First Look: Forestal Reveals New 'Hydra' Downhill & 'Cyon' Trail eMTB Designs

Apr 30, 2021
by James Smurthwaite  

We may have already written a fair few articles covering Andorra's Forestal Bikes but apparently, they hadn't even launched yet. Today, they're doing that in style by announcing two new eMTBs and finally offering their bikes for sale.

To catch you up to speed, Forestal is a European brand that is planning on building everything in-house from its carbon frames to its motor and battery system and even the software that controls them. So far we've seen renderings of its Syrion enduro bike and, alongside fellow Andorrans Production Privee, it has also created a titanium dirt jump hardtail and a downhill bike for the Brigade World Cup team.

Today, that range becomes reality and grows with two commuter focussed ebikes alongside a trail bike and a downhill bike with impressive specs. Let's take a look at each of them in detail now.

Forestal Cyon
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The Cyon is Forestal's first trail bike and its shortest travel offering at 150mm rear travel. As with all Forestal eMTBS, it features an Alpha Box carbon monocoque frame and the Twin Levity linkage driven single pivot suspension system but unlike the rest of the bikes it has an asymmetrical frame design. This isn't just for aesthetics though as Forestal notes it frees up space for a water bottle and allows for easier shock access.
Details

Frame material: Carbon
Intended use: Trail
Travel: 150mm
Wheelsize: 29" front and rear
Motor specs: 250W / 60Nm
Battery specs: 360Wh / 52V
Price: From €8,299
More info: forestal.com

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This is a bike that falls into the more lightweight category of eMTBS that includes bikes such as the Turbo Levo SL with a frame weight of 2.2kg in size medium, a motor weight of 1.95kg and a battery weight of 1.8kg. Because of this, the specs aren't quite as supercharged as some on the market but its 60NM of torque, 250W of assistance and 360Wh battery make it a strong contender within its class. The bike's battery life can be boosted with an optional range extender and it features some impressive charging numbers with the ability to fill it to 80% in 84 minutes.

The geometry of the Cyon puts it firmly in the trail category with a 65.5° head tube angle, 76.5° seat tube angle and a reach of 490mm in size large.

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The Cyon is available in three different builds - the Halo Neon and Diode. builds for the 'entry level' Halo start at €8,299 and topping out at €12,599. More info, here.


Forestal Hydra
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With Cedric Gracia a big part of the development and testing team, it's no surprise that Forestal have been working on a downhill bike. They have experience in this area too as they assisted Production Privee bring their own prototype race bike to fruition for the Brigade team. There are a lot of similarities between those two bikes including the Twin Levity suspension design and the frame shape but Forestal's Hydra is made from carbon and, of course, comes with a battery and motor.
Details

Frame material: Carbon
Intended use: Downhill
Travel: 170mm
Wheelsize: 29" front and rear
Motor specs: 250W / 60Nm
Battery specs: 360Wh / 52V
Price: From €9,999
More info: forestal.com

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Another area where the frames differ is in rear-wheel travel. Forestal's has surprisingly little at just 170mm, about 30mm less than most downhill bikes. This is the same amount of travel as the brand's Syrion enduro bike but Forestal assures us this isn't just a re-spec of that bike. The Alpha Box carbon chassis has the same shape but apparently been redesigned internally for this bike, "to enhance rigidity in key areas without compromising weight."

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The Hydra uses the same Eon Drive motor and Aurora battery as the Syrion and Cyon and with 60NM of torque, 250W of assistance and 360Wh of power. Two builds of the bike are available, the Halo spec at €9,999 and the Diode at €12,099. More info, here.

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196 Comments
  • 310 78
 2021 Yamaha YZ450F • $9,399
  • 133 15
 Been waiting impatiently for the motorbike price reference so thank you for that.
  • 58 9
 @pensamtb: I have a 2012 BMW 330d M sport cabriolet for sale @£9500 or if you fancy something different, 11 rolls of wallpaper for your living room.....
  • 88 19
 Just wait until you find out that nearly every hobby is expensive.
  • 1 0
 its the deal !
  • 50 45
 @PB-J: I think the ebike will probably last longer than your beemer and be worth more in another 3 years ;-)
  • 48 5
 @nickgarrison: Juggling girls is the most expensive hobby bar none.
  • 17 2
 and that's the 450, the most expensive one haha
  • 10 1
 @PB-J: or a 2010 BMW 335i with a broken gearbox but an additional engine AND gearbox, just need to swap the gearbox, and to add up, new bigger turbos alongside forged pistons and new injectors, £9000!
  • 4 0
 @lev3000: You’re not joking!
  • 3 0
 @lev3000: accurate
  • 6 0
 @theoskar57: I think I’ll pass on that one
  • 1 0
 @PB-J: Do I have to pay for it myself?
  • 1 0
 @PB-J: Ha Ha
  • 11 3
 @nickgarrison: Just wait until you find out that's an illusion the bike industry sold you at an inflated price
  • 10 0
 @PB-J: A year ago you could have gotten that much for 11 rolls of toilet paper. #neverforget #goodtimes
  • 8 1
 @nickgarrison: Leica 75mm fully manual lens: Euro 12000
  • 11 2
 this might be a better comparison, and its under $9,000

www.ktm.com/en-us/models/e-ride/freeride/ktm-freeride-e-xc2021.html
  • 2 1
 the 2022 Polaris snowmobiles are 20k ... getting crazy
  • 6 6
 @hamncheez: you can only get 30 miles out of that though rode one it was cool but I'd rather have and ebike.
here's a better comparison
www.ktm.com/en-us/models/enduro/2-stroke/ktm-300-xc-w-tpierzbergrodeo2021.html
you would still have to get it turned properly.
also you need a truck or some vehicle that can hold it on a rack.
I love my Moto and can go out the door from home but just saying its expensive as hell too.
I ride bikes and ebikes but the ebike is an awesome tool.
Ferrari still make expensive cars they are awesome I can't afford one doesn't mean I hate on them if its out of your price range then sucks to suck
  • 10 4
 2021 YZ 250X $7000 USD, and you get a better Braaap.
  • 23 1
 @pensamtb: Pinkbike is the best place to get up-to-date dirt bike prices.
  • 2 1
 @PB-J: I’d rather a drinks trolley and some change !
  • 1 0
 @downhillin4life: electric vs electric

in this case 0.3kW VS 18kW
  • 6 14
flag cebolla (Apr 30, 2021 at 13:46) (Below Threshold)
 Yamaha YZ450F for $9,399 include: stock fork, stock shock, stock wheels, stock engine, stock brakes. Put on that motorbike racing components and tell us how much will cost.
  • 9 10
 f*cking hell. This tired argument again? Yes. You and easily spend 10k on a bunch of frivolous stuff. #firstworldproblems
  • 19 0
 @Dustfarter: Its a vaild comparison; An Ebike is composed of a frame, an electric motor, Li-ion batteries, wheels, tires, brakes, and suspension. That KTM has a frame, electric motor, Li-ion batteries, wheels, brakes, and suspension, yet costs less. Thousands less. I don't know if these numbers are correct, but class 1 ebikes top out at 300 watts, right? I realize the motors might be much more powerful and governed down to meet regulations, so lets assume double that- 600 watts. The KTM has a 18,000 watt motor. Thats 30 times as powerful. Even the stock suspension on that KTM is very sophisticated compared to mtb suspension. This price differential is just mind blowing.
  • 12 1
 @downhillin4life: Clearly this was too high-level for you to understand. A bike with actual R&D vs some carbon boy with a motor an a tiny bit of comparative R&D should not cost the same.
MTB is just stupidly inflated for some things.
  • 5 0
 Honda Ruckus $2800
50cc scooter/moped
  • 6 4
 @hamncheez: the stock suspension on a KTM is NOT sophisticated at all compared to top level Fox and RockShox MTB stuff. There is a reason so many people send them in to a tuner right away.
  • 1 0
 @Matt115lamb: Yes, quite. Or a sofa perhaps...,
  • 1 0
 @Riggbeck: You don’t have a wealthy friend? Shame on you!
  • 2 0
 @PB-J: Cabriolet and Diesel, big nono.
  • 3 2
 you can pay 50k for a handbag if you like. different things cost different amounts of money
  • 1 1
 Plus 15 years of gas and insurance :p
  • 1 0
 @TheLongMan: Private land! Gas is cheap out here!!!!!!!!
  • 1 0
 That's the first thing I think man...Honda tho Wink
  • 2 0
 @lev3000: yes, but in 3 years he will still be able to get parts and batteries for his BMW.
  • 115 3
 It's like a Specialized and an Orange went on a Tinder date.
  • 13 1
 Agreed, but damn they missed out on the name with "Cyon"...Should've given it a chrome paint job and called it the Cylon (could probably even put a red LED "eye" on it too)
  • 6 2
 Looks like a Sporbea
  • 3 3
 My take would be : a Stump and a Meta had unprotected sex
  • 1 0
 Yes, it's a single pivot bike.
  • 91 14
 why do all e-bikes position themselves as "true to nature"? "true to your roots"?
pretty much nearly all the commercials i have seen for e-bikes make me cringe.
how is mass production of lithium batteries and non-recyclable batteries, more waste is "truer" to nature than what we already have?

the key word is mass, and apparently we all are expected to ride e-bikes in future, or what?
  • 5 2
 Yes, cuz' cars will be too expensive^^
  • 60 9
 How are they "true to your roots". The roots of this sport is pedaling under your own power.
  • 20 5
 @SlodownU: amen
  • 6 3
 Im not going to buy overpriced E-Bike stuff- the Levo frameset costs 7.000€- that much for a frameset... Holy moly
  • 19 4
 They're just trying to make it OK for the boomers to rationalize.
  • 5 0
 This is definitely not mass production. Not that I disagree with you, just saying that sub 100 units a year is not mass.
  • 4 2
 @juanpkumicho: i meant in the bigger picture, if we expect ebikes to become as popular as analog (kek) bikes.
  • 4 1
 Word. Totally agree with you
  • 4 2
 Batterys can be recycled 98%, the production is still not great, thats true
  • 66 5
 Chinese motor so disappointing on such a European ebike. Definitely pass on this one. I’m all for anyone where but China sourcing. China runs active concentration camps for Uighur people, restricts free speech and spy’s on everyone. I love Chinese’s people, culture etc, just hate the government human rights abuses and unfair industry support.

Headquarters
Bafang Electric (Suzhou) Co., Ltd.
No.9 Heshun Rd., Suzhou Industrial Park 215122, Suzho
  • 46 0
 Also responsible for the majority of illegal trade in protected species, elephants, rhinos, tigers, whales, and countless others as well as ocean floor dredging through coral reefs, the list just goes on and on. Now I'm not saying that any other country can point the finger without accepting they have had a part in such things as a nation themselves in the past, but mostly we've all learnt our lesson. It's China that continue to go on blithely ignoring the impact they are having as they vicariously hunt so many species to the edge of extinction.
  • 17 0
 Also partially responsible for the drugs Fentynal and Meth. Chinese produce and sell the synthetic chemicals to Cartels.
  • 21 1
 @landscapeben: how did you miss their great range of infectious diseases
  • 3 1
 @Compositepro: lol
  • 3 1
 Can’t agree with you statement any more.
Trouble is they have us by the b@ll, everything these days is made there!
  • 15 2
 We all need to do our part and boycott China period. Wether that is not buying a “Santa Cruz” carbon form their factory in China and opting for a bike that is made in Twain or better yet the USA or Europe. Guerrilla gravity or Alchemy are made in USA for your carbon needs. Choosing a Brose motor made in Berlin Germany, Bosch made Hungry or Shimano motor from Japan if your serious about this pedal assist moutain biking. Let’s all agree not to by China when we can. Avoid Amazon.com or Walmart’s China crap. No more China - you don’t allow free speech, free markets, lying about Covid/censoring data and basic human rights we don’t won’t your crap. Bafang go electronically fang yourself. As for Forester go find a different motor not made in China and call me when it’s integrated into your new bike. Please choose LG or Panasonic batteries not from China or lithium sourced from Mongolia.
  • 1 0
 @trollhunter: Good luck buying Mongolian Lithium to dunk on the Chinese.

"Mongolia's main investment partners are China, Canada, Russia, Great Britain and the United States. The sectors attracting the most foreign investment are mining, oil and construction."
  • 8 6
 most of western society is just as bad or worse, we just do it more cladestinely you think the USA doesn't financially support rebels and governments that mow down people senselessly look at Israel, USA's military outpost in the Middle Easy, they slaught Palestinians endlessly, all of it backed by USA...
  • 14 11
 @sirbikealot: too accurate. Imagine trying to hold a moral high ground being an American lol.

Country is essentially a concentration camp for blacks. Had a Cheeto in charge. They literally sacked their own Capitol. It is impressive stuff. To watch an empire fall within our lifetime. They happily fund the destruction of Palestine, stir trouble the world over.

Can’t even provide basic healthcare for their taxpayers.

We all need to do our part and refuse to buy anything American. Let capitalism reset the experiment.
  • 7 7
 @bonfire: You sound like a racist! Concentration camp for blacks? Oh brother, did you read that line in the Antifa handbook? We had a black president, the richest woman in the US is black. Plenty of sucessful black Americans. You're the bigot here...
  • 3 5
 @Bushmaster123: interesting straw man argument you have there. Due to being ranked 27th in education, I’ll just assume you folks didn’t cover debate.
  • 6 3
 @bonfire: another fine generalization 27 th in education... Plenty of fine schools here. Why do asians and other higher ranked countries in ed. flock to American Universities then? Your anti American bs is so old, cheeto this cheeto that, wow original...
  • 5 3
 @Bushmaster123: Foreigners line up to attend US universities because while the average of the quality of education is low, the standard deviation is high.

Also, it's not a generalization to point out that the *average* rank of something is low.
  • 4 9
flag Bushmaster123 (May 1, 2021 at 19:10) (Below Threshold)
 @mi-bike: Statistics dont paint the whole picture. Democrats flood the country poorly educated immigrants. Their kids perform poorly in school thus bringing down test score "averages" and "rankings".

More foreigners shitting on America on PB, yawn... Worry about your shitty country instead.
  • 4 2
 @Bushmaster123: Where in my reply do you feel I'm shitting on the US? You can neg prop me all you want, but I did no such thing. I was merely pointing out that the variation in the quality of education is high, which perfectly aligns with *your own statement* that the US has "plenty of fine schools".
  • 42 0
 Anyone got any night vision goggles so I can see what's in the photos?
  • 10 0
 They must be extra ugly if they used those shots for a debute...
  • 3 1
 @stiingya: black bike with a black background makes it look smaller, hard to tell how big the downtube actually is
  • 1 0
 just go to their website and look for yourself
  • 1 0
 @nielsmarijn: Can't see the website its too dark!
  • 1 0
 @MattP76: take your sun glasses off Smile
  • 32 5
 What's the point in developing everything in-house? They are marketing this as if it's a good thing. In my opinion it's rarely a good idea to reinvent the wheel. What you end up with is higher development and production cost and a potentially more unreliable eco system as compared to solutions that have been refined in the market over years. Don't even get me started on customer support.. I would not spend that amount of money on a completely proprietary system.
  • 3 1
 I agree...
  • 10 0
 I recently developed a case of the bubble guts in-house and it worked quite well in my opinion I was able to ensure that the fecal coliform levels in the eco system remained true to nature. 7/10 will do again.
  • 26 2
 Sick. Love dual crown ebikes. I dont see the point in light ones. Like it planted & stable. Battery is too small though, I would need 3+ of these for a day at the park doing self uplifts.
  • 14 25
flag m1dg3t (Apr 30, 2021 at 5:27) (Below Threshold)
 Just get an eDirtbike, or a regular dirt bike. LoL
  • 17 2
 @m1dg3t: What a brilliant idea, except you cant ride a moto or e-moto at a bikepark. Apart from that, your suggestion is flawless. Lol.
  • 11 5
 @mcozzy: Trying to figure out, where are those bike parks where is not shuttle . Hmmmmm ?
  • 5 18
flag m1dg3t (Apr 30, 2021 at 6:47) (Below Threshold)
 @mcozzy: LoL. And what's difference between an eBike & eMoto? Apart from size/weight. This should be good Smile
  • 7 5
 @m1dg3t: What is the difference between a dick and a chair?cmon guys...
  • 16 2
 @m1dg3t:
one has a hand actuated throttle, is way more powerful and, doesn't have any type of pedal mechanism.
Looked up a KTM E-XC: it's 18,000 watts (24.5 hp). this ebike: 250W, the eMoto is only 72 times as powerful, so yeah same thing...
  • 4 2
 @LS3VER33: duuude , who cares ? Look at this old school Geo on the eMoto. I would not buy that with its seat angle and reach..
  • 2 0
 @bogdanc: I know that Windrock used to be self shuttle during the week, not sure if that’s changed by now. There are also a few closed down bike parks that people still ride and maintain the trails. Another bike park that was closed due to COVID last year but they said come ride the trails but you have to get yourself to the top.
  • 3 0
 @DHhack: windrock does have shuttles everyday now btw
  • 1 0
 @LS3VER33: nice!
  • 25 2
 Self-shutteling eDH bikes makes so much sense! Perfect for those who live in an area with great DH tracks, but limited access to shutteling. We just need more to choose from in this category. Not something for me though. I have a DH bike, trail bike and normal eMTB. But if I lived in an area with great downhills in my backyard like Nesbyen, Sogndal or Voss, I'd definitely be tempted to get a eDH bike. To have small batteries to keep the weight down is good as well, because you most likely will be running laps, you could just have a spare battery at the bottom and switch when it runs out. Bring it on!
  • 11 7
 Agree with your points about shuttling, but 170mm of travel does not constitute a DH bike. Gotta have at least 190 IMHO, and I would like to actually see 220 like the old V10. The industry will get there eventually.
  • 6 3
 @DoubleCrownAddict: Why would you like to see 220? surely if 220 was better it'd be getting used no?
  • 8 0
 @DoubleCrownAddict: The "industry" tried more than 8" of travel for a long time. Remember when the v10 actually had 10" of travel???

Anything longer travel than 8.5" at 25% sag feels too squishy and doesn't let you pump/pop the bike around. MTB suspension for DH racing can't be too soft because the rider puts so much input into the bike. I'd assume average e bike riders aren't putting as much input though. 20lb of extra Weight and FOX's lighter e-bike compression tunes don't help at all.

170 for a DH bike is such a joke though lol
  • 4 2
 @thelibrarybiker: I think part of it is personal preference, not everybody wants a 'poppy' bike, some people would rather have more cushion and traction. With e bikes efficiency isn't as much of a priority either.
  • 7 0
 @DoubleCrownAddict:: I had the V-10 that actually had 10" travel and it rode much better in the 8.5" setting. I am pretty sure that if 220 mm offered better performance then the WC DH teams would be pushing development in that direction.
  • 3 0
 @andrewbikeguide: Yup, I think also quality trumps quantity. For what it's worth, "back in the day" the quickest bike down Dirt Mag's infamous "1:04" test track was made by Millyard and had 150mm of rear travel & 45 psi in the tires (it was made in a shed in Britain, and featured a very unique rear shock and fork cartridge)

dirtmountainbike.com/features/railroad-millyard-invention.html?_escaped_fragment_=bpxwlj
  • 1 1
 Nailed it!
  • 3 0
 @DoubleCrownAddict: I can agree with 170mm is a bit short to qualify as a proper DH bike, but it's plenty for a lot of shuttleruns if you have a proper DH fork up front.

The industry has been there and is there still, but have found that it is little use of doing so. A lot of DH bikes run 190mm as well nowadays even. Going above 200mm is a waste for 99% of riders. There are options still but quite frankly I don't see the point. Suspension setup, kinematics and wheel path has a lot more impact than pure travel. I ride a Intense M16c, which has the option to run 215mm or 241mm. Having tried both a lot back to back, it is obvious that 214mm is superior in all ways. Both faster and more agile. (Yes, I run an air shock and adjust the pressure between settings).
  • 23 3
 Instead of ebikes why not have etrails. Instead of 100s of motors on each bike 1 big motor underneath a rolling trail. Back to basics natural trail riding just like you know it.
  • 16 5
 and before you lot get all uppity like 'the trail wasn't rolling back in my day'. The future is coming, its either this or electrify the hill at great risk of personal injury and death. Take your pick. And before you lot get all 'should we be electrifying it at all' remember this is mostly for the disabled, elderly and morbidly obese so pipe down
  • 7 0
 This be the subject of a Taj Mihelich illustration.
  • 3 1
 I like it! Can I sit on a beach lounger behind my bikes while I watch it dominate the trail? I don't want my food to get cold while I'm riding or my beverage to get warm.
  • 16 1
 OH MY GOD @DoubleCrownAddict ITS YOUR TIME TO SHINE! A DOUBLE CROWN EBIKE!

(guys I think we’ve found something he won’t complain about)
  • 9 0
 It's only 170mm..?
  • 8 9
 Only 170mm of travel is disappointing. Husqvarna and Specialized have better offerings closer to actual DH category. Wish we could fast forward 10 years in e bike technology: 200mm travel, gearboxes, and lighter weight. The haters will be converted by then also.
  • 10 1
 @DoubleCrownAddict:
OMG!! That's just what the gypsy woman said.
  • 13 4
 Small battery and DH bike? Are these guy's just a front to take people's deposits?
  • 9 2
 Makes sense for people who take ebikes on ski lifts.
  • 26 4
 @void: Battery powered bikes on gondolas and ski lift. Kill me please.
  • 6 3
 @bogdanc: if you can't figure out these bikes are intended to be pedalled up the mountain instead of riding in a gondola you are either being a twit or not very intelligent.
  • 10 5
 @d-man: Can't you just get my sarcasm in my line ? I was literraly trying to emphasis the fact that taking an electric motor bike to a gondola / shuttle / whatever etc. is purely retarded !
  • 8 4
 @bogdanc: Don't worry, most understood. Those who didn't must be twits or just not very intelligent.
  • 8 0
 ah yeh more vapourware bikes.
  • 8 5
 I like ebike and conventional bikes being an owner of both.

BUT (and i'm open minded about this) what is the point of an electric downhill bike? Surely the majority of those tho own downhill bikes go to bikeparks where theres an uplift/shuttle? I can't imagine pedalling this ebike up a hill would be much fun and with the small battery you'd get less runs than using an uplift?

Maybe I'm missing the point....
  • 7 2
 Been doing a 1-day trip each year up until 2017: it consisted of 22km climbing and then bombing through 10km forest trail. Usually on a dh-bike. I had the luck of riding a pretty good pedaller: an IH Sunday with an air shock which had a bucket full of adjustments. And yet it was exhausting. And then there were the guys with worse pedallers. Such an e-dh-bike would do wonders for people like us! Wink
  • 1 2
 like seriously. if they are bringing a downhill e-bike, i at least expect to see an e-bmx and e-street.

the only justification i see so that it will boost you on the flat (pedalling) sections (thus small battery)...
  • 2 0
 @hitarpotar: Great example, cheers.
  • 5 0
 No bikeparks with uplifts to be found in Portugal and with shuttles there isn't any near enough to justify the costs of weekend rides. The only way to ride a downhill bike around where I live is if you have a group of friends who bought an old van altogether and to swich driver every descent (which hasn't been possible due to covid restrictions). Otherwise you're going up by foot.
I can see it can make sense to have an electric downhill bike, but it's just not for me.
  • 2 0
 @PedroSousaDias: well, you have Penha with a gondola. And at 1€ per lift one quickly forget that the hill is smallish
  • 7 0
 There are so many DH trails around the world that are not accessable with any form of shuttle (a lot in the Alpes for example) so to be able to get up to the top of those without having to push is awesome. Especially if you live in one of those areas.

A lot of my mates live in the area around Hafjell, but have families and work that don't let them ride in the park in the opening hours as much as they want, so having a bike like this to squeeze in a few laps (as opposed to pedal up and maybe get one lap) on the mountain in the evening is awesome.

So, yes, there is absolutely a market.
  • 16 0
 Actually eDH bikes make more sense than any other ebike. Not everyone has local lift access, or a good bike park where they live...
  • 1 0
 There's places without easy shuttle access all over, I see a legit usage for an "enduro" style e-bike in those situations.
  • 2 0
 @Arierep: Wow nice! Did not know that. Still, Guimarães is still a long way from Lisboa. Wouldn't justify weekend rides.
  • 2 0
 @PedroSousaDias: spend one day in Penha and one in Ponte de Lima and you have yourself a killer weekend
  • 5 2
 The lightweight, small motor etrail bikes make so much sense once you ride on. Feels like a normal MTB, but you get more miles on your ride and more smiles on the climbs. Glad to see more companies exploring that niche, even though this one should probably get a few bikes into people's hands before we call it real.
  • 8 2
 New contender in the Full Marketing BS video> categories.
  • 2 2
 theres an idea like the oscars for advertising BS l ol
  • 2 0
 Why did they quote the levo sl when this bike looks like they borrowed the electronics spec sheet from the rise? Whoever said Sporbea was spot on though, this is the offspring of those bikes. It really points to Spec being onto something when they started the category and then Orbea getting it right for performance.
  • 5 0
 The DH rig looks mighty sick!
  • 2 0
 Insane respect for the amount of work these guys have done. Way to raise the bar of the bike industry. Professional job all round. Bike looks totally sick and love the approach compared to traditional ebikes!
  • 1 0
 This is the second time I have tried to watch this video... it’s not for me... my view, this long form marketing sucks... I skimmed, I looked, I skimmed and learnt nothing of the bike then stopped watching. kISS, it’s not just an engineering formula
  • 5 3
 There is as much marketing gibberish and made up buzzwords in this release as the Kickstarter for the AliExpress bike that was posted yesterday. Twin Levity Alpha Box!
  • 2 1
 If you watch the whole commercial hyperbole till minute 29:48 they show you a secret code and you will get the bike for free- promise!

You have 60 seconds to get a glass of water and two Aspirin to prepare..
  • 2 1
 Now they need to make a e-bike with regenerative braking and solar panels to keep the bike charged for longer. And maybe even some USB ports to charge your phone, maybe heated grips and AC too.
  • 3 0
 Feels like I just watched Star Wars beginning to End Can barely get out of the theater seat
  • 3 0
 Specialized brass is probably looking at this wondering how they can sue...
  • 1 0
 And vice versa for stealing the MasterMind TCU from the Forestal Smart Dashboard
  • 1 0
 "its 60NM of torque, 250W of assistance and 360Wh battery make it a strong contender within its class."

Erm, no it doesn't. Not for 8K Euro. For that you get 85-90Nm Bosch or Brose drive units from any other brand.
  • 2 0
 Is the fork restricted to 170mm travel also? I saw Cannondale do this with a boxxer on their e-enduro bike..
  • 4 0
 Let the battles begin
  • 3 0
 I look forward to the future reviews.
  • 11 8
 More motorbikes on a cycling forum! Yay...
  • 1 0
 Oh no 29:53 he actually uses the term down county as a bike genre, with all the love @mikelevy has been getting lately this might actually make his head explode.
  • 2 0
 So are they actually manufacturing in Andorra or just planning to do so? There is quite a difference between the two.
  • 3 0
 they have a huge facility where they produce them selves: forestal.com/en/post/forestal-technology-centre
  • 1 0
 @nielsmarijn: well I worked at a company with a huge facility. It appeared in every marketing campaign but no products made there were ever sold.
  • 2 0
 Is this the same company that Cedric Garcia was involved in the development with?
  • 2 0
 yes
  • 1 0
 Just don't get why some of the boutique brands don't push the reach on the xl. I'm 195cm and won't even look at a bike below 520mm these days. They're just too short.
  • 1 0
 Nothing like a black background to really make a black bike stand out. Had to double check to make sure there was even a bike in some of those
  • 2 0
 Long wait, massive build up, big anticipation......... 60nm, 360Wh. Good job gang. Good job
  • 1 0
 Lasted until 4.24 with the video. Massive hi tech workshop, slick promo marketing. Haven't sold a bike yet. It's all arse about tit if you ask me. Must be getting old.
  • 1 0
 You clearly don't understand the concept of these lightweight e-bikes. Compare it with the Orbea Rise, Specialized Levo SL and the original light weight e-bike: LaPierre e-Zesty.
  • 1 0
 @nielsmarijn: the dh version has the same output and battery values. You were saying?
  • 3 0
 3...2...1... DCA inbound
  • 2 3
 A few very cool points with these, been following them for a while.
Love the idea of the motor and how it works, what worries me is no support network and reliability. ??? completely unfounded of course.
  • 1 0
 Please include the weight, the info is in their website and when you mention lightweight category, we'd like to know
  • 5 4
 Mimimi, it has a Motor..... mimimi it‘s not a real bike.

Stfu and enjoy what you are doing!
  • 3 0
 Sexy
  • 6 6
 Ebikes. Whatever. I'm just not interested. Is there a mountain biking website out there that is just about real bikes? I'm pretty much done with Pinkbike.
  • 6 4
 Needs a throttle, stupid pedaling all the time makes you weak!
  • 3 1
 definetely my future Ebike when i buy one!
  • 1 3
 Cannot find any true value on the bike to cost what is asking for.

People spend money where they want. Don't care,and besides, we need rich dorks to pay for "I&D" and Progress

For those on the electrical market, have you seen Sun Ron?

Personally I still continue to like 2 things: Bikes & Motorcycles.
Emopeds never went on the garage, and it won't enter until i can see value on this ebike things

Value: internal transmission, range, no noise at all, seameless power surge... simple stuf!
  • 1 1
 If the athertons are watching, this is how you launch a bike brand. You know, by being well funded and actually launching bikes after a lengthy campaign.
  • 1 0
 did he said down country ? @mikelevy you've really started something ... where are you by the way ?
  • 1 0
 Some weird brakes on the top spec. Are those of their own design too, I wonder?
  • 4 3
 It doesn't look like a session but a Rallon.
  • 3 2
 Nahh the Rallon has the damper on the drive side, whereas this one has the damper non drive side...we could say it looks like a levo. ‍♂️
  • 1 0
 @Manjk: We could also say it looks fully, and we'd all be right.
  • 1 0
 Loving the Transformers font
  • 3 1
 Loos likes a specailized
  • 3 1
 hello specialized
  • 2 1
 I've never even heard of this brand.
  • 1 0
 next year zwift for ebikes or inside the manor rollers for ebikes
  • 3 1
 Awesome!~
  • 1 0
 That's a Scott Genius XL geo 1:1
  • 1 0
 Where did Cedric Gracia go?
  • 1 0
 hate 29'ers but love the paint scheme on the first one
  • 2 2
 Didns somebody said its just rebranded chineese Bafang motor?
  • 1 1
 "we came up with a new term: pedal assisted bike" ... sure ya did
  • 2 2
 Looks like BigS Kenevo and Levo got a baby....
  • 2 1
 Looks like a stumpy
  • 3 3
 Looks like an uglyfied Stumpy to me
  • 1 1
 I doubt this is how Shield thought Hydra would return.
  • 3 4
 Why e bikes have gears?? Do they use any gear but smallest one in the back?
  • 1 1
 makes you wonder why it cant be a CVT now just put the motor in its most efficient RPM delivering torque setting and let it rip
  • 1 0
 Forestalized
  • 2 2
 Hail Hydra! I knew eBikes were evil.
  • 3 4
 Just replace pedals with footpegs and add 3 in. of travel already. Stop beating around the bush.
  • 1 1
 Cough Cough looks like a stumpy
  • 2 3
 Great now we got 170 dh bikes and trail bikes
  • 2 2
 Looks like an EVO
  • 3 4
 Incoming newbie detists on bike trails Blank Stare
  • 1 1
 *que Hysterical laughing
  • 1 2
 What a waste





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