![]() | Our downhill DNA sparked the creation of our first ever all-mountain focused full-face helmet. Over two years in the development process, the Proframe has been tested and proven by our elite team of mountain bike athletes. You'll see it showcased in our upcoming full-length movie and throughout the year in races all over the world. We are excited to launch such an amazing new product, which brings the Iconic Fox attitude and aggressiveness to the world of trail riding. - Mike Redding, MTB Sports Marketing. |
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Not that it matters much. That it can be done is the most important part; that I can afford it will come later. Looks great, in principle and in form!
That is amazingly light, for comparison:
Giro Remedy CF Large is 1180g
Urge Down o Matic 1040g
Spec Deviant XL 1140g
These are all older helmets though, it would be nice to see what modern helmets are weighing in at.
enduro-mtb.com/en/first-ride-fox-proframe-helmet-how-good-is-the-new-ultralight-fullface
The big takeaway here:
So while we can tick the box next to ventilation after our testing, the question of protection is still wide open – especially regarding the chinbar. The fact that it satisfies the EN 1078:2012+A1:2012- and the ATSM standards doesn’t really answer the question, as neither tests the chin guard as part of the helmet. We’ve not had chance to take the helmet into the testing lab, so we’re unable to shed any light on its impact protection.
You might want to hold off until some proper tests can be done.
Summary: ASTM's F1952 Downhill Mountain Bicycle Racing helmet standard is significantly more stringent than the CPSC bicycle helmet standard. A helmet needs much more coverage to meet F1952, and is tested at higher impact levels. Chinbars are not required, but are tested if they are present
ASTM developed F1952 because downhill mountain bike racing has more crashes than street or road riding. The standard does not require a chinbar, but if the helmet has a chinbar (even one that is removable) then the chinbar is tested. Helmets with removable chinbars are tested both with and without the chinbar. Test lab impacts are more severe than the CPSC/ASTM F1447 standard, and the test line is significantly lower in the sides and rear, so the impact performance is tested in the added area. Helmets certified only to CPSC may have extra coverage in the rear, but it is not tested, and must be presumed not to meet either CPSC or the downhill standard.
defo. I have one. amazing ventilation. way better than Bell super. good fit crucial. must try before u buy. It feels no hotter than an A1 TLD TBH. recommended.
The only challenge is I think it only comes in 2 sizes (or 2 sizes I could try... was it Med and LG? ). For me the LG was way too big, while the Med was... the small side of perfect.
There was just 1 "hot spot" that my noggin could feel inside (a rough spot in the foam), so I just massaged it / smoothed it out with the rounded back of a spoon... just lightly smoothed and compressed the rough spot in the foam.
@BaeckerX1:
There's an interesting and informative chin bar test in the video that comes up when you land on the MET page:
www.met-helmets.com/en/products/mtb/parachute
Accidents happen, if you can reduce the potential for horrendous injury, then why not do so!
but in regards to the met parachute i just wanted to point out, that another manufacturer basiclly did the same concept a couple of years ago. just not that big of a name as fox racing
it's the direct opposite of what you implied.
In reality I much prefer riding DH with a proper full face (Fox Rampage Comp) as it is much more comfortable and safe feeling. For trail riding the MET is a little too hot in summer and too cold in winter (due to all the vents!), so I much prefer a half shell (Bontrager Quantum MIPS).
This leaves a really small window in early autumn when the MET makes sense for light DH, trails, or biking weekends or trips when I don't want to take two lids - but I am married with 3 kids, work long hours etc so MTB holidays aren't on the horizon, so in reality the MET usage window never really opens. In my experience these 'crossover' helmets make too many compromises to be really useful.
That being said, I do think that this helmet looks cool - and I want one!
Just wanted to say that the Fox helmet isn't that bulky compared to others, no offense
After a near-death experience with a tree, a boulder and my face on a local trail ride last spring, I committed to getting and wearing a full-face for all my riding - picked up the Parachute and I've been absolutely loving it ever since. I've started feeling naked when I put on my half-shell on a super-hot day....
notice how the fox is bulky in comparison (like the bell in fact)
I had a Fox Carbon Rampage Pro ( sold it , but it was comfortable but DH only ).
I own a IXS Xult ( nice but kinda of a cheap liner, and definitely not cool enough for climbing, still a DH only helmet ).
I own a Smith forefront ( decent but no Chin bar )
This could be a home run for Fox , I'll wait for more reviews before purchasing.
WTF is my met parachute then?
It's kinda like that dirty drug addict on the corner, he might be good with kids, but I don't really want to put him to the test.
This FOX helmet on the other hand, looks like a nice upstanding member of (full face) society, just a little leaner.
Given that the MET chinbar has smaller outside dimensions and weighing quite a bit less, I would bet quite a lot of money on the FOX having a substantially stronger chinbar.
This is just my opinion, and given that I haven't seen them tested head to head in a lab, I can't really prove anything.
since when did 50g become quite a bit less, then by your logic the Leatt helmet is better because it's heavier.
I've seen one up close this weekend, the Red and black one and, if you allowed, i would like to change my opinion from fugly to pretty ugly. Still very bad compared to the Fox. Still, the UVEX Jackyl is even worse if that makes you sleep better.
I also love how you ignored the other people above who also tore your argument apart. Seems about right.
Also, I haven't even voiced my opinion on either helmet, so again I don't know where on earth you got that from either. Yes, the person who keeps replying with increasingly incorrect statements and made up points (you) has the nerve to say I'm 'upset'. Fantastically funny.
Right now I bought a Giro Swicthblade, very happy with it, not as easy to put/release the chin bar as they say. But is ok, also it's kind of a bit hot here in Costa Rica summer, where somedays we have long very steep climbs at 26 to 31 centigrades. So the breathability is a winner here. And also I like the stealth black look, but the dust is hard to remove in this lid.
But well done FOX, design looks very nice.
TL;DR: Feels good, crazy light, going to still have second DH lid.
I just received mine in the mail today! I was going back and forth between this and the switchblade. I've own a Giro Remedy for DH for years and it's time to replace it, I mostly ride tamer DH on an Enduro bike and wanted more protection for Enduro riding. I occasionally rent a full DH sled when traveling as well.
First impressions: It's light!! It feels lighter than advertised (no scale) My Giro Remedy says 1050g on the inside, and this feels a full pound lighter. (Size Small) Wearing it feels like a trail helmet with cheek pads. It's -20 here so I won't be riding anytime soon but it doesn't feel like wearing a DH helmet at all while sitting here typing (yes I'm wearing my helmet right now).
That being said I've already ordered a new Giro Disciple as well for shuttling days. I don't think I'd feel confident on a DH sled with this helmet on, that's how light and breathable it is. I'm stoked to have the chin bar for riding enduro style rides or hot lift days when I'm not trying to ride with faster descenders.
I'm asking this because I know that quick-release buckles don't allow fine tightening unless you open them
We aren't talking about the first generation and you certainly aren't talking about the newest one.
Unless you've actually had a crash that requires a new helmet your option is fact less.
For me it's easier. I don't like solid visors. Switch does look killer with the chinbar on.
I'd be interested in taking this one for a roll.
Is lighter... carbon kevlar
www.airoh.it/caschi-bici/se-101
i hopes this sells well, because then Kali will make their own version which i'm sure i can afford.
Being Australian ventilation is critical, I choose all helmets carefully as a response and some helmets are just awful, especially some of the extra coverage all mountain helmets.
No it does not have a dial. AKA a fit system. Yes it does come with different pads you can swap out. Yes I have seen and worn one.
What would Finn wear?
The point is that the people who wear a convertible helmet would otherwise wear one with any chin bar, so your teeth do the impact absorption. The fact that it snaps off doesn't mean it didn't do its job.
I don’t think any one makes those any more
I tried one on 5 months ago(fox friend) but didnt ride one yet.
have another look at the video and the construction and integration of the parts