While I really enjoy seeing top tier riders shredding my local digs, it does piss me off that there a number of corporate entities (gamut here, and countless others) that sometimes disservice the local scene by publicizing location of otherwise illegal trails.
Trail access in the bay area, even in a progressive and forward-thinking county like Santa Cruz, is a challenge to the local scene. I know that Santa Cruz sponsors dig days at both Demo and Wilder Ranch (both legal spots), which is awesome, and I commend them for that both with words and with my wallet (I ride a nomad). It would be great to see other corporate entities step up to the plate and give back to the terrain they reap clicks from.
A lot of companies have and are contributing to the Santa Cruz scene. Hopefully it continues to grow. But more important than corporate money is actual local riders ACTUALLY doing something to help. Showing up to meetings town halls, voting, etc. That's where the changes are going to happen.
I'm pretty sure EVERY santa cruz based mtb company is kicking down dough and/or doing dig days.
Well I didn't know it was an illegal trail until you said anything. I'm guessing the people at Gamut didn't either. For someone who's never ridden it, how am I, or anybody else that's never ridden it, supposed to know it's an illegal trail? Could've be on someones private property for all I know.
Duh, isn't every trail on public land that looks like this one in the Santa Cruz area "illegal" in the sense of not authorized and therefore in violation of a "stay on authorized trails" rule? It seems rough to bash Gamut for this, or for being a "corporate entity"; they are a very small company, a few bike nut engineers basically.
My main comments on the video -- I can't get comfortable with this level of steeps and the deep-powder-style braking technique required to control speed. Probably never will. It looks cool though. And hard to tell from the video what Gamut is selling (chain guides? pedals?).
@jfloren: Indeed I do not mean to bash Gamut specifically, I could have done a better job wording that post for sure. I also didn't expect this comment to be prevalent (near the top) of the comments section. With the current climate of trail access in our area though I can't help but express discontent. I know Gamut is small and in no way do I expect them to spearhead advocacy.
As @onemanarmy pointed out, the onus is on us, the mtb community, to drive for change. That being said, money talks. Just ask the handful of horseback riding rich folks that have widespread access to singletrack that we have built. Bike companies bring jobs, tourism, etc -- read: money, to the table. I'm not asking for a check from them but a loud voice, would be more than enough.
was that a trail? looked like my grandma had hoed weeds between poison oak and some redwoods and homie decided to ride it. just 'cause you could, doesn't mean you should, and it doesn't mean it's good. let's see a braille/sawpit run!
@grantlacey: If you could go ahead and name all of the trails he is riding and the builders and provide maps too that would be great! Publicity and naming stuff makes it tough for the folks trying to expand access...but hey, you get two brownie points for knowing a tiny bit of something...illegal trails are just that.
@Barelam21: What negative comes from the expressing the reality of it? We don't deserve unlimited access because we want it. Plus, everyone who rides it, knows there could be some form of LE waiting at the bottom of hw9. Demo forest is just around the corner.
@grantlacey Supplementing Strava (who makes $ of our data), media plays a big role in influencing how land managers, LE etc. make decisions - the data in the form of this stuff is powerful and important to note. As @Photosyn stated we need to play according to the rules and if so we have a chance at expanded access. Please be respectful and refrain from jeopardizing near future plans to expand riding options in SC county.
@nicolai12: Pretty sure that legally it can not be filmed. You're required to get permission to film and I guarantee you they did not get permission to film there.
If what I am reading in above comments about this being an illegal trail (details above) is true, then I hope PInkbike and Gamut will reconsider their position for creating and sharing this video, and others like it. Otherwise it implies endorsement of illegal trail building by our very own institution. If we continue to share these types of videos (and location/access details) to the general public we will loose battles for trail access.
Oh, and by the way - I really liked the video. :-)
You're saying they should've picked a different trail from the huge selection of legal trails we have in Santa Cruz? Also I don't see how you could figure out this trails location/access details from watching this.
Looks like a bit of an amateur production, but hey you gotta start somewhere. Regardless, I'm definitely loving the riding and the trail! Place looks sick!
Yeah. I hate it when they skip the slo-mo shots of unloading bikes from racks and strapping on goggles and just go straight to pure ripping with only the soundtrack of tires shredding dirt. That's the worst.
Trail access in the bay area, even in a progressive and forward-thinking county like Santa Cruz, is a challenge to the local scene. I know that Santa Cruz sponsors dig days at both Demo and Wilder Ranch (both legal spots), which is awesome, and I commend them for that both with words and with my wallet (I ride a nomad). It would be great to see other corporate entities step up to the plate and give back to the terrain they reap clicks from.
I'm pretty sure EVERY santa cruz based mtb company is kicking down dough and/or doing dig days.
My main comments on the video -- I can't get comfortable with this level of steeps and the deep-powder-style braking technique required to control speed. Probably never will. It looks cool though. And hard to tell from the video what Gamut is selling (chain guides? pedals?).
As @onemanarmy pointed out, the onus is on us, the mtb community, to drive for change. That being said, money talks. Just ask the handful of horseback riding rich folks that have widespread access to singletrack that we have built. Bike companies bring jobs, tourism, etc -- read: money, to the table. I'm not asking for a check from them but a loud voice, would be more than enough.
That was some pure oil good shit????????
just saying.
Oh, and by the way - I really liked the video. :-)