First Ride: Specialized Stumpjumper EVO Pro Carbon

Mar 5, 2019
by Mike Kazimer  



“Is there a carbon version?” That was the question that came up the moment the aluminum-framed Stumpjumper EVO was released last summer, and as of today, the answer is “Yes.” The bike's long and extra-slack geometry remains the same, but not only is the carbon version lighter, it there's now a SWAT box for holding burritos and other important trail snacks inside the frame. It also has a stealthy, raw carbon finish that looks even better in real life than it does on a screen.

According to Steve Saletnik, Specialized's Mountain Bike Product Manager, “Back when we launched the new Stumpjumper series, we decided to hold off on producing a carbon version until we saw how riders responded to the alloy bike. The aluminum model is something we all like, here at the office, but it does push boundaries a bit. As a designer or engineer, you never know if riders are going to like what you’re liking, so to speak. Pretty quick, though, it became clear that riders were embracing the alloy EVO….it was game on from there.”
Stumpjumper EVO Pro Carbon
• Wheelsize: 29" or 27.5"
• Carbon frame w/ SWAT box
• Travel: 140mm (29") / 150mm (27.5")
• Head angle: 63.5° or 64°
• Chainstay length: 443mm (29"), 440mm (27.5")
• Threaded bottom bracket
• 12 x 148mm rear spacing
• Sizes: S2, 23
• Weight: 31 lb (14.1 kg) / S3 29"
• MSRP: $6,600 USD
www.specialized.com

The Pro Carbon EVO model is the first complete model to emerge, with a price tag of $6,600 USD, and a parts kit that's well matched to the bike's intentions, including SRAM Code RSC brakes, Roval Traverse carbon wheels shod with 2.6” Specialized Butcher tires, and a GX Eagle12-speed drivetrain. Fox takes care of the Stumpjumper EVO's suspension – a 150mm GRIP2 damper-equipped Fox 36 Performance Elite fork is paired with the coil-sprung DHX2 shock.

There's also a less-expensive Comp Carbon model on the way, which will have the same parts kit as the alloy version. In addition, a frame-only option for both the alloy and carbon models will be available in the near future.

The one thing missing from the Stumpjumper EVO lineup are frame sizes for taller and shorter riders – there are still only two options, S2 and S3. That's likely to change, although there's no set timeline. “We are looking at ways to bring this style of geometry to a broader range of riders. How and when? We are still working on that, but it is something we are all very excited about doing,” says Saletnik.


Specialized Stumpjumper EVO Carbon
The carbon Stumpjumper EVO has the same angles as the alloy version, with either 140 or 150mm of rear travel depending on the wheel size.


Specialized Stumpjumper EVO Carbon
Specialized Stumpjumper EVO Carbon
I don't think Specialized's SWAT box gets the credit it deserves. It really is an ingenious way to store a tube, pump, and some snacks.


Specialized Stumpjumper EVO Carbon
There's no flashy branding or snazzy paint job to see here, just clearcoat over carbon carbon.


Specialized Stumpjumper EVO Carbon
Oooh, another secret compartment. A multi-tool pops up when you rotate the top cap, and there's also a chain tool and spare quick link housed in the steerer tube.
Specialized Stumpjumper EVO Carbon
Those ridges on the chainstay protector help keep the amount of chainslap noise to a minimum.


Geometry

Specialized Stumpjumper EVO Carbon
Specialized Stumpjumper EVO Carbon


Ride Impressions

I reviewed the alloy Stumpjumper EVO a few months ago, and the vast majority of my thoughts about that model also apply to the new carbon version. It hasn't lost any of its descending capabilities, and the 1.5-pound weight difference between the Carbon Pro and the alloy model certainly doesn't hurt on the climbs.

Out on the trail, the carbon frame feels more responsive, with a level of peppiness that the aluminum model didn't have. That's with a coil shock, too; an air shock would likely make it feel even livelier, although the ground-hugging traction of the DHX2 has been nice to have for the muddy and slippery conditions I've been riding in lately. I did end up switching to a 600 lb/in spring (the S3 is spec'd with a 550 lb/in spring) in order to get a little more support and avoid bottoming out too often.

It may be lighter than the aluminum version, but at the end of the day Stumpjumper Evo Carbon is still a bike that's best suited for steep, technical trails. Sure, you can ride it on mellow, flowy singletrack all you want, but that's like giving a competitive eater a single stalk of celery – it just doesn't compare to rocketing down a rugged downhill run, or polishing off 125 cupcakes in under 10 minutes.

The amount of travel is the only factor that slightly limits the Stumpjumper EVO's abilities in really rough terrain, but even then, there's not much this stealthy sled can't handle. That fact does make me wonder about the next generation of the Enduro, the Stumpjumper’s longer travel sibling - I wouldn't be surprised to find out that another revision of that bike is in the works.








336 Comments

  • + 217
 This bike looks good. I have nothing to complain about from looking at this bike. Shit, I may even buy one.
  • + 14
 It would be nice if they could make an S1 with a reach around 430mm. For the short riders out there.
  • + 231
 @endurocat: I'd like a bike with reach around capabilities too.
  • - 31
flag powderturns (Mar 5, 2019 at 10:03) (Below Threshold)
 Holy sh*t dude how many stumpjumpers do we need reviewed?
  • + 35
 I may drink the "S" kool-aid too.This bike is perfect, at least for the next few months
  • + 3
 @endurocat: It would also be nice if they made an S5 or 6, big enough for an adult.
  • - 2
 First time I've seen a ud carbon clear coat from a big company. Looks just like the layup on my Fs027 Chinese frame.
  • + 11
 bike looks awesome as does the allloy raw model BUT after testriding one the headtube angle is too slack for my liking. was tempted to get one as my next bike but did not get along with it. a pity as i really dig the look.
  • - 40
flag vjunior21 (Mar 5, 2019 at 10:45) (Below Threshold)
 Looks like a short travel Session.
  • + 5
 Small gripe - if it requires a 600 lbs spring it does suggest the shock is too small for the amount of travel it has. Bit like Giant trail bikes - I just wish they'd fit slightly bigger shocks
  • + 5
 I want one for the super steep techy trails and raw, straight, high-speed chunk in my area. But it would be a bummer on the tight, twisty trails in my area. Maybe I need two bikes.
  • + 4
 @funkzander: how long did you ride it?
  • + 13
 @IllestT: no, it´s a sign of kinematics that is not progressive enough for coil.
  • + 6
 Yeah but does it have a 36" wheel option?
  • + 3
 @funkzander:

Than take a look at the 2018 19 orbea rallon. Similar look and you can customize the colors
  • + 5
 They really are back in the game......now just make an S4 for taller 29er riders with the reach of the S3 27.5”
  • + 8
 I'd still take the raw alloy version, but I would like to have that swat box somehow.
  • + 12
 @Weens: I mean the reach on an S2 is between a medium and a large, and the S3 between a large and an XL. So a S6 would be like an XXXXL-XXXXXL on their lineup. But complain if you must.
  • - 45
flag Weens (Mar 5, 2019 at 14:14) (Below Threshold)
 @ehvahn: you're obviously short. Short enough that you've never had any difficulty at all finding a bike that fits. Short enough that 480mm reach seems like a lot. So a midget or a child. Your opinion on bike size is irrelevant.
  • + 8
 @funkzander: so maybe the standard stumpjumper is for you??
  • + 11
 @Weens: I would like to hear your opinion what is good reach for adult.
  • - 11
flag ripcraft (Mar 5, 2019 at 15:19) (Below Threshold)
 @Weens: Bully much? Let me guess, Trump supporter?

Way to be the lowest common denominator on pinkbike.
  • + 22
 @ripcraft: Yeah! Someone brought Trump into yet another mountainbike bike conversation! I was starting to worry it wasn’t going to happen.
  • + 16
 OMG.

But it’s Specialized. Did they not enforce/steal their patent some years ago and ruffled some feathers?

Don’t they dump straws into the ocean?

Bike looks great but where is the hate? I come here for the hate.
  • - 10
flag ripcraft (Mar 5, 2019 at 16:20) (Below Threshold)
 @PtDiddy: Sorry about that man, I probably should have left that out. Should have known it would only distract the people who need to get the message of that post the most.

No, that was not sarcasm.
  • + 1
 How about the price
  • + 14
 @gumbytex: you definitly don't need two bikes......5 is like the minimum number of bikes! 2 bikes? those are rookie number! you're gonna have to pump those numbers up!
  • + 2
 @funkzander: ya there’s no way you’d get used to something like that ever.
  • + 1
 @mizzter-b: yeah... That 480 reach on a bike like this is really odd for the largest size
  • + 0
 You know like when you find the perfect sports car for you....but there are already too many around? Can't buy.
  • + 1
 @endurocat: how tall are you? I am 15 and pretty short (5’4) and I just rode one and it felt perfect. (S2 27.5 model of course).
  • + 2
 @Weens: forget the reach. Get a bike with an actually steep seat tube when you have the seat at your pedalling height. You'll need an "insane reach" for it to fit, but it will fit.

I went from a 2015 giant reign in large to a new Bird AM9 XL and the cockpit is just slightly longer, but bthe climbing performance, due to the steep seat angle, is insane. I'm not even going to get into the downhill performance.

I'm never buying a bike like this stumpjumper because I can never ride an actual seat tube angle of less than 75 degrees again. If anything I need to go steeper still. Sadly there are only like 10 frames on the market that fit these criteria - Bird (AM9 and Aeris 145), Raaw Madonna, Pole (Machine, Stamina and Evolink frames) and the Nicolai Geometron bikes.

All aluminium, all niche brands. Yeti comes close with the new bikes, but it's still not good enough.

And before I get downvoted to hell, I'm talking exclusively about XL riders and frames.
  • + 1
 @Primoz: thats why i am tempted to buy a rallon. 76 seattube angle. sick of that slack ish
  • + 1
 @mizzter-b: if you want the reach of the S3 27.5" then get it and make it 29er by changing the rear shock and fork. I'm doing that with my Stumpy. Swing arms and shock yokes are the same.. only front triangles are different when comparing 27.5 to 29...27.5 is longer reach for stability and 29 shorter reach for easier maneuvering
  • + 2
 @funkzander: it's still a virtual angle with a slacker actual seat tube angle and you'll be nowhere near the 76 degrees at the desired seat height.
  • + 1
 @reverend27:

Yeah only your Chinese frame doesn’t go through millions of dollars in rigorous RD testing.

And that is no exaggeration.
  • + 1
 @bishopsmike: swat box design didn’t clear stress test so it’s carbon spec only
  • + 1
 @PocoBoho:

Ahhhhh you’re that guy .....
  • + 1
 I did. It’s currently in bed with me.
  • + 125
 6600 bucks. Carbon wheels. Performance elite suspension. GX Eagle. Weed Carrier Box. The right geo. The new Santa Cruz might be dead before it comes out. Especially if Santa Cruz continues their absurd pricing and trend of being a generation behind on geo.
  • + 70
 @wibblywobbly but the cool thing about getting a santa cruz is that you aren't supporting specialized
  • + 84
 GX eagle is nothing to be excited about at $6600... But overall yes, good stuff.
  • + 7
 What frame are you referring to with the outdated SantaCruz geo?
  • + 109
 @crsimmons: A coil shock with high and low speed compression and rebound damping, a GRIP2 Fox 36 fork, 30mm-wide carbon rims, Code RSC brakes and dialed geometry are more important to me than a derailleur I'll be smashing into rocks every ride.
  • + 20
 @crsimmons: I would rather put my money towards suspension and wheels. Drivechain can be upgraded for less and incrementally (and is easier to hide from your significant other!)...

For a bike designed for predominantly for downhills I doubt many are that bothered by the small weight penalty...
  • + 28
 But Specialized doesn't Supreme...
  • + 10
 @WAKIdesigns: I'd be happy to throw some red paint on it with a white logo and charge you 10x more? Let me kno... Smile
  • + 4
 @TannerValhouli: your jsut supporting PON Group instead the lovely household small time company ;-)
  • + 25
 Not sure what you’re saying about absurd pricing. The Bronson CC is $400 more and you get a better drivetrain and Carbon bars with the Grip 2 fork and super deluxe shock. Yes the specialized has Carbon wheels, but I’d take alloy wheels with good hubs over carbon wheels with cheap hubs.
Even in the lower builds SC and Specialized have very similar price points, the Bronson C R-Kit is $4300 while the stumpjumper comp Carbon is $4520 with a very similar build kit.
  • + 3
 @slimboyjim: Agreed and really the only weight of GX that is even noticeable is the Cassette. It is the only part I would upgrade on this build
  • + 13
 5200 bucks. Carbon wheels. Fox Factory. Full XTR. Whyte S-120C.
  • - 5
flag evaneisenhart (Mar 5, 2019 at 13:53) (Below Threshold)
 Totally different bike bro. Spesh has them beat. @skeen95:
  • + 35
 @skeen95: since when are dt 350s cheap hubs?
  • + 10
 @tpg512: cost as much as hope, and don’t insult hope on this site or angry mob will get you
  • - 2
 @tpg512: My mistake, forgot this was a pro build. You do get a 350 rear hub which is good. But the front is a specialized branded hub, Not a 350.
  • + 4
 @crsimmons: with carbon wheels
  • + 14
 @skeen95: honestly who gives a shit about the front hub. Specialized carbon wheels are great btw, I'd never trade mine for alloys
  • - 42
flag drivereight (Mar 5, 2019 at 16:32) (Below Threshold)
 Like you’re comparing Chevy- Spesh to a Ferrari- SANTA Cruz! Spesh is big brand, mass production, Santa Cruz is small production high end Co.
  • + 33
 @drivereight: Santa Cruz is one of the big boys, my friend.
  • + 3
 @skeen95: opinions are free, facts are priceless
  • + 6
 @crsimmons: if we are being honest, there’s virtually no difference in shifting between GX and anything above in the range. Downvote me all you want, but I’ve tested every option in the sram line up multiple times, and I would NEVER buy anything above GX. It’s just not worth the money..

Except if you are looking for a super light option, but then you would most likely not buy that bike.
  • + 2
 @Aprilfisheye: Well I don't even would want the gx or Eagle at all. Worst group set for me in the past year's. Smashed 6 eagle's , looked more like scratches to me but they all failed to work properly. Same time , same trails and only one SRAM 11speed would fail.
  • - 1
 @Aprilfisheye: obviously you don’t know much! I have used X01 for 3 seasons now. It is the most reliable and durable group set I ever used, never dropped the chain. Last summer I have used often GX and NX, these two are pretty similiar, but have nothing on XO1... Dropping chain misshifting etc.
  • + 3
 @epideme: That might just be an indicator of how well the gx and nx you used were setup. The only thing that really makes any real difference between GX and X01 is the shifter (GX rotates on a bushing, X01 on much smoother bearings) which is relatively cheap compared to derailleurs and cassettes which only effect weight, not performance.
  • + 3
 @TannerValhouli: Santa Cruz IS the new specialized....so the cool thing about getting a specialized is that you aren’t supporting Santa Cruz
  • + 2
 @TannerValhouli: I rode GX for the past year and went for a full X01 setup with a GX crank (aluminium FTW) on the new bike and there's no difference to notice at first. I only went for X01 because of the cassette and and because yolo, that's why. Otherwise GX is the way to go.
  • + 81
 *comment about cocaine trafficking and swat box*
  • - 2
 You beat me to it
  • + 110
 Why isn't Richard riding with us today? It's bad man, they found crack in his carbon frame...
  • - 37
flag Segu (Mar 5, 2019 at 9:36) (Below Threshold)
 And then you have the amateurs “Retired pro cyclist caught transporting cocaine hidden in bike tube”

cycling.today/retired-pro-cyclist-caught-transporting-cocaine-hidden-in-bike-tube
  • + 29
 @Segu: @Segu: Good morning, how was your rest?
  • + 15
 swat box smuggling was yesterday!
just add some water to your cocaine and it will be the perfect tubeless sealant. put the leftovers in some plastic and voila your new FTD the 'Snort Norris'.
you want some customisable bottomless tokens? just add ... you probably know where this is going.
  • + 2
 @keatonistheguy I want the drug smuggling model with a hermetically sealed SWAT Box Wink
  • + 6
 Missy Giove??
  • - 2
 @WAKIdesigns: you say a lot of ridiculous stuff on this site. this is oddly my favorite.
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: This is REALLY clever
  • + 44
 Want. You could fit so many cupcakes in that SWAT box. *slaps toptube*
  • + 9
 Said Mike Levy
  • + 35
 Damn, that raw carbon. Never thought I'd say this about a Specialized, but do want!
  • + 31
 Super cool bike. Love that a company as big as Specialized is putting out a boundaries-pushing bike like this. Credit where it’s due but...

$9219 Canadian. WTF?

Ignoring for a minute the fact that $6600 USD converts to $8800 Canadian at current market rate, this is just absurd. We’re talking about a carbon framed trail bike with a GX groupset and house-brand wheels, bar, stem, tires, seatpost, and saddle. Sure it has nice suspension components and the wheels are carbon, but $9219?!?????? Whatever drugs Specialized Canada is on, I want in on that.

The whole point of house brand components is increasing margin for companies and shops while lowering pricing for end consumers. That’s not speculation, that’s straight up fact. Sram GX exists to give manufacturers an option for a solid, 11 or 12 speed drivetrain that works nearly as well as XX1 for roughly 1/4 of the price. The catch is weight and some refinement, which feels like a fair trade to most.

At $6600 USD this bike is a bit of a rip off. It’s somewhat justifiable due to limited production numbers and the usual BS bike industry excuses and it’s not totally uncompetitive on price. The reality is that Specialized is making a hefty margin on this bike. Dealers? Probably not.

But $9219 Canadian? What the f*** Specialized? $4700-ish for the aluminum version was bad enough but this? It’s insulting. This isn’t Pinkbike readers complaining because they’re all broke-a** dirtbags. This is a bike company literally trying to rob people.

Specialized needs to figure out their pricing strategy, importing, and Canadian distribution because this is obscene. I don’t care how good it is or how “revolutionary” the bike is. If it’s that good then stop making the “regular” long travel Stumpjumper and recoup costs that way.

Stop ripping people off. Enough.
  • + 10
 Well I guess this is a small volume model compared to the regular stump, so somebody gotta pay for those carbon molds.
  • + 7
 Aside from the fact that it has more up to date Geo - it seems pretty on spec to compare with a Trek Slash 9.8 which is $7500 CAD.
Code RSC brakes and a Grip 2 damper in the fork. Seems like not much for $1300CAD.
  • - 10
flag steve9train (Mar 5, 2019 at 10:31) (Below Threshold)
 www.giant-bicycles.com/us/bikes-trance-advanced-pro-29

vs

www.giant-bicycles.com/ca/bikes-trance-advanced-pro-29

smart americans, like thats an oxymoron, wojld travel north for a weekend and save 3k on a brand new bike...smart lol...
  • - 8
flag jaydubmah (Mar 5, 2019 at 12:05) (Below Threshold)
 Totally agree! But it’s definitely NOT a boundary pushing bike. Specialized waited for other brands like Pole and Geometron to push the leading edge of geo, and then hopped on the bandwagon once they saw the concept worked and the market was receptive. They’re well back of the pack when it comes to geo design - after all, this is the company that changed the seat angle and head tube angle 0.5 degrees every single year to milk the consumer.
  • + 2
 @jaydubmah: They jumped on ut after geometron riden by 50+ YO dude took their KOM on their own test track lol. And you forgot about mondraker.
  • + 3
 Specialized bikes are always going on clearance at the end of the season. I'm sure most customers aren't paying full msrp. The smart ones like me let the big baller dentist types buy hot shit new bikes, ride them softly and sparingly and maintain them well, and wait til they sell them used on Craigslist a few years later and that's where the deals are
  • + 12
 Nope. Sorry, the component difference doesn’t wash. I went ahead and doubled checked Canadian retail pricing on a Pike rct3 on Lambert (Canadian distributor for sram) and compared it to pricing for the Lyric, a fork I know from experience is comparable price wise to the Fox 36. I did the same for Guide R brakes VS Code RSCs. And same with the price difference for the shocks.

All in all, $550-ish difference at retail pricing. Less than that at cost. Even if you give Fox a 10% price premium over RS it STILL doesn’t add up.

Geometry? That’s technically free. It comes with the bike no matter what. R&D? Sure, that costs but it’s amortized over your entire product line (ie: $700 hardtails sold by the thousands subsidize the rest of the line up).

There’s no excuse for this. It’s straight-up thievery. Don’t believe me? Go look at pricing for a Giant Reign Advanced 1. Carbon frame, GX Eagle, housebrand parts, comparable suspension and it’s $5299 Canadian. We can get nitpicky and upgrade the Code R brakes to Code RSCs for about $300, so call it $5599. That’s a difference of $3620, or enough money left over for another bike, or a trip to go ride somewhere for a week complete with luxurious accommodations. Or at least 10 heli drops in Revelstoke. Take your pick.

I can guarantee that you won’t notice the “better geometry” during your luxury riding trip and/or your dozen heli drops. Not once will you think “damn if only I’d spent all this money I’m literally burning in heli fuel on a bike that’s $3600 more expensive than the one I’m on now”.

“Geometry” isn’t an excuse for pricing a bike as if it’s an entry level Nissan Micra.


@nouseforaname:
  • + 3
 @somebikeguy: It would be thievery if they forced you to buy it. The very good excuse for this price is that there are people who will voluntarily pay it. And that's a good thing. It's jobs for people in US bike shops and Taiwanese factories. And a good laugh for those who know where to get a better bike at a lower price.
  • + 2
 @jaydubmah: Although this has pretty progressive geometry and comes in a raw alloy model, the fact that it does not have a 1500 wheelbase or 82 sta means it's definitely not a Pole/Geo. knock-off. Wink (Plus it comes in carbon)
  • + 4
 It appears that you’re asking for fairness. I’m an idiot, so here’s that disclaimer.

Specialized is a USA based company (even though “Specialized Canada” exists) and if they sell to in a country that has a weaker exchange rate, they need to recoup their costs. So then are they robbing you?

We all feel that pain when purchasing something from the EU, that is significantly more expensive for me to overcome that exchange rate. So what?

I’ve been on the opposite end of that when the US dollar was upside down vs the CDN dollar, and spent a lot more than usual to go ice climbing in Banff and to go to Whistler. Now it’s good, but that could change in a year.

Back to your point- it’s an expensive bike. The components are arguable. I get that.
  • + 9
 @mrgonzo: are you sure the smart ones didn't go to dentistry school so they could make six figures working 30 hours a week and afford baller bikes?
  • - 4
flag mrgonzo (Mar 5, 2019 at 17:45) (Below Threshold)
 @sspiff: how do you know I don't make six figures and I'm still a tightwad when it comes to buying toys for myself?
  • + 2
 @Mondbiker: Good point about Mondraker! Forgot about them!
  • + 0
 @somebikeguy: I think Speci is overall way to expensive for what they deliver. They don't make something special. The only thing here is the swat box. The price alone is laughable with those components. I really can't believe someone buy this. I rather buy a high-end frame for 3500€ my self and build what I want with it and even get more quality and special part's for that price they want.
  • + 2
 Think about it this way, the fork and shock on that bike retail (sum) for about $1500 so you're paying $5K for a carbon frame, carbon wheels, and GX group. I'd say it is pretty much in the ballpark of most high quality bikes these days. They could have spec'd a factory fork, but other than that the price seems about normal to me. I find more issue with these small companies that have been in business for a year or two and want top dollar. Though I don't ride Specialized (except for way back in 1997), they have always (IMO) been a very consistently reputable brand for mountain bikes. And thank goodness for the Fox vs Ohlins!
  • + 34
 I just take a big dump before my rides, makes my set up 1.5 pound lighter for free.
  • + 17
 A carbon frame doesn't make you constipated.
  • + 21
 @polarproton: The pricing does...
  • + 4
 Typical poos are between 70-450g, with the average Westerner [due to poor diet and lack of fiber] poo weighing ~100g.
  • + 6
 @motard5: My poos are much bigger.
  • + 5
 @motard5: If you want to come weigh my turds for proof, be my guest.
  • + 1
 @motard5: If you want to define my defecations go right ahead! You should change your username to 'Scat man' LoL You pay for postage and I'll mail you my turds.

BTW Are those daily total or single event estimates? I'm a 2 event/day kinda guy. Minimum. I eat an organic steady diet of right wing lunatics, and religious crackpots that I wash down with liberal tears...
  • + 3
 @motard5: on early ride days i normally get the good ol' triple duce in. by that time im absolutely 1lb+ lighter. if i dont duce its a bad ride, one duce is an average ride, double duce is good ride and triple is the perfect trifecta
  • + 32
 Nice bike, but $9000 CAD and you get GX? C'mon man
  • - 1
 and a lawsuit for free!
  • - 16
flag CircusMaximus (Mar 5, 2019 at 10:25) (Below Threshold)
 Total joke I agree. Next.
  • + 15
 1) GX eagle is good 2) This is the kind of bike where you're likely going to smash a mech a couple times a year if you're riding it for what it's intended for. Benefits of XO1 or XX1 pretty slim and would add a load to the price. I think GX is the right choice.
  • + 25
 @tom666: I'm not saying GX is shit, but when I'm paying AMG prices I do not want A-Class parts
  • + 13
 @ross005: Not Specialized's fault our currency is sucking it.
  • + 7
 @ross005: you know there’s a-class amg?
  • + 7
 @tom666: The ridiculous part is that X01 would "add a load to" the already sky high price of 6600$ (before tax). We are not talking about a min/maxing value build here, this is an expensive bike. XO1 and Fox factory bling should be included in the pricetag. Especially because they are using tons of (to them) cheap inhouse components already.
  • + 3
 @dj100procentenduro: yes but I believe they are referring to the fact that the A class is the a cheaper or lower end model than cars of the AMG trim level.
  • + 5
 So all you downvoters think gx is cool at this price? My kids Spawn is gx and it was $1500 CAD.
  • + 5
 @Ttimer: If you want a bike from a brand like Specialized to have XO1 and all the bells and whistles from your favourite brands you'll have the pay $10k+ US for it. That's just how much they go for. If you look at Yetis and Pivots with carbon wheels, kashima and full XO1 that's how much they are. If it goes for $6600 it's still a super high end bike but there has to be some level of compromise. They've got carbon wheels on here which is sick, code rsc brakes, the frame looks amazing and probably the best featured Enduro frame out there. Performance Elite suspension is high end and looks great on this all black bike. I don't think there's much to complain about at all. I can almost guarantee they'll sell out of this bike.
  • + 3
 @CircusMaximus: not the same gx. We have some Spawns as well.
  • - 2
 @tom666: Are you a spesh rep or something? Why are you so pumped that bikes are so f*cking expensive and aren't even equipped with the top of the range? 3-4 yrs ago $10k CAD got you the absolute best money can buy, same rig WC riders use, now its mid range...not sure why you think that's so wonderful
  • + 5
 @ross005: like Specialized has to do anything with your weak currency.... pointless arguement if you keep your head in the sand.
  • + 15
 Saw the raw alloy at Sea Otter last year and was waiting for this to drop. Pleased they kept the stealth feel of the ally with no big brand stickering. Looks aggro for a main stream brand.
  • + 4
 Can confirm the raw alloy looks amazing in person... pleased they made a raw carbon as well... Drool
  • + 15
 I imagine the new Enduro will have like the same geo as this bike but with travel in the 170 range. The question is how many of us would even ride this bike to its limits let alone need anything more gnarly.
  • + 4
 Tons - I'd beat the hell out of this thing for a while...
  • + 16
 Wow - bike of the year! I‘m not a Spec fanboy but they did everything right on this one. Perfect spec and great looks
  • + 0
 something is odd with that spring rate of 600 lb/min for Mike.. LR need to be kept low !! please!! put a big shock in there would ya
  • + 12
 Looks like a solid bike from a geometry, parts spec, unique detail perspective. Everything I'm looking for in an enduro bike.
  • + 12
 what's the point of their specialized enduro when they have a bike like this one. I feel like the enduro is a bit outdated now.
  • + 7
 Rumors are we might see a new enduro this year hopefully along with a new demo. We’ll just have to wait and see.
  • + 22
 over on that other, green mtb website, comments were saying that the leverage curve on the stumpys isn't very good; too harsh with an air shock, not progressive enough for a coil shock (Mike seems to think the same, having to up the coil weight). However, some guys were putting in a longer stroke coil shock, increasing the travel to nearly 6 inches, and somehow it changed the leverage curve to where a coil stayed off the bottom without losing suppleness off the top. Sounds like an enduro-killer with that setup.
  • + 3
 enduro feels like a xc whippet compared to the super slack stumpy evo
  • + 9
 @hamncheez: Makes sense - if you extend the travel you're essentially just extending the end of the curve, not changing the initial stroke (I'd assume they're going from 50 to 52.5 or 55mm stroke, which has the same eye-to-eye, so the same starting point) so naturally it would just get more and more progressive. Depending on how the ramp goes, I'd guess you might even be able to drop a spring weight in that case to increase initial traction and lower the sag point to suit.
  • + 19
 Well some time ago Spec had the Enduro Evo and it didn't work out for them... If they released it today it would be so Super Enduro. And still wouldn't sell... what sells today is too little travel for the checks that geo writes. Like Pole/ geometron: DH geo with little travel. Or most Downcountry bikes. Enduro geo with 100-120mm travel. And so is this bike. Super Enduro geo with am/trail travel. For some unexplainable reason, despite suspension getting absolutely fantastic, people just want less travel than what makes sense... I had this epiphany today. Pole is not a crazy, stupid long Enduro bike. It is simply a Downduro bike. A DH bike with too little travel.
  • + 9
 @mattwragg:

Matt I’ve been trolling the forums and plenty of evo owners are long shocking with greater eye to eye shocks so they can also raise the uber low bb. They’re basically building Enduro EVOs. Pretty gnarly. Just interesting that riders are going wild with the platform.
  • + 3
 @WAKIdesigns:

Wacky - every bike is gonna run outa travel or geo at some point. Pick one and be a dick about it.

The proliferation of geo in mid travel bikes is awesome. The Sentinel is just magic. Black magic. I love aggro geo in mid travel 150ish bikes. I’ll probably go evo or sentinel next bike. But I don’t see en Vogue geo as necessary for a lot of trail riders admittedly. It’s awesome to have options.

Also I’m a little uncertain about where S goes with the Enduro line now. Standard and EVO? Agree don’t think an Enduro evo would sell tons. Most riders are fine with less.
  • + 3
 @WasatchEnduro: I had a downcountry bike that wasn’t even close to “modern” numbers in the genre and it was already writing cheques it’s rear suspension couldn’t cash. When I upped fhe travel on my Lyrik to 180, I instantly felt how the bike felt livelier in the straight line through the gnar, only to become lazy in the corners or when it was time to switch the side of the trail to pick up another line. I personally want insurance, not this kind of a sht mate that will encourage me to take a shot after a shot only to leave me at the bar for someone to call the cab or cops as I fall under it. I want a mate that will carry me home.
  • + 3
 @WAKIdesigns:

It sounds like you need more downduro in your life. I’ll stick to trailduro so I can still feel the trail but at the expense of running a little short on occasion.
  • + 7
 @mattwragg: I'm running 57mm stroke, 216mm eye to eye with a -3mm offset bush, and run in "low" position. Gives same BB height (27.5" S3) as stock shock in "high" but 163mm travel. Coupled with a 170mm fork, you end up with static BB height of 335mm.
  • + 3
 @andyrm:

downduro AF!!!!
  • + 7
 @WasatchEnduro: considering how good suspension is these days (as long someone sets it up correctly - oops can that be the reason) I have a hard time to find reasons not to use it. CCDB is such an incredible shock that whoever misses “ midstroke support” and trail feedback should jump on it right away. My 160 bike equipped withit pumps the pumptrack better in open mode than my previous 120mm downcountry bike locked out. What I don’t get is why aren’t there uphillable dh bikes.
  • + 3
 @WasatchEnduro: I'll definitely take Downduro over "you absolute geek out in the workshop messing with offset bushes, springs and tape measures" ????????????

It's been really interesting to tune the bike over a few months, lots of great stuff being discussed over on another forum, wierdly many owners are naturally gravitating to very similar setups.

I'm interested to see what the long shocked versions mean for the development of the next Enduro too. Specialized will have to really raise the bar, no bad thing IMO.
  • + 3
 @hamncheez: and notice that the green mtb website got the shaft from the Big S on today's big reveal?
  • + 4
 @WAKIdesigns: My favorite part about my CCDBair is sending it in to get serviced three times a year.
  • + 1
 @Verbl-Kint: No, its on there
  • + 3
 @mattwragg: @hamncheez: @WasatchEnduro: Yeah, plenty of stuff in the forums... for instance www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=210787&pagenum=1#commentid6711678
@Brasher would be happy to give info... people have changed the rear to 52.5, 55, or even 57. Looks like a fun great tuner smasher... up to 163mm rear 170 front Eek
  • + 2
 Lots of travel (Enduro) definitely has its place if you ride certain terrain. Doing 2000m+ descents over endless chunky rocks and square edged hits will have you begging for every mm of travel.
For instance, riding from Top of the World all the way down to the valley on a Stumpy Evo will be super hard on your body. Same for many alpine descents.

Sure, pro racers have the strength to deal with that kind of abuse, but normal riders don't.
  • + 1
 @hamncheez: They got the news a lot later than the others. Even the european sites got ahead of them.
  • + 0
 The bike they need before the Enduro is a Camber with a 2200g frame (med) 65HA/76SA, short HT lengths and a 440mm rear centre. Maybe a max weight limit too. That's the bike I want to race XC on.

I think I might have given them the idea for the current Stumpy Evo concept so maybe they'll listen Smile
  • + 2
 @jclnv: they just released the epic evo
  • + 1
 @hamncheez: I'd like slacker without the Brain.

There's hardly any downside to the very slack HA of the SJ Evo. It climbs better than the standard bike. 65/66 HA on a 110mm bike would be so capable and easy to ride tech on when your rinsed.
  • + 2
 @hamncheez: there is a twisted metal thing around mine. I service it once a year.
  • + 2
 @hamncheez: Don't think the suppleness off the top has anything to do with the kinematics. It's the crappy DPX2 which is at fault there. Every bike I've ridden is better with an alternative shock. With everything backed off, and on the lightest tune, it still feels like way too much compression damping. Especially for lighter riders.
  • + 2
 @andyrm: Yeah? Does it clear the ST? I’m pickng mine up Friday...
  • + 3
 @mtbikeaddict: Damn... so many options. I'm definitely not sticking with 50mm stroke then.
  • + 3
 @mattwragg: you are doing it wrong. You should put a shorter stroke shock in it to gain vital 3-5 degrees of slackness. “Because we can”
  • - 1
 Why not just do a Transition Patrol which comes stock at 160/170? You don't have to mess up the geometry, you get a MUCH better leverage ratio on the rear shock, and you save about $1500 bucks and still get an XO1.
  • + 2
 @Thustlewhumber: Lies. You have to spend $6000 to get that fancy stuff on the patrol.
  • + 4
 @WAKIdesigns: Why didn't I think of that? I'll never be on trend at this rate...
  • + 3
 @mattwragg: I will give you a tip for the next one. Get an alu bike on alu rims, put it on Pinkbike Editors Rides and mention many times how important it is to have aluminium parts. I suggest Commencal Meta TR with 180 Lyrik. Thank me later.
  • + 3
 @WAKIdesigns: Dammit, I have an ali bike coming and I just drafted a story this morning where I say I’m interested to try carbon rims on it...
  • + 3
 @mattwragg: as long as it has 40-50mm of travel more in the front than in the back it is ok
  • + 10
 Re: the rear travel. I own a alloy Evo S3. I put a 57mm stroke Cane Creek IL coil on mine.

This made rear travel 163mm, combine this with a 170mm airshaft in the fork you have an absolute machine of a bike.
  • + 1
 How much does the frame/bike weigh with the coil?
  • + 4
 @Verbl-Kint: 14.8kg with pedals/tubeless. Not a featherweight however once rolling you don't really think about the weight. It's a great bike for everything really. Jack of all trades master of going fast AF!
  • + 2
 That’s what I was thinking. Longer shock, then overfork to balance. Voila, no need for next gen Enduro.
  • + 1
 how high is the BB now?
  • + 2
 @stiingya: mine is 335mm (27.5 S3) with a 170 fork and long shocked. Fastest bike I've ever owned - setting PBs up and down with ease, in a wet UK winter. You'll not regret it!
  • + 8
 Nice looking bike. While we've got rugged trails we just don't have the terrain to justify a bike like this, and it would take a lot of trail (like the review alluded to) to make this bike fun - for more than a few seconds here and there. When it's time for real DH we hit the lifts on our DH sleds. When we trail ride, we ride trail bikes. Sure, almost every trail has a few black diamond sections, but not enough to make lugging a bike this around on the rest of the ride worth it. I'd sure like to see, and ride, all these trails people have access to that require such burly rigs. With the number of big hit bikes entering the market every day you'd think that 90% of what people are riding is black diamond. Even the hardest non-lift assist trails I've ridden the vast majority of ride time is spent on easier stuff.
  • + 10
 If 150lb guy needs 600lb/in spring, average sized rider pretty much has to get the air shock.
  • + 5
 I wonder if that's why they haven't released a size XL model yet.
  • + 2
 I’m on one of these. I’m 105kg and only 650lb puts me at 30% sag with 1 turn preload. So old mate has bricks in his camelback or hasn’t stepped on the scales in a while.
  • + 6
 Specialized's pricing seems insane. $6,600 for Fox Elite and GX? I paid $2,999 for the same components on my Commencal Meta AM. I upgraded wheels to I9, so that's $3800 all in. And mine still ways 31 pounds as an aluminum bike.
  • + 1
 Why you have been down voted for your comment is ridiculous. You have s very good point.
  • + 6
 Where is my P.Series inspired S-Works Stumpjumper EVO Pro Trail hard-tail in faded metallic maroon with a 140 fork dropper dual rings XT drive SRAM Breaks and 26" carbon wheels? I have asked repeatedly for my bike to be built in time for my birthday. I'm getting worried that is not coming. I give zero shitz about what you make it out of..

But, steel would be ideal. (size M, sub 25 lbs, sub $2500 usds)

Thank you, I love you. Make it happen Specialized or I shake the world.
  • + 4
 I know whats not going in the Swat box, Money cus at $6,600 USD you wont have any especially after you try to get a bit of beef off 31lbs no pedals, which means its probably closer to 32lbs no pedals.
The magic of carbon fibre.
  • + 6
 Put another way, what makes this bike worth $2300 Canadian more than the “regular” long travel 27.5 Stumpjumper with a comparable GX build?
  • + 1
 Geometry.

Now "if" someone figured out an angleset for the "regular" Stumpy then you could over fork it, slack the HT, steepen the ST and have "almost" as good of a bike. (No angleset tho, I had this idea crushed last summer. Was looking because the Aluminum Evo didn't come in a real XL)

But the Geo on the Evo would pry still be a bit better...?
  • + 1
 @stiingya: Just with short reach and short CS, so yeah, something completely different.
  • + 1
 @Mondbiker: Also Seat tube angle, headtube angle along with reach, stack, front center, rear center. BB height; you know just Frame Geometry.

not like that really matters to anyone... Smile


Pretty much every review says how much better all around the regular Stumpy is? I only rode one for two days, but for sure in the "low" setting I had to slam the seatpost all the way forward. So for me in the XL I felt like the seat post angle on regular Stumpy wasn't steep enough. And for sure I'd have liked to have more fork travel, the stiffer fork, etc. So essentially the EVO looks like the better ride to me. (now that they are making it in larger sizes)

Just the near 7000 dollars with tax thing...
  • + 3
 People tend to shit on Specialized but they have become more mellow and reasonable for the past few years where they have started to listen to the complaints or needs of the customer.

Hell, I got a brand new Stumpy 6fattie last year for $1900 USD with nothing much to complain about.
  • + 3
 DAM! Now that's a sweet looking ride....

Doesn't look like it lost much weight moving to Carbon, but at least the sizing is "workable" for XL. Still bummer it ends up being a compromise and the 27.5 has better sizing than the 29er.

BUT, I still think the RAW Aluminum was better looking!!! Smile
  • + 3
 1.5 lbs isn't much?
  • + 5
 @mtbikeaddict: TBH I didn't read that till after I posted. Didn't seem like it was that much lighter? (memories going I guess)

BUT......Unless it was on your wheels would you even notice? I mean does your bike handle better as your water bottle gets empty?

(funny, we pay all the money for carbon weight reduction and then put a water bottle on it and all your tools and junk in the SWAT box and you just ended up with the same weight as your freeride bike from 05? Smile )

WAIT, do people do that already? Stuff weight in peoples SWAT box when they aren't looking? That would be awesome to get to the top of a huge climb where everyone takes a break. And then reach into your buddies frame cubby and pull out a RedBULL.... Smile
  • + 2
 @stiingya: Well in that case why mention weight at all lol... but that last bit... stuffing stuff in others' SWAT boxes, that's brilliant. Razz
  • + 7
 Reads about cup cakes, checks who wrote it...
  • + 8
 I prefer my alloy one
  • + 5
 Same. Raw
  • + 3
 @bedwards13: It’s paint.
  • + 1
 @jclnv: makes me wonder how it will look after it gets thrashed around a bit.....
  • + 1
 Me too.
  • + 3
 @mikekazimer What are you weighing in at these days? I have a TTX on the way for my EVO comp and I ordered a 502 spring. I sit at 160lbs on the bike and I tend to like it a little stiff. 600lb spring seems like alot but I know the stumpy has a high leverage rate
  • + 2
 I'm about 160 lb. The 550 spring gave me around 30% sag, but it felt like it was sitting too deep into its travel for my liking on rougher trails - switching to the 600 did the trick.
  • + 1
 @mikekazimer: Awesome! thank you for the response. Ill get a 600lb spring on order
  • + 5
 sounds like a coil shock on this bike is a no go for heavier riders. Seems like a high leverage rate.
Currently running a 550# on my Jeffsy and I’m 230lbs. 2.25 travel shock with really progressive suspension.
  • + 2
 @mikekazimer: Thanks. That's how much I weigh too. Thanks for the insight.
  • + 1
 What stroke length are you going for, I've order a ttx 210/52.5 with a 480 spring.
  • + 2
 @fussylou: I got a 210x55, should give me 157mm rear travel. I ended up changing my spring order to 571, according to what @mikekazimer has tried, should give me just under 30% sag
  • + 4
 A bit of hype about pushing boundaries and all that, but maybe they didn't notice that the Transition Sentinel was rolled out 2 years ago? ...and of course, in Washington state you don't need a SWAT box.
  • + 3
 Seems like most releases have people complaining about the price. How about, just not buying the bikes, or buying something you can actually afford? No one's forcing you to buy carbon frames, or the latest and "greatest"... I've been on my same frame since 2014 and am dreading the day that I need to replace it.
  • + 1
 The problem is the industry is still massively over charging for carbon products. You can get a similar specced bike for half the price of this. Thats the issue, not affordability.
  • + 3
 @Matt76: So... Don't buy them. Buy something that's "worth" it to you...
  • + 4
 @muyguapa: I wont. And i will!
  • + 3
 Been playing on one of these for a few weeks now - I can confirm it is all kinds of rad. Been on Enduros for the past few years, which I loved, but the carbon Evo 29er is a weird mix of more assured on steep trails but more playful at the same time. Climbs great too. This Sunday's ride gave it a good test www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGvZS6K_vJc
  • + 4
 The alloy EVO is the first Spesh in many years that I will look for on the used market. This one will be out of my price range even when used. Carbon, meh.
  • + 2
 I am certainly not a weight weenie by any means, but it seems like bikes are getting heavier every year. I get that moving to 29" wheels adds some weight, but 31 lbs (~32 with pedals) seems on the heavy side compared to bikes of similar travel less than 10 years ago. My Large 2012 Scott Genius LT was just around 30lbs at 180mm travel, and my current Giant Reign with 170 and Saint components is just over 31 lbs. Hell, my wife's Intrigue (Trance) is just over 27 lbs with 160mm travel without even trying to shed weight.

Newer bikes that use carbon everything are still weighing over 30 lbs. I get the advantage of carbon is not simply the weight but one would expect carbon components to drop the weight considerably. It just doesn't seem to be the case.
  • + 5
 have you heard about this cool new thing called budget eagle drivetrain?
  • - 1
 @Mondbiker: I wouldn't think it is any heavier than xt from 7 years ago. Not enough to offset a carbon frame, wheels, and bars.
  • + 1
 My thinking exactly - waaaay too heavy. Don't know where the weight is coming from, but even with 1300 g tires, similar bikes (Ripmo, whatever the evil 29er 140 bike is called, etc) are in the 28-29 lb range. I just don't see where the weight is going . . to be fair, the remedy and slash Treks are similarly heavy . . .
  • + 2
 @Maestroman87: you wouldn´t think but it is much heavier, not that hard to compare 10speed XT with this shit, talking about 200grams in the very wrong place, a lot heavier cassette that cost 3 times as much too, dreamy.
  • + 7
 This was unexpected.
  • + 3
 To some it may look super boring in full black, but there is one thing for sure - black will never go out of of fashion and mixes well with any kind of 'glow in the dark' pants you will throw at it.
  • + 2
 Dope bike for sure but for the love of Bob, spec the evo's with with a 160 fork! I'm pretty sure this is going to one of the first upgrades anyone would make on this bike I mean I know I would.
  • + 0
 Get a smashpot instead.
  • + 1
 "[...], it there's now" Please PB let me proofread your articles for errors like this in the first few sentences of the review. I know it's mountain bike journalism but it's made better by holding yourself to a higher standard!
  • + 1
 I've been waiting for the carbon version of this for awhile now, looks damn good. I've got a little time on the alloy s3 29er and it is a very balanced bike and easy to ride fast. Seems to crave a coil as it needs a high spring rate due to leverage. I wonder if the dhx2 specced has a spacer in it like the stock air shock did? Is easy to then convert to 55mm stroke netting 154mm of travel or so.

@mikekazimer Would you care to compare this to the Yeti SB150? Pretty similar bikes in many respects. I'm certainly shopping the two. Have on ride on each. Like the rear tire clearance of the Evo better but SB150 suspension is hard to beat.
  • + 1
 I think that because the bike is rather radical in terms of geometry (at least compared to the regular Stumpjumper) specialized wasn’t sure that it would be well received. Therefore they have started off with just two sizes that are roughly equal to medium and large.
  • + 2
 I'm curious to know how many people riding a 400mm seat tube (let's call this a small, medium if we're being generous) need a 470mm reach? That's the equivalent to many XXLs in 2016 or XLs in 2017/18.
  • + 5
 God damn that guy was a champ with those cupcakes!
  • + 3
 I'm slightly disgusted but also impressed.
  • + 2
 @bsavery: dispressed
  • + 1
 Insane. 125 cupcakes in 9minutes! 12,000+ calories. His pancreas must have been working overtime releasing all that insulin..
  • + 5
 Pretty slick package here. Not cheap, but a nice spec too.
  • + 3
 Also the alloy frame is now for sale in the NA Speci website- 2000USD. Same price as most Transitions/ Santa Cruz frames.
  • + 0
 I own a 2019 Stumpy 29erand Im super happy about its performance but I ve been waiting for the EVO carbon to come out.... After seeing the price I ve lost my interest...
Why carbon wheels?? They should rather make it more affordable...
  • + 5
 Don’t worry, They’ll have the carbon comp evo out soon complete with mediocre nx drivetrain for $5k.
  • + 4
 Just looked at the Canadian pricing on their site: $9,219.00 LOL no way.
  • + 4
 Always have to swat the box!
  • + 2
 New Enduro will look like the proto DH bike Loic and Finn are riding in NZ right now. Interesting to see what the final geo numbers end up at for the big brother
  • + 0
 Sorry, but for me this is too much bike for everyday XC riding.
I've been downsizing for a many years now as suspension tech has improved greatly lately.
These days 130F/R can crush most everything that requires pedaling.

people may downvote me but I don't care.
this is how I do it at 55yrs old...just saying.

old hardtail specialized p-2 for pumptrack/skatepark
Trek fuel ex 130f/r for normal riding
Standard Turbo levo for DH, Park, Adventure trips and riding around town.

E-bike haters can eat their helmet ;P
  • + 3
 @TheDentists let me know next year when you have your '2019 evo pro' up for sale I might be able to stretch to 1/2 price...
  • + 2
 495 Reach sounds pretty good for a 6'6" guy!

Cant wait for the price of the comp model (cause there was nothing wrong with the Aluminium ones spec)!
  • + 2
 Thanks PB! Waiting patiently for the Epic Carbon Comp review I know you guys will be doing!
  • + 3
 Id buy the alloy one. Half the price, looks just as good.
  • + 1
 Looks better IMO. But the carbon looks sweet too.
  • + 3
 Spesh is building a cutting edge bike here. Impressed and I LOVE SWAT.
  • - 1
 In the UK, the pro model enduro which was an equivalent spec was £4800 in 2017. Two years later its £6800.

Thats a 40% increase! Sorry but nothing has gone up thag much in two years. Brexit added 10% and greedy S added 30% ?
  • + 0
 Another price increase coming pre summer post brexit with various brands is a fear
  • + 3
 Cool bike, but it's not for most of us.
  • + 3
 Nice bike, but I'll take the aluminum version and pocket the extra cash.
  • + 3
 I guess this is the trail down category.
  • + 2
 Price is a bit steep for gx drivetrain. Definitely waiting for that carbon comp to come out though!
  • + 3
 This is where you put your enduro cheese!
  • + 2
 That cupcake video was pretty solid. The cakes were small, but so much icing sugar...
  • + 2
 Not familiar with spesh's pricing - how much would the ally frame run for when released??
  • - 1
 2000 dollars obvously, soooo, yeah I will pass.
  • + 3
 First time I like a Specialized.
  • + 2
 9200$ CAD, GX parts.... no thanks. There are better and cheaper options out there
  • + 3
 Damn specialized, stop making me want to sell my enduro!
  • + 2
 Deity Knuckleduster grips on a Specialized !?!? Interesting.
  • + 2
 I'm hoping this isn't priapism and i'm just excited about this bike....
  • + 2
 My favorite part: It comes stock with Sensus Lites!
  • + 2
 So does anyone want to upgrade and sell me their alloy?
  • + 1
 Hey now! Can we start a debate on 27.5 Evo vs. 29er Evo!? Anyone get to ride em both?
  • + 2
 And people were ranting about the CC Bronson being ”overpriced” LOL
  • + 2
 Frame only would have been appreciated...
  • + 2
 Honestly I care more about that cupcake video than this bike.
  • + 1
 I don't love the brand but this bike looks dope numbers wise and esthetically. Nicely done.
  • + 2
 Sooooo what's gonna happen to the Enduro??
  • + 5
 It's gone! They are redoing it! The current version needs alot of work....
  • + 2
 How do I get one of those 210x50 shocks?!?!
  • + 4
 Visit your favourite eshop, type 210x50 into search bar, put the product you like into basket. Go to checkout and pay by your preferred method.
  • + 2
 Should make the SWAT box big enough too fit a motor & battery?
  • + 2
 What's the fork offset? Doesn't look like much which is good!
  • + 4
 44mm.
  • + 1
 Cant decide between 27.5 and 29
  • + 0
 Where's the Hot Fuchsia color option? Isn't Santa Cruz riiiiight over the hill from Specialized?
  • + 1
 So does anyone want to upgrade and sell me their alloy?
  • + 1
 SICK AS FUK, love it, albeit its a far cry from the original stumper.
  • + 2
 Don’t think about this
  • + 2
 Sexy AF!
  • + 1
 63.5 HA for a trail bike?
  • + 2
 Looks nice.
  • + 2
 Megh'
  • + 2
 Poor spec for the price,
  • + 0
 The Le Sal Peak does. Seems like the big "S" is hoping for people to burn money.
  • + 2
 @sbrdude1: If they did an XXL Le Sal Peak. HTT matters! Smile
  • + 2
 @sbrdude1: LOL, that was supposed to say TTL... the Le Sal seems to have really modern geo, but they didn't extend the front center to go with that super steep seat tube angle. Granted, I've never rode one. But since there isn't one at a dealer near me I'm gong to have to judge by every other bike I've felt comfortable on and say they need a XXL "stretch" version???

Cool bike tho!!!
  • + 1
 @mswinney - It's one of the better deals on the market. A Ripmo with aluminum wheels and similar spec is $7k USD. Same with Santa Cruz, and others. The Specialized pricing is right between the consumer direct brands and the other high end brands.
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 @dualsuspensiondave:

not quite, Dave.

A GX Ripmo upgraded to a factory fork and X2 is $5,769. It doesn't cost $1200 to upgrade the brakes (Trickstuff?!?!) but would cost about that to upgrade to their carbon rims w/ house brand hubs ($900) and move up to Code RSCs from the deore 4 pots.

A similarly specced Ripmo with carbon wheels but slightly better suspension is $7k, so $6,600 on the EVO with perf elite suspension looks about right.

Not a great value but definitely market rate for a major brand selling in shops.

I wouldn't pay it but I do like the bike and am considering the $3600 comp model. We'll see how much of a premium spesh puts on the carbon comp once it comes out.
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 @WasatchEnduro: First, a GX Ripmo doesn't have near the part spec. The closest to compare apples to apples would be the XO1 Eagle Ripmo, and even that has XT brakes instead of Codes, and aluminum rims at $7099.
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 @dualsuspensiondave:

David - what i said (err, typed) is self explanatory. I'm sorry if you don't understand it. The bottom line is this bike is not a better value than a comparably specced Ripmo. It's just a fact not a statement for or against either company. Specialized does not compete based on price, at least for carbon bikes.

As an example and as I've said before: NX Sentinel carbon = $4k, NX Ripmo = $4.2k, NX Stumpy carbon $4.5k .

I do appreciate that Specialized is still offering aluminum models and specifically in this platform. The aluminum comp evo looks like great bang for the buck.

Also, no hate, I like your Nomad.


But I do appreciate them offering a progressive shreddy platform in aluminum with sensible build at $3,620. Which may be my next bike
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 @stiingya: Ride one. They're pretty awesome. Crazy that a small new direct to consumer brand can make such a great bike.
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 @stiingya: Wider bars and a shorter stem fix a lot of that problem. They ride great by the way and pedal better than the current Enduro 29 or the current bike being reviewed,
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 @sbrdude1: ok you've convinced me. I'll head down to a shop tomorrow and test in out...

Oh yeah...
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 @stiingya: Rubber side down man!!!
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 SBC has made a carbon version of the stumpy evo like every year since 2011 right?
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 it looks like a session.
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 I love everything about this bike on paper. I’d love to give it a try
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 S4
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 Its hard to buy a specialized, but they are always pushing; worth a look
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 I will buy it!
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 Will they keep the awesome raw carbon look or are they going to plaster S-WORKS in gaudy paint all over that shit?
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 I'm thinking since it's not a "s-works" , they will probably leave the "s-works" stickers off of it...
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 @johnd2: Hmmmm....good point. #logic.
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 I have the 2019 regular Stumpjumper S-Works. The frame is black and S-Works is written under the down tube in what is possibly the darkest shade of almost-black that I've ever seen.
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 The only Specialized I’ve liked . Still not giving them my money though. Middle finger
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 PB bike of year ?
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 Looks Like a Salsa!!!
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 Man that's a gay piece of overpriced shit
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