First Ride: 2021 Forbidden Dreadnought - Ready for Anything

Feb 3, 2021
by Mike Kazimer  

Just about two years ago Forbidden entered the mountain bike world with the Druid, a 130mm trail bike that used a high single pivot suspension design, complete with an idler pulley.

Now it's time for the follow-up act. Meet the Dreadnought. If you're not familiar, a dreadnought is a class of battleship that emerged in the early 20th century. These ships had as many big guns and armor as possible, and were built for ocean domination. It's hard to come up with a bike name that hasn't been used, one of the reasons we often see companies just resorting to using travel numbers, but I'm a fan of this bike's name – it seems fitting for what it's designed to do.
Forbidden Dreadnought Details

• Wheelsize: 29" or mixed via Ziggy link
• Travel: 154mm rear / 170mm front
• Carbon frame
• 63.5° head angle
• Chainstay length: 450mm (size L)
• Weight: 34 lb / 15.4kg (As shown, size L)
• Sizes: S - XL
• Price: $6,499 USD as shown.
Frame with EXT Storia: $4,049 / Frame with Push ElevenSix: $4,249 USD
forbiddenbike.com


Moving from ships to mountain bikes, this Dreadnought has 29” wheels, 154mm of rear travel and a 170mm fork. For riders interested in going the mixed wheel size route, Forbidden offer the Ziggy link, a replacement lower link that's used to adapt the bike's geometry to a 27.5” rear wheel.

What's the Dreadnought for? Well, Forbidden have purposely refrained from putting it in any one category. It's a mountain bike, and if riders want to use it as a longer travel trail bike they can do that, just as easily as they could do an enduro race or hit up a bike park on it.

Forbidden Dreadnought
Frame Only... For Now

At the moment, you can only purchase the Dreadnought as a frame only, with either a Push Eleven Six or an EXT Storia coil shock. Color options are stealth or Deep Space 9, which is a glossy two tone black and blue. Those fancy shocks do bump the price up, and it'll cost $4,049 with the EXT shock, or $4,249 USD for the Push.

Eventually, you'll be able to get the frame with a Float X2 shock, which will put the price at $3,499 USD.

This bike shown here is the XT complete, which will be priced at $6,499 when it's available sometime in the second quarter of the year. An SLX complete will also be added later in the summer.

Forbidden Dreadnought

Frame Details

The frame shape closely resembles that of the Druid, but this one has been tested to standards usually reserved for DH bikes, and it's even dual crown compatible. There's chainslap protection on the seatstay, internal cable routing through the top tube, and room for a full size water bottle inside the front triangle.

There a cute little read fender, accessory mounting bolts under the top tube, and a bash guard / chain guide. Chain guides with lower guides aren't as common these days, but that's something of a necessity due to the idler pulley design – it help keep the chain wrapped around the chainring, and prevents it from bouncing off.

Forbidden Dreadnought
The Dreadnought is designed to work well with coil and air shocks.
Forbidden Dreadnought
The seatmast isn't super short, but it should be low enough to accommodate longer travel dropper posts.




Geometry

Let's take a quick run through of the key geometry numbers. There's a 63.5-degree head angle, a 484mm reach on a size large, and a 450mm rear center, also on a large. Forbidden changes the rear center length depending on the frame size in order to preserve the same level of balance for all rider heights. This is done with the shape of the front triangle - instead of using multiple swingarms, they're able to move the bottom bracket position to lengthen the front center.

There are a total of 4 sizes, from small to XL, which have reach numbers ranging from 440 to 506 millimeters, and a rear center length of 422 to 464mm. The effective seat tube angle measures 76-degrees across the board, and the actual seat tube angle gets steeper on the larger sizes, to help make sure taller riders don't end up too far over the rear wheel.


Forbidden Dreadnought
The Dreadnought has a rearward axle path that moves the wheel back 30mm by the end of the travel.

Forbidden Dreadnought
Forbidden Dreadnought


Suspension Design

The Dreadnought uses a high single pivot suspension design, which creates an axle path that's rearward throughout the entirety of the travel. According to Owen Pemberton, the bike's designer, that means the motion of the rear wheel closely mimics that of the fork. So instead of having the rear wheel go slightly backwards and then forwards, it moves back, away from whatever bump it's encountering. The leverage curve is progressive, with a fairly steep rate change at the end of the stroke that provides plenty of bottom-out resistance no matter if an air or coil shock is used.

Anti-squat sits around 115-120% at sag in order, and then drops off as it goes further into its travel. Those number were chosen to keep suspension calm during pedaling, even during out of the saddle efforts where a rider's weight shifts forward.


Forbidden Dreadnought
Forbidden offer an aftermarket link that can be used to run the Dreadnought with a 27.5" rear wheel.


Ride Impressions

How's the Dreadnought ride? Well, it's not really a big, lumbering battleship like the name might imply. It feels big but not lazy, and it's easy to carry good speed through rough sections, with a nice ramp up at the end of the travel that makes harsh bottom outs nearly impossible. I've been running 32% sag, and Forbidden says it's possible to go all the way to 38% sag without adversely affecting the performance.

As slower speeds it feels pretty normal and neutral – it's at higher speeds in rougher terrain that it feels like something different. There's so much stability, and it you can really carve into turns without losing traction. Bikes with this suspension design tend to be a little less poppy, and that's the case here, but by running fairly quick rebound I've been able to reduce that trait, and even on manmade jump trails it's been a good time.

If I had more time I'd likely toss on a higher rise bar, and maybe hunt down a longer travel dropper post to get that seat all the way out of the way in the steeps, but that's really it. Unfortunately I need to send this bike back relatively soon, but we'll work on getting one in for a longer term review to really dig into its strengths and weaknesses.








324 Comments

  • 452 8
 I'm glad Levy didn't review this bike. He's as unbiased as Jeremy Clarkson when it comes to bikes with idlers.

"It was amazing and rode really well. I didn't have any problems with the idler, but because it's there, it could theoretically break, so I give this bike 1 donut out of 5." *gets into British engineered Mini that breaks down every 83.4 miles and drives away*
  • 103 2
 It'd be every 44 miles if it wasn't for the Honda powerplant.
  • 12 10
 On the other hand it writes more like an uninspired James May chore review. At least Jemes would have coded in his real opinion, not just "it's fine".
  • 12 132
flag bombdabass (Feb 3, 2021 at 9:34) (Below Threshold)
 Mini's are made by BMW for years now. BMW is German.
  • 4 0
 Soooo Levy!
  • 6 1
 As someone who daily drives a mini, I would have to agree @defineindecline:
  • 8 0
 Lucas - Prince of Darkness.
  • 53 0
 @bombdabass: Levy drives a real Mini.
  • 25 1
 @bombdabass: Not Levy's. His was made in Kazakhstan.
  • 33 1
 The grim dreadnought. I'll see myself out
  • 3 0
 @jollyXroger: Very true. Not sure we got enough of a peak into the engineering for it to be a true May review, but definitely the same level of enthusiasm.
  • 2 0
 @bombdabass: engines are drin Peugeot
  • 2 0
 *from
  • 5 0
 All parts falling off this car are of the finest English craftsmanship ~best mini bumper sticker I’ve ever seen, as well it also had a giant wind up key
  • 12 1
 For anyone that likes the original Mini and upgrading them, look for Project Binky on YouTube, now 33 brilliant episodes showing one being made 50% Japanese.
  • 3 0
 @Riggbeck: been watching it over the 3-4 years, completely nuts. One of the best shoe horns I’ve seen. There was a mini at the local mini club that had the front end extended by a foot to squeeze in a Honda 2.0l lump, seams a little boring in comparison now
  • 1 0
 @mattvanders: F20 S2000 engine I'm guessing?
  • 1 0
 @defineindecline: more likely a K20
  • 2 0
 @ssrr: yeah, I can see that. I saw lengthening the frame and thought RWD conversion but the manifold and head design of the K20 could definitely warrant that amount of modification. Didn't think of that.
  • 1 0
 @suspended-flesh: Exactly. Check the Mfg dates before entering the convo, bombdabass...
  • 1 0
 Hahahahahaha, so true!
  • 1 0
 It does look a bit like the inside of a watch, looking at the drievtrain side-on. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, just how it struck me.
  • 1 0
 @defineindecline: no, would of been an integra engine I believe
  • 85 3
 Longer rear centers AND steeper actual seat tube angles to work with longer reaches??? What can we complain about now? Big Grin

This is a seriously good looking bike, both to the eye and on the geo chart. It will be a winner.
  • 29 1
 Not enough room for sandwiches and tea set?
  • 50 4
 Agreed. And the price haters...this is a tiny brand doing some really cool shit in teh middle of COVID...give them a break, they need to make money. Bike looks sick for those wanting a UNIQUE big enduro sled.
  • 13 34
flag bobthestapler (Feb 3, 2021 at 10:12) (Below Threshold)
 No Aluminum version.....
  • 14 1
 @bobthestapler: while a valid complaint, if santa Cruz is anything to go by aluminum frames with a shock tunnel can be very heavy
  • 6 7
 Just look at the seat position on the picture Wink Great that they made seat tube angles progressively steeper. Too bad that SA is still a bit too lack, at least for a 180cm guy on a large.
  • 3 2
 @lkubica: haha I saw that, I'm thinking it could also be due to the reach being too long in the size he was riding. @mikekazimer what's up with the seat being slid all the way forward?
  • 23 0
 @bobthestapler: while I like the new breed of affordable aluminum bikes, we don't necessarily need to take an "aluminum all the frames" approach. Especially from a small company who now makes two frames. Let's allow Forbidden be good at what they are good at instead of forcing them to grow too quickly.
  • 67 4
 @pnwpedal, that’s where I wanted it. Seats have rails for a reason.
  • 22 2
 The Pontiac Aztek looked unique as well. Believe it had a similar idler pulley.
  • 8 32
flag Purpledragonslayer (Feb 3, 2021 at 12:21) (Below Threshold)
 @mikekazimer: And why did you want it there (rhetorical question)? You know you guys can really sound like jerks in the comments?
  • 6 3
 @mikekazimer: thank you for the enlightening response! Big Grin

Do you feel it was more to steepen the ST angle, or shorten the reach?
  • 21 1
 @pnwpedal, any time Wink Remember, reach only matters when you're standing up; it's more of a hint of how the bike will feel on the descents rather than when you're sitting down and pedaling. That seated position is dictated more by the top tube length. I put the seat there to achieve the pedaling position that I wanted.

As I mentioned below, I would have been fine with a little steeper seat angle, but I was able to find a comfortable position on this bike without much issue. And there was still room to slide the seat even further forward if I wanted.
  • 5 3
 @mikekazimer: thanks for adding those details. I agree fully as I struggle to find a comfortable but efficient seated pedalling position due to old injuries. I imagine that's why I pay a bit more attention to geometry and setup than most. Or it could also be that I'm just a very particular tech nerd.
  • 12 2
 Effective Top Tube is the best measurement for seated position riding.
  • 2 0
 @pnwpedal: I think you meant the effective top tube must be too long, not the reach.
  • 2 2
 @rzalewski6 @thustlewhumber totally was thinking ETT but typed reach. We really don't discuss ETT much these days... It's just reach for frame length, and ST angle for seated position (but at what saddle height is a mystery for most frames). It's pretty tough to compare different brand frames when geo charts don't necessarily have the same measurement standard. I'm a huge supporter of listing ST angle at XYZ height for a more accurate comparison.
  • 4 0
 Remember that this bikes high AS and proportional rear centre will contribute to a it’s seated climbing position. These numbers on a more typical bike with 80% AS and 435mm RC (at sag) would have significantly more suspension actuation/compression when climbing, slackening the relative SA a degree or so.
  • 2 0
 @jclnv: hey we agree on something
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: Where’s the fun in that?
  • 2 0
 @lkubica: I'm on a druid and I don't think it's slack at all. One thing to consider, with an over forked bike the sta steepens relatively as you sag the fork. Its a pretty solid riding position. I dont trust a lot of companies sta claims given the relative VS actual. Forbidden is pretty on the money with theirs.
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: How tall are you Mike - trying to get a gauge of sizing. I'm 6.1' run an S4 enduro which fits perfectly. Curious what your height is and what size you would choose if you were to buy the Dreadnaught for yourself?
  • 1 0
 @hamncheez: It's the miracle of 2021
  • 57 1
 When you get the opportunity to take out a dreadnought, you take it. - Poe Dameron
  • 5 1
 may the force be with you
  • 40 0
 Glad the wait is finally over. This thing has been teased and leaked for months
  • 201 5
 That's what she said
  • 23 45
flag scary1 (Feb 3, 2021 at 9:37) (Below Threshold)
 I was so ready to drop the coin but that downtube decal is horrible. Looks like peal and stick stickers from a Hobby Lobby
  • 10 0
 @scary1: got to agree I though at first it was the prototype only with that but the druid decals looks wayyy better.
  • 54 3
 @scary1: not going to buy a frame because of a decal? wow....
  • 40 4
 @scary1: That has got to be the shittest reason not to chose a bike.
  • 25 0
 @scary1: then it would say "Live. Love. Laugh." in cursive.
  • 38 4
 @nouseforaname: It problem means he/she can't afford it, and they're making themselves feel better about it by nitpicking the only potential flaw on this bike. Kind of like how I canceled the pre-order on my Bugatti Chiron because the stitching on the back of the passenger seat isn't to my taste.
  • 7 16
flag uphill-blues (Feb 3, 2021 at 10:35) (Below Threshold)
 @pnwpedal: you just insulted 90% of women on social media who have that as their motto.
  • 9 0
 @pnwpedal: if it were truly forbidden it would say VERBOTEN in battleship font and we could buy a hoodie that reads 'Gone verboten'
  • 4 5
 @scary1: hate to say it, but that's what stopped me pulling my credit card out the minute I saw the bike. You can probably sand it off, so no biggy.
  • 11 0
 @fullendurbro: you know you can spec any color stitching you want. That's what I did. Getting the Thule rack on the roof was the hard part
  • 1 2
 @pnwpedal: THATS funny!
  • 6 3
 @jaydawg69: it’s f*cking sarcasm. What happened to this page??!
Jeeezus, humorless children
  • 6 0
 @scary1: it’s Sensitive Wednesday! You should know that by now...
  • 3 0
 @scary1: have to use /s if not serious but this is pb so who knows whose serious or not.
  • 2 0
 @BenPea: Fanatik in bellingham prolly hook you up with some replacement decals...
  • 1 2
 @scary1: you're not funny though... humorless child.

Try not to let all the downvotes get you so upset.
  • 27 1
 Got mine on the way already! So excited!
  • 21 0
 Here: "Forbidden have purposely refrained from putting it in any one category"

Forbidden's website "INTENDED USE: ENDURO / BIKEPARK"

Lol semantics aside this is a sweet looking bike!
  • 33 0
 Well...that is TWO categories.
  • 24 1
 a highly anticipated pivot
  • 27 5
 BCPOV is punching the air rn
  • 19 2
 In sadness?... last video says he's not riding for Forbidden anymore.
  • 6 1
 He's not with them anymore.
  • 3 0
 I think he'll be just fine.
  • 1 0
 @islandforlife: shouldve stayed
  • 6 1
 @Ikeller21: he actually said he doesn’t want the pressure and responsibilities of having a sponsor. Made it sound like he’s making enough through YouTube and patreon that he can do it without a sponsor and not bother with the required sponsor stuff and just do whatever he wants. Who knows maybe he’ll just buy a Dreadnaught! He did also talk about wanting to be on a high pivot bike but with more travel... but there weren’t many options available.
  • 15 0
 @mikekazimer it would be really cool if you could eventually draw comparisons between the dreadnought and the Banshee titan, given the similar numbers.
  • 18 2
 464mm chain stays on the xl? Plus, it gets longer thru the travel! I'm long chainstay curious, but that is pretty out there.
  • 4 2
 Yeah it’d be 494 chainstay at full compression, making your weight feel farther forward on the bike during your biggest impacts. I’d like 440 or 445mm length. At 6’2” the bikes I’ve ridden with 445mm stays were the sweet spot.
  • 6 19
flag PJSANAB (Feb 3, 2021 at 10:17) (Below Threshold)
 Super long Chain Stays, long seat mast (seat post), not as poppy, plus it has an idler pulley.... guessing they’re riders that want this but I can see why Lewis Buchanan left.
  • 4 9
flag porkchopsandwich (Feb 3, 2021 at 10:33) (Below Threshold)
 Agreed... Wheelbase of 1325mm. Thats LONG! Dont know about anyone else but that thing is not getting around too many corners in my neck of the woods. IMO thats the problem with testing bikes in the PNW The trails Ive ridden up there and the ones I've seen on video not too many flat or tight corners.
  • 2 0
 Yeah I think my stays that are 30mm shorter for similar reach/HA are balanced enough
  • 3 1
 With that extreme of a departure from modern geo (aside from eebs since they're longer because motor and steep climbs) I'd expect this bike to have adjustable chainstays.
As someone who switches between 458 chainstays (Sight VLT 29) and 435 chainstays (Ripmo AF) the difference is more noticeable than the 1deg head angle, or 10mm reach that differs between the two. I think 445 might be a good sweet spot, but more bikes need adjustable chainstays. Long for bike park season, short for winter trail rides.
  • 12 2
 So you guys don’t want proportional weight distribution?
  • 1 0
 @ejopdahl: So, a Deviate Highlander with a 150mm link (443mm CS, 65° HTA, 75° STA, 29mm BB drop)?
  • 2 0
 @jclnv: I'm not saying it's bad. I haven't ridden it, or any 29er with a rear center even close to that long so I have no idea. It's just an observation that it's significantly longer than most, definitely pushing the envelope.
  • 2 6
flag nurseben (Feb 3, 2021 at 12:07) (Below Threshold)
 @porkchopsandwich: The rear center increases in length as the suspension compresses, but most of us are not compressing the suspension when riding tight corners nor when riding tech, so the longer rear center is only when taking big hits which should be when you're going straight.

As a guy who prefers a short rear center, currently riding a GG Shred Dogg with 423mm RC, I'd like to see the bike start a little shorter; maybe I could get downsize to a medium frame, but I'm probably sized for a large.

I'd really have to ride this bike to see if it'll work, so not a bike I'd buy blind.

It's a shame they tweaked the front triangle to adjust RC. If they'd gone with tweaking the rear triangle there'd be the option to run a shorter or longer rear triangle.
  • 5 0
 @porkchopsandwich: I'm certain that this bike wasn't designed with your neck of the woods in mind then... at least there's no claims of it being a "quiver killer"...
  • 2 0
 I ride a bike with 450mm chainstays but the reach is only 475 (size L) and I’m only 5’9 so it probably feels the same for me as it would for you with 464mm chainstays. I can say that it feels great, you can ride further on the back without loosing grip on the front which gives you a lot more confidence leading to more speed, which in my eyes is what I want from a bike.
  • 2 2
 Agree those are some wild figures. Not convinced it would feel balanced.
  • 5 1
 Minnaar’s bike’s WB is around 1300mm and the rear centre is 462mm. Seems like this bike is bang on if you know what your doing?
  • 2 0
 @Linc: FC to RC ratio is what determines balance. Forbidden maintains this ratio across sizes, so theoretically they all have the same balance.
  • 2 1
 Gotta agree, as an XL rider who likes long stays, 464 with a rearward axle path is too long even for me.
  • 3 1
 @jclnv: There are more factors in weight distribution than just FC:RC ratio (very dynamic!). Tall folk aren't complaining about having a constant ratio, they're complaining about the other effects of this such as unneeded wheelbase and decreased agility on a bike that's already significantly less agile than the size M.

Side note: I would be curious to see if varying HA across sizes would help keep "similar" handling across a range. It would cater to more people if chainstays were adjustable.
  • 2 1
 @CobyCobie: Tall folk = higher CoG requiring a longer wheelbase to maintain stability. Anyway there’s always the option to size down.
  • 2 0
 @Linc: @Linc: I'm sure it rides great and is "balanced" according to their formula, but it's not gonna be the quiver killer that some mid travel bikes seem to have become.

This bike probably rides great at speed while straightlining gnarly stuff and running downhill jump lines, but yeah, probably a touch on the long side for all mountain riding. It ought to climb okay, so for enduro use it could be worthy.

I'm actually more interested in the Druid, still contemplating one, though long wheelbase on that bike is also something to consider.
  • 1 1
 @porkchopsandwich: Longer chainstays will allow you to carry more speed through flatter corners.
  • 4 0
 Don’t forget, the fork also moves back, shortening the wheelbase under compression. The net result is the wheelbase should stay relatively consistent as the suspension compresses instead of getting shorter.
  • 1 0
 Sure, but the wheels are essentially both moving backwards during a critical moment. I have experienced this with my banshee legend, and it was a bit awkward for me at least. But I still think rear path is dope. I just think the stays should be shorter. But can’t knock it till I try it. @carym:
  • 2 1
 @ejopdahl: nope. It doesn't make you feel father forward. It makes it feels awesome on landings.
  • 2 2
 @jclnv: they don't know. You don't know what you don't know. We'll look back in years to come and laugh at the stupidity of the race for the shortest chainstays. Doesn't work for tall people.
  • 2 2
 @nurseben: unqualified opinion. And you're wrong
  • 2 2
 @nurseben: I'm faster and more comfortable on the XL Druid than any bike I've ridden. Had a 29 Foxy, Liteville 301, Wreckoning, Switchblade and so on. Get a ride on one, you'll like it.
  • 12 1
 Looks like a really interesting bike, and I’m excited to see the full review.

But yikes, that frame only price is UP there.

Hopefully the new Norco Range (which is also rumored to be a high pivot) will be priced a better? Something that mere mortals can afford?
  • 15 0
 price is high because of the shocks... the Druid frame only price was $4k CDN which isn't bad. Don't expect the Range to be much cheaper.
  • 21 0
 Itll be 3500$ with a Fox, what mainline carbon frame is less with a similar shock? It only seems expensive because it comes with a gucci boutique brand shock.
  • 8 0
 @nouseforaname: ya, cheaper than trek slash frame only
  • 9 2
 It comes with an EXT or PUSH shock. Plenty of frames in that price range even without the fancy shocks
  • 5 0
 @nouseforaname:

You're right, some of it is because of the fancy shocks. With the Fox shock its still seems to be above average, but not by as much. Probably in line with more boutique brands though (which admittedly I don't look at the carbon boutique brands very often, which is probably part of the reason behind my sticker shock).

Specialized Enduro is $2900 with a DPX2 (and until recently was $2700).

GG frames cost ~$2300 without a shock.

Norcos Sight C is $3050 with a Fox Float X2, and the Aluminum frame is $1650 with a RS Super Deluxe.

I'm hopeful that the Range will also be available in Alloy. I'd say its pretty even odds looking at Norcos other bikes (Sight is in both AL and Carbon, Optic is half carbon, Fluid and Shore are both alloy only). So fingers crossed I guess.
  • 5 7
 @jaydawg69: Price is still nuts if you compare it to the Nukeproof Giga that just came out. $2600 with a Factory X2 vs $3500 with a Performance X2 (maybe still has all the knobs just not Kashima coat?) I'm drowning in the high pivot Koolaid but not for that price difference.
  • 2 2
 @ocnlogan: I wish more than anything the new Range would be available in alloy but I've been talking to my local dealer a lot about the new Range and it's looking like the "alloy Range" is just the Shore. I really hope I'm wrong.
  • 5 0
 @coletrane-mtb: 100%. Still waiting for an (affordable) aluminium high pivot bike here.
  • 11 0
 @nouseforaname: yup - a Rocky Altitude frame is $3860 USD or $4700 CAD - for a pretty basic frame.
A Yeti SB130 is $4800 CAD with a DPX2 - I'm scared to look for a SB150 with an X2 - it would be over $5000 CAD for sure. An SB150 is $3900 USD.
I'd say Forbiddens aren't cheap, but they're cheaper than a lot of other high-end boutiquey brands...
  • 1 0
 @coletrane-mtb: I think you want to debate the price of botique vs direct to consumer prices. While that is a worthy discussion, the price of this new bike amongst other boutique brands is actually pretty competitive.

If you're going after rock bottom prices without major compromise, nothing can stand against Marin's Alpine Trail Carbon for $2100 USD. You can get the aluminum full build (no frame only option) for $2500 with deore and a Yari; probably part it all out for $800 and you've got yourself an aluminum frame for even less.

Specialized sold their first gen stumpy evo for like $1700 frame only (aluminum), but they don't have an aluminum evo nor do they sell a frame only.
  • 13 0
 @coletrane-mtb: You're comparing a tiny company in BC who have like 2 or 3 employees with one of the biggest internet bike order companies? CRC probably have more full time racers than Forbidden has full time employees.
  • 20 7
 Ha! Sold out on their site with no option to pre-order - solid release!
  • 44 0
 Hey, hit up your local Forbidden dealer, all sizes will be available at shops in the coming week.
  • 2 0
 @ForbiddenBike: OK will do - thanks
  • 3 28
flag onemind123 (Feb 3, 2021 at 9:29) (Below Threshold)
 @ForbiddenBike: but I want to keep socially distanced from bike shops and do all my ordering online
  • 24 0
 @onemind123: if only there was a way of contacting a bike shop without going there in person... oh well...
  • 9 1
 @onemind123: call the shop lol
  • 2 1
 @ForbiddenBike: im in for a Large with. where is my London Forbidden dealer!? lol
  • 10 0
 @conoat: Ace Bicycles in Guildford, Surrey would be your closest dealer. They should have stock very soon!
  • 2 0
 @ForbiddenBike: great shop ,i was dribbling over the druid in there a year back ,toby makes great coffee
  • 1 0
 @ForbiddenBike: what about us up in the nordic countries?
  • 1 0
 @ForbiddenBike: Any reason why online pre-orders are not an option?
  • 6 0
 @onemind123: there is a socially distant technology from the past you may want to consider called the telephone. With it, you can reach out to your local store and make an order while staying home. Not only that, you will have a real live person who you can talk through options with, and they may even know something about bikes!
  • 1 0
 @ForbiddenBike what about us in the southern hemisphere? I want one.
  • 1 0
 @Lts3000: We have dealers and distributors located in both Australia and New Zealand. Have a look at our dealer finder on our website to locate your nearest
  • 11 0
 the moment when you realize that a top-of-the-line Fox shock is dropping the price of a frame set by almost 1000 bucks is humbling, to say the least . . .
  • 1 0
 I've seen that also. Amazong how big the difference in $ is. Would love to try EXT suspension
  • 3 3
 There’s nothing top of the line about a fox x2...
  • 7 0
 I'm sure some pedant will be posting about the HMS Dreadnought - the ship - and how it was revolutionary in its era. The first all big gun battleship, fast, heavily armed and armoured, and so potent that it immediately started a world wide naval arms race that precipitated some of the tensions between Great Britain and Germany that ultimately led to the outbreak of the First World War - but I'm sure that's not quite what Forbidden had in mind when naming this bike. It's a cool frickin' name btw.
  • 6 0
 Great bike, nothing bad to say about it, maybe a bit more travel in the back would suit this style of bike more and make it seem more of a competitor to the Specialized Enduro etc, but geo looks solid, aesthetics look great, hight pivot, huge space for water bottles, 11/6 or EXT, you can't go wrong...if I didn't currently just build an sb165 with 11/6 I'd consider this with no hesitation. Absolute winner of a bike.
  • 9 1
 This type of suspension can do a lot more with smaller travel numbers.
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 I'd have to guess that going longer travel might get tricky with the way the linkage works or the axle path or something. That being said, one of the common notes that people have made about the Druid is that it rides like a trail bike, but the rear suspension handles impacts like there are an extra 10mm+ travel to work with. So maybe they just found the right travel to balance the feel front-to-rear with the intended fork spec.
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 Dreadnaught is a badass name for this bike.
  • 5 0
 Technical question: How can those bikes with varying chainstay lenght can retain same wheel travel through the sizing range? Do they have to redesign the whole suspension layout to keep wheel travel and kinematics for each size?
  • 6 2
 They won't, the longer stays will have a bit more travel. Tbh most manufacturers don't always state the true lab tested wheel travel anyway..The specialized Enduro for example has more actual wheel travel than is stated.
  • 17 0
 Last time I checked the rear center measurement change was created by moving the BB forward. So each size is a unique front triangle. Not rear. I doubt there’s any travel changes from size to size.
  • 1 0
 @fitnj: makes sense, thanks
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 @fitnj: Yep, that's how they do it. Whoever first thought of doing it that way deserves some serious props, it's a very smart solution.
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 @fitnj: but then doesn't that mean the seat angle has a slacker effective angle if the bb is more forwards? They would then have to more the seat angle forwads too messing other geo up etc?
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 @Danzzz88: No, well fitnj, didn't word it perfectly. they actually move the pivot locations on the front triangle forward or backwards relative the the bb and the rest of the front triangle instead of moving the bb relative to the rest of the front triangle. If that makes sense.
  • 2 0
 @kcy4130: assuming is was owen's idea? norco birthed that design detail back when he was working there. makes so much sense, tho.
  • 9 0
 @kcy4130: that's the correct way of looking at it. This way the geometry is not compromised. Doing this with a traditional drivetrain will result in changes to the anti squat generated in the system per size, however as our Trifecta design uses an idler this effect is all but eliminated. It really is a beautifully simple way to solve a problem.
  • 8 0
 63.5* HTA. That is slacker than my downhill bike.
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flag gorideyourbikeman (Feb 3, 2021 at 10:01) (Below Threshold)
 i wonder if you can pedal in a straight line up hill. these slack bikes feel soooo goofy to me.
  • 8 2
 My G16 w/ ~61° HTA climbs uphill better than my Chromag Surface w/ 67°
  • 1 1
 @gonecoastal: because...hard tail?
  • 3 1
 @CircusMaximus: No, because it's actually got balanced geometry, unlike most hardtails.
  • 7 2
 Been waiting forever for this bike, but sadly hate the colourway. I would love for them to offer the black frame at the lower specs, or as a frame only option. Yes, I am bitching about colourway... I'll show myself out.
  • 5 2
 This bike looks rad. Too much travel for me but I'd love to give it a rip one day.

I actually have a druid build coming together for this season and couldn't be more stoked.

One thing I can't change about the build but I would like to is the idler and guide... was E13 the only company that could provide these parts? It would be extra cool to see Oneup, We Are One, or Raceface provide those parts. Keep it all Canadian.
  • 4 1
 It'd be nice if they showed anti-squat for more than just one gear, and at the very least, if they said what's the gear for the one curve that they're showing. They could easily have cherry picked the gear with the most marketable anti-squat curve. I see this issue often of anti-squat shown for a single gear.
  • 3 1
 I believe most of the antisquat from a high pivot comes from the force vector from the tire contact being so far below the pivot. The chain tension is very minor.
  • 2 2
 @Bahh: That's not true. Download Linkage and play around with high pivot designs, and check anti-squat for various gears.
  • 1 0
 @cedrico: don't know why you're downvoted as moving the idler a minor amount can have a massive effect on anti-squat!
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 @Weedling: I designed and built two high pivot bikes, but of course, Pinkbike armchair engineers know better and must downvote me.
  • 2 0
 @cedrico: haha truth. I also built a high pivot, finished last week! Gave it 160% anti squat with minimal kickback mostly based on where the ldler was placed.
  • 1 0
 @Weedling: Cool! 160% is a lot! Does it have so much anti-squat that it bobs because of extension above the sag point when the crank is near the 9/6 o'clock position? (opposite of regular pedal bob, but still pedal bob)
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 @cedrico: pro-squat?? Haha. Early days, only 2 rides but ive tried to look out for it and i don't think it does, just feels very firm under power and is great on flat pedally / twisty bits. Might put a gropro filiming the shock sometime! Even if it does then i for sure prefer it
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 @Weedling: It must be awesome when standing up and pedalling. And filming the shock is a good idea! I'd be curious to find out if there's pro-squat (seems like the right term).
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 @cedrico: the actofive bike has 170 antisquat so if youre interested in looking at higher values for future bikes keep an eye out on reviews and feedback! I think its the way forward on high pivot designs myself
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 @Weedling: The Actofive (or at least a previous model) has 170% anti-squat only in the highest gear (10t): bikerumor.com/2020/06/05/aasq-71-high-pivot-witchcraft-forbidden-commencal-deviate-starling-actofive-dispel-myths
It has 155% squat in the 16t gear. They should show the whole range. This harks back to my previous point about people possibly cherry picking curves. Also worth noting that there's no mention of what height of center of mass they chose when calculating those anti-squat curves. For all I know, the Actofive could have normal 120-130% anti-squat in the relevant pedalling gears.
I just checked Levy's review of the Actofive and he doesn't mention the amount of pedal bob, but he says things like "The German bike will move along nicely if you stay seated and spin circles rather than stomp out fires" and "When left fully open, the coil-sprung shock is never going to make for a bike that leaps forward when you get on the gas".
I wonder if a bike with ~170% anti-squat in the pedalling gears would have reverse pedal bob or reduced traction because of the suspension excessively firming up during the pedalling strokes. We should keep in touch! I'll send you a direct message.
  • 5 1
 Surprised no one has mentioned that Dreadnought essentially means fear nothing. Adds a really cool double meaning to the name and its perfect for a dh/enduro bike.
Dread = Fear
Nought = Nothing
  • 2 0
 Pretty sure it’s Dre Adnaught
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 "Frame Details" picture shows scratched up head tube from cable rub.

I just don't understand why cable entry points aren't angled out a bit more steeply, or put right at the front of the head tube so you don't have to cover the frame in protective film to stop cable rub. It's not like people are needing to shift and x-up at the same time...

Is it a conspiracy by Big FrameWrap?
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 Ok now make one with 27.5 front and rear and 170mm+ of travel and I'll buy one.
  • 1 1
 Not sure why you are getting downvotes for stating a preference not like you bashed 29. I too would be all over a bike like this if it came in a 27.5 front and back option
  • 4 0
 This! ...love on first sight!
  • 2 0
 Any big fellas (250+) that can speak to Druids performance? So far, Evil is the only bike that really works for me. Wondering if this can compete.
  • 2 0
 I'm 240 or so, it's fantastic. Low ratio on the shock really helps.
  • 1 0
 I like it! even that beefy seatpost looks great. The only thing I would wish to change is to make the head/down/toptube jumction a little boxier/angular to match the rest of this fine-looking beast.

I want one.
  • 4 0
 Forget about the idler, IT CAN FIT A WATER BOTTLE!!! YAY!!!
  • 1 0
 How about that storage compartment near BB? Spare tube will fit there?
Is it harder to bunnyhop due to increasing chainstays lenght while suspension compression?
How heavy is the frame with shock?
  • 3 0
 I have a Tubolito tube, derailleur hanger, Wolftooth pack pliers wrapped in duct tape, patches and some zip ties stuffed in the storage compartment of my Druid with a bit of moto foam to keep it quiet. I'm assuming the Dreadnought hole (donut hole?) is roughly the same size.
  • 2 0
 Apologies if I missed it, but has everyone forgotten this?
www.pinkbike.com/news/review-deviate-highlander-there-can-only-be-one.html
  • 1 0
 I guess that is more of a comparison with the Druid or sits in the middle of these to forbiddens, still looks like and awesome bike though
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 That which pivots backward must pivot forward again. This high pivot stuff gets a bit oversold as a cure-all. What happens in the damper and what kind of feedback is given to the rider during the REBOUND stroke when all that rear end mass swings back forward? This is the part that no one selling them seems to talk about. In all the testing I've seen, there is most definitely a trade off for all that rear center growth, regardless of the chain's path. I'm not against high pivot bikes at all, but I would prefer if there were some more honest data out there about the trade-offs of the design. I know Scott bikes has plenty from their time experimenting on their world cup DH bikes a few years ago. They ended up going away from it.

www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/PIT-BITS-Val-di-Sole-World-Cup-Downhill,11844/Brendan-Faircloughs-High-Idler-Prototype-Scott,123095/sspomer,2
  • 2 0
 I haven’t ridden one yet, but I am curious about this same thing. However I don’t see how it would really affect anything. Regular axle paths just push the tire back into the ground, anyway. Also with the different shocks that they spec on it, you could fine tune both the high and low-speed rebound, so I’m sure you could get it to feel a little more natural or comfortable on the rebound. Either way, it sounds like perks outweigh the quirks!
  • 4 0
 Rebound happens with much less speed and force than the initial compression so I imagine thats favorable.
  • 2 0
 I juuuuust figured out the connection between the “Fear Nothing” ad copy of the teaser videos, and the model name “Dreadnought”. Haha. Good one @forbiddenbikeco
  • 1 0
 On a more interesting topic; mad minis: how about a 4.6 Rover V8 in a classic mini or a BMW S54 3.2 i6 from an M3 in a classic? Both rear wheel drive of course......the mad mini world of the UK :-)
  • 4 0
 Take my money
  • 3 1
 I have a brand new carbon Altitude and yet, this bike makes me fantasize **drool**
  • 2 0
 Next one better be named Warspite. Because that ship actually did more than sink a single submarine!
  • 2 0
 The next model is going to be called the SlipKnot.
  • 2 0
 @Patsplit: Slipnought!
  • 3 0
 Should have mine next month, can't wait!
  • 3 2
 Big travel, heavy and long. Plus not very poppy?
Not saying it’s not an awesome frame - I’m sure it is. But sounds like a steep/fast park bike.
  • 2 0
 There's a lot of chunky, gnarly trails where I ride in Southern California that I could see this as the perfect bike for. Check out the review from Beta MTB (formerly Bike Mag). They give a more in depth review (than this first look) and paint the bike in a more versatile picture.
  • 1 0
 I don't consider 34lbs to be heavy myself....plus I bet you could dial in a poppier suspension setup.

Just being optimistic Razz
  • 1 0
 Sexy machine! I was eagerly anticipating a longer travel product than this. Maybe the next model? Or maybe I'll have to start Verboten Bikes.
  • 2 3
 @mikekazimer I found it interesting that on this bike size large the SA is a clean 76 degrees and you made no mention of it being too slack. On the contrary, on your first ride for the Evil Wreckoning you complained that it wasn't steep enough despite being the same as the Dreadnought. The Wreckoning is a smaller (shorter wheelbase, top tube length, reach, etc.) bike despite having more travel. Do you think this factored into the difference in your perception of your feel on the bike?
  • 23 1
 You're overlooking the actual seat tube angle - it measures 68-degrees on the Wreckoning, and 76-degrees on the Dreadnought. That's where the difference lies; the steeper angle on the Dreadnought put me in a better position for seated climbing compared to the Evil. Honestly, I wouldn't have complained if it was even a little steeper, but it didn't take me long to get accustomed to the fit.

There's also the difference in chainstay lengths between the two bikes - 432mm on the Evil vs 450mm on the Dreadnought, which also affects where your weight will end up in relation to the rear axle.
  • 3 0
 The actual seat tube angle on the Wreckoning is quite a bit different than the this bike though. I can’t remember off the top of my head what the wreckoning’s was but visually it looks quite a bit slacker. The steep actual seat tube angle on this bike probably plays into Mike’s opinion
  • 4 1
 @mikekazimer: you mean you don't like doing wheelies on all your climbs? there's some educatin' to be done to get people to understand actual vs virtual STAs.
  • 2 0
 @shredddr: i am not sure if this bike is the same but my highlander has a straight seat post from BB so the effective and actual are the same. it measures 76 but i slide my saddle forward (sized up from M to L on this purchase) and effective gets up to about 78, which feels plenty steep. can confirm my old insurgent had a very slack effective seat tube angle, especially in the XLOW setting with a 170mm fork.
  • 3 0
 Compare the actual seat angle of the wreckoning. For tall riders, the kink in the seat tube on the wreckoning makes it much slacker than the stated “effective seat angle”
  • 2 0
 @shredddr: Evil's SA's can be an issue for riders over 5'10". They are better than they used to be, but still may be an issue for some galoots. That said, I am on my second Evil and at 5'7" it has never been a problem. My original Wreckoning climbed fine and the new one is even better. Conversely, bikes I've ridden with SA's above 76 degrees all felt strange. They are akin to the way early 29er's felt where you felt like you were up on a bar stool after being over-served.
  • 1 0
 @hellbelly: haha what's wrong with being overserved!? that's a great analogy. but yeah, I think it's really only an issue for the tall, or those with disproportionately long legs... *puts hand up
  • 1 0
 @shredddr: Absolutely nada with being overserved, Cheers! Salud!, Goenbae!, L'Chaim! However, I of vertical challenged fire hydrant proportions, prefer to stay low to the ground. The bar stool analogy was pretty common in describing the geometry of 29er's of yore and also one of the reasons I hated them back in the day. The 29er that changed it all for me was the Kona Honzo back in '12. It was the first one I ever rode that was about getting rad versus being a twitchy XC mess. Now I won't ride anything but a 29er. Geometry remains critical and while most companies have figured it out there are still some that are hinky. Case in point: The trend with long travel 29er's over the last half dozen years is to have sprawling wheelbases. I don't care for that as I prefer a big bike that is more nimble/can change direction more rapidly versus feeling like a tugboat coming about. The Wreckoning (in both it's original version and current one) maintains a smaller wheelbase than the majority of comparable bikes. It allows a big bike to handle like a small bike which I favor.
  • 1 0
 @twonsarelli: unrelated but how do you like the highlander?
  • 2 0
 @bigbrett: i haven't had the opportunity to ride it on my usual trails, as they're covered in snow. that being said, i've put about 5 hours on it on some other trails and so far it has been good. i am nowhere near having my suspension pressures/adjustments dialed but on the whole, it is performing flawlessly. it isn't quite as rapid on the pedals as my SB5.5 and it weighs about 2lbs more, but i am pleased with how quiet it is and how planted it feels.
  • 1 0
 To be followed up by a DH bike called Forbidden "Orion". When a dreadnought was not big enough. I give you the "super dreadnought" class.
  • 2 0
 Frame only with expensive shocks because fox and Shimano have absolutely no parts. Yay! 2021 bike shortage in full force.
  • 2 0
 A band named Dreadnought would probably play really sick Stoner Rock or Doom Metal
  • 1 0
 not far off - prog/doom? www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw7uvj7Tfto
  • 1 0
 Are the front center lengths taken at sag? I thought it was calculated through wheelbase - chain stays but the measurements listed are too short.
  • 1 0
 If so they should list the sag
  • 2 0
 How painful would it be to receive this bike and only then realize there are no parts available to build it up.
  • 2 0
 Doesn't 337 sound low for BB Height? Everything else sounds great. Could use some more stack height but i'll manage
  • 2 0
 Propain Spindrift 29: 340
Yeti SB150 29er: 347
Guerilla Gravity Gnarvana 29: 349
Trek Remedy 29: 349 (low) 354 (high)
Specialized S-Works Enduro 29: 354

A tad low by today's standards; folks will want to size crank length shorter for sure.
And with >30% sag as-tested I am surprised the author didn't mention pedal strikes.
  • 1 0
 @chrod: I was comparing it to the new Wreckoning. Low =355 xlow =346. I dropped my last year model wreckoning into xlow but I got too many strikes even with 170mm cranks. Maybe the high pivot acts different? Probably needs 165mm cranks for sure.
  • 1 0
 Pretty sweet bike but I won't be able to buy one, I'm getting a complete bike for less than frame plus premium shock! Should have been a dentist...........and not had kids!
  • 2 0
 Try not to get aroused challenge
  • 1 1
 Mike how tall are you?
I’m 1.75m and coming from a Geometron. The Large sizing seems right for myself, but the seat tube length is then too long.
  • 2 0
 I'm 5'11" (180cm).
  • 3 0
 Looks like a...Druid
  • 1 0
 Me: "isn't a dreadnought a boat?????"
Kazimer: "here is the definition of a dreadnought and pictures!"
  • 1 0
 ....and folks gonna still bitch at Guerilla Gravity for their bikes naming....
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer How does the longer CS length feel? Can you tell they’re nearly 480mm around full travel?
  • 2 0
 Is it just me or are hi-pivots low ke the dopest bikes out there.
  • 3 1
 This bike makes me excited for the Norco Range!
  • 1 0
 Crazy how that geo was making headlines when the last gen EVO came out. 63.5! thats MADNESS
  • 1 1
 Forbidden Druid and Shaman, not that Dreadnaught is a bad name, but Shaman would have been a more fitting choice imo. Or is that a cultural appropriation?
  • 1 0
 I see they still haven’t fixed the idler wear issue....looks like the same garbage one as the Druid???
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer Hi Kaz, any word on the Geometron review? Are you guys still hoping/planning on one? Thanks.
  • 1 0
 Looks sick. Where can we get a Ziggy link?
  • 1 0
 You can get one on the forbidden website under "Parts -> Small Parts" or on the Ziggy Link tab. Unfortunately looks like its currently out of stock.
  • 1 0
 @Badbassist: lol. Yea I guess, where are they in stock is the question.
  • 3 2
 does the chain cut through the seat stay in the harder gears?
  • 3 0
 On my Druid, yes. They designed the protector as a wear part and it only rubs in the smallest gear on my 11-50t / 30t XX1 set up. Since you're most definitely on a downhill section in that gear, it's totally unnoticeable from a friction/resistance standpoint.
  • 1 0
 "Has room for a motor inside the front triangle"
  • 1 0
 You can store stuff inside it
  • 1 0
 for some reason, the Transformers theme song just played in my head
  • 1 0
 More Doom! Looks great, well done Forbidden
  • 1 2
 but the wait isn't over. I still couldn't get a medium Druid if I wanted to. It is a rad bike and good to see some light at the end of the tunnel.
  • 9 0
 Fanatik has MD Druids in stock.. Like right now. You can even choose your color.
  • 2 2
 Ughhh can't wait for all the gunk stuck in that rear pivot in front of the tyre. Cugga clug clug
  • 2 0
 @cheezario the integrated rear fender looks like it would solve most of that issue
  • 1 2
 this is one beautiful bike. I just wish they had a complete with a build spec that's a little less top of the line to make it a bit more affordable.
  • 1 0
 SLX build available as soon as Shimano can ship.
  • 2 0
 Dreadnart
  • 1 0
 Are WeAreOne making this frame?
  • 1 0
 "You're beautiful, it's true"
J.Blunt
  • 1 0
 Propper jacket for dreanought
  • 1 0
 It looks like adjusting the rebound on that x2 must be a chore
  • 1 0
 What is the frame weight ?
  • 1 0
 Due to the rearward axle path, is this equivalent to a 170 frame?
  • 1 0
 Err, what DOES an idler do anyway?
  • 1 0
 I think it should be named the DreadDonought
  • 1 1
 I’ll take 2 tickets to the Dreadnought gun show ????????
  • 2 1
 nice
  • 1 0
 Oh my....
  • 1 0
 Finaly!!!
  • 1 0
 Best name ever!
  • 4 7
 Quit making new bikes if they are never going to be available!!!! As a matter of fact, quit making ALL bikes for about a year so we can have access to spare parts! I am so tired of this Pandemic bull$hit.
  • 3 1
 All I want is a Commencal meta ht, and I think it will arrive sometime next year...maybe
  • 2 0
 You can still get some bikes especially smaller brands just gotta put in a little effort. It sucks I know but just call or email bike shops with the brands you want. I got the new evil offering after website said completely sold out
  • 1 0
 @Supergirl56: great choice though when it does arrive. tup
  • 2 0
 @MillerReid: I've been looking for a nice 24" for my son and even the smaller brands are sold out and the bike shops that do sell them are not allowed to ship the bike. So even when I do find the only one in the U.S. the shop won't ship it and I am trying to find a family member that is even remotely close enough to go get it for me.
I know I'm ranting! Sorry, we are all feeling the impact of this.
I love the new YT 24" but that's such a joke. I don't think I've ever seen their site say they had anything in stock, even before 2020!

I hope you get your bike soon!
  • 1 0
 @glisseur deposit time
  • 1 2
 Numbers look a little bit like a Spec Enduro. Wondering if it rides and climb like the Enduro
  • 1 0
 I’m wondering that too. Guess I’ll get downvoted as well.
  • 1 0
 Sick jacket dude
  • 1 1
 Alright Cascade, go to town!
  • 1 0
 Very nice
  • 1 2
 how much do you guys believe this beasts weighs? No mention on weight anywhere I'm assuming its heavy, reason why.
  • 2 0
 @madridphi says 34 lbs for the size L right at the opening specs...
  • 1 0
 @Gmang: Can't complain. My Canfield Toir size L with a coil and dh parts weighs 37.5 lbs for a 140mm trail bike.
  • 1 1
 Still waiting for the SlipKnot model with more travel.
  • 1 0
 Trust Performance Shout?
  • 1 2
 Can’t even do a real review bc druid needs the bike back ASAP! Bad look Druid...the struggle is real!
  • 1 0
 Funny looking guitar.
  • 4 5
 Looks like a norco or is it looks like a forbidden?
  • 2 4
 All frames sold out lmao and there are 4 dealers for all of Canada, all in BC. Wack Bike looks sick though!
  • 4 0
 check in with blacks cycle on the island
  • 2 0
 Pretty sure Inside line in Calgary will have them...
  • 1 0
 All the dealers in BC are in Comox Valley ????
  • 5 0
 Hey @swenzowski We actually have 10 dealers in Canada, they are all listed on our dealer finder here: www.forbiddenbike.com/pages/find-a-dealer . If you have any issues feel free to reach out to contact@forbiddenbike.com and we'll be happy to assist you.
  • 4 0
 @ForbiddenBike: ah yep, I was looking at the dealer locator but it only showed 4 in the list. Didn't see a scroll bar so figured that was it. Guess I don't know how to use a webpage lol. Good on you for chilling in the comments.
  • 2 0
 @swenzowski i What size do you want? We have one XL left, and more coming early summer...
  • 4 5
 The only 29er I would even think about considering
  • 1 2
 Because it's not..and it's overpriced for everyone.
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