Five Ten Impact Pro Shoes - Review

May 15, 2018
by Mike Kazimer  
Five Ten Impact Pro review

The Impact has long been a mainstay in Five Ten's mountain bike shoe lineup, but it recently underwent a significant revision. The goal of the revamp was to create a durable, grippy, but not quite as bulky flat pedal shoe that would meet the needs of downhillers and aggressive trail riders.

The Impact Pro is the result, and it takes the place of the Impact VXi that preceded it. Where the Impact VXi had a foam midsole and a Mi6 rubber outsole, the new Impact Pro uses a polyurethane midsole and a Stealth S1 rubber outsole, features intended to help increase its lifespan. Available in black/gold or black/camo, the Impact Pro retails for $160 USD.
Five Ten Impact Pro Details
• Stitched & reinforced toe cap with Poron XRD foam
• Molded polyurethane midsole
• Stealth S1 outsole
• Colors: black / gold, black / camo
• Weight: 618 grams (per shoe, size 11)
• MSRP: $160 USD
www.adidasoutdoor.com/fiveten-brand

On a side note, although there have been rumors circulating about the future of Five Ten ever since Adidas purchased the brand back in 2011, at the moment it doesn't seem like there's any need to start stockpiling shoes. Five Ten is working more closely with Adidas in order to take advantage of their development and manufacturing capabilities, but the brand itself isn't going anywhere.



Five Ten Impact Pro review
A synthetic upper helps keep the shoes from getting fully saturated on wet rides.
Five Ten Impact Pro review
Five Ten's signature Stealth S1 rubber provides plenty of grip.


Construction

Five Ten brought back several of the design features found in the original Impact for the Pro model, but focused on keeping the weight and overall dimensions a little more reasonable. The polyurethane midsole was chosen because of its resistance to packing out over time compared to a foam midsole – in other words, it should be better able to shrug off a season's worth of hard landings.

Shoe rubber is similar to tire rubber, where a lower durometer provides more grip, but at the expense of durability. That was one of the issues riders had with the Impact VXi – there was plenty of grip, but the rubber wore quickly, especially for riders who were hiking around in rocky terrain. The time-tested S1 Stealth Rubber is used on the Impact Pro, with a modified tread pattern that now has alternating large and small circles around the middle of the foot, and raised half circles towards the front of the foot for off-the-bike traction.

The Impact Pro uses a synthetic upper that's supposed to be quick drying and less likely to absorb water. There's also a reinforced toe box, and the sole is sewn around the toe area to help prevent delamination. Other features include an elasticized lace holder to prevent the old 'laces in the chain' trick, and a sewn loop at the back of the shoe to make pulling them on and getting out for a ride as easy as possible.


Five Ten Impact Pro review
Five Ten Impact Pro review

Performance

Five Ten's fit and durability has fluctuated a bit over the years, but things have taken a distinct turn for the better with the latest Pro series of shoes. They're much less boxy than older versions, with a snug, but still very comfortable fit. I've been using a set of Freerider Pros for over a year without running into any issues, and so far, after six months of abuse the Impact Pros are still holding tough. They're a bit heavier than the Freerder Pros – those feel more like beefed up skate shoes, while the Impacts feel closer to an approach shoe or lighter hiking boot.

The Impacts may not be the absolute lightest or the most ventilated option out there, but they make up for that with a reassuringly solid feel. For mellower trail rides I prefer the lighter weight of the Freerider Pros, but the extra protection of the Impact Pros is nice to have for more DH-oriented riding. The sole is stiff enough for long days of pedaling or in the bike park, but it's not so thick or stiff that you can't tell where your foot is on the pedal.

Five Ten Impact Pro review
Five Ten Impact Pro review
Five Ten's Impact Pro is on the left, and the Freerider Pro is on the right.

That being said, the soles on shoes like the OWN FR-O1 and Shimano GR9 are more flexible, and feel like they contour to the pedal better, but the tradeoff is the neither of those options offer the level of grip provided by the Impact Pro's sole. Five Ten's rubber remains the best in the business, and despite numerous attempt to knock it off the throne, that Stealth rubber is still king. I've used multiple flat pedals during my time with these shoes, and no matter the pin profile or pedal shape I never had any issues with unwanted slippage.

In really wet weather the Impacts will still get soggy and saturated, but they're much, much less absorbent than the original Impacts. They also dry quicker, and one cycle on my boot dryer was all it would take to ensure they were ready for another round of wet riding.



Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesFive Ten's Impact Pro hits the mark, with an excellent fit, unmatched grip, and a burly construction capable of withstanding plenty of use and abuse. I'd still love to see slightly higher cut around the inside ankle, and possibly a velcro strap over the top of the foot, but even without those features the Impact Pro's comfort and durability is tough to beat.  Mike Kazimer









164 Comments

  • + 94
 I've got the Freeriders and, after just over a year of above average use of both walking & cycling, the in-soles have completed fallen apart. They look like someone's ran over a slice of bread and have massive holes in them where my feet naturally hit the ground. I had the original Freeriders and they genuinely lasted 6 years; I only binned them because they looked like, well, 6 year old shoes. These are only in-soles though; I've not had any other issues with the shoes so far.

I guess you could say 5.10 sold their soles to Adidas. WAHEY
  • - 12
flag WAKIdesigns (May 15, 2018 at 0:51) (Below Threshold)
 I’ve read and heard many testimonies like yours about freeriders and they go before the times Adidas bought 5.10. The truth is Freeriders have always been a shitty shoe. People may love them for how they feel but they have never been durable. It’s how the undersole is constructed. Having said that I have no doubts that by average the quality went down after Adidas moved in
  • + 9
 just to be clear. You're only talking about the insoles? the rest of the shoe is holding up?
  • - 4
flag WAKIdesigns (May 15, 2018 at 1:09) (Below Threshold)
 @jojotherider1977: the most common issue with Freeriders is undersole separating from the rubber stripe around the shoe. You can glue it together though.
  • + 14
 @WAKIdesigns: i disagree - i got mine in 2013 and they are still holding up strong save for the odd scratch. so i for one am very happy with them.
  • + 11
 "I guess you could say 5.10 sold their soles to Adidas. WAHEY"
Aye , you really made me laugh!
  • + 1
 FRs are most durable boots ever suitable for many disciplines and lifestyles, what the heck are you writing about WAKI?
dc, etnies etc need to be replaced every quarter when you shred, holes and damages everywhere. Freeriders have issue only with insole but dude, go to physio and learn how to walk properly while not doing holes in the ground, should help. Also water is getting under the sole, this is why they stink and insole is cracking if dried on sun.
agree that for last 3 years 5.10 are more shitty than ever, mostly mesh fabric and stitches seems to brake apart, but no issue with claiming them and getting new ones all the time.
rip 5.10
  • - 16
flag WAKIdesigns (May 15, 2018 at 2:39) (Below Threshold)
 @mits: many friends had Freeriders which fell apart and read lots of comments about it on the internet. That's all I can say. I have never owned freeriders but thank you for your relevant comment about physio and learning to walk but at the moment I'm into psycho. Wanna meet for a ride, in the summer? Just you and me? It will be fun. I need a bit thicker man to complete a double roller on my private pumptrack.
  • + 16
 I wonder if it's walking...I've had heaps of 510s and don't walk in them much, ride in them heaps and theyve all lasted ages
  • + 4
 Which model?
I've had the original Freeriders, Freerider Contacts and now Freerider Pros.The contacts were the absolute worst for durability, but I've been happy with the Pros given they are a grippy performance shoe. Still have my originals too which I still wear sometimes but prefer the stiffer sole on the Pros.
  • + 1
 Check the Altama Marine Boarding shoes if you want sticky rubber soles on a lightweight, hydrophobic shoe.
  • + 1
 @slimjim1: sorry I should have said - I haven't had freeriders, only half a dozen impacts of different types
  • + 3
 My current Freeriders were purchased in March of 2016. They are still going strong without any issue. I still have my previous Freeriders that I keep at my parents so I dont have to pack shoes - the only issue with them is holes from pedal pins.
  • + 4
 @neillyb should have recycled them as cool-covers.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: I've had a set of impacts that lasted around half a year before the rubber came away but the impacts have lasted 2 years now.
  • + 4
 @WAKIdesigns: freerides have lasted
  • + 32
 @neillyb, I’d consider that normal wear and tear - there’s a reason insoles are replaceable.

Heck, in the running world they recommend replacing shoes every three to six months. Just imagine the outrage if a pair of cycling shoes only lasted that long...
  • + 2
 They didn't delaminate after the first wet day of hike a bike freeriding? I have a pair of impacts that look brand new until you see every layer flopping around. The VXi have been very durable and half the weight. The impacts can kiss my ass.
  • + 4
 @russthedog: Nah I have a pair of Freeriders I lived in for nearly two years. Beat the crap out of them riding in all weathers just chucked them in the washing machine on a cool wash, they are still solid Only reason I don't wear them regularly is the sole is almost worn through and they look beaten up. IE faded but no splits nothing is coming apart. In fact, the last time I rode I chose them over the impacts as they felt nicer. I wouldn't pay too much heed to Waki he's got an overinflated ego and thinks he's an oracle.
  • + 2
 So true. The old soles held together waaaaaay longer. Everything since adidas has been disposable after a season or less.
  • - 5
flag fecalmaster (May 15, 2018 at 7:39) (Below Threshold)
 The life of your shoe depends on how much Saki was consumed before their construction.
  • + 5
 My 5.10 FreeRider's only lasted half a season before they started to flex around the pedal. I called up 5.10 through Adidas and they overnighted a pair of Freerider Pro's in time for a Virgin, UT trip completely for free, shipping included. Also I kept the old Freeriders for dirt jumping. The Pro's are 100x better than the originals, and customer service can't be beat. 5.10 for life
  • + 1
 If you run super sharp pedal pins like on canfield crampons the rubber usually gets a hole in it before the sides wear out.
  • - 8
flag WAKIdesigns (May 15, 2018 at 8:25) (Below Threshold)
 @Kitejumping - running super sharp/long pins like Carmpons and 5.10s, I honestly don't get the point. I have One ups now and fresh Freeriders Pro - the moment my foot gets bumped aside a bit I have to almost stop to put it back because there is no fkng way to move my foot back. I may as well clip in because the result is the same or worse.

@mikekazimer: not to mention how people whine on looks on 5.10 shoes and how running shoes look like...
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: the black 5.10 freeriders look awesome.
  • + 8
 you do know that they're a riding shoe not a walking shoe right? I don't know where you live but it's like running snow tyres on your car in the summer and being shocked that the tread wore off in 3 months... That's the trade off for them sticking to PEDALS so well. @WAKIdesigns same to you mate
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: I wish they would just stitch the entire thing on, I've never had glued on/vulcanized/etc soles last on any shoes, let alone riding shoes.
  • + 2
 @chappers998: My freeriders last about 2 years... 3-5 rides per week climbing and descending... don't do clipless.... the insole breaks down where the pedals contact the shoe....
  • + 2
 I thought I was reading the latest issue of Orthopedics Today®. Or a docu-series on the costume designers for Sling Blade.
  • + 1
 @BikeRipperVT: what?! where did I say anything about walking? Who in their right mind walks around in shitty looking shoes with stiff soles?! Whatever, yeah, sorry, everyone who rides in original 5.10 Freeriders is a super ripper, has a huge stiff dick and shoots massive loads.
  • + 1
 I've got the blue with orange freeriders. Not sure what model it is. Both the outer as the inner sole are completely thru, but I think there is some midsole left. So yeah, about time to look out for something new. Most likely 5.10 again, I don't think I've worn anything else in the past decade except for running. It isn't easy to find shoes with ample room for the toes to dance around. So if this new model is more snug as described in the article, these aren't for me. If they plan to do this for their other models too, I call it a crisis. As for wear, yeah shoes wear. Don't blame it on the shoes. I wear through the bottom of my socks too quite quickly. It is probably me.
  • - 1
 You shouldn't walk in your ride shoes. I put mine on at the ride spot n take them off when done riding. Simple
  • + 4
 @OsamaBeenRiding: really? honestly? why don't you glue 5.10 sole kit to a road shoe then? The only reason why most people ride in softer clipless shoes instead of racing ballerinas is because it's much comfier to walk in them... Jesus... all we need in such ridiculous comment stream is purists.
  • + 3
 @WAKIdesigns: Yep, I totally agree. All my free riders over the years have been poorly constructed... and contrary to popular armchair opinion the current generation are much better quality. But they still fall apart quicker than most. I only continue to get them because of the grip.

I do wish Teva didn't bail on the Links oh and the Vans with the Gravel
  • + 6
 @WAKIdesigns: We all know you don't ride anything but your keyboard
  • + 1
 @T1mb0: THIS! Teva shoes were awesome. I've been wearing pinners 3 days a week for two years. replaced the insoles and kepton going. Teva cranks I still use after gluing the sole back on with shoo goo.
  • + 3
 @neillyb: You're complaining about getting over a year of "above average" use? What do you expect? That's about as long as any sports shoe -- hiking, running, basketball, soccer cleat, whatever -- is going to last, if that. I guess SPD shoes might last longer, but that's because you're only using them when you ride... Other than that, I think the only other athletic footwear that would last longer is ski boots -- and I'm sure there's a guy out there who gets in 150 days a year who will say he has to replace his ski boots every season.
  • + 1
 @TheR: I’m not sure my fairly new freerider canvas will last a year. The sole started to come off above the stitching on the second day ...
  • + 1
 @Gamsjaga: Yeah, just going by what the OP wrote. I can't really comment on the quality of 5.10s, as I've never ridden them. But he was saying a year. A year is more than most people would hope for. If you're saying the second day... then yeah, I would find something else to wear.
  • + 2
 @TheR: I’ll ride them until they’re done and look for something different then. As long as the sole doesn’t fall off it’s ok. Before I always used mid high skateshoes, Nike for the most part and they held up better.
  • + 1
 Currently wearing freeriders with some serious holes:
www.pinkbike.com/photo/15904878
Every pair I've ever had does this. For a month they look pretty good. Then the soles start to get pretty chewed up. After a year you can put your finger through the bottom and they get put on "lunch ride duty." Its too bad because they look perfect otherwise.
  • + 1
 @acali: There are original fiveten resole kits for their rock climbing shoes (with C4 rubber). Don't they have these for their cycling shoes too? I also thought there used to resoling services too.
  • + 1
 @acali: Have to add, another option seems to be to apply so called stealth rubber. Basically a glue with rubber particles. Won't be pretty, but it may get the job done. Worth a try at least.
  • + 1
 @acali: How much do you ride? Are your pedals made of razor blades? I've got 3 years on my freeriders riding 1-2 days a week for half the year and the soles are worn but mint.
  • + 3
 @friendlyfoe: Around 4 days a week. 3 short rides 1 longer ride. Main bike has Spank Spike pedals which aren't as sharp as the name implies. I think I move my feet around more than the average rider. If there was an affordable way to resole them I'd gladly do it but I just grab a pair whenever I come across a good deal.
  • + 2
 Well my last Freeriders lasted only 3 months before several holes appeared in the sole where the pins from the pedals were. You could poke a finger thorught that holes!! I used them only for riding and Im not some hardcore rider. Pedals were Nukeproof electron. Not to mention how flexible they became - my foot was wrapping around the pedal. I tried to return them in my local bike shop but they said its normal wear... Well now I stay far away from freeriders. I bought a pair of hiking Merells and a local shoemaker changed the sole to stealth rubber and Im very happy with the result, been using them for two seasons now without issues...
  • + 2
 @nekislav: no no no according to @mits you should learn to walk.
  • + 1
 Just ride with Vans,, look and ride stylish for half the price.
  • + 1
 @fecalmaster: yes and you break your foot like Ratboy, just from half the height
  • + 1
 Been riding Vans before you could spell mountain bike. I only broke my foot skateboarding and up your ass.
  • + 1
 @fecalmaster: I’m thinking a pair of Vans leather pro skate models would work nicely for mountain biking. The pro skates are reinforced and have more support in the sole than the regular models. Leather would protect your feet a little better. Worth a shot.
  • + 2
 Ya like I said been riding multitudes of Vans for decades including mud bog Plattekill NY DH, about as gnarly as is gets. The right pedal combo helps also.
  • + 2
 @fecalmaster: Mostly I ride clips. My shoes before the ones I have now were Vans Warner for SPD. Bulletproof, and looked good. A little tough to get the cleat in the right place at first, but overall, great shoes. Would recommend if they still sold them.

As for the regular Vans, they were good enough for BMX racing. The reinforced pro models should fare well for mountain bikes.
  • + 1
 I agree and have about 7 pairs of various Vans, including a pair of SPD's from like 8 years ago that still look brand new. Their SPD shoes are def bulletproof. Wish Fiveten and DC didn't fall off soo bad. I have the ultimate example of DC quality decline. A pair very regular DC's I got for $40 about 15 years ago are still very much in use to build trails and are bulletproof, a new pair of more high end 3/4 style have fallen apart in a few month's with minimal street riding. I had the original ugly ass Intense Fivetens and they lasted like 6 years of mud/snow/trail building hell. Last pair of Impacts I had literally fell apart in under a year with minimal riding, more AM usage.
  • + 1
 I have a pair of free riders that are 5 years old now, the only part worn through are the pin holes, and on the sides where they flex. They did a really good innings. I took the insoles out of them and my foot is basically one the pedal I can feel the pins through them, amazing control sensitivity
  • + 2
 @mikekazimer: Very true. As I said in my original post, the rest of the shoes are absolutely fine, it's just the in-soles that have perished quite quickly in comparison to other shoes (previous 5.10's, running shoes and others) I've used in the past.

I'd still buy 5.10s regardless of the wear rate, especially the Freerider model, because it's the only shoe I can cycle to and wear at work without looking like I've had head trauma in the past and require special shoes to get around.
  • + 1
 @TheR: Yeah fair point mate; I can see it came across as a bit moany but I just wanted to highlight the difference between the old 5.10s I had and these new ones. The rest of the shoes are 100% OK, it's only the in-soles that have been tenderised by my tootsies. #consumerrights
  • + 32
 New models, higher cost and lower quality. My 2005 Impact lasted almost ten years.
  • + 2
 yepsypepsy my man, skål, hilsen martin hjelseth
  • + 17
 @dizikretor: I understand your mad but no need to go viking on us. Maybe you can find an NOS vintage pair on ebay. Wink
  • + 0
 @chals - fotsvamp FTW!
  • + 25
 FiveTen, please make a shoe for flat pedals that will last at least 1 year.....
Impact VXi completely deliminate in 2 - 3 months.....(always replaced under warranty).
Freerider Pro deliminated in 6 months (35 rides) and warranty was rejected.....
140€ for 35 rides are you serious?
  • + 1
 Yeah, that's kind of crazy. I personally ride clips, but I know when I spend $250 on a pair of shoes, I'm buying something that I'm going to be riding for at least a couple years. XC race slippers might not be everyones favorite, but they really do last quite well. That said, I limit the amount of walking I do, due to the sheer annoyance of walking in them
  • + 19
 First time poster, long time reader. My last pair had the sole's completely delaminate from the shoe from one season's worth of riding. I've had herpes sores last longer than these crappy shoes.
  • + 2
 Same here...fixed it with ShoeGoo, so far they're holding up. I do however hope they fixed the issue for the new Pro model.
  • + 7
 @elchomator: went to pull my foot off the pedal and my sole stayed put. WTF.
  • + 3
 @elchomator: ShoeGoo is where it's at! that wonderful stuff saved me so much money back when i was skateboarding.
  • + 1
 And guess what, I had similar issue with their approach shoes, I don't ride flat pedal but 5.10 is a big name in the Mountains, now I'll go back to my Vaude or LaSportiva which gave me much better experience so far.
  • + 11
 We can tell you're a long time reader when you compared your shoes to herpes sores.
  • + 1
 Welcome to the circus
  • + 15
 "bought the shoes a year ago. Wore them everyday, riding, working, mowing the lawn, drinking, skateboarding, running, climbing.
came on PB to complain how they only lasted a week.

They dont last but i keep buying them because no one else makes a good shoe."
  • + 13
 “Mine didn’t last a day,” and “Mine lasted 10 years,” comments everywhere. I call BS on both. Maybe a random shoe here and there might have a factory issue, and not last as long. But those variances are simply not realistic.
Besides, mileage and riding style are a far better indicator to wear, not time. My socks will last ten years if they stit in the drawer.
I’ve had impact xvi and free rider pros. Both lasted about 1,000 miles of 70% long pedals on blue/black terrain and 30% DH Park days. The impacts are grippier and stiffer, and freeriders are lighter and vent better. I know, revelation.
They both started to delam the soles once the rubber had holes, which lets in water and dissolves the glue.
  • + 2
 ^^
This X1000. I've had a pair of Freeriders and a pair of Impacts for well over a year now, and while both are showing signs of wear, they both appear to have a lot of miles left on them. Just starting riding with a pair of VXi, and based on how well my VXi clip shoes have held up, I'm expecting a reasonably long performance life as well. That said, I do not ride in wet conditions very often and I make a point not to walk around in them just for the hell of it.

And really, if I get 1-2 years out of bike shoes with the stickiest rubber in the market, I'm OK with that. Like @mikekazimer said, think about the running world and how long their $150 shoes last.
  • + 1
 I bought the horrendous looking Marzocchi 5.10s in 2007, I decommissioned them late last year. They legit lasted 10 years until the sole started to delaminate. My new(ish) pair of sam hill 5.10s are going strong though!
  • + 14
 "I stand on rigid aluminum pedals with long, sharp pins sticking into the soles of these shoes, mobbing over difficult technical terrain at high speeds, absorbing 4-foot drops, casing jumps, through mud, creek crossings, rocks, dirt, sticks and rocks deflecting off my feet the entire time which are like 12 inches off the ground. Also the rubber has to be soft enough to grip the pedals, but I also want it to be hard enough so that it doesn't wear out and lasts 5 years." - pinkbike
  • + 3
 Seriously. I feel like even if your shoe lasts you a year on a mountain bike then you are getting your moneys worth. I mean, sharp pins stick into them and huge forces are applied to the shoes. We ask a lot of these shoes and they put up with a lot of abuse. Not to mention they do their job better than anything else on the market. That being said, my Freeriders are on season 2 and while the sole is showing some wear, they are still going strong.
  • + 1
 @SCxXxMTB: I don't think so, I have shoes who still are alive after two year's of hard abuse who I translated to 30.000miles enduro stuff + alot of hike the bike. Those are normal hiking shoes with a large flat stiff sole.
From last year my impacts fall apart after 150.
  • + 7
 I've been wearing Five Ten for years now. But...i tend to go through 1 pair a year and that's with riding 2 times a week on average, in north Wales; so wet, often, and then spending half their time drying on a radiator when not being worn throughout the winter....and rarely cleaned properly. I'm not sure whether that's good or not, i'd say 1 pair a year is good going consider how i treat them? Despite the price tag.
  • + 1
 Same here but I'm on my first pair of 5:10's, Impact Vxi's. Was warned they'd fall apart and behave like sponges but they've coped with regular drownings all year round and are only just starting to show signs of hard wear on the soles. Seeing as I'm out round all of Wales and further afield 2-3 times a week in all weathers I'm happy they ares till perfectly usable after a year's abuse. I think the key to making them last is how you dry them out, not too much heat. I've got a shoe dryer that I use to get them nearly dry then let them finish off at room temperature. Every person that complains about them falling apart either leaves them wet or bakes them to try and dry them out. I had Shimano AM41's before these and they were toast after 9 months with the sole ripped to shreds and the toe area delaminating.
  • + 4
 I just broke my little toe yesterday in regular Freeriders by stubbing my foot at high speeds on a rock. Would these Impacts be better for me or would the FR Pros offer enough lightweight protection? I do not do park but hard trail riding in SoCal with lots of rocky climbs and descents. Thank you PB community!
  • + 1
 Did the same thing at the start of last season. I stumped (pardon the pun) for the Freerider pro and have found that to be sufficient. I've found them a good mix of weight, protection and durability.
  • + 3
 I’ve just ditched my 5.10’s for the new Giro shoes. As Mike wished for, they have a higher padded inner ankle and a velcro strap AND the elasticy lace holder on the tongue. They also feature a durable outsole. They’re not as grippy as the stealth rubber, but they will no doubt last through the season with both park and trail riding.
  • + 6
 FWIW, I've had the Giro shoes for awhile now and they certainly will last a long time based on my experience. However, I couldn't ride with them on anything other than (very) mellow trail rides as I felt the sole was about as grippy as a wooden soled dress shoe. Although I realize some people don't need (or even like) an extremely grippy shoe, so if thats you, the Giro is a good bet.
  • + 0
 @jackalope: probably the only thing I could say negative about them is the soles are a bit stiff. They do let my feet move around a bit on the chunky trails, but I think I can adjust to it. With the 5.10, they were almost too grippy at times, like if my foot did happen to move, it felt nearly impossible to get my foot back into position. Plus, that $160 I won't need to spend on new shoes next year can go towards a new set of tires, since they tend to wear out just as bad.
  • + 1
 Would like to see PB running a long term comparison test with 5.10, Grio, and any others. Been evaluating myself what shoe to get due to my old 5.10s feeling the test of time.

Definitely a bit frustrated with the cost of the new 5.10s and hearing about all the issues with the shoes even lasting a season. My old 5.10s were priced fairly, grippy, and lasted many seasons of hard riding, why can't they continue with the old design?
  • + 3
 I had the opportunity to ride a new brand of flat pedal shoe at outer bike last year. I was excited because competition is always good for the consumer. The owner was super excited and loved to make fun of five.ten for being over priced and not last that long. HIS shoes were $70 dollars and could be warn for years!

Unfortunately his shoes were shit, had no grip, and ruined my ride. Say what you want about five.ten but they work really well for one thing: grip.
  • + 4
 we have a guy in my country that put 5.10 rubber on almoust any shoe. Friend gave him some old fivetens to replace rubber sole, and they came back like new. There is an option to even make your hiking shoes for Alps, good for riding flats, shoemaker swaps part of sole where you put your feet on pedals with stealth ruber from 5.10 and you can use them for climbing mountains with your bike on your shoulders and then have a decent grip on flats dowhill.
  • + 3
 The price of flat shoes is getting nuts, especially when 5 10's don't last well.

I like the Freerider for mucking about on my bike bike, but for longer rides they hurt my feet (I can feel the pins through the soles). I have a pair of Impact VXi's which I use on the trail bike and they've not lasted that well. The soles look battered with big chunks missing. The grip is good, really good but the longevity and price don't stack up for me - I'll give some Shimano GR7's a whirl next (had to borrow some old AM41's the other week after forgetting my shoes and they were actually really good).
  • + 2
 I’ve always had 2-3 pairs at a time (right now Old Minnarrs, Impact xVi and Impact high tops) - all ridden as flats.
None of them have come apart at all.
My only beef, xVi’s are pretty uncomfortable and the Impact highs - completely loose lacing - causes sore/hot spots on the bottom of my feet.
Will likely buy these and have four pairs.
  • + 6
 Vans-they really need to bring out a MTB line.
  • + 3
 They had some cool DH shoes back in the day, they should bring them back, but Vans is another sold out corporate money fuck machine. No more sole left in Vans either.
  • + 1
 @Boardlife69: yeah the Warner shoe was great, unfortunately most big companies are 'sold out' now days. I cringe when I see fashionable people wearing vans stuff they've prob never stepped foot on a surf or skateboard their whole lives. And thrasher wear....grrrr
  • + 1
 @hairy1976: Or people who wear Ramones or Nirvana shirts while listening to Bieber bop puksic. DOWN WITH POSERS!
  • + 2
 @Boardlife69: a "friend" had a black sabbath T shirt on a while ago, asked him to name 2 songs. He failed. Idiot.
  • + 1
 I miss Nike's 6.0 line. I still wear Nike SB Dunk Lo Pros.
  • + 1
 @hairy1976: Ever been to Southern California? Vans stores are more ubiquitous than Starbucks. You could probably throw a single baseball from one store to another and connect them all within a few hundred miles.
  • + 1
 @Boardlife69: 99% of all humans that wear a misfits shirt.

And why are Nirvana shirts with the smiley face blue now? I miss the OG black shirts, and even more the "kitty pettin', crack smoking" Nirvana tour t-shirts from back in the day.
  • + 2
 @LoganKM1982: "Who came along for the ride
Hey, you can't come inside" Smile

1% brother
  • + 0
 You are sooo right and then they have no idea where those brands come from
  • + 2
 Hope they are better than the vxi.so stiff and no feel to it. Plenty of grip but my work boots are more comfortable. I had a pair of the karver kovarik 510 shoes.although heavy they were soooo good.lots of cushion around ankles.solid support and feel and a flap to cover laces. Should have bought 2 sets.
  • + 1
 these are much stiffer than the vxi
  • + 2
 I've had freeriders for 4 years, and now freeriders pro for one year, and they're still as new, so I'm wondering if you have any infos about where the shoes are made ?
Reading the comments it really feels like there a few different factories and no quality control, some producing good shoes, some crappy ones !
  • + 2
 That means the shoes will be more snug? I f*cking hate to find MTB shoes who are wide enough to support my foot.
PB if you review that stuff talk about the dudes with enormous feet pls.
The old implact was the widest shoe I could find but the delamination was a f*cking pain. I bought them 2 week's before the mega avalanche. I come back with holes and delamination from just one hard week of riding. The shoe uppers still looks good but without shoegoe it would be long gone.
  • + 2
 The impact pro is wider than the old impacts at least for my foot, especially in the toes
  • + 1
 I like the look of the narrower heel. I had to switch from my Impacts to Freeriders when I got my latest bike because I was hitting my heels on the stays (okay, I have a bit of a duck-footed riding stance). I always like the Impacts more; maybe now I can switch back.
  • + 1
 We don't ride in the wet around here; because it destroys our trails with the soil base we have. Maybe that's why I'm still happily rocking my 2012 era Impact high tops. No delamination issues for me and the sole is holding up pretty well. Probably get another two years out of them.
  • + 4
 if we dont ride in the wet we never ride :-(
  • + 1
 @mikekazimer - it's nice to hear you thought these had "excellent fit" - but that's meaningless unless you give us a bit of context. Feet vary widely in shape, so excellent fit for one person is useless for another. I'm one of those duckfoot people (wide forefoot, normal to narrow heel), so I need to find shoes with a wide toebox. My wife has a narrow foot throughout. The old VXIs worked for me - I only had to buy them 1/2 size too large to get them wide enough. My wife hates anything built on the Impact last - can't get her feet from sliding around in them, so that leads to all sorts of cramping. She's using a pair of freeriders, which are almost narrow enough - I tried Freeriders (because I wanted a less bulky/hot shoe) and even though I sized up significantly, couldn't ride in them without all sort of pain from getting squeezed in the toebox (and that despite there being too much shoe in front of the ends of my toes, to the point where that was getting awkward and in the way).

All that wouldn't be a big deal if you could just walk into your LBS and try on a bunch of different shoes. But it turns out that's not easy to do - I need to replace my size 12.5 VXIs, but nobody in town had either a 12 or 13 Impact Pro (they no longer make a 12.5). So that leaves those of us with bigger or smaller sizes than the retailers stock having to order. To make your review more relevant, it would be great if you could supplement "excellent fit" with some sort of description of what sort of foot that fit relates to. You'd do the same thing for bike fit by telling us about your height and weight (your buddy Mike Levy even talks about his ape index). So without getting too personal - when you say these have excellent fit and in the past Impacts didn't so much, does that mean you have narrow to medium foot and found the old ones too wide, but these are narrower?
  • + 1
 I agree with your point.

In case it helps your search... I’ve got wide size 13 feet and ride the Hellcat. Fit is fine. I also walk around in a pair of Freeriders and they fit even better, not quite as tight in the toe box but still solid around the mid and ankle.
  • + 1
 g-42, ever try any shoes by Altra? Running shoe company, but they just made a trainer , the hiit-xt, that I'm trying as my flat-pedal shoe this year. Zero drop shoes, but the real reason I want them to work is a super wide toe box with a standard width heel. Kind of stupid looking, but good grip and they actually fit my feet! We'll see if they hold up.
  • + 5
 @g-42, that’s a lot of words to ask me what my feet look like. I wear a size 11 US, and have flat but average width feet.

Older 5.10 shoes were much boxier, and the new ones seem to be based on a last that’s shaped like a human foot rather than a rectangle.
  • + 1
 @mikekazimer: My old Vxi's and previous 5:10s have been a great fit for me (Duck shaped feet here too) so I'm hoping that when you say less boxier that the fit is still the same. Booking trip to LBS to try some.
  • + 1
 I'm a huge fan of 5.10 from all the way back to when I used to climb and they were the shoes to have !! But since Adidas has bought them out and has started hacking the brand apart I'm done with buying shoes from them. Lots of other brands making great shoes.
  • + 1
 Crazy nice thing of switching to flats was that i could wear my 2007's impacts. Also bought new ones from 2017 and used them only for a week.
Seriously, what to buy next? For me 5.10 is not an option? Who's there with the grip, quality and, ok, large weight?
  • + 1
 I bought pair of 5.10 impact high, some older model. I use them almost daily, I went to few trips into alps riding and hiking and after two years they look just like new, just sole is a bit worn out. My buddy bought newer model last fall, and they started to fall apart and he got them replaced under warranty. I don't know what to buy for my next shoe, any recomendations?
  • + 1
 Same here ! in warmer days i've had herpes from them , i bought a pair last august and now we're in mid may and the outsoles broke in half and since then i've discovered how thin is the outsole compared to a regular shoe , hence the 618 grams weight and the price ... 140 euros for the thinest piece of rubber between your feet and the ground.
  • + 2
 I like my 510's but may be done with the company. I used to like going to the store in redlands to try stuff on. Used to like the webside with some good clearance deals. 510 apparel, hats...
  • + 1
 I had delam issues at well, and they were like sponges in the wet (older impacts), so I've gone with 2FOs. 1st pair was pretty good - got 2 yrs before sole was 2 holy to ride. 2nd pair now is a bit stickier and seem to be holding up well. & the wider last fits my feet better than the 5-10Es...
  • + 1
 5 10s are as core when riding as my bike. I've had many pairs over the years and all have held up well. No complaints and no plans in changing as long as I keep getting the quality and function. I do miss the higher ankle support.
  • + 1
 I've had two pairs of impacts and neither has lasted more that a couple of months. I had a much less grippy harder sole shoe in between but that didn't last much longer. I've given up on flat pedals and got my self a pair of mallets.
  • + 1
 every 5 10 i have owned the sole has separated from the shoe long before the shoe is done , one pair lasted all of one month thats about six rides , chain reaction replaced them thanks ! .....they are still in the box un used .
  • + 2
 Got the first impact model 5.10 for nearly a decade of moderate use, i am not predicting a year for the new freeriders i got few months ago, the pins are eating them. Seems quality is going down.
  • + 1
 100+ Park Trips and 3 seasons on my Freeriders and they are still going, at least a half season left in them shopping for replacements now but it sounds like I ended up with a rare pair of Freeriders...
  • + 4
 Coming from skateboarding - MTB shoes lasts a long time in comparison
  • + 2
 Oh, yes! That's really true. If I was skating a lot, I'd rip through shoes so fast. Especially when I moved to using vicious griptape on some boards. I'd always try and shoe-goo every sole so that they got some more life. I would also rip up the laces too.
  • + 0
 Always wore five ten and I don't think i'll ever wear another shoe for riding except sk8-Hi's. I'm on my second pair of impact xvi's because the first ones actually delaminated after 2 years or so, five ten replaced them for free! The only problem with the xvi's and five ten shoes in general is that they have a bit more arch support built in which is really uncomfortabe for people with flat feet. Leads to pressure points and sore feet while riding, but the grip, all worth it. I think I'll be picking up a pair of these in the future though
  • + 3
 I love how they don't use leather and make it sound it's an upgrade. On a 160$ shoe.
  • + 2
 they're much, much less absorbent than the original Impacts"

Using sponges as shoes would be less absorbent than the original impacts.
  • + 0
 guess i'm doing something wrong... Love my 5-10s but the sole is normally not useable anymore after just some two or three week of riding (tours & xc-loops, not shuttles/bikepark).... :'(
Tried more or less shoe - pedal combinations i could think of ^^
  • + 2
 Just when I was thinking maybe they fixed the sole delamination issue and they bust out ugly camo and gold color options. All black was fine, one step at a time guys.
  • + 0
 Love my Freerider Pros, but the sole isn't the strongest long term. I've had mine for over a year now though, and they're holding up well.
My freerider elements are great short commute shoes & Shop shoes.
  • + 1
 @mikekazimer, why would you want a velcro strap on a flat pedal shoe? Not for the looks I hope? Or to disguise them like spd shoes? No but serious, why?
  • + 1
 i use my 5.10 freerides every day to walk in and ride, they are 2 years old and still rock. they stick to my crank bros Stamps like velcro
  • + 3
 I think I'll stick to my $20 DC shoe sales
  • + 1
 Love mine. I used the 2FO for ages and liked its lightness and drying time- these are virtually as fast drying, as light and the grip is savage. Glad I made the switch.
  • - 1
 How hard is it for some companies to understand that vast majority of Mtb shoes should have a higher cut around the inside ankle, lik Mike points out? Like Shimano does! BTW Race Face should finance 50% of R&D costs with their ankle scalping turbine, aeffect and atlas cranks.

510 bring back Raven!
  • + 2
 Bring back the kovariks!
  • + 1
 + 1000
I have impact vxi and they are great except why on earth would they take such a beefy shoe and cut such a deep scallop out on the inside?
My ankle bones get the ever loving #@$& beaten out of them .

The giro good riddance mid seems to have really gotten the ankle protection right. Not much availability yet though at least in North America. Frown
  • + 0
 get 3 years out of mine first year they are great second year like a drunk at a bar and a bit scruffy 3rd year like a crack whore holes and scatted apart but still doing the job
  • - 1
 Love all my 510’s. From hiking boots to water shoes to all the mtb shoes. They should still use the VXi and allow riders to have it as a option if they want. If I’m out playing I like the S1 sole but for flat out speed through really rough sections nothing compared to the VXi for me.
  • + 1
 totally agree with @mikekazimer: make them cover the inside ankle and add a velcro strap and they'd be near perfect
  • + 1
 I've been wanting to try these, but I'm having the toughest time finding a place that has these in stock.
  • + 1
 So they finally addressed the delamination huh..?
My shoe repair guy is gonna lose a lotta biz over this :-0
  • + 1
 Low quality shoes. I had the San hill version and it didn't rest more Than a month $140 that I waste
  • + 1
 Classic comments from everyone here about everything but the shoes being reviewed.
  • + 1
 Garbage. Mine started to delaminate after about 10 rides. I will never buy 5.10s again.
  • + 2
 Hill says cool!!
  • - 1
 Hill says free!
  • + 3
 Jack says yeah!
  • + 2
 @Boardlife69: sorry, accidently downvoted you. Yeaaahhh, nnaahhhh.
  • + 1
 So which flat pedal shoes should I actually buy now?
  • + 1
 Is there a real alternative ?
  • + 1
 Is the Stealth S1 rubber just as grippy as the Mi6 on the VXI's?
  • + 1
 I wish they stayed Mi6. Mi6 is grippier
  • + 1
 Great boots - just fix the bloody glue guys!
  • + 1
 Anyone tried the Bontrager Flatline yet? Might give it a shot.
  • + 1
 Please bring back the White Tiger design for the Freeriders 5:10
  • + 1
 Afton flat shoes review please
  • + 1
 Five tens, the only shoes that can smell like dead rats when wet
  • + 0
 One year? My sole fallen apart after 2 months!!!!
  • + 1
 And sold out.

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