First Ride: 2022 Trek Rail 9.9 - More Battery Power & Updated Geometry

Oct 28, 2021
by Matt Beer  




If there was ever a bike that was ready for anything, the new generation of the Trek Rail 9.9 would be it. Accompanying the 150 mm travel carbon frame, with geometry inspired by their Slash enduro bike, is the Bosch CX motor and 750 Wh PowerTube battery that delivers a 125 Wh power boost compared to the previous generation. The bike is spec'd with two 29" wheels, but thanks to a flip-chip adjustment a 27.5" rear wheel can be fitted in the high bottom bracket setting.

Retailing for a jaw dropping $13,499 USD, our size large Rail 9.9 weighed in at 23.78 kg / 52.4 lb, without pedals. The first thing that you'll notice against the flashy red foil graphics and candy paint are more blinking lights. This no-holds-barred build has all the carbon and latest MTB tech, including SRAM AXS electronic shifting, TireWiz, and all new AirWiz pressure sensors.

Trek Rail 9.9 Details

• Wheel size: 29" (27.5" rear compatible)
• Travel: 150 mm rear / 160 mm front
• Carbon frame with magnesium rocker link
• 1.8" tapered steer tube
• 750 Wh PowerTube Battery
• Bosch Performance Line CX Smart System
• ABP suspension design
• Knock Block 2.0
• SRAM AirWiz suspension pressure monitors
• 64.2º (LO) / 64.6° (HI) head tube angle
• 76.7° (LO) / 77.1° (HI) seat tube angle
• 448 mm chainstays
• Weight: 23.78 kg / 52.4 lb (size LG)
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL
• MSRP: $5,599 - $13,499 USD
trekbikes.com
Brand new from SRAM, the AizWiz pressure monitors on the 160 mm RockShox ZEB and Super Deluxe Ultimate RT3 keep track of the suspension's air pressure, operating just like the TireWiz units found on each wheel. The lights blink green when set to the desired pressure and flash red if it is beyond the upper or lower limit, making it easier to grab the bike and go ride with peace of mind. These use the SRAM AXS app and are a breeze to sync and set to your preference. By simply moving the bike to "wake up" the electronics, the app will detect the sensors.

Bontrager parts round out an almost complete SRAM spec on the 9.9, such as the tires, cockpit, Line Pro 30 mm internal width carbon wheels, with the exception of the E*thirteen E*Spec Race carbon cranks. At the heart of the bike is the Bosch Performance Line CX Smart System motor, which puts out 85 Nm of torque and 250 W of maximum power. There are four different power settings, in addition to zero assist, that can be tuned to your riding style.

The all new AirWiz monitors the shock pressures, so you won't have to waste time double checking your suspension before a ride.






Rail 9.9 AXS - $13,499


Build Kits

You don't have to fork over all of savings, because there are five North American Rail models which utilize the new frame design to choose from. $8,999 will get you out the door with the Rail 9,8 GX build. For the same price, you can also choose a Shimano XT group set. Another $1000 will give you the option of electronic shifting from the SRAM GX AXS kit. A full Shimano XTR trim will break into the 5-digit price bracket at $12,499.

Rail 9.8 GX - $8,999
Rail 9.8 XT - $8,999
Rail 9.8 GX AXS - $9,999
Rail 9.9 XTR - $12,499







Frame Details

Trek has really gone all out with this bike. There is no shortage of features, like the Kiox display that is removable, but the mount is integrated into the top tube. Just ahead of that is the Knock Block 2.0 with 72-degrees of turning radius. This can be swapped for an infinite radius chip, but is strongly advised against to protect the display unit. Leading the charge at the front of the frame is the massive 1.8" lower head tube and eMTB rated version of the RockShox ZEB for maximum single crown stiffness. The frame can accept a 170 mm fork, should you wish to boost the travel.

To accept that new steer tube, Trek redesigned the 9.9 and 9.8 frames, while the other models in the family use the carry-over chassis from last year. The previous generation is not backwards compatible with the new power components (the motor, battery, display, and remote). For riders choosing the size small frame, it's worth noting that it comes with a 625 Wh battery due to the packaging constraints of the curved top tube, a compromise that was done for increased standover height. It will also need to use Bontrager's Voda 15 water bottle, but all other sizes will fit a regular 650 mL vessel.

On the non-driveside of the downtube is a lock for the side-release battery and its clever handle that pops into action when released. This means you'll need to have the keys on hand to totally remove the battery, but that's not necessary to charge the bike. A port is located at the bottom of the 34.9 mm seat tube, just above the motor. A full charge will take six hours, but the 4-amp charger will get you 50% capacity in just two hours.

The frame accommodates the new 1.8" tapered steertube standard.
Knock Block 2.0 gives you 72-degrees of turning radius.
The battery has a clever handle that springs up when disconnecting the battery.

Rear suspension duties are handled with 150 mm of rear wheel travel via Trek's Active Braking Pivot (ABP) linkage and a trunnion mount Thru-Shaft Super Deluxe RCT3, a shock with a three position climb switch and rebound adjustment. The maximum rotor sizes are already fitted, with a 220mm up front and 200mm out back. Also on the rear triangle near the brake caliper is a kickstand mount, not something often seen on an enduro eMTB, but it's on unobtrusive option, should you want to add that component.

As mentioned, the Rail can rock a mullet wheel setup if you flip the Mino Link chip at the seat stay pivot to the high setting, also yielding the most aggressive geometry. Changing just the wheel isn't enough though. You'll need to visit a dealer to re-program the motor to gain the best output for the smaller rear wheel.







Geometry

To set the stage as Trek's most capable eMTB, the 9.9 and 9.8 Rail 29er setups rest with a contemporary 64.6º for the Hi setting or a slacker 64.2º when the Mini Link is flipped to the Lo side. That number can be furthered to 63.9-degrees in the mixed wheel configuration. All of these changes will affect the seat tube angle of course, changing the numbers from 77.1º to 76.7º and finally 76.4-degrees, respectively.

The Rail comes in four sizes, starting with a 431.7 mm reach on the size small in the low setting. A medium gains 20 mm of reach, while the large and extra large jump up by a bigger gap of 30 mm per size. Our size large had a reach of 486.8 mm, which is slightly longer than most other brands. One length that doesn't change for each size is the chainstay, measuring in at 448 mm.








Ride Impressions

My first thought about the Rail 9.9 is how it resembles a new school American muscle car, with a ton of carbon fiber and lots of digitally integrated sensors, and as always, more power than its predecessor. When in the driver's seat, the Kiox display is tucked out of harms way behind the stem, but the handlebar remote is susceptible to damage in a crash as it sits high above the contour of the handlebar. It's also a little cluttered and not easy to locate the power assist buttons when you're focusing on the trail. Add in the dropper post remote and it's a lot to operate on the fly.

Handling on the Rail 9.9 is intuitive in that geometry is fairly standard for a modern enduro bikes, plus the suspension design doesn't do anything unexpected. It's easy to predict through the chunder and steeps. The motor was also extremely quiet and didn't emit any clunky noises while descending, unlike the bikes we tested with the rattling Shimano EP8 motor at our Summer Field Test. In terms of engagement, it's on par with the Shimano, but a back-to-back comparison will be necessary to get into the nitty gritty differences.

The Kiox display has all the stats on display, but the remote buttons could be more pronounced.

My first few outings took place in between rain showers in Pemberton, BC. I quickly got up to speed and was able to get a handle on cornering the bike both up and downhill, but I did find that the hard 50/70a durometer tires were very skittish on wet rocks and roots. I tried dropping the pressure well below what I would normally aim for on an eMTB, but I really had to tip-toe across any polished surface.

I began with 185psi in the rear shock for the slippery conditions, but after checking Trek's suspension calculator, I upped that to 200, choosing to run a little less sag than recommended for the generally steep trails here in Pemberton. The Rail 9.9 ships with zero volume spacers installed, but I'll be adding more for the next ride, since the bottom outs were somewhat abrupt.

The dual compound 50/70a durometer Bontrager tires were sketchy climbing and descending on the wet bedrock in Pemberton.

For climbing, the climb switch firmly holds the suspension, but I still prefer to have maximum traction for climbing and kept that open. The ground clearance on the 165 mm cranks is manageable when the shock is fully open and the seat angle doesn't tip back too far. Knock Block 2.0 is a big improvement in turning radius and didn't hinder the Rail, even on the tightest uphill switchbacks.

Aside from the tires, which will have to be swapped for something much tackier, there haven't been too many concerns to note. All of the widgets and trick features are well thought out, with the exception of the subtle power mode buttons. The only long-term thing to keep an eye on is the lack of any paint protection like a rubberized flap for the main pivot at the base of the seat tube. A few chips are already present on the otherwise superbly packaged eMTB. We'll see how the rest of the paint and other electronic components fare through the undoubtedly drizzly Pacific Northwest winter in our full length review over the next few months.




190 Comments

  • 183 11
 Its a bit cheap for the top model isn't it?

Be safe be well,
Incognito Robin
  • 54 1
 Personally, sub $10k e-bikes just aren't worth it.
  • 95 2
 @BoobyHill: My thoughts exactly! I can't have my CEO buddies thinking I'm poor!

Be safe be well,
Incognito Robin
  • 13 47
flag GotchaJimmy (Oct 28, 2021 at 9:33) (Below Threshold)
 quit while you're ahead
  • 5 1
 Good take over on PB @notebikeCeo
  • 4 0
 Last year's Trek catalog indicated a Rail 9, alloy frame with upper tier components. Apparently not available in the US market(?) because we can't have Nice Things that Make Sense.
  • 2 7
flag bek998 (Oct 28, 2021 at 11:25) (Below Threshold)
 I think what you want to say is "top model is pretty affordable" (for CEOs that is).
  • 2 0
 @codypup: Yeah I wondered the same. The article cites 5 spendy carbon models but then the summary box at the top of the page shows a price range that starts at $5599. That least-expensive price tag must belong to the carryover alloy frame, and likely with the 540W battery…. Checking trek.com and the 2022 bikes are indeed there, with a total of 8 models. There’s a $6500 Rail 7 with a Domain and a 625W battery and a $5600 Rail 5 with an RS Gold 35 - battery detail is missing though.
  • 5 0
 @sngltrkmnd: I want everything that comes with the 9.8XT, except the needless extra cost for a carbon frame on what will be a 50# bike, either way.
  • 81 2
 "won't have to waste time checking your pressures before a ride"
MTB is getting pathetic these days...
  • 12 0
 It’s like that David Cross joke about the Coors can with the temperature indicator on the label. Why go to that trouble when you can just, you know, *pick up the can and determine how cold it is with your hand*??? GIve that tire a squeeze, and compress that suspension before heading out. Haha
  • 28 1
 I don’t know about you but I just want to grab my bike and go! Not mess around with pressures for 5 minutes before I ride. I’m off for a ride, peace ou…..crap, my battery is dead.
  • 5 0
 @sngltrkmnd: I’m glad someone appreciates David Cross like I do. I hadn’t heard that bit yet either!
  • 8 0
 And instead have 5 different batteries to make sure are good…
  • 24 0
 If your suspension pressure has changed significantly between rides then either 1) your seals need looking at, or 2) you need to ride more often...
  • 3 0
 I just have my man Jeeves do whatever it is you do with tire pressure before a ride.........
  • 1 0
 @krisrayner: I was just wondering, exactly how many little batteries all have to be charged for these things to work as you roll out?
Peace of mind… I don’t think it means the same thing for me as it does for the reviewer.
  • 65 17
 More battery powers for the kooks to reach where no kook has reached before
  • 7 13
flag DoubleCrownAddict (Oct 29, 2021 at 1:20) (Below Threshold)
 You can get there on a slow bike, just takes longer.
  • 2 3
 speak for yourself kook
  • 3 4
 @DoubleCrownAddict:
So true! What people don’t grasp (non e-riders mostly). Is that, I am doing the same big backcountry rides that on my regular bike and still do periodically, just a bit less suffering, more efficiently and timely. Only weak link for ebikes for me is limited battery life for that kind of rides I want to do on my days off. Cause of that, prefer regular bike at times when I know rides are going to be at least 3hrs and don’t want to fret the battery life. Have climbed out and finished longer rides, no battery left and is doable, but not fun.
  • 42 6
 So if I spend 10k now on this now... how much does the replacement battery cost when it craps out after 5 years of hard use or only has 60% of it's capacity left? Are replacement batteries available? Is anyone willing to buy a 3 to 5 year old ebike that has been well used with a battery that has an unknown state? Does the software tell you the battery health? is there anyway to objectively test the battery health? if I buy a used one and the battery dies in two months, what do i do?

Anyone with some long term experience with e-bikes and their batteries? How long to they last? How much range is lost year to year? How many cycles are the batteries good for? Replacement costs? Willingness of buyers to buy in the used marketplace?
  • 24 1
 Planned obsolescence and there are people who don’t care about resale.
  • 11 2
 Yes batteries are replaceable but they ain't cheap. Around $1k.
  • 24 2
 This is a standard Bosch battery. Isn't it? Bosch as many other German companies are really good when it comes to maintenance approach. It's nothing like in US where people are not even allowed to fix their laptops. I think it's safe to say you will have at least a decade of support. Batteries for really year old ebikes with Bosch system are still in production.
  • 7 0
 @goroncy: What would be nice is if companies kept the motor fitting the same between generations. That way if you have a bike with a previous gen motor you can upgrade to the latest gen without having to get a brand new bike. Bosch already squashed that idea though..
  • 6 0
 Not sure about battery life but I definitely wouldn't buy an ebike without a warranty. Most of my friends ride Levos or Kenevos and they are constantly breaking. Maybe Bosch are more reliable, I think I prefer the integration on the Specialized models though.
  • 3 0
 @stumphumper92: The changes in he motor design are too dynamic for that to happen anytime soon. But at least with Bosch you have an option a new old type motor. Without any problems.
  • 4 0
 @stumphumper92: In Germany Bosch battery goes for around 550EUR. If you are feeling sadistic you can find one for 1000EUR too.
  • 1 0
 @goroncy: for the 750wh?
  • 9 0
 @islandforlife Bosch Certified shops with can objectively check battery health; and replacement availability is good (for now, chip shortage etc may change things) - for resale, we often run a full bike and battery report which can be handed to the buyer.

Generally holding up to and outlasting Bosch's estimate of "90% range for 2 years or 500 charge cycles" YMMV
good service life of 4-5+ years

A lot of other battery companies don't offer the same support / availability / reports, but there are some companies doing battery rebuilds (ebike marketplace vegas) - I suspect those services will become more common. Many cheaper hubdrive bikes have a shorter 2-4 year lifespan on their batteries.

Source - 5years ebike industry
  • 4 0
 @justanothermatt: the bosch motors are super reliable. Sure there is the odd failure but nothing compared to the competition.
  • 1 0
 @stumphumper92: the new 2022 motor in this new rail uses the same mount as the 2020 motor.
  • 6 2
 @dontcoast: Thanks for the info. "good service life of 4-5+ years" - does that mean my $10,000 ebike has a useful life as a bike for 4 or 5 or 6 years? Ooof.
  • 7 2
 @islandforlife: yeah it pretty much means you're buying a new battery for $7-800 after 5 years.

For someone who can drop $10k on a bike, that's not that crazy for a refuel...less terrible % wise than someone riding a $5k ebike lol
  • 12 0
 @stumphumper92: Personally I wouldn’t want that. Tried out my neighbor’s Ghost ebike with the Shimano E8000 motor, and it was *fine* until I rode a bike with the EP8 motor - massive difference and the bikes were only 2 years apart. We are definitely still in the early days of ebikes… things are changing fast, so as challenging as it is to accept, we’re still early adopters the way I see it.
  • 2 0
 @sngltrkmnd: I'm pretty sure you could swap the ep8 in where the e8000 went. From memory shimano kept the mounts the same.
  • 3 0
 Considering these bikes come with displays and some of these systems even interact with cellphones these days, I'd say it would be an odd choice if they don't allow the user to read out the battery health right away. My computer just tells (running Manjaro Linux) though I discovered the Apple laptop from work indeed refuses to (despite having a bash shell too). So yeah, seems like a minor thing to implement and especially for those devices that interact with a cellphone, something that could be realized through a simple software upgrade. Having to visit a service center just for a readout is a bit silly.
  • 1 0
 @Richridesmtb: They did? Neat! I stand corrected.
  • 2 0
 @vinay: Good points. The flip side, as I see it, is that over the air diagnostics might require a cell phone connection/subscription. Forestal ebikes have this feature, and I can’t say I am too thrilled at the thought of yet another monthly cost. (Though I’m just a middle-class working slob - not really the target marking for five-figure ebikes.)
  • 1 0
 @vinay: the new Bosch "smart system" on this can get basic reports and updates over the air

not the full in-depthbattery diag as that requires doing a full charge cycle on a special device

the current (gen4) and older bosch systems can't do over the air updates/reports and require a dealer to connect to the bike.
  • 1 0
 Here in CA, parts supply must be offered for 7 years...... 6 years in the rest of the states.
  • 1 0
 Interesting, I’ve heard from multiple Trek shops that Bosch drive units are built proof. Specialized Brose seems to have fixed motor issues and Shimano been pretty good from start. I wouldn’t be concerned about batteries unless you go with something that isn’t made by Shimano or Bosch. Specialized overcharges for batteries, but other plays seem to be okay .
  • 1 1
 I’d expect resale of ebikes to continue to very good versus analog bikes. Market for ebikes and raising cost mean you will likely get your bike for less today than it will sell tomorrow.
  • 1 0
 Depending on the bike brand, majority top brands will offer battery replacement;
Also it rated per cycles of charge, so in case u charge it 2 per day - expect 2-3 years;

With e-bike industry LBS became crucial, since ebikes can be serviced only there and wear and tear motor and battery could be ordered through then only
  • 1 0
 @dontcoast: Yeah, maybe for a super accurate measurement you need to go through a full charge-discharge cycle but my laptop computer (Pinebook Pro) justs gives me the health as a percentage whenever I ask. And I usually avoid charging or discharging it fully. And for a potential buyer or even the owner itself, such a figure is probably a good enough indication. At least better than wondering whether health is 90% or 50% and with no way to tell.

@sngltrkmnd: Actually, I thought it would merely be a number that the bike sends to the phone for readout, possibly just over Bluetooth or something. I wouldn't expect it to require anything internetty. As for the software upgrades of the bike itself, I thought these are being done with an USB cable to your home computer. It isn't something you'd be doing when out riding, I suppose. Again, I honestly have no experience with these bikes but I thought these bike computers could be connected to computers.

@trollhunter: Is it? I can't tell for sure but I somehow got the impression that because these fast developments of this new technology, something bought a couple of years ago quickly looks dated. Unassisted bikes don't develop as quickly (except for geometry maybe, but that goes for assisted bikes too) so I was actually expecting these to hold their value better. My steel hardtail frame is three years old. If someone would have got it five years ago or just yesterday, it would have been the same.
  • 29 2
 I’ve got nothing against e bikes, but when I see a photo in an article like this of someone going up a steep descent in an area that I regularly descend at a high rate of speed I tend to get really choked. 2 way traffic on shit that’s been high speed DH for ever is a really really bad idea, regardless of what yer riding. I don’t want to get hurt because someone thinks it’d be neat to try to climb downhill trails on their e bike... don’t encourage that shit...
  • 8 1
 The latest generation of riders don't seem to care or understand the rules of the trail.
  • 27 1
 I'm not loving the way that computer sticks up above the top tube by an inch. Specialized has a cleaner integration with their control system. This just looks like the Tesla approach of gluing a massive iPad somewhere that it doesn't belong.
  • 26 0
 I too would prefer to not install a computer in my scrotum when I break a chain while standing or get hung up on an obstacle and fall forward on my bike.
  • 1 0
 @rickybobby18: good one we used to have Roach pads for that!
  • 4 0
 @rickybobby18: I've been riding one of these all year long, and if you take the computer to the scrotum you are really doing something wrong. It's actually well out of the way.
  • 1 0
 @Stickman1029: “computer to the scrotum”: true story I hit my right testicle on my saddle, it got infected and swelled to the size of a potato. The doctor I saw didn’t believe my story and assumed it was a std but he would confirm my story if my wife asked.
  • 19 2
 5 batteries you need to ensure you keep charged
  • 13 0
 They missed an opportunity to spec an AXS dropper and make it six.
  • 3 0
 Pretty sure its got six..... Shifter, front tire wiz, rear tire wiz, fork, shock and the main battery.....
  • 5 0
 @rocky-mtn-wheelworks: hold up, wait a minute, it has 7 right? You didn't list the rear derailleur
  • 2 1
 @rocky-mtn-wheelworks: thankfully no Flight Attendant!
  • 2 0
 sad it doesn't look like they got the rumored AXS extension cord on this one

ebike-mtb.com/en/sram-gx-eagle-axs-2021-review
  • 16 3
 Boo these prices
  • 3 0
 Gotta chuckle when I think of recent comments about “well when ebikes get more common the price will come down.” It’s the *cost* that may drop off, but demand leads to higher sticker prices.
  • 6 0
 is it just me or do the colors on the 9.8 gx and xt build look kind of outdated? as least the ones pictured (axs one looks fine to me). aside from that it all seems to be very sick, and the spec isnt the worst ive seen coming from trek!
  • 8 0
 It’s because you’ve seen those colours before on a Roscoe or a Fuel EX.
  • 14 0
 They are actually postdated colors. It'll be trendy again by the time the bikes are available.
  • 6 1
 @xxinsert-name-herexx: wtf is that profile lmfaoo
  • 4 0
 @ltharris: It's about time Muc-Off reverted to using hotties like this for their advertising.
  • 3 0
 @commental: All they need to do is figure out a way of inserting some virtue signalling and they'll multiply their profits!
  • 3 0
 @xxinsert-name-herexx: Haha. I also featured Dingus' photo as soon as I saw it, she's a beaut.
  • 6 0
 I picked up a '21 Rail 9.8 GX this summer with 90 miles on it for $2k off msrp, then promptly added a 9.8 SlackR to put head angle at 63.2 in high mode, DH casing Maxxgrip Assegai and DHRII with Cush Core f&r, a Oneup 210mm dropper, Rev grips and Ridewrap along with some healthy mastic application.

Those changes have made it a beast of a bike and make me think Trek should have gone further with their updates. I've had two Commencal Shimano E8000 bikes and the Bosch gen4 blows them out of the water in terms of capability and range. It's not all that light of a bike for being carbon but I get so much trail time in on it that it's just fantastic overall. Certainly wins on grins per hour ratio.
  • 12 6
 $13,499 USD? Just looked, and you can get a brand new 2021 Suzuki GSXR600 for $11,449. So a brand new Gixxer 6, some new leathers to match, and a helmet, all the same price (or less) than this motor assisted bicycle? I know where my money would be going (if I was in the market for either).
  • 3 6
 Yeah but who wants a pos Suzuki? Barf.
  • 11 3
 I am happy to see another fork steerer (and headtube and headset...) standard , said nobody ever....
  • 2 0
 Not sure what this is, but one meaningful Upvote for interesting prose:

hodaka combat wombat’s lovechild.
  • 11 6
 Aaaaand this is why I’m moto shopping instead of emtb shopping. $5-6K will get a new dual sport 200-300cc moto with waaay more range, proven reliability, and can ride it on the highway to the trails. These ebike prices are bananas.
  • 3 1
 Especially for what is essentially a half ass bike with a boring design and super heinous graphics.

Trek seems to think e bikes would never want more than 150mm travel.. cause pedaling efficiency is so important when you have a motor. Might want more than 150 when you are riding a bike that is essentially a shuttle machine. Did they actually make the downtube even bigger this year? And added a stupid looking computer to the top tube?
  • 8 1
 Someone at Trek didn't proof read those logos... AirWiz? TyreWiz? looks more like AirUJiz, TyreUJiz...
  • 2 0
 Great. Now I can't unsee it.
  • 4 0
 Airwiz sounds like a device for urinating in zero gravity environments.
  • 1 0
 @SacAssassin: aeroplane toilet? Rain?
  • 1 0
 @littleskull99: Might be on to something. This was definitely an airwiz

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-berkshire-58968692
  • 8 0
 1.8 steerer? For f*cks sake, just make more dual crowns.
  • 2 0
 Wait what happened to 1.5" did I miss out??
  • 8 1
 Look forward to when my bike and circular saw are part of the same battery ecosystem.
  • 1 0
 Not sure about you but then I won’t be able to cut a 2x6 or go on a ride
  • 6 1
 All this rambling and no “looks like a session”?
It’s a session dressed up like robocop’s and a hodaka combat wombat’s lovechild.
  • 3 0
 Once again trek with the lame ass colors..and the reach is just stupid.. coming from a ml to this year's ml..feels actually more cramped..the seat is right in your ass when standing..the short stem sucks..I swear geo from 5 years ago was better
  • 4 1
 flashing lights on my bike no thanks! I cringe thinking of all the thins that can go wrong with so many devices on this bike. YEs it would be amazing to ride!! until somthing stopped working and I cant find parts
  • 7 0
 What, no CheeseWiz?
  • 2 0
 $13.5K ... hmm. Why not $35K, or $75K?

~6yrs ago, Specialized had the E-MTB market cornered on esthetics. All of the MFG's have handsome offerings now. It has the quintessential chunky ebike features, but is a good looking machine with clean lines.
  • 5 3
 Stop complaining about costs. If it’s too much get a better career or worry about the things you CAN afford. Stop being spiteful at those who can afford them. “Expensive” is subjective, every dollar into the sport is a dollar for R&D.
  • 3 0
 Options to mount a kickstand? I’m in. I’ve been saying for years that all these amazing bikes are missing a kickstand to flip down at exactly the wrong moment. Wish my old DH had one for when I ride it to the shops.
  • 2 0
 thats a huge jump in reach from M to L. I was really happy that Trek did that inbetween M/L size. Not that im going to buy this bike but I wanted to throw my 2 cents out there
  • 6 1
 No saddle or grip warmers... Pass.
  • 5 3
 haha i do enjoy reading through all the comments from the colonials, all trying to oneup each other on how awful ebike are when deep down they all know they will be riding one very soon. its adorable.
  • 1 0
 It's too bad Trek skimps on the tires on such a nice bike. I bought a rail and had the exact same experience on the tires. If you decide to get this bike plan to immediately get some real tires. The bontragers are worthless/not worthy of this bike. It would be hard to overstate how bad they are compared to my maxxis tires.
  • 5 1
 Here before the anger, ready go.....
  • 4 1
 people check suspension air pressure before riding? i check mine every time i service it...
  • 5 0
 needs bigger lettering
  • 3 0
 I'm just hung up on the 1.8" fork steerer...is this another bit of f#ckery for us to deal with from now on?
  • 1 0
 I dont understand why they didnt bump the travel to 170/160 like the Slash. I mean it has a motor no need for pedal efficiency. I guess so the can make a longer travel in another year get people to buy 2
  • 1 0
 Beautiful bike Trek, minus the Bosh controls but many I ride with would still appreciate less weight (smaller battery) and more efficiency vs any more power…The currently power outputs are way beyond enough…thanks
  • 1 0
 Does anyone check suspension pressure every ride? Or it is new leaking air technology from RS?

Even per service manual it should be checked once per 3 or 6 month;

RM ebike looks more appealing
  • 3 0
 Just wish the manufacturers focused their efforts to get stocks and delivery of traditional bikes up to normal instead.
  • 3 1
 Honey did you charge your phone battery?
Your garmin?
Your bike?
Your derailleur?
Your dropper?
Your tires?
Your fork?
Your shock?

Just waiting for electronic brakes Smile
  • 5 2
 Don’t worry, these won’t be available until 2023.
  • 1 0
 Actually mine gets here in 3 months.
  • 5 3
 I own a 2021 Levo, along with 4 other analog rides. I don't ride the "E" that often, but when I do, it's fun as hell!
  • 4 7
 Is it "fun as hell" pulling out peoples wisdom teeth? Smile
  • 1 0
 @bedell99: Only pulling out the Johnson!
  • 3 0
 Can have an entry level for only 9k..ehmm…sounds like a real bargain….
  • 3 0
 This easily beats the 15k specialized
  • 2 1
 Just imagine... Saturday night, battery charging... and blackout during all night Next day, the holy Sunday ride.... and no bat!
  • 4 2
 Just put my Mtn Bike money down on a Husqvarna 350... no hipster shuttle vehicle required.
  • 2 0
 No voice control, 5G internet and face recognition? I don't need it! Oh wait a sec...
  • 1 0
 And I thought the future of mountain biking was the grim donut with a gear box. This is more like a 2 wheeled tesla. Hindsight says this was predictable.
  • 2 0
 With Trek's concern for about carbon footprint they shouldn't put tires on the bike that need to be immediately disposed of.
  • 2 0
 Love trek bikes but seriously stop using tiny droppers on long travel bikes. 150mm drop is not enough…
  • 1 1
 Phew a geometry update that doesn't include size-specific chainstays or seat tube angle. I was beginning to think the corporate bikes would catch on.
  • 1 0
 You still have to fork over most of your savings though, as the 9.7 model did not get any geometry updates. Thanks trek.
  • 1 0
 Any actual frame changes from 21? Just wana stick that fat ass battery in my 21 model.
  • 2 0
 Not backwards compatible.
  • 1 2
 @ZSchnei: on that note, the grammar police in me got fired up when I read that “the previous version is not backwards compatible with the new battery”. That’d be not *forward* compatible.
  • 3 1
 Does it has a device to tell you how much water is left on the bottle too?
  • 2 1
 Air wiz so you can check if the light is red or green? Jesus what have we become.
  • 3 3
 It's fun how, the GX Build and XT Build is par on price, whilst GX would settle in somewhere between Deore/SLX qualitywhise..
  • 2 0
 I don't know about that. As someone who works at a bike shop I can tell you that xt shifts no better than deore (in my opinion deore is better), and GX knocks the socks off deore sooooooo....
  • 1 0
 As I can see Trek is finally starting to give up on that straight down tube and knock block combo.
  • 1 0
 Imagine how much you could store in the downtube with the battery removed!!! Bikepacking revolutionized.
  • 1 0
 When they come with 4680 batteries I'll buy one. This would shave a lot of weight.
  • 2 0
 where is the remedy tho
  • 10 9
 What an overloaded pile of shit
  • 3 1
 Kickstand mount lol
  • 2 3
 why dont they just put a gyro on it and a camera with wifi and motors to turn so you can virtually ride the bike without even leaving your arm chair........lazy 8as+ard$
  • 1 0
 .. also I think it's lighter Wink
  • 2 1
 .. and when's Trek going to evaluate the Carbon Footprint of an E-Bike ?
  • 1 0
 Pinkbike - I could do some proofreading for you!
  • 1 0
 24kg, knock blocking, air wizzin house deposit.
  • 1 0
 Apparently, bikes without batteries and motors are still available….
  • 1 0
 Those "stankshuns" look so feeble compared to that beeeeeefy down tube.
  • 2 2
 I'd be more impressed if it was made out of wood.
  • 10 0
 You wood?
  • 2 2
 When Elon Musk has full control over your bike!
  • 1 0
 Is the battery lockable?
  • 1 0
 Need a key to remove so yes.
  • 15 1
 @d-man: I thought that I was the ignition.
  • 3 3
 I can see the cracks in the line 30s already
  • 4 1
 Well over 2k miles of hard riding on my Line Carbon 30's and no cracks.
  • 1 0
 the new bonty carbon wheels they released in 2021 are much better.
  • 1 0
 @ZSchnei: Thats what I I've heard but I am still submitting several warranties per month for both the new and old ones
  • 4 4
 for when you have more $$$$$$$$ than sense.
  • 9 8
 More ebikes ……..yawn
  • 2 1
 Out of my price point .
  • 4 5
 I will never not be irritated by the inclusion of these things into the mountain biking space.
  • 1 0
 Frankly, TREK are ok
  • 1 3
 The first thing you'll notice is it weighs more than a BB7 and costs more than a motorcycle - Why isn't this on pinkebike instead?
  • 4 4
 Imagine buying this instead of a motorbike.
  • 1 0
 Savings?
  • 17 18
 A $13,500 moped with a kickstand mount. What is this timeline.
  • 2 4
 been trying to get my hands on an emtb but with the crazy price tag. I think I'll settle for an E-dirt bike for now.
  • 2 2
 *Buys a Cake, instead*
  • 6 7
 I would be so pissed off if my boss told me to go design an e bike.
  • 3 5
 All models just too expensive,Should have revealed them on April fools day next year.
  • 1 2
 Id rather have any top of the line Enduro moto... or trails moto...
  • 3 4
 ebike sux
  • 1 2
 Cool motorcycle.
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