Flo Payet's XXL Mondraker Summum - Leogang DH World Cup 2018

Jun 8, 2018
by Mike Kazimer  


Flo Payet is one of the tallest racers on the World Cup DH circuit – at 6' 6” even an XL frame is typically too small for him. For that reason, Mondraker created him an XXL front triangle, then attached it to the stock Summum rear end.

It's somewhat surprising to see Flo back on 27.5” wheels after racing at Fort William on a 29” wheeled prototype, but it turns out that he wasn't happy with the suspension feel of that bike. The geometry was well suited to his lanky build, but Flo said it felt like the rear end was getting hung up and slowing the bike down, which isn't what you want when you're trying to win a race. At the moment he feels faster on the smaller-wheeled bike, so that's what he'll be racing on this weekend.

There's a month in between Leogang and the fourth World Cup round in Val di Sole, time that Flo and many of the other World Cup racers will be using to work on bike setup and get things ready to roll for the remainder of the season.


Flo Payet.
Florent Payet // Voul Voul Racing
Age: 31
Hometown: Réunion Island, France
Height: 6' 6" / 197 cm
Weight: 176 lb / 80 kg
Instagram: @flopayet


bigquotesI feel comfortable on the bike – I can move as I want, and I feel more in the middle compared to a classic extra large."Flo Payet

Flo Payet Mondraker Summum
The SR Suntour Rux has been equipped with a custom damper cartridge that provides increased high-speed compression.
Flo's Summum Details

Frame: Aluminum, custom front triangle
Wheel size: 27.5"
Rear travel: 205mm
Wheelbase: 1340mm
Head angle: 62-degrees
Shock: SR Suntour
Fork: SR Suntour Rux, 73 psi,
Wheels: Mavic Deemax
Tires: Schwalbe Magic Mary (r) / Dirty Dan (f)
Drivetrain: Sram XO1 DH / Race Face SixC cranks
Brakes: Formula Cura
Cockpit: Reverse Components

Flo Payet Mondraker Summum
The distance from the front axle to the bottom bracket is 880mm.

Flo Payet Mondraker Summum
Even tall guys trim their bars down, but in this case Flo chopped 10mm off his custom 820mm Reverse bars, bringing the total width down to a mere 810mm.
Flo Payet Mondraker Summum
A 63mm stem from Reverse adds a little more room in the cockpit, and a -1 headset cup slackens the head angle to 62-degrees.

Flo Payet Mondraker Summum
Flo Payet Mondraker Summum
Florent has been working with SR Suntour on various projects for the last three years, including the development of a new DH air shock.


Flo Payet Mondraker Summum
Formula Cura brakes and ODI Elite lock-on grips.

Flo Payet Mondraker Summum
The bike uses a stock Summum rear end, with the chainstay length set to the longest 460mm position. According to Florent, he's comfortable with that number, but is interested in trying something even longer.

Flo Payet Mondraker Summum
Flo Payet Mondraker Summum
SRAM's X01 derailleur and 7-speed cassette are paired with Race Face's carbon SixC cranks.


Flo Payet Mondraker Summum
Add one more hole in the downtube and you might be able to fit a water bottle cage in there...



MENTIONS: @Odigrips, @SRSuntour, @schwalbe, @raceface




89 Comments

  • + 28
 Great to see! As a tall rider myself I am glad to see more and more options for us, especially given the progression of the industry. Lots of long travel 29er options getting longer and longer, that suits me just fine at 6'7''!
  • + 6
 Take a look at the Bird AM9.
  • + 4
 Design inspired by the humpback whale.
  • + 8
 Theres always just summum about these bikes i really like
  • + 4
 Agreed! I'm 6'6", and just built up a Nukeproof Mega 290. The XL has a 515mm reach, and I am using a 50mm stem. It's the first time in my life that I have owned a bike that feels like it actually fits me.
  • + 1
 have a look at pole, bird,sick or starling bikes
  • + 1
 Remove the front seat from a Tandem ?????
  • + 1
 @pacificnorthwet: and the bent seat tube is not an issue? That's what's bothering me with the Mega (even the 27 inch version), since i hate bent/offset seat tubes that, at 800+ mm of seat height, put you effectively over the rear axle. And is the reason why i love the (27 inch) Aeris so much, since it has an effective SA of 76° with a real angle of 74°, which is a minor difference.
  • + 19
 I'm taller than him and my bike is a XL size but damn I weigh 50 kilos more than him,... This guy must be a pencil,...
  • + 3
 Yeah seriously
  • + 2
 When I was racing XC I was around 175, 4% body fat at 6'4....I couldn't get weight on no matter the pizza and ice cream I ate. I was lean an fast but getting to 200 a few years later was a big victory! Ha ha
  • - 1
 @GlassGuy: 4%? Doubt that...
  • - 5
flag YungSketchy (Jun 8, 2018 at 22:20) (Below Threshold)
 @GlassGuy: humble brag, but not really a brag since it's a lie
  • + 2
 @GlassGuy: I believe you man as I was in the same boat till I hit 30years old. Now, a moment on the lips, forever on the hips.
  • + 0
 4% is possible. Got any pics?
  • + 5
 @GlassGuy: all these short guys not believing 4% body fat lol must not understand the struggle of ectomorphs!
  • + 1
 @GlassGuy: I believe it , I am 6' 5" and was running at about 175 last year riding XC
  • + 2
 You silly. @jaame:
  • + 1
 @Finimac: Not doubting in general, just the "4% at 6"4, 175lbs".

Signed, 140lbs at 6"2, DEXA shows ~5-6% BF.
  • + 0
 Any of you guys quoting body fat numbers had a flotation tank session and a cat scan to confirm it, or are you just guessing? I say that because measuring it to a single percentage point accurately isn't possible by eye or by standing on one of those bathroom scales with electrodes.
  • + 1
 @jaame: Doc used calipers on me
  • + 6
 Sick bike for a sick boy !!!!! come on Flo !
  • + 7
 Sick bicycles can be longer
  • + 4
 So what’s the reach on this bad boy ? 500mm? The bike looks long but in reality (if it is 500mm) it’s not actually that big for someone of his size.
  • + 3
 My bike has the same wheelbase and same chainstay length but steeper headangle and it has a reach of 520mm so I bet his bike is probably 510mm. I agree that it isn't long enough for his height and we can see that by the 60mm stem he is running.
  • + 1
 It would have to be at least 530. He is 6'6" and this is Mondraker.
  • + 1
 @alexsin Yeah but their recent DH bikes tend to have to quite short reach compared to their trail bikes so wasn’t sure.
  • + 1
 You’re right 60mm is long for a stem on a DH bike. @SintraFreeride:
  • + 1
 Love Mondrakers for the fit, my Dune XL is just about right, you feel centred and not cramped at all.. and i'm 6'2"
I built up a VantageXR in a L for something a little more nippy, as an XC and general training bike, should have got the XL frame #kickingmyself #gobigorgohome
  • + 3
 Distance from the B.B. to front axle was a regular wheelbase not too long ago. Crackin me up.
  • + 1
 And chainstays the same as reach...
  • + 4
 hurray, tall people rejoice !
  • + 3
 Pole/nikolai longer/longer, and muck balanced, however that bike looks ok, despite 60mm stem
  • + 3
 Hey Pole! We got the man for your bike..
  • + 2
 I wonder if the move SR Suntour suspension has something to do with the bike feeling unsettled?
  • + 2
 Another month off after this race?!!
How do we stay engaged, geesh
  • + 2
 Single seat tandem downhill bike
  • + 2
 Doesn't look like a 26 for life kind of guy
  • + 2
 Someone sounds like a candidate for a Pole DH bike.
  • + 1
 So wait, is he 6'5" or 6'6"? I mean he's very tall either way, just the text and insert contradict each other.
  • + 12
 He's 6' 5.5", so right in the middle.
  • + 4
 @mikekazimer: Ah, rounding errors. Floating point precision, eh?
  • - 3
 @Hwulex: should read 6' 5 - 1/2"
  • + 68
 @makripper: or 196cm in non retarded units
  • + 2
 @Asmodai: Indeed
  • - 14
flag makripper (Jun 8, 2018 at 17:26) (Below Threshold)
 @Asmodai: How can a unit of measurement have a mental disability? And if it does, using the R word is pretty pathetic.

If you had half a brain you would say 1.96m because efficient.
  • + 14
 @makripper: you see, metric system is so cool i can say 196cm or 1.96m or 1960mm it all means the same and is using the same base unit which makes it great for calculations and gives you proper sens of scale no matter how big or small something is

6' 5 - 1/2" is just sad and highly inefficient
  • - 11
flag makripper (Jun 8, 2018 at 18:27) (Below Threshold)
 @Asmodai: you are an idiot. I use both in Canada. What's your point??
  • - 12
flag makripper (Jun 8, 2018 at 18:31) (Below Threshold)
 @lifeofloon: why amen? He's not proving any. He's an idiot who thinks he discovered this new measurement system. Just wait until he explains volume conversions next. I can't stop laughing
  • + 2
 @makripper: because the metric system is far superior if you think otherwise you're a dolt. All he did was point that out.
  • - 6
flag makripper (Jun 8, 2018 at 20:20) (Below Threshold)
 @lifeofloon: who says i think otherwise? He didn't point out anything. He just said the imperial system is a retard which literally makes no sense. I live in CANADA. Here we use the metric system. Go f*ck off now.
  • + 3
 @makripper: now that's a mature response. When you graduate high school let's talk about the practicality of the imperial vs the metric.
  • - 11
flag makripper (Jun 8, 2018 at 20:38) (Below Threshold)
 @lifeofloon: says the guy who called me a 'dolt' and assumed i love imperial units of measurement. Who says dolt anymore? I haven't heard anyone say that since the 90's lol!! This is possibly the strangest and most pointless thread of comments I have ever seen! At least it's entertaining. You are pretty unpatriotic for not believe in the one true set of measurements. Imperial is what Jesus used and wants America to use. You are going to hell if you think otherwise
  • + 8
 And here we have two of the male guys man species, who somehow have gotten all riled up over units of measurement. I love Pinkbike.
  • - 6
flag makripper (Jun 8, 2018 at 23:51) (Below Threshold)
 @samjobson: lol it's stupid isn't it. It makes no sense. Pinkbike is better than Jesus
  • - 4
flag vinay (Jun 9, 2018 at 1:29) (Below Threshold)
 @Asmodai: I know you like the SI system so much and that's all fine. But just watch your language. This was uncalled for. If we want to fight here on PB, we can already discuss Trump or NRA. But measurements have a practical use on a bicycle website so it isn't sensible to also use for insulting people or their preferences.
  • + 3
 @vinay: i didn't insult anyone?
  • + 1
 @Asmodai: There's been a discussion a few days ago where people also went silly about metric vs. imperial. I grew up with the metric system, I work with it, it is nice and consistent. I know why people like it so much. But at the end of the day it still founded upon something quite arbitrary (the earth dimensions). So that's the basis of the litre, hence the kilogram (since water is so common), bar/Pascal pressure etc. And still not perfect, because of scientific progress. Why not base mass on the mass of a single proton/neutron? Why still have 360degrees in a circle once people realized there are just less than 365.25 days in a year (taking 24hrs for a day, even though it actually takes less for the earth to make a full rotation)?

The thing is, if you work consistently with one system of units, you'll end up with a correct result. If you do so with the other system, you end up with a correct result too. Sure there is a lot to say for everyone going with the same system. But I view that as something with different languages being out there too. Sure it would be pretty efficient if everyone would talk the same language. Pick something relatively consistent, common and easy to learn. Why not pick English. Personally I'd be fine with that. Just like I'd be fine with the SI system being the only system around. It wouldn't bother me. But I'd only speak for myself. Once someone is going to call someone elses language or unit system "retarded" it strikes me as arrogant.
  • + 3
 Longer than mine.
  • + 1
 It so long, its inappropriate.
  • + 1
 Is that bigger than the Pole Machine200?
Biiiiiig
  • + 4
 20mm shorter :0
  • + 2
 @Protato: haha thats insane
  • + 2
 Only 2 piston rear?!
  • + 2
 And in the front!

Also, the brake bracket says 455mm while the dropout chip says 460... what's up with that?
  • + 1
 And an only 2 piston front as well!! They are probably plenty powerful.
  • + 6
 @Primoz: the secret behind winning World Cups is not braking that much Wink
  • + 2
 He's super tall but he's also super thin... I'd be willing to bet he doesn't weight that much compared to some of the other riders (Gee for instance) so the single piston might be enough.
  • + 5
 something to note is that the 2 piston Cura has 24mm diameter pistons, thats fookin massive m8.
  • + 1
 @Muckal: more or less my point with the "probably plenty powerful" part of the comment.
  • + 1
 Pinkbike! you should've measured the wheelbase!
  • + 1
 In 5 years this will be a standard size for most brands for XL frames.
  • + 1
 i can only hope so it so hard to find a frame that actually fits me even on 29ers
  • + 1
 Shocking bike and rider, 62 ha!
  • + 1
 I would really like to know the geometry!
  • + 1
 XXL... Music to my ears.
  • + 0
 Well... I guess the pole Machine 200 is not the longest DH bike anymore...
  • + 8
 this bike is 20mm shorter.
  • + 2
 And the Nicolai Geometron 16 XXL is 55 mm longer in front-centre, even with a shorter fork and steeper head tube angle!
  • + 1
 i can't stop drooling
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