Fox Shox - Sea Otter 2011

Apr 14, 2010 at 1:29
Apr 14, 2010
by Tyler Maine  
 
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Update Wed 10:15 am: Added details and spec lists for all 180, 160, 40 products ( 13 total products )
* pricing to follow
Here is a quick preview of the new Fox Shox 2011 suspension lineup.

Stay tuned for more coverage.

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Price
$0
$0
$0
$0
Weight
2350 g
2380 g
2430 g
2470 g
Color Options
White
White
Black Diamond
Black Diamond
Travel
180 mm
180 mm
180 mm
180 mm
Spring
Air
Air
Air
Air
Crown
Single
Single
Single
Single
Body Type
Magnesium
Magnesium
Magnesium
Magnesium
Rebound
External dial
External dial
External dial
External dial
Stanchion material
Kashima Coat
Hard anodized
Kashima Coat
Hard anodized
Steer Tube
1.125
1.125
1.125
1.125
Damping
FIT
Open Bath
FIT
Open Bath
DropOut Options
20mm
20mm
20mm
20mm
Compression
Low speed, High speed compression
Internal
Low speed, High speed compression
Internal



Price
$0
$0
Weight
2700 g
2730 g
Color Options
Black Diamond
Black Diamond
Travel
180 mm
180 mm
Spring
Coil
Coil
Crown
Single
Single
Body Type
Magnesium
Magnesium
Rebound
External dial
External dial
Stanchion material
Kashima Coat
Hard anodized
Steer Tube
1.125
1.125
Damping
FIT
Open Bath
DropOut Options
20mm
20mm
Compression
Low speed, High speed compression
Internal



Some of the options include (look at each fork for detail)
- Low-speed High-speed compression
- Air spring pressure
- Lock out force adjust
- Travel is adjustable to 100mm in 10mm increments
- Rebound
- Talas 2 Position travel is adjustable down to 100mm in 10mm increments
- 20QR thru axle system, Post style disc brake mounting
- New Kashima stanchion coating







Price
$0
$0
$0
$0
Weight
2030 g
2050 g
2110 g
2130 g
Color Options
White
White
Black Diamond
Black Diamond
Travel
160 mm
160 mm
160 mm
160 mm
Spring
Air
Air
Air
Air
Crown
Single
Single
Single
Single
Body Type
Magnesium
Magnesium
Magnesium
Magnesium
Rebound
External dialq
External dial
External dial
External dial
Stanchion material
Kashima Coat
Hard anodized
Kashima Coat
Hard anodized
Steer Tube
1.125
1.125
1.125
1.125
Damping
FIT
Open Bath
FIT
Open Bath
DropOut Options
20mm
20mm
20mm
20mm
Compression
Low speed compression
Internal
Low speed compression
Internal



Price
$0
$0
Weight
2320 g
2340 g
Color Options
Black Diamond
Black Diamond
Travel
160 mm
160 mm
Spring
Coil
Coil
Crown
Single
Single
Body Type
Magnesium
Magnesium
Rebound
Dial
External dial
Stanchion material
Kashima Coat
Hard anodized
Steer Tube
1.125
1.125
Damping
FIT
Open Bath
DropOut Options
15mm
15mm
Compression
Low speed, High speed compression
N/A



Some of the options include (look at each fork for detail)
- Low-speed High-speed compression
- Air spring pressure
- Lock out force adjust
- Travel is adjustable to 100mm in 10mm increments
- Rebound
- Talas 2 Position travel is adjustable down to 100mm in 10mm increments
- 20QR thru axle system, Post style disc brake mounting
- New Kashima stanchion coating








Price
$0
Weight
3090 g
Color Options
Black Diamond, White
Travel
203 mm
Spring
Coil
Crown
Dual
Body Type
Magnesium
Rebound
External dial
Stanchion material
Kashima Coat
Steer Tube
1.125
Damping
FIT
DropOut Options
20mm
Compression
Low speed, High speed compression



Features
- NEW Kashima Coat
- Low-speed compression
- High-speed compression
- Coil spring preload
- Rebound
- Hydraulic bottom-out resistance in damper
- Travel is adjustable down to 6.5 inches in half-inch increments
- 20 mm thru axle system, International Standard disc brake tabs
- Titanium Spring




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245 Comments

  • + 43
 that new 40 looks rad
  • + 17
 new ano stansions look sick too
  • + 12
 yeh like brown sugar. maybe.

i like the new style lowers (decals and the new castings)
  • + 3
 now thats one sexy fork !
  • + 10
 And can I see a direct boXXer mount on the 40s
  • - 22
flag StuHaight (Apr 14, 2010 at 5:53) (Below Threshold)
 Why has Fox not yet choosen to build a 180mm single crown fork?
  • + 19
 they have!!
  • + 11
 look at the top there is the 180mm float 36 haha
  • + 24
 Jeez what I would do to remove my sorry ass comment... that's awesome that they got a 180mm version I don't know how I over looked that I just scrolled down right after the video.
  • + 3
 Why doesn't fox use the awesome quick release 20mm through axle on the 40s that they have on the 36s? Maybe because of weight... but that release system is the best I have used! Easier than regular QR with all the beefyness of 20mm.
  • + 7
 I´m glad they didnt use that stupid 15mm axle ...
  • + 1
 SICK!!gotta get my hands on one
  • + 1
 collin7 i think its because people don't usually take there front wheel off there DH bike
  • + 1
 those look amazing might just have to pick up a fox for my bank in 2011
  • + 7
 Finally a 180mm fox!
  • + 3
 FINALLY! they switched the rebound to the bottom and high/low speed to the top for 40! that makes so much more sense because personally i adjust high and low speed alot more than the rebound...
  • + 0
 Way to spell Talas wrong. TYYYYYYPOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Seksi forks though.
  • + 3
 YES ! no more bending down/leaning over & unscrewing the cap to adjust compression !
  • + 4
 Props for finally making a 180 mm fork they should have used the 40mm sancions tho
  • + 1
 sick how the 180mm fork is now a part of the fox litter. but i still think the 40mm single crown is the beast to feast (totem) Wink
  • + 5
 Omg that 40 is going to be amazing!! Better start saving my pennys.
  • + 1
 i personaly adjust the rebound a lot more often then the comps..so thats not a good change for me..and im really going to miss that cute little red knob on the top...but sick forks, damm!! 180?! cool))
  • + 1
 and if they are having all the trouble to make a whole new 180mm fork, why not making it a lil bigger? something like 36 = 160mm, 40 = 203 and 38 = 180 maybe?..a 36 with 180mm is going to look as thin and as "nor robust" as a rs domain..i mean, of course the fork rocks..no questions asked about the performance! but it probably doesnt look as mean and tough as the totems or 66s..
  • + 9
 ...and the forks are free!
  • + 3
 pperini: because it costs a hole ton more to manufacture a new size stanction and bushings and lowers and seals and all the other stuff, might as well stick with what they got and keep the prices low as they can.
Es würde echt cool sein, wenn Fox eine 38mm stanction machen würde. Aber zu teuer.
  • + 1
 new forks looking nice. hope they are a reasonable price
  • + 2
 freirider: but thats exactly what im saying..cuz look closely to the fork..the lowers and stantions are NOT the same as the 36! look at the 160 lower, the axle is at the very bottom of the fork, now look at the 180 36 lower, the internal tube goes past the axle, that means the axle is not at the very bottom, the 180 lower is a lot bigger! and cuz of that its also obvious that the stantions are also a lot bigger, so u can have more 20mm exposed but without compromising the stiffnes..yes ok all of the other parts are propably the same..but i dont think that they are the most expensive to remanufacture...und dein deutsch ist echt gut..ich bin aber kein deutscher, ich wohne nur in d-land..ich komme ursprunglich aus brasilien..machs gut!
  • + 3
 180mm fox fork = Smile . The day has finally come.
  • + 1
 I reckon they should use 40 lowers, and some shorter 40 uppers and crown, then they would have a super sick fork and it would be as stiff and strong and the totem. I'm not really a big freeriser but if I was I would definitely take the totem over the 36.
  • + 3
 NOW WHAT... SAY SOMETHING BAD ABOUT FOX SHOX!!!! WORLDS BEST FORK!!! I wish I could have my old 40 back.. Hey ain't nothing wrong with a 888 though!!!
  • + 1
 and I JIZZED IN MY PANTS!
  • + 1
 THERE FREE!!!! O.O
  • + 1
 LMFAO!!! HELL YA!!!
  • + 1
 I love how they never figure out the prices on time... It's as if they think that money grows on trees or something.
  • + 1
 no its bushes really.. I only see green bushes.. lol
  • + 16
 Sweet! fox 36 in a 180mm
  • + 5
 no van 180mm though Frown
  • + 4
 Ino some competition for the totems
  • + 2
 surely the float 180 is only RC2 not RLC2 as there is no lockout adjuster in the pictures nor is it mentioned in the description, only the title, the talas 180 is however RLC, but why that RLC and not the float 180 RLC or both RC2 like the 160 forks?
  • + 2
 it also says in the info that they have travel adjust? cant see a talas winder anywhere
  • + 1
 the 36 talas is a different fork, ie. its 160mm not 180mm. Look at the specs..


EDIT: looked at the video and theres a 140-180 talas.. weird they didn't show it here
  • + 1
 yeah thats what i though, probably give more info later this week
  • - 1
 by the looks of it, the picture of the talas on this blog, appears to be maybe 2? different version of the talas, one clearluy shows its the 180 one cause the lowers come down further, another shows the 36 one, as the lowers dont come down as far. Fox are realy confusing me now!
  • + 1
 Domino there has never been lockout on long travel forks.....ever
  • + 1
 i know, but not on fox as far as i know, i did confuse myself a lot with this article though :S
  • + 1
 i'm pretty sure this article got it wrong, they got the float and talas switched up. the talas is the one with 180mm travel that weighs 5.2 pounds, and the float 36 160mm is the one that weighs 4.67 pounds. doesn't make sense the other way around, which is what the article is saying.
  • + 1
 van is here, totems have no chance now
  • + 1
 i agree this article is soo wrong, it says the 180 forks are RLC but they are clearly RC2 and its only the 160 forks (in this article) that are RLC
  • + 1
 RE: jhowlett, The 180 Van's are right underneith the others.
  • + 1
 they werent when i posted that comment hence posting another one 2 hours ago
  • + 1
 Ah ok, no worries.
  • + 2
 rmesfcmdr9er Domino there has never been lockout on long travel forks.....ever coil totems did.......floodgate, pretty much lockout. jhowlett van is here, totems have no chance now totems for the win. bring on the negative props
  • + 1
 Yah floodgate isent lockout they are two different things only one is for long travel bikes and the other is for short travel marzochi has it too theirs is called mech. preload pretty much they each have there own method for doing the same thing make the fork stiffer or linear lockout is the most efficient way to do it for short travel and no one has a patent on it that's why every one can use it flood gate and mech. preload are patent systems that do the same thing differently for long travel forks
  • + 6
 finally!!! 180mm fox fork!!
  • + 2
 The QR20 system is licensed from Paul Turner, its basically his Tullio design (as RS Psylo's used about 8 years ago) with a different pop-out lever on the axle. Presumably their license sees them pay royalties on each model its used on, which is why only the Fox 36s get them. The 40s are meant for full on DH bikes and really... fast wheel changes aren't needed on a DH bike, but with the 36s which sell more to AM/FR setups... a quick in-out with the wheel speeds up flat tire repair times when you're being attacked by a million mosquitoes or holding up the group ride or something. Personally I don't see why they don't go to PM's for the 40s lowers.
  • + 1
 A longer travel 36 - finally the Fox range is complete! Every year Fox shows their new line-up and I think - Wow! Fox can't get much better than that - and the very next year, every year, they prove me wrong. I may as well just give them my credit card's pin number.
  • + 1
 All of the 40's are internally adjustable...there are spacers that can be moved from the top to the bottom to change the amount of travel. I have 06 40s and it's possible. You just remove the top cap, take out the spring and change where you want them.
  • + 1
 I hope that this 36 Talas is finaly the long lost Holy Grail I am waiting for since 6 years! An airsprung fork with a reliable lightweight Travel Adjustment. No one ever made a system that answers these criteria - I hope it's this one!

If they would made Fox36 180 with a reliable travel adjusment range 180-120 I would order it today. I wouldn't care if I would need to take loan, sell a car, TV Laptop. I would buy it straight away! I would also write a petition to CERN laboratory in Geneva to put up there at the entrance a memorial stone with engraved writing: Fox 36 180-120 Talas which changed the biking world forever.

Big props to Fox for refining the stickers, with all the respect to previous versions: but you finaly made something that looks masculine... Former roundish stickers with blue tail were pretty girly...
  • + 1
 > An airsprung fork with a reliable lightweight Travel Adjustment. No one ever made a system that answers these criteria - I hope it's >this one!

Nasi góra : www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUr9o53LxdM . Dziala i nie psuje się, a konstrukcja bardzo prosta
  • + 1
 nice!!! a czym sie to od ETA rozni?
  • + 1
 eta jest w sprezynowcach a to mozna stosowac w powietrznych z dwoma komorami. Taki 2 step jak u RS lub IT jak u Manitou
  • + 1
 to to jest jakis cartridge gotowy do kupienia sprezyna pow + zmiana skoku?. Czy ktos sobie po prostu domowa zmiane skoku zrobil do 66 SL?
  • + 1
 domowej roboty ale w przeciwienstwie do wynalazkow z RS i manitou dziala i sie nie psuje
  • + 1
 a sprzedaje to ktos? daloby sie to to do Lyrika wsadzic? Jesli to komplet sprezyna pow + zmiana skoku, to wole dac rodakowi zarobic, zeby rower odchudzic, niz kupowac Foxa Wink
  • + 1
 pisz do autora filmu to on jest konstruktorem. Ale raczej musilbys sobie to sobie zrobic
  • + 5
 2011 Float 36 180 vs 2011 Rockshox Totem .... Hmmmmmm
  • + 2
 Yeah i was just thinking that. You know BOS do 180 too? theyre like £1200 haha
In MBUK they said that the BOS ones were better than the TOTEMS
  • + 1
 Yeah but they cost about double to servvice and tune etc
  • + 1
 Rofl, no they dont.
  • + 2
 Oooh MBUK, must be right -.~
  • + 1
 Yeah but you can pick up Totems for £600. new. So not sure why you would want to buy the BOS forks. I mean if i had £1200 to spend then yes they are better , but 2x better. Think not.
  • + 0
 So what, if somebody wants the better product and can afford it, they will pay for it, they clearly arent aimed at people like you.
  • + 1
 Hmmm , Muttley , any need for that comment. Im sure wasnt aimed at me. But still. " People like you " ahha. How low do you want to get.
I really hope the guy you aimed this at is absoultely fu**ing loaded.
  • - 2
 shut up paul.
  • + 2
 No, there is no other way to put it, the BOS N'Dee is aimed at people who are WILLING to spend the money, you are not willing to spend the money, it is therefore not aimed at people like you.
  • + 1
 Thing is: Most people riding bikes do this as a hobby and therefore don´t have loads of money to blow on parts. Thus a 100% price increase for, say, a 20-30% better performance doesnt look like a good idea to me. Anyone with a calculator will know that. Let´s hope Fox aims their 180 fork at the mass market ( => totem price levels) and not the few "bling bling" riders that already own umpteen bikes (+ matching BOS forks) and dont know where else to put their money. I love BOS forks - but for average joe they´re just way too expensive.

The new lineup as a whole looks awesome, I love the decals and especially the new coating, let´s hope it really does what they tell us it does...
  • + 1
 Sorry but who involved you Em teeHayze. It clearly wasnt aimed at you. Grow up. Okay sorry Muttley I appologise if thats what you were getting at.
  • + 0
 no worries paul.


Think about the price for this new 180, look at the price for a top of the range 36 TALAS, its what, 850? All their forks will probably go up by 20-30% due to this bullshit kashima coating, and add another few hundred due to the fact its 20mm longer.

Its going to be a VERY expensive fork,id take the totem if i were you.
  • + 0
 Yeah all very good points , haha so true about the coating , I'd like to see if RS do anything different for 2011. They have their Lyriks 180mm Dual Crowns , which I wouldn't mind a go with. See how they perform in comparison seeing as they are quoted to be around £500-£600 range cheaper than both Totem and Floats.
  • + 3
 You all should be grateful there are companies out there that make top notch stuff. It progresses the technology and sport in general. I know not everyone can afford $6000 dollar bikes, I cant either, but the fact they exist makes it possible for that tech to trickel down to us mortals within a couple years. To argue that expensive components should not exist is ludacris. Does it upset you that they make Ferraris even though most of us will never get to drive one????
  • + 1
 The way you didnt understand a simple comment and overreacted on it got me involved. simples
  • + 1
 Its finished now. Leave it.
  • + 1
 @pauuuuul...

i thought the only RS dual crowns where the boxxers and the new domains?
  • + 1
 Yeah , sorry about that I now realise it is the domain not the lyrik thanks for the correction. Thats my mistake.
  • + 6
 all of them are so dope
  • - 9
flag wort (Apr 14, 2010 at 9:23) (Below Threshold)
 Don't like the allen-head pinch bolts. My little brother overtightened them on my 36 TALAS and cracked the lowers. $300 for new lowers... (Needless to say I like the QR levers much better.)
  • + 4
 Thats owners mistake though, nothing to do with the fork itself. It tells you not to over tighten them...
  • + 5
 They're called pinch bolts because they should be pinch tight, thats not Fox's fault. A finger and thumb on the short end of the allen key is all thats needed, just make sure you go back and forth between the two untill they're both nipped up properly.

Imo There is no need for QR anything on a downhill bike, except for that Straightline stem of course lol
  • + 3
 Hahahahaha thats awesome! Almost forgot about that stem thing hahaha
  • + 2
 and seat clamp, don't even tell me that you don't change seat height.
  • + 1
 Nopers, I have hope bolt through. I never change my seat height on a ride. Its exactly where it needs to be, and its not as though I'm going to be pedalling up.
  • + 1
 That would make sense then. I pedal up as well as on the descent. Don't have many full gravity runs here.
  • + 1
 loving the color of the stanchions
  • + 1
 FREEERIDE!!!
  • + 1
 These forks look amazing but in the past I have had problems with my 2007 40's leaking oil around the stanchions every so often. I sent them into fox to get overhauled, 120.00 USD later, they were leaking again after a couple weeks. I got tired of the maintenance and sold them. Does anyone know if this is still the case or if they are more reliable now?
  • + 1
 I have a 2010 40, and it is by far, the smoothest most reliable fork I have ever ridden.
  • + 2
 New Fox36 180mm will be head to head with RS Totem, Fox is well know for its smoothnes, but the price is so high and not user serviceable will be a handicap.
  • + 1
 I doubt the 36 180mm will match the Totems in stiffness, I would not compare these two only on the same travel basis.
  • + 1
 "not user servicable". how?
  • + 1
 if anything, the 36 180 will be better then the totem
  • + 1
 Is it possible that what they mean by "Talus 2 Position travel is adjustable down to 100mm in 10mm increments" is that travel be preset before you ride but not adjusted on the trail? (...or perhaps a mega typo)
  • + 1
 I think they mean internally, much like the older and current line of Fox forks, via shims.
  • + 1
 right right right - i think so too.
  • + 1
 i really like how they put the compression on the top, i hate taking off my HUGE protector cap to adjust the compression on my 40. not to mention all the new forks look so fucking sick
  • + 3
 the 40 are not post mount ?
  • + 2
 so is there two sets of 180mm fox forks coming out, i mean i seen two sets the 36 180 Float and the 140-180mm talas
  • + 1
 SHIT! These changes everything for my build up... Now I need to wait till they come available (2 or 3 months more, f@%&k!!!).
  • + 0
 thats because that one was a prototype with 40 lowers, these are brand new lowers casue there isnt enough travel to go that far. So stoked for the new 180's, getting them once there availabe
  • + 3
 haha fox is letting their emo side show through
  • + 1
 haha
  • + 1
 The coating contrasts very nicely with the black-diamond. I like that. What's even better is the above published pricing! That seems very competitive!!!
  • + 2
 fox builds the sickest single crowns on tha block but they will never touch the boxxer on the world cup scene
  • + 2
 heh, in fact many find Boxxer less stable than 40. Rshoxes used to be plusher but at the same time even latest models dive too easily under braking and in burms. Yes what is the lospeed compresion adjustment for? - its surely for that but then your ride just becomes harsher, at the same time if you really bomb the trails you don't experience it that much.

Both Fox and Marzocchi(being the plushest of all at the same time) offer more stable platform without excessive diving. Just look in the racing vids, that zocchi and fox maintain the certain travel level while Boxxers go up and down like maniacs. I own a Lyrik now and I find it less stable and more willing to dive than both of my former MZ 66rc2x and SL.
  • + 3
 Ok... i'm not a Fox fan... but good god i'm drooling all over my keyboard
  • + 0
 On 40s i havent seen interior yet but i bet they have inverted the interior damper so its possible that the fork is now lighter at bottom wich provides more ability to lift the front wheel.
  • + 1
 looks like it. On the mojo website a few weeks back that had an interview with Fabien, and he was running the upside down damper, in a picture. Its also easier to adjust comp on the fly. wonder if bump sensitivity will be increased?
  • + 1
 Does any one Know how much the 36 180 Float are going to cost. Are they going to be about the same price as the normale 36 floats cost.
  • + 1
 it ain't gonna cost as much as the 160mm version, it's gonna be way more, that's for sure. heads up though, rock shox is working on a replacement for the totem which is just 2,2 kilos.
  • - 2
 shit, i'd even run that on my DJ bike...
  • + 1
 i have totems right now and i did have 40s and i love the felling of fox forks but i wanted SC
  • + 1
 lol @ anything Fox being girly. It's all good... the internals have never failed on one of these forks/shocks for me. They only seem to make them better everytime.
  • + 2
 yea that 40 is so sick. it fells incredible to, a couple of guys from fox have been riding at carlmont.
  • - 1
 It seems like the top mounted compression knobs would be prone to accidental adjustments messing up your setting unless they are hard to turn. I simple rub up againt your pant leg could turn that knob who knows where. Just saying, it could and most likely will happen. :/ Still want it though, looks nice.
  • - 2
 if its anything like older foxes twisting them wont do much anyway
  • + 4
 pant leg? really? Have you ever used a fox travel adjust knob? They dont just adjust if the wind blows by ... and how often do you hit the top of your sanctions with anything? ...
  • + 3
 Wow. 6810g for the fox 40?! That's almost 15 lbs!
  • + 2
 oops that was a typo on my part. It's actually 3090g / 6.81 lbs Thanks for catching that.
  • + 2
 No problem. surprised no one else commented on that.
  • + 1
 Man those black Fox forks with the Kashima coating are looking amazingDrool .
  • + 1
 do you think they would look good on an 08 riegn X0
  • + 1
 Does anyone know when these are coming out to buy? So the new 40's are adjustable from 203mm to 160mm?!
  • + 1
 all 40's are you just put spacers in to reduce the travel
  • + 1
 yes, its been like that forever
  • + 2
 how the fox 40 is beautiful
  • + 2
 those look sooooo clean. definetley wanna get that float 180. thats legit
  • + 2
 At last Fox fork with 180mm travel! awesome!
  • + 1
 woah, sick! it says that all their forks are freeeeee! sweeeet, ima get one of each
  • + 1
 The 36 - 180 and the Talas are amazing. Probably will end up with a 180 eventually.
  • + 1
 It's here 8 inches single crown fox fork .. totaly radd only 3 kilos, how mush the 66 wieght?
  • + 0
 hella fuckin heavy
  • + 0
 pretty fuckin much
  • + 1
 the 66 Ti is 2850g, so only slightly heavier than the Van 180. Saying that those extra 150g makes it 'hella fuckin heavy' is pretty retarded.
  • + 1
 hes probably referring to the older 66's... so pre '08. the new marzocchis are much lighter
  • + 1
 yea, the older 66s are pretty heavy. fox definetley has their shit figured out when it comes to weight and uber plushness
  • + 1
 apparently the new ones are really light and plush... ill have to feel it to believe it
  • + 1
 point taken - yeah, the new ones are much lighter and feel amazing. Mine feels a lot better than the 2 Totems I've had.
  • + 1
 Rolando you would be wrong. its 180 mm which would be 7 inches... not 8
  • + 1
 when are the decals available from the request form? want to replace an old pair.
  • + 1
 not sure on the paint of the lowers and how they clash with the shinyness of the stickers :S stil look sick tho!
  • + 1
 WOW,This is a Porn....And the Stanchions look so cool this way....need one Smile
  • + 1
 I think I need that new 36 Talas for my Nomad C. Gold on black would match the matte carbon with gold pinstriping perfectly.
  • + 0
 There must be a 180 talas offering as well going by the talas top cap in the video at 50 seconds, with 140/180mm travel, where are the photos!!
  • + 2
 IMHO stupid color of that stanchions...
  • + 1
 they look awesome
  • + 1
 opinions
  • + 1
 ...are like assholes, especially on this site.
  • + 1
 im not sure what you mean by that
  • + 1
 Never heard the expression: "opinions are like a*sholes: everyone has one" before?
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 no, i thought you were calling me an asshole or something
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 Yeah well.
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 In the spec list of the 36 Talas I read "Talus".... What means "Talus" or is it a mistake?
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 yeah, i saw that as well. it's probably a mistake but i'm not sure. however tha whole article is made up of messed up info - it's not very clear what would the different models be. fox needs to release some more info.
  • + 1
 Can be a mistake, but I doubted bout that, because the Talas system seems to be changed again? "travel is adjustable down to 120mm in 10mm increments" instead of the 3 step now from 100/130/160.
  • + 1
 I'm sure it's a mistake: "Talus 2 Position travel is adjustable down to 100mm in 10mm increments" Uh yeah, two position travel and 10 mm step increments???
  • + 1
 Pretty sure it's a typo, since "TALAS" stands for "Travel Adjustable Linear Air Spring."
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 i am soo going to buy that 180mm to my demo!
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 Sick showing from Fox as per usual.
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 have they got it wrong or is the new 180mm fork adjustable from 180mm travel all the way down to 100mm travel?
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 I think the molland8 below may have shed a little light on this - at 50 seconds they show a fork that is '140-180' but it has a black crown. That white fork up top has no Talas adjuster - I think there is a mix up somewhere.
  • + 0
 I was confused about that as well, but I suspect the 36 Float 180 will be adjustable w/ internal spacers as the previous year's 160 was.
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 OMG!!!!!!!!!! love the design,and a 180mm FORK,finally!!!!!!!!!!
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 4 years ago, when I worked at a shop, I talked to a guys at Fox about making a 40mm Stantion fork with 180mm of travel. He laughed and said buy a 40 and drop the suspension. Looks like they finally listened. However, I still think they should have made it with 40mm stantions instead of 36mm.
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 Nice forks Razz
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 When are these for sale? I am forsure getting the talas 160mm and 40's
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 does anyone know how much the talas forks are!!!
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 new 40s, omg there so nice!!!!
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 Finally! A Fox fork with 180mm of travel!
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 How the hell did they drop 200gms off the 36 range?
  • + 1
 The new stantions look so sick! Great job Fox!!!!
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 Those 180 Talas' are gonna look freakin' sick on my Mojo HD!
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 why black????????why????????????????
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 To match my new Nomad C, of course.
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 but why has the 40 IS brake mounts still?
and all of these for a $ 0 price? tup haha
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 i will buy 4 for $0 please. lol. i think it's either to be determined or they are special editions maybe. but probably they haven't decided the price.
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 why haven't had 40 with air coil ??
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 good idea, keeps bugging me for several months, too.
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 sick everythings freeee!!!
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 Dont the athertons have 2011 fox 40's already i saw there new bikes on here the other day looking fine Smile
  • + 1
 Travel adjustable 40's? wow, that should be interesting.
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 theyve always had travel adjust
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 Loving the new line up! might have purchase the 40's when they come out...
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 how much r the 180mm froks
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 would never regret when i got these!
  • + 1
 holly shit those new forks are a must have
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 Awesome ,finally 180mm fork
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 i know finally! i'm so glad i didn't buy the totems, i'm gonna wait and see, i'm sure they will be awesome.
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 wow! they look very nice! awesome
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 how much will the new 40 stantions be?
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 amazin
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 price $0 Big Grin
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 no 1.5?
  • + 1
 talas looks nice
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 i peed a little
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 nice logo
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 when are they available?
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 very nice forks.......
  • - 1
 liking the new QR system, looks awesome and would certainly make it a lot easier to do without sacrificing strength
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 Same as last year. And the year before.
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 really? i thought that was new for next year.
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 they have moved the allen bolts wwhich determined how tight the clamp on wither side was as if people tightened it too much it would snap, its now enclosed!
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 looks the same to me. Personally I like the RockShox Maxel system best, its very simple and durable and easier to remove. Im guessing its lighter too because its less parts and just 1 clamp but maybe I'm wrong anyway im glad to see a 180mm single crown from fox, always was wondering when that day would come
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 oops, i thought i had deleted my post :S as it is virtually the same
  • + 1
 id kill for a 2011 40
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 2011 is looking SWEET!!! Drool
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 Wow they look so sick
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 Give me that.
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 That new 40 is for me.
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 I WANT!
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 jizzzzzzzzzzz
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 That QR system looks very nice. I'm afraid that the Titanium colour disappears?
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 I want that 40
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 best looking forks on the market Drool shame they're so expensive!
  • + 0
 theyre going to be a bob or two
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 Oh Talas are looking sooo nice. I smeggy'd my drawers.
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 i'm buying those 40's!!!!! for my evil ;D
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 OMG!!!!!!!
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 Good price.
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 That new Kashima colour is horrible! bring back Ano Gold!!
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 we want post mount...
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 I wonder why the 40s have an IS mount and the other forks have post mount? Is there some advantage for each one on the particular fork?
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 Perhaps with post mount the manufacturer can 'suggest' the size of the rotor, but with I.S., the rider chooses whatever size adapter they want.
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 Post Mount seems a better fitting to me and it can be run with any disc size just as the IS.
I have no clue why the IS is still on the 40's. Does anyone know the answer?
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 99% of forks with post mount are 160mm rotor compatible and then for bigger rotors you use adaptors. With DH fork it doesnt matter, as you run at least 180mm rotor, so you need an adaptor anyways so it doesnt matter whether this adaptor is a post mount or IS. Plus, take into account that all brake calipers nowadays (thankfuly)have PM so actualy it does not affect the adjustability. One could argue that IS is actualy better as you can just put spacers between the fork mount and the adaptor when your brake positioning adjustment is just not enough (like in mine) so you don't need to drill the caliper socket to enlarge it.

That is my first guess for not using PM on 40, and the second guess as the result of this first one. Look how PM is constructed: you have two small surface contact points coming out of lower leg body whereas in IS you have a long connecting surface, so i believe it is just more construction-wise.
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 IS mount has one huge advantage, since the bolts that hold the caliper on go through the fork and not into it, if you strip the threads you only need a new caliper mount, and not a whole new fork lower. Perhaps this is more likely to happen on downhill forks, where the brake gets smashed by a rock and strips some of the threads. Or maybe its just because creating a new die for the fork lowers would be expensive and there is really no need to switch to post mount.
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 Stripping the PMs wouldn't be a problem if anyone spent a bit of extra money/effort to cast stainless steel inserts into the posts. Think about it; you're threading steel bolts into aluminum or magnesium threads...which one is going to fail?! (Hint: it's not the cheap steel bolts).
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 teagues - I agree, I am always affraid of damaging threads in my fork. Since Magnesium is so soft it's not a hard thing to do. At the same time cast in saintless stuff is just making aunsuspended mass heavier (you would need some certain amount of magnesium around these stainless bores. Since you also put together two different materials joined in process needing high temperatures that also might create problems. I mean its just not worth the complications to me...

rasterman: great point!

I do believe DH forks should stay with IS. All others have to have PM as people must be able to mount caliper for 160 rotor setup without adaptors.
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 WAKI, we're thinking along the same lines. Since I'm not a metallurgist, I don't know if there's a more cost-effective/easier way to do it.

It would be a bigger deal if I kept a fork for longer than about six months Smile It only took me replacing one set of lowers (due to under-torquing, rather than over-torquing) to learn my lesson...we have precision torque wrenches for a reason, right?

For the likes of my Totem, I absolutely agree: I'd still like a 160mm PM that I can fix a 203mm adapter to. The adapter never has to come off once set, no matter how often you pull your caliper off. And adapters are another cheap thing that one can easily afford to damage/strip...and yet, after all the years of adapter IS mounts, I've still to strip one by over-torquing it...
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 Good points all. Waki and teagues, they could make the post mounts stronger by having a larger magnesium post but with either a helicoil or steel threaded tube. I used to work in a company that made a product whose housing was cast aluminium and we helicoiled everything for extra strength. I can't see why you can't do the same to magnesium.
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 Waki, you talk above about adjustability - you could always run spacers between the hub and the rotor - check out Syntace Disc Shims:

www.syntace.com/index.cfm?pid=3&pk=757

I've used these so that I can run two different wheelsets without having to adjust the calipers each time. I was worried that there may be more levereage on the bolts, but if people can run Ti bolts and three bolts, then six steel bolts are stronger than needed.
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 Unfortunately for me I have center lock hubs& rotors + i have a problem with calier not reaching enough to the hub side. I would need a 0,5mm spacer between hub and fork which is also impossible for me to do as I use Maxle. So stripping off metal on caliper is the only option for me
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 mmmmmmmmm, bike porn.
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 i'm wet...
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 they look beast

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