park use, rough terrain at (near) race speed, going uphill purely a means to an end (often shuttled or lift). Hardly seas any mellower trails.

Below it all-mountain/easier enduro terrain). You could race it on slightly mellower terrain, but the bike is more playfull, poppy and manoeuvrable. Gives more feedback from the trail and quite some anti-squat to make it peppy uphill and when stomping hard. Occasional park, lift, shuttle, alpine use, but very often used on more mellower home trails and still a lot of fun there.

Below that a trail bike. Hardly sees any lift, shuttle or park use. Fun on the climbs and flowy home trails, but not ideal for continuos hard charging downhill.

To me such a set up makes sense. I reckon the Mega and the Giga both belong in the first category: enduro-mtb.com/en/nukeproof-mega-290-ally-pro-2021-review It's not about the travel number, it's about the character en the intended use of the bike.
  • 1 0
 If there is enough clearance when bottomed out 29 version can be long stroked, 205x60 is the stock spec
  • 1 0
 hats off to them. it's a really well spec-d bike. Bike Yoke dropper as OEM equipment. DT Swiss XM 1700s. and coming with frame protection film straight from the factory. nice touch
  • 3 0
 There aren't many new bikes that make me think "wow, that looks great" but this does.
  • 1 0
 I'm sure Nukeproof are working on opening a warehouse somewhere in the EU but until then the pricing for EU customers is insane. I guess it doesn't matter really at the moment as everything is out of stock anyway.
  • 5 3
 Anyone hoping that they will bring the Giga out with the rockshox/sram spec aswell as the fox/shimano so we can have more of a choice?
  • 2 0
 literally no body but you
  • 3 0
 Bike looks pretty good. Hope version 2 comes with shorter seat tubes and an aluminium version.
  • 2 0
 Interesting to see more of the linkage driven single pivot thing happening. Cool looking bike. That water bottle should be super secure!
  • 3 3
 This rear suspension design is a bit of a head scratcher. It's not a high single pivot design, yet it is a single pivot design, but it does have a linkage driven rear shock. I'm undecided if this is a compromised design or a good design. The frame looks awesome. One could make a valid arguments that it's a 4 bar design but the linkage doesn't effect the wheel path, it only influences the shock. I'm curious about the effects of brake jacking and chain growth on this bike. Single pivot bikes of yore had to use a floating rear brake with a rod to counter chain growth and pedal kickback. That doesn't see to be addressed here, so I wonder if that's an issue unrealized here. I'm digging the concave shaded downtube, that's new and novel design feature. I do think Nukeproof could have done some more exciting subtle graphics on this rig though to compliment its exciting lines.
  • 3 0
 There are many, many, many bikes with a linkage driven single pivot, so I think it's a pretty well resolved design.
  • 4 0
 Nobody is going to stop me from pronouncing this as 'Jiga'
  • 4 0
 Next up is the GigaWatt
  • 3 0
 Great Scott!
  • 3 0
 Will they produce it at the Giga Factory?
  • 4 1
 People who think this looks like a santa cruz need their eye's checked
  • 4 1
 Giga *27.5"* YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAW!
  • 1 0
 With the Enduro bikes riding today on around 170mm travel with long and slack geometry, I don't really get the point of making freeride bikes
  • 2 0
 I’m wondering if this is dual crown approved? I doubt it but it would be nice if it was.
  • 2 0
 That would be a sweet!
  • 2 3
 This is close to what could be a near-ultimate bike design, but even with adjustments, the damn pivot is too low. It should at least be aligned with the top of the chainring, or 5mm higher, for a nice pedalling ability. With the adjustment feature, it could be optimized for a 32t or 34t chainring, that would be awesome.
  • 1 2
 Why would you buy a Megatower over this?

Free bearings for life and the enjoyment of having a “relationship” with the people at your local shop I guess?

I would totally roll the dice and buy the top end one. The 6200$ Megatower has their low grade carbon frame too.
  • 4 0
 Nukeproof are available from local dealers,at least in the UK anyway.
  • 1 0
 Can anyone tell the difference between C and CC apart from how much emptier the bank account is?
  • 3 0
 Disappointed -
I was ready for a 36" / 32" GIGA MULLET
  • 4 3
 this trend in poopy greens and blues for bike colors needs to go. between yeti, propain and this crap...someone needs to go back to artschool.
  • 4 1
 Subjective. I have the Reactor 275 in this color and it actually looks great in person. Now Remi's Propain color...awful. At least Yeti turq has a bit of history and sort of tolerable.
  • 2 0
 @bman33: that's fair, yessir.
  • 2 2
 @bman33: meanwhile fox makes the ugliest parts even uglier
  • 2 0
 They're going to sell a sh*tload of these. Not to me as I'm still paying for my Nomad. Bugger.
  • 1 1
 @mikekazimer Do you have a rough timescale for when you will release a "super enduro" bike comparison video? I am wanting to buy a new bike in that category now but could maybe hold off a couple weeks....
  • 1 0
 Nice looking bike and sweet build kit, but that cable routing?!? There is going to be some nasty wear from that shock compressing!
  • 2 0
 Not to take away from all the conversion rate talk, but I wonder how it would be in between the lower pivot settings..
  • 2 0
 Hold my Dr Pepper!!! It has 2 bottle cage mounts!!!!! OMG . Sweet looking ride . Priced very well too.

#superenduro
  • 2 0
 Single Pivot - NOT Horst Link?! Where's the discussion on why? How is that similar to the Mega at all?
  • 3 0
 Very good. All I want now is the film with Sam Hill. Thanks
  • 4 0
 Wouldn't that be a good idea...
  • 1 0
 @Nukeproofinternational: Perfect idea !
  • 1 0
 Looks sick and good builds for the price. But a slightly higher cost on the elite build to include 350 hubs would be perfect!
  • 1 0
 Hey @Nukeproofinternational , do you have any plans in the not so far away future to off-set the very scary cost of the bikes in EU versus elsewhere? Thanks
  • 1 0
 How does the geo not change if the main pivot on a single pivot moves? If the pivot goes up, the BB goes down, and it gets slacker. And vice verse.
  • 1 0
 $5500 is definitely a good deal for us over here across the pond.... but, the other part of the equation, will it be in stock and meet the supply demand.
  • 4 2
 Finally! We've waited long enough to start re-gifting presents from SANTA.
  • 2 1
 Its a yes from me. Wonder what it would be like mullet? Could you squeeze a 2.8 in the back then too?
  • 1 0
 I hope Nukeproof don’t scratch the Mega, I m very interested on getting one after an amazing test ride!
  • 3 1
 Worst kept secret of 2021 lol
  • 1 0
 Still waiting on bike brands to release 200mm enduro bikes. Come on, stop teasing us.
  • 2 1
 Doesn't appear to be a mullet or Mx version? They have missed a trick here for sure.
  • 2 0
 can we just start calling these freeride bikes already?
  • 1 0
 Only when they have 180mm rear travel, so not the 29er. Sorry.
  • 2 0
 Norco, THIS is what the new Shore should've looked like.
  • 1 0
 Wait till the new range comes out
  • 1 0
 Can I have it 8 inches shorter? - we could call it Freerider !
How about that?
  • 2 0
 The giga is a new mass start race from Everest base camp
  • 2 0
 Looks like S̶e̶s̶s̶i̶o̶n̶ ...oh wait Smile
  • 2 0
 I am holding out for the "Ultra." It's supposed to be the Tsar Bomba.
  • 1 0
 YT had better have a good response to this bike soon... that $5500 one is a great deal.
  • 1 0
 Next years 200mm enduro sled to be called the "from orbit" cause you know, it's the only way to be sure.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a great bike, pretty much Yeti SB165 specs though just 18 months later.... In for the SC Comments nonetheless
  • 1 0
 looking at the prices listed i think it's fair to say both the pound sterling and the euro have taken a beating post brexit.
  • 2 0
 Colors are not that great.
  • 1 0
 Pricing listed either weird or tax / no tax in same brackets;
3700$ and 4700 EU this is a huge difference
  • 1 0
 Somewhat academic as it will be practically impossible to buy even if you were in the market for one.
  • 2 0
 So when is Sam Hill getting his and when does the video come out?
  • 1 0
 Who makes these bikes??? Pfizer and AstraZeneca? Sure looks like it when looking at prices for the EU...
  • 1 0
 "But does it fit a water bottle? Oh wait it does! I like it already!"
--- generic PB member
  • 1 0
 I'd love to see a video of timed runs on a typical downhill trail between this, the Mega and Dissent.
  • 1 0
 Finally a bike that has a reach that's in reach for us smaller riders. Sadly the price is just out of reach after brexit.
  • 1 0
 When you talk about your phone the G stands for gigahertz, when it's on Friday fails it means Giga hurts...
  • 1 0
 Looks like they took the PinkBike throwdown of the Grim Donut a bit to seriously, and thought "shit, we need to keep up"
  • 2 0
 Sick!
  • 2 1
 my next bike. finally, a worthy replacement of my freeride-ized Sanction.
  • 1 0
 Bigger, longer, slacker - take 5746
  • 1 1
 Never have thought to write that following sentence:
This bike is heavier and more expansive than a Megatower!
Chapeau!
  • 1 2
 Hey Nukeproof, I'm putting my hand up to be your EU partner/distributor. Can't promise the first few frames Wong go missing tho...
  • 9 12
 Effective seat tube angles are such a joke. This bike has a 72 degree seat tube, which isn't steep enough, especially on a 180mm travel bike that will sag 30% further when sitting to pedal.

Sick of companies getting away with this rubbish, and Pinkbike reviews lapping up the 'effective seat tube angle' marketing rubbish.
  • 3 1
 I agree. Geo tables should have a third measurement showing the difference between effective and actual. Go hop on a Spesh Enduro (high diff between effective and actual) and a Ripmo (low diff), that both have the same effective STA (76) and you will feel the difference.
  • 7 0
 @Linc, given that the size large has a 609mm top tube length, I really wouldn't want the seat tube angle much steeper. Mountain bike geometery is a balancing act, and, having actually ridden this bike, I'd say Nukeproof got it right.
  • 2 2
 @mikekazimer: Maybe at your height, but sucks for anyone over 6ft or with long legs that needs to put the seat higher than Nukeproof's arbitrary 'saddle height at saddle offset' line.

Also I think correct STA needs to take the rear wheel travel and sag into account. A 76 degree angle might be great on a 140mm bike, but on a 180mm travel bike, proper sag will knock this around and realistically, the angle needs to be much steeper.
  • 1 1
 My favourite bit is how theyve designed the cable routing so that it eats the linkage and the air can.
  • 2 0
 Found it, my next bike.
  • 1 1
 I'm still struggling to get past my old "snapped another nukeproof, waiting on the parts to arrive" days.
  • 1 1
 They wont sell many of those in Europe with prices like that, thats for sure
  • 1 0
 Sheesh. That’s a damn nice spec for 5500$
  • 4 3
 Why would I want to buy a Nukeproof at Santa Cruz price levels?
  • 2 2
 You're suggesting Nukeproof can't move up in the world. Look what happened to Kia and Hyundai. They were once cheap crappy cars...not so much anymore. I'm not saying Nukeproof was crap before, but it was never as alluring as other brands and always presented prices to match that compromise. Maybe they want a piece of the boutique pie now.
  • 1 0
 Terra European a new one with that exchange rate *smh*
  • 1 0
 How is there NOT a Giga 1.21??
  • 1 0
 Anyone know where these can be ordered in Canada?
  • 1 0
 Anyone got the name for the suspension layout?
  • 1 0
 "I want that"

- Napoleon Dynamite
  • 1 0
 Anyone else spot the weird brake mount on the rear? Attention
  • 1 0
 Nice affordable park, big trail bike!
  • 1 0
 Really good price point for a full carbon bike
  • 2 0
 Looks like an enduro
  • 2 2
 $3,700, then you realized you got duped to buying a glorified single pivot!
  • 1 0
 Should've taken it off the ol' Cornwall HTF while you were there.
  • 1 0
 Dang hopefully this thing is covered by the new free trade deal with NZ.
  • 1 0
 Finally a bike for the fox pistachio fork.
  • 1 0
 Probably won't be available for a while after release....
  • 1 0
 Giga nomad?

Wait, the Gonad......
  • 1 0
 Wish there as a Mullet option.
  • 1 0
 Does bear poop in firest?
  • 1 0
 These look awesome. Great parts spec.
  • 1 0
 Wonder how it'll compare to the Canfield Lithium.
  • 1 0
 Anyone know where i can source one in Aus?
  • 1 0
 Its Da SantaProof GigaTower
  • 1 0
 Maximum seat post insert on the geo chart! Someone is listening!
  • 1 0
 Nice looking bike, just missing a motor.
  • 1 0
 I love how the bike costs 50% more in Euro.
  • 2 3
 Nukeproof Gigatower? Not so long ago we had a nukeproof yeti. Theyre on a roll.
  • 1 1
 Will it take a man size chain ring?
  • 1 1
 Look like Alutech Fanes!?
  • 1 0
 Negatory.
  • 1 1
 Introducing a new colour: your nan's snot.
  • 1 1
 Nice SantaProof!! Please, send me one in 29''
  • 1 1
 Single pivot ENDURO killer, minus SWAT
  • 3 4
 Yawn. Another over priced, generic looking product that no one will find in stock.
  • 1 0
 Plenty in stock on chain reaction right now.
  • 1 1
 What a shite name for a sweet looking bike.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a session
  • 2 4
 @mikekazimer ride through the puddle, don’t create trail braids around them. Any chance a trail riding etiquette video from the view point of trail builders?
  • 3 1
 Bunnyhop the puddle.
  • 1 0
 Ooga Booga Mega Giga
  • 1 0
 Looks sick!
  • 1 0
 Nukeproof killing it.
  • 1 2
 What next????Tera or what? Loll
  • 1 0
 Tera and then Peta...doubt they'd need to go farther, they'd have a 210+mm travel bike on their hands.
  • 4 4
 SantaProof Gigatower
  • 2 1
 I'd go with Santaproofalized Engigatower
  • 2 4
 Shot across the bow right there. Santa WHO? Wonder if Nukeproof likes getting C&Ds from PE firms.
  • 1 0
 Why? VPP is pretty far apart from a linkage driven shock and single pivot
  • 1 2
 GREAT BIKE, BUT WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEEN SUPERBOOST IN THE REAR
  • 1 3
 Those colors are god awful. Puke
  • 3 2
 I agree where's the radioactive yellow, green, and orange and flat black. That's what a Nukeproof ought to be.
  • 1 4
 I heard the chain stays crack just after the warranty expires. Haha.
  • 2 4
 Looks like,.... nomad?
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