First Ride: Santa Cruz Megatower

Mar 19, 2019
by Mike Kazimer  



What's bigger than a Hightower? How about a Megatower? The name may be a little silly, but Santa Cruz's latest addition to their lineup is a serious machine, with 29" wheels and 160mm of travel. It takes the place of the Hightower LT, a bike that was more of a stopgap, a temporary solution created to appease riders and racers who wanted more travel from the original Hightower. With the Megatower, Santa Cruz now have a purpose-built enduro bike in their catalog, one that draws on the lessons learned during the development of the Nomad, Bronson, and even the V10.

The base model complete Megatower C R is priced at $4,499, with a parts kit that includes a RockShox Yari RC fork, Super Deluxe R shock, SRAM NX 12-speed drivetrain, and Guide RE brakes. It's the $8,399 Megatower CC X01 Reserve that's pictured here, which gets a SRAM X01 drivetrain, Code RSC brakes, a Fox 36 Float Performance Elite, RockShox Super Deluxe RCT, and Santa Cruz's own Reserve carbon wheels.
Santa Cruz Megatower
• Wheelsize: 29"
• Travel: 160mm
• Head angle: 65° or 64.7°
• Chainstay length: 435mm or 445mm
• Threaded bottom bracket
• 12 x 148mm rear spacing
• Fork offset: 44mm
• Coil or air shock options, 230 x 57.5mm
• Sizes: S - XXL
• Colors: black, green
• Weight (claimed): 30.8 lb / 14 kg
• MSRP: $8,399 USD as shown / $3,299 CC frame only
www.santacruzbicycles.com

Looking to buy a Megatower with your MegaMillions lottery winnings? The XX1 AXS Reserve model is the way to go – it gets SRAM's wireless Reverb seatpost and AXS drivetrain, complete with that oh-so-fancy rainbow cassette, plus all of the top-tier componentry you'd expect for $10,499 USD.


NELSON New Zealand - at the Wairoa Gorge MTB Park during the launch of the 2019 Santa Cruz Bicycles Megatower near Nelson New Zealand. Photo by Gary Perkin
The Megatower uses the lower-link mounted shock VPP design that's gradually taking over Santa Cruz's full suspension lineup.


Frame Details

The silhouette of the Megatower's carbon frame may be nearly identical to that of the 27.5” Bronson, but in addition to having bigger wheels and 10mm more travel, the chainstay length can be set at either 435 or 445mm with a few minutes of tinkering. Making the switch involves flipping over the chip on the non-driveside chainstay, switching the brake adaptor, and installing a different derailleur hanger. It's not something you're likely to do in the middle of a ride, but it does give riders a little more freedom to fine tune the bike to match their riding style.

That 'have it your way' theme continues with the two possible shock mounting positions, which allows for a .3-degree slacker head angle and a 3mm lower bottom bracket height, along with a slightly more progressive shock curve in the low setting. There's enough end-stroke ramp up that the Megatower can accept either an air- or coil-sprung shock, and there are complete bikes available with either option.

Other notable frame details include a shuttle guard to keep the frame safe if it happens to bounce off a tailgate, a downtube protector, and a little fender that keeps mud away from the shock. There's also a ribbed chainstay protector to minimize chainslap noise, room to mount a water bottle on the top of the downtube, a threaded bottom bracket, and ISCG-05 tabs for mounting a bash guard.

NELSON New Zealand - at the Wairoa Gorge MTB Park during the launch of the 2019 Santa Cruz Bicycles Megatower near Nelson New Zealand. Photo by Gary Perkin
The Megatower's chainstay length can be altered by 10mm, although that change does require a different derailleur hanger and brake adaptor (included).


NELSON New Zealand - at the Wairoa Gorge MTB Park during the launch of the 2019 Santa Cruz Bicycles Megatower near Nelson New Zealand. Photo by Gary Perkin
The chainstay protector is ribbed for aural pleasure. No chain slap = happy ears.


Geometry

According to Nick Anderson, Santa Cruz's senior design engineer, the bike's designers rode some of the longest and slackest bikes on the market and experimented with different geometry numbers before settling on the figures for the Megatower. The final numbers are modern but not extreme, with a 470mm reach for a size large, and either a 65 or 64.7-degree head angle with a 160mm fork. Switching to a 170mm air spring in the fork is an easy way to get an even slacker head angle, and I have a feeling that will be a common upgrade, especially for riders whose usual trails are on the steeper and more technical side of things.






Santa Cruz Megatower
There's a green frame color option to go along with the basic black version.






“Roots... Bloody roots...” Sepultura's 1996 classic was stuck in my head for all four days of riding near Nelson, New Zealand, and for good reason. Smooth sections of trail were a rarity, due to the vast network of beech roots that spiderweb in every direction. It makes for very physical, engaging riding. Even in the dry, letting your guard down can mean getting hung up and losing all momentum, or getting knocked off line and into a gigantic fern.

Two days were spent riding at the Wairoa Gorge Bike Park, where the trails are steep works of art, originally built for a billionaire vulture capitalist to enjoy before being opened to the public, and another two days involved pinballing down a selection of the trails used for the NZ Enduro, including the classic Wakamarina track.

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Climbing

Climbing was hassle-free – the Megatower's seated climbing position was upright and comfortable, and well suited to spinning away the miles on the way to a nice long descent. There wasn't much unwanted motion during seated climbing, but I still used the climb switch on the Super Deluxe coil to firm things up even further. With the air shock I was less likely to use that little blue lever – there was less noticeable pedaling-induced motion, which gave the bike a little snappier, more energetic feel than with the coil shock.


Santa Cruz Megatower

Descending

I've ridden a healthy number of the current crop of long travel 29ers, and on paper the Megatower's numbers look fairly typical for this category. Santa Cruz have been easing their way into the long and slack realm, and while the Megatower's numbers are thoroughly modern, it's also not really super long or slack. However, on the descents, the Megatower felt like a much burlier bike than I'd expected, especially compared to the plush and playful nature of the Bronson. There's a seriousness to its handling, one that rewards an aggressive, hard-charging riding style. That may work well for bigger riders and those who ride fully pinned 110% of the time, but personally, I had trouble coming to terms with the Megatower's handling.

At times it felt like I was fighting to get it to do what I wanted, especially in really rough sections of trail - no matter whether I had an air or coil shock installed the bike still felt stiffer and less forgiving than I'd anticipated. A lighter compression tune, or possibly a set of aluminum wheels could be the answer here.

On the final day of riding I swapped to the longer chainstay setting. That day also happened to have some of the steepest and tightest turns of the trip, but I didn't feel like the extra length was a hindrance. If anything, I felt more centered, especially on steeper straightaways – I could drop my heels and point down the fall line without feeling like I was too far off the back of the bike. The longer setting isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea, but it's nice to have the option, especially for taller riders.

In any case, I need additional ride time to see if I can crack the code to making the most of the Megatower. As it is, my initial impressions are that it's best suited to a confident pilot who values stiffness and support over comfort and compliance. We'll see if that changes once I get one on my home trails for further evaluation.


Santa Cruz Megatower







499 Comments

  • + 182
 Oh man. That first photo is reminding me of those good summer dusty days. Tired of the snow right about now
  • + 19
 Give me snow anyday over rain and mud.
  • + 29
 @fartymarty: Really? is mud alone not messy enough?

Snow over mud in the rain makes for really "Novemberkåsan" type of riding. I much prefer to keep them separate...
  • + 29
 @fartymarty: Boohoo crapland babies: ingles winter
Just been in Hull dry sunny light wind and +10°C
Be happy with your winter, it’s our summer
  • + 9
 @vitality: yes, but its Hull. There isn't a hill within 20 miles of the place.
  • + 23
 @vitality: you thought Hull was good?! o_0
  • + 8
 Well if you want to quit winter just get on a plane! Wairoa Gorge Bike Park is next level radness.
  • + 2
 @dan0872: so true
  • + 9
 @vitality: Rode with several Scandinavian guys who came to live in Switzerland. I thought they have everything up there and asked why did they come in Basel. Answer was "the weather".
Funny thing was that at that time I was also new in Switzerland and coming from Croatian coast I was sick and tired of the bad weather in Basel Big Grin
  • + 1
 Amen brotha.
  • - 4
flag oldtech (Mar 19, 2019 at 5:28) (Below Threshold)
 Flat Florida migration for Winters
  • + 1
 upvote x 1,000,000
  • + 13
 @fartymarty: you can not ride at -20 with 45cms of snow on the ground. Mud and rain looks good to me
  • + 35
 @Golden-G: I've tried powder skis, park skis and even slalom skis, with both alpine and touring bindings but they are all terrible on UK mud.
  • + 7
 @Kickmehard: LOL. What does skiing have to do with riding?? I would take mud and rain over -20 anyday. We just endured 5 weeks of -15 to -30 every day. It sucked.
  • + 1
 @pakleni: Ticino is the best spot in Switzerland , Sunny all year long...and crazy nice trails! Smile
  • + 1
 @fartymarty: I was pushing through snow yesterday , as I could not ride it. Was mid calf deep , and kept locking up my wheels . At least mud is easier to pedal through from my experience , I do live in BC . We get a bit of rain here as well.
  • + 3
 @Golden-G: just lamenting the lack of ski season in the uk. In all honesty the UK is so mild that you can ride 365 if you don't mind the damp. I've spent a bit of time in Montreal over various winters and there is no way I could enjoy myself with those temperatures long term. The dirt is always browner on the other side of the fence.
  • + 1
 @Kickmehard: we cant have it all...
  • + 1
 Here it's dust through the whole year. And boy o'boy are we bored by the dust. Send us some water/snow.
  • + 1
 I@YepComponents: if you like riding down steps
  • + 4
 Graham Swamp is pretty rad @oldtech:
  • + 2
 @MelvieD: it no Snowshoe but it's a nice surprise to find a shred that close to the beach in a flat state.
  • + 2
 @oldtech: I discovered it this winter after fleeing snow in Tucson. I was worked after 6 miles. It was ok though, crossed the street and stuck my feet in the ocean. It ain’t Snowshoe, but I’ll take 80degree blue bird February days any day.
  • + 1
 @MelvieD: that's my home trail! Love that place
  • + 1
 @MelvieD: there's five good trail spots in the area Graham swamp, malacompra, Moses Creek, Chuck Klein Sports Complex, Spruce Creek, grapefruit Trail gft, Santos vortex, and Mount Dora. If you choose to migrate even farther south there's Alafaya State Park and Balm Boyette
  • + 1
 @allenfstar: m.pinkbike.com/photo/16971822/#cid10356167
Graham swamp For the Win 4 mountain bike trails
  • + 1
 @oldtech: hahaha I'll have a sweet slow mo jumping the podium up on Instagram later today @trek_rad_dad
  • + 2
 @guytherev: I think its called 'Hell' by the locals
  • + 116
 Not available in aluminium - *opens new tab, types commencal mata 29, what a relief*.
  • + 29
 Totally agree, I like that Santa Cruz usually has an alloy model, over 3k for a frame is ludicrous but you can have all the fun for not much more than half that with alloy, it’s the way to go!
  • + 31
 Capra 29 AL Comp is nearly identical geometry-wise and the whole bike costs like this frame Smile
  • + 60
 @sergeyeremin: Capra does not have a water bottle mount, so it does not counts, really. Of course this is my personal and biased opinion.
  • + 24
 Forgot to ask about 26 version and 135mm QR?
  • + 3
 @lkubica: because wear small bag for water bladder is old fashioned now
  • - 1
 Compared to a hydration pack water bottle is about as convenient as a trailside tap, but to each their own...
  • + 2
 @sergeyeremin: if you just looking for numbers , maybe but there is something called suspension design and cable routing.
  • + 11
 @bellosofiono: It's not about fashion, this is just my personal preference. And it seems I'm not the only one. Small bag or big bag, does not matter, your back sweats. And bladders in hip packs are inconvenient in their own ways.
@chyu Aluminium is still the best technology to make an affordable and long lasting bikes, nothing to laugh at. Carbon is simply not worth the price, for me. If I were a dentist though, my opinion would be different for sure.
  • - 1
 @sergeyeremin: WBM is also useful just to store your fkn tool's and spares. I took a bottle mount over any improvised mount for tools. Open the f*cking bottle and throw spares in it. It also will not get wet and muddy. Even more time saved then after you need to fix it and NOT clean it first. Also faster because you can just scope it back in the bottle. Re straping stuff to the frame isn't that fast if you want it secure.
  • + 8
 @sergeyeremin: ya but then ur stuck with a Capra.
  • + 12
 @Serpentras: One bottle mount for water, another for tools, and one more for the pump? Smile

Thanks, it all fits so nicely into a hydration pack, leaving you with a light, nimble and rattle-free bike.
  • + 5
 @Serpentras: 4-bar and VPP are both time-proven and well-reviewed designs, and from what I see both bikes have very similar internal routing – care to elaborate on your blurp?
  • + 19
 I'm sure it will be available in aluminum in a few months, just like every bike SC has launched recently. They always come out with the fancy carbon one first and follow it up with the alloy version a bit later.
  • + 6
 @BlackVR: not the Hightower, the V10, the Blur or the Highball
  • + 15
 @bohns1: friends dont let friends ride YT Wink
  • + 1
 @sergeyeremin: The Capra is stupidly progressive in my opinion and it doesn't seem to work as well in technical terrain as it's competitors. Out of all 29er Enduros Kazimer reviewed last year, the capra seems to have gotten the worst verdict...
  • + 1
 @sergeyeremin: no argument then because a hydration pack is hydration only. You talk about a small backpack with hydration.
I have both, I even have a hydration pack with a detachable toolbag. I still carry my tool's preferred on the bike. I also like it to just do a quick one hour ride after-work. I don't need a bag for that or hydration pack if I just have a bottle mount.
This suspension work's different and feels different. Some can tell blind if it is a VPP or not but well I don't care what your preferred suspension platform looks like because both are not identical therefore I can not just buy a Capra to have the same performance. Also the Capra pedals like my long travel wannabe Enduro rig. Just bad uphill, that's something for real Enduro bikes.
Cable management also is similar and I don't think it is good as on the Nomad, still slightly better then the Capra.

I never said Horst or VPP is better, it is not the same...
  • + 6
 @jzPV: FTFY – Capra WAS stupidly progressive. Not anymore.
I guess if you need something really plush you should look elsewhere, but that would probably give you a dead and heavy-feeling monstertruck.

Reread the review regarding progression, I'll take these pros any day:

+ Very manageable, especially considering the amount of travel
+ Never met a jump it didn't like

Even if it means that:

- Not super plush in rough terrain
  • + 7
 @Serpentras: Don't forget also that different bikes/sus suit different styles/weights/heights – there's not one bike which is better for all of us, just ride what suits you!

I can fit a multitool/puncture repair kit in my tiny "only" hydration pack, and for 1-hour rides I just ride without it – a glass of water inside me is a lot easier than bothering with external stuff Wink
  • + 1
 @sergeyeremin: the 29er Capra has a rate of about 3.5-2.15 in low and 3.7-2.15 in high position, the old Capra has a rate of 3.3-1.98, so it's pretty much the same progression or even more.
The problem with most people I encounter with Capras is that they have problems using full travel. Some ride with a sag of up to 40 % as a result, which takes away the liveliness and makes the bike sluggish, and it's not competent under power anyway...
  • + 9
 Transition Sentinel...29er alu, long travel, 64 degree HTA. Better and been out for longer so its tested.
  • + 0
 @Serpentras: yes there is an argument for using a hydration pack. But like you and many others, once you go back pack less you can’t go back. The freedom you have of not having dead weight is amazing. And hydro packs are not back protectors. They arguably make it worse. And yes, I’ve experienced both ways landing on my back from a failed jump. One can easily put a multi tool, GUP, and a bottle on the bike for 2 - 5 lb more weight. And if you use the fid lock bottle, there is zero rattle.
  • + 5
 @jzPV: read the forums. Most people with that issue all have the DPX shock. X2 and super deluxe isn’t having that issue. Seems like a shock tune issue if you do some reading.
  • + 4
 @jzPV: Not in my experience. On smooth sectors/runs you obviously don't use full 170mm of travel (that would be worrying), but through the gnarly rocks it really has my back without harsh bottom-outs. Different bikes/sus suit different styles/weights.

I thought I might try a coil on a new Capra with its progressivity, but SuperDeluxe RCT works wonderfully, and it's even smoother over Lenzerheide WC track than Tues CF Pro – 29 wheels obviously help as well.
  • + 2
 @TypicalCanadian: Thanks, that might explain why I never experienced that – trying to keep as far as possible from DPX! X2 on previous bike and SuperDeluxe on the new one!
  • + 7
 @monsieurgage: inclined to agree with you, the sentinel alloy does tick a lot of boxes, my only complaint is why does it weight nearly 10lbs for a frame and shock! its like they didn't put any effort into engineering it because they have the carbon version, feels a bit like an afterthought, for reference alot of alloy enduro frames seem to be around 1lbs lighter (and yes i'm accounting for some weights not including a shock)

This seems to be a reoccurring pattern with brands with carbon flagship versions and cheaper alloy versions, the alloy versions tend to be much heavier making the carbon ones look attractive yet brands that have alloy only bikes are generally able (or more willing?) to make them weigh less.
One good example is Transition patrol alloy = 4.3kg medium with DPX2
Airdrop edit v3 = 3.6 - 3.9kg (size dependent) with super deluxe so at least 400g (more like 600g/1.3lbs for the medium) lighter, that's quite a lot.
  • + 1
 @Happypanda1337: Hey man, I noticed you mentioned GUP - how have you found those?
  • - 2
 @sergeyeremin: This argument for lightness in the bottle mount vs pack debate is completely invalid. It's not like the weight of a pump and full bottle is completely deleted when you put it on your person. What about center of gravity? Having that weight on your bike is not the end of a ride's fun. Not to mention the added rider weight of the pack itself. There are obvious scenarios where having more water/storage is obviously preferred/safer. But at a trail center with water, a bottle is always best so you don't have dead weight strapped to you up high.
  • + 0
 ???? But all that room for a water bottle!
  • - 4
flag sergeyeremin (Mar 19, 2019 at 9:32) (Below Threshold)
 @genericparkrider: I easily notice +500g to the bike but don't really care about +500g to my 80kg body. For 1-hour rides I just ride without it – a glass of water inside me is a lot easier than bothering with external stuff Wink

Please do some calculations and you'll see that any hydration placement would have a negligible effect on your COG, so let's not even go there.
  • + 2
 @jzPV: I guy I see on the trail often had this same issue with his Capra - Switched rear shock from the super deluxe air to coil and he's now getting expected travel.
  • - 2
 @TypicalCanadian: It's still by far the most progressive design out there, you won't get around that fact with a different shock tune. The DPX2 is also known to be overdamped on the new Transition models.

A high volume air shock obviously helps, but as Kazimer pointed out in his review he still would have liked less progression. A coil shock is the best option if that's an issue for a rider... a friend is using a Double Barrel XV in his old Capra and that's still too progressive and too much sag for my liking.
  • - 4
flag epideme (Mar 19, 2019 at 9:43) (Below Threshold)
 Honestly why would you want alloy frame? Maybe 5 years ago, when carbon was a new and not proven yet and bike manufacturers offered just one year warranty. But nowadays with lifetieme warranty I dont see any advantage of alloy.
  • + 0
 @epideme: Warranty is great and all, but if my bike brakes during riding season I don't want to wait for a replacement. I also want to be able to toss my bike in the bed of a truck with a bunch of friends bikes and not worry about a pedal gauging my carbon which will likely not be covered by any warranty.
  • + 0
 @jzPV: I’ll just go off of actually owning one rather than reading reviews and trying a friend’s bike. Not too progressive, plenty of fun.
  • + 1
 @Bustacrimes: not to much of an issue when there never in stock and warranty is abysmal anyways.
  • + 8
 @epideme: I've had a carbon frame for 4 years now and done a lot of miles on it in that time which has lead me to the conclusion that yes carbon has the win on paper but when it comes to actually owning and using a bike, alloy is better.
Carbon wins on 2 counts: Weight and aesthetics (smooth lines and shapes are usually nicer) maybe stiffness but alloy can be stiff too it just becomes heavier.
Alloy wins in a few areas of ownership: Less susceptible to crash or transport and impact damage, cable or foot rub can do real damage to carbon but not so much alloy, ultimately mountain bikes naturally get bashed about with use and carbon is a bit more fragile and that kind of damage isn't under warranty so ending up with a £3k paper weight is a real worry, one that I've had first hand with owning and damaging carbon frames so that alone makes me happy to choose alloy when considering a frame, then there's the big kicker of price, when alloy is very often 40% cheaper it's very easy to not care about of bit of weight and fancy carbon.
  • + 9
 @maglor: I'm 75kg + gear. My Sentinel is 16kg with SG tires, pedals and currently stock Flow S1 wheels (whcih are 2100g). Total weight is 95kg. My super heavy frame weighs about 1kg more than the carbon version, thats 1% of the total weight which in my view is bugger all.

Coming off a Nomad4 the Sentinel pisses all over the nomad on the climbs. The only place I notice the weight is lifting it into the back of the ute.
  • + 3
 @TypicalCanadian: Funny how several owners are trying to say "not too progressive, plenty of fun" and have to defend their own experience as if they're making it up Smile @jzPV
  • + 4
 @sergeyeremin: exactly. Getting downvoted for saying I’ll base my opinions off owning something rather than a single review. PB comments section is a joke these days haha. So much butthurt.
  • + 13
 @bohns1: I've been stuck with a Capra for the last 4 years, and just keep thinking to myself "boy I wish I'd spent a few thousands extra on a Yeti SB130 so I could brag about my overly expensive bike"! Still keeps me up at night...

Seriously, I get you love your bike, but there are plenty of people who do like their YT's so maybe tone it down a bit...
  • - 6
flag bohns1 (Mar 19, 2019 at 12:52) (Below Threshold)
 @NickB01: Haha nothing like reading into it too much eh bud! I said nothing about my bike.. But ya.. It was worth the few extra thousand just on the merit of switch itself.

That being said I actually tried to get Jeffsy on a few seperate occasions.. But they never had stock for months.. Atleast on the north American side of it.. Needless to say, I moved on..
  • - 1
 @NickB01: overly expensive is all subjective.. I do well so don't view it as such.
  • + 8
 @bohns1: What's there to read into? Capra's are bad, warranties are terrible, and stock is terrible. And you couldn't get one so you bought an SB130 which is just the best and YT are terrible, told enough times on enough articles that I know the story despite it not being mentioned here...

Hence my need to say, please tone it down, I quite like my Capra thanks.
  • + 0
 @TypicalCanadian: I stated my opinion, which is quite well funded and explained above. I was objective and didn't attack anyone or acted butthurt. If that's a joke then the comment section really is going down these days.
  • + 2
 @MattInNZ: I agree with you weight isn’t nearly as important as people think and I’d happily have an alloy frame over carbon and take the weight, in most riding you’re right the weight isn’t noticeable but when it comes to hopping the bike over things and general agility the bike is dead weight and that 1kg is 6% of the bike which is pretty big, it also helps when climbing and is extra noticeable if you decide to session a section and push it up. It’s like rotational mass also makes a bigger difference than other mass so it’s not quite as simple as counting it all together with rider.

My main issue however was it seem brands have given up trying to reduce weight on alloy frames when they have carbon versions which is a bit annoying.
  • - 3
 @NickB01:reading comprehension much? U read into an assumption assuming that I think my bike is the best.. Don't know where that came from.. Having a bad day perhaps bud!

But ur right.. Warranty is terrible and I couldn't get one(which by the way was a blessing in disguise).. Demoed the yeti and was blown away.. So Ya bought that..

Enjoy the Capra.
  • + 2
 @Rigidjunkie: SC gives you new frame on manufacturing defects and 50% off if it was your fault. But I am pretty sure that pedal would not make its way thru if you just toss other bike on top of yours... But understand your concern I had the same five years ago. But now I've gained bit more trust in carbon.
  • + 1
 @maglor: True that, it is good to have different options. But talking about the rub. I've had carbon cranks on my bike for 5 years, the rub marks are visible but I don't think it had affected or damaged the cranks at all. I am 90kg+ and I've put them thru lot of abuse. I've been using alloy until now, because of the very reasons you have just listed.
  • + 1
 And a jacket, and a beer, and a pipe, and a snack, and a phone. @sergeyeremin:
  • + 2
 @maglor:
"My main issue however was it seem brands have given up trying to reduce weight on alloy frames when they have carbon versions which is a bit annoying."

Doesn't annoy me, since the weight like @MattInNZ says, is only really an issue when loading/unloading from a vehicle.

I appreciate the ride quality an peace of mind that the Alloy frames offer.

Just have to disengage the side of the brain that thinks too much about numbers.
  • + 1
 @chyu: does it come with a 20x100 front axle? Asking for a friend...
  • - 1
 @sergeyeremin: If you're a Brit/Aussie/Kiwi the rear hose routing sucks on almost all new bikes as you're forced to run it on the left. Not only does that look shit with the hose bulging out in front of the bike and chaffing the headtube, but if you have a stack and rotate the bars hard to the left there's no strain relief from the hose going around the headtube and all the force goes through the hose/frame interface and your brake hose ends up at least badly kinked.

I'll never buy a bike with racist routing.
  • + 2
 @jclnv: There are two ways of connecting the brakes, and it's OK to like one over the other, seen plenty of people running both moto and traditional.
None of them called it racist though, as it does not have anything to do with race or racism. Just something for you to think about.
  • - 4
flag jclnv (Mar 20, 2019 at 7:34) (Below Threshold)
 @sergeyeremin: You don't know what you're talking about.

When a minority of riders have to use a shitty brake routing method because the majority of manufacturers haven't considered them in the design process, what would you call the reasoning that allowed them to make that decision?
  • + 3
 @jclnv: Here's a clue: does it have anything to do with race?
  • - 1
 @sergeyeremin: Yes, England and its colonies.
  • + 1
 @sergeyeremin: ewww sweaty backs
  • - 2
 @senorbanana: Get yourself a good minimal ventilated backpack, or if your back is too sweaty even for this, a hip pack.
Not judging, just can't help if you've got sweaty back problems... Ask a doctor
  • + 3
 @jclnv: Can't see any races mentioned in your comment... Maybe call it anti-imperialist routing?
  • + 0
 @sergeyeremin: still more sweat then without a pack.

Just get the water bottle.

I know people who can go without water for 2h. Well that and 1h is absolutely not normal.

I took a bike with a mount over another brand with almost the same frame characteristics.
I would only choose the other frame if it has external cable routing and no water bottle mount if both are almost the same.
  • - 1
 @Serpentras: Different things work for different people. I'm glad it works for you, don't force it upon others. Feels like there's a new Church of Water Bottles. Smile
  • + 1
 @sergeyeremin: forcing what? Look in the mirror.
I take the extra option if anything is almost the same like most other people. If I can have both, why not? I don't route cables internal but if the frame has both , why not....
However both bike's the Capra and the Megatower don't have what I am searching for unfortunately the Megatower is close but still wrong.
  • + 1
 @lkubica: 100% agree
  • + 106
 This bike is satisfying the real costumer needs on a whole new level! As an owner of a black Nomad 3 I can secretly buy this bike and my wife will never find out!!
  • + 4
 I thought the exact same thing with my N3!
  • + 106
 Heard they're re-branding the v10 to gigatower for 2020
  • + 67
 I’m waiting for the Tera bike.
  • + 30
 Mega tower sounds like the name of a lame Transformer that turns in a building!
  • - 3
 Uber Tower
  • + 4
 MEGA will become the new EXTREME!!!!
  • + 6
 This will only be acceptable if it's a 1.21 gigawatt gigatower.
  • + 4
 @mikekazimer: come on, big data is here, go for the Peta.
  • + 1
 @Spillner: So it turns up late and adds $300 onto the price when you're not looking, then claims you were sick on the saddle?
  • + 3
 HugelyTower. It can jump walls!
  • + 3
 They certainly weren't trying very hard with the name.
  • + 0
 Yotta Bike! That way, you have your big data bike or a little green Jedi bike (not to be confused with a Canfield).
  • + 92
 Make Enduro Great Again
  • + 8
 Sam Hill approves.
  • + 5
 I wanted to hate, but that is quite funny
  • + 77
 Would Ride, but am poor
  • - 27
flag scary1 (Mar 19, 2019 at 0:34) (Below Threshold)
 I would ride ,but I'm lazy
  • + 7
 @scary1: that's exactly what a 49 year old from Arizona would say
  • + 64
 The bike that Megatron would ride at the Mega Avalanche after fighting a megladon. Mega.
  • + 49
 Purpose built for enduro racers, so I’m sure it’ll sell. But $8399 and you don’t even get Kashima? Ouch.
  • + 13
 i was thinking the same. maybe santa cruz just dont think kashima is worth it and pocket that extra bit of cash.
  • + 18
 I think they'd rather "squeeze" in that price tag their carbon wheels than Fox's pricier option
  • + 7
 Its probably a color thing. Keep the "all black" look.

And of course most bike companies are never short of excuses for speccing cheap parts and selling at sky high prices.
  • + 2
 It's hard to look at a bike like this after seeing prices and build specs on direct bikes.
  • + 2
 @b0cephus: If you keep reminding yourself what will happen if/when something breaks, you´ll see that you get what you pay for.

I cant be arsed waiting 3 months for a bike to come in to stock, or 6 months for a replacement part, i´d rather pay the premium and have a fighting chance of being able to walk in to a shop and get an issue resolved with a person not a website or automated email. The direct brands have a terrible rep here - the only people lauding them are the people who buy them because they´re cheap. (Maybe like the people who buy them).
  • + 7
 You’re basing that on PB comments, not personal experience I fake it? I’ve had two issues with YT, and they’ve fixed both. Free of charge. Including delivery. Even after I’d moved countries. Most brands with fragmented distribution wouldn’t be able to help you. @Bustacrimes:
  • + 1
 Because kashima is just so much slicker that other colors..
  • + 0
 @Bustacrimes: You're saying people who buy direct are cheap? Bit extreme, both options have their pros and cons i'm sure. never bought direct but i've heard as much good as bad testimonials and same goes for LBS.
  • + 3
 @Bustacrimes: Good on ya - I live 20 minutes away from YT USA distribution, and see a TON of these bikes on the trail. Everyone loves them, few have had issues, and the people that have had issues get them resolved quickly. For me, that price gap is getting harder and harder to justify.
  • + 0
 @b0cephus: i hear they´ve been much better at resolving issues in the US - but then the impression here in Europe is your market wont accept poor service - and i doubt they´d get a second look with all the core mtb brands being US. Personally, i would miss the LBS and direct brands will be the nail in their coffin.
  • + 39
 Altering chainstay length by 10mm without changing reach, head angle, BB height and fork offset - Pinkbike engineer runs out of the building making continous low pitch noises.
  • + 16
 Maybe if you tell them to pretend it´s not adjustable and that XL and XXL sizes come built in the long chainstay configuration and say something about less SKU:s and such they will calm down?

"Adjustability" is not always the reason for adjustability if you wnow what I meen...
  • + 12
 Not much to bitch about here. Color?
  • + 12
 @jollyXroger: Naa.. Black is the new black!
  • + 1
 Yeah right. There is clearly a sacred formula for bike proportions that the whole industry follows or else the bike will suck (sarcasm). And you can indeed change all those things, even if you have to buy a larger or smaller frame size.
  • + 1
 @DavidGuerra: if geometry was an untouchable magic formula, Down Country would not exist. We all know that one of the main points of going DC is to upfork a XC bike to feel Wokeaf. It's like that thing with Betty Crocker instant cake. If you give them a ready, slack XC bike, they will be a bit meh. But if you give them a regular XC bike, just with a few beefier components, they will buy the piston assembly and increase the travel of the fork, being SO fricking proud of themselves. Iiiii (pause) have tanscended to a higher plaaaaannnnnNNNNNe... for Iiii... (pause) personally, out of my own ingeniuity (pause)... have realized an opportunity for potential improvement!... in d-e-s-c-e-d-i-n-g performance of a bicycle that most think can only serve on fireroads! What's more! (pause and inhales very deeply, preparing for a long single burst of words) it is possible! that! It will nearly match the performance of an Enduro bike! (exhales...) and I shall seize this opportunity!!! (thunder strikes)

"Gravel Upforked - the story of Down Country" the most anticipated book on cycling of 2019 by Mike Levy, preorder now.
  • + 2
 Pinkbike engineer. Now there is a contradiction in terms if I ever heard one.
  • + 40
 A possible improvement from swapping from carbon to alloy rims? Uh oh.
  • + 25
 Kinda funny if you read between the lines:

Carbon rims....too stiff
Longer Stays....more stable, fun
Coil shock....felt dead

What's old is new again.
  • + 29
 Even though the Hightower LT was considered by many to be a "hack", it's also proven itself to be an excellent one, in that it's a big bike that functions great as a do it all bike and never feels like too much bike on easy trails. Since a big part of the customer base for the Mega are current Lt owners, a comparison between the two would be something I'd look forward to. The new bike could be amazing, but it'll be really expensive if I feel the need to park a short travel bike next to it in order to not feel silly when I just want to get a pedal in on some easy stuff.
  • + 9
 yeah for a hack, it got possibly and consistently the best reviews of any bike i've ever read about. seat angle was the one and only negative ever mentioned
  • + 12
 Quick comparison from someone that's owned an OGHT and HTLT, currently rides a Ripmo and has tested and ordered a MT. Although I liked my HTLT as a trail bike, I always felt like it took a lot of core engagement to climb (SA too slack) and the front end would tend to knife when ridden at race speed (too short and too steep). Ripmo has been a big improvement in terms of climbing and the longer front end is way more comfortable for me. MT basically takes everything I love about my Ripmo and makes it slacker and more forgiving.

No getting around the fact that the MT is a lot of bike. If you find that you want more than the HTLT can give, the MT is a no brainer. The MT climbs better and it's more aggressive everywhere else. If the HTLT feels like more bike than you need, the MT will likely be a bridge too far. And yeah, a MT as your "one" bike will be overkill for plenty of places. Then again, if all your riding is fast and gnarly, it'll be a perfect choice. My $.02.
  • + 3
 @DirtCrab: As a Hightower owner who rode an LT a couple times. I thought the LT was massively underwhelming. It felt like it climbed and descended worse than the regular bike. I can't wait to ride this bike and hope they come out with an aluminum frame only option.
  • + 11
 @Rigidjunkie:

I think the upcoming Hightower replacement in this platform is gonna be a lovely trail slayer. Hopefully 140r/150f or thereabouts with woke geo.
  • + 4
 You're definitely right, but here's how that review is going conclude: HTLT is a great all mountain/trail bike that can be happily ridden anywhere, MegaTower is an enduro bike focused on descending.
  • + 8
 I'm thinking about swapping from my HTLT to the Megatower. I like the HTLT but I've ran into some issues... I live in TN so it's more than I need for local rides but it's not really slack enough for weekend rides like Windrock. I'm 6'5" and after changing the fork to 160mm, the seat tube is slack to the point I dread climbing on it. I'm wondering if the Megatower with its steeper STA and stays at 445mm would actually climb better than the HTLT for really tall guys.
  • + 2
 @DirtCrab: I don’t currently own a bike, but have been really interested in a Ripmo for my only bike. Are you planning on getting a MT to replace you Ripmo, or in addition to it? I’m looking for anywhere on the internet to compare these two bikes specifically. What is your guidance? Can you shed some more light on a comparison between Ripmo and MT?
  • + 3
 @JesseBuller: MT will be replacing my Ripmo. That said, Ripmo is likely the better "one" bike for most riders. To date, my Ripmo has been my favorite bike I've ever owned. It's been perfectly reliable and it just seems to do everything well. It certainly hits well above its weight riding park and racing DH. That said, it's still basically a 5" bike, so I'm asking a lot of it for my personal use case. MT fits my current needs better as a race bike, but it will probably be getting a smaller stablemate for mellower rides.

@jeremy3220: MT will climb better than your HTLT by a country mile. Doesn't solve the issue of it being more than you need for your local rides, but I could see it being a total ripper at Windrock.
  • + 3
 @DirtCrab: have you ever tried the bronson v3? if so, how does it climb in comparison to the MT?
  • + 2
 @oneimaginaryboy: LOVE the B3, easily one of the funnest bikes I've ridden in the last year. MT climbs better-- roomier front end, steeper STA, more traction.
  • + 2
 @DirtCrab: thank you for covering what I would have said, word for word.
  • + 26
 Could someone please explain what the hype with geometry is all about? Are the comments satirical, or is everyone that obsessed with the most "modern" of numbers? Is this a "my bike is better than yours, because headangle and seatangle"?
  • + 51
 Yes.
  • + 27
 Didn't you hear Leo's "proof" that endlessly long bikes with super steep SA and ultra flat HA are a whopping 3% faster!
Thats like, super important for us recreational riders, well worth the 8k spent on a new bike! Just imagine the strava times!
  • + 12
 Ride one and you will see.
  • + 17
 Because everyone has a Whistler in their backyard, you know.
  • + 4
 @Ttimer: Haha well played...
  • + 14
 No, it’s the “the bike that I don’t own and have no intention of buying is better than the bike that you don’t own” comment section.
  • + 2
 @FrEZa yes!
  • + 3
 Thank you for the replies, I knew it was all baloney. I honestly thought that most comments were serious about specific water bottle placements and a 0.5 degree changes whether in HA or SA. And let's face it, we all know how big of a difference a comfortable saddle is, Giant even had it as a negative in one of their last reviews.
  • + 1
 "Modern" trails seem to be of the fast, open and burly kind, so a bike that is suitable for them falls into the modern category.
  • + 3
 @FrEeZa: It isn't baloney! If you ride a bike with older geo and your are happy with that great! However, progressive geometry (Pole/Nicolai) make a bike that goes downhill with more stability and ease as well as making climbing insanely steep stuff WAY easier.
  • + 0
 @FrEeZa: but it's not baloney.. Go ride a newer geo bike
  • + 3
 Newer geometry is better up to a certain point, beyond that, if they didn't fiddle with geometry every year they would have nothing to new to sell you, and Pinkbike would have nothing to write about except gimmicky new helmets, tires, and grips.
  • + 1
 @SlodownU: Of course it is good up to a certain point. That point being sub 60º ha, 90º seat angle 500mm CS and +1400mm wheelbases..."They" fiddle with geometry every year because they haven't reached the limit and are too scared so only make micro increases in reach, wheelbase and tiny changes in HA and SA.
  • + 2
 @SintraFreeride: I agree with your statement. I was not refering to 2004 geometry or anything archaic, ever since the Sumum, bikes have gotten slacker and more comfortable, no bout adoubt that. My question was, basically, how is it that every week we get a new bike, with the bestest geometry and software updates, making everything before it obsolete and everyone always knows better? It's like choosing a smartphone in here!
  • + 5
 @bohns1: I have, they are awesome! Then again, what classifies a newer geo bike? Is a 2016 model obsolete, is the lowest pain threshold 2017? Is running with the time a factor? Giant and Trek had the modern enduro bikes years ago, yet no one understood them, whereas the first Kona Process is still incredible in 2019. When will the comments ever find closure, namsayin?
  • + 4
 @FrEeZa: Part of that is overreacting to hype. In this respect, the mtb-world is a bit like the stock market. Whenever there is something new people go crazy and declare it the bestest of all best things that have ever been better than the best before and can't get enough of it. Right now every litte bit of slacker, longer or lower is hailed as the second coming of crist.

In a season or three reality will have set in, people will have stopped caring about geo all that much and another hype will roll through town. Remember the weight craze when carbon was the new cool thing?
  • + 3
 @FrEeZa: well, I came off a 2016 trek fuel ex and now on a sb130.. I will say it is quite amazing what a few short years can do.. The trek was 120mm travel f/rand the sb130 is the obvious 130r/150f... The yeti despite weighing more climbs just as well.. The SA angle really helps in that regard keeping my weight where it needs to be as well as optimal pedal position during climbs.. Especially at my height.. More comfortable with less effort is the best way I can put it.

On the downs it is a huge step up especially in stability given its longer slacker nature even tho the chainstays are pretty short for a 29 bike.. I realize the trek is closer to an xc/trail but still I had her built quite burly for its intended purpose.

Does that mean a 16 or 17 bike is obsolete? Well, to some, I guess yes they are..

Does that mean a 16 or 17 bike can't get the job done and being a shit eating grin to one's face? Of course not.
  • + 5
 @bohns1:

I don't know if it counts because I have a SC Blur that has VPP but I have ridden all my biking friends new bikes when they come out and on normal non-bike park/shuttle trails there is very little difference. If I time a 45-60 minute ride all the bikes are within 1-2 minutes of each other as long as it is a similar bike. (obviously a 80mm xc bike and a 200mm dh bike will vary by a lot)

It isn't just me either we bike swap almost every time someone gets a new bike and it doesn't change anyone by more than 1-2 minutes. I have never seen a guy get a new bike and start smoking everyone, ever. Maybe if your friend is on a Huffy.
  • + 1
 @bohns1: The Trex fuel was redesigned in 2017 so your 2016 and 2014/2015 were similar. So that's going to be a big difference. A 2017-2019 Fuel EX is more modern but not as progressive as this bike.
  • + 0
 @FrEeZa: The reason is what I said before:most brands haven't reached optimal geometry and chose to crawl there rather than take the leap. As for why they get called out for not doing so that is because many of us have tried better geometry and can't wait for brands to catch up. Seat angle is a great example of that. Any brand with sub 76º effective seat angle in 2019 is losing customers...
  • + 0
 @FrEeZa: Year of bike is not always the best indicator. The Nicolai geometron from 2014 is still more ahead of the curve than most 2019 models.
  • + 4
 @SintraFreeride: So why bitch about other bikes instead of just getting the ones with "optimal geometry" that you already tried?
The "fastest bikes in the world" are readily available and no more expensive than big brand carbon. Or if you can't live without trendy frame materials, at least get a Mondraker and put an end to the complaints about reach.

If all the hordes of complainers and people who you claim " have tried better geometry " would buy Geometrons, that would be awesome. Maybe Nicolai could expand beyond a small workshop with a couple of dudes.
  • + 1
 @vanillarice19: no the 16 was a complete redesign from 14/15...Then another big change for 17..Still even the newer ones are somewhat dated by what we're seeing now.. Seat angles still quite slack.. Still a nice bike tho... That being said.. Watch for a new fuel release here in the not to distant future.
  • + 1
 @Iberian: but times are only a small part of the equation.. There's comfortability, efficiency(using less energy), confidence factors,etc...Also one ride on a friend's bike isn't telling the full story.. There's the getting a new bike and getting used to it factor.. Ie.. I'm still getting more comfortable on my sb130 and growing more into the bike.. When I first demoed it, I was killing PR's either... Again, I'm not saying older bikes are terrible.. But improvements are being made and progression is happening.
  • + 0
 @Iberian: That makes sense, anyway bike skills will always be more important than the bike (within reason, as you say don't compare an old school XC vs a new school DH on a downhill section). However if you have a bike with geo that you are more comfortable on it will make you faster especially on longer rides where comfort becomes a bigger factor.
It will probably take a week or two (3 rides ish) to get back up to speed for on most people after switching to a new bike so I'm not sure if going off a few minutes on a different bike is enough to go by.
  • + 1
 @Ttimer: I like to have choice. I would like a Specialized geometron or perhaps a Trek geometron in the future. For now I am sticking with Pole.
  • + 1
 @SintraFreeride: pole is doing some awesome things.. My eye is always on them.. Glad they're making shorter travel options now.
  • + 26
 Will make a great race bike for a hard charger by the sounds of it. Many will buy this bike as it is "the most" and regret it.
  • + 6
 I think this really is a "first ride" article. I just read another review that described the bike as rather easy to ride and quite lively and playful. Probably best to wait for a full review ...
  • + 4
 This will probably be me.. A LOT of bike, even though I'm an ex DHer that wants a DH bike feel. The real question- is the 29er just not as fun as 27.5 for recreational riding.... Going to buy this frame and try it for a year or so, Wreckoning isnt "floating my boat"...
  • + 6
 @FR33DOMdotCOM: Probably best if they just send us all to New Zealand to form our own opinions.
  • + 26
 $4500 for a Yari and NX? that is crazy talk.
  • + 10
 Seems to be the norm for any brick and mortar brand bikes with carbon frames.
  • + 2
 Straight up nonsense.
  • + 22
 2019 and threaded bottom bracket is touted as a feature. What has the world come to?!

We should've never moved away from them in the first place! #deathtoallpressfit
  • + 4
 bbinfinite.com
  • + 21
 Can I install the longer chainstay insert only on the left side? I want to help it turn left for NASCAR style enduros here in the states.
  • + 4
 Yes. Most of our downhill races are run in parking garages at night, so its perfect.
  • + 1
 This is an excellent idea. Soon you will see EWS athletes stopping before each corner, left AND right, in order to fit the appropriate insert and help them get round that corner 2.68% faster.

It's all about those fine marginal gains you know.
  • + 19
 $4,449 for NX Yari? Overpriced and this does not make the short or long list. Santa Cruz plays catch up but their spec is maddening, frustrating
  • + 18
 Crazy when Ibis is now seeming like a bargain for spec.
  • + 2
 @whambat: That is so true.
  • + 6
 @whambat: Comparing the X01 builds with aluminum wheels, the Megatower is $7200 and the Ripmo is $7000. Only real difference is Code RSC on the SC vs XTs on the Ibis. Both have factory suspension...
  • + 0
 @tgent: Ripmo has factory suspension. The Megatower is missing the kashima up front (GRIP2 dampener though). In the back it has a “shock for dummies” that can’t be adjusted.

I wish Ibis will bring out a true HD29. The Ripmo isn’t progressive enough and needs 20mm more of travel.
  • + 6
 @tgent: Yeah, but you can upgrade the suspension on an NX or GX ripmo and come well under SC prices. Wish more manufacturers let you pick and choose components.
  • + 0
 @wibblywobbly: Oh wow actually it's worse than that. The X01 build of the Ripmo does not have factory suspension for the $7000, I just checked on their website, it actually comes with Performance suspension! To upgrade to factory kashima front fork the total cost comes to $7400 on a Ripmo... That alone makes up for the $200 difference between the MegaTower and Ripmo. Also, many (including Pinkbike's reviewers) believe the new super deluxe to be very comparable to the DPX2 that comes on the Ripmo, saying this bike is specced with a worse shock is purely opinion.

Neither are cheap bikes, but all things considered, they are priced extremely similarly. BTW the Ripmo X01 build with the Factory fork and X2 shock upgrade is a whopping $7670
  • + 17
 "ribbed for aural pleasure" -well played well played
  • + 16
 Same bike every year
  • + 7
 How?
  • + 13
 So the lesson here is not to hold "name the bike" meetings at 4:30 on a Friday.

Good lawd that's a lot of bike.
  • + 12
 I heard the meeting actually happened at 4:20.
  • + 10
 Let me say this first: I had one of the first Bronsons and I absolutly loved that bike!
That said: for the price of entry-level Megatower C R I just bought a Transition Sentinel GX in Aluminium with a more progressive geo, premium shock, premium fork, premium brakes and that bike is so awesome! No need to upgrad (I did change the brakes so - Shimano guy). But still, wuhh, at least 1000$ less in every category.
  • + 10
 I'm not saying the Sentinel isn't a killer bike, but $1000 less for an aluminum frame is pretty normal.
  • + 13
 shoulda called it the highertower. Megatower doesn't sound right
  • + 12
 Sounds better than Trump tower
  • + 10
 @Srfntrf:

That would be a sic version:

Trumptower with gold color scheme. Orange accents. Kashima. Enve rims that crack on first ride. $10k+
  • + 10
 @WasatchEnduro: and you could sell it to a Russian oligarch for 3000% of its market value.
  • + 13
 @WasatchEnduro: 'We're going to build that bike and make the dentists pay for it!".
  • + 3
 @bikingblake: "shoulda called it the highertower". Then the next iteration would be the Rattower, since Josh is the highest...
  • + 12
 That seat tube is not 76 degrees, looks slacker than Hightower.
  • + 12
 Bottom bracket is behind the start of the seattube so they're able to cheap with their damn stupid "virtual seat tube angle*. Basically they put the seat at the height that gives the most favorable angle and call it a day. f*ck tall riders! Well, f*ck you too Santa Cruz! I'm not paying 4500$ for a frameset that doesn't consider a good front center balance important. Triggered
  • + 4
 @Naturel: Read elsewhere it's 69 actual. Which means for anyone of 6ft or more, it's going to be a hell of a lot slacker than they suggest. This bike seems a bit of a miss, when it could have been a real hit.
  • + 2
 @Naturel: Which 29er Enduro keeps the best SA for us tall folk? My Wreckoning is the same, loved the Slash but will not buy due to this as well. At 6'3" this is a big concern.
  • + 5
 @Naturel: Have to agree with you. It's an issue for us tall guys which is why I bought the Transition Sentinel. I use a 200mm drop post and this bike climbs amazing and well balanced and stable on the descents. The build kit is better value as well.
  • + 2
 I was thinking the same thing. OG Hightower LT sucked on climbs for my 6'3" frame. Auto wheelie. You'll have to have the extended chainstay setup for this it you are taller and go uphills worth a dang
  • + 2
 @nolson2: new Yeti SB models have more effective ST angle, not to mention Pole bikes, Geometrons, Transition Sentinel, new YT Jeffsy... many bikes with better numbers for tall riders.
I’m 195cm and 77 STa on my bike offers great pedalling position.
  • + 1
 @nolson2: Check out the Stanton switch9er FS....

Currently ride a Sentinel but next bike is the stanton.
  • + 12
 Vulture capitalist... awesome!
  • + 3
 Yeah man, god damned capitalism giving you all the brands and bikes to choose from... Not like the good old socialism where you got one shitty option...
  • + 2
 @epideme: That's not how any of this works.
  • + 1
 @DrPete: That's exactly how it works. Coming from a post-socialist country. There was one option of Road bike, one BMX few townies and no MTB... Probably hard to understand for people from US, but that how socialism works. Be grateful for what you have, nobody is pushing you to buy SC stuff or any other brand for that matter.
  • + 4
 @epideme: which country was this where the government forced you to buy one brand of bike?
  • + 6
 @DrPete: they didnt really force you but there simply werent many options to chose from...
  • - 1
 @winko: which country? Guessing from your flag you’re talking about communism, not socialism.
  • + 2
 @DrPete: Czechoslovakia. Nobody forced you, but if you wanted a bike you had no other choice. The bike brand was Favorit. And it wasn't like you could just walk into the store and pick one up. There were waiting lists for them or you have to had a connection in the store or bribe somebody. FYI Communism is the highest form of socialism. Nobody achieved pure communism yet, and hopefully nobody will ever try again...
  • + 1
 @DrPete: I know that it is hard to explain to spoiled American but that how real socialism works. It was the same for cars, motorbikes, meat, toilet paper etc.
  • - 2
 @DrPete: condescending AND ignorant. What a good combination.
  • + 1
 @Session603: Socialism isn’t communism.
  • + 2
 @epideme: my family is Latvian. My side of the family came to the US post-WWII and we had many relatives who continued to live under Soviet rule. Some fared better than others. They did teach me the difference between socialism and communism.
  • - 1
 @DrPete: I didn't say it was. I said you were condescending and ignorant.
You continue to prove me correct by making these asinine strawman arguments.

If you were even remotely capable of refuting epideme's points you would've done so by now. Yet here you are telling us where you're family is from instead.
  • + 2
 @Session603: if you’re agreeing with me, what is it that I’m ignorant about? And can you point out where I made a straw man argument? The claim was that socialism means you don’t have choice as a consumer. That is not a true statement. The commenter seemed to be from a former Soviet State, which was communist and not socialist. I’m sorry that’s condescending to you.
  • + 0
 @DrPete: I'm not agreeing with you. You can parse words about the definitions of socialism and communism all you want. The simple reality is that when the production and distribution of goods are controlled substantially by the government rather than by private enterprise choice for the consumer is diminished. That is an unavoidable economic truth. epideme and winko are correct. You are not.

Your straw man argument is exactly what you keep repeating ad nauseum. "Communism and socialism aren't exactly the same thing." Epideme didn't say that they were the exact same. He/she is wise and experienced enough with leftism to acknowledge that socialism is the stepping stone to the communist utopia. Deny it all you want,
Marx and Lenin said it themselves.

What's condescending is when you tell someone, "That's not how any of this works." When it is in fact how it works and that person you're speaking to has experienced it in person.

Spare me your bullshit apology. Epideme is the one you should apologize to.
  • + 1
 I just thought it was a funny play on words! The idea of everyone contributing and getting an equal share doesn't work. The world contains too many moochers. Like that friend who comes to parties or group dinners, brings a box of crackers and 3 beers. Then he eats all the food and 7 beers.
  • + 10
 A nomad 29er?? Worst kept secret ever!
To hell with those prices, i get the elite, boutique premium bs, just stop increasing the prices everytime a new bike comes out!!
  • + 1
 Well it is Bronson 29er...
  • + 5
 Santa Cruz sold out and now it's the new Specialized. That's right b*tches, I said it.
  • + 6
 It's the exact same price as the Nomad released 2 years ago...
  • + 9
 Will we get to a point when 'long, low, slack' is no longer 'long, low, slack' and becomes 'normal geometry'?

And that anything that isnt 'normal geo' then becomes 'short, high, steep'?!
  • + 5
 Aren´t we already there? If it isn´t "long, low&slack" commenters will outrage and call it "short, high&steep"
  • + 7
 I was waiting for this bike's details before deciding between it or the Stumpjumper Evo. At the same price point:

- "budget" carbon frame vs. highest end
- not even close with suspension
- Code R vs. RSC brakes
- Stylo cranks (at $6600?!) vs. GX

Say what you want about Specialized, but you're not allowed to make fun of Supreme anymore if you buy based on a brand name.
  • + 7
 Wait for the Supreme X S-Works collab to drop later this year
  • + 1
 The Stumpjumper sounds like the more supple (grip) bike.
  • - 2
 Completely agree. The Specialized is arguably more current on geo as well. When they stop trying to come up with gimmicks and put their engineers to work, Specialized can make a helluva bike. Meanwhile, Santa Cruz has to make something “easy to ride” for the dentists that buy their bikes
  • + 1
 @wibblywobbly: And as "gimmicky" it might be, I'm not going to lie and say the swat box isn't pretty dang nice to have.

Also @Connerv6 if only Santa Cruz didn't already do it Wink
  • + 10
 I love Santa Cruz but these prices are crazy. GG's Smash is looking pretty good right now.
  • + 3
 They are on the money for value, no doubt.
  • + 12
 Mehgatower
  • + 7
 I’ve gotta Bronson, it’s got smaller wheels
It’s made of metal not posh plastic
And it’s the real deal
The Megatower May have some power
But my Bronson is the Charlie
It’s like riding Route 66
On Dennis Hoppers Harley
My Bronson has that Shimano
That Megatower sucks on sram
Where the mechs are made of posh plastic
And often go KA-BAM!
But not with that Shimano
It’s clicks faster than Robocops knickers
And looks better than Mr T
In a tank, eating snickers
  • + 10
 Finally...it's here. All the speculation is over. The adjustability options are fantastic. Pretty nice @santacruzbicycles
  • + 6
 I had to double chek the date when I saw that name. No, it’s not April 1st.
Welle well. Looks very interesting, I love the numbers and adjustable chain stays. Now that seat angle is slowly getting steeper but I wonder at what sadddle height it’s measured. I guess it will be closer to 74 in the end, I’d rather be closer to 78. All other numbers are so perfect though...
  • + 5
 Effective seat angle is measured at the horizontal point to the top of the headtube.
Most people apart from the shortest riders will have their seat higher than the headtube so a bike like this with slack actual seat tube angles (guessing as it looks pretty slack) will end up with a slacker angle than the numbers suggest which is annoying.
It would however be hard to standardize on a measurement that accounts for seat height, this is why publishing actual angle alongside effective is useful.
  • + 1
 @maglor: do you know that about the Santa Cruz specifically? Because each manufacturer measures at a different point. I saw an interview with Ibis and they had a seat height at climbing position for the average rider per frame size that they used. I think it would be nice if those numbers were included in the charts.
  • + 1
 @whambat: Its hard to be 100% sure but every geometry chart i have seen that comes with an annotated frame diagram (including santa cruz and ibis) shows the reach and top tube horizontal lines coming from the top of the headtube (sometimes slightly above at an estimated stem height but not far away) this line then meats the seat tube and a straight line from this point to the bb is annotated as effective seat tube angle so unless all frame diagrams are misleading that looks like the standard measurement.

I think some brands have tried to give a more realistic number especially on larger sizes when the seat would be up much higher but as i mentioned it would be hard to standardize this as how do you decide how high the seat will be and geometry charts are made for comparison purposes so picking a standardised point like the top of headtube makes it easier to compare across brands, but having actual angle would help
  • + 6
 I am finding my own Seat Tube Angle Measurements matches with what Santa Cruz Published.
SC publishes 75 Degrees for the "Effective Seat Tube Angle" on the Medium BronsonV3 and my own measurements is also 75 Degrees.

However, I am shorter rider at 5'7" (170cm), for really tall guys of say 6'3" (190cm), I can see the "Effectice Seat Tube Angle" dropping below 70 degrees for the MegaTower because the Actual "Seat Tube Angle" on these newer SC bikes are fairly Slack, so the more the seat post sticks out, the Slacker the "Effective Seat Tube Angle" will be.

I always measure my own Seat Tube Angle to confirm what is published.
No doubt it is much easier to measure Head Tube Angle than Seat Tube Angle, as HT angle is easy to measure and it stays constant.
"Effective Seat Tube Angle" is hard to line up, you have to get a long straight edge ruler and line up the center of the bottom bracket to the center of the Seat Post Clamp when the seat post if fully extended to your riding height.
"Effective Seat Tube Angle" will always vary with the height of the seat, so the TRUE Effective Seat Tube Angle will always be dependent on how tall the Rider is.
It is best to just take your own measurements.

The way I measure:
- I put the seat at my riding height, which is around the height of the handlebar grips (usually I have about 25mm worth of spacers).
- I use a 3 ft (900 mm) straight edge metal ruler to line up the center of the seat post clamp to the middle of the bottom bracket.
- I line up my angular measurement tool with the 3 ft straight edge, this angular measurement tool also has a bubble level to get a precise horizontal.
- Doing this, I am getting 75 degrees for my Medium BronsonV3, which is what Santa Cruz published.
- For my Medium Ripmo, using the same measurement techniques, I am getting a whopping 79.5 Degrees for the Seat Tube Angle! Ibis has the Seat Tube Angle published at 76 Degrees for the Ripmo.

No wonder my Ripmo climbs so much easier on the really steep stuff. The front end stays down on my Ripmo easier.
Also keep in mind that the Longer the Chain Stay, the more balance the bike will be and the Front end will stay down easier. My Medium Ripmo has a 5mm Longer Chainstay than my BronsonV3 (430mm vs. 435mm). This is why the Ripmo is currently the Best Trail Bike of all time.
  • + 1
 I had one thing wrong in my post above. The ACTUAL seat tube angle on my Medium BronsonV3 measures 67 Degrees. I do feel bad for Tall guys who ride XL or XXL for these newer bikes. Their bikes must be really out of whacked and off balance due to the Front Triangle being so long. It amazes me that all these bikes have the same size rear-triangles for all sizes! XS to XXL Large all have Rear Triangles at roughly 435mm. That means the 110mm difference in size between XS to XXL is all in the Front Triangle! CRAZY! I am happy I get to ride a more Balanced bike (size Medium). It must be really hard for these guys to keep their Front End down when climbing really steep technical stuff. Also must be harder for them to weight the front end when charging the berms are any other turns.
  • + 1
 @HendersonMike: I would want a chainstay as short as possible no matter the size. The advantages are the shorter wheelbase and the ability to weight the rear more. It's still possible to apply sufiicient weight to the front. One can learn it, get used to it, and ride faster that way. But regardless of personal preferences. You forget that the chainstay of this bike can be switched to 445mm. Few bikes have a chainstay that long no matter the size.
  • + 1
 @DavidGuerra: People are getting hung up on front centre vs rear centre bike balance, lots of people have watched the vorsprung video about it and while it is a very valid point the main advantage of it being balanced is to take weight off your hands to reduce fatigue and arm pump, this doesn't mean it isn't possible to have a long front and short rear while keeping the bike balanced, you just have to weight the front more through your arms, if you aren't doing 10 minute EWS stages then why not choose short playful fun chain stays and just ride a little more aggressive on the front, this is why adjustable chain stays are great as the rider can choose depending what they want/need.
  • + 0
 @maglor: I agree, but it's not just about fun, short chainstays can actually allow you to ride faster. It depends. That's why the adjustable chainstay is a good idea (and certainly not new).
  • + 8
 That is a ridiculously big bike. I’m 6,3 I’d ride a large. What’s going on here? Am I a midget now?
  • + 2
 Yeah. I’m 5 11 and I’d ride an XL
  • + 4
 @TheSlayer99: I could ride a XL but it’s a tad bit big. You’d drown in that at 5,11.
  • + 0
 @thenotoriousmic: my current bike is only 7mm shorter in reach, and it has a 75 degree effective seattube angle, but I slam the seat forward so its effectively steeper than 75 degrees. Before I got that bike I was thinking about the XL Sentinel and the Large Evolink 158 though.
  • + 4
 Exactly, I normally ride a large at 6'. After riding the Sentinel with similar geometry, the medium fits me perfect.
  • + 5
 @dualsuspensiondave: I attempted to ride an XL sentinel down the street. It wouldn’t make a turn had to get someone with a ladder to save me.
  • + 5
 @TheSlayer99: try a medium.
  • + 0
 @thenotoriousmic: I'd ride a medium in this bike, the sentinel or the evolink, but I'd only buy the evolink in a medium and I wouldn't consider going much shorter than 450mm reach whatsoever on any bike. I prefer longer bikes anyways and my current bike (also a 29er) handles pretty similarly to the Nomad in a large.
  • + 0
 @TheSlayer99: Meanwhile, I'm 6ft 2" and would be on an XXL. Preferences.
  • - 1
 At 5'10" it looks like I would fit comfortably on a large.
  • + 7
 They missed the opportunity with not calling the bike Santa Cruz Babeltower
  • + 2
 I like it. Strike an arrow into the heart of the Enduro Race God
  • + 6
 A moments silence please ....................... for all the people that just picked up a high tower lt
  • + 4
 I just got one, But I am not as Remorseful as I thought I would be. The S build LT I have is 2 lbs lighter than the mega tower s build. Also, for 90% of the rides I do the Shorter travel,1 degree steeper Hightower LT is more than enough. The only times I would want anything more is the 3 enduros I race a year and collegiate Downhill races. Also My S build Hightower msrps for $500 less than the S build mega tower. It looks like a great bike, But I am happy with my purchase. I may of course be biased because I am fresh off of a week in Pisgah on it.
  • + 7
 Looks mint! ????
  • + 2
 Yeah, it’s cool and all, but I don’t think ‘ermagerd, need that!’. Doesn’t seem to bring anything new to the game. Just more wheelsize and travel.

Who rode a Nomad and thought ‘this is crying out for 29” wheels’?
  • + 5
 I mean, when I road one, it wasn't screaming to be a 29er, but I wasn't interested in buying one because it wasn't one.
  • + 6
 Everyone really tall who make wagon wheels look normal. Im so glad they’re finally making XXL frames.
  • + 1
 They should have called the N4 the V6 and called this the Nomad V4
  • + 2
 the lower link is a stable and solid pedaling platform for uphills, and super plush (even when bottoming out) on the downhills. if this rides anything like the nomad or bronson with 29 wheels, it's going to be one hell of a bike! mike, run less PSI and send it
  • + 2
 It seems like this iteration of VPP has really nailed it. I never cared for how firm off the top the last VPP was on the Hightower. It was jarring at times on smaller stuff (tho awesome deeper into it). Sounds like its better off the top now but still pedals well. Not sure about this particular bike tho.
  • + 1
 I didn't read this whole thread of comments and I hope someone else has already pointed this out but....the geo on the megatower is (+/- 1 mm here and there) identical to the geometry of a sentinel in the same size.....big up to Transition for having the marbles to release this bike nearly two years ago and totally push the envelope for what trails bikes can do.
  • + 5
 Great bike. Cheesy department store name.
  • + 5
 Oh hey look, yet another bike that weighs 31 lbs.
  • + 2
 You plan to just do hill climbs on it? Weight seems inline for what it is.
  • + 15
 @liv2mountainbike2: Na, just saying. 6" travel enduro bike with lots of suspension and a 120mm evil trail bike both weigh the same. Every bike is 31lbs. Carbon, alloy, 27.5, 29. GX, XX1, everything is 31lbs.
  • + 2
 @usedbikestuff: Pretty much! I was surprised when I got my 2018 ($5K) Devinci Troy carbon and it weighed 32lbs! WTH?! Pedalling uphills can be a chore, but the bike really hides the weight well! The extra weight is all in the wheels, so... on to some custom built hoops!
  • + 2
 @liv2mountainbike2: I love looking at fanatik's bike builds. an alarming number of air XL's and coil smalls all weighing in at 31lbs.
  • + 1
 I want one so badly Drool does anyone know if a Float X2 will fit? It’s unfortunate the Bronson doesn’t allow for one and I have a feeling it’s the same thing with this Frown maybe a DH X2 with a climb switch would be the better option?
  • + 5
 Megatower? Sounds like a Decepticon headquarters.
  • + 1
 Both this bike and the SB150 stuck with 12x148mm. If any type of bike should go 157mm, it's these long travel 29ers. As this just came out, I'm left scratching my head about future of 157mm. Is this going to be like 31.8 vs 35mm handlebars - 2 sizes in the marketplace year after year w/o a clear winner?
  • + 4
 I hope this means that that the OG Hightower and Tallboy will get updates soon.
  • + 1
 Yeah I'd love to see an updated alloy hightower
  • + 2
 Not sure what else the tallboy could get, its already no longer the same bike. I think it fits its spot perfect. Maybe downcountry out that head tube? haha
  • + 1
 Why is it every year the new fox 36 comes out and everyone can’t stop saying how great it is and how much better the small bump compliance is. Then about 6 months later bikes with the 36 are reivewed and the same reviewers say the forks are harsh and that they prefer the rock shox equivalent.

The only fox fork I’ve ever been able to get to have good small bump compliance is one fitted with a coil conversion.
  • + 1
 these prices are nuts, especially considering how close the geo is to the 29er capra that comes in at $5300 for a better build than their $8399 XO model....and with an extra 10mm travel.
  • + 1
 But for $8400, you get 31.8 pounds of bike. That's more for your money!
  • + 2
 Holy shit the top of the range AXS model is $14k CAD...I get that its a fully pimped out ride but it truly is getting to be insane what what the top shelf bikes cost
  • - 1
 buy a capra cf and add the AXS kit- it would be under 6K
  • + 4
 @moroj82: then go to Whistler, do a buncha blow, for the weekend with two strippers, and still have cash for a chimichanga at the airport on the way home.
  • + 3
 That has to be the most blacked out stealth looking bike I have ever seen, so sick.
  • + 3
 Wait is no one mentioning that some rich dude has his own bike park for a while?
  • + 6
 You can read more about him here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Dart. It's a crazy story.
  • + 4
 sweet... now you can mount a scope to the chain stay's picatinny rail.
  • + 4
 The future of gravel bikes.
  • + 4
 The name should be reserved for 36 inch wheels.
  • + 4
 that will be the ultratower, coming to your local shop in 2021
  • + 2
 @daweil: why not simply call it burj khalifa?
  • + 1
 @winko: that's a great idea lmao
  • + 1
 from a practical perspective. I would expect a bike named "mega tower" to be specd with a wheelset larger than 29".
cmon santa cruz...wheres the forward thinking in all this?
  • + 4
 That rocky twisty trail looks like a plush 27.5 bike would be the ticket.
  • + 4
 The bike I want: Mega Tower. The bike I can afford: Mega TR
  • + 1
 Mega trail Smile
  • + 2
 Santa Cruz Megatower
Nukeproof Mega (AM/TR) ( 290/275)
Guerilla Gravity Megatrail
Kore Mega (handlebar)

the word "mega" is very in demand in the mtb industry...
  • + 1
 @enduronuke: Super Enduro is wayyy cooler
  • + 1
 Buying because of name alone. Will cover "Megatower" sticker with "Megatron" sticker and finally things will make sense in this world.
  • + 4
 They all look the same
  • - 1
 purpose built enduro machine? that's what sc calls every new "longer lower slacker" over priced carbon heap they come out with. a stop gap?! they were claiming the htlt was exactly what riders were screaming for when it came out. stop coming up with new "decent, capable, buzzword" bikes to make a buck.
  • + 3
 When did steep become the same as technical?
  • + 3
 By George, I did not see this one coming
  • + 2
 HOLY CRAP Big Grin can’t believe Santa Cruz made a 29er Nomad! This is amazing!!!!!
  • - 2
 Well its a Bronson...
  • + 2
 Nice, but damn! People thought the SB150 was heavy, this weighs considerably more!
  • + 2
 How does it compare to a similar Bike? An Ibis Ripmo, Pivot Firebird to mention a Few.
  • + 2
 Geometry is in the database for all your comparison needs...
geometrygeeks.bike/bike/santa-cruz-megatower-2019
  • + 2
 Mike, when it's stiff, you don't fight it! It may cause irreversible damage in the future...just enjoy the ride!
  • + 0
 Did the approximate math and 27.5" rear with 29 front in "high" on the flip chip and 170 fork is still too low BB for my safety standard. Did SC make the flip chip very subtle so we wouldn't try it?
  • + 3
 Guess I’ll be ordering a Capra 29er then..!
  • + 1
 I’m a fan of this bike. I’ve ridden every bike Santa Cruz has made in the last 5 years and I’m excited to own the megatower! I’ll put it to good use.
  • + 4
 I’m down
  • + 2
 "At times it felt like I was fighting to get it to do what I wanted"

Um yea cause big wheels... Smile
  • + 3
 Now put your feet up and make yourself a brew. A job well done Santa Cruz
  • + 2
 Am I the only one here who dislikes mixing and matching suspension components?
  • - 1
 I would be pissed if I paid $8,400 for a bike and got a Fox 36 Performance Elite. I know SC has the best carbon and the best warranty, but that warranty is definitely baked into the cost.
  • - 4
flag liv2mountainbike2 (Mar 19, 2019 at 8:31) (Below Threshold)
 I'd be pissed having to settle for a Fox fork period! That is the first thing I change when I get a new bike. Fox forks and I just haven't gotten along since 2006 (especially 36s). It's a shame because I'm still a fan of their other products.
  • + 16
 Tell me how much faster the Kashima coating makes you, because that is the only difference from Elite...
  • + 3
 @liv2mountainbike2: That's funny, I'm the other way around. I've never had luck with RS. I'm not opposed to giving them another shot with my next ride, but I definitely favor Fox.
  • + 4
 @epideme: Bro it makes me at least 40% faster.
  • + 3
 @liv2mountainbike2: I think their 36 with the high end dampers have been known to be a little harsh off the top etc with the rc dampers. That being said, the new 36s with Grip2 is pretty insanely nice. Ultra smooth off the top and you can configure whatever you need for midstroke support. Hard to beat.
  • + 3
 @liv2mountainbike2: honestly I 1000% agreed with your stance in 2006, but you are absolutely hosing yourself by maintaining that mentality in 2019. Fox has had the better air spring and damper for a couple of seasons now. Sensitivity on the top, mid stroke support, and stiffness are all best in class now and you should seriously go try one before your next bike/fork purchase. Or don't, all high end bike components are so damn nice these days you can't really lose. But think about it.
  • + 1
 @ironxcross: Well, to be honest, my last Fox fork was a 17 Float 36 Performance with Grip damper. After a year of battling with it, I went back to an 18 Pike RTC. I rode several top end 36s last summer at Interbike - North Star, supposedly set up for my riding weight, and they were definitely plusher, but would bottom out harshly. Back to back ride with a Pike and everything was right again. I agree that it is hard to go wrong with any top end components these days, but I still don't like the feel of the Fox single crown forks. Now the 40s on the other hand... I get along well with those. Different style of bike and different riding style I guess.
  • + 1
 @liv2mountainbike2: its sounds like you need triple crown 36 from cris porter
  • + 2
 @liv2mountainbike2: I can absolutely guarantee that with correct volume spacers and air pressure you would never experience harsh bottom out with a pike or a 36... that's purely based on how they are set up, neither fork is so poorly designed that that is an actual issue once tuned for the rider.
  • + 2
 HAHA you guys are funny ! Arguing about a bike
  • + 2
 and yes Mr Wayne, it does come in black
  • + 2
 This thing would weigh like a tank in an aluminum version.
  • + 2
 Been waiting for SC to come out with this rig, looks great!
  • + 2
 Missed opportunity to call this bike the Highertower.
  • + 1
 Can I have a side of chips with my Mega Tower? Doesn't look like a session but it sounds like a burger!
  • + 1
 No funny cartoon adv. video! Whyyy?!
I just wanted to see one with Josh Lewis shredin’!
  • + 1
 Ctrl c Ctrl v ... any SC bike looks exactly the same now from 5 meters away
  • + 0
 Already picturing the kid with a purple shirt, goggles, and music blasting out of his fanny pack riding one on my local shuttle... Fml
  • + 1
 Coming soon. Updated High Tower and High Tower LT with same suspension platform.
  • + 2
 megatower? you mean megaletdown
  • + 2
 Can a Fox Float X2 fit without modifications?
  • + 1
 Apparently it can, although it'll might be hard reaching the compression and rebound adjusters. I think that's the main reason they use RS shocks, because the compression dial is at the top of the aircain.
  • + 2
 What bottle cage is on that black bike?
  • + 2
 Please send one to my MAGAtower.
  • + 2
 Where can i get me one of those ribbed defenders?!
  • + 2
 Deadly looking bike. Add 170mm fork and go!
  • + 0
 So I'm looking forward to a long travel 29er nomad
  • + 2
 Seems like the geo is finally up to date.
  • + 2
 what's a Super Deluxe Ultimate?
  • + 8
 A glorified Monarch
  • + 1
 There's definitely something going on with the Ultimate. Hopefully some more info soon with Taipei around the corner!
  • - 5
flag TheSlayer99 (Mar 19, 2019 at 10:17) (Below Threshold)
 @gmcgurk: it really doesn't matter whats going on with the ultimate, it still can't hold a candle to anything from Fox or Cane Creek.
  • + 0
 @TheSlayer99: No it definitely doesn't. I'm mainly curious about it for the Bronson since it's too linear for a coil, the X2 doesn't fit, and I haven't had the best experience on the Cane Creeks.
  • + 2
 Not that impressive tbh. That name is funny tho
  • + 2
 Why does the STA decline with size?
  • + 4
 Because the actual angle is less steep. So as the seat tube gets longer with each size it goes further back. The old effective vs actual STA challenge.
  • + 4
 It's because it is not the actual but the effective STA. It is measured with the seat at the same height as the top of the head tube. When the size gets bigger the stack increases so there you go.
  • + 2
 Megatower? that must named some Pinkbiker Big Grin
  • + 1
 Thanks for the video @mikekazimer looks like a load of fun! Wairoa Gorge bike park it is!
  • + 2
 They should launch a limited edition Power Rangers colorway.
  • + 2
 MEGATOWER = all your bases are belong to us...
  • + 2
 Threaded bbs are ridiculously expensive these days....
  • + 1
 Yt is looking better every day why is sc so greedy
  • + 1
 Looking forward to the Microbridge.
  • + 1
 This vs Pivot Firebird 29!
  • - 3
 I wonder how many of these SC is planning to sell?
Sooner of later people will realize it is more fun with short travel bikes.
It would be cool if they bring back the superlight rather than keep buildng bigger bikes nobody can handle.
  • + 0
 once people start riding again instead of entering their lame local enduro races... why pay to have less fun and feel pressured to just get the fast bike
  • + 5
 This bike is clearly for the crowd that likes gravity riding the most, probably does lots of shuttle or lift accessed riding, but will pedal when necessary. Based on how much more crowded the lifts seem to get every summer, I'd say this is a decently big market for SC to pursue.

Seems obvious they'll bring this same linkage to a ~140mm version that will better suit those who pedal more than shuttle.
  • + 1
 But how does it jump?
Wondering if i should take this or a nomad :/
  • + 1
 I like colors... but that's about it
  • + 1
 I would have named it MAGAtower
  • + 0
 Like "Pony Rustler" and "Ripmo", but much worse. Who comes up with these garbage names?
  • - 1
 So this is ~$1000 more than a yeti sb150 that comes with fox factory fork and shock. I must be missing the point somewhere as to what makes this so much better
  • + 2
 SB150 X01 TURQ with Carbon wheels (the "race" spec) is $8599 vs. $8399 for the X01 Reserve Megatower. so in fact it's $200 less but you don't get the Kashima fork (same internals) and the shock is different (RS vs. Fox). Other specs are about the same otherwise.

Frame only the SC is $500 cheaper
  • + 3
 @InstantBreakfast: a non-reserve X01 MT is $7199, so $400 less than the Yeti. Your original post is misleading, there’s no $1000 premium on the SC
  • + 1
 My 2018 Nomad was pretty easy to ride not pinned out. Wierd.
  • + 4
 27.5” wheels
  • + 1
 A brand new v10 like frame
is Santa Cruz changing styles?
  • + 1
 The people want aluminum frames. Feed the people!
  • + 1
 Another long travel 29er trying to be as bad ass as a Sentinel !
  • + 2
 That things fuckin nice
  • + 1
 Finally! a modern bike with adjustable stays.
  • - 3
 SC bikes have become boring to look at in recent years.Theyve certainly lost that boutique look and yet cost the same as Yetis, Pivots and the likes...This one is a big meh for me, doenst even sound like the ride is that special.
  • + 0
 It's awesome to see Santa Cruz leading the market with this innovative and new type of bike. Well done!
  • + 1
 Megatower burger?

Was that BK?
  • - 3
 You can tell who is going to buy this as a race bike and who has enough money to buy the bike from the comments section. Anyone who is fine with not having full fox factory on any of the builds is a dentist and has the money to buy the bike. Anyone who doesn’t want sram components on the bike is a racer who is going to buy it as a race bike. No privateer gets a bike without factory fox and says that they aren’t going to upgrade to fox.
  • + 1
 If you work in the tech industry you have the money to buy this also Wink
  • + 1
 I can only assume the Highball will be renamed the Nanotower.
  • + 1
 No Kashimi, No Deal
  • + 1
 The ‘MEG’ I love it
  • + 1
 Mines ordered!
  • + 0
 Similar to the Intense Carbine 29.
  • + 2
 Yup - Pretty much exact and 50% of the cost of the MegaTron. Geo specs are like-for-like with the Carbine 29 apart from 2 degrees difference with the seat angle. Megatower looks like a super awesome bike though.
  • + 0
 High vs Low setting is +- 0.3° ... why even bother?
  • + 7
 Because it plays on progressiveness of the shock rate.
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 @EnduroManiac: You are right, thx, somehow I skipped that..
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 I asked the same question. But it will account for the difference between a 160 and longer 170-180mm fork.
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 Nice
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 Looks like same front triangle of the Nomad with slightly different pivot point of the swingarm and different rear triangle. Cross breeding. lol.
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 Do you expect bike manufacturers to create a completely new frame design for every model in their line? Who does that currently? For example all Evil, Transition, and Yeti models share the same overall design, no?
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 @silkyrhino: Yes I expect them to, and they do. Different models might share the same look, but definitely have different suspension hard-points to make everything work the way it should.
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 @silkyrhino: Chill. It is just an observation. I am not criticizing it.
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 The top tube pivot point is a little further back on this, I think.
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 Looks like a flamingo
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 Comment 421 got a minute
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 I’m worried about this
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 Next step is an electric motor and it will compete with the Spesh Levo or Enduro. Match this place.
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