Guerilla Gravity Showroom Stripped of Bikes After HQ Break In

 Maybe another company thats jealous? GG has been shipping bikes the whole time. They are actually shipping them faster than ever. Wait times are down to 3-4 weeks i think?

 new technology: INVISIBLE BIKES

 Someone who understands the gravity of the situation right there

 @stubs179: that's what my buddy thought when he ordered his Gnarvana 4 months ago... I think he ended up waiting 12 weeks; granted it was advertised as an 8 week wait because of a specific shock he selected. Still about a month longer than advertised; not bad given the current market but not 3-4 weeks either...

 @dresendsit: I ordered a GG with an advertised lead time of 4-6 weeks. It just shipped a couple days ago, 4 weeks and 1 day after I ordered it.

 mate....you deserve a medal for this comment!

 @RedBurn: flying carpets will take over

 @usedbikestuff: Sounds like when the thieves smashed their way in, GG didn't have their pistol in hand.

 Imagine this was just an elaborate scam for free advertising

 @usedbikestuff: seems like a guerilla marketing tactic to me

 @William42: if they only posted it up on the anti-social media sites it means they understand as much about security as they do effective marketing. Many people aren’t on there any more than many people don’t play nice. Many people still fall for the big lie though.
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 air tags would help

 @donthaveadropper: I was thinking the same thing. I'd like to hide one in my frame.

 @donthaveadropper: Why airtags if you have "find my appledevice" turned on on the ipad? It likely would reside at the same location as the bikes, at least for a little while after the theft?

 @donthaveadropper: Air tags would let the thief know there is an airtag on the bike if the thief has an iphone

 @megatryn: If it is on and if it is a cellular device. Otherwise it likely won't be located.

 @Artjr: I read an account from someone who had his bike stolen. He tried putting his AirTag in the frame, but it did not generate a strong enough signal to be trackable, so he had to put it on the outside, and of course it was removed.

 @toooldtodieyoung: AirTags that don’t make contact with their device after three days begin to beep to alert someone that an AirTag might be used to follow them. I know because i had one attached to my dog and left for work for a week. Day three he started buzzing and making chimes per my wife who was being driven crazy by it. Since they register to the specific device it wasn’t shared on our ihome cloud account. You can track it but not for long.

 @toooldtodieyoung: Also carbon frames mess with the signals.

 @usedbikestuff: that's why all the smart bikers are taking speakers out of them.

 yes and also theives dont sell via pinkbike, they sell via craigslist, offerup, and facebook marketplace

 @tkrug: not entirely true. It can be tracked on wifi if turned on to an extent.

 @islander: While even smarter bikers realize that the AirTag will still send notifications to any nearby iPhone (including the thief's) even with the speaker removed.

 @AC-Fabz: How would a non-metallic enclosure meaningfully change the bluetooth signal coming from the AirTag?

 I answered my own question. Apparently Carbon Fiber is just conductive enough to insulate RF. Wouldn't have guessed! Thanks for the education today, Pinkbike.

 @mick06: only you can find it i think correct me if im wrong

 @donthaveadropper: I have AirTags in my carbon frames I get pings from other phones in the parking lot at work confirming it’s location, so the carbon doesn’t really interfere at all with the signal. If it starts chirping or notifies the thief they are being tracked, they are on FindMy network and will probably ditch the bike before they get caught. Hopefully if they are taking it to be sell it, the buyer may have an iPhone on FindMy and that would ping the network.

 This has all the makings of a Goosebumps choose your own adventure. I’m going to pick 1 but keep my finger on this page so I can flip back if I don’t like how it goes.

 4.

 I have seen people buy an obviously "warm to the touch" bike for like $50 and then post about it on local Facebook groups, etc. trying to find its owner. That way it at least has a path back to the owner.

 @lightsgetdimmer: it’s more like most of us choose not to be scum bags and instead do the right thing.

 @extratalldirtrider: so hard to get sarcasm across on the internet.

 @stumphumper92: I’m still winning with less downvotes!

 I remember that back in the day, Marin bikes used to have bikes at display in trade shows, with Aluminium frames that were not heat treated. In which case one can only hope the thieves will ride the bikes themselves.

So, even with moral obligations aside, I would not really recommend to buy a frame of unknown origin…

 @whambat:
Indeed it is!

 When there were no trees in the area for a traditional hanging, they used to tie a noose around the thief's neck and attach to a horse, then tie his ankles to another horse, to get the job done. This was known a a Mexican hanging. Substitute the horses for some e-bikes in these modern times, set them to turbo and PEDAL

 I guess that’s all about perspective. Kind of seems like it has been a shit hole for a long time. (Small pockets of excellence excluded).

 City?!? Turning?!!?! Colorado as a whole went to shit at least 10 years ago. Yet somehow everyone and their brother is still moving here and still raving about how amazing it is. I don't get it.

 @provin1327: @initforthedonuts you both are probably more accurate. I am probably being more optimistic by say its now turning into a shit hole. Just last night there was a structure fire close to where i live so i turned on the EMS/Fire scanner - I know kinda nerdy... and while that was going on there was call after call for OD, gunshot/stabbings, and car accidents. its f*cking wild, really sad actually

 @lm101020: you should’ve been there in the ‘80s

 @DHhack: Was it the same? I was Born in 87

 @lm101020: much worse. It was the days of drive-by shootings and Molotov cocktails. Rumor was the Rockies chose purple to avoid the crips vs bloods thing, although every banger back then was in CR gear anyways.

 @provin1327: Shitty mid-westerners and tons of Bostonites/ Downstate NY dipshits who know nothing but shit and bring their shitty attitudes with them. Shitstorm's a brewin, Bo-bandy.

 @DHhack: This guy Denvers

 @provin1327: @provin1327: there are plenty of parts of Colorado that have not turned to shit... but Denver is certainly the shit epicenter.

 Denver’s had its big city problems for decades, the thing is it was hidden in the neighborhoods no one went into, including the ones near GG’s shop. With the sketchy neighborhoods gentrifying, you now have the juxtaposition of wealth and poverty along with the homeless, who used to hide out in the warehouse industrial area that are now places like RINO, out in plain site. Even LODO in the 80’s/ early 90’s was not an area you wanted to be when the sun went down. After the Summer of Violence in 1993, the media stoped reporting on gang violence because they found it just encouraged the gangs into more violence as they thrived on the tv coverage. However, the gang activity never stopped, you just didn’t hear about it anymore. Homelessness has spiked since 2009 as not everyone who moved to the area is a software engineer and the influx of people have driven up rent rates so high that many working poor ended up on the street.
Just my observation over a few decades and I was happy to leave Denver as it got so crowded.

 @whambat: That is interesting. Ive heard similar stories from people who have been here longer than i have. I think Denver will turn into an LA / SF before to long. Ill be getting out of here soon.

 @lm101020: on the positive, Denver treats you well financially when you own real estate.

 PSA Apple AirTags will NOT WORK for bike theft, because of the "anti-stalking" feature. After 3 days the AirTag will alert the thief (if they have an iPhone) that an unknown AirTag has been traveling with them. I went with Tile because of this stupid decision by Apple and it works really well pinging off of Tile app users + Amazon Alexa/Echo/Ring devices. Tile Pros mounted under the saddle of every bike I own.

 @TheOriginalTwoTone: Can someone translate this to English?

 @Rokcore:

Bluetooth LE trackers. Both get location data from nearby stuff, like iPhones and Alexa’s, but the apple one chirps after 3 days, letting you, in this case a bike thief, know that the tag is there with them. The tile doesn’t do this.

 @TheOriginalTwoTone: it’s too early to be this drunk.

 @chrismac: Haha, I think he needed Ranty McRantface's stance translated, but you were still helpful.

 @TheOriginalTwoTone: After further readings I finally figured out what the hell you were trying to say.

So to sum it up you don't believe in emotional/physical neglect and think a prison system should focus on punishment instead of rehabilitation. Let me guess, late 30s or early 40s white dude who believes you had a shitty childhood and everyone else needs to "man up" repressing years of trauma like you did. Got it.

 They are just going to have to lock up the bikes inside the store or secure the front of the store and all access doors with security screen/shutters or bars. It would greatly help prevent burglars from stealing.

 @piratetrails: Thanks for the heads up on where to look for tiles/airtags on the next bike I lift. lol

In all seriousness, we're getting to an age where any bike thief who knows what they're doing is probably looking for these things. On a lot of carbon bikes, you can actually get inside the top tube/down tube from inside the head tube. You could pull the fork out and stick one in there where no thief would find it, even if it did chirp at them. Just make sure it's secure or you're gonna have a hell of a rattle.

 @Rokcore:let me guess, living somewhere like Portland or San Fran and loving it.

 @TheOriginalTwoTone: Nope. Thankfully I stopped eating avocado toast and started walking uphill in the snow both ways. If only I knew what good wages and fair housing prices falling into my lap felt like. Good thing we have the old timers to reminisce for us....you know, that, plus the "thugs" knew better than to inconvenience you with their existence

 @Rokcore: Ok so what do you think they should do with people that have rap sheet a page or more long?
Serious question since you're loving poking fun at me for thinking you shouldn't keep letting them out.
You have any stats for cities where the catch and release methodology is working well?

 @TheOriginalTwoTone: Norway. The rest of the world, as with most things, has already figured this stuff out. Our prisons only create repeat offenders and it doesn't help that once you're basically screwed out of most jobs once you're a felon

 @reindeln: Inside the frame, inside a plastic baggie in bubble wrap and taped up. Won’t rattle.

 @Rokcore: LOL I knew you'd go that direction- completely different culture, what works there isn't going to work here. Using a country that has a total pop that's less than NYC.
When was the last time a kid killed another over some shoes or a jacket in Norway.
I know it's hard to accept, but some humans are just pieces of shit and nothing is going to change them.

 @Rokcore: Damn this old white dude learning tricks from ye youngsters. Got it! Everything can be traced to emotional/physical neglect and voila! no longer is anything my fault and instant justification doing whateverTF I want no matter how negatively it affects others.

 @Rokcore: it's rather difficult to decipher what you've written, as well.

 @Rokcore: Norway?
Their approach works because it's full of Norwegians, and they can maintain a socialised system.
Your criticism of the U.S. system is accurate, but don't confuse that with having the cure.

 @TheOriginalTwoTone: how is it any different? They deal with murderers, drug dealers, etc. just like we do. Their repeat offender rate dropped drastically and the only argument anyone ever brings up is "it's different". I guess some people prefer to live in their bubbles refusing to change anything.

 @sonuvagun: so your criticism boils down to being born in a different country?

 @Durtwrx: f*ck off with your play ground insults and hating gay people. Grow up

 @Rokcore: No. It boils down to being born in a different culture, with different demographics, and a vastly different geography.
Semantically, you could attempt to equate that with just "a different country," but it's not that simple at all. For example, I would argue Swedes and Fins could imitate Norwegian social policies relatively easily, despite one of them being a completely different language group.
But you should know the complexities that make Norway different than the U.S.A. cannot be packaged up in just saying they're different countries.

 @Rokcore: How's the no cash bail experiment working?
I really don't think you've been following what's been going on too closely.
Go look at any of those Nordic countries people like to compare us to and see if you can figure it out.
I'll give a hint, even though I'll get called all kinds of names for what comes next - Homogeneous populations.
When did crime start to increase in those countries?
When a ton of immigrants were forced on them and those immigrants didn't want to assimilate.
It's nice to sit back and put on those rainbow glasses, but you need to take them off and join the real world.

 @sonuvagun: I think it comes down to an uneducated population. I also think saying things are complicated is a cop-out for not trying something different. It's like saying I'm no good at jumps so I'll never try, will never take any steps to improve and that's just how I ride. (The prison system is bad/complicated so let's just not waste time fixing it or doing anything different). One political party is actively undermining public education and I'll go as far as saying with the past election saying they've officially succeeded. Can't change anything when you present solutions only to have people shove their head in the sand when looking at the results

 @TheOriginalTwoTone: "didn't want to assimilate" that's either a nice way of saying they didn't want to become good white Christians or saying they were alienated by racism. Segregation laws literally made it a crime for assimilation into our country. Join the real world and learn some history. Our government fabricates criminals, puts a label to them and spoon feeds it to you. Not enough criminals? Make new laws and keep filling those prisons up. Bonus political points because now you can say "we're cleaning up our streets". Jim Crowe laws, Prohibition, War on Drugs, and now the Immigration Crisis. You know what none of those laws actually address? The underlying issue to the problem. Black people are still black, alcoholics are still alcoholics, drug users still use drugs, and immigrants still find a way to immigrate. They've created scapegoats for you.

Easy to sit back licking boots instead of trying to solve anything or even questioning your own reality.

 To be very clear. Being black is not a problem but unfortunately they're still Old white people I've met who openly use the N word because they see your skin color as a problem

 @Rokcore: Wow you really are clueless, assimilate means try and learn the fin language so you can get a job and function. Learn the customs, you know, like a women in a short skirt isn't asking to be rapped.

What do you think we should do with this one, put her on a couch and ask her if her mommy was mean?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5JrD9G1Z1s

 @Rokcore: I'll add, I'm first gen, mom immigrated here, didn't expect everyone to speak Portuguese to her.
She learned the language and worked 2 jobs to support me. We didn't have a lot of money, but she never used it as an excuse and taught me not to be a piece of shit.

 @TheOriginalTwoTone: soundin real similar to the Great Replacement wackos there, bud.

 @Rokcore: Where did I endorse "not trying something different?"

If you think fighting crime through improving education can work then that has more merit to it.

The number of cowards and people unable to think critically has reached critical mass. So good luck.

 @ryd-or-die: How so? Got an actual counter point.

 @Rokcore: How about these guys?
Not enough hugs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShioO4p6kYo

 @Rokcore: And there are black youths willing to attack anyone white in the right environment.
Yet it is consistently ignored and marginalised by "your" media.
And it's not because you know a few old white folks who say a word you're afraid to write.
Absent fathers+state dependency+lack of value for education+lack of accountability+ lowered expectations from people like you = a cancer which is spreading.

 @TheOriginalTwoTone: my point is you're sounding like a wacko talking bout "homogenous populations". That is my counterpoint. Anytime a solution is proposed to a problem with the logical underpinnings of "great replacement" bullshit (read: perpetually scared white people who's only culture is fear and smug guffaws at the Poors), you can bet it's not a real solution.

 @TheOriginalTwoTone: Wait...what the hell? I'm asking you because you seem tohave a grasp of reality.
But, I'd wager the thieves in this instance are 100% not black so why the heck are we talking about them?

 @sonuvagun: I'm not afraid to write a word. It's out of respect for an entire race that was treated like property for 200 years in our country. Everything you've written is a direct result of poverty and it all traces back to slavery. Refusing to acknowledge how much white people, either directly or indirectly, have benefited from that system is just plain denial. I'm not talking surface level deep either. There's so many things you don't even realize causing this to be a continued issue and it gets swept under the rug calling minorities lazy. How do you get out of poverty when you can't afford anything and an entire system is stacked against you? How do you move out of a crime ridden neighborhood if you can't afford a home? HOAs were built around keeping minorities out and good luck finding an affordable home without an HOA. How do you get a good education when a political party keeps cutting funding and tailoring the curriculum to appease their political base? Are you afraid to admit that you aren't successful because of hard work but because you were born with advantages you don't even care to notice/question? I guess it's easier to call them criminals and be apathetic about the whole thing. f*ck you, got mine mentality is strong here

 @TheOriginalTwoTone: did you even look at what they are stealing. I'm sure those hardened criminals stealing laundry detergent and paper towels are a huge threat to your lives

Don't know the other chick's story. Mental health issues or past encounters with the Kia driver? Ever encountered someone with severe bipolar disorder? If we're going to bring up random shit I know plenty of white guys who get out of their car to fight other drivers in road rage in incidents. Just as stupid but I bet you don't you feel the same way about that

 @Rokcore: Who the hell is calling minorities lazy? Do you really think there are these pockets of "white supremacy" just keeping minorities down by calling them lazy and somehow orienting society against them? It's become a practical trope at this point. The truth is, people like you want to imagine minorities as being weak.

The people who were in a position to profit off slavery were the financial elite, not the average person. Yes, the financial elite in the u.s. have historically been almost exclusively white, but why are you trying to put all white people on trial for that? The average citizen, regardless of their skin colour has always been at the mercy of the economic elite and have to play by whatever rules they are told to and mostly that is just trying to do the right thing and get by.

If you educate yourself more on the matter, you will learn that the economic and social policies which have led to such a disproportionate reliance on social welfare and such a disproportionate representation of violent crime were born in the mid 20th century. Up until the 50's the black working class family unit did as well, if not better than the white working class unit, and most of America at that time was working class. That clearly shows slavery, while an unforgiveable crime, did not leave the mark you've been led to believe.

Cutting funding and tailoring the curriculum? Talk about a cliche. When it comes to those most likely to be criminals, the data is clear: low income + single parent * dependency on the system = hello incarceration.

You refuse to hold any criminal accountable for their actions unless that criminal is white, otherwise, it's excuses and reduced expectations.

 @sonuvagun: you're heavily implying minorities by saying absent fathers because it's constantly a right wing stereotype.

I don't have any idea where you get the idea that the black family unit ever did better than the white family. In relative gains sure but that does not equate to being better overall. For example sake, you can say black families earned 300% more in 10 years which is easy to say if they got paid $1/hr one year and 10 years later made $4/hr. That same period a white family may have made $10/hr and rose to $13 so you can say they ONLY made 30% more but still benefited the same amount. I'm assuming that's what you're referring to because the black community has never made more or benefited more. That doesn't even address the inequality in accessing the same resources.

I don't care who commits crime. I care that the underlying issues are addressed and that groups aren't unfairly targeted: minorities, homeless, or people with mental illness. Does it not worry you that the FBI has expressed concerns for years that white supremacist ties are an issue in law enforcement? This was a concern even when Bush was president. Are you still not seeing how something like this benefits white people whether they're active participants or not?

Racism still impacts hiring. Both statiscally and anecdotally. White people, who got their positions during periods of heavy discrimination still hold power. They're more likely to hire you if you're white. You can't argue against that without doing some serious mental gymnastics.

I think if you studied how to read statistics and identifying logical fallacies you would learn a lot of the information you research is outright wrong or misleading. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit. You still strike me as someone that's scared to admit you are currently benefiting from racism years ago.

 @Rokcore: Thank god they let this misunderstood young man out.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeaeO3W7fd8

 @Rokcore: well if you read more then you might know these answers. But you're living in fairy-tale land, where team red is a monolithic mass of hate and team blue is a monolithic mass of goodness.
I grew up in a prairie town, in a dodgy area living on welfare. Breakfast? Never knew what that was. Lunch? Had that. Supper? 50/50. Moving up in the world meant getting out of subsidised housing. I lived the shit you're spouting off about. And you're tryin to tell me racism helped me? Your words and ideas amount to intellectual pantywaste.
Eat shit and die in fire.

 @TheOriginalTwoTone: Here's another one, but let's blame everyone but the people committing the crimes: twitter.com/GadSaad/status/1461193931174076419

 @Rokcore: Any advice for this one? Maybe a little counseling and a hug?

MANASSAS, Va. — A 23-year-old woman has been charged with murder for allegedly hitting a 74-year-old man with her car in Manassas, Virginia. The father of four, who was walking home from picking up dinner for his family, died from his injuries.
But it's what Keiry Alvarez Contreras allegedly did after running over Jose Manzares that has really shaken the community.
According to Prince William County Police, Manzanares was walking along the side of the road when Contreras hit him in her car. They say she pulled over in the median, walked over to him and took the cell phone Manzares was using to try and call for help out of his hands and tossed it away.

 @TheOriginalTwoTone: You're fear mongering and proving you live in fear because that's what the news shows you. The difference between most "good" people and a criminal is a bad day. I've been around those people and yes, there is a good chance that addressing the underlying problem either through medication or therapy could address those issues. Does making the punishment more severe solve it? Should we waterboard them? Cut off their fingers? Did you know Veterans with PTSD are more likely to be arrested than those without? Those guys are bad too right? They don't deserve a second chance. I guess hitting an IED and being traumatized means you're on your own. No mental health services because we don't believe in that here. Raped as a kid and repressed that trauma? Guess you're doomed too. Dad beat you growing up? Tough shit. Ignore the trauma. I'm sure every single one of you that have experienced these things are "well" adjusted and are actually one bad day away from being these people.

You people are beyond f*cked up that you'd rather watch everyone suffer than attempt to help. The reasoning always boils down to "my life was shit so you need to have a shitty life too." The only reason any of this is a fairy tale is because you're all terrified that it would invalidate what you suffered through in your crappy lives.

@sonuvagun so you're saying you would have directly benefited from an expanded, better run, better funded welfare program and you still choose your shitty up bringing?

 @Rokcore: My upbringing isn't something I chose, you muppet. And I didn't say anything about it being shitty. It's telling you take the concept of relative poverty and equate it with a shitty upbringing. Psychologically speaking, there's little difference between you and spoiled teenage girl.

No one here is advocating for anyone to have a shit life, but if you just keep giving people unearned opportunities then you will make the problem worse. Exhibit A) The U.S.A.

Once you get done arguing the exception, you'll have to get oriented towards reality: A lot of people become criminals because everyone in their life is a criminal. They have a value system so far-removed from what you identify as civilized that you'd piss yourself if you ever met them in the wild.

The people who ripped off the GG are, regardless of their skin colour (I'm still betting white), a disease. Some people just see everyone as a potential target. Hopefully you run into those types sooner than later.

Keep writing whatever you like, you're too stupid to absorb anything beyond what you already believe.

 @sonuvagun: You're so keen on getting rid of unearned handouts while directly benefiting from subsidized housing. That's a special kind of stupid.

 @Rokcore: To endorse a reduction in government dependency is not the same calling for an end to all social benefits. You thought you made a point, you were wrong.

 crackheads

 Somebody has to steal something I suppose

 @pourquois-pas: nah, we have meth heads here in Denver

 Gotta be able to post all those bikes on the used bike forums

 @funboi-parisi: man, Denver and Calgary are more similar than i thought

 yeah, downtown denver made the NYtimes this morning in a story about rising crime/violence in the US.

 @flipoffthemonkeys: You have a link to that, I'd like to check it out

 @everythingsucks: google "Four Lives Lost in Another American Pandemic: Homicides"

 @mi-bike: Paywall. Thanks anyway

 That's how I feel about my relation to Portland. Sounds like the two cities are on the same path. Get what you vote for and you get it good and hard.

 My dad had his bike stolen in denver, and we were just driving through and had only spent a night there. Whats even crazier is we had 6 bikes in total all being held together by the same lock, and they cut the lock and only took his bike.

 Lived there 11 years. Moved last summer to Bentonville. Much happier and so glad I made the move. I miss the mountains and still visit a few times a year, but Denver not so much.

 @everythingsucks: if you want to read a plagiarized copy, you can do so here: www.universalpersonality.com/four-lives-lost-in-another-american-pandemic-homicides/news. Denver is toward the bottom of the article.

 Happening to major American cities all over. Local politics responding to hysteria and moral panics. This is what you get.

 @jrocksdh: well actually...alaska is number 2 right behind DC in terms of reported violent crimes per 100,000. last time i checked alaska was ruby red...

 @flipoffthemonkeys: key word is reported. Much different on the ground.

 @jrocksdh: Is there an American equivalent to the British Crime survey? The stats from that are based on a survey of the population (as the name suggests) rather than just the Police reports.

Interestingly crime is generally falling but Brits' perception of crime is rising...

 @F1air: must've been a bitchin bike

 Username checks out..

 I'd grab a Smash you smashed and grabbed.

 And may their trails be coated with dog shit and broken glass

 I've got the slogan "Press fit, not pressgang"

 Death to copyright thieves

 If only they spelled "thieves" correctly

 @undercoverfreak: i before e, except after c… ing your bike stolen.

 @undercoverfreak: It's a Teef good sir.

 @tprojosh: Guy Richie movies made me believe regardless of spelling it’s said Feef.

 @ODubhslaine: thats weird, I seize the opportunity to show you maybe not, albeit it nearly always works.

 You would have to hide it in the frame, regularly access it to replace it's power source, and carbon blocks any hope of transmission.

 bikefinder.com/en

 @henris2: Great idea, too bad the cap (which probably houses the antenna) protrudes so far out of the handlebar. I would destroy one every couple of weekends

 3 ways to do it. Experience as my first high end bike got stolen from my car. The guy failed to steal it as he got black listed from all LBS. I had a Lapierre Spicy 527 with the IE SHOCK. Well after every ride I got in the habit of removing the battery and HUD.

A) You go to a city or town 50+ miles away.
B) wait 1-2 years and sell out of pinkbike or Facebook
C) harvest the parts.. this day and age, the parts are more valuable. Supply chain to thank for that. Then you either toss or wait a year to sell the frame.

If any of those bikes are custom. The stupidest thing they can do is ride it in public.

 Failed to sell it*

 I don't know how true this is, but some guys that work for me are from Mexico and they were saying that a lot of stolen bikes end up down there because you can get good money for them.

 Bikes, like cars, are easiest to move once broken down into parts.

 Any stuff you can only sell to people that know what it is, will be sold to someone in another country, if possible. From EU to Belarus, Ukraine, Russia. A mtbike is easy to hide and absolutely no one will ask you about those golden spokes next time you are at that far away bike park.

 "I'm not an expert on stolen goods"..... Hmmm..... That is EXACTLY what someone who IS an expert on stolen goods would say..... And now you are all just giving more tips to shift a load of GG bikes....

 I'm not an expert but if you PM me directly I can give you tips in return for a %

 In Portland its not uncommon to see a high end MTB rattle canned' black being piloted by a homeless person, before I left there I saw a skag riding a full Kashima women's Yeti up to a bottle return station in the middle of the city. Or the best is when they steal a TT bike and swap a mishmash of parts onto it.

 @bigtim: Just, um, theoretically, if a friend of mine had like seven high end carbon mountain bikes, how might he go about selling them without any of those government types noticing. Theoretically of course. Just out of curiosity's sake. Bonus theoretical points for names and numbers of contacts to discuss this with.

 @FMHUM: ...self custodianed bitcoin P2P...or good Ole' hard cash in hand. Taxes are a bitch

 @everythingsucks: Not sure why you got down-voted, but this definitely has some truth to it. We had a bike theft ring that got busted in Albuquerque several years ago. Victims found their bikes being sold to a popular bike shop in Mexico through a Facebook page. One victim was able to work with an investigator and track down a house that operated the ring.

 @steveczech: Might have been just the over- generalization. If my bike is stolen up here in Va, it sure as hell is not going to make it to Mexico. You can get good money for a bike anywhere, not just there. Theft costs you nothing (assuming you are not caught) so any money made, be it in a whole bike or a sale by component, is cash in your pocket.

 @jmhills: Ah...gotcha. I do think that people need to be aware how well-organized and big shipping stolen bikes to Mexico is. They're sold at legit shops down there, since there's no real traceability in Mexico's systems--once over the border, they're not stolen anymore, I suppose. I wouldn't be surprised if those tendrils reached States outside of the Southwest.

 @jmhills: Yeah let me clear that up, I'm in southwestern Colorado and the guys that work for me are all from Mexico and they are all avid riders.

 @steveczech: Like jmhills said, it's probably sounds over-generalized to anyone not in the west and like I'm jsut blaming Mexicans. I should have mentioned that's where I'm at.

 they thought they were entitled to have them for free

 Nah man, order a GG today and you'd get it before Christmas.

 They got rid of model years. You just wait now.

 GG makes their stuff here. They can get them out the door far faster than others. They have a stock of components.

 It’s out of control most places and not just along the front range.

 Agreed. A lot of people trying to joke about this here, but I just don’t find it funny.

 Neither of those have a “showroom” or even a storefront. Probably wise.

 Only to be used on sketchy trails.

 Call 911 if you see a Trail Pistol

 You can’t swing a dead cat without hitting decent riding in Colorado from the Front Range west. The bike theft issues there right now are unfortunate, but the riding is sick.

 Montana and Idaho, lamentably

 Nice spot, I was wasting my time looking at classifieds on bicicletarosa.com

 They’re?

 Soros pumps millions of dollars into Colorado to put his people in the governor and DA positions who have a policy of not prosecuting crimes against property.

 It’s not stealing it’s the sigh of the oppressed ;-)

 If you really mean “f*ck Joe Biden”, why not just put it that way? Nobody is going to kick down your door for saying it.

 @bikeybikeybikebike: they think it's clever. Was played out 6 hours after the broadcast happened but some people just love dead horses so I say let em have it. Have also been confused tho, seeing as saying F*** (Insert name here) is just much more satisfying.