First Ride: Giant's 2020 Reign E+ Wants to Go Big

Aug 12, 2019
by Ralf Hauser  


More travel, more fun: Giant is extending its 2020 E-bike range with the new Reign E+ enduro models. 170mm of travel up front and 160mm in the rear, coupled with the Giant SyncDrive Pro motor powered by Yamaha and 27.5+ wheels are setting the course for tackling gnarly trails, big jumps and massive drops with an electric motor underneath.

Based on Giant’s proprietary Maestro suspension system, a virtual linkage design, the ALUXX SL aluminum frame has been inspired by its non-motorized brother, the Reign. During its two-year development process, riders like Giant Factory Off-Road team rider Josh Carlson gave some vital input, to turn the e-bike version of the 2020 Reign into what it is today.


Reign E+ 0 Pro Details

• Intended use: enduro
• Wheel size: 27.5"
• Rear wheel travel: 160mm
• ALUXX SL aluminum frame
• 64.5° head angle
• 469.5mm chainstays
• Weight ( w/o pedals): 24.2kg
• 12 x 148mm rear spacing
• Sizes: S-XL
• Price: €7.499
• Colors: Chameleon green/gold
www.giant-bicycles.com


Giant Reign E

Electronics

When it comes to the electronic part of the bike, Giant’s Reign E+ is housing an updated SyncDrive Pro motor powered by Yamaha with 80 Nm of power output, improved torque and a support ratio of 360 percent, being able to add 360 percent of pedalling power to your input.
A new cover for the engine keeps the dirt out and in combination with the rubber protector, which is connected to the battery, the system shouldn't be bothered by adverse weather conditions.

Giant Reign E
A rubber protector is attached to the battery and extends over the motor cover, to seal the gap between battery and engine.
Giant Reign E
Sensor cable and brake cable are routed through the lower suspension link.

Giant’s handlebar-mounted RideControl ONE unit is now featuring ANT+ compatibility. Many models like Garmin can show the battery level, some even information like remaining range. Also, it lets you connect to the Giant e-bike app on your smartphone easily for additional information such as navigation or health and fitness functionalities.

Small LEDs show what mode is being used and remaining battery level (both five steps each). Since the RideControl ONE unit is angled toward the thumb for easier accessibility, the lights are angled upwards for better visibility when sitting in the saddle.

Giant Reign E
The RideControl ONE unit now comes with ANT+ compatibility.
Giant Reign E
No display, but LEDs on the handlebar unit deliver the most important info.

The motor now also features six sensors (four before), enabling the Smart Assist technology that calculates the amount of torque, pedaling cadence, slope and speed while riding. Based on those calculations, it determines the amount of power needed to provide a smooth, natural riding experience. The motor engages instantly when power is applied to the pedals.

Next to the five levels of support modes, this new selectable Smart Assist mode automatically regulates the power according to the need and helps to improve battery range. Basically, the idea is to give you the option to run that mode all day long, without having to give mode-selection a second thought. To activate the Smart Assist mode, you have to cycle into the opposite direction of the regular modes via the thumb buttons on the RideControl unit, past the off mode.

A higher cadence support now reaches all the way up to 170 rpm, meaning that it tapers off much later than the old version, which lost power around 80 to 90 rpm. With full power up to 130 rpm, the mechanical range is now much bigger for full support. Also, the motor noise could be reduced considerably. Official numbers are communicated at a reduction of roughly 15%, although it’s hard to put into percentage numbers and it can easily be argued that it comes down to much more than that.

While the motor hardware is delivered by Yamaha, Giant is using their own design for batteries, as well as their own Giant app and motor settings. A new lock system for the battery is using a T25 torx bolt to lock or unlock a secondary latch mechanism that secures or releases the battery. Space has been added for connectors and cables, with an optimized cable routing for derailleur and the speed sensor (tucked away in dropout) through the lower link of the suspension, eliminating previously used zip ties.

Giant Reign E
Accessible through the side of the frame is a T25 bolt to unlock the latching mechanism.
Giant Reign E
The latch on the underside of the downtube can release the battery.

Known from other Giant models is the EnergyPak Smart 500 battery, which ensures that by meeting the EN5064 quality standard they provide a higher safety standard compared to many other models, resulting in a safer battery setup. The battery's aluminum casing and honeycomb structure inside the bike's aluminum frame improve heat management and therefore elongate the time a battery can deliver optimum power, especially in heat. The EnergyPak 6A Fast Charger can charge the battery to 80 percent in just 60 minutes.

Brand new is the EnergyPak Plus 250 range extender. A small 250Wh external battery with same power output as its in tube-colleague can be attached to a rail that mounts in the bottle cage area (obviously, you can’t mount both at the same time) and connects to the regular charging port on the side of the bike. What you basically get is a 750Wh battery in the end, by adding an extra 2.5kg of weight from the range extender.

A USB-C charging port on the range extender can be useful on longer trips for filling up some electronic toys. The range extender itself can be charged by the regular charger by attaching an adapter (female to female) to the connection cable.


Giant Reign E
The EnergyPak Plus 250Wh range extender gives you a total of 750Wh of battery capacity.
Giant Reign E
The rail for the extender can be mounted on the extra mounts on the outsides of the bottle cage mounts.

Giant Reign E
A magnetic and sealing cap is protecting the charging port.
Giant Reign E
The charging port also acts as the connection point for the 250Wh range extender battery.


Frame Details

Built from ALUXX SL aluminum tubing, the frame is full of details to integrate the engine as cleanly as possible. That starts with situating the Maestro suspension system around the engine without hampering its function (pedaling efficiency, full-time active suspension movement and brake independence) and ends with a clean cable routing throughout the entire frame.

Running on 27.5" wheels, the E+ range has been equipped with 2.6" wide tires that provide more steering precision than their bigger plus-sized brothers.

As mentioned before, there's room for a water bottle inside the main triangle, but only if you don't consider running the range extender battery.

While weight has not been a major design factor for the Reign E+, the total weight for the Reign E+ 0 comes to a solid 24.2kg, especially considering its intended big hit usability.

Giant Reign E
160mm of rear wheel travel, courtesy of the Maestro suspension system.
Giant Reign E
A trunnion mount shock allows for a compact linkage configuration.

Giant Reign E
In case you're not using a cable-less derailleur, cables are routed neatly inside the frame wherever possible.
Giant Reign E
A small MRP chainguide keeps the chain in check.

Giant has been working closely with Fox on setting up the suspension, creating a full custom tune for the e-Reign. During their tests they realized that the Reign E+ worked best with an air shock configuration, even though their first instinct was to try and equip the bike with a coil shock.

The leverage ratio starts out at about 3:1 for higher sensitivity, and drops considerably down to 2.38:1 for plenty of bottom out resistance. With a shock stroke of 62.5mm, the average leverage ratio comes to a low 2.56:1.

Giant Reign E

Geometry

There are four sizes (S, M, L, XL) to choose from, with a reach ranging from 430mm to 497mm.

A rather slack 64.5-degree head angle out front and a steep 76 degree seat angle (luckily, a big departure from the regular Reign's incredibly slack angle) are two main pillars of the design and play along nicely with a long wheelbase, 469.5mm chainstays, low bottom bracket height and solid reach. In order to be able to run the bottom bracket as low as possible, S and M size models come with 160mm crank arms, L and XL with 165mm versions.

It would generally be nice if seat tube lengths were a bit shorter, to allow for longer dropper posts along the entire spectrum and give smaller riders more choice in stepping up a frame size if they wish to do so. Overall, the geometry is oriented along the lines of modern standards, but isn’t getting too crazy with any of the values.


Giant Reign E

Specifications

Three models of the Reign E+ are available, with 0 representing the top build, followed by 1 and then 2. All models utilize the same battery and motor.

We had a chance to test the Reign E+ 0 Pro, which is decked out with Giant’s E-TRX carbon wheels (in-house built, 32 mm inside rim width, DT Swiss internals inside the hubs), SRAM’s electronic X01 AXS drivetrain and Code R disc brakes, for a price of €7.499.

The Reign E+ 1 Pro model is equipped with Shimano's new XT 12-speed drivetrain including 4-piston brakes and Giant's E-TR1 Premium Alloy 27.5" E-bike optimized wheelset. A Fox 36 Float Performance fork and X2 Performance rear shock take over suspension duties at a retail price of €5.499.

No change in terms of travel or frame build, the Reign E+ 2 Pro is available for €4.799 and features a Fox 36 Rhythm fork and DPX2 Performance rear shock. NX Eagle is responsible for shifting performance, with SRAM's Guide RE brakes slowing the bike down.

Helpful detail: all models come with tire plugs installed inside Giant’s 800 mm wide handlebar, to always be available in case of a puncture too big to be sealed by tubeless tire sealant.

Giant Reign E
Reign E+ 0 Pro

Giant Reign E
Reign E+ 1 Pro.
Giant Reign E
Reign E+ 2 Pro.





With Giant’s latest update of the SyncDrive motor, it has closed the gap in some areas to its biggest competitors. Noise level is down considerably and easily less than the claimed 15 percent, having ridden next to an older model and perceived the difference. And with full power being delivered up to a cadence of 130 rpm, you can pedal your little heart out without the engine support cutting out early.

It’s really the Smart Assist mode though, that is a very valuable addition to Giant’s package. It took the engineers a long time to figure out a good mix of all the various inputs, but I’d say that they’ve succeeded in finding an adapting setting that should cater to most riders’ preferences, without having to constantly change between power modes manually. Only a direct comparison to other manufacturer’s comparable modes can offer a full verdict of how effective the new setting is, but it’s safe to say that most of the time you could run that mode all day long without feeling underpowered or get the idea that the bike would misinterpret the power output you need for various situations, including technical finessing through rough sections up and down the hill.

Power delivery felt instantaneous and natural in any situation, and I didn't need to to put much effort into thinking about what mode would work best for the situation. In Smart Assist mode, power output is still pretty high when needed, although the maximum power delivery feels closer to level four than the maximum level five.

The only reason I found myself wanting to switch from Smart Assist into the highest support mode was when encountering extremely steep ascents or running into trial-like obstacles where I wanted to achieve a maximum push from the bike. Unfortunately, in its current state, it takes a while to cycle from Smart Assist all the way into full power mode and even cuts out the engine for a second, since you have to move past the off-setting. However, the engineers are already aware that some riders might want to switch quickly from one to the other - if for example a very steep incline would build up right after a tight corner - and are already considering some options for a quick switch feature, that might be implemented in a future firmware update.

The small LEDs on the RideControl unit are sometimes a bit harder to see in the bright sunlight. In terms of running mode that’s not a big deal if you should end up mostly using the Smart Assist mode anyway. Reading the battery level might feel like more of a necessity though, and if no trees or any other form of green shrubbery can provide shade, cupping the hand over the display will solve the issue if dire need should really arise and the lighting should really not end up being enough. Other than that, it would generally be nice to see 10% steps to display the battery charging level, but most manufacturers don’t deliver that feature either.

Either way, Smart Assist seems to be doing a really fine job of getting a decent amount of range out of the 500Wh battery.

Having said that, I can’t deliver any numbers at this point of what distance you can really cover, or cover in comparison to any of the other power modes or even other manufacturers. A capacity of 500Wh is what it is after all. Also, we didn’t have any chance to test the 250Wh range extender. Without wanting to play the guessing game, adding another 2.5kg to the center of the frame triangle is probably going to affect the bike’s handling somewhat.

Taking the battery out of the frame turned out to be a simple task. Just unbolt the T25 bolt located at the downtube upper side, release the latch on the underside and pull the battery out of the frame.


Giant Reign E


In terms of handling, there’s no real need to get used to the new Reign E+: just open up the brakes and let the bike roll and rip. With its intuitive and stable geometry, it’s easy to point the bike and let the suspension do its thing.

Geometry is a fickle beast, and each value has to play along with each other to form a well-behaving package. There’s not really a single value on the Reign E+ that stands out negatively, with a low bottom bracket and longer chainstays that center the rider better with generally longer front-centers. Thanks in part to the short crank arms, I never had any issues with unwanted ground contact, although I can’t say that I ever really have any problems with that.

At a height of 168cm, I felt right at home on the size M model, appreciating the higher stability of longer bikes lately, and having been enabled to ride them at all, thanks to steeper seat angles, shorter stems and shorter seat tubes (although Giant’s measurements are still on the more conservative side, in that last area, and it wouldn't hurt to cut a few centimeters throughout the range to allow for longer dropper posts, especially for smaller riders).

I didn’t have to think much about the bike’s suspension, it just does its job, even with a wide array of obstacles thrown at it. Sensitive over smaller chatter, with ample mid-support and a nice amount of progression to keep from bottoming out unnecessarily. The Fox X2’s stock setup comes with one volume spacer pre-installed, leaving plenty of room to add more progression to the rear end, if required.

Pushing the bike into corners came pretty easily, although I felt the need to drop the bar somewhat, to keep the front end from washing out on loose gravel. I ended up lowering the stem as low as possible, which added a lot of pressure to the front wheel, but I might have overdone it a bit for some of the ridiculously steep and loose sections we encountered on our ride. One spacer underneath the stem would have probably ended up being my sweetspot, if there would have been more time for tinkering around.

Kudos on the choice of tires. Maxxis Minion DHF in the front and DHR II in the rear, both in 2.6” width, is a smart choice to begin with, using an EXO+ casing at the front and DoubleDown casing at the rear makes a hell of a lot of sense for an e-bike of this genre.


Giant Reign E

Weight might not have been a deciding design aspect, and just over 24 kilos (about 24.6kg with flats) is quite all right for a bike of this class, but nevertheless, with carbon wheels and AXS shifting, there’s not much potential for weight savings on the top model, except if you want to downsize the tires, which isn’t recommendable.

Just like any e-bike beyond a certain weight range, the Reing E+ does push into corners somewhat, although the nice overall balance of the bike does its best to limit that sensation. Talking about balance, the Reign E+ feels quite at home in the air and although we didn’t encounter any considerable drops during our test ride, I’m pretty certain that it would handle those equally well.

It’s nice to see a 220mm rotor size out front with OEM spec, although to be honest, I would have expected an even higher boost to the braking performance. Nevertheless, I wouldn’t have wanted to miss the extra size on some of the gnarlier trails.

Overall, the new long-travel addition to Giant’s lineup is most likely going to appeal to riders who want to experience the roughest trails without compromise. Maybe the Reign E+ will even speak to people looking for a well balanced comfortable ride without ever feeling the need to take it into super technical terrain - it never made much sense to me why so many e-bikes out there were skimping on travel to begin with. An excellent suspension setup and features like the new Smart Assist mode should be a considerable benefit to your ride, no matter what.







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240 Comments

  • 163 3
 It looks pregnant.
  • 66 4
 Soon is will give birth to a Trance Jr.
  • 236 21
 So do the people who ride them
  • 5 31
flag mokydot (Aug 12, 2019 at 1:59) (Below Threshold)
 and Dentist.
  • 11 9
 Looks bad and log over clearance compromised big time. fail.
  • 4 6
 beat me to it
  • 25 4
 i was thinking a full diaper.
  • 19 24
flag pinnityafairy (Aug 12, 2019 at 6:45) (Below Threshold)
 Electric mopeds
  • 25 8
 @DDoc: The majority of owners will never attempt such a feat as riding over a log... is it even possible?
  • 18 11
 I'll stick with my yz 450
  • 35 14
 @jorgeposada: except it weighs 5 times as much, has much more power and virtually every single person on this site would hate you if you rode it on bike trail. If you rode a trail 5 times the wear would be comparable with 5000 Ebikes
  • 6 5
 Looks good to me ... Gotta out that battery and motor somewhere. I like the range extentor in theory but that's another 5.5 lbs? We just need better/ smaller batteries. the price is too steep! wheres the budget model?
  • 11 7
 @WAKIdesigns: Your very good at stating the obvious.
  • 2 0
 true
  • 3 6
 @WAKIdesigns: @WAKIdesigns: No, I only ride my ebike on my driveway. I don't want to wear out my suspension.
  • 3 0
 I was thinking it looked more like a fupa when I first saw it... but that works too.
  • 1 0
 Won't have to check the BB on that thing Razz
  • 2 0
 I was just coming here to say it looks about 8 months along.... Damn you.
  • 3 3
 Pretty obese at 53.3lbs.
  • 10 14
flag NelsonSunshine (Aug 12, 2019 at 20:41) (Below Threshold)
 What an absolutely ugly oldman ballsack horrendous POS moped. Gawd damn. I hope to never see this thing in person. My gourd that is awful sauce
  • 81 3
 Mountain bikers see guys shuttling up a hill.. "looks like those guys are having fun today"
Mountain Bikers see guys riding ebikes up the same hill.. "Look at those Fat Lazy Fu#ks cheating!"

Mountain bikers see a chubby guy peddling a mountain bike... "Good for him getting out here!"
Mountain bikers see a chubby guy peddling an ebike.. "Look at that FAT FU#K, should have stayed on the couch!"

Mountain bikers see a guy riding his bike like an A-Hole.. "That guy is a jerk and needs a lesson on trail etiquette!"
Mountain bikers see a guy on an ebike riding like an A-Hole.. "See! Ebikes are destroying the fabric of our society!"
  • 10 1
 nailed it!
  • 6 0
 Upvoted! However, today took a shuttle up Mt Hough. On the way up we passes a couple, each riding the new Cannondale E rig. Everyone in the shuttle thought it was super cool. So the triggered folk that tend to comment here don’t seem to come out into the real world, in my experience anyway.
  • 3 1
 I'll ride that contraption straight up MT Everest.
  • 7 0
 Yup, if I showed up at the local shuttle spot with a ‘79 Tacoma with the exhaust cut off, leaking oil and antifreeze like crazy, and a flat bed with 8 bike rack welded on I’m a f*cking hero. Pedal an Ebike up the same shuttle road and I’m the anti-Christ.
  • 85 4
 I guess this is the bike you should save for a Reign-E day
  • 13 3
 these short circuit on that weather
  • 5 1
 better move to the desert then.
  • 8 3
 I wonder how the battery does when it's Reign-E out?
  • 3 1
 @BrianColes: take it to the beach and ride it in the surf
  • 7 1
 There will be no Glory.
  • 2 2
 I doesn't Stance a chance in that weather.
  • 3 0
 The 3 inches of ground clearance and 160mm of travel should make for some hilarious moments.
  • 1 0
 @jorgeposada: it's a good bash guard, isn't it?
  • 100 32
 Can I offer some non-hysterical criticism of this review?
Too much of the review is spent talking about the motor and battery, which are essentially only a component of the bike, and Yamaha systems are used by loads of other brands.

Quite a lot of the review is really difficult to understand the points being made, either because of bad grammar or just plain waffle. For example:
"I can’t remember the last time I ran a very basic suspension setup (Giant’s mechanics recommended a sag of about 25% for the rear shock), sped up the compression and rebound settings considerably from its stock setup because of my light weight and then never looked back, speaking for an excellent suspension tune for the Reign E+."

What on earth does any of that paragraph mean?

And what wheelsize is it? The review says it's 29er at the top, then later talks about the 27x2.6" tyres fitted.

So overall, the review itself leaves a lot to be desired.
6/10
  • 32 0
 metareview
  • 11 35
flag adventuresbycole (Aug 12, 2019 at 2:53) (Below Threshold)
 Would love some feedback on my article, good or bad would enjoy to hear your opinion Smile theloamwolf.com/2019/08/12/giant-launches-reign-e-release-first-ride
  • 9 0
 He did say 27.5 at the beginning but I agree the review is puffy with tech thrown in to make it seem like a true detailed analysis.
  • 29 0
 In Ralf's defense I don't think English is his first language and motor performance makes a big difference to how e-bikes ride. Having said that I agree that some of the sentences were a bit confusing, probably because the sentence structure was closer to German than English. Here is my guess at what that paragraph means:

"I can’t remember the last time I ran a very basic suspension setup"
He is saying that he normally tweaks suspension settings on his tests bikes quite a lot before getting them to feel good...

"(Giant’s mechanics recommended a sag of about 25% for the rear shock), sped up the compression and rebound settings considerably from its stock setup because of my light weight"
but in this instance he left sag at the recommended 25% and simply sped up rebound and compression from recommended settings as he is quite light...

" and then never looked back, speaking for an excellent suspension tune for the Reign E+."
After making these adjustments he didn't make anymore adjustments and the bike felt great, which makes him think that Giant have done a great job tuning the shock and suspension kinematics of the bike.

TL;DR: he thinks Giant did a good job on the suspension.
  • 17 29
flag pinnityafairy (Aug 12, 2019 at 7:02) (Below Threshold)
 @adventuresbycole: you're 25 years old and riding electric moped figure it out for yourself
  • 2 23
flag Laymo (Aug 12, 2019 at 7:38) (Below Threshold)
 @Tom-Ryde: That is surprising to me, because the suspension is the weak point of most Giant full suspension designs. He lost credibility with me when he described the suspension as supple. Specialized has fully active supple suspension. Giant has semi active suspension that does not respond as well as a fully active design. Giant needs to free up that solid rear triangle if they want fully active suspension.
  • 7 0
 @Tom-Ryde: This is why PB says WORDS: Ralf Hauser and not Written by: Ralf Hauser.
  • 5 6
 This...27.5 or 29? How difficult is it to get that consistent in the write up? CS length is ridiculous Giant.
  • 3 2
 @Tom-Ryde: yeah I agree that the motor makes a big difference to how an eBike rides, but only like how import a suspension fork is to a DH bike, and I wouldn't expect half of the entire review of a V10 for example to just talk about the fork
  • 7 4
 @Laymo: and Specialized bikes pedal like crap without a climb switch. Different designs for different riders preferences I suppose.
  • 3 1
 @DDoc: #mountainbikefictionrenaissance
  • 4 0
 Some of the other facts are a bit strange too though.

"...with 80 Nm of power output, improved torque..."

80 Nm is the torque and I still don't know how much the max power output is...
  • 4 6
 @yzedf: You just can’t pedal for crap.
  • 1 0
 @Laymo: Explain to me what you mean by semi active suspension.
  • 1 0
 @Tom-Ryde:????like reading about lyrics on genius.com
  • 1 0
 @yzedf: Fair enough, I prefer fully active suspension.
  • 1 0
 @Laymo: around here fully active has its advantages, we don’t have anything other than singletrack climbs.
  • 2 0
 @Laymo: Maestro suspension is fully active . Pedaling just doesn't affect it like some older FSR bikes.
  • 1 3
 @BeerGuzlinFool: doesn't seem or feel fully active with that solid rear triangle. I know it provides stiffness but it can't react to bumps like a Santa Cruz.
  • 3 1
 @Laymo: A Santa Cruz has a one piece triangle.

Neither a SA or Giant has the independent suspension (braking) of a good Horst linked bike,
  • 3 0
 @Laymo: I have to disagree with you on this. I find the suspension on the Giant to be very active and pedals far better than any FSR bike.
  • 1 2
 @BeerGuzlinFool: Not even close. Do you work at a shop that sells Giants or something like that?
  • 3 0
 @Laymo: No I have owned specialized and Giant bikes. I prefer Giant. Have you ever ridden a Giant that was properly set up for your weight..
  • 1 2
 @BeerGuzlinFool: yes, either bobbed on the climbs or wouldn't use full travel, couldn't find the right spot.
  • 28 2
 Eagle AXS and code r brakes? That's logical...
  • 4 0
 Clearly the product manager never rode an E MTB on any real terrain. One ride will tell you brakes and suspension are top of the list. GX is perfect for an E bike.
  • 2 0
 @tcmtnbikr: not even that, code r are almost as powerful as code rsc, the swing link adds more modulation and a bit of extra power for the same lever pull, but outright power is near as damn it the same. No, what I'm on about it the disparity between quality of components. All singing all dancing top of the pile AXS with the most basic brake with the code name on it. Surely conventional eagle and code rsc brakes would be a more balanced spec? It's obvious it's a highlight component on an otherwise unspectacular parts list, trying to hide the poor value. My mate bought a spesh enduro, x01 gearing and guide rs brakes, own brand bar and stem, alu cranks, the only highlights were the mech and shifter and the suspension units. Look at the whyte e bikes they've just released, well over a grand cheaper than this (£5750, this is around £7k) and that gets branded bar and stem, code rsc brakes, xo1 Eagle, the only thing it loses is the kaishima coating on the fork, which I'd take any day for that level of extra value.
  • 3 3
 @tcmtnbikr:
Most folks who buy cameras buy after mega pixels or zoom.
Most folks who buy sport sedans ask about horsepower and 1-100km/h
-//- who buy apartments ask about price per sqm...
-//- who buy bicycles of any kind ask about nr of gears and their quality. If they ask about suspension, they are interested in number of adjustments and whether it can be locked out.
  • 28 4
 Ebikes look just like my beer gut.
  • 48 2
 So you're saying you have a built-in range extender? Nice.
  • 11 20
flag pinnityafairy (Aug 12, 2019 at 7:03) (Below Threshold)
 @adventuresbycole: electric mopeds help to increase the size of the beer gut
  • 21 2
 @pinnityafairy: yeah motors make you fat. Like all those chubby supercross and enduro moto riders.........
  • 11 1
 @trialsracer: Most professionals and enthusiastic riders are in great shape, no argument there. But the guys I see piling out of their F-350s at local ORV areas are far from in shape. A lot of them don't even stand when riding.
  • 5 1
 @highfivenwhiteguy: This guys knows reality
  • 3 0
 @trialsracer: haha, they ride bicycles to stay fit, dog. moto is fun braaap
  • 12 0
 I like the range extender concept. I wish someone would build a bike with something like that as a principle battery. I'm only really interested in ebikes as enabling bike parks where ski lifts don't exist, so a very descent focused bike with a small battery you could swap out every couple of runs is ideal in my mind.
  • 12 0
 Engine??? Don’t ever call a motor an engine.
  • 27 19
 I was hating on e-bikes in general until I actually saw people riding them in BC last month and talked to the riders. In certain places where there is a long climb (e.g. 5 - 7km) followed by a descent, these bikes kind of make sense, especially if you're a local and want to get a lap in but don't have much time. Or you just want to do 2x, 3x, or 4x as many laps as you would on a normal bike. I can't see myself buying one for at least another 10+ years, but will now consider renting one.
  • 49 29
 This is just the classic "I'm a busy dad who works a lot and doesn't have time to stay fit or ride enough and my having fun is more important than any of the risks ebikes pose to trail access". This also has a negative impact on sensitive trails, i.e. tourists on ebikes lapping Dark Crystal 3-4x when they have the fitness to only climb to it once. I'm sure they are donating 3-4x to the trail association of course right?

FYI I am a busy working dad so I like to take down this BS argument.
  • 22 26
flag SlodownU (Aug 12, 2019 at 8:27) (Below Threshold)
 @gramboh: Agree 100%. First we make bikes easier to pedal with cassettes that have 1000% more range than before, and now e-bikes. Seriously, if you don't want to pedal that much, buy a DH bike and hit the park. No park nearby? Buy a road bike and get in shape so you can make the climbs. This sport was never supposed to be easy.

99.9% of the "biggest mouths" I meet donate 0.0 to the local trail association, or contribute in any way.
  • 12 17
flag nonk (Aug 12, 2019 at 8:53) (Below Threshold)
 @gramboh: Im with you there. I'm 56 and have 2 kids, a job, a freelance business, a second real estate business and coaching on the side.
I can't get the young people where I work to go do the fun downhills because they're frankly too lazy to ride uphill and really too lazy to learn to ride difficult downhills. Great, they have no business on the fun stuff because they don't want to earn it. They can take the lifts. Lifts are fun, and keep people in the areas that they pay lift fees to maintain.
And 5-7 km is long? No. it's not.
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 @gramboh: Well said! If these folks are too tired, busy and out of shape to pedal then they probably have even more excuses to not build or donate.

To be fair one of the people in the local community who regularly rides an ebike is a beast of a builder. He uses his ebike to haul tools and even to squeeze a lap or two in at the end of a day of building. Oh and he respects trail rules too, never rides trails where ebikes aren't allowed. If more people were like this person I doubt ebikes would be a problem, but the cancer of instant gratification, self-centered consumerism is strong in this country.
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 @nonk: “2 kids, a job, a freelance business, a second real estate business and coaching on the side”

A job in aerospace and a dual degree from Yale, if I remember correctly?
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 @highfivenwhiteguy: Sad fact.. it's not just this country. Europe has fully embraced the e bike.
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 @gramboh: your argument is assuming folks buy Ebikes to achieve the same with less effort, which may be the case in many instances. But there is a side branch of the e-bike rider spectrum that is skilled and strong. They use Ebikes to achieve that which is virtually impossible on a regular bike. Yes 3-4 runs in the time of one. By doing it they are learning faster and getting their body stronger.
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 @gramboh: you have know idea what youre talking about. Parroting an nsmb talking point about dark crystal like you own the trail and using that one instance to form an opinion. Who cares if someone just wants to get in a lap and concentrate more on the downhill, or put out a big effort and get more laps. None of your business. Stay in your own lane. As for them effecting trail access, youre just using a popular US criticism to support your ego based narrative(im amazing and climb everything give me ma cookie/waah). Of course you could smoke Nico, Fabian, Jerome, Julian up a hill, you are the amazing lemming parroting your bros talking points.The fact of the matter is advocacy depends on rider numbers lobbying. Emtb riders increase overall rider numbers by 11% on average. They have money and are more apt to spend it at a local shop than online. Local shops as well as rider numbers help trail advocacy.
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 @WAKIdesigns: wow, i agree with waki. Facts is facts. The haters are like trumptards. Theyll use any faux news to support their narrative. The truth be damned. Theyre super human dont cha know?
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 @won-sean-animal-chin: Exactly what "facts" are you speaking of?
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 @mi-bike: Fair response. But if you use the time/age excuse, your ebike will sit in the garage next to your unused mtb and your unused stair climber. Ill be looking for really nice unused/used ones in a few years.
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 @gramboh: this is so true!
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 @SlodownU: maybe someone will read my comment and waki's comment to you real slow
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flag SlodownU (Aug 12, 2019 at 12:24) (Below Threshold)
 @won-sean-animal-chin: English isn't Waki's first language, so he has an excuse, whats yours fuktard?
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 @WAKIdesigns: Not sure I buy this rationale. At a certain point, improving you skills also becomes a matter of fitness, being able to take repeated hits and make decisions when your heart rate is in the red. This is why most of the WC DH and Enduro guys and gals also crank out climbs and miles on the road bike. Shuffling to the top of your local ride on a e-bike isn’t going to make you more fit.
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 @SlodownU: whose the one that cant read. I have a problem with holy than thou people dictating what i should or should not be doing in the woods. Your arguement is the same as hikerds or horseback peopke vs mtbers in the past. Now your doing the same to people on emtb's. I dont see you railing against people shuttling or riding lifts like they did in the past. Go protest at a moto track and report back. Get a grip. The world isnt going to end. More ridership can be beneficial. Once again, stay in your own fkn lane
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flag ilovedust (Aug 12, 2019 at 13:07) (Below Threshold)
 Im going to defend myself from some of the bull being spouted here. Dad of two. Check. Very busy. Check. Other sports. Check. Etc etc. I have stopped riding in trail centre near me as its (and this is my experience so you get no say or come back) full of riders on ebikes cranking up the fire roads past you then holding you back on the single track. My 2pence is this. Most of my riding is techy and twisty. I dont want speed. My ride quality comes from smoothness and flow. If i need an ebike to put in extra ‘laps’, that sounds like crap trails. In which case you should just buy an actual motorbike and go greenlane dirt/fire roads. Ebikes are not my thing. If they are yours then fine but dont be a dick on them.
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 @McNubbin: you can still push just as hard. Its a choice. More tourque you put into it the moee tourque you get. They run off tourque sensors. Thats how they work.. Many enduro and dh racers use them for training. Its nice to have a recovery day using a higher mode and still get laps rather than spinning on the road. You can have a low intensity recovery ride and still improve your dh. Regular days if uou normaly push on your regular bike , like that as a lot of us do, you will push on the emtb. Youll just get more vert. For example, if you go for an hour on both your regular bike and your emtb and push how you normaly push you will actually have a higher heart rate on the emtb. The pushing on the climbs will be equal and your hsart rate will be a bit more on the wmtb on the downs because of the additional bike weight. Youll just get more vert
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 @McNubbin: Whenever I ride an e-bike I am ending up knackered. Hard not to pedal when you get more reward out of each stroke. Then when it comes to overall muscular endurance 3-4 runs with heavy bike put more stress on your body than 1 with a light one. If anything, you could argue that Ebike being heavy rides differently than a regular bike.
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 @won-sean-animal-chin: Stay in my lane? Your argument holds no water. You want more advocacy? How about engaging all those people riding "normal" bikes. How many new riders do you actually think e-bikes will bring in? Like someone sitting on their couch is now saying "finally, there's a way for me to get out into the woods and ride!" You counter your own points above by saying people use it for a "training tool". Last time I checked, that means existing riders just buying another bike (which has bee the intention of the manufacturers all along, not bringing in new riders.)
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 @ilovedust: preride,ride,freeride . Thats a great way to improve and feel at one with your bike and allow you to play more with the trail. Great trails i want to ride again. I like all trails.
Sucks you live in a congested area. I dont mind saying hi to people or just taking it down a couple km/h and play with the trail if people are in front. I guess shitty regular mtbers never block you?
Please stop saying get a motoX. MotoX would suck on most trails i like. Theres similarities but its a totally different sport. Alot of Dh/enduro pros would have dh bike, trail bike, ebike and moto and etc etc etc
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 @SlodownU: i know tons of active community people that have kids, play music, golf, camp, hike, ski a few days a year, volunteer for kinsman, go to the market, pick fruit, hike, etc but unless they gave a certain degree of specific fitness, cant be arsed to slave up a hill ocasionally for a short reward, or atleast initially. They mix it up so every once in a while , when they are at a higher fitness, they go for a ride again. Theyd be great additions. Just nice community members that wiuld be friendly anfd enjoy the trails, provably less tech trails to start.
Also back in the day i used to coax friends out on a ride promising a doob for the downhill. Then theyd go and theyd have fun. Eventually the bikes collected dust. Then full sus came along and i took them on shuttles. Then they weee keen. I called them "the one run wonders". That pissed them off(that dies illicit a redponse as youve noticed) so they did more laps. Then we had lifts, so they did more laps. Now they have enduro bikes and they indentify as mountainbikers. See where im going? I cant single anyone out by name. There are many. Why would you want to throw anyone under the bus to appease the anti mtb lobbyists? Seems a bit hipocritical to me
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 Probably just bumbed you don’t have an eMtb. So may haters... @gramboh:
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 @ilovedust: Honest appraisal sir and thank you for what you wrote. You helped remind me of the reason I ride, to be out in the woods practicing a skill and getting some exercise. I know for some people pounding out laps and maximizing miles is their top priority but for me I am just happy to be outside on two wheels. If I have to go slow and take breaks on climbs then cool, I get to stop and watch birds or enjoy a waterfall. Or maybe listen to the wind through the trees. And man, what a cool feeling it is to ride through a nasty technical section smoothly and swiftly that you have been working at for months or even years. Cheers!
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 @highfivenwhiteguy: wouldnt you gain skill and gain exercise and get outside on an emtb as well. Wouldnt additional laps and views be beneficial for both. No one is saying you have yo do anything. Safe to say we do it for the same reasons. Its freedom and exploring and a fun challenge. Hood fir tge heart snd soul. Tech climbs are still crazy fun just probably more steep and more tech. Amazing thing when youre on an emtb is you can also stop and look around at the view. An exploration tool is one of tge major benefits. Youd probably end up exploring little trails you never thought went anywhere or trying different offshoots that you never thought would amount to anything. In the process youd find different views znd hidden trails and add loops. Youd also use your car less, shuttle less, pack your saw and go get that nagging deadfall you didnt think you had time to clear off the trail after your ride or the next day. You could go ride with your dad, grandad, gma, wife ,kid more often and ride together with different assist levels and all get outside and stop and enjoy more views. I know, shocking!!!
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 @highfivenwhiteguy: In my view, the dude you are referring to is the ONE dude whos allowed in my book. Thanks to him we get to enjoy (without being too obvious) the furious stream and lion hill trials lol. He has more than earned it and should not be considered amongst the general eMTB population.

That said, I saw some other guy yesterday going up master clank on an eMTB. Whats the protocol there? Should people be saying something? does "motorized" mean no eMTBs bc the signs clearly say that? Whats the enforcement mechanism here?
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flag Gnarlcharger (Aug 12, 2019 at 15:51) (Below Threshold)
 @gramboh: couldn't agree more. Our local trails are seeing more and more wear and tear from increased volume of traffic from people on e-bikes but we sure haven't seen an uptick in those same people volunteering for trail days!
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 @Gnarlcharger: conjecture. No supporting evidence. Us vs them mentality. My right to be in the woods trumps theirs arguement. Join the sierra club dood, thatll fix'm. I heard they all wear jeans, affliction t's and no helmets. Theyre bringing drugs, theyre rapists annnd some of them are good people....i guess.
What would happen if you established a friendly relationship with some and invired them to trail days? Amazing how we can form opinions of peeps then get to know them only to discover we have similar interests and goals. If theyre newbs, i imagineat some point theyll take ownership in the trails , as we have over time, and pitch in. Its not rocket biology just human nature
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 @won-sean-animal-chin: You just spouted off so many things not supported by evidence I thought I was reading a transcript of a GOP debate. Please try and stay away from "whataboutisms". You know, where you counter any point by stating "what about....?". People on both sides of the debate can always come up with a scenario that seems to support their point.

To your points it is true that someone COULD do those things with an ebike but they can also do them with a mountain bike and more effort. Making something easier doesn't always mean that people will do it, that is why I do not accept your argument. Risking trail access and adding to the already out of control consumerism in the world is not worth making mountain biking easier on the off chance someone might use it for good.
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 @Gnarlcharger: There was an independent study of trail damage by ebikes vs regular. No difference. Should we ban racers who can ride 10x more trail than us? Do they donate?

b.3cdn.net/bikes/c3fe8a28f1a0f32317_g3m6bdt7g.pdf
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 @highfivenwhiteguy: haa talk about whataboutism. Consumerism ha. You so pure. You should be a monk. I did supply fact harnered from urp. 11% growth in bike sales. Increased sales at the lbs/fact. Youre avoiding the human nature element to my arguement. Why? People will indeed be more inclined to start and/or go get that deadfall if its easier. Nowhere in my arguement did i say that nobody would with more effort. Human nature would dictate that thered be a better chance of that deadfall being removed if it was easier to get at/again fact. Im dealing with facts from europe, japan, aus and new zealand. You- conjecture. Doomsday scenerio. All to support you and your types ownership of the forest despite limited conflict. Theyll always be conflict in life but i just dont see an end of the world scenerio. Reminds me of the introduction of snowboards
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 @slayerdegnar: To be fair, this study measured trail damage for 50 runs of an mtb, an e-mtb and a moto. And found that trail damage was similar for the mtb and the e-mtb. What it doesn't seem to consider is that the average e-mtb rider will probably do 3 times as many laps as an mtb rider on an average ride and so you would assume that per ride, the trail damage would be triple.
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 @mcgetskinny: or you could do 6 shuttles or 10 lift laps. Ban everything except penny farthings. Its the only logical solution
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 @won-sean-animal-chin: I think you'll find that arguing on the internet is everyone's lane.
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 @dawnchairy: how cute. Gramboh's bro rolls in to wipe away his tears. He has no problem telling the op what he should or shouldnt be doing until hes put to task and then crickets. Noy sure who made him the authority, oh right van/nsmb mustve. All 8 are in agreement and hes designated himself king sh&t and has to set the op straight. Pound sand
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 @WAKIdesigns: Is that supposed to a good thing? Bikes twice as heavy doing twice as many laps cannot be good for trail wear. These are not downhill parks where people are paid to maintain the dirt.
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 @rowanlewis: They dont weigh twice as much and your not doing twice as much vert. 50% more on both accounts, if even. The difference in trail wear isnt even noticeable. Feels exactly like an mtb. Exactly. A few pounds more than someones dh bike and theyll do less laps than someone shuttling those non bike park trails or 15lbs more than an enduro bike and the amount of vert would be somewhere inbetween a pedal day and a shuttle day. Your arguement gets discredited when you make unfounded claims with padded numbers to support your narrative. If you dont know or havent tried one you should ask rather than make bogus claims
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 @won-sean-animal-chin: The bike in this review weighs 53lbs. That is nowhere close to even the heaviest dh rigs, let alone your average mountain bike. It "feeling exactly like a mtb" does not change the fact that it weighs 23 pounds more than my alloy enduro bike. To say that the added weight won't have an effect on trail wear is a straight up lie, and I think you know this.

You're right that shuttling is bad for trails. I frequent places that allow it, and ones that don't. The ones that do are usually quite eroded, while the ones that don't are silky smooth. I'd personally like for them to stay silkly smooth, but if everyone rides their e-bike like Waki, and more people start buying them, I don't see that happening. Much higher weight, combined with more laps can only be a bad thing for trails, and the mtb community as a whole.
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 @rowanlewis: Many eebs arr under 50lbs. My yt decoy is 48, same as a commencal metapower. Aluminium yt tues is over 43lbs. Probably one the hottest seller is a spesh turbo levo and its under 45lbs, a couple of those sre 42lbs. You have to take the average.Are you going to go around chasing peoplr on old giant glory's snd chastise them on the merits of light weight bikes? If youre going to skid down a trail youre gokng to do a bit more damsge. Miniscule diference. More laps more fun, more exercise. Shuttling is great too. The trails arent going to explode. Youre arguement is disingenuous . I rolled dlwn a few tfails today. Zero skids zero damage. . I was one of very few pedalling. The overwhelming majority were shuttling and i say hood on them. Where do you draw the line? Your splitting hairs trying to find a difference to support your narrative, meanwhile youre many are drivung yo the trails live in their 5000square foot home, play golf on an expansive tract of land. Maybe ypu should stand at trail heads and hand out environmental credits and gold stars for the good boys and girls that live in tents , eat dandelions and dont own vehicles. Youre being rediculous as am i. Go try one. The trail will not explode behind you. Yojre arguement is the same we faced in thr 90's after the 80's of not even knowing we where in the woods. In the 90's "they" came to the conclusion we were trail terrorists only to discover that hiking and horseback caused more damage. Now youre caving to those same lobbyists will and throwing your brethren bikers under the bus. Picking a user group that youre not apart of and casting them out despite them not doing the most damage. Theyre not rototiller. Find anothret dyump to preach from. Ill be doing laps ehile you look
  • 7 1
 Can't deliver any range numbers? Did the guy even ride through a battery? Range is one of the first and most important questions people ask. An e-bike review should always include data on a couple rides. fail again.
  • 7 1
 There is now a way to filter the content you don't want to see. Too bad you can't filter all out all the ignorant and biased comments too. Mtb is getting like surfing. So much superiority, hate and judgement.
  • 11 5
 Are mountain bikers a bunch of whiny lil bitchezzz??? By the look of this comment section, yes, mega whiny lil bitchezzz. Bummer!!!
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 Why buy this when you can buy a yt decoy?
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 Hands down best looking ebike
  • 6 1
 @pargolf8: That and the new Commencal.
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 First company to make a park bike (like my commencal supreme sx 180mm front and rear) with a removable battery/motor (for lift/shuttle days) gets my money. Doesn't make a lot of sense for me to own a dedicated gravity rig AND ebike, but if they could combine it into one...TAKE MY MONEY.

Basically, I like riding 35-40lb park bikes like my Commencal. Take that same rig, and a motor for pedal days, and you got yourself an option that I swear would meet requirements of A LOT of the gravity population. Sure...I can currently pedal my Commencal, but not the tool of choice for 4-5k+ ft. days. That's what my Sentinel is for.
  • 6 0
 Looks like Yoan Barelli - with that yuuuge thing hanging down low.
  • 4 1
 So is it 27 or 29?
I like it... except the weight. That’s too heavy. It’s going to be 2-3kg heavier than the new bikes from some other companies.
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 Yeah, heavier than the Levo, not as capable as the Kenevo. Why have a air shock on a aggressive e bike? The suspension design works poorly with a coil shock.
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 @Laymo: I’m not sold on it.
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 24kg/53lbs... hilarious.
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 Gives you the best all body workout!
  • 4 2
 "Overall, the new long-travel addition to Giant’s lineup is most likely going to appeal to riders who want to experience the roughest trails without compromise."

I'd call all that extra mass a compromise, wouldn't you?
  • 2 0
 This is exciting. When moto technology and e bikes have a baby count me in. I would love to rip my Moto trails all day on a light ass bike that has tons of E power. No pedal assist!
  • 3 0
 Giant really toned down their branding.. Not a logo in sight on the side view
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flag Laymo (Aug 12, 2019 at 7:40) (Below Threshold)
 Good thing. Dumbest bike brand name ever.
  • 4 0
 Instead we get to see the (in my opinion) very nice paint jobs they've come out with this year! I appreciate it very much
  • 6 2
 I’d happily bounce along on that thing all day
  • 5 1
 Pinkbike reviews.... made for the comment section......end of review.
  • 8 4
 Ducati’s Multistrada 950 S next please
  • 1 0
 @tobes27 79-95 toyota trucks are known as pickups in North America and hilux everywhere else in the world Tacoma didn't exist until 95.5 completely different trucks. Fyi I am a toyota freak lol
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 "motor powered by Yamaha with 80 Nm of power output"

And yes I am still on a mountain bike website, wasn't sure for a second there.

BTW power is not the same thing as torque.
  • 2 0
 good point, wrong word used....
  • 3 0
 470mm chainstay on a 650b frame? Shuttle runs 438mm on a 29 wheels...
  • 1 2
 Maestro. Why do you think the Trance and Reign have such short travel.
  • 1 0
 That rider in the drop on the last pic showing just how far back you have to ride to handle them long ass chainstays... F that.
  • 3 0
 Longer stays do help on the steep combs where the added torque and traction would really lighten the front end. I have an XL Levo and personally like the better front to rear weight balance of longer stays.
  • 3 1
 I'm no guru but I rode the latter model and it was almost impossible to wheelie or manual due to those chainstays..
  • 3 1
 That would be correct. 470mm chainstays are designed for going straight and fast, whcih is why the bike has a very slack HTA, cuz plowing is all it's good for. To be honest, it is hard to make a short chainstay when there's a motor in the way... though Pivot and Fezzari seem to have made it work. I suspect Giant has designed this bike more for folks who have minimal bike skills.
  • 1 0
 You mean the ‘former’? Apologies for being the grammar police but that got me thinking!
  • 4 1
 I just came here for the ignorant hater comments. Ride one and wake up.
  • 5 3
 Call me back when it doesn’t look like a gestating Jack Russell
  • 2 1
 Inspired by HängEbauchschwein
de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A4ngebauchschwein
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flag pinnityafairy (Aug 12, 2019 at 7:17) (Below Threshold)
 I've seen these on e-trikes
  • 2 1
 24kg at top spec?
no thanks.
seriously i hope weight start dropping soon under 20kg
  • 6 4
 I am waiting for it to squat and lay a sticky mess of alien eggs.
  • 4 3
 Lol - they fixed the seat angle on the bike where pedaling matters least. Nice work guys.
  • 2 0
 lolz - wonder why the change... seems bizarre - they just released the new reign and the seat angle is still super slack...
  • 2 1
 The steeper seat angle helps keep tge chainstay shorter and keep the front end down when climbing. They just forgot to shorten the cs. That length cs is ok for an xl. They could have the left cs connect to the right cs above and in front of the bottom link to clear some space to have a 455 large, 440 med , 430 small chainstay and size chainstays like they size other fitments(like norco). Not sure why bike co's havent adopted that
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 You don’t get it. The pedaling does matter.
  • 1 0
 @platnum: ya i was wondering what was going on today. 2nd ride just spinning on the road to the trails. Motor was cutting in and out. Thought i had a problem with the bike. Dropped a gear and that required more tourque and tgats all it was. I didnt have to pedal hard on flat pavement so it was actuating the motor. On dirt heading up the mountain spinning and pushing just getting farther. It sucks you in, the more tourque you put in tge more tge motor matches it. Yt decoy, soo sick. Fun as
  • 2 0
 That green paint is one of the best colors I’ve seen in a long time.
  • 5 4
 Just so everyone knows...cause you all matter in my life...alot...I'm clicking the "No E-bikes" filter. Bye.
  • 3 1
 Looks like and seems to have gen 1 Levo tech.
  • 1 0
 Wouldn’t using any kind of bolt that requires for it to be fastened, end up in stripping the threads over time?
  • 2 0
 Only if you use tools like a gorilla. And you don't have to take the battery out that often. You can charge it while it is attached to the bike.
  • 1 0
 Congratulations Giant, this is the most disgusting looking e bike so far, take a bow, no really..
  • 3 2
 470mm chainstays! Barge alert!
  • 5 4
 fake news
  • 9 8
 pinkEbike.com -how's abouts
  • 1 0
 woow 160mm cranks ? 165mm cranks ? Welcome !!!
  • 1 1
 Qfactor looks super wide?

the motor doubles as a bashguard?

those chainstays.....
  • 4 5
 “To seal the gap between the battery and engine”

Perfect. Thanks for clarifying that PB believes e-bikes are motorized vehicles.
  • 1 0
 These e-bikes remind me of the old Cannondales with the fat tubes.
  • 1 0
 I thought the filter was supposed to keep this crap off my feed
  • 4 4
 Damn, I just can't filter it.
  • 1 3
 This is a super close colourway to what Merida uses on their new One Sixty, which coincidentally also looks very similar. Who copied whom?
  • 2 1
 Ooh ooh, and the red scheme stolen from Ibis HD4
  • 9 9
 so nice but for that coin ill take a 2020 kx 250f
  • 3 3
 That bike looks PREGNANT!
  • 7 7
 I would like to see a Yamaha XT 600 review as well pls
  • 3 3
 24kg. Pow! Does it come with a heavy lifting course? Or a crane?
  • 4 0
 Pretty sure my Santa Cruz super 8 with monster t fork and 3.0 gazzolodi tires was up in that range.
  • 12 12
 I dislike scooters on mtb trails.
  • 1 0
 Wait 360% of your power?
  • 2 4
 Is smashing the battery off a rock covered under warranty? That bike wouldn't last a week on real trails, at least not with my shoddy lines.
  • 1 1
 Giant with a beer gut. Haha
  • 1 2
 Take 2. Man 7k is cheap for a motorcycle. Triumph will be pissed there selling there's for much more
  • 2 2
 This belongs on pinkmoped.com
  • 13 14
 Oh joy More electric mopeds
  • 2 2
 MOTOR NOT ENGINE THX
  • 1 3
 Giant no all the way. Carbon fiber footprint is getting bigger with lithium and all the other rare earth elements.
  • 2 2
 AMAZING BIKE KIDS
  • 5 6
 E-Z bikes lol
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