Fox Transfer Dropper Seat Post - Review

Jun 7, 2016
by Mike Levy  
Fox Transfer seat post


Fox's brand new Transfer seat post replaces the company's long-serving D.O.S.S. that, while relatively heavy and depending on an ungainly remote, had earned the title as the king of reliability against a sea of droppers that were anything but dependable at the time. The Transfer, which takes its name from the untimed sections of an enduro race, uses nitrogen-sprung and hydraulic internals that allow for infinite seat height adjustment throughout its travel compared to the D.O.S.S.' three-position mechanical design.

The 517 gram Transfer can be had in either internal or external routing - there are specific models for each - as well as a less expensive, non-Kashima Performance model that costs $264 USD. Want that gold in your life? The Factory Transfer reviewed below retails for $314 USD. Fox sells the Transfer's $65 1X and 2X/3X remotes separately, which adds to the post's competitive price but also means that the consumer gets the remote they need without having to buy a second one after the fact. That means that the Factory post shown here would go for $379 USD with a remote, and the non-Kashima Performance model would go for $329 USD.

For comparison's sake, a Reverb Stealth has an MSRP of $471 USD ($400 for the standard version), the new Race Face Turbine costs $470, and Thomson's two options go for $449 - $479. The 9point8 Fall Line and Specialized Command Post IRCC are closer in price at $379 and $350, but the $329 Transfer Performance (with the remote) beats them all on price.


Fox Transfer
Transfer Details

• Intended use: maximizing the fun
• Travel: 100, 125 (tested), 150mm
• Infinitely adjustable travel
• Nitrogen spring
• 1X or 2X/3X remote options
• Internal or external-specific options
• Black anodized (Performance), Kashima (Factory)
• Diameter: 30.9, 31.6mm
• Weight: 517 grams (post only, 30.9, internal)
• Availability: now
• MSRP: $264 USD (Performance), $314 USD (Factory), $65 USD (remote)


Fox Transfer seat post
Fox Transfer seat post
The Transfer's head is basically the same trouble-free two-bolt design that was used on the D.O.S.S.


Much like the D.O.S.S. post, Fox went with a zero-offset, one-piece head rather than bonding a separate unit to the top of the stanchion, and two opposing bolts are used to adjust fore/aft and seat angle. This is likely a touch heavier than a single-bolt setup, but it's also essentially impossible for the seat to slip or rotate, regardless of how hard the rider slams down onto it. Underneath the lower cradle is also where Fox hides the access to the Transfer's internals. There's a 400 PSI nitrogen charge in there, so you will lose at least one eye, maybe two, if you open this. ''Think of it like a rear shock - you need special tools to take it apart and training,'' said Fox's Mark Jordan of rebuilding the Transfer. ''A good shop can do it but the average consumer will probably not want to do it.''


My Transfer test seat post is designed around internal cable routing, with an actuation assembly at the bottom of the post that allows for tool-free disconnection thanks to a slotted cable stop. It's a similar looking setup, at least externally, to a lot of other dropper posts out there, with the cable end sitting in a small bushing that slots into the end of a short actuation arm.

The externally routed Transfer sees Fox locate the actuation assembly on the side of the lower tube, just below the seal head, so that a rider doesn't have to deal with a big loop of housing like they would have had Fox mounted it up at the top of the post. This housing stop can also be rotated by 60° forward or backward as required to allow for optimal cable routing.
Fox Transfer seat post
The slotted housing stop and actuation arm allow the Transfer to be removed from the bike without tools.

Fox Transfer dropper post


I don't think anyone out there is going to be sad to see Fox's old remote lever (which was so long because of the leverage required to activate the mechanical D.O.S.S.) be replaced with a much smaller design that's used to control the hydraulic Transfer. Fox offers two remotes, one being a slick looking 1X version that mounts in place of a front shifter. Riders who have more than one chain ring on their bike will want to use the 2X/3X remote that mounts up against their left grip and has a vertically oriented lever rather than the 1X's laterally mounted lever. Both versions cost $65 USD and neither come with the post.

Both remotes are hinged to make installation easy, and the 2X/3X remote also comes with a noodle/barrel adjuster combo that allows for some adjustment while eliminating the massive loop of housing that would otherwise be in front of your handlebar.
Fox Transfer
The 2X/3X lever is designed to fit up against your right or left grip.


Fox Transfer seat post
Fox Transfer seat post
The cable is clamped at the remote with a setscrew, and the end can be tucked up and out of the way into a small slot.



What's On the Inside?

When the remote is depressed, the cable is pulled and the actuation arm rotates up to move the push rod that runs through the center of a hollow shaft. Attached to the end of this shaft is a piston, with the push rod opening up passages that allow oil to flow through when the post needs to move up or down in its travel. These oil passages are shut when the remote lever isn't depressed and the push rod doesn't open them, thereby locking the Transfer in place anywhere in its stroke. The basic idea is one that's employed in other dropper posts that use a hydraulic cartridge, although a closer look reveals that Fox has done a few things differently.


Fox Transfer seat post


Instead of a simple on/off oil port system that essentially acts in the same manner as a compression lockout would inside of a fork, Fox use a two-way, two-position spool valve at the center of the Transfer's large diameter piston. A spool valve is a cylindrical piece that is used to alternately block and open oil flow paths, and Fox says that using one provides excellent durability and smoother action due to there being less friction in the system, which in turn means that there's less force required at the lever.

The spool valve is spring-backed, so it returns to a closed position when the push rod is released, and its design, along with the cable-pull ratio, means that a rider should be able to easily control the post's compression and return speed at the remote.

Fox Transfer
The Transfer's shaft, with the piston at the far right.

Fox Transfer
Fox Transfer
The spring-backed spool valve that sits inside of the piston.


Fox Transfer dropper post
When the spool valve is closed, oil is blocked from moving through the flow ports. When the spool valve is moved up, the ports are opened and oil can flow in either direction.


Interestingly, Fox has also incorporated a pressure relief valve that is said to be able to compensate for oil pressure build-up that can be caused by thermal expansion from activating the post a lot or extreme changes in elevation. Have you ever noticed how your hydraulic seat post sometimes feels firmer to compress or comes back up quicker than usual? That's exactly what the Transfer's pressure relief valve is supposed to remedy, with Fox claiming that it provides more consistent action.

The small, spring-loaded valve (shown at right) sits atop the piston, and when the pressure above overcomes the spring rate pressure, it opens to allow oil to flow through a tiny port in the spool valve, thereby balancing the system and returning everything to normal.
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The pressure relief valve is said to make for more consistent action.




Performance

Without a shifter on the left side of my handlebar, I bolted on the 1X remote that uses a laterally-mounted paddle rather than the even smaller 2X/3X remote and its vertical paddle. The remote's action is quite smooth, with a medium amount of force required to control the post, about similar to other designs out there, although this can be greatly affected by cable routing. The thumb paddle is comfortable and doesn't have any alarming edges that might open up your skin, and the slim clamp makes it easy to get the best side-to-side position. However, I did find that it sits a bit too far out from the handlebar, meaning that I had to unwrap my thumb from the grip a bit more than I'd like, similar to a Reverb button. Rotating the remote to sit farther under the bar would make all the difference, but it was already right up against the underside of my brake lever perch.


Fox Transfer seat post


Required lever throw is minimal, which is quite nice because it feels like merely breathing on the remote will get your seat out of the way. And when you do need it to drop, it happens regardless of if you have all of your weight on the seat before pushing the lever, which isn't something that some mechanical dropper posts can say. Drop speed is quite fast as well, and it never felt like I was fighting to get it down through the last inch or so of travel as the nitrogen-spring ramped up.

The post's easy action meant that whenever I rolled up to the edge of something sketchy I could make the seat disappear with zero delays.

It was also easy to tickle the remote just enough to have the seat lower slowly and stop exactly where I needed it to be, a good tactic for a steep, technical climb that looks like it might cause some issues. There are only a few things more embarrassing than crashing on a climb, right? I never really got the hang of teasing the post up in the opposite direction, though, especially in the heat of the moment, and I ended up using my ass to control how high it rebounded when I wasn't looking for full leg extension quite yet.
Fox Transfer seat post

If you've used the old D.O.S.S. seat post, you probably felt your plums retreat up into your body when you first realized the speed that it returned at and the clang it made at top-out. This was never really an issue, though, and the lightning-quick rebound is a real blessing in the heat of the moment on technical trails. The Transfer rebounds nowhere near as fast as its predecessor, but it does still return quickly, slower than a D.O.S.S. or Command Post but quicker than a Reverb or KS LEV, with an easily audible 'tunk' when it reaches full height. You won't ever be left guessing with the Transfer.


Fox Transfer seat post
Fox Transfer seat post


I'm not going to pretend that I can comment on the Transfer's long-term reliability - I've only put about thirty rides on it due to time constraints - but it has been flawless since I installed it. Not only did I not have to make any tension adjustments after first attaching the cable, but I still have yet to turn the barrel adjuster. This hopefully means that the new Fox post isn't as sensitive to cable tension as a KS LEV Integra can be. As for the pressure relief valve and if it actually makes a difference, the speed at which the seat comes back up has never once felt any quicker or slower than when I first installed it. I have had most other seat posts rebound a bit slower or faster than they normally would on the rare occasion, but I'd also say that it has never actually been an issue. Either way, it doesn't sound like that can happen with the Transfer.




Pinkbike’s Take:
bigquotesWith the discontinuation of the ultra-reliable D.O.S.S., and the fact that other companies are now producing some pretty good options, Fox's Transfer dropper post needs to be a home run. While my time on it has been limited, it seems as though Fox has managed to hit this one out of the park. If it were me, I'd probably save myself a bit of coin and buy the blacked-out Performance model for $329 USD that's identical mechanically and weighs the same as the more expensive Factory Transfer, but doesn't receive the Kashima treatment. Reliability is the only question mark, but it does look promising - I'll have a much longer-term review down the road to answer this. - Mike Levy



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297 Comments
  • 231 5
 So Fox produced a component that's an improvement on the previous generation and competitively priced?
STOP STOP I'M NOT READY FOR THE WORLD TO END!
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On a more serious note, very interested in this thing, we'll see what the pricing looks like once it hits the UK.
  • 28 1
 EU price will be more like 399€
  • 28 76
flag endurocat (Jun 7, 2016 at 8:46) (Below Threshold)
 You will need to purchase the remote?
WTF !
  • 34 0
 UK RRP is £299 for the black upper, £339 for the Kashima. Price includes your choice of either remote.

Boom.
  • 23 4
 @tabletop84: 369€ with the Kashima coating, 319€ without and 99€ for the remote alone. Yes 99€ for a remote ... It's cheaper to buy and hack and XTR front shifter ...
  • 7 1
 @enrico650: If you think of it as a kit, its still cheaper than a reverb. It keeps their costs down, and ours by reducing the number of SKU's that they need to produce, package & ship. Dat supply chain tho.
  • 9 2
 @enrico650: you didn't read the whole thing did you?
  • 5 0
 @unclemuscles: maybe they do it so you can choose which one you need
  • 25 3
 Don't worry. I am sure that fox will make up for it reasonable price when it comes time for service
  • 2 0
 @enrico650: nah, I don't think that it at all. Based off of what I read in the article at least.
  • 5 1
 @enrico650: ding ding ding....bob, tell em what he's won!
  • 5 3
 @Euskafreez: Hope you can figure out how to make an XTR(or any other, for that matter) shifter clamp a cable... I get where fox was going with putting the cable end at the post, but locking us into their expensive, non i-spec or matchmaker compatible remote is a real bummer.
  • 3 0
 @tabletop84:
From Enduro-MTB magazine:
"The FOX TRANSFER dropper post is available in two options, the Performance version with a black anodized shaft for €319 (£299) and a gold Kashima-coated version for €369 (£339) with the lever included (spare levers cost €79)."

The set for Performance (non-kashima) will be 400 EU and 450 EU for Factory (kashima)
  • 2 3
 @Stampers: A Trek Fuel 29er!
No thanks.
  • 2 4
 @Euskafreez: or buy a KS Southpaw or the new Easton/RF trigger remote.
  • 1 0
 Double post, sorrry!
  • 5 0
 @Euskafreez @cool3 - The Transfer's remote works differently than those. The cable end is at the bottom of the post, and the cable is clamped at the remote with a small setscrew.
  • 2 0
 @mikelevy: Is there a similarly designed actuation system on a different post that uses opposite cable orientation and a similar size bushing with a setscrew for cable clamping at the post end? If so, and if it fits this post, that may be a simple and cheap solution for the shifter hack.
  • 2 1
 @mikelevy: I'm interested in this because my giant contact post works a very similar way with the cable head in the post. I hate the lever for mine so this looks like a good replacement.
  • 6 8
 @mikelevy: This is not good news. I wish more manufacturers would agree on a "standard" (!) for remotes so we could swap depending on our taste and morphology and not be stuck with just one design. Anyway, I got the Southpaw for my LEV and it is definitely a good investment compared to the stock control.
  • 9 1
 @cool3: The Southpaw is awesome - it works very well and is mega adjustable.
  • 2 0
 @mikelevy @groghunter The removable cable end from a KS Lev Integra should do the job. If not, when there is a will there is a way.
  • 2 0
 @groghunter: came here to say the same thing. I've already converted an XTR front shifter for dropper use. Would consider buying the performance version of this post tomorrow if I could still use that lever.
  • 1 0
 @groghunter: maybe you could jury rig (jerry rig?) a small set screw style clamp to act as a cable stop? Maybe not...
  • 2 2
 @groghunter: jarad graves used to have an XTR shifter for the thomson elite dropper on his SB66. it was a wicked mod that worked really well, felt very natural
  • 1 0
 You could probably ride this new post without a seat installed.
  • 2 3
 Bla, bla, bla... I´m still trying to kill my Reverb so i can have a great time playing with the service kit Wink
  • 1 0
 @tabletop84: which will then become £399 in the uk
  • 1 0
 @Euskafreez: Thomson Covert dropper lever should work and I love how small and nondescript it is
  • 1 0
 The first FOX product i can imagine buying from a loooong time.
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: I have a modified shifter on my Command Post IRCC. Do you think that will work with the Transfer?
  • 2 0
 @mikelevy: I have mine paired with the 9point8, which needs slack in the cable. The downside is it rattles like crazy.
  • 139 14
 This article has it's ups and downs
  • 186 16
 You guys need to drop the puns already. I'm fed up with it.
  • 67 3
 but it rebounded rather quickly
  • 51 7
 My expectations are pretty low for this conversation. I might raise them by 150mm...depending on terrain
  • 39 17
 @mikelevy it seems your post is stuck half way because nobody seems to care about you being anoyed with these puns
  • 49 0
 @mikelevy: Sorry, but the puns will be extended with many more posts before they finally get dropped...
  • 104 1
 If it stays extended for over 4 hours should I call a doctor?
  • 5 18
flag sewer-rat FL (Jun 7, 2016 at 9:09) (Below Threshold)
 @g-42: precisely, I'm going to extend them further
  • 11 19
flag captainspaulding (Jun 7, 2016 at 9:14) (Below Threshold)
 @mikelevy: haha I see what you did there.
  • 9 1
 @captainspaulding: post match analysis is not looking good,
  • 46 0
 Don't know if I should try to play with puns on PB considering I'm from such a remote country from you and my English level is not very high as you do.
  • 12 3
 You're just trying to get a rise of me.
  • 10 4
 @mikelevy: there's a constant Reverb to all these puns
  • 29 2
 All these puns are making me want to Transfer to another article.
  • 18 26
flag WAKIdesigns (Jun 7, 2016 at 10:31) (Below Threshold)
 At least Fox won't leave us bleeding...
  • 22 2
 Ima opinion it's not worth the kash.
  • 13 2
 @milanboy1986: Go for it - I'm sure you'll be able to outfox us
  • 9 1
 Once the puns drop you can't stop!
  • 9 24
flag WAKIdesigns (Jun 7, 2016 at 12:12) (Below Threshold)
 It seems that my pun didn't reverberate around the room... 20 hours passed, time to reduce friction.
  • 13 1
 @mikelevy: you just need to lower your expectations.
  • 5 2
 If the price dropped then I'd probably throw some Kash at one of these.
  • 3 1
 @nakos: oh my god you win. you win everything.
  • 2 6
flag rockhammer (Jun 7, 2016 at 16:09) (Below Threshold)
 But what about people still on the last generation? D.O.S.S. this mean Fox will stop servicing older posts?
  • 5 0
 I don't even remotely like this review.
  • 1 1
 @Thustlewhumber: Shwing me one my way please
  • 2 1
 @rockhammer: Fox changed its name to D.U.M.P. so the people know what to do.
  • 2 3
 @mikelevy: Maybe you should also realise that mtb industry has gone too far on some points....
As a media, you have to have a special point of view. On some points, your review looks like a sponsored content...

Come on, dropper posts has been on the market for several years, and yet, we have 400 $/€ (pick yours) products coming up with no really groundbreacking innovation. That's just ridiculous price, can't deny it.
  • 114 0
 The lever isn't kashima? Come on Fox
  • 5 10
flag RedBurn (Jun 7, 2016 at 8:23) (Below Threshold)
 And the cable too.. June fool?
  • 16 5
 DIE KASHIMA DIE!!!
  • 59 0
 @manchvegas: is that German for
"the kashima the"?
  • 22 0
 Can I get a kashima coated cable yet Fox? How can I endro without kashima cables.
  • 4 5
 i like the fact that you can choose your lever but i was never aware the levers are so expensive. $65 for a lever seems a bit too extreme
  • 10 6
 @IllestT: no I just can't stand that fox is STILL after all this time asking people to pay extra for a different colored stansion that serves no actual benefit. Yes, ofcourse I bought the kashima one.. duh
  • 2 0
 @IllestT: oh, and black is back!
  • 3 1
 @pigit77: Seems a bit harsh for a simply cable-based system. I mean, all it does is mount to the handlebar and deliver a small amount of pull to the post. It's way less complicated than (also cable based) shifters. That said - the Reverb hydraulic lever kit is almost twice as much. You could argue that because it's hydraulic, of course it's more - but there's not that much to it, as far as hydraulic parts go. And it's a bit infuriating, as these things tend to take hits and need replacing once in a while.
  • 1 0
 @IllestT: what a comment
  • 3 0
 @samfr1000: I can't take full credit I'm afraid
youtu.be/gaXigSu72A4
  • 2 0
 @IllestT: nobody who speaks German could an evil man
  • 1 0
 @IllestT: Don't panic, I got the reference. That's what made it so great.
  • 25 3
 Non-User service or rebuild-able? Lame. Paying a shop, or even needing special tools to rebuild something as simple as a dropper post is unacceptable these days. Crank Brother Highline, Gravity and even RST are releasing dropper posts with sealed, user-replaceable cartridges under $50. As much as I loathe the Reverb, at least it's seal kits are cheap and easy to replace (with soft jaws). Fox is supporting their dealer network, good for them, bad for the consumer.
  • 36 0
 You live in 1st world country , in Brazil , Fox Service dosen't exists , If need the service, throw in trash , or go to USA to service . It's sucks!
  • 6 0
 That's a good point. And as often as parts blow up in AZ, having a quick and cheap repair option is nice.
  • 5 2
 It should also be noted that a Giant Contact SL also utilizes a replaceable sealed cartridge, hence why they are so much more reliable.
  • 1 1
 @PHeller: love my giant. hate the lever. will be buying one of these levers as it is one of the only ones i have found where the cable head is in the post rather than in the lever.
  • 4 1
 I have a gravity dropper. I can pull the inner post without tools and rebuild it with a multi tool. Although after 8 years of ownership i haven't needed to touch it...
  • 1 0
 well.. i think they made it to perform good, i think they found nitrogen is the best option for the functionality of the dropper, the thing is you can kill yourself if you try to open a container with 400pis of nitrogen :v for every good thing comes a bad one
  • 20 3
 Or you can buy the Giant Contact dropper for 300usd (remote included) and have one of the most reliable posts out there plus extra cash in your pocket.
  • 13 0
 Seriously, I can't believe Giant isn't advertising their post more. It's like they don't care, but they needed a dropper for their bikes and just came up with the simplest design that performs just as well as all the complex, expensive posts out there, and nobody knows about it.
  • 9 1
 Too bad it's 30.9mm only. It's the best dropper out there for the money. User serviceable aswell.
  • 5 1
 @m47h13u: seatpost shims are cheap. Needing a shim didn't stop me from going with the Command Post in 30.9 and now I know in the future I can run a Giant Contact. Just wish we had more adapters to use various cable posts with different cable end connections.
  • 3 0
 @m47h13u: this is going to be my next purchase I think. Just waiting for it to come out in the UK. 150mm drop too.
  • 5 4
 I have the Giant. It's decent, but for an extra $25 I'd rather try the Fox.
  • 10 1
 @dthomp325: Until it shits the bed then your $25 doesn't mean anything. So many people will pay more for less just because of the brand or the FANCY COLORS.
  • 1 0
 going on 2 years problem free with my giant dropper. only service i do is greasing the stanchion every couple of months to keep the action smooth.
  • 1 0
 User serviceable? How to I get access to the dust wiper to clean the gunk out of it? Frown I'm getting minimal lift at the moment and don't want to buy a new cartridge until I've been able to clean the top seal/wiper properly.
  • 2 0
 @fraggler: for the giant dropper I just apply some park tool grease to the stanchion and then cycle it a few times, rub some more around, and then cycle it again. This keeps it smooth for quite a while
  • 1 1
 Just bought one new online for 214CAD (after first asking my local Giant shop if they could give a small discount on the official 300 CAD, but no...)
Looks great and weight is absolutely reasonable (636g before cutting the longish cable).
  • 1 0
 @Amart Is it possible to get a 1x remote for the Giant? I've searched online, but I can't seem to find anything on this.
  • 3 0
 @fraggler: put a two inch strip of electrical tape on the stanchion at a slight angle but mostly vertical. Undo the collar with the dust seal and slide it up the stanchion and try to slide it over the tape - you may push the collar from the opposite side as the tape to create a tiny gap between the wiper seal and the stanchion to fit over the tape. Once you have the collar over the tape, twist the collar while slowly sliding it up the tape. The edge of the tape will scrape crud from inside the wiper seal. Keep at it until there is no more crud. Clean any visible gunk away and then grease and then slide the collar back down and tighten.
  • 1 0
 @trevor426: Giant just does the 1 style remote. I`ve been running 1x since I got 10 speed a number of years ago. I have no issues with the giant remote. @Cpolegatto modified an old front shifter to work with his Giant dropper. And a couple other buddies of mine built a little stud out of an old lock clamp and a piece of handle bar so that they could run the Giant lever in that horizontal position. It works pretty good and looks clean. I personally have no issues with the stock Giant lever and how it mounts, plus you can't crack your knee on it. I may try the lock clamp and bar bracket, but I think after this many years of running the stock Giant lever I am just used to it. I have also seen the KS southpaw lever modified to work with the Giant post.
  • 1 0
 i love my giant dropper! got mine 2 months ago, for like 170usd new, i bought the 400 length - 100 travel for a Fuel EX, i made a shim to fit 31.6, it works pretty good for me! i think grease isn't good since it can solidify, isn't it? :v i've used wet chain oil for the dropper and fork, both are working very smooth!
  • 2 0
 @jorge269: mixed with dust, chain lube solidifies much worse than grease, in my experience. i used to use chain lube on my derailleur pulley wheels until i realized it was clogging them up
  • 1 0
 @xeren: damn, that's bad! i only use the wet chain lube on my roaddie, since it isn't much likely to get dirty, but i noticed chain accumulates huge amounts of dirt, not like the dry one that i use for the mtb chain, so perhaps it isn't good at all :v anyways, i'm gonna have mine changed by warranty in a month or so Big Grin bought it with bolts to change inner routing seized, they are going to change it so i can have it internally routed Razz
  • 1 0
 @iamamodel: Awesome! That's some great thinking. Thanks for the help guys.
  • 12 1
 Is Kashima worth the money when my current post works just fine? I guess it just depends on whether or not my butt sense a smoother actuation.
  • 18 0
 ask yourself if slightly reduced friction on a dropper post is necessary.... on suspension it performs a job since the fork/shock is dynamic and moving rapidly from compression to rebound, so reduced friction is noticeable and very rewarding. For a dropper post, where it's static until you decide you want to adjust it, it's pretty much unnecessary.
  • 58 1
 @Mitch7Yeti - I'd say no, but Fox does say that it makes for a better sealing surface. Meh. I see a lot of riders preferring the Kashima model as it will match their fork and shock.
  • 33 0
 The real reason comes out!
  • 21 0
 @maxlombardy: And a perfectly valid one. Except the kashima shade on my front and rear is different.
  • 16 0
 In suspension it makes a slot of sense, but let's be honest, no one wants to ride a dropper that doesn't match there fork. That's just a fashion disaster!
  • 4 12
flag CaptainSnappy (Jun 7, 2016 at 9:22) (Below Threshold)
 @mikelevy:

Eye catching post = more likely to be stolen by a crim, IMO.
  • 3 2
 @mikelevy: I'd probably prefer the black, but then I'm not much into bling. On the sealing - is that supported by what people report about forks and shocks? If it's truly better sealing, you'd think people would get away with longer service intervals on their Kashima suspension bits. Seems like the surfaces of the standard parts or so smooth already, the effect of even smoother Kashima would pale compared to (a) keeping the seals fresh (a matter of maintenance intervals) and (b) wiping down and then spraying on some suspension lube (like a PTFE based spray lube) after every ride.
  • 10 1
 Why blow $50 USD when you can unleash your inner DIY with this:

www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-1910830-Metallic-Spray-11-Ounce/dp/B000QD3GPW

And you can do all your friend's posts too!
  • 7 1
 @g-42: Surface finish, measured in microinches (Ra), does affect sealing. The smoother the surface, the less changes there are of air/oil/gas/etc escaping. It's minimal, but it does make sense that a smoother surface from molybdenum disulfide impregnated anodizing (kashima) will provide a better sealing surface than a hard anodized surface with a higher Ra value. It's very minimal however, as the parent material's surface finish will have a larger affect if it's not made smoother than the required end Ra value.
  • 1 0
 I thought I read that the Kashima surface is actually harder and therefor less prone to scratching. Though I’ve seen plenty of scratched Kashima stanchions.
  • 1 0
 @jeremiahwas: the Vickers value is similar at 400 or above. The benefit from kashima is it's lubrication properties, which reduces wear and provides a smooth, self lubricating surface.
  • 8 1
 @recipher: I've always wondered why they can't the shades of Kashima to match between their forks and shocks. The shocks are always darker. The post looks to be closer to the fork, but from the photos it also looks more gold. So if you get this, you'll have three mismatched shades of Kashima. Gross.
  • 4 0
 @ARonBurgundy: the substrate material will affect the finish color. if the fork stanchions are a different aluminum than the fork tubes the color may be different.
  • 3 2
 @mikelevy: Only it won't actually match, since Fox can't seem to figure out how to make their stanchion colors match between their forks and shocks.
  • 10 0
 @recipher: When the kashima on your fork and shock doesn't match the kashima on the dropper post... #FirstWorldProblems
  • 2 0
 As sad as it is its probably gonna come down to colour! For me the cheaper black post would be my pick . Even if it was the other way round and the black was more $$ then being the fashion slave i am I'd still go the black!! .......sad so sad
  • 2 0
 @jaydubmah: MTN (Montana brand) Low-Pressure warm gold is better.
  • 1 0
 @endlessblockades: Now THAT is a colour match! I think FOX just got busted.
  • 2 0
 @Jack-McLovin: The struggle is real Smile
  • 6 2
 Anyone notice that the seat clamp and cable stop on the internal cable post are exactly the same as the KS lev integra? Looks to me like there is a chance fox are outsourcing some of the parts, or the whole build of the post to KS who then use some of their off the shelf parts to keep the cost down!
  • 4 1
 I didn't notice at first but you are absolutely right. the bottom of the post on the internal looks identical, seat clamp as well.... interesting
  • 2 0
 The lev integra's clamp is a separate piece from the stancion where as on the fox the upper part is all one piece. Also on the Fox the cable end is at the bottom of the post and not on the lever like most other droppers
  • 1 0
 @johannensc: well spotted, agree on the one piece design. The cable clamp is still the same as the lev though, even with the cable end mounting at the post, is still goes into a barrel that mimics the bolt on version from the lev. I suspect the cable clamp is a standard part from China though, so good call, looks like with this exception its all proprietary gear.
  • 5 2
 What I noticed is that the clamp head looks exactly like a Thomson seatpost. Like, 100% the same. No shame in copying I guess...
  • 3 0
 @seraph: I agree, I thought the same thing......What I do know is my Thompson dropper is one of my finest pieces of equipment I have. I will be buying another when it's time.
  • 4 0
 @seraph: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
  • 3 0
 @seraph: what about when it takes away sales but I guess performance will tell that story...........I will be buying one since my Thomson dropper post has been returned twice for slow return.
  • 1 1
 @seraph: +1 on this, but apparently no one else sees it...
  • 1 0
 @rjwspeedjunkie: You know your stuff!
  • 6 0
 Very nice post at a decent price point. I just wish my old school Cdale Prophet wasn't at 27.2. That is very limiting for posts anymore.
  • 3 2
 27.2 sucks for droppers. Stupid old school seat post diam's.
  • 1 0
 Back when the Prophet was developed those dropper posts weren't much of a deal so 27.2mm made enough sense. After all if a dropper stanchion can be this thin than so can a regular seatpost. It was the most common seatpost diameter out there in a time when there were a million different seatpost diameters out there. So that's at least one area where the number of standards has actually reduced as most frame manufacturers now want their frames to be compatible with the available dropper posts. A shame sometimes as the larger diameter seattubes compromise the ride quality on steel hardtail frames. So now that modern frames don't use 27.2mm seatposts anymore chances are slim that anyone is going to develop a dropper for those. If you're going to stick with the Prophet, your best bet is probably Thomson. You can count on them that they'll be able to provide you with service and parts for years. At least that is what I would expect from that company. I thought KS also had something in that diameter. I also have a Prophet and run it with a fixed seatpost (usually low but I use a qr clamp). My DMR steel hardtail has a 26.8mm seatpost, no way I'm ever going to find a dropper for that one Wink .
  • 5 1
 So Wyn Masters was correct: Fox DOES have a Dump Valve.

I'm probably getting a black one because I don't live in SoCal and the pressure to conform to wannabe Factory spec is not that great.

Of course, if I had a Kashima fork - 'nother story, breh!!!!
  • 4 0
 Looks amazing and the design just makes sense - finally a proper lever that isn't a pressurized syringe! Richie Rude and many of the EWS racers seem to be pleased with it, can't wait to make this upgrade!
  • 7 0
 TAKE MY MONEY LORD KASHIMA
  • 4 0
 So theoretically, if you had an old shifter laying around you could replace the cable bushing with a screw and nut (or similar) clamped on the end of the cable and spare yourself the cost of the remote... theoretically.
  • 4 0
 Great prices for both.. I've been yearning for a cable actuated post after years of reverbs. Love this lever, the more shifter-like the better IMO
  • 9 2
 looks like a session
  • 5 0
 Anyone know the overall lengths and min/max insertion levels? I've looked everywhere, and can't find them.
  • 14 4
 Ask your mother.
  • 1 0
 They have a drawing for the DOSS post here, I'm hoping the Transfer will make its way to this page soon: www.ridefox.com/help.php?m=bike&listall=specsheets
  • 2 0
 They just updated their spec sheets today. It should be on there now.
  • 8 4
 As long as it works better than a Reverb, Fox will do just fine. Oh, and without testing it. We already know it works better...
  • 12 5
 You have had duffs as I have two reverbs, one is 4 years old and they are flawless. I dont know anyone that has had a problem with a reverb.
  • 4 0
 Was thinking the same thing. Mine is 4 years old and gets about 6 rides a week during the summer. It is a bit slower now but given the abuse it's taken... a solid post. This offering from Fox looks excellent and I'm always happy to see products pushing for improvements and keeping the price competitive.
  • 7 1
 @ilovedust: wait your joking right ha?

ive had three and only one was a pain in the dick to be fair.
  • 8 3
 @ilovedust: I literally can't think of one of my riding buddies who has a reverb who hasn't had it fail on them. Sounds like you've either been very lucky, you weigh 8 stone, or they're making the posts that they send to the UK better quality than the ones they sell here in Canada!
  • 4 1
 Nearly 3 years on with a 2nd gen Reverb and no problems at all on my end.
  • 5 2
 @ilovedust: Apparently you don't know very many people.
  • 7 3
 @ilovedust: Working at a bike shop we stopped touching Reverbs. They are a pain in the ass. We always send them to Rockshoxs. I dont know what kind of magic crap you have done to your dropper. But youre lucky. If my bike gets specced with a Reverb, I make an add before I even have the bike...
  • 1 0
 @chillrider199: Reverbs are relatively simple once you understand what's going inside and which seals are "the weak links." You also need a pair of quality soft jaws and some ingenuity to get away without using special tools. The bushings aren't great either, but hopefully that's been fixed with the increased overlap of the MY2016. My biggest issue with the Reverb is the remote; it just requires too much force to actuate, especially when used by smaller hands like that of many women/groms. If the Reverb had a cable actuation like the Fox it'd be a major improvement, even if you had to replace the seals every couple of seasons.
  • 2 2
 @PHeller: true, what got me in the review was the actuation.

The Fox is slightly lighter than the Reverb.. cool but its like 50gr anyway.

The Fox is cheaper than the Reverb.. very cool though it's not a huge difference once you factor in the extra remote, which the reviewer wasn't very upfront about imo (mentions it after saying how cheap the Fox is..)

BUT - if the lever feel is much better than the Reverb, it means a lot while on the trail, as my main Reverb gripe is that you have to commit in advance to putting the seat down or up, which takes a precious second, and if you don't time that right you're in troubles while descending.
  • 1 0
 @ilovedust: My first Reverb died within 5 months, hoping this warranty replacement lasts longer...Luckiest guy ever.
  • 7 0
 @bankz: I did mention it three times throughout the review. I'll bold it and make the font size 80px next time Wink
  • 2 0
 Coming up on 2 years on my current Reverb. I weigh 155 pounds. It drops like 2 mm sometimes when I sit on it, and gets slow in the cold, but still works just fine. I'm patiently waiting for it to fail...
  • 3 0
 What is the service interval? If I have to pay 150$ once a year and have to wait 2 weeks to get my dropper serviced the price difference between this one and any other option isn't in favor of the transfer....
  • 2 0
 I would be glad if somebody actually did something new in this field... There are like ten dropper posts with 125 to 150mm of travel, something over 500 grams and the same working principle. Couldn't there be more variety? Longer, lighter, shorter, whatever?
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy I've got a modded XTR shifter I use for my KS Lev, which has just crapped the bed for the 3rd time. The bottom of the new Fox Transfer looks just like the bottom of a Lev as others mentioned. Think it's possible to use the KS barrel that tightens against the cable end on this new Fox? That way the proper cable end can be in the shfter and the Fox would be set up just like a Lev would be?
  • 5 0
 I should add, a 2mm set screw doesn't belong anywhere on a mountain bike....
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy Hello,

Can you help? I've been running this post 150mm kashima 31.6 model for about 5 months now,It's been great, But can you tell me if Fox will bring an updated service kit out to get rid of the side to side wobble, I hear they all do it, or is it something i'm going to have to live with?

Many thanks
  • 1 0
 My Fox transfer Performance post (the black one/not kashima) failed after 3 weeks on my brand new Yeti5.5. Oil leaked all the way out through the seat tube and down into infinity link suspension and bottom bracket. LBS just called me saying they are still waiting to hear back from Fox. LBS boxed it up and shipped it about 15-20 days ago and still nothing from Fox. Even before this failure, I was getting a lot of squeaky noise coming out of the level. Needless to say, I am NOT happy with this post, and would not recommend it to anyone. Worked fine at first... but reliability issues seem to be a problem, hence PB's "Reliability is the only question mark" comment.
  • 1 0
 ok, well.... 6 weeks later annnnd, exact same failure happened after a full rebuild. Do not buy this dropper post.
  • 1 0
 @EEEskwa: I have the same bike (2018 Yeti SB5.5) and my transfer just failed the same way, oil leak.

Fox says send them the dropper. Not impressed... my old KS Lev was solid for 3+ years with no issues.
  • 1 0
 Did the oil leak cause any issues with your infinity link or BB? Appreciate any info since I'm going through the same ordeal.
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy I currently have a 3-way fox remote lever for my shock mounted on the left side, I would like to put this remote next to it. Do you think this would work? Have you tested it with the remote shock lever?

Here it is (I don't have a shifter, running 1x11) cdn.mos.bikeradar.imdserve.com/images/news/2013/07/09/1373343569683-mpds5xtv01ft-960-540.jpg
  • 1 0
 @Rasterman - I have not paired a Transfer remote up next to a CTD remote, but I think the 1X version would work well. It would likely work best mounted inboard of the CTD remote.
  • 2 0
 @mikelevy: while we're talking remotes, what is the weight of the Fox remote (incl. housing & cable) that you used for this setup?
I honestly find it puzzling why the industry bothers talking about post-only dropper weights since there is next to zero cross-compatibility in remotes.
  • 1 0
 Is there a similarly designed actuation system on a different post that uses opposite cable orientation and a similar size bushing with a setscrew for cable clamping at the post end? If so, and if it fits this post, that may be a simple and cheap solution for the shifter hack.
  • 1 0
 The Spec Command Post has a little bolt on cable end at the post end of the cable that may facilitate the use of other levers (including repurposed shifters) with this sweet looking Fox post.

media.specialized.com/support/0000048567/0000048567.pdf
  • 2 2
 I wonder if it'll survive my chunky 100kilo ass? I've gone through numerous posts now that don't take the punishment of guys that are taller than 6ft 3, and have a bone structure and ass that weighs more than the whippets you see on the XC circuit...

So far destroyed a Specialised Command post, 2 thompson elite and KS LEV

Maybe this'll do the job?
  • 1 2
 It has nothing to do with height but rather mass and even most importantly how often the post is maintained. Two riders can each weigh 100 kg and can have a 60 cm difference in height. Treat your dropper like poo and it will perform like poo.
  • 1 0
 The fact that is has a pressure release valve may help to protect the internals if it overloaded. Seems promising at least.
  • 1 0
 I have a reverb stealth in combo with Sram Guide RS brakes, which has an integrated left brake lever and dropper button. Albeit harder to push than a gigantic lever, it is much cleaner looking.
  • 1 1
 @mikelevy I'm curious where I can find all the long term reviews. When I search I only ever see the first look or short term reviews that say there will be a long term down the road, but I can never find them?

Not bashing at all, just wondering if you guys forget cuz you get to try out so many slick new products? And if that is the case, maybe you need a long term reviewer that can ride a product for an entire year and give an opinion? Like me?? Haha
  • 3 0
 Fox only sent out a handful of production seat posts for testing about a month ago, so no one has had a Transfer for long enough to say that their review is long-term. That's why I'll do a follow-up review down the road (possibly another dropper comparison article with all of the new options), maybe after a year or so of use.
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: I'm not meaning the transfer review specifically, just long term follow up reviews in general
  • 1 0
 @redridesrule: www.pinkbike.com/news/dropper-post-test-review-six-2015.html

That comparison review is based on anything from a year to many years on those seat posts.
  • 1 1
 No 175 or higher for us tall dudes? Ah well, can't have it all. Glad performance and reliability are getting better with dropper posts. I've had my 150mm KS Lev in for just over a year and zero issues thus far. But I'd give this a look ofemine failed.
  • 4 3
 Will this be servicable at the LBS? I really liked my DOSS until it developed a rattle and I was told I had to send it back to fox for $125 servicing. In the bin it went and in came a reverb.
  • 1 0
 I pro-level shop that has the correct tools can service the Transfer, but the job does look involved. I can see most shops sending it out for repair.
  • 1 0
 I hate the feel of a cable remote, one of the reasons I got rid of my Lev. But for the price, this seems like a reasonably priced dropper which is damn shocking from Fox. There has to be a catch!
  • 2 0
 Wow that is actually a really reasonable price compared a lot of the other options out there. And it's kashima!
  • 2 0
 Is the lever available as a spare part? I'd love to get one of those for my Giant dropper post.
  • 4 0
 The lever has to be purchased separately, so I'm sure you could buy one without having to buy the post itself.
  • 2 0
 Take a look at the Specialized SRL: cheaper, nicer(IMO) & matchmaker compatible.
  • 1 0
 @groghunter: I can't I'm afraid. The giant one has the cable end at the bottom at the post so the lever clamps onto the cable,unlike the specialized (I think). I think the raceface lever and the fox lever clamp on the cable.
  • 1 0
 @ddfc: Sadly, you are correct. Specialized clamps at post.

I believe the Raceface does the same thing, though. This fox lever may be your only option.
  • 1 0
 i've been told the KS Southpaw remote works with the giant dropper as well
  • 2 0
 Looks awesome! AND its cheaper than my KS LEV? You sure this is a genuine Fox product?
  • 1 0
 Has your LEV given you any issues? I'm in the market and I was looking at the LEV-Ti. I'm still leaning toward that one considering the Fox Transfer doesn't look very easy to service by the user...
  • 2 0
 @crazyXCsquirrel: I had a externally routed 125mm LEV on my old bike and it never gave me issues over the 2 years I owned it. My new bike came with a 150mm LEV Integra and it's given me nothing but problems. Waiting on it to come back from KS now. I'm keeping my fingers crossed it will be solid when I get it back but I'm not overly hopeful based on what I've heard from other owners. Personally I would stay away.
  • 1 0
 @crazyXCsquirrel: Sometimes when its been in one position too long it takes a bit of a tap to get it to actuate. But so does every other dropper out right now. After that it actuates flawlessly. And I have never rebuilt one myself but my old man says they are a piece of cake. Me, my wife, and my dad all run one and we all love it, my mom runs a reverb and it always gets stuck.
  • 1 0
 @crazyXCsquirrel: I also have the Ti
  • 1 0
 @Locotiki: Odd. We've never had an issue with our 3, and one of them is a couple seasons old. Maybe you got a lemon?
  • 2 0
 @crazyXCsquirrel: I tried 2 different 2016 LEV at the LBS (testing bikes) and both were so sticky i though they were broken.. that kind of put me off LEV, though people say it gets better with time.
I basically had to get off the bike and hit the saddle with a quick and strong fist hit for it to go up or down. Doh.
  • 1 0
 @bankz: Mine was the same way for like one ride, now its smooth and fast as hell.
  • 2 0
 @MTBCAM: so yeah, so ive been told. though i couldnt experience this since i just had LBS rides on brand new bikes. Might be it really does fix itself quick Smile
  • 3 1
 I'm not sure I'd like to ride with 400 psi of nitrogen under my "privates", though.
  • 3 0
 So when are these things available?
  • 1 0
 Yes when @pinkbike ? I can't wait to get a gold one to match my forks and shock!
  • 5 0
 Right now.
  • 1 0
 That's awesome!
  • 2 0
 @mikelevy
How does this new post compare to the 9point8 that you found to be the best dropper post available?
Thank,
Eric
  • 4 1
 I really, really like the 9point8, and I still have it on a bike that I ride all the time. I like that it's proven to be very reliable and that it employs unique (to dropper posts) internals. Honestly, I'd be happy to have either one, especially if the Transfer is as reliable as the Fall Line. The Fox post's MSRP is decent as well...
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: thank you for the quick response.
  • 1 0
 No problems with my Reverb but if it ever fails, then I'm definitely going to pick up this Fox dropper post...plus it will go nicely with my Fox fork. Big Grin
  • 1 0
 I'm sorry, you lost me at "Both versions cost $65 USD and neither come with the post." Does that mean this thing doesn't even come with the actuation lever?
  • 2 0
 Mine didn't score very well for reliability. It failed after two weeks of use. Wouldn't return more than an inch or two.
  • 1 0
 Same issue, took 1 day for me though
  • 2 0
 Ah it has a nice cable guide supplied rather than my V-brake noodle botch for my Thomson. How I wish Thomson did that
  • 3 0
 I love my DOSS. Thing works every time, which is a big deal for me.
  • 3 1
 Same. I've built a handful of trail and XC bikes over the years that were focused on being relatively lightweight, but then I'd put one of the heaviest dropper seat posts on them all... because it worked all the time.
  • 5 2
 @mikelevy: apart from the lever which every single Fox sponsored Enduro racer replaced with something smaller like front shifter lever, be ause original leaver was so big you could use it to tighten Race Face crankset.
  • 1 0
 I agree. I like this spot on colorful truth: "If you've used the old D.O.S.S. seat post, you probably felt your plums retreat up into your body when you first realized the speed that it returned at and the clang it made at top-out"

The big lever is pretty darn functional (but strong thumb required) but it hangs low so a bit of a top tube danger. It got me on the below bar lever fan club - since the Fox, I've switched all my bikes to that design.
  • 2 0
 You guys can all ship your DOSSes to me. I love that remote compared to the reverb.
  • 2 0
 I like GOOOOLD! (Serious note: This one looks great, Fox did a great job if the durability is decent)
  • 1 0
 Looks mighty like they licensed some of their design from Thompson. That seat post end and clamp design look mighty familiar.
  • 2 0
 Looks like the best post in the business, now please make a 175 or 200mm version and I'm all over it.
  • 3 2
 lol its says to increase the fun in the description... you know how i increase the fun not spending 500 canadian on a seat post
  • 2 0
 is it just me or does spending the extra dough on kashima seem like an even bigger waste of money than usual?
  • 1 1
 Why does this need Kashima? It's not a fork that you need absolute frictionless performance from. Aside from that it looks like a solid product, lose the Kashima option though.
  • 1 1
 I like the fact that seat can move down without me sitting on it. Sounds like the first true advance in dropper post tech in years. Might be my next dropper, especially at a decent price.
  • 1 0
 Wait, what!? Move down without shutting on it? While this would be a great feature, this would require two buttons and a very unique design. Where did you get the impression that this one does that?
  • 1 0
 Great.... I just sold my kidney to pay for the robot bike co r160 now you gotta drop this on me pinkbike? Come on now
  • 3 1
 I had to sit myself down to read this one
  • 3 0
 Good post! I am on the edge of my seat.
  • 3 1
 I've been waiting for this review to drop.
  • 2 1
 This is so tempting my Reverb is garbage...I've already had it replaced once for warranty.
  • 2 0
 That saddle looks like it would end your hopes of producing an heir
  • 2 0
 Anyone know if this post is compatible with the KS LEV southpaw lever?
  • 2 0
 It is not compatible with the Southpaw remote. The cable end is at the bottom of the Transfer, and the cable is clamped at the remote with a small setscrew, which is the opposite setup to many posts out there.
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: Wouldn't it fit to clamp a barrel to the cable? It is common with drum brakes.
  • 2 0
 @vinay: I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to put something together, but the pieces don't work in stock form.
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: Thanks for your response Mike. Agreed it may not be designed as such but if someone really prefers the Southpaw it is nice knowing that it can be made to work. That is, for the version with hidden routing. The one with the external routing doesn't seem to accept the big barrel.
  • 1 0
 I've been waiting a long time for this review to drop. Sorry. Someone had to.
  • 2 0
 More blacked-out Fox products please!
  • 1 0
 looks sweet as !!!!! but ill keep my reverb been getting a new one on wty every 6 months is ok with me
  • 1 0
 Hopefully my D.O.S.S. that's never worked, and is still under warranty, will get replaced with one of these by Fox Big Grin
  • 2 0
 Still want Fox to put out the espresso/cappuccino dropper from Marz.
  • 2 1
 The 1x remote is hideous and looks unfinished. Hopefully that's a prototype version shown.
  • 3 1
 the only thing not listed in metric is the price
  • 2 2
 @Grmasterd, meet the world. World, Grmasterd.
  • 1 2
 @MtbSince84: meet sarcasm, Sarcasm meet MtbSince84
  • 2 1
 My Reverb is acting up. Time to get it serviced and sold so I can get one of these in Kashima!
  • 1 0
 What is the difference between the Kashima and Performance model in terms of operation?
  • 1 0
 It's covered in the review - nothing is different other than the stanchion treatment. They are mechanically the same and weigh the same.
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: Right, but what kind of tangible impact does the stanchion treatment have on operation? Is it smoother? More durable?

I guess I understand how the treatment can have an impact on something moving as frequently as a fork, but the dropper is moved relatively infrequently compared to a fork (a fork may move many times a second, a dropper significantly less). I'm trying to understand what benefits the stanchion treatment has compared to the performance model.
  • 2 1
 Extra money just for kashmiha Razz
  • 2 0
 Not really... it's competitively priced WITH the kashima. That to me is their base point. They're just choosing to offer you one without... at a discount.... nobody else is really offering a quality piece at that price point so it opens up droppers to a new line of people... and stock builds by manufacturers. My guess is that is the main reason they are offering one without... so companies can fit their dropper into the cost of their built bikes.... and not have gold if they're not running gold on other pieces. I'd be curious to see if Pinkbike's review of that one would be different from the kashima one they tested. They should test the base unit as I suspect a lot of people would be considering it.
  • 1 1
 NICE! anyone here comes up with an idea?
- Kashima Coat Brake Rotor?
- Kashima Coat Pump?
  • 2 0
 Also put lube on your crashima rotor to avoid scratching it.
  • 1 0
 Probably be like $600 Canadian. I've never been able to justify the cost.
  • 1 1
 A cable vs. a hydraulic line... I wonder if they'll take my Reverbs as trade ins?
  • 1 0
 anyone can tell me that where is air chamber?
  • 1 0
 You can see it in the exploded diagram in the review. It is at the bottom of the stanchion, but it is nitrogen, not air.
  • 1 0
 the thought of 400 psi under my stones... shudder.
  • 1 0
 Psssss, gravity dropper anyone?
  • 3 4
 The non-kashima version is competitively priced; however, $64 is a ridiculous amount to pay for the remote. It is more than a Shimano XT shifter.
  • 6 1
 Certainly not inexpensive for a small piece of aluminum, but it is well made - it isn't chintzy like those early Command Post or the OEM KS remotes. The remote is expensive on its own, that's for sure, but the post/remote package together is still priced relatively well.
  • 1 0
 But the cable end is at the post so you can't use an old front shifter Frown
  • 3 0
 @mikelevy: In the end I agree the complete package is still a decent price, especially considering most decent posts are in the $400 - $500 range. I'm in the market for a dropper post and this has caught my eye.
  • 2 0
 @mikelevy: any reason a Raceface or Specialized Command remote couldn't work for this? Or the hacked XT iSpec shifter in the parts bin?
  • 1 0
 @ReformedRoadie: The cable end is at the bottom of the seat post and the cable itself is clamped at the Fox remote with the small setscrew, which is the opposite of most of seat posts.
  • 8 4
 @mikelevy:

"Certainly not inexpensive for a small piece of aluminum, but it is well made - it isn't chintzy like those early Command Post or the OEM KS remotes. The remote is expensive on its own, that's for sure, but the post/remote package together is still priced relatively well."

Whoa, whoa, easy on the comparative reasoning and logic. Remember, you're just a biased writer, who get's paid off by the bike companies. What do you know? Wink
  • 1 1
 At least its not $100 like what SRAM charges for their terrible button which isnt even reversible, costs as much as an XT brake. Considering the popularity of dropper posts at their current prices Im not expecting the price gouging to go away any time soon.
  • 2 0
 @mikelevy: the swiss one would work plus it is the best kind auf lever anyway:
yepcomponents.com/product/remote-assembly
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: Finally it took Fox to come up with a replacement for my crappy GD remote !
  • 4 0
 @mikelevy: but the cable bushing that the cable ending sit in look like a normal knarps with grub screw like the one spezialized and others use. If available cable endings dont work it surely would be easy enough to make one that fits and use whatever remote or shifter you want to.

On that note, shimano should release remote versions of their shifters and just put an end to these overpriced funky looking levers and save us front shifter modding time.
  • 2 0
 @jfkusa: looking at how similar the internal actuation mechanism is to other internal posts, you could probably fit the barrel with grub screw to this fox post and run a hacked front shifter to save yourself $$$$
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 @mikelevy: Help me understand the difference between the two remotes offered?
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 @Longtravel

1X remote with lever that sits where a front shifter would, thereby making it not compatible with riders who have a front derailleur: www.pinkbike.com/photo/13535114

2X/3X remote that sits up against the grip and doesn't get in the way of a front shifter's paddles: www.pinkbike.com/photo/13541101
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 Just an FYI, 9 point 8 pricing went up several months ago to $400USD.
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 I'm shocked at the price!
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 That Tioga waffle maker is showing up on lots of post reviews!
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 Now what is the difference between the two levers?
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 how is the high speed compression? can it be shimmed?
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 Cash me out coating
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 Fed up with Kashima. Really. It's getting boring.
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 Oh look, we've just invented the wheel. What? Someone already did?
  • 3 2
 Looks a lot like KS
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 Any word on cold weather performance (i.e. -10 celsius)?
  • 2 1
 Sorry, it's been pretty warm here while I've been using it.
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 Kashima won't save you now. Here comes Reverb 4.0.
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 #nomorereverbdrama
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 I predict FOX will have black stanchions for their suspension in the future... the TRANSFER in black is a dead giveaway!
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 @mikelevy: well how about that, the future already happened in April.
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 @mikelevy: Totally awesome, but we might be another model year away from the black/stealth graphics offerings coming with the RC2 dampers, top end shocks, or as an offering in the step cast 32 Fit forks. Still do-able, especially if an OEM buyer wanted exactly that, but the murdered out bike has been admittedly overplayed here of late.
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 @mikelevy: Back to the Future
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