Hayes Announces New XC Group Featuring a Familiar Name

Jun 16, 2020
by Hayes Bicycle  

PRESS RELEASE: Hayes Bicycle Group

You wake up at 5:00 am in your plush hotel room. You’re drowsy, but luckily you prepared for this by packing your portable espresso machine. Post-espresso slam you hop in the shower, it’s race day, and that means race day razor. You need to make sure your legs are smooth, because that’s what the pros do, and pros are fast. Next, you slide into your freshly dry-cleaned skin suit and hit the road. It’s time to race. You pull up to the event, hop out of the car, throw on your headphones, and pop onto the trainer to spin it out. You see the competitors, circled up around a truck laughing and not warming up, that’s not for you. No distractions on race day. At the start gate you disregard the competitor advances and pleasantries, you are focused and determined to get the gold. The starting gun erupts, the race is on, you push hard on the double track because you know it is your strong suit, you can hold off everyone in the single track as long as you get there first, this is your strategy throughout the race. Once the race is done you pack up your things, hit the road, and plan out your rides to train for the next event. 

While this pre-race ritual resonates with some, we understand it does not reflect the entire category of XC riders. So, what about the other guys? The riders who camp at race venues, and maybe have one too many beers around the campfire the night before. The riders who would rather sprint for a chance at some air off a stump than save it for the climb.  The riders who look for components that allow them to race XC on Sunday, hit some flow trails on Wednesday, smash rock gardens and get tech on Friday, and do it all again the next week. Don’t they deserve a bit of love too?

Well, we think they do. Which is why when we developed an all-new XC group we kept both riders in mind. To do so is not easy, our engineers needed to find the perfect balance between weight, stiffness, and reliability that best served both audiences simultaneously. This meant countless hours staring into computer screens, weekend runs into the office to check on tests, and an unhealthy amount of energy drinks. As they say, hard work pays off, and we are proud to announce an all new collection suitable for all XC riders no matter their focus on the trails.



Manitou


R7 Pro
R7 Expert

Re-introducing The R7
It only seemed right that our new XC or down-for-whatever country fork would carry the name of R7. Bringing it back to the mid-2000's when XC races were a weekend long party and 26” wheels were still a common sight the R7 reigned supreme for its reliable lightweight chassis and easy serviceability.

The new R7 is available in both a Pro and Expert level each available in 27.5” and 29” wheel sizes with travel internally adjustable from 80mm-120mm.  


Chassis

When developing the chassis of any Manitou fork our primary goal is finding that perfect balance of weight, stiffness, and reliability. Thanks to our Reverse Arch we are able to position the arch further away from the axle. The lower tire clearance behind the fork relative to the center of the axle allows for a shorter arch which yields 13% increased stiffness compared to a forward arch fork of the equivalent weight. Because of this we are able to use 32mm stanchions to save weight while keeping stiffness closer to that of a larger stanchion fork with a forward facing arch.



Damper
When developing the VTT Pro damper we set out with a goal to maintain a rock-solid lockout without compromising the open and mid settings. The downside to many dampers with firm lockout modes is that in any other position than lock-out you will reach some critical shaft velocity that choke off the low-speed flow path. When this happens the damper peaks at nearly the same lock-out force as the locked-out position. This translates to harsh force in the hands and possibly lack of control.

The all new VTT damper solves this issue by eliminating the high-speed spikes while maintaining the lock-out force demanded by most XC users. This allows the fork to have a less progressive high-speed response while maintaining some low-speed support without getting wallowy. This is achieved thru independent shimstacks (one for lockout and one for the other two positions). By controlling the shim stack through which the oil flow is diverted we can manipulate the characteristic of the damper to be locked out, digressive, or progressive to meet the demands of the rider and terrain.


Spring

New for 32mm chassis we are adapting our proven Dorado Air to fit the needs of shorter travel riders. The Manitou Dorado Air spring system contain a unique balancing valve that equalizes the positive and negative air chambers during the air fill process. This gives the spring rate a consistent feel without any flat or dead spots in the stroke, along with giving riders of different weights the same initial stroke feel. For R7 we have tuned the volumes in each chamber to give ideal support and feel for shorter travel.

Also included on the air leg is our Incremental Volume Adjust (IVA). The IVA modifies the volume in the positive air chamber with a set of self-contained spacers which dictate the fixed position of the IVA piston. This self-contained volume reduction system has five different settings allowing great ramp-up tuneability without the need for additional parts.
Incremental Volume Adjust (IVA) paired with Dorado Air provides ample tuning for any user to find the perfect balance of support and feel


R7 Pro Details
• MSRP: $849.99 USD
• Weight: 1648g (29” at 120mm)
• Travel: 80-120mm
• Offset: 37/44mm for 27.5”, 44/51mm for 29”
• Spring: Dorado Air with IVA
• Crown Material: Forged aluminum, deep hollow bore
• Leg Material: 7000 series Aluminum
• Damping: VTT Pro
• Adjustments: 3-position Compression with Open Mode Adjust, Rebound, Air Pressure
• Leg Diameter: 32mm
• Wheel Size: 27.5”, 29”
• Brake: Post Mount 160mm
• Axle: 15mm Hexlock2
• Fender: Integrated fender mount
R7 Expert Specs
• MSRP: $699.99
• Weight: 1812g (29” at 120mm)
• Travel: 80-120mm
• Spring: Expert Air
• Crown Material: Forged aluminum, hollow bore
• Leg Material: 6000 series Aluminum
• Damping: VTT
• Adjustments: 3-position Compression, Rebound, Air Pressure
• Leg Diameter: 32mm
• Wheel Size: 27.5”, 29”
• Brake: Post Mount 160mm
• Axle: 15mm Hexlock
• Fender: Integrated fender mount





Mara

Following last year's launch of our Mara Pro we are happy to announce the release its slimmed down and XC focused sibling, the Mara. Using crucial tech first shown in the Pro version the Mara features the same smooth air spring design as well as our proprietary SKF Internal Floating Piston (IFP) to minimize any initial breakaway stiction. What makes this IFP so special is its utilization of a flexible membrane and lip seals instead of a rigid disc. This allows the center of the IFP to begin its movement upon compression and rebound before the actual lips of the seal break free increasing initial sensitivity.
Mara Details
• MSRP: $424 USD
• Weight: 275g
• External Adjustments: Compression Platform, Rebound, Air Pressure
• Mount Styles: Trunnion and Eyelet

Damper
The four position Incremental Platform Adjust (IPA) damper offers a wide range of compression adjustment from an open mode ready to smash through rock gardens to a firm platform setting that offers the support you need while battling those leg burning climbs. It does this by utilizing two separate shim stacks to maintain an ideal balance of low-speed and high-speed compression damping throughout the adjustment range.

The first of these is the preload stack which is controlled by the IPA knob. As you turn the knob clockwise you begin to increase the preload on the shims directly without the use of springs or carriers. The lack of springs and carriers minimizes moving mass and maximizes the speed at which the shims are able to respond to trail inputs keeping your rear wheel cool, calm, and collected no matter how choppy the trail is.

The second shim stack is a fixed velocity stack that was carefully designed to increase small bump sensitivity and provide the correct amount of high-speed compression to control the wheel with the lowest amount of harshness. This provides the rider with more chassis control, better small bump sensitivity with excellent bottoming control, less deflection through the rock gardens and phenomenal ride quality in all conditions.

The rebound on this shock is similarly controlled through two separate circuits. The first of which is a tapered needle that provides the ability to tune the rebound damping to account for rider weight, leverage ratio, and air spring settings. Adjustment of this needle through the knob affects the entire damping range but most noticeably controls the low-speed rebound. The second circuit is a fixed shim stack carefully optimized to preserve the correct high-speed rebound as the needle is adjusted up or down. This provides the rider more control, better traction and steering precision while minimizing the need to adjust for changing trail conditions.
This cutaway shows the internals of the Mara's damper. The red arrows show the oil's flow path through the compression stack. The blue arrows follow the rebound flow.





SUNringlé



Düroc 30 Pro
Building upon the already proven Düroc platform the new Düroc 30 Pro features the same trusted double wall, welded alloy tubeless rim but is now blessed with the gift of water transferred decals and a fast engaging all new Super Bubba X hub.

Super Bubba X
The Super Bubba X utilizes the same drop in ratchet ring tech as the Super Bubba, eliminating threads for easy service and rock solid interface. However, instead of the two offset 45 tooth rings found in the Super Bubba, the X features only one 90 tooth ring. This combined with a offset six pawl freehub body results in the same high engagement of 4 degrees and shaves 55g to bring the total weight of the rear hub to 285g.

The Super Bubba X ratchet ring uses keyed groves rather than threads to increase durability

Wheelsmith DB14 spokes and alloy nipples are the finishing touches to these stellar wheels

The Build
The wheels are laced with straight pull Wheelsmith DB14 spokes and alloy nipples. The total weight of the set is 1690g and will include everything you need to set up tubeless within the box. Freehub options include HG, XD, and Microspline.


Düroc 30 Details
• MSRP Wheelset: $899.99 USD
• Wheel Size: 29”
• Outer Rim Width: 30mm
• Inner Rim Width: 26mm
• Spokes: 28/28 Wheelsmith DB14 Straight Pull
• Nipples: Alloy Nipples
• Spacing: 110x15 / 148x12
• Disc Mount: 6-Bolt
• Front Wheel Weight: 806g
• Rear Wheel Weight: 954g
• FreeHub Options: HG, XD, and Micro Spline (Each wheel available separately)



ProTaper



Hyperlite Bar
As the name suggests this bar is not just light, it is Hyperlite. At just 125g when you first lift the bar you may wonder if the 8oz bicep curls you've been practicing all quarantine have paid off. And while that may be true, don’t let it distract you from the fact that this thing is very light....


The Hyperlite is available in both Team Yellow and Stealth colorways.

Grip Grit is found on both the stem clamping surface and grip areas to make sure the only thing spinning is your legs.

Hyperlite Details
• MSRP: $174.99 USD
• Weight: 125g
• Clamp Diameter: 31.8mm
• Width: 760mm
• Sweep: 9°
• Color: Yellow or Stealth





ATAC Stem

The ATAC is back. One of the oldest names in the high-end stem game has returned. This time it's blinged out with all titanium hardware and a fresh laser etched finish. Available in 10mm increments ranging from 50mm all the way up to 100mm this 90g stem is ready to steer you to victory, or the pub post-ride, whichever you prefer.


ATAC Details
• MSRP: $139.99 USD
• Weight: 90g
• Clamp Diameter: 31.8mm
• Length: 50mm, 60mm, 70mm, 80mm, 90mm, 100mm
• Rise/Drop: 5°
• Hardware: Titanium





Forty Post

For those of you who prefer to rock a stiffy we would like to present you with our new Forty carbon seatpost. As the name suggests the post is available in a 40cm length with 0 offset for both 30.9 and 31.6mm seat tubes. Thanks to its carbon construction and Ti hardware this post comes in at a scant 212g. While this post falls into our XC collection it is suitable for anyone looking for a lightweight rigid seatpost for any occasion or discipline.

Forty Details
• MSRP: $249.99 USD
• Weight: 212g
• Diameter: 27.2mm, 30.9mm, 31.6mm
• Offset: 0mm
• Length: 400mm
• Hardware: Titanium






Combined with some of our existing products these new offerings complete our XC collection. To view the entire collection click here to visit our website.


133 Comments

  • 47 0
 Amazing to see so many names come back! Now, lets get Grafton brakes, Bullseye hubs . . . and please make those Manitous grey not black!
  • 6 0
 I recall having a 150mm ATAC quill stem in Purple Ano! Crazy long! #Boattiller
  • 4 0
 @Nagrom77: I've got one in silver on a Manitou FS. It's not the reach that's the killer, it's feeling like your nose is in front of your front axle!
  • 1 0
 @Dougal-SC: I hear ya! Mine was on a '91 Cannondale SM1000 (definitely NOT a Manitou FS!). Raced that bike in the Dual Slalom at Sea Otter in '93 I think it was. So much purple ano!
  • 5 0
 Nailed the visuals. Chrome crown, gloss back, sci-fi letters. Dayummmm
  • 2 0
 @Nagrom77: Always wanted one of those. Eventually got an SE100, their first full suspension coil sprung bike (Note. You get one spring weight only). Complete and utter scaryness. 1.5 inches I think and it felt like 0.1 inches.
  • 3 0
 I am on strike till Dangerboy starts to make machined pink or purple anno levers for SRAM brakes........
  • 1 0
 @noplacelikeloam: Oh man, sketch factor 10! I remember riding a friends Slingshot on a well known Santa Cruz descent..., talk about scary! Man bikes sure have come a long way!
  • 27 0
 Hayes/Manitou/Sun-Ringle/Hyperlite were storied names of the early 90s. But market trends changed, ramped production lost quality, and the brands waned. I hope this is a new moon rising, because I have so many memories of these parts - mostly good, except for the Hyperlite bars (the only bar failure I've had while riding).
  • 10 1
 Think you have to be conscious of how we romanticize them. I had the very first Manitou fork that Doug Bradbury machined himself and while I still think it was like, the best for ever, it had zero damping, elastomers that behaved erratically over temperature change and seals that, well didn't work at all!
  • 11 0
 @noplacelikeloam: Yeah, but remember how cool it was to have two inches of squish compared to the heavy Koski forks that we ran on our chi-chi upgrades?

I had an original RS-1 fork that were the transition to the Mag 21, it had a Bontrager triple-clamp crown and almost 3 inches of oily squish. Pull out that football pump needle to add or subtract air.

It's like romanticizing a 68 Mustang with a 390; it was a beast then, but damn, a modern 4-banger actually performs better in every aspect. But I still love remembering how both of them felt when they were the new tech. And setup in their historic context, their still a blast to enjoy and a reminder of how good we've got it now. I hope you still have that original Bradbury fork rattling around in your old parts bin. I know I regret sending mine to Kona Joe and losing it forever.
  • 3 0
 @Geochemistry: 100%

Unfortunately I swapped that fork for Cooks Bros Racing crankset. Instantly regretted it.
  • 5 0
 Those first-gen Hyperlites catastrophically bent if you sneezed on them.
  • 10 0
 @Geochemistry Hayes group has been making awesome stuff for a while now, they just can't seem to re-penetrate the market.
  • 1 2
 @husstler:

118g of 6005 rigatoni, yeah!
  • 4 0
 I went with the Manitou EFC on my XC bike, people though it was crazy to put a DH fork on a XC race bike. 80mm of travel! Who needs that for XC? Isn't 50 or 60mm more than enough?
  • 2 0
 @TucsonDon: Man, that brought back memories. Jump forward about 25 years, and I put some 160mm Mattoc Pro on a homemade carbon hardtail XC bike.

I was ridiculed on Pinkbike, but now my custom Cosmos is considered downcountry, and it is a blast to ride!

With a PNW dropper and mix of XT/XTR 11sp (I built it late 2017) it weights about 24 lbs. I even found a really nice Dead Steelie that I rolled to make a one-off headbadge.
  • 3 0
 @noplacelikeloam: Elastomers have damping. It's just 100% dependent on temperature!

None of the 1991 gear stands up to modern competition. But it's still fun to ride.
  • 1 1
 @TucsonDon: 75mm. They only got to 80mm in the 1997 Palmer FS Ti Stroker.
  • 2 0
 @Geochemistry: my first fork was a Mag21 my parents couldn’t fathom why I spent the same amount on my fork as I did the year before on my fully rigid Chromo bike!
  • 4 0
 @Geochemistry: wait what? A homemade carbon hardtail? Pics please!
  • 1 0
 @dinklecorn: I partly blame distribution for this - here in the UK parts and supply are virtually non existent Frown
  • 1 0
 @noplacelikeloam: Let’s face it, we all wanted it because Tomac.
  • 1 0
 @PNdubRider: For sure, that and a useless Tioga disc for a bazzilion dollars!
  • 2 0
 @Geochemistry: Or, how today's flat bar gravel bikes are 90's era mountain bikes? Or, today's XC bikes have more travel than early, dually DH bikes.

I remember being so pumped to put an 80mm long-travel kit in my Judy. Now...120mm is considered short-travel.

Progress must progress. However, if you still have that 68, I'd happily make an offer on that beauty.
  • 27 0
 Manitou is embarrassing every other fork manufacturer out there with those graphics. So fresh! So clean!
  • 1 3
 Funny, I replied I thought they were the ugliest graphics I ever saw on a fork and my comment got deleted. Leaves me wondering was that necessary?
These graphics don't do an otherwise very nice product justice.
  • 4 1
 Not deleted apparently, just downvoted. i'm in the minority, it seems.
  • 1 0
 Its nostalgic to the original Manitou fork.
  • 2 0
 I like them. Clean, tidy, and not too outrageous.
  • 1 0
 It was a bummer for me because I really liked them too but the chrome letters clashed with my bike. But I peeled them off, scanned them and did custom cut vinyl from an online sign company in a matching color, it was cheap, looks factory or even better and they have held up great. Plus It doesn't cost much more to print multiple sets on one sheet so if they get buggered up it's an easy fix.
  • 11 0
 "...you may wonder if the 8oz bicep curls you've been practicing all quarantine have paid off." I think most people are familiar with 12oz curls. Hayes, you been slamming Red Bulls or something? Smile

Stuff looks great! Love the shiny crown.
  • 12 1
 Glad to see Manitou making a comeback. They offer stellar products at great prices.
  • 9 0
 Hayes group brands are the last one with a serious engineerd vibe, and their clumsy press-releases are a proof. I'm a fan and still ride a Nixon with TPC and Stroker Trails. Love 'em.
  • 6 1
 if this thing retails for a lot less, I'd consider it for my endurance bike. I don't really a give a crap about suspension performance as it's more about fatigue. I'm not hucking it in 50mi races. I do like the weight of these for 29er 120mm.
  • 2 2
 The R7 Pro is really light. Liking it.
  • 3 0
 @tacklingdummy: It's not really that light for what it is. The new Sid ultimate is over 100g lighter with 35mm stanchions (120mm travel), and the sid sl ultimate is over 300 grams lighter, but it's limited to 100mm travel. On the other end of the spectrum, an mrp ribbon sl is only 140g heavier, and a pike ultimate is 180g heavier (still only ~20 grams heavier than the r7expert though). Weight's not everything, but these just aren't that light for a >120mm xc fork with 32mm stanchions.
  • 1 0
 @thegoodflow: I agree with you, it is definitely not one of the lighter XC forks on the market. Especially since it uses 32mm stanchions while when others use 35mm. I hope they are saving something for the future (maybe a comeback of MRD)?. On the other hand, the new damper looks really interesting and I think the slightly heavier weight is because of that. I am looking forward to see someone testing it.
  • 1 0
 @thegoodflow: Price is the major factor in my comment.
  • 1 0
 @WoodstockMTB: it's not that cheap for what it is either
  • 5 1
 I want to try the Manitou Mezzer and Mara Pro. But it's too bad they're never in stock. Seems like all the reviewers and testers snatched up literally all the 5, possibly 6, they made. Step up production there, Hayes. People wanna try this stuff. But I quite literally can't buy them anywhere.
  • 11 0
 You literally have not been looking very hard then, they have been available. But they do seem to be available in batches that then sell out until the next one. It's worth the effort to get one, the Mezzer is easily the best air sprung fork I have ever rode, I am happy to be done with throwing money at Fox stuff to get it to work.
  • 2 0
 @velodonata: I guess I just miss the batches as they release then.
  • 10 0
 I bought myself a Mezzer to compare with my 36 Elite. It is actually a much better fork than the reviews let on. It is however, very very sensitive to air pressure changes which, as much as I love it, makes it a hard sell for OEMs and most non-tinkering riders in general. I've never had a fork stand up so high in its travel without excessive damping. The IRT volume adustment is so much more refined than volume spaces for the simple reason that is changes volume as the fork is compressed. This means you can have a lower volume main air chamber in the initial part of the travel that becomes a larger volume air chamber as you hit bigger and faster features. Keeps the fork up in its travel without it ramping up too fast. Plus, it simply looks amazing.
  • 4 0
 I waited 4 months for mine and it was the only one the distributor was able to get! I will say after 2 weeks on it, the Mezzer is performing far better than I hoped - and I had high hopes.
  • 4 0
 @cueTIP: Yes, it crushes a stock FOX, the IRT is well worth the extra setup time but I get that it's not for everyone for that reason. The PB review was the only one I recall that seemed like he was riding a different fork, there were several favorable reviews. There were some warranty issues with the first batches, many early lowers were replaced but that has been resolved. Other than needing a going through to make sure the correct amount of lube was where it should be(primarily the IRT chamber was dry, which is a likely suspect in why PB had trouble with theirs) mine has been excellent, too. And it looks like a BAMF.
  • 2 0
 @Almazing: jensonusa has been getting batches regularly. I only waited 3 weeks for my Mezzer Pro. Awesome fork.
  • 1 0
 I suppose I'll be on the lookout for the Mezzer and Mara Pro. Matchy-matchy.
  • 2 0
 I was actually able to order a mezzer and a Mara pro today. Inventory has definitely been rough but they are coming in now
  • 9 0
 Arse Heaven.
  • 3 0
 Damnit! I came here to write that.
  • 2 0
 @megatryn: Nice to know I'm not the only childish one who remembered from last time around!
  • 1 0
 @secondtimeuser: Hey! It's the only correct way to pronounce it! Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Allegedly Arse-Even.
  • 7 0
 Black components shot on a black background. Not exactly the best way to showcase your product.
  • 2 1
 They took the pictures at night.
  • 1 0
 No it looks awesome when lit correctly. This shoot was not. Just poor photography and retouch.
  • 1 0
 @noplacelikeloam: You're right. Regardless, not a good start when trying to re-establish your identity.
  • 3 0
 Glad to see they have nice hubs.
But I have an old Düroc wheelset and the quality is so low...
I can't say even one good word about it: hubs (Sun SRX) have bearing play out of the box, spoke tension is bad, rims are too soft and I got some dents on a first ride...
  • 2 0
 They thickened up the sidewalls on the Durocs. 30mm got thicker walls and they released the tougher SD37mm as an alternative to the 35mm.
  • 1 0
 I agree with @mafflin. Stating that the new wheels are based on the "already proven Düroc platform" doesn't sound very promising... I don't think I've seen a rim before was as soft/dented that easily as Düroc 30. And yes, there was enough air in the tyre.
I mean the Sun rims/wheels are classic OEM parts so you probably can't expect top quality, but I really hope the new 30 Pros are more sturdy so people get mory joy out of their new bikes. Thicker sidewalls do sound promising though, so maybe stating that instead of refering to the low quality of the older rims would be better marketing.
  • 3 1
 Man, that's some seriously light weight kit... Bar and stem look especially sic.
Coming from prior experience, even there budget suspension (markhor), is superb. I think there going to give RS Sid a good run for there money, especially for the money Wink .
  • 4 0
 I have a Mattoc Pro. Love it and the IRT air spring although sensitive is awesome.

Is the Mara a replacement for the McLeod?
  • 3 0
 It's a updated McLeod with quite a few revisions. Metric sizes only. The MY21 Mcleods will have the same updates, minus the hybrid IFP because of space constraints. Imperial sizes only under the Mcleod namesake.
  • 1 0
 @mullen119: Thanks for the info. Definitely interested in this Inline Mara.
  • 4 0
 I'm still hoping for a Mattoc update - lighter than a Mezzer, stiffer than Pike or 34. 1850g but rides more like a Lyrik or 36 with Manitou adjustablity. 120-150mm, 2.8 tire.
  • 1 0
 I am hoping for the same thing. I am thinking about replacing my 6-year old Minute Pro 140mm. Although the current Mattoc can do the trick, I will definitely be thrilled to see a trail bike-specific Mattoc with the same damper/air spring, sub-4lbs weight, and of course the retro manitou decals!
  • 3 0
 No one makes a better looking for than Manitou. Can't wait to pull funds together to get a Mezzer for my Slayer. It'd also be sick if the updated the Circus to match these super clean graphics.
  • 2 0
 The ATAC stem looks exactly the same than one Superstar Components had back in the day, the Zephyr, wich is exactly the same than Sunline had back in the day, the XC1. I owned one some 12 years ago...

www.sicklines.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/12974/title/sunline-xc-one-cross-country-stem/cat/899
  • 1 0
 ...and it looks like a million others found on AliExpress for about $4.
  • 2 0
 @nozes: Looks like a Session
  • 4 0
 Coil shock and 170mm Dorado and I'd be enduro heaven. My Mattoc has been flawless, I will have to eventually get bigger wheels and try some of the newer stuff though.
  • 1 0
 way to remember your legacy brands....like 6 years late... This is literally the business plan I handed over in 2014 in a job interview ... except the xc fork, and I still say the xc fork is pretty much pointless. eh over it. keep on medium ok-ing in the new Golden Age of mtb.
  • 2 0
 Hoping the Mara shock comes in 153x32mm length. Need one for my Rocky. Also, I need to get a hyperlite bar, they were so cool BITD.
  • 1 0
 The McLeod is still available in that size. It won't happen with later models so get one while you can.
  • 3 3
 "You wake up at 5:00 am in your plush hotel room. You’re drowsy, but luckily you prepared for this by packing your portable espresso machine. Post-espresso slam you hop in the shower, it’s race day, and that means race day razor."

Holy lack of proofreading, right out of the gate!
  • 10 1
 @rippersub i don't see any problems, you one of them french talking canadians?
  • 1 0
 I agree, it was a difficult read.
Word would correct all of this automatically, was this text typed on a Nokia 3210?
  • 2 1
 @dinklecorn:

You’re not serious, surely?

“at5.00 AM”

“You’redrowsy”

The list goes on.
  • 2 0
 They managed to get it right over on Vital
  • 1 0
 I was gonna say. Lack of coffee, too much, or a sticky space bar? Probably Covid-can’t-be-arsed syndrome.
  • 3 1
 Be nice if they'd turned the lights on before taking the product pictures though eh?

Lost in Shadow probably not the best stylistic choice for showcasing a new product.
  • 3 0
 I just freaking love manitou!! I can’t wait for their dh products to be release!!
  • 1 0
 That bar and stem look nice, and good weights. Even after XC bikes transitioned to 70mm stems, it seemed like the only aftermarket stems available 70mm were all marketed towards AM/DH, and weighed more than 90mm XC stems.
  • 1 0
 R7s were good great sensitivity,easy to service but the remote lockout let me down once just before a 100 km race I had to ride full rigid tip to Hayes lockout default to open in future
  • 1 0
 I have the old version of those Sund Ringle wheels and they are a great Stans alternative. Price is right, comes with all of the tubeless stuff you need, and a bag full of endcaps.
  • 4 0
 Manitou is killing it.
  • 1 0
 "For those of you who prefer to rock a stiffy we would like to present you with our new Forty carbon seatpost."

Just... why?
  • 2 1
 If you're going to buy manitou just know you're likely going to be shipping it half way across the country to get it serviced. Virtually no service network.
  • 4 0
 Pretty much any shop can service them, there is nothing special about them and Manitou tends to be easier to work on than Fox. Warranty work usually means sending a fork back to the manufacturer regardless of the manufacturer and SRAM / Fox have pretty terrible turn around times.
  • 3 0
 @cueTIP: Yep, my Mezzer is definitely easier to work on than a Fox. And when the damper needs service and bleeding, the Mezzer damper has actual bleed ports, that horrible bleed through the adjuster hole system on the Fox bladder dampers sucks out loud.
  • 1 0
 @cueTIP: most manufacturers recommend an annual tear down which means sending it away.
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 @friendlyfoe: er... Maybe Fox is different, but I've torn in to My old R7 (26), Pike, Reba, etc more times than I can remember. They are super easy to service. Any moderately handy home mechanic can pull it off in an hour or two. If you aren't handy, any local bike shop can certainly service.
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 @Poulsbojohnny: what you're talking about is a lower leg service which yes any shop can do.

Suspension is supposed to get an annual service to have the damper completely disassembled. Only factory service centres and specialty suspension shops can do this. Of course if you knew how you could with some specialty tools but this is not a basic service.
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 @friendlyfoe: The yearly service involves:

Replacing bath oil
Lower leg seals and foam rings
Replacing damper oil (can be done with a charger bleed kit, just did it so any shop can do it)
Re-lubing air spring seals / replacing if needed (also, can be done with no special tools or training)

Manitou recommends a 50 hour lower leg service that does all of the above except replacing damper oil. Until you've taken one apart it's hard to picture how much easier they are to work on than RS or Fox. Maybe I'll take apart my Mezzer alongside my Lyrik in a video to illustrate.
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 @cueTIP: That's not really a full rebuild. Fox/rockshox recommend having the damper assembly disassembled and shim stack inspected annually. I guess for whatever reason Manitou doesn't recommend doing that? Quick youtube and at least this manitou damper looks relatively easy to disassemble.
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 @friendlyfoe: There is no reason to pull apart the damper assembly unless it is leaking or showing evidence of inconsistent performance after a lower leg service and damper bleed. I have a 4 year old Mattoc that I did end up sending all the way to Vancouver from Calgary for service last year. Although their service tech has moved to Calgary now. Complete turnaround with custom shim stack was 3 days including shipping. I can't even get an appointment at Bow Cycle before July 29th right now.
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 Besides the handlebars none of these parts is competitive from a weight standpoint for XC.
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 I think you missed the point entirely. These products aren't geared for XC race bois. They are for average riders with average budgets.
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 Shame that the R7 isn't a 34 or 35 mm stanchion fork to compete more directly with the new Sid and the 34SC...
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 Hopefully someone at Hayes reads comments, but please do more to support local trail growth. The entire eastern side of Wisco along Lake Michigan including your headquarters in Mequon has literally zero legit MTB trails.
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 Lol that ATAC stem is a catalogue stem...i have the exact stem with sunlines name on it.
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 Def the new release stem looks uglier than the previous Answer ATAC one. The new one looks sturdier tho.
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 @okavango: you can get the same stem for 21 pounds from planet x. It's a good XC stem.
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 Good looking forks!
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 Love everything but the wheels seem blah. Not really xc weight. Light for an all mountain wheels definitely.
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 What happened to Hayes Manitou and Sun? I had their Sherman forks they worked great then suddenly they are gone.
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 I spun a ring gear in a hub body a few years ago. I like the Sun ring gear...it should never fail.
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 Have an R7 Pro on my 26 Kona. It is a fantastic fork. I really feel like it is more plush than my Pike - and I like my Pike.
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 Red for rebound, blue for Compression!
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 Did they seriously just go to the inverse on us? Hooray.
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 Reverse arch - reverse knobs. Makes sense!
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 @takeiteasyridehard: it's been that way for Manitou since the very beginning. Which in the case means they've been doing it for 25 years.
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 @nouseforaname: it doesn’t really matter, I just think it’s odd that they’ve been the outlier on this for so many years. I’m sure there must be a story behind their color coding.
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 They've been doing it their way since 1995. Not going to change now!
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 @DirtBagTim: early RS forks had the same, they changed down the line to opposite colors
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 @Brzzi: Some early RS forks even had red adjusters at both the top and at the bottom ends, but as you say, they changed, they figured out that standard color coding can be helpful. It doesn’t matter much, but if you’re in a shop or on the phone trying to explain suspension adjustments to non-experts, standardized nomenclature can reduce misunderstandings. I was an RS tech in the 90’s and found that Red=Rebound helped people who need to remember Righty=Tighty, Lefty=Loosey; that probably doesn’t apply to anyone who’s reading these comments. I have a McLeod shock and this hasn’t caused me any problems, it certainly doesn’t stop it being pretty great.
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 Spacebar broken?
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 Come back of the decade!!
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 Guys at Hayes: And what about new brakes? Let’s bring the Nines back!
All the rest: Nah, let’s skip the brakes. It never works out.
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 I've been running Dominion brakes for almost a year now and they are sooo good.
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 Clearly don't know that Hayes brakes were recently pinkbike components of the year. Hayes dominions are legit
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 @dd9433: I will second this. Dominions are unreal! Put them on last fall and am in love after going from sram to shimano and not being thrilled with either.
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 Whole first paragraph is a really long way to avoid saying 'downcountry'
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 I freaking love the colors and designs!!
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 A rigid seatpost?!?
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 +1 for super bubba
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