Fox Attack Q4 Cold Weather Short - Review

Feb 22, 2016
by David Arthur  
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Fox's Attack Q4 shorts are designed for winter riding when the trails are coated in slop rather than dust and warm sunny days are a distant memory. There was a time before waterproof shorts, hard as that is to believe, but the idea of constructing a riding short from a waterproof fabric is a sound one. The Fox Attack Q4 Cold Weather Shorts are made from a proprietary 2-layer fabric that is breathable, stretchy and durable, with welded and sealed seams throughout. The fabric has a 10,000mm waterproof and breathability rating. The two pocket zippers are waterproof as well, so any cash for the cake stop won’t go soggy. The fly opening is a simple zipper with two popper buttons. There are also two velcro waistband straps to adjust the fit. Available in six sizes 30 to 40in, the Fox Attack Q4 Cold Weather Short cost $149.95 USD. Weight: 253g. www.foxhead.com

Fox Attack Q4 Cold Weather Short
A Waterproof rear panel keeps spray at bay..

Fox Attack Q4 Cold Weather Short
Taped seams on the inside keep the rain out.

Fox Attack Q4 Cold Weather Short
Waterproofed zipped pockets are a nice touch.



Trail Report

It's been a particularly wet and muddy winter, and it shows no sign of relenting, which means the Fox Attack Q4 shorts have been getting a lot of use over the past couple of months. Waterproofing is sufficient to make riding through the rain and tackling muddy trails a lot less unpleasant, preventing the ingress of water, mud and grit into the liner (presuming you're wearing one). They're not quite as waterproof as the high-tech fabrics found in more expensive shorts, but they're up to the task and provide far more protection than regular shorts. The fit is good, with an agreeable length over the knees and they're baggy enough to work well with knee pads.

You don't get as much protection as full-length rain trousers, but even when it's raining you don't get as cold, and you avoid the overheating that can occur with trousers. Waterproof fabrics can sometimes be fragile, but these shorts have so far proven to be very durable. The seat area of the short has coped with the sandpaper effect of grinding mud paste on the saddle, and they've even dealt with a couple of crashes. The taped seams are holding up just fine as well.


Pinkbike's Take:

bigquotesThere's no escaping that Fox Attack Q4s are pricey for unlined shorts, but they are at least backed up by decent performance, and are a sound investment if you are keen to ride whatever the weather. I'm not down with the camo styling personally, but other colours are available. I'm impressed with their good performance, fit, and attention to detail - these shorts work well. - David Arthur





MENTIONS: @Fox-Head-Inc




76 Comments

  • + 62
 Trying to imagine the dialog with some of the younger readers:

"Son, it's raining out are you really going riding today?"

"Don't worry Mom, I'm wearing my water proof winter shorts"

The generation gap just grew by 1000 miles.
  • - 31
flag NWshredSauce (Feb 22, 2016 at 22:16) (Below Threshold)
 These are sooo ugly! The camo version looks like it was designed by some 50 year-old corporate dads who have never touched a mountain bike in their life
  • + 16
 I don't know, I kinda like them. It reminds me of when the water colors bled on the paper in elementary school. Before all the colors mixed and it looked like an ugly ass rainbow turd painting.
  • + 4
 I have a pair of Keen sandals. Says waterproof right on the side. WTF?
  • + 1
 That one has always baffled me, it is fun to ask the salesperson about it.
  • + 2
 Because Summer shorts are too mainstream
  • + 44
 Ya this should have been introduced 3 months ago
  • + 8
 royal already makes 100% waterproof shorts
  • + 2
 Seriously, with a bulge like that why wouldn't you want to show it off!
  • + 5
 I have many a time just cut down some 200kr (around 25USD) rain pants and it has worked a treat for downhilling. As they are shorts, they don't need to breathe that much. Just keep you dry(ish).
  • + 18
 Winter Shorts: for when it's cold/wet out, but you're afraid the Bro's will laugh at you if wear something practical.
  • + 8
 Or when you have to climb to the trails and pants would be too hot seeing as it's just raining and not actually that cold out.
  • + 12
 It sounds so absurd doesn't it. Waterproof shorts. Hey how about a waterproof wife beater, or even waterproof swimming trunks?
  • + 3
 I don't disagree with you @virtumedia.I wear shorts on warm winter days pretty often, regardless of precip. I just don't wear anything waterproof. If I'm climbing (and therefore sweating) waterproof gear is about as useful as wearing a plastic trash bag. I will get wet, either from the precipitation, or from my own sweat, but either way I still get wet. I prefer my endura shorts since they are breathable enough to have a chance at drying out once I stop sweating.
  • + 2
 hmmm its -30 and i want to ride, better throw on my shorts lol why is it that mountain bikers feel they can't ride unless they have shorts on?
  • + 10
 Living in Vancouver I find shorts like this totally useful. Three requests:
1. Belt loops.
2. Stating the inseam length of the short. Guess what? We aren't all the same height.
3. Making winter shorts a bit longer than usual for some extra coverage.
  • + 1
 To point #3: If you make below-knee-shorts like this longer, they become capris. Freeride capris.
  • + 11
 Pretty sweet! I'm constantly getting chased by those tiny rouge thunderstorms that seem to follow me around and shrink my dangly bits.
  • + 11
 No pictures of the shorts?
  • + 4
 nope
  • + 4
 150 bucks for a pair of shorts, which aren't even lined? Damn. I get R&D + Manufacturing costs... but it just seems so high. To me 90 bucks feels more right for something like this (which is still expensive, but at least makes sense to me).
  • + 3
 150 bucks for a pair of shorts. That are waterproof? Uhh you know those two massive holes you stick your legs threw...ya? Are we heading towards the roadie wear adapted to mtb where everyone buys into dumb gimmicks and corporate bombardement. Buy thease theyll keep you dry, and dont forget the pricetag makes you faster.
  • + 4
 Anything by Endura is a sound buy in my experience, made in Scotland where they know what bad weather is...enough said for me.
  • + 1
 Yeah I have some Endura shorts, 3/4 shorts,and a rain jacket. Good value, very functional and the stuff holds up!
  • + 4
 But how do these hold up after the 1st wash? Last Fox Sargeant shorts started pillowing after the first wash. Big Disappointment!
  • - 1
 I've never had that problem, but then again I've never washed my bike shorts. Seriously though, my Fox lined shorts did the same, it may have been due to the dryer.
  • + 10
 You've never washed your bike shorts....? Man, they gotta be wiffy!
  • + 1
 I've got several pair of the attack regular shorts and no problems after at least a dozen or more washes. No problems with the padded compression liners either. Mud, sweat snd multiple trail grinders later - no tears, zippers work, and all else just fine. No complaints here. I'll buy another pair when last year's model discounts get good. Avoid hanging your butt too close to your rear tire and all is good with these shorts
  • + 2
 The taped seams go....
  • + 2
 The thing with waterproof shorts or riding pants - I think they're all making a mistake putting the standard 2L or 3L material in the seat area. There's usually a layer of mud collecting on your ass and on the seat, even if you use some sort of fender/mud guard. So if you do any appreciable bit of pedaling while seated, that will just completely grind that material to bits. Makes much more sense to me to just have a layer of near indestructible fabric (something like a tough artificial leather like you'd have on rappelling gloves) right there. It's not like there's much breathability needed right there.

Also - with the big gaping holes at the bottom of shorts - why not just go crazy on the waterproofing, but not worry too much about breathability?
  • + 1
 I agree not all of the shorts have issues. The black ones have held up no complaints. It's likely the material that was used for the CAMOs. All my gear is either Fox or Dakine so no bias here. Don't get me started with the Fox gloves. Haha
  • + 1
 Try a Mudhugger fender if you ride wet winter conditions. $42CDN for the rear. Work great and have stayed solid for a lot of AM riding. I'm seeing quite a few of they out here in Coastal BC.

You hardly notice it on the bike and once it dries up snip a few zip ties and it's gone until next winter.

www.themudhugger.co.uk
  • + 2
 LOL Winter riding shorts?! Come to Canada with shorts and ride in the winter when its minus 40 c with windchill! It wont matter how nice the shorts are you will still be cold as a mother______ Smile
  • + 1
 Depends on which part of Canada, doesn't it? Lower mainland BC is only a half-hour drive from where I live, and we ride in shorts all winter. Then again, it rarely freezes around here.
  • + 3
 Yes and no. I'm almost at the us border in Ontario so I'm about as far south in Canada as u can get and it still snows from pretty much november to march.
  • + 1
 Those are some intense shorts, personally I don't feel I need to bring my intensity up that high, they automatically remind me of people who buy TOL branded everything gear for different sports, and then don't put any effort into actually playing the sport.
  • + 1
 Absolutely terrible shorts in my (and others) experience. The stretch material lets water in by the bucket loads and then as its rubberised inside it doesn't come out easily. Also, the fabric stains like crazy from mud, so you end up starting a ride looking like you just finished one.
Avoid like the plague.
  • + 1
 Still riding shorts and gear from these guys, unbeatable value and performance. Plus when they are trashed (which 12 months later mine are still in good condition) you can afford to splurge on another pair.

tenn-outdoors.co.uk/collections/mountain-mens-shorts
  • + 1
 nice one sewer-rat just what I've been looking for and actually at a reasonable price!
  • + 1
 Anytime dude
  • + 1
 Had two pairs come apart on the seat seam both went back for warranty, finally exchanged for 2016 Madison Attack waterproof short, longer and more waterproof, they cover light knee pads when pedaling, great. They also do a DWR version with 3ply rear, DWR stretch front
  • + 1
 sewer-rat
The tenn shorts look good as does the price. Any idea on the fit? Does a 32-34 fit a closer to 32 or 34. For example, I wear a 33 or 34 waist for jeans, so not certain to go with 32-34 or 34-36.
  • + 1
 Go for the 34 buddy, they are adjustable and can come up slightly small / true to size
  • + 4
 Right as we come into spring... #relevant
  • + 12
 Maybe where you live, but there are still plenty of places in the world that have at least a couple more months of wet weather to deal with.
  • + 5
 Maybe it took them all winter to see if they could last, well, all winter..?
  • + 3
 Maybe we're just heading for winter in new Zealand, really, there are places in the world outside murrica
  • + 1
 Perfect timing for me. Just what I wanted to read with winter coming up soon.
  • + 1
 "It's always breakfast somewhere"
  • + 1
 Bought a pair of these in Mid December, returned under warranty for a refund at the start of February. Stitching came apart and the seat area disintegrated......hopeless shorts avoid!
  • + 1
 My real world review of these shorts from owner experience

Too short... why???
Not cut to generously enough to offset no flex (normal MTB shorts stretch pretty well)...why???
Crap taped seems...why???
  • + 4
 Perfect for an English summer.
  • + 1
 I was going to question the timing of the article then thought exactly the same LOL
  • + 2
 I don't buy $150-200 shorts even at pro deal.

Just spray some Teflon on jorts you made from value village. Sew a fox patch on

$9
  • + 1
 what a bad idea.... if you are really worried about staying dry you arent going to wear shorts.... good job fox, great marketing and design teams you must be employing....
  • + 2
 Am I the only one that finds the "Term Cold Weather Shorts" strange?
  • + 3
 no belt loops...
  • + 1
 Awesome! I'd much rather buy these than some over engineered $450 shorts (that I can even charge my phone with..).
  • + 2
 Love that camo, hate the bright dayglow colours.
  • + 2
 Does anyone other then Fox make something like this?
  • + 4
 raceface
  • + 6
 In addition to Race Face, there's the Royal Racing Storm short, Specialized has one, and Endura has the MT500 shorts and knickers with a waterproof back and only wind/water resistant front for better comfort.
  • + 2
 Altera Attack 360 3/4 length, have a pair and so far so good. Paid £55 for em!!
  • + 4
 "Than"
  • + 1
 I 2nd the Altura's $$ well spent , as for the RF several people I know with the had issues , same deal with the jackets , crappy seam tape is one issue .
  • + 1
 IXS makes a pair too
  • + 1
 TLD's moto shorts are made with a stronger, heavier, sort of plasticky fabric which I imagine won't let water in as easily. And which I also dislike for that reason. They are or used to be very popular, are strong and can be ordered from China for little money.
  • + 2
 Wet Ben Davis
  • + 1
 Winter shorts wtf......you should try my summer coveralls
  • + 1
 Next inline... "The summer sweater" heat proof
  • + 1
 Hope I don't spill my decaf espresso on them!
#likeawhitecrayon
#useless
  • + 1
 Still suitable for us folks in Wales.
  • + 0
 cold weather shorts....dumbest idea ever lol

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