Five Ten Sam Hill 3 Shoes - Review

Jul 25, 2016
by Olly Forster  
Five Ten Sam Hill 3 shoes Review. Photo Ben Winder

Before Five Ten's 'Stealth rubber' shoes showed up some fifteen years ago, the flat pedal shoe market was nonexistent. Five Ten changed all of that, and their shoes certainly helped a group of DH racers in the mid-'00s, many of whom would go on to win some of the most memorable World Cup and world championship victories to date. While the shoes they wore may have long since left the shelves, that iconic sole is back...

The original bike shoe from Five Ten was the Impact Low and while it went through a series of refinements over the course of its long life - who can forget the rad Intense Cycles editions and the widely hated suede model, which quickly turned brown at the first sign of mud - the sole design (pattern, compound, and shape) remained the same throughout. Its over-built and somewhat marmite aesthetics combined with its portly weight and ability to soak up a wet trail in seconds were often overlooked by many as they represented the only viable option for aggressive riding and downhill racing.

Five Ten Sam Hill 3 Details:
• Stealth S1 rubber outsole
• Slingshot heel for a secure fit
• Stitched and reinforced toe cap protection
• Waterproof polypropylene insole board for increased longevity
• Compression-molded polyurethane midsole
• Fast-drying synthetic upper
• Weight: 1192g (Size 10US)
• Sizes: 5 - 14US
• MSRP: $160
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After a two-year hiatus from Five Ten's portfolio, they're back and sporting a host of refinements to bring them up to date, not to mention remedying many of the negatives associated with their predecessor.

Five Ten Sam Hill 3 shoes Review. Photo Olly Forster
At first glance, they're a familiar sight, but look closer and you're looking at a completely new shoe.


The new Sam Hill 3 is based on the original and aforementioned, Impact Low, but for 2016 it's packing a host of updates. A faster drying synthetic upper is a welcome update, and thankfully the days of drying that were previously required now been reduced to a few hours somewhere dry and warm. But the best thing is that uppers repel a good dose of water and rarely became soaked through, even on days smashing through puddles. The new toe box is similar to the Impact VXi and is a nice addition as well, but just make sure you find the right size as a reinforced toe box can be painful if you're half a size out.


Five Ten Sam Hill 3 shoes Review. Photo Olly Forster
The Sam Hill 3's feel resoundingly tougher than the VXi's.
Five Ten Sam Hill 3 shoes Review. Photo Olly Forster
One of the most proven products still in use today: the Stealth S1 sole.


Sam Hill 3 vs. Impact VXi

After a long stint in their catalogue, the team at Five Ten turned their attention to a successor for the tried and trusted Impact. That shoe was the Impact VXi. Launched in 2014, the VXi promised to pick up the baton left by the original Impact and run with it, which they did for many riders who welcomed their lightweight build, quick drying credentials, modern materials, super sticky sole and heightened bike feel. But not everyone felt the same way, most notably, a professional downhill racer called Sam Hill...


Five Ten Sam Hill 3 shoes Review. Photo Olly Forster
Two very different designs and two different rubber compounds with the VXi (bottom) sporting the softer Mi6 sole.


Of all the riders synonymous with flat pedals, it is, of course, Sam Hill - the rider whose riding style and subsequent victories influenced a host of riders to adopt flat pedals in a bid to emulate his wild style. But for Sam, a rider who's spent his entire professional career on the same shoe sole, the VXi didn't quite cut it. At high speeds, the level of grip, even though the rubber is softer on the new VXi, simply wasn't enough. Sam stuck with the older and at this stage, out-of-production, Impact, throughout the '14 season, all the while the team at Five Ten were busy creating the shoes Sam, and indeed a few others, like Brendan Fairclough and Joe Smith, always wanted. That same old iconic Stealth Rubber sole was to make a return to the fold, but this time mated to a new upper boasting a host of modern upgrades with a view to breath fresh life into this iconic product.


Five Ten Sam Hill 3 shoes Review. Photo Olly Forster
The lighter VXi's weigh 796g for a pair, size 10 US and...
Five Ten Sam Hill 3 shoes Review. Photo Olly Forster
the Sam Hill 3's, a staggering 396g more at 1192g for a pair.


While both shoes nod their caps to the gravity slayers out there and effectively do the same job, jumping between the Sam Hill 3s and the VXis on the same pedals and on the same trails, shows just how contrasting these two shoes are side by side. The VXi's are noticeably lighter and offer an unrivaled connection to your pedals thanks to their super soft Mi6 compound rubber used on the sole and a more compliant sole shank. That does, however, come at the cost of increased rates of wear and tear as anyone who's owned a pair can attest to. I found that the VXi's shone on a variety of gravity fed trails and particularly, those of a bike park nature, especially ones with lots of jumps where 'feeling' your pedals was an advantage. But on fast, rough-and-ready DH style trails littered with rocks and roots, I struggled in places to keep my feet planted on the VXi's. The Sam Hill's on the other hand, are stiffer, heavier and took a few rides to get into, not to mention break-in. While I felt they were more comfortable out of the box than the VXi and better sized - the VXi's do come up a touch on the big side - the stiff sole was especially noticeable when hiking up sections of trail. Thankfully this didn't last long.


Undisclosed trail southwest England. Photo Ben Winder.
The Sam Hill 3's are a thoroughbred gravity racing shoe.
Madeira 2016. Photo Daniel Roos
Impact VXi's are light enough for trail bikes and days in the park.


The marginally harder compound Stealth S1 compound outer sole and stiffer shank found on the Sam Hill 3's did come into play on fast and loose DH trails, but only on pedals with aggressive platforms loaded with large pins. Teamed up with some suitably grippy pedals such as Burgtec's inimitable MK4 Penthouse Flats, Nukeproof's deadly Horizons and Deity's monstrous TMACs, which I used throughout testing, the Sam Hill 3's unique sole shape and pattern could retain contact even on rough trails where losing a foot was an inevitability, but less of an issue. The trick with the Sam Hill 3 shoes is to not think about what your feet are doing, which can be hard on flats sometimes, and to just focus on the trail as the unique shape of the sole does a fantastic job of finding grip across the various points of your pedal. And because they are made from a marginally harder compound, repositioning your feet after a dab or a wobble is much easier.


Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesGiven their credentials, the VXi is perhaps more suitable for a larger proportion of riders out there looking for a gravity orientated flat pedal shoe. They're significantly lighter, grippier and work well in a variety of scenarios and conditions. But for riders who charge hard, ride by the seat of their pants, and care little about where their feet are on their pedals the Sam Hill 3's trump the VXi's on all counts. It's no surprise that the likes of Sam Hill and the other flat pedal fans on the World Cup circuit prefer this iconic sole over the newer VXi offering. Thanks to some fresh upgrades, Five Ten have brought these classic shoes back to the fore. - Olly Forster




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137 Comments

  • + 86
 Five tens quality has suffered drastically of late. Just got two pairs of warranty shoes and I'm already watching the freerider xvi's sole delaminate. If they're going to charge that much, the quality should back it up. I tried the speshy shoe the 2FO and it held up way better but def wasn't as sticky. The old impacts and SH's held up waaaaay better for me.
  • + 27
 soooo true , there is nothing good about 5/10 except for the sole , quality sucks in a big way !
  • + 32
 bring back the Karver!
  • + 8
 The 2FO sole grips less and wears out faster. A dab of superglue fixes the impacts. I own both shoes. I agree that quality could always improve.
  • + 4
 @nojzilla: Yes! I've hooked a few laces on roots in the past... lil bit sketchy at speed. Not to mention lace covers just make sense in the wet. I'm having to add duct tape to my current pair cause i can even find clearouts anymore.
  • + 4
 @nojzilla:

still rocking my Karvers - been wearing them for summer trail clearing maintenance - mainly raking and cutting back foliage, can't do that comfortably in the disco boots (spds') Wink
  • + 11
 So disappointed to hear that, my last pair of free riders were the best quality shoes I've ever owned. In fact the sole was the first to go - still grippy as hell but they eventually developed holes where my pins went through so not great for the uk as I always seemed to encounter some water no matter what season. This article got me thinking about some new ones but now I'm not so sure.
  • + 3
 I haven't noticed any problems with quality with my Five Tens. Been running Hellcats for almost a year and a half now, some Freerider's for my flat pedal days and Maltese Falcon's. The only failure I had was a steel clip for the velcro band on the Hellcats snapping (probably my fault for cinching it up too tight), but they're a full lace up, so I simply unpicked the stitching on the strap and used a lacing method that locks down the top part of the shoe to stop heel slip.
Admittedly, these were all bought about a year ago, sad to hear newer versions have suffered since then.
  • + 11
 Agreed. The sole delamination is a huge pain in the ass. I have 4 sets of delaminate 5.10. I need to take them to the local shoe shop to see if they can sort them out.
  • + 9
 Agree 100%. I've had a pair of old white and green Sam Hill's and Black Low Impacts and both delaminated their soles well before the sticky rubber or remaining structure started to deteriorate. My old suede hi tops are still going. Changed to clips now and no issue with Hellcats but 510 quality has dropped a lot after Adidas bought the company.
  • + 14
 Wish Teva was still around
  • + 15
 Adidas needs to get their shit together! I paid nearly £90 for my freerider elements about 6 months ago and despite not being used massively regularly, they are already developing holes. Don't think I will buy another set
  • + 4
 @ThomDawson: I'm in the same boat, my soles have started wearing through, Mackaskill Freeriders. Besides that though they're doing very well through 3 British winters. But they have the same issue as the old Impacts, they can take on several litres of water in half a second.
  • + 2
 @Zaff: I had the same thing happening to my hellcats on both shoes
  • + 10
 Spot on, used the RF atlas pedals with quite pointy spikes. Chewed through the sole in 7 days. They amount of sticky sole is like a maxxis flyweight innertube. Such a shame that Adidas who bought 5_10 is making a less good product, all in the name of profit margin. Every sole will eventually get chewed up, but 5_10 just don't last as they used to. They still have the best compound, and they know it. I used the Tevas, the grip is by far not the same. But the shoe lasts way longer. Even Vans lasts longer.
  • + 7
 Hopefully five ten upgraded the sole glue with these new impacts. My last pair literally fell apart after about a year with barely any wet days on them. Usually I get 4-5 years out of a pair but these are toast already and still look brand new. I was going to send them back but found a pair of VXI for very cheap. So far they have 0 issues and feel like half the weight. Arriva durchi impacts!
  • + 3
 I had the same problem with my Sam Hills.. I used gorilla glue's thick super glue to glue the soles back on..
  • + 3
 My previous set of Sam Hill 5-10s delaminated within the first year but I managed to fix them enough with glue/shoe goo. They needed various repairs/surgeries to keep them going. I didn't want to deal with less protective Freeriders (great for trail riding or walking around, but not DH), so I stuck with them.

I managed to get a pair of the new (reviewed) version in the Spring, and I've been super happy with them so far. They've clipped roots and rocks at high speed and look like nothing's happened to them. And the added stitching across the toe is keeping the sole on (so far), always a plus.

This new version is awesome and I tip my hat in their general direction.
  • + 5
 Yea my vxi's shat themselves in 2 months with the soles tearing in half and falling off, then after battling with them for 8 months of warranties went back to clips, again the vxi clipless edition. Thought i'd be safe from the same issue seeing they were the clip version. But no, rubber yet again coming off even on the clips. Bloody crap quality. Problem is they've gotten rid of significant weight which is great but they are doing it at the price of durability. They've gotten rid of stitching on a far thicker sole which would more likely stand the test of time.. Problem is they've got Adidas on board i believe to produce there products, which makes things cheaper for them, but less cheerful for us
  • + 4
 The old lizard skin Sam Hills were in a different class compared to the newer 5.10s Quality has gone down hill in a big way.
  • + 4
 Bought a set of 5-10 'Freerider' shoes. Sole delaminated on both shoes after 10 rides. Contacted Pushys who contacted the Distributer - didn't want to know about it. An over-priced shoe with a litany of quality issues. MTB products and reliability –now that’s a contradiction.
  • + 1
 @nojzilla: I've got a nearly new pair of Karvers, I never really got on with them. I bought them to replace a trashed pair of Shimano AM41's. They looked like they were a stronger build than the AM's. But they were so much heavier and bulkier. I ended up buying another pair of AM, as I much prefer the feel of them.
  • + 6
 @Arnon: you hit the nail on the head, I give the new bred of 5/10's five outta ten
  • + 3
 @poozank: I have the 2fo but the clipless and I prefer them to my hellcats for all riding....and the 2fo has a lifetime warranty. bonus
  • + 1
 @Zaff: the clip broke on mine as well after around 6 months. Running the Impact VXi's now and they're so much better.
  • + 2
 I had the same problem with a set of the new freerides. 5.10 did how ever send me out a new pair pretty quickly.
  • + 3
 @tblore: I still have two pairs of Teva Links, when I go back to back with the my five tens; the stickiness of the sole is night and day 5.10;s having a superior edge. Unfortunately it seems the Five Ten soles wear a hell of a lot quicker then a couple years ago
  • + 5
 It's the XVI rubber. Too soft and it falls apart. I wish they made the Impact XVI with a Stealth rubber sole.
  • + 2
 I had the old SH impact (got them ~7 years ago) and changed them for Impact VXi last year. ~60 rides later, I chewed completely through the Impact VXi' soles (I can see the foam layer through the holes in the sole) and a significant amount of "knobs" are gone. Meanwhile, my girlfriend is still riding the old SH impacts after ~250 rides and they still look ok.

They're like 200$ after taxes, I sure ain't f*cking paying that again if they're only going to last a season. I'm 100% sold to flats but with shimano shoe's toebox being too narrow for me, I might have to go back to clipless. uuugh, not many other alternatives.
  • + 3
 These comments make me love my 2007 5.10's that much more. Plenty of life left too.
  • + 2
 Freerider Contacts, about 6 months into what is shaping to be one of my least intense riding seasons due to lack of time, already developed holes on the inner side of the sole, straight through the rubber compound and down to the hard plastic underneath. Not impressed, given that with a different pair of flat shoes from another brand that only happened after about three years of intense riding. Looks like I'll have to look for a different brand of shoes again...
  • + 3
 My old freeriders were crazy durable. 4 years and looked really beat up but still useable. Got a new pair of freeriders last year and within months the upper ripped open and they were unwearable. Same pedals and same trails. Really hesitant now to drop over 100 bucks on another pair of five tens. I've been searching the net for the older freeriders but they're hard to find now.
  • + 1
 @NMK187: I have freeriders with the stealth sole and it's still looking really chewed up after 6 months
  • + 1
 edit: duplicate
  • + 2
 Ever since Adidas took over....
  • + 1
 @betsie: hi betsie, i have the same issue 2 pairs of fubarred XVI's after very little use, and 2 pairs of 2fos, i sent mine to feetfirst resoles.............. www.resoles.co.uk for £45 + 8 p&p certainly aint cheap, but... what you get is a super clean and professional job resoling the trainer of your choice with either original stealth dotty or the newer crappy mi6. the first pair of 5.10 and 2fo i sent cost me £100 all in but i have 2 fabulous and fairly bombproof riding shoes for less than half the price of buying new sub-standard shoes. 6 months in and they are performing great, and have just sent my other two pairs i used for race days (xvi and 2fo as well) off to get their first resole. yes i will have 4 riding trainers now.... effectively 2 pairs for dry and wet training/play days an 2 pair for dry and wet race days. the XVI's are beyond a joke from new, the first pair delaminated after 6 rides and the 2nd pair i got under warranty and kept for race days only and have seen about 13 race days and are now gubbed. i have a pal at work with xvi's and all he does is a 3 mile road commute to work and back and 1 year in, the soles are gubbed. in that instance an original set of impact should have lasted him 5 years at least . feet first resole...... do it you will not be dissapointed!! i will send you a couple of photos to you inbox
  • + 2
 @tblore: I have two pairs of teva the links, two pair 5 10's and a pair of 2FO's. Teva's, very comfortable but not the grippiest. 5 10's, very grippy, but take ages to dry out and not the most comfortable. 2FO's, I love them, comfortable, grippy, dry fast but don't wear em in a British winter as your feet will freeze!
  • + 1
 @ballardski: ha lol, totally true on that last comment about the 2fo's
  • + 1
 I dig the five-tens, I agree that their quality has suffered greatly. I think with every pair you should get a complementary tube of Shoe Goo and a generous supply of Duct Tape.
  • + 1
 Only problem I've had with my 5/10's is when they were left out in the sun and it was 40deg in the shade that day... Soles delaminated but that was user error, other than that never had a problem
  • + 1
 @ballardski: How are the 2FOs? Gripwise especially?, I actually never heard of them (odd!?) but according to the image they look exactly what I'm looking for.
  • + 1
 @PLC07: just standard grip, nothing amazing, nothing awful
  • + 1
 @nojzilla: I'm still running with the Karver and still have a new pair waiting for when they wear out. Wish now that I had bought 2 extra pairs instead of one extra pair when I read that they were not making them any more.
  • + 1
 We can all agree that 5.10's quality has gone downhill, but the real question is where do we turn now? What company makes shoes that will last 5 years and have a soul that grips like stealth rubber?
  • + 1
 @PLC07: Grip wise, not on a par with 5 10, but very good all the same. They also cut up a bit more! A fab shoe for the summer, prob not so when the temp drops as they are very very breathable and let water in too easily. But when they do get wet, in a couple of hours they will be dry. Comfortable as well!!
  • + 1
 @ballardski: That's what I'm looking for, breathable. I ride XC on flats and the 5-10 are needlessly hot/bulky and they don't breathe at all. Thanks! Shimano's AM45 toebox is too narrow for me, hopefully those will fit.
  • + 1
 @Bird-Man: I love the clipless 2fo, the flat version is sketchy. I love the shoe, but the grip is sub par. Maybe a 5/10 sole hack? Smile
  • + 1
 @SpeedMetalArmy: yup..................... feetfirst @ www.resoles.co.uk will send you a photo, surely to hell theres a company in canada that can do the same job?????
  • + 1
 @forkbrayker: Gaahhhhh!!!! Awesome!!
Anyone know where to get that done locally?(BC)
  • + 37
 My original impacts lasted until my pedals actually ate a hole through the sole. Can't say the same thing for the last 5 pairs. What happened to your quality Five-Ten? The soles start to de-laminate from the toe after about 2 months. Got tired of re-gluing them so bought my last pair from MEC in March. Just go in every 2 months now and get a new pair. Heading down this week to get the new ones.
  • + 5
 Strangely familiar.....!
  • + 10
 Adidas bought them and the quality has been sh*t since. Teva links are really great quality. The only problem is the concave diamond pattern of the sole. Grips great when new, but the pattern gets ripped up and loses grip.
  • + 3
 They sure have you as a customer. It would probably be a good thing if a company like Shimano(they already seem to make good clipless shoes, gear, and apparel) made flat shoes that were quality, because it sucks having shoes fall apart.
  • + 4
 Same with skate/bmx shoes, vans etnies. They've turned into super expensive plimsolls lately. That wear out super quick. The faster they wear out the faster riders need new shoes = more $!!
  • + 3
 @nojzilla: Vans are sixty bucks.
  • + 1
 @inter71: plimsolls are about £5
No way I'm paying £50-70 for glorified plimpsoles
  • + 1
 @nojzilla: That's too bad. They're cheap here.
  • + 30
 Quality is that bad I will no longer buy 5/10.
Such a shame as they 'were' the best.
Should be called 5 to 10 rides to delaminate.
  • + 30
 Wait, does Sam Hill ride flats?
  • + 21
 Who's Sam Hill?
  • - 13
flag poozank (Jul 25, 2016 at 22:19) (Below Threshold)
 @lostlunchbox: HES THE FLAT PEDAL MAN FLATS FLATS FLATS
  • + 30
 @poozank: Never heard of him. Does he ride bicycles too?

And please stop screaming at me. It hurts my eyeballs.
  • + 10
 Come on guys use some logic. With a name like Hill I bet he is great ridding on the flat ground. Maybe flat land BMX.
  • + 5
 What is a bike? I'm from Uranus and have not heard of these things.
  • + 4
 What year is it?!?!
  • + 7
 I think he's E-bike hill climb Champion
  • + 11
 Brought impact VX!s, was super stoked on the fit but the sole started peeling off on the outside after just one lap of the bikepark so I took them back and traded for shimanos. Not confidence inspiring when 510s cant even hold up for a single run.
  • + 9
 i find this comparison not so great. ive had 3 pairs of warrantied vxi in the past year and finally settled on these new Sam hills cause I was sick of sending them back. new Sam hills are as durable as the old and alot more comfortable on long descents. i would highly recommend the Sam hills. heavier yes but wayyyyyyy more durable
  • + 7
 I've had 3 pair of 510 shoes now, 510 impacts, 510 freeriders (old skool) and Karvers. I decided to try something else this year. I got a pair of Adidas Terrex Solo shoes with the Stealth soles. They're sick! Nobody knows about them yet. They have a stiff sole for climbing rocks, and they have the grip of 510 shoes. I've been using them for XC and jumping this year. I still wear my Karvers for DH, just because I don't want the purdy Adidas getting jacked up on DH stuff. They're more of a narrow fit, so you actually get a ton of room on your pedals to place your feet.
If you get some, make sure you get the ones that have the triangle blocks on the bottom. I also ordered another pair of the same shoe, but they came with a different tread pattern. They aren't as grippy or stiff, so they're my new blingy casual shoe.
www.rei.com/product/866101/adidas-terrex-solo-stealth-hiking-shoes-mens?cm_mmc=cse_PLA_GOOG-_-8661010022&CAWELAID=120217890000857615&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=15997807960&CATCI=pla-70845381400&lsft=cm_mmc:cse_PLA_GOOG&gclid=CPCInLOYkc4CFUUkhgodzQwMMw
Also, Adidas is making a crosstrail shoe. I still haven't seen them on the trail yet, but they'll probably be pretty awesome. They look way better than any 510 shoe out there.
www.6pm.com/adidas-outdoor-terrex-trail-cross-white-black-vista-grey?gclid=CK6T5peZkc4CFcFbhgodky0DzA&zhlfid=139&kpid=34172358&ef_id=V4-f6wAABJIaPjjU:20160726130651:s
  • + 2
 Thanks for information!
  • + 1
 Looks different, same manufacturing problems, same shoes.
  • + 0
 @SteveDekker: I haven't had any issues with mine. They've been a great change from the fugly 510s that are overly bulky and hot. I know there were a few delam issues on some of the reviews, but they were taken care of for free. That didn't deter me from trying them out.
  • + 4
 Great to hear the stiffer sole is back, can you now give me back my stiffer sole from the Freerider VXI rather than the jelly you seem to have put into the Freerider Contacts. Some of us like the stiffer sole and don't do that much walking in them. I tried the Mi6 and didn't like it that much either.
  • + 4
 5 10s suck now that Adidas bought them. I have a pair of old karvers 4 years old and still good, yes they are heavy but there not falling apart. Every other pair i have bought since the sole has worn out within two months. I only expect to get a season or a little more out of a pair but for what they cost now they should last way longer. Every year since Adidas bought them the price has gone up about $30 every year, impact low use to be $99 now there $215.I now ride shimano.
  • + 3
 Stay away from the Impact VXi. I loved my sam hills, tried the VXi and could not keep my feet on the pedals over rough terrain in Mammoth. I thought it was my new HT flats, but after 3 days and gooning out, i tried my sam hills on again (worn out but still solid) and bam, was riding fine again.
  • + 2
 My feet swell up i can`t even get a pair on so i use skate shoes like no fear or van`s cheap as chips but fooking brilliant last way longer and i ride in them walk in them and at a tiny price of 20 quid there the dogs? and still going after a year of abuse from my swollen pudds!!
  • + 1
 Really? my vans last about 2-3 months of riding before they start falling apart and the soles get holes in. But I guess the pedals, riding frequency and style makes a difference too.
  • + 4
 Nothing beats a pair of these. Super durable, stiff, and obviously grippy. Glad they have had the same overall design for the past years because its a winner of a product.
  • + 1
 Can't all you want about the quality since addidas took over. Addidas see there planned obsolescence in action will only be confirmation that they are on the right track. Until some one else comes to the plate with a good sticky shoe you can expect more of the same
  • + 4
 Five tens are a great disposable shoe; after 3 months they fall apart so they never get super stinky! Genius!
  • + 2
 I cant rate them because I don't own them, the price puts me off. Its my opinion that we really need to see some decent competition in the flat pedal shoe market, that way quality should improve and prices fall.
  • + 1
 Ha. Like XC shoes have so much competition that a good pair costs you $400?
  • + 1
 Lake needs to bring back the Schleys, but with sticky rubber.
  • + 1
 I got a pair of the 5-10 high top cyclones for clipless riding. Bought em on clearance 2years ago. Been beating the hell out of them. No issues. I like the feeling of having protection around my toes and ankle support when riding through PA style gnar. My little boy is on his second pair of spitfires that he uses for trail riding and bmx, even goes to school in them sometimes. Best most durable shoes he's ever had.
  • + 1
 Why the hell, can't Five Ten just make a pair of Impacts that have the old Freerider stiching, all the way around the entire shoe. I had 2 pairs of Impacts, dealt with delamination on both pairs, got sick of it and bought the Freeriders because of the stiching. Now, 2 years later, the sides have held up about perfectly, but I've worn thru the rubber on the soles of the shoes. Looks like I'm buying another ''old'' freerider set, because the new ones don't hold up for shit.

www.anotherbikeshop.com/product/five-ten-five-ten-freerider-1548.htm

Make a frigging pair of impacts that use the stiching like that Five ten. I will buy them.
  • + 1
 Since when are the Suede ones hated?! Those were the only ones that actually lasted & didn't start having sole peel, or the sides start flaking & showing white fuzz underneath. At this point, I'm considering pulling out my old pair & getting a dot resole kit.
  • + 2
 Agreed too. The sole delamination is a huge pain in the ass. I have 4 sets of delaminate 5.10. I need to take them to the local shoe shop to see if they can sort them out. Terrible quality. I waste my money.
  • + 1
 Funny how there's a few comments regarding looks... that brick on your foot can come off in a few seconds, purple broken toe takes about a month to go away.

Ugly? Yes. Heavy? Yes. Hot? Pretty much. But after 6 years on shin killer pedals my old Impact highs are in great condition and have saved my soles, ankles, & toes more times than I can count. Stiff enough for midsole support but still some feel on the pedal, set 'em & forget 'em. My feet are about the only thing I don't have to think about on the fly.
  • + 1
 Sounds like some good improvements. Strange that nobody has mentioned issues w the lacing of the previous shoe. Those loops always tore on me and I'd be left w a few loops and longer laces to do up the shoe. Hopefully the new eyelets last much longer!!
  • + 1
 Impact delamination... The last pair I received from a delamination warantee issue is now holding up well. Hope they fixed the issue. The Impact is a great design minus the delamination issue. One of the few shoes made to keep your feet warm for those riding in the cold and wet - I hate mesh on shoes! Comfortable enough to wear around off the bike. Light enough for trail riding. And, a simple black color, with a simple lace design.
  • + 1
 I bought a pair of maltese falcons about two months back because I had heard nothing but great reviews. Within 5 rides the sole started to delaminate, the stiching around the toe came out, the shoelaces had become unrecognizable. Sad to hear I'm not alone, its such a shame....
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 I am headed to whistler next week and my LAKE dh shoes are finally too old after EIGHT years. I don't like what I'm reading in these comments. I can't see that lake makes dh shoes anymore. at that price I don't see fice tens being worth it. Anyone know of any other decent brands? Also is it a horrible idea to buy shoes in whistler? I can see prices being higher...
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 Just take your favorite pair of stiff soled sneakers, some glue, and an old inner tube. securely glue a piece of tube where you contact the pedal and that should stay stuck there for at least as long as a new pair of addidas/5.10s
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 I thought I was done with 5.10s after my VXis lasted as well as a pair of slippers. Glad to see a more durable option return. I'm far from a good rider and I wouldn't recommend VXis to anyone who isn't getting their shoes for free.
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 If you have wide feet or if your toes are straight than don't get these shoes! Why didn't they keep the same round toebox of freeride line? I have a brand new pair for work which I'm unable to use because the narrow toebox pinches my toes and cause great discomfort!
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 Fix it adidas I really love 510s
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 I've been keeping my Sam Hills only for when it really matters and got a pair of vxis for everyday riding. Glad new Sam Hills are out. BTW my original suede versions outlasted two pairs of the second generation Impacts which split across the sole months. I agree with everyone who says quality can be improved but I prefer to have the best gripping shoes in the world.
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 Is that stitching on the toe finally? My current Sam Hill's are coming unglued, as usual.
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 YES. The article fails to mention it, which is strange because that's one of the new features that most fans of the OG impacts will recognize and welcome, along with the fast drying hydrophobic outsole. @ollyforster @FiveTen ... next time send me the shoes and I will review them without missing an important detail such as this Wink
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 @MmmBones: it was 'mentioned' in the 'details' at the beginning of the article and the stitching was present on the 2014 Impact Low. Pretty sure I touched on how fast they dried too, but I guess you can't please everyone...
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 @ollyforster: you 'mentioned' the sewn toebox, not the sewn front of the sole, which used to come unglued and flappy on OG impacts and Sam Hill 1 & 2's, whilst the toebox has always been sewn on. I guess that feature is carried over from previous generations of Impacts, but not on the previous Sam Hill model. I was merely citing the hydrophobic feature as one of the two most noticeable updates, not that you didn't mention it... But I digress, It was a well written article and I just want free shoes.
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 @MmmBones: all feedback is good man!
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 I had good memories of my old impacts and after I wore through the sole on the vxi's after 18 months, thought I'd give them a go, i'd only worn them a few rides and went back to my holey sole vxi's as the weight is crazy, I use flats for pedalling too though. Granted for some dh laps they're fine, and come the bad weather i'll dig them out again, but for the summer i'm back to the vxi's with extra vents in the sole!
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 I'm surprised people aren't more stoked on the Freerider VXI and Freerider Contact, I can understand if you live in a wet area, but dry-as$ California they work great. The smooth section allows readjustment, nothing worse than feeling like your foot is stuck in the wrong position when you're hitting jumps.
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 I'm happy with mine. The VXI elements are great for riding in the wet. Dry by the next day and they stay relatively light and airy. I switch to Impacts for shuttling and when max grip is needed. 5.10 has 'em all on closeout now - www.fiveten.com/us/closeouts/bike
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 i have a pair of these for riding static.evanscycles.com/production/clothing/shoes/product-image/969-638/nike-6-0-air-insurgent-shoes-00123603-9999-1.jpg for 3 years now, great shoe and costed me about 40usd
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 OLD impacts FTW ... FU adidas !
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 I have a pair of Sam's 3, tons of grip (on spank's spike), even have to take my feet out to change position :O you can plant your feet hard on the floor if you desire... it's not a problem.
Weight.. no comment.. i don't notice the difference.. (just by Weight)
My only con... Be aware.. by air time, the pedal felling goes away, U will get the pedal in the shin, if you don't keep that in mind (and the feet where it should) .. I've had slip's by hard landing's, being specific.. landings with holes, if u land with half feet and don't notice.. u'll get it on the shin Wink ..

I'm happy with them anyway Smile extends the life time from my BMX shoes x3
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 Ha! I'm still running my '06 Impacts. Never had any problems with them. Comfy, grippy, light enough that it isn't an issue, look good & even now they have heaps of life left in them...
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 These are the most durable 5.10s in the current crop. They also seem to a little wider in the toe department than the regular impact 2s. I burn through a set of freerider type 5.10s pretty fast, like in two months or less. However these last me or three times that.
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 My new Sam hills 3 lasted exactly 3 rides before delamination took over.
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 Still have 2 pairs of Sam Hill Impacts (white/black/green) that I got in 2012. Holding up pretty well. Many years left in them yet. I may pick up a pair of these newer ones before they're gone for good.
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 Is it written somewhere that all bike shoes for flat pedals have to be made like skate shoes from the 90s? Can we maybe get a nice light bike shoe that is good for flat pedals?
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 The Aescent's are very light and ride great: www.fiveten.com/us/aescent-grey-blue
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 Guide tennies work great too.
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 check out the adidas terrex solo shoes with the triangle blocks on the soles and stealth rubber. I use them for XC and jumping. They're great, and they're stiff. Light weight, narrow, not bulky at all.
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 The previous model of impact was more grippier than Sam Hill's model. The midsole of new Hill is too hart to provide a good amount of grip. I'm not really happy about this shoe and i dont recommend my friends to buy them.
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 As long as they last a little over 5 years like my original impacts have lasted me I'm cool with something new. Just don't go fixing what ain't broke! Smile
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 XV's for trail riding and Impacts for bike park
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 Karvers....best shoe Eva!
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 If only they didn't look like something a 65 year old nurse would wear. I'm sure they absolutely kick ass in terms of functionality... But man, are they ASS UGLY!!!
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 I'm sure the shoes are great but they still look like corrective footwear.
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 Love how the stealth soles perform, but these are still as ugly as ever!
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 Look at the trail, not your shoes! Problem solved Smile
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 @lostlunchbox: Ah yes. Heaven forbid something function well AND look good!
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 Someone somewhere is thinking up the next big freeride shoe co..
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 Didn't Adidas buy 5.10? Seems like the quality has dropped since then
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 enduro proved!!! (2nd place) \m/
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 I miss my teva links
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 I still ride on 'em after 3 years. Such a great product. Teva should link it back.
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 @cholla: I have mine still but I forgot about them just long enough over a camp fire and melted one side on each shoe...however the place I was riding in the rain(revelstoke)and the camping location(banff) was amazing so I can't complain.but ya I'd buy them again if I could find my size
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 1/2 Cabs or Freeriders
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 If you love tired feet that feel like they were smacked with a broom stick after riding a rough day of DH.........sure.
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