First Ride: The 2024 Pivot Switchblade Gets Updated, Not Overhauled

Feb 6, 2024
by Dario DiGiulio  
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Pivot has been in the game for a while now, with both radical designs and more careful evolutions moving their lineup along. The new Switchblade represents more of the latter approach, with small but meaningful updates to the established platform. It's a classic case of slacker head angles, steeper seat angles, and longer reach figures, plus some slight kinematic changes to accompany the more capable layout.

Build kits have been updated to align with the times as well, with a mix of Shimano and SRAM builds to suit just about anyone, so long as your starting budget is very high.
Switchblade Details

• Carbon frame
• 29" wheels, mixed-wheel possible
• 142mm travel, 160mm fork
• 65.2° head angle
• 76° seat angle
• 410-500mm reach
• 431-436mm chainstay
• 12 x 157mm rear hub
• Price: $6,399 - $11,599
pivotcycles.com

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Clean clamps.
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In case you forget.

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Geometry

I'd classify the new Switchblade as more modern than the last, but still quite conservative relative to the broader market. Certain elements, like reach, bottom bracket drop, and stack heights are in line with other all-mountain bikes, but on other fronts the Switchblade is still reserved. For the sake of simplicity, I'm solely talking about the bike in the Low flip chip position; things are about 0.5° steeper in the high, along with the increased BB height.

The 65.2° head angle makes for a sharp handling characteristic, biased a bit towards confidence in corners as opposed to the steepest and gnarliest features. A little slacker might strike a happy balance, but the current figure does suit the overall bike's package well. The seat tube angle is a bit more of a compromise in my eyes, landing at 76° in every size's nominal saddle height. This just means that it strikes somewhere around that 76° mark where more average Small, Large, etc. riders would typically run their saddle. It's half a degree steeper than the outgoing model, but still a good bit slacker than most bikes in this travel bracket. Plenty of people will be catered to here, but I prefer a steeper seat angle for technical and graded climbing alike.

Pivot did opt for size-specific chainstays for the new bike, though the changes per size are comically small. Extra Small through Medium get 431mm stays, Large bumps up 1 millimeter to 432mm, and Extra Large gets a 436mm rear center. The overall stay length difference between XS and XL is more in line with the difference brands will apply between two consecutive sizes.

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Only the finer things.
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Frame Features

Pivot's carbon frames are renowned for quality, both in material construction and the small details that make a bike easier to live with. In line with those ideals, the Switchblade has all the niceties a mechanic loves to see, like full length internally-guided cable routing, excellent bearing alignment, and plenty of well-executed gizmos to keep the bike quiet and rattle free.

They're still absent from the In-Frame Storage Club meetings, but the team in Tempe doesn't feel too left out. They did provide a second set of bottle mounts on the underside of the downtube, and have partnered with Topeak to create a line of repair tools that cleanly mount to that spot. Those kits will be available aftermarket, and come in many shapes and sizes to suit your needs.

Otherwise, it's just a very nice bike, made with durability and ride quality in mind.


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Easy to flip, even on trail.
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Slick little mudflap.

Suspension Design

Generally, things aren't drastically different on this front when compared to the outgoing Switchblade, though there are some details worth noting. Like all of Pivot's trail bikes, the Switchblade implements the DW-Link layout, which they've had the chance to optimize and refine over the years.

Setting the new bike apart from the last is a slightly longer lower link, which puts the kinematics and wheel path more in line with the Firebird than the other trail bikes in the Pivot lineup. This was meant to help square-edge performance and keep the bike moving through rough terrain, where the prior version would sometimes get held up.

Otherwise, it's meant to give the ride feel Pivots consistently offer - a very soft top end, with enough support to keep you from using all of your travel all of the time. The Switchblade is compatible with coil shocks, though all of the builds come with a Float X and a cute little sag indicator.


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Less a frame feature, more of a featured frame. Accompanying the Switchblade launch is this special edition 35th anniversary bike, celebrating Pivot founder Chris Cocalis' first foray into bike design and construction: the Sun Eagle Talon. Pictured above, you have Chris' take on the perfect all-mountain bike in 1989, and in 2024. There will be a limited number of these frames, so get in touch with your local dealer if you want to get your hands on one.


Build Kits

There are plenty of builds on offer here, but none come cheap. The upside is the fact that there's no part wasted on the builds, with high quality and proven components on every tier. I've outlined the majority of offerings, though there are some pricing differences with the Talon models.

There weren't weight available for every build kit at the time of publication, but those mentioned are a size Medium.

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Switchblade Ride SLX/XT // $6,399. Fox Performance suspension, Shimano SLX brakes, XT/SLX drivetrain, DT M1900 wheels.

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Switchblade Ride GX AXS // $6,999. Fox Performance suspension, SRAM Code R brakes, GX T-Type drivetrain, DT M1900 wheels.

Blue Pro XT XTR
Switchblade Pro XT/XTR // $7,799 | $8,999. Fox Factory suspension, Shimano XT brakes, XT/XTR drivetrain, DT XM1700 or XMC1501 wheels. 30.78lbs / 13.96kg w/ carbon wheels.

Black Pro X0
Switchblade Pro XO AXS // $8,699 | $9,899. Fox Factory suspension, SRAM Code RSC brakes, XO T-Type drivetrain, DT XM1700 or XMC1501 wheels. 30.45lbs / 13.81kg w/ carbon wheels.

Black Team XTR
Switchblade Team XTR // $9,899. Fox Factory suspension, Shimano XTR brakes and drivetrain, DT XMC1501 wheels. 28.75lbs / 13.04kg.

Blue Team XX
Switchblade Team XX AXS // $11,399. Fox Factory suspension, SRAM Code Ultimate brakes, XX T-Type drivetrain, DT XMC1501 wheels. 29.98lbs / 13.6kg.

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Limited-edition Talon builds are available as well, with Pro and Team models ranging from $9,199 to $11,599.


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Ride Impressions

My time on the Switchblade has been isolated to some excellent riding in and around Pivot's headquarters in Tempe, Arizona. This means the bike saw plenty of tech climbs, bouldery descents, and loose dirt, with some surprise downpours thrown in to remind me of home. Limited, but with enough scope to get a sense for the bike - and boy is it fun.

In terrain that biases towards awkward, slower speed, and abrupt, the Switchblade handled excellently. You have solid control of both wheels, and can slot them into tight spots and catch backside on little trail features. As the speed picks up, there's a bit of front-rear imbalance, at least on the XL I was riding, though this only becomes noticeable in unsupported corners and looser/steeper sections of trail, where your weight is too far behind the front wheel to keep things hooking up.

That can be compensated with good body position and some mindful riding, and the rest of the geometry facilitates that quite well. The suspension performance also lends a helping hand, facilitating plenty of grip at the rear wheel and tracking very well. The bike's suspension has a quick, fluttery feel over repeated hits, and does a great job of absorbing bumps.


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For more pictures of Switchblade, head on over to the album here.




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258 Comments
  • 127 42
 Size-specific chainstays still need to be the right size, and 435mm on an XL ain’t it.
  • 19 8
 I completely agree the proportion between sizes should include a constant relation between the Wheelbase - Front centre/Chainstay - Stack/Reach.
I know the UDH killed flip-chips for Chainstay adjustment so do the next best thing start using Dropouts for the Chainstay rear Axle attachment and length adjustment and we can all choose what size to use.
Why is the industry so reluctant to adopt a proportionate geometry it's not like when you buy a larger size Shoe only the Toebox is extended!?!?!
  • 29 93
flag rich-2000 (Feb 6, 2024 at 3:07) (Below Threshold)
 Geo is about 8 years old:

Steep headangle
High BB
Slack seat angle
Short chainstays

Miss…
  • 92 7
 Unless you like short chainstays... It would be lame if every frame had the same geo, a short rear end is great for some people. But making separate molds for your carbon rear triangle with only 1 or 2 mm difference does sound ridiculous.
  • 74 3
 @rich-2000: Downhill length chain stays don't belong on a trail bike. And 8 years ago the longest reach you could get with this geo was 450mm if you were lucky. This bike is in its prime.
  • 107 2
 @rich-2000: for someone like me where jibbing and playing is my main priority it’s been quite frustrating having every brand make their models more and more prioritised for flat out speed.

I always look for short chain stays and steeper head angles first so to see a new model stick to more conservative numbers is always nice Smile
  • 51 1
 If you want a long wheelbase, pivot has several other models for you. This is clearly a bike with different design intentions than high speed stability, so don't knock it for an intentional choice to meet certain riders wants.
  • 18 0
 @capoeirabg: I don't think many companies are making more than one rear end. Most of them are just moving the pivots back on the front triangle to get the longer chainstays. This is why they are usually smaller increments than make sense. In the case of this Pivot, their upper rocker is short so they are pretty limited on how far they can move it back before the shock contacts the seattube on full compression.
  • 8 2
 @capoeirabg: by proportionate I assume you mean the rear center grows in equal % to the front center? Because obviously there is no such thing as "correct" when it comes to rear center length.

The reason many of them only do moderate changes between sizes is because if you lengthen the chain stay (notice I said chain stay and not rear center - which are difference things) the leverage ratio of the suspension is also changed. The last thing you want is for the larger frame sizes to have higher leverage ratios than the small frames as typically the larger frame sizes are ridden by heavier people. If you want the suspension kinematics to be the same across all sizes (you do) you need to keep the chainstay close to or ideally the same length.
  • 15 8
 This is proof that people who actually design bikes, like Chris Cocalis, think the size specific chainstay fad is dumb, but they halfheartededly do it anyway because it’s what “the market” demands
  • 7 0
 @jackfunk: Most don't make separate molds, they move the pivots back on the front triangle.
  • 20 1
 @VtVolk: idk man. Being a tall boy I’ve found that especially when riding flats all my weight is over the back until the CS get up to around 440+. It’s a little man’s world my friend. Same happened with seat tube angles the big boys hang way further off the back and the normal sized dudes said what are you complaining about. If it doesn’t bother you know it’s probably not for you. I ride 450mm CS and boy oh boy it’s like I untied my arms and took a blind fold off while riding.
  • 6 19
flag TheRamma (Feb 6, 2024 at 7:49) (Below Threshold)
 @westslopetoad: better way is to learn to weight and unweight your front using your legs. Fluidride has a great video in it. Worth a Google look.

Like what you like, but 10-15 mm if chainstays growth has negligible impact on weight distribution.
  • 8 1
 @TheRamma: I mean don't get me wrong I can ride a bike with a larger front to rear center ratio but if I have the choice... You're a local you know the climbs I can ride moore fun and other heinous climbs so much easier on a long chainstay bike. It has a huge effect you should watch Vorsprungs "Understanding Advanced Bike Geometry" both parts.
  • 4 0
 @TheRamma: I wanted to disagree with your comment, but I did the math. 15mm more chainstay on a large Switchblade shifts the weight distribution by a few percent.

That said, I am a convert to team long chainstay, but there is obviously more to one's perception of a bikes feel than a single number or magic ratio.
  • 2 1
 @Glenngineer: no magic just math same as you.
  • 5 1
 @westslopetoad: in the past 7 years my bike's CS has grown 7mm, 3 different bikes. But my STA has steepened by 3.5 degrees. Steeper climbs have become significantly easier, I think it's the STA, not so much the 7mm of CS.

The fronts have gotten a bit longer, TT grew by 11mm while reach by 50mm. HA slackened 3.5 deg.

There may be a bit more to it all, but the steeper STA definitely keeps me in a better position for steep climbs compared to 7mm preventing a rear weight bias loop out.

My opinion of course.
  • 16 1
 I disagree - the short chainstays on my switchblade are what sets the bike apart from other bikes. It’s such a more fun ride
  • 1 0
 @FaahkEet: Yeah I mean it all plays a part but on the climbs around here not much of it can be seated so its more CS that effects my local stuff.
  • 1 0
 @tkrumroy: What size do you ride?
  • 1 6
flag Azrocktester (Feb 6, 2024 at 8:54) (Below Threshold)
 Basically a nothing burger cash grab !
  • 3 1
 435 on my old XL was perfect, and that's with a 64 degree head angle. Pretty sure you need to put like 2 extra lbs on the hands to compensate for this.
  • 3 3
 @ratedgg13: Proportional front and rear centre has nothing to do with wheelbase.
  • 4 3
 Looking at the pics it seems like a bit of a wheelie machine. That seat lands almost in the center of the chainstays. It's kinda funny that the designers keep using a slack actual STA then moving the BB rearward so the virtual STA looks good on paper. In the end all they accomplished was moving the weight bias more rearward when seated and standing. Although I'm a long rear center HSP guy so I'll see myself out.
  • 7 3
 Well, the Ibis ripmo V1 and V2 XL I'm riding for 4 years now is perfect with a 435mm chainstay and it's one of the bike that received just good reviews from everyone in the last few years.
  • 9 1
 Bad for racing, but great for fun.
  • 6 1
 @westslopetoad: an XL. I actually just sold it for a Trail 429 (also an XL). Prior to the switchblade I had a forbidden druid which had a HUGE chainstay and it was awful when I'm trying to have fun on jumps and roots. The bike felt ultra planted on turns but as soon as i swtiched to the swithcblade i felt like I was let out of jail and was finally free. I'll never go back to a long chainstay unless I'm buying a DH bike.
  • 4 0
 The discussion of seat angles is useless as we’re discussing, what, effective seat angle? At what saddle height? Another bike that will have tall guys arses over the rear axle on steep climbs. Good luck fellas!
  • 15 2
 I bet most of you would have no idea if the chainstays were too short or long in a blind test ride.
  • 7 0
 @shredddr: As a bigger rider, I found the answer was to size up. I have a 36in inseam, so super tall in the saddle, on a bike with 425mm CS and 76 degree SA. When I was on a 465mm reach bike that used to be a problem, but I sized up to an XL with 500mm reach, and the longer front end keeps my upper body further forward while climbing helping the front tire stay on the ground. The short rear end lets me pick the bike up and over stuff with almost no effort. It's a balance I've been looking for for a long time.
  • 4 2
 @warmerdamj: Nah man - it can be felt huge. The difference between my Forbidden DRuid and my switchblade was like night and day. I felt like I was driving a limousine riding that druid - the rear end felt like it took ages to take off from a jump lol.
  • 3 0
 @tkrumroy: well, the rear of your druid was also getting longer as you compressed it so that would magnify it.
  • 2 0
 @warmerdamj: Oh for sure. It was drastic.
  • 2 1
 I wonder if it's a Dave Weagle thing, as Ibis also goes with puny stays.
  • 2 0
 @tkrumroy: Possibly not just due to rear centre length, but also because the suspension works.
  • 3 1
 @BuntyHoven1: The suspension of the Forbidden DRuid was by far the best suspension I've ever ridden if I'm looking for a DH bike at full speed and needing the most stability.

But on lighter trails and XC types of stuff it was horrendously boring. Getting that bike up and over fallen trees was a chore. Jumping and having fun over roots was a thing of the past.

If i lived near a lift park I would have never sold the druid - but when I'm pedaling 95% of the time on my trails the switchblade was SUCH a more fun bike.
  • 1 0
 @tkrumroy: As an owner of two high pivot bikes I can understand this. I lived in Austin with is basically flatlandia, with lots of switchbacks and ledges. The druid takes more work to pop up over features for sure. Sometimes it's easier just to tractor over stuff.
Now living in the southwest Ive found it to be fine. It did surprisingly well on the trails around Tucson.
  • 11 1
 theres alot of effort in using different chainstays, Often its just not worth the tooling etc. You need different shock tunes and leverages.
adjustable... sound cool as is easily done with drop outs but again, switching between requires shock changes. hence why brands dont do it.

I still dont understand this why people argue for it, Unless you want prices up even more. ride a different bike with longer CS/
  • 2 4
 To all the manufacturers out there. I'm a taller guy and like short chain stays. Simple solution to me seems to be to have a flip chip at the rear axle to change the CS length by 5mm or so. Let the consumer decide after that and then manufacturers don't have to produce 4 or 5 unique rear triangles or chainstays which only drive up costs.
  • 4 0
 @aliclarkson: well ali, its been jammed down everyones throats that bikes with shorter CS are more "playful" my observations spending time with a bike that can be adjusted from 445-460 and owning other 435mm bikes is that a short CS takes less effort to make it to the balance point of a manual, and when you get out to 460 schralping takes a tiny bit more effort, but really in there at 450 and 455, the main thing that happens over a 435 is you load up the front wheel more, and you can rely on it more, so its actually the opposite of what most people think they turn better with reasonably long stays.
  • 1 2
 @VtVolk: he might like money more, and also like riding a medium.... and not have to deal with midget stays on L and XL
  • 2 2
 @westslopetoad: this is the STUFF RIGHT HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
people think long stays are for "straight line stability" WRONG!!!! it acutally takes weight off the rear and moves it forward, and changes where you shift you body weight in relation to the bike! bikes with loooong front ends turn better with reasonably long stays than the do with midget stays
  • 2 0
 @tkrumroy: That's the high pivot not the CS.
  • 2 1
 @englertracing: I see what you are saying, But the longer the CS the more bus feel you get because you cant control the front end weight as easily, Along as reach/cockpit(reach doesnt always tell the story) isnt to long on a short CS bike, You can weight the front and control it much easier - again, for a more experienced rider.

Long Chainstays dont let you move the bike as much and its much harder to use your weight to your advantage.
  • 1 1
 @englertracing: both wrong & right. It does indeed move the weight to a more central position, but it also opens the Wheelbase up.
Short chainstays will easily let you move the bike around
  • 1 1
 @westslopetoad: nah bro, the rear end was so long it took forever to get the rear end of my bike off a jump. It felt super awkward. Total opposite from the pivot.
  • 3 1
 @westslopetoad: that's fine. Like what you like.
It just doesn't change weight distribution much.

I'd never say long chainstays are "bad," I just don't like the tradeoff of really long ones (445mm+) on a large. But I'm cool with the fact that lots of bike companies are going to make bikes with different geos. I don't believe that there is one perfect FC/RC ratio that needs to be preserved across sizes.
  • 1 0
 @HeatedRotor:
For me when my hips get too forward in relation to feet trying to load the front end that its hard to quickly and accurately shift weight fore and aft in this position (fwiw im experienced enough to nose manual around corners). A thought is that you can pick a wheelbase and shift the bb fore and aft where you like it and you are just moving your feet back and fourth... and personally i dont like mine too far back. Or you can look at a bikes front/rear center ratio and wheelbase.
  • 2 0
 @TheRamma:
1mm change in chainstay length is as effective of a change as a 1.6-1.8mm+ change im front center.
  • 4 0
 @englertracing: jibbing for me is more about bunnyhops, spins, back wheel control and trials, in those instances shorter chainstays are drastically better. So is a higher bb, I always run my bikes in the highest setting if possible.
  • 1 0
 @aliclarkson: wut? Somebody who doesn't just slam it in the lowest/slackest!?
  • 3 0
 @englertracing: Are you really mansplaining jibbing to Ali Clarkson
  • 3 0
 @CobyCobie: No no, don't tell him - let him bury himself deep on this one, until he frantically goes onto youtube and figures it out.
  • 1 1
 @ratedgg13: not really im talking about how the front end feels when running it balls deep into a corner
  • 7 2
 I beg to differ. This is one of the few companies getting it right. Size-specific should not mean starting at 430 and ending up at 460 or something like that. Since I rode a Canfield for the first time I never looked back, no need for a chainstay longer than 435 on any bike size, imho.
  • 4 1
 @FuzzyL: Shout out to Canfield, my Lithium is the best-riding bike I've ever had.

@englertracing: I don't disagree, I don't think weight distribution via geo changes (within reasonable ranges of geo) is really as big a deal as the reviewers at PB make it out to be. Going from a 435 to a 450 CS on a bike (taking wheelbase from 1250 to 1275) shifts static weight on the front up by a whopping 0.4%. In my case, as a 195 lbs rider, that's less than a pound of extra pressure on the front end.
  • 2 0
 @TheRamma: Lol, nothing is as big a deal as either reviewers or pinkbike commenters make it out to be. Put anyone with talent on any bike and they'll pilot it like Max Verstappen around his training circuit.
  • 61 1
 The geo might be a little conservative, but I can see this as an incredible bike for big alpine days. On paper it looks maneuverable, comfortable and quite light. I think it's great to see options like that, plus it looks fantastic.
  • 28 42
flag Azrocktester (Feb 6, 2024 at 0:42) (Below Threshold)
 It's just like the old one ..just made to take your cash .
  • 18 33
flag chaoscacca (Feb 6, 2024 at 0:58) (Below Threshold)
 Agreed on most points, but damn their colors have to be the most boring in the industry.
  • 25 0
 @chaoscacca: I love the simple colours and graphic.

Also, it's easier to add graphics and colour, than take it away. Theres lots of options for custom frame protection with crazy graphics for those who want that.
  • 10 20
flag Zachmozach (Feb 6, 2024 at 3:19) (Below Threshold)
 @Azrocktester: it’s about 1.5 degrees slacker. Seat tube is about a degree steeper. Everything else is basically the same. Pivots all have conservative geo. When the last version came out I was very confused why they’d make a 160-142mm bike with a 66.5 degree head angle. Cocalis was saying how it was not enough travel to need a slack front end. I like the way pivots pedal but their geo is always like 6 years old.
  • 14 2
 The bike industry is giving me no reason to upgrade, which is fine by me.
  • 4 3
 @cpobanz: exactly, they’re just trying to convince some to buy another bike.
  • 23 0
 @Zachmozach: not every 140mm bike needs a 64 head angle. 65 is plenty for most trails and riders
  • 25 0
 This is a *very* slightly de-tuned 2019 Firebird. That was one of my favorite bikes and I STILL regret selling it.

Using a M for comparison to the '19 FB, the '24 SB is:
0.4" longer top tube
0.20° steeper head angle
0.25° steeper seat angle (!!)
0.2" lower bottom bracket
1.0" higher stack
0.4" longer reach
0.2" LONGER wheelbase

This bike is going to be awesome for 90% of the riders looking for something bigger than a XC/Trail ride that can handle all day epics without the weight penalty of a bigger park bike.
  • 3 8
flag Zachmozach (Feb 6, 2024 at 8:41) (Below Threshold)
 @maybemarcusking: Maybe but similar travel bikes like the sentinel, commencal meta, etc etc all tend to be sub 65, and are reviewed really well as great all around bikes. To each their own but my point is this is likely the geometry they should have gone with in the last version. For my wife that owns a switchblade having her hop on slacker bikes she seems to like them much better and she’s far from a racer. I also a hardball with around with a 63ish HTA that handles great. When I ride my Firebird I kind of wish it was a bit more slack and have considered an angle set.
  • 2 0
 @maybemarcusking: shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh vested interest
  • 4 2
 @chaoscacca: Yeah I’m not sure why they got rid of the green. Even if they would have changed it to a different green imo the black with white logo is lame.
  • 6 2
 @Zachmozach: Its good that all bikes aren't the same. There's still lots of skilled riders out there who dont need a super long, slack, sled of a trail bike to ride gnarly trails.
  • 2 2
 @colinb19: don’t think I said they should be the same. Just that pivot tends to be a bit conservative in their geo. I still like my firebird, but I wish it was slacker and can pretty much guarantee when the next one comes it it will be much like this. A bit slacker and steeper seat tube.
  • 14 2
 Why is the geo conservative? It is what it is, this isn't an Enduro bro bike, not everybody wants that. It's a modern, useful all around ripper. Just because it doesn't have a 63*HT doesn't mean it's conservative, it's just different.
  • 9 1
 Things like low tire pressure, soft suspension, plus size tires, super long low slack are excellent for new riders to keep them safer and feeling good. As you improve in skill sometimes you want a snappier more lively bike. You start to go up in tire pressure, harder suspension, etc. Looks like an awesome bike for someone with skill who wants to play around. Many bikes are going too long these days, I'm XL but enjoy L in most cases now. Options for everyone and of course everyone likes some things a little different.
  • 57 7
 Even if i'm not completely sold on SB+ 157 hub it's nice to see that Pivot is sticking to their philosophy.

This includes no high pivot nor headset routing bullshit.
  • 22 6
 And arguably the best QC in the industry. Pivots frames are immaculate, no waste carbon anywhere.
  • 13 12
 *sticking to the very expensive SuperBoost carbon mould that Dave Weagle convinced them to use after he promised SuperBoost would be the new standard
  • 2 0
 @stravaismyracecourse: Unfortunately a lot of the DW and split pivot stuff is superboost. Not just pivot.

Im in the market for a DH frame and specifically 148 rear spacing so I've always got extra hubs and wheels to swap.
  • 4 1
 @ATXZJ: I know -- I think DW design bikes are the only bikes using SuperBoost? Everyone else seems to have just stuck with regular ole boost.
  • 4 0
 @stravaismyracecourse: knolly uses superboost
  • 8 3
 @AddisonEverett: Agreed. I have never owned another frame/bike with a quality comparable to my 2013 Mach5.7c.

It's unfortunate that Pivot went SB157, while I settled on Boost148 for the whole fleet. If it wasn't for SB157, I'd probably still own a Pivot these days.
  • 2 2
 Pivot with some of their short-chainstay frames are one of the very few companies where super boost makes at least a little bit of sense. Allows for a better chainline while keeping tire clearance reasonable.
On most other bikes with their long chainstays there is plenty of room and absolutely no need to touch superboost (or boost, for that matter). Especially nowadays with strictly 1x drivetrains.
  • 3 1
 @Ttimer: Where does the idea of superboost being advantageous for short CS come from? I keep seeing this posted but i can't understand why people keep saying it? Boost has no clearance issues with super short chain stays.
  • 4 0
 @stubs179: that’s a vestige from the 27.5+ days and some folks thought 3” tires were the future.
  • 1 0
 @pmhobson: that makes sense. I have a pre-production Canfield Tilt with 420mm CS and a standard Boost hub. It has plenty of clearance because tubes are bendable.
  • 3 0
 @stubs179: @stubs179: The shorter stays are possible because of the wider chainline (55mm vs 52mm). The chainring/chainstay/tire interface right behind the bottom bracket gets really tight when designing a bike. Longer stays move the tire back, giving more room for the chainstays to do their thing while also allowing chainring clearance. By moving the chainring 3mm farther from the centerline of the bike, the chainstays can take up that 3mm, leaving room for the wheel to come closer to the bottom bracket shell. SB157 has nothing to do with what's going on at the rear axle, other than moving the cassette outboard a little bit (and making for stiffer rear wheels). This was a bigger deal in 2016 when plus size tires were a glimmer of a thing, but less of a big deal nowadays. Still, SB157 gives designers a bit more wiggle room in the tight area of the bike design than 148
  • 2 1
 @stubs179: Boost with super short chain stays is a harder compromise between suspension design, clearance and chainline. If there are no clearance issues with large tires, chances are that the other two design goals had to take a step back. Just take a look at the nasty diagonal that a 55mm chainline creates in the large cog on a boost hub. Very bad for chain and sprocket wear.
Sadly, some companies are even moving to 55mm chainlines on frames with long chainstays. Thats bad design but not obvious on the showroom floor and conveniently ignored by most bike reviews (NSMB being somewhat of an exception).
  • 55 16
 Superboost and press fit bottom bracket. Gross.
  • 8 2
 The only upside to SB wheels is that they are super cheap in the 2nd hand market.
  • 13 2
 nothing wrong with PF BB if the frames are made properly. The problem has always been Poor Frame tolerance, not PF as a standard.
  • 2 1
 @HeatedRotor: not only that, but a surprising amount of shops press in PF BB’s from the inner bearing race. That completely kills the bearings from the start.
  • 6 0
 @HeatedRotor: totally right. With proper manufacturing and QC, there is no reason to not use press fit bbs on carbon bikes. Metal bikes though? No reason to not tap some threads in there and use threaded.
  • 33 3
 Switchblade geo always get slammed by people that have never ridden the bike. The bike simply works. Super capable trail bike...especially if you live in the desert. Chainstays a bit shorter than pinkbike cool are great when lifting the front end onto boulders and jank. Slacker? it is a trail bike made in the desert. Turns out this geo works for trail riders in many parts of the country. But those living in the High Rockies, BC, of the far PNW (or the pinkbike comment basement) might not find the geo numbers cool enough.
  • 6 5
 I had the previous one and it didn’t work for me.
  • 8 0
 Agreed although I'm in the PNW and went from a Mach6 to a Switchblade in 2021 and absolutely love it up here. It's been ridden all over AZ a number of times and Moab proving to be a capable climber and fun descender in all geos. And no I don't work for Pivot lol, just stoked to have a bike that works so well for me.
  • 5 0
 That's very true - it's always been a desert plateau specialist for low speed "up & over" tech (Sedona, Moab, etc). The short wheelbase is handy for hucks with no run in, side hops, and other trials moves. I'd rent one while visiting the desert, but I wouldn't want one for the steep & rough stuff out here.
  • 3 0
 Pinkbikers are ploughing down the roughest downhill tracks in a straight line at Mach 2 all day, even on their trail bikes, and everybody knows you absolutely need chainstays at least the length of your top tube for that. Everything else is just unrideable and so twitchy you will crash it already in the parking lot…
  • 43 13
 Step 1: scroll down to see if the update is getting rid of superboost.

Step2: disappointment
  • 17 4
 It's crazy to think how many more bikes Pivot would have sold at this point without Superboost. Plenty of people on Rimpos that would look at this if it weren't Supa Boost.
  • 1 1
 @succulentsausage: Doesn't really matter when Pivot doesn't sell framesets.
  • 26 7
 Is it just me or do some of these build options seem somewhat reasonable when compared to other brands of this calibre? Around 7-8k for XTR/XT build isn’t cheap but compared some other bikes in the same catagory, doesn’t seem unreasonable.
  • 37 7
 No. Fox Preformance suspension on a $7,000 bike? Thats insane. Performance Elite is same as factory but without the gimmicky kashima which is a solid option on any build level but standard performance shouldn't be on any bike over $3,000 in my opinion.
  • 23 1
 The $6000 Scott Ransom from last week is an SX/NX build with DB8 brakes, and annoying cable routing.

I can put up with SLX/XT, superboost, and a Grip damper for $400 more.
  • 4 1
 @stubs179: Only thing not updated is the crazy pricing. Currently you can get an evil offering ls for $5,599. Thats with i9 enduro s and ultimate suspension.
  • 6 3
 @stubs179: it’s really just some extra adjustment on the fork and a lever on the rear shock, Performance is nearly identical inside otherwise, and rides great. can’t say the same about RockShox for the lower price options.
  • 4 0
 @ShredDoggg: so many other bikes out there that do the same job for a lot less now and it’s about time.
  • 7 11
flag Maxwrbike (Feb 6, 2024 at 10:35) (Below Threshold)
 @ShredDoggg: ew but then you have an evil....
  • 7 2
 @stubs179: performance suspension has the grip damper, same as what’s on the rhythm fork. Works quite well, but that’s a joke for a $7k bike. I have a rhythm 38 on my ebike, bring out the torches and pitchforks everyone, and the funny thing is, I spent $4k on that, specialized kenevo.
  • 2 0
 it's just you
  • 20 0
 Since when did a 65 hta become "sharp" for a trail bike? DH sled-sure, kick that front end out another couple of degrees, but I've never struggled on a bike with a 65 hta (even riding park).
  • 18 0
 Under 29 lbs is a nice direction shift compared to other bikes that keep getting heavier with each new revision.
  • 1 0
 And stronger?
  • 15 2
 Hope all you Pinkers who moan about chainstays getting longer are going to buy one of these then? Wink

And on that point, is the main reason for them using Superboost so that they can get the short rear end? In that case it's doubly pointless for my use.
  • 34 9
 Still superboost? That's what kept me from buying the last one
  • 1 0
 @fiftypercentsure: I'd assume so or they'd make a fuss about dropping it in the press release. Perhaps @dariodigiulio can confirm?
  • 1 1
 These grow 8mm according to the vital review.
  • 8 3
 @fiftypercentsure: Watch out, the superboost fan club will be on your heels.
  • 9 0
 I went and bought a banshee enigma with 418mm chainstays. TOIGHT.
  • 26 2
 I would be willing to wager that if I gathered together a random sample of PB posters and had them do blind tests of bikes with 135, 142, 148 and SB 157 rear spacings they would not be able to tell much if any difference b/t them regarding performance. I owned two versions of the same bike; one with 148 and one with SB 157. There was zero perceivable difference in performance b/t the two that could be attributed to rear spacing. What I did notice was how much of PITA it was going through the chain line acrobatics to get the SB 157 dialed, the new wheel and cranks needed and the fact that SB 157 is compatible with absolutely nothing else save maybe a DH 157 equipped bike. SB 157 no doubt works fine, but requires total commitment into that ecosystem. The main benefit appears to be for the designers whereas the benefits to the end user are less clear.
  • 14 18
flag rojo-1 (Feb 6, 2024 at 5:46) (Below Threshold)
 So bored of Super Boost hate. If your two bikes are trail/enduro and DH, then you can share rear wheels, which is a useful benefit in itself. Plus anyone with this money can afford a wheelset...
  • 3 0
 @rojo-1: " Plus anyone with this money can afford a wheelset..." Well yeah. If money is of no concern and you are not doing much of your own maintenance then none of this is an issue. If someone is in the position to have their bikes set up and maintained for them their user experience will differ greatly from someone who does it themselves. I brought up Cushcore recently with a friend who thought it was great, but they had it completely set up for them by their lbs. They hopped on their bike oblivious to the high number of f-bombs I dropped back when I first ran CC some six years ago. No hate from me. I simply related my experience.
  • 5 3
 @howejohn: more likely, the superboost chainstays will have already bashed his heels.
  • 4 3
 @hellbelly: I get it, and I do my own maintenance but it's not like you need to worry about SB until you've broken your first rear wheel. At which point you can just slap on a DH wheel, rebuild a new rim onto your SB hub or at worst buy another SB wheel. Not really the end of the world like people are making out. Personally I destroy so many rear wheels I don't exactly have a garage full of 148 spares lying around, and even if I did, these could be used on my other bike or sold on eBay...
Arguably there is a case for ditching 148 standard so we can all enjoy DH wheel strength on all our bikes.
  • 4 0
 @rojo-1: If strength is the number prior then the clear winner is DH 157. However, this causes chain line issues in non-DH bikes. SB 157 certainly has not been stronger in my experience and evaluators more knowledgeable than me had the same results. Again, SB 157 certainly works and those who want those bikes are going to run it. I just do not see any real benefits of it over 148. It's pointless to complain over "industry-standards" as every company is going for their own better mousetrap.
  • 1 0
 I would if I could afford one, but I'm a college student with a Family so my options are limited.
  • 2 1
 @hellbelly: Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the chainline the same for DH157 and SB157? I'm probably losing this argument by the mere fact that I have to ask this and proving that it is confusing. I thought it was just hub flange spacing. I've slapped a DH157 wheel on an SB bike and it worked just fine.
  • 2 0
 @rojo-1: I think it is, it's a 57mm chain line for both if I remember correctly. I could be wrong
  • 2 1
 @fiftypercentsure: It's ok the Pivot Shadowcat isn't Superboost, but the shorter travel Trail 429 is because all this nonsense total sense and a huge difference on the trail.
  • 2 0
 @rojo-1: Here ya go. enduro-mtb.com/en/super-boost-plus-standard Yes it will work as you've found, but you have to ask why didn't manufacturers just go with the DH 157 which is a stronger wheel?

"“For Pivot, we are able to design a bike with better tire clearance, better strength and stiffness in key areas" -Pivot from that article.

It seems to me that Pivot could've done the same with a DH 157 wheel. So it is not about the wheel, but the frame designers ability to create something they believe will provide benefit. Other companies and me do not think the aforementioned downsides are worth it.
  • 2 0
 I rented a switchblade during a trip to Phoenix and it was the best bike I've ever ridden. Would have bought one if they sold frame only.
  • 1 0
 @hellbelly: I noticed a significant difference in stiffness from 135QR to 142TA. But to your point, 142TA to 148TA not so much.
  • 12 0
 The geo seems spot on for the trails I ride where the climbs aren't as steep and rolling terrain is common. For a long day in the saddle on flatter trails a super steep seat angle is less than ideal, same with a super slack head angle. I wish the prce wasn't quite as steep though...
  • 12 2
 Compared to some other brands' cheapest build, this one looks pretty good already. Some may like to upgrade the shifter (SLX to XT) but other than that I can not really see anything that needs urgent upgrading. I do like the color too!
  • 11 0
 If your trails are chunky, and have lots of tech climbing, but aren’t crazy steep, this is the perfect trail bike. I have the last version and it feels like I’m cheating up tech climbs.
  • 11 0
 I get everybody's qualms with the switchblade, but it's still the only bike that ticks all my boxes as a do-it-all bike (XC to enduro) and I'm thankful it exists.
  • 8 0
 Hey, remember when the Switch blade first released and everyone collectively lost their shit over it? Best bike ever! It's so good! This and the V1 Ibis ripmo are the only thing anyone could possibly need. The peoples bike. Pepridge Farms remembers.
  • 13 3
 Obviously no one really rides big miles here at pinkbike..if anybody did you would know how horrible overly steep seat angles are.
  • 1 0
 What do consider to be big miles?
  • 1 0
 What bikes can you recommend for big miles without overly steep seat angles?
  • 11 5
 I drive to Lincolnshire on a regular basis to visit family - on the way there I drive past a car sales place that has MENTAL pricing for their cars. I actually slow down going past it just so I can make myself mad at the price they charge for very average cars. I get the same feeling when I see how much a low spec Pivot costs...
  • 4 0
 Yeah people seem to be going nuts about bikes going up in price but the car industry has been the absolute worst, I was looking at a new van the other day. By the time you actually get it on the road it was near enough €85k for a VW Transporter with lower spec than my current one which was around €50k new... A lot of cars seem to getting mad reductions now though, was a brand new Passat on the showroom floor with a saying pricing starts from €35k but it was a high spec version and listed as €28k...
  • 1 0
 The good news is that MSRP is just a starting point these days, with such huge sales on bikes almost everywhere. It would take something really special to get me to buy at new bike a full price. I bought a new bike for something like 40% off last November, was choosing between two bikes I liked equally but one was full price. I just saw that the full priced one I didn't buy is now almost 50% off........dang it!
  • 2 0
 Yeah it’s mad isn’t it? Given the current climate. They actually licked their finger, put it up in the air and said make it more expensive and give it shitter parts. Amazing.
  • 9 4
 This seems like exactly the same bike as the previous one. It would be interesting to know what parts are actually different because I would expect it’s not much.

Like 0.3 deg change on the HTA is basically within margin of error. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to hear this is the same bike as the 2020 model except they changed a lower link and did a paint/graphics update.
  • 5 0
 It's a .8 degree change, basically 1 degree and certainly noticeable
  • 1 0
 I’m agree!
Looks equal, and the new model, nothing that’s a good works angleset can’t do!
  • 9 0
 Pricing is just comical. F-it im going to take up bird watching.
  • 5 0
 The lowest tier build kit is great, and I'd be perfectly happy with it, but the pricing is just silly. Remember when a complete was the best way to get decent pricing, and shopping for every component individually the most expensive? Not with this bike.
  • 5 1
 I have a 2020 v2 Switchblade. It's an amazing bike and I see no reason to upgrade anytime soon. I'm sure these incremental edits are nice but its already such a capable and versatile machine. I also don't understand all the grief on SB 157. It works so well with this bike. Get over it and accept that there will be options in the marketplace. If its not your thing just buy something else and leave this incredible design to those of us who are stoked on it!
  • 4 0
 "still quite conservative relative to the broader market" Yeah, that's because everyone else is trying to sell enduro rigs as trail bikes. Good on Pivot for keeping the bike geometry sane. Not all of us want to ride a sled on every outing.
  • 5 2
 A bike should be ridden in a neutral position, having to consciously weight the front wheel is bad design/fit/setup.

Want a bike that manuals or hops easily? Accept having a shorter tt. Want a bike that excels at flat corners? Accept a longer cs.
  • 6 0
 Dario recommends a "good body position". You'd say a "neutral position" is better so that's how a bike "should" be ridden? Both "good" as well as "neutral" aren't too well defined so I'll just go by my personal interpretation where "good" would be "active" and "adequately adapted to the situation at hand whereas "neutral" would be "passive" and "static in a position that works for most/all situations". I think that if the geometry/position is such that you'd always have sufficient weight on the front wheel for the situation at hand ("unsupported corners" and "steeper/looser sections of trail" ) it would also catch on those loose sections when you'd just want to go straight ahead yet give you insufficient traction on the rear wheel to pedal through. To each their own of course but in my perception of what "should", the rider always adapts for loose and unsupported corners.
  • 10 5
 Wasn’t Pivot’s whole justification for SuperBoost originally that it enabled 27.5+ and front derailleurs to play nicely? So about that…
  • 12 7
 im just here to see all the little bitches complain about superboost and the geometry not being proper for world cup downhill trails.
  • 3 0
 600g/1.25 pound difference between the halo XX transmission build, and the halo XTR build. Looks like both build specs are fleshed out the same as far as wheels, tires, bars, saddle, etc. Weight diff comes down to drivetrain, brakes, and dropper.

I was already happily a Shimano guy. Even more now that I realize this.
  • 5 3
 Man, I keep thinking about replacing my SJ evo just to try a new daily driver, but nothing in the 140-150mm bracket looks better. Certainly not this. Maybe a Raaw Madonna with it's tall front end would be interesting, but I really don't want that much DH bike overlap.
  • 4 3
 Couldn’t agree more…there’s really no reason. Plus frame storage, more adjustment, boost spacing. Oh and new carbon frames are going for $2k and solid builds for $4k
  • 7 2
 Same same… but different
  • 5 0
 The size specific chainstay is 1mm longer
  • 1 0
 Is that possible? how does it compare, riding?
  • 14 0
 Total game changer
  • 4 4
 A 1mm growth in chainstay effects the weight balance between the front and rear more than a 3mm growth in reach does, just saying.
  • 7 6
 I'm sure they ride incredibly well, but they just have features I can't get past.

Their STA numbers are always on the low side,
Chain stays are too short (that size specific detail they have is nonsense). Maybe DW Link doesn't work so well with long chain stays, Ibis are super short too.
And the Press Fit BB and SB rear are the final turnoffs.

Middle sizing must be ace to ride. XL is to unbalanced for me to consider buying one.
  • 8 1
 I shopped for a Firebird pretty hard last year and ended up demoing a few.

The STA is misleading on pivots because although they’re “slack” on paper, the seat tubes are completely straight so you don’t have that actual vs effective STA going on. They’re incredibly comfortable to climb on.
  • 2 2
 You need to ride one. Probably the most well balanced bike on the market. The whole is this bike is greater than the sum of its numbers.
  • 5 1
 The XO T type size large weighs 30 pounds built. Well don’t Kevin and Chris, beautiful engineering.
  • 6 2
 Personally don’t get along with Pivot’s geo. Feels like you’re sitting over the rear hub. Nicely built bikes though.
  • 6 4
 $6,300 for an entry level, still insisting on the super booster hub, no in the frame storage, a frame chip to run 27.5 2.8 tires, but no real mullet option? same suspension, same travel, same everything else ... what update?
  • 5 1
 Slacker HTA, steeper STA, longer reach and new lower linkage. You're welcome
  • 6 2
 Chainstay length on the L is too long and too small on the M, I would have loved a 0.69mm increment, pls fix
  • 1 0
 I keep looking for the right bike to replace my metal GG Smash. The kinematics could be better and the chain stays need to be longer, but the fit for a six year old bike is so good. The straight seat tube with minimal offset gives me the correct saddle position at my ride height, which is the problem so many design with too much seat tube offset and a slack actual seat tube angle. The Pivot is close to the mark, but still the seat tube angle is a deal breaker for my tall ride height. I do like DW link bikes and am waiting to see if Ibis updates the horse-faced Ripmo.
  • 1 0
 I like the look of the Pivot range of bikes, although I do feel that for someone who would be after a bike with 27.5” wheels, I’d be limited to just one bike in the range.
Then, I look at the prices relative to the spec and think there’s nothing that comes close to the custom build I have on my 2020 Carbon Transition Patrol.
  • 12 9
 No one is gonna comment that Pivot don't cover their bearings?? You can literally see them without taking the frame apart.
  • 7 4
 On a 10k bikes is crazy
  • 8 3
 They are sealed and significantly better bearings than what you would find on a Santa Cruz
  • 17 1
 Ask a Pivot owner how many bearings they've gone through, and if they have gone through some, how long it took. You can gripe about Pivot for a number of reasons, but bearings ain't it.
  • 3 0
 @leopuurd: I had the previous switchblade and had to replace one of the bearings in the upper link within the 1st year. That bike wasn't ridden particularly hard because it was covid and where we lived didn't have great riding close by. I wouldn't say they're any better or worse than other brands based on my personal experience.
  • 4 2
 @loudv8noises: living in Phoenix and riding with many Pivot riders, I'd say that is an anomaly, and not the norm. I've had very good luck with my Switchblade bearings.
  • 2 3
 @leopuurd: Precisely - They recommend they replace them every 3 years. Santa Cruz bearings go out so quickly they you replacements for free lol.
  • 1 0
 @tkrumroy: Free is free tho lol. Onto my third set of Santa Cruz bearings in 6 months, but 1500+ miles in the PNW will roach anything.
  • 2 2
 @leopuurd: Not many people ride Pivot bikes in my country.
I've auctually servised a Switchblade where you could press out the bearings with your thumbs which is also sad. The bike had a hole on the frame where the rubber protector is behind the bb. A stone got stuck there and it rubbed a hole in the frame. Worst experience ever with that brand.
  • 3 0
 @max41: The drive side of Pivot links are press fit and the non drive side is a slip fit so yea you should be able to slip the bearing out with your hand. Torque drive side first then loctite the slip fit bearing pockets no prob
  • 8 8
 I really enjoy how the Pivot line of bikes ride but man are they crap to climb with. Sure if your 5’8” the seat tube angle is not bad but with a 36.5” inseam like myself your saddle is basically over the rear axle. Completely and utterly useless.
  • 4 0
 Tweaked, not transformed. Updated, not overhauled.
  • 5 1
 12x157 is a deal breaker, along with no frameset no care!!
  • 1 1
 Similar to other some others, I don't jive with this sort of geo and definitely prefer more modern numbers. But it would be such a boring MTB world if every bike was a Transition right?
Also, the vast majority of riders are essentially just cruising along, so max corner speed for example really doesn't matter so much in the end.
  • 2 1
 nice to see pivot havnt fallen into the Headset routing or High pivot Rubbish. Still wont be buying one, despite loving the PFR DH team.
Still way to expensive and no adjustability(Leverage/headset etc)
  • 4 2
 Still treating consumers like idiots by speccing an XTR derailleur with lesser parts on the rest, with almost zero added value and greater expense just for the ego-boost.
  • 3 0
 The Sun Eagle Talon is such a lovely bike !!
  • 3 0
 LOVE the Hite Rite on the 89 Switchblade!
  • 5 6
 Oh Pivot, you and your short chainstay love affair. Also, came here to verify the short chainstays and all the comments about it. Also no in frame storage is a miss. Good bike I'm sure but I'd like to try a Pivot as I have tons of friends who love them but for me they keep missing the mark.
  • 2 0
 Then buy something else. Isn't the free market grand?
  • 4 2
 Pivot has never had guided internal routing for their frames. It's all open. Not sure why that's written in here....
  • 5 3
 See Scott, there is literally zero excuse to be charging $6k and giving us SX/NX.
Scumbags.
  • 1 0
 It’s part of the integration @rich-2000:
  • 2 0
 You could have upped the retro-meta by putting some Tange Switchblade forks on that thing.
  • 2 0
 Criminally underrated comment
  • 2 0
 @dariodigiulio I'm grateful for reviews for reviews of XLs and Large mtbs - keep em coming please.
  • 1 1
 Those cables… big con is no internal cable routing through the headset. Pinkbikers are gonna hate but there are lots of consumers that want a cleaner look at this price point.
  • 24 22
 At this point it just feels like it's funding Bernard Kerr to prat about.
  • 5 3
 That pricing needs to get with the times.
  • 8 6
 It’s such a tough name for a country club bike
  • 2 1
 I’m entertained that the weight for the two lower priced bikes was left out
  • 3 0
 South mountain rips!
  • 6 3
 no frameset no care
  • 4 2
 I really like pivot (besides the superboot rears) but the inability to just buy a frameset means I will never ever buy one. They probably lose quite a few customers to that.
  • 1 2
 Are they using the older Code brakes instead of the newer Stealth versions (which are an improvement, allegedly)? Is that because Pivot have always been Shimano fanboys and SRAM won't give them the good stuff?
  • 2 1
 I'm holding out for size-specific chain rings.. This one size across all sizes stuff .... jeez! Wink
  • 2 0
 Hawes looks great, that is all.
  • 2 0
 enjoy that nice phoenix rain we got lol, it doesn't come super often.
  • 3 0
 Sick!
  • 1 0
 Pivot didn't mention the warning sticker on the PINK bike. Exposed to prolong sunlight will fade the paint !
  • 3 3
 meh, minor geo modifications in the end, to an already good bike, at least cables are going the right way even if not guided
  • 1 0
 I like how it enables you to do jumps and drops whilst sat down.
  • 10 9
 Dang still with the Super boost
  • 9 7
 11.5k lol
  • 10 9
 $12,000 for a bicycle, after taxes? I think the f*ck not.
  • 1 0
 Does anyone know if the new lower link is backwards compatible?
  • 1 5
flag novajustin (Feb 6, 2024 at 7:36) (Below Threshold)
 just get the cascade link. makes a world of difference.
  • 4 3
 No comments about Bernard... I'm disappointed Pinkbike comment section
  • 1 0
 Have a bouillon de culture bowl
  • 7 0
 the guy who preordered?
  • 4 4
 30 pounds fully built with T type, well done Kevin and Chris. Outstanding design and engineering here.
  • 1 0
 Holy shit bikes have changed!
  • 2 1
 cheapest version is $6.4K USD - WTF!
  • 2 1
 Exposed bearings, on a $6,000-12,000 bike. Wow, great job
  • 1 0
 Slacker than 65.2? Like wtf.
  • 1 0
 People say about ebike pricing then we have a pink pivot for $11,599
  • 3 2
 Nothing
  • 5 5
 hmmmm they should have overhauled it
  • 1 1
 How long until Pivot drops the price point to $5k?
  • 1 1
 Pivot rep says Pivot won't drop the price point...even though the last version had a cheaper version. #shrug
  • 1 1
 SUPERBOOST!!! :-D
  • 1 3
 76' STA?? Ah Pivot...poor Pivot.
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