Hope Tech Enduro WheelsetHope have been making hubs for nearly 25 years. Over that time they have evolved to a point of near perfection; from 90s classics like the Ti-Glide and Big-un, through to the BULB, before settling on the Pro II, which has been refined and worked on for around a decade to give us their current Pro II Evo hubs. Throughout that time their hubs were laced to every type of rim imaginable, but their pairing to the Stan's Flow and Arch rims came to be the archetypal combination, especially in the UK where they still do more than half of their business. For a company like Hope who have been diversifying massively over the last few years, expanding their range well beyond the brakes and hubs the company was built upon, it seems inevitable that at some point someone would look at those rims and say, "I reckon these would be better if..." That conversation was about three years ago now, and after two years of development and refinement they launched the Tech Enduro and XC Wheelsets. Unlike much of their lineup, the rims are not made in their factory in the UK, but in the Far East. In their recent
From the Top Interview with Pinkbike, Hope founder, Ian Weatherill explained that, "We've changed the rims quite dramatically. We’re already selling someone else’s rims that were made over in the Far East anyway - like Stan's rims - so we might as well have our own. Actually, our rims are improved on those and actually better."
Construction
We tested the burlier Tech Enduro wheelset - which are designed to stand up to the rigors of what Hope describe as "enduro" racing and riding. In other words, they are intended to be tough, reliable wheels, but lighter than a set of full-blown DH wheels (Hope don't offer the rear wheel with the 150mm spacing for a DH bike). They are available in 26, 27.5 and 29" diameters, with an internal width of 23mm that stays consistent between the three sizes. The rims are made of 6061 T6 aluminium and are welded and eyeleted. Inside the rim is a triple cavity construction that Hope says helps make them incredibly tough - in the simplest terms, there are two walls within the rim itself, dividing the interior into three sections and helping to support the outer structure. 32 well-proven Sapim Race spokes connect the rim to the hubs. And those hubs... Many of you won't need an introduction to the Hope Pro II Evo; if you do the headlines are: Reliable, nicely machined and a decent weight. The front and rear can be configured to virtually any axle combination you can think of within the realms of standard hub spacing, the freehub uses their distinctive machine gun-sounding 4 pawl system and you can choose either standard lacing or straight pull for the spokes. The 27.5" version we tested weighed in at 923g for the front and 1061g at the rear with straight-pull spokes. Going down to 26" saves you around 20g per wheel and up to 29" adds around 40g per wheel. | Details: • Purpose: Trail/all-mountain/enduro • Material: Aluminium rim and spokes • Diameters available: 26", 27.5" and 29" • Axle options: 9/15/20mm (front); 135x10mm/135x12mm/135x10mm bolt-in/142x12mm (rear) • Width: 23mm internal • Spokes: 32 Sapim Race spokes, front and rear • Tubless: UST compatible • Weight wheels only: 923g (front) 1061g (rear), 27.5" rim/straight pull spokes • MSRP: $606.48 • Availability: Now • Contact: Hope Technology |
On The TrailThese wheels saw some serious abuse during our time on them. Mounted to a 160mm bike, over the three months they were tested they spent a week in the French Alps on the lifts, alond with the six day Trans-Savoie stage race and a three week stint in Whistler, where they took in everything from the bike park to all day missions.
There is little to report on setup for these - we mounted them tubeless and had no problems getting the tires seated. However, the rim strips that come with them proved to be less than durable and needed replacing fairly quickly as it shifted out of place and started leaking air. What was impressive was how well the wheels held air, and even at low pressures we couldn't get them to burp. It is also worth mentioning how easily you can switch axle configurations on these - you can pop them apart and change them in a matter of minutes. Also, on the "How easy are they to live with stakes?" the fact that they are a regular set of wheels, with regular spokes, means you should be able to go into any bike shop to replace spokes if you damage them.
We're not going to say too much about the hubs themselves here, because the Hope Pro II has been around for a long time now and has been refined to a high art. The sealing is top-notch stuff as they are designed to thrive in the deep mud of the British winter. Maybe they don't have quite the elegance of Chris King or the high end DT Swiss offerings, but they are beautifully machined with a definite solid, well-made feel to the engagement - and you're going to be left with quite a lot more money in your bank account. They don't require much maintenance and when they do it's eminently simple for anyone to do at home with a basic set of tools. One thing worth thinking about with Hope hubs is how quiet you like your bike. We tend to be big fans of the distinctive machine rattle that comes from Hope freehubs, but appreciate that not everyone is so inclined.
For the uphill portion of the ride it is hard to talk about these rims without mentioning the weight. At nearly 2kg they certainly aren't featherweights - most enduro racers run wheels that weigh around the 1700g mark (for 27.5"), some 2-300g lighter than the Tech Enduros. That certainly makes a difference to how light your bike will feel and how easy it is to put the power down. So when you look at the word "enduro" that these are marketed for, you need to have a think about what that means for you and where you ride. That extra weight has been put to use though, and on the downhill-oriented durability scales they score very highly indeed. Throughout our time with them we couldn't dent or bend them, no matter how hard we tried. On a race like the Trans-Savoie you are racing tired on fast, rocky terrain, so subtlety and finesse go right out of the window and your bike takes one hell of a beating. Even a whole week of that kind of extreme abuse didn't phase the rims, and after quick check round with the spoke key after and they were ready for the next adventure.
IssuesWhile they were undoubtedly impressive on the durability front, they did need a little attention to keep them true. Fairly on in our time with them they did lose a noticeable amount of spoke tension. After that it was like any set of wheels, you just need to the occasional turn of the spoke key to keep things sweet.
Pinkbike's Take: | "Strong, light, cheap - pick two." That old adage rings as true as ever with these wheels. When you put these alongside many of the factory wheelsets that offer similar levels of durability, the Hope Tech Enduro wheelset is around 200g heavier, but you come away with an extra $400 left in your wallet - so the question is one of priorities. If you're a rider looking for a reasonably-priced set of wheels that will stand up to a world of abuse and don't spend time counting the grams, then these are a great option for sure. What's more, the heart of these wheels, the hubs, are more or less a masterpiece and it's hard to rationalize buying a more expensive hub, especially in the UK where they have always been several hundred pounds cheaper than their high-end competition. Easily serviceable and reliable as a clock, we know many riders who take Hope hubs through multiple bikes and rims, so if you decide you want a higher-end rim down the line you have a solid, adaptable base to build from. - Matt Wragg |
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'Cause alloy freehub will die soon under heavy loads of independent steel cogs.
I think you mean steel freehub ?
But then the weight will increase.
Actually, It is not only about HOPE hubs. I have other brand also with 7075T6 freehub and they don't provide steel freehubs option.
But actually I do not need steel freehub.
I need lightweight alloy freehub and a all-10-cogs-on-spider casette for affordable price.
I can't find anything besides that CNC machined of solid alloy cassettes for 150-300 bucks. Just unreachable.
While if to set some shimano with only 5-6 cogs on spider the rest 4 small cogs will chew-in the alloy freehub in their contact places.
There is some ideas on the net about to insert steel strips between the cogs ang freehub but it is of a somewhat ugly DIY...not right.
Yep, I know Am classic and it's steel strips. I even think abpout to make this by myself on my hub. It is not easy, however.
The best would be cassette option without any too crazy modification.
Yep, I know about XT-casette. But only 5-6 cogs on spider.
Leverage is less then of big cogs but the forces applied mostly is a lot higher , isn't it ?
@ dezmtber
>The small cogs still dig on a hell of a lot.
Truth.
There are already a marks on my other steel freehub wheels. So I just imagine what will be with my alloy freehub wheel.
I climb a lot.
Seems the two options:
- cough up the dough - an expensive one
- steel freehub - a cheaper one, but where to get the steel...they only make an alloy for now. May be other brand hub will suite.Need to investigate.
( It is cheaper to buy yet one same rear hub )
Bad options actually.
Seems an alloy freehubs are only for that who just rolling down the hill.
I am pretty happy. Rims are strong, they roll way faster than my previous set of wheels (rovals with Hope hubs).
Something else i felt is that my bike is more robust? Why? I dont know yet.
..it doesnt wable anymore...and i feel more xonfident.
The only downside is that the spank are not tubelss ready, but they are tubeless compatible.
if price is your problem i would go for the spank.
Oh i forgot...the freewheel bearing noise is load and beautiful
For the record, I threw some extra pressure into my tubed setup because I was in the mood for a longer ride and I connected two riding areas with a decent amount of pavement, where lower pressure does not equal lower rolling resistance. My experience with the rims has not been good. They aren't what I hoped they would be and I don't think my expectations were unreasonable.
i do fairly heavy trail riding, think ztr flow before ztr arch kind of thing.
i at the time of most if not all of my flat spots, putting the slow leak i think i might have in my read tyre into account, id say probably 1 bar.
there are also multiple dents in the side of the rim, heres the link to a pic of the biggest one:
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tyre is a rock razor with a super gravity casing
40 psi isn't obsurd. I run 38 on my 29er XC with racekings. Prevents sidewall squirm and makes the bike more predictable while sliding. Also nice because I ride my MTB to the canyon. (5 or so miles)
TL;DR: not perfect but for 600$, they performed far beyond expectations.
A lot of quality rims do not use eyelet at all and do not suffers from failure from absence of it.
I think it's a pity for hope builing wheel like these, it can ruins their reputaton: heavy machine built wheels that loose trueness fast, and not cheap.
Pitty, as I liked the vees for the cost/performance. If these allow the cheaper tires to not blow off, I'd be all about them.
In a previous job our company distributed stan's into the UK for 8 years. As a MTB specialist we did lots of custom wheel builds. Common choice for all mountain bike was hope pro ii hubs on Stan's flow rims in 26". We never had issues with our builds, and customers satisfied. We built a good reputation. However we were not very profitable, as wheel building is a competitive market, we had to price our wheels competitively, and DT Swiss almost doubled the cost on their spokes/nipples.
A decision was made to start stocking the hoops complete wheels, which we could sell out of a box = more profit. Easy, but the wheels often required reworking before sale, or within a couple of weeks from new, which cost us time/money.
Last set of hoops I bought for my road bike required some serious time to put right out of the box. I don't claim to be the best wheel builder in the world, but I've built close to 500 pairs of wheels with many satisfied customers and use a park spoke tension meter so I know when things are not right.
Building factory wheels is tricky to get right, as the first casualty of cost is time spent, and reduced quality control. This is not specific to hoops, but many OE wheels on complete bikes are shockingly bad, problem with hoops is we are not talking OE pricing. Really tricky to produce a competitively priced domestically built wheel set. I admire hope as a company and they do make some great stuff, but wheels?
haha nice proof reading guys!
which is the case with my current hope pro evo 2 and Stan's Crest. piece of junk that needs to be rebuilt.
hope doesn't offer . please do not destroy the kings English
They're pretty good hubs. I even bought a set this year. But they're far from perfect.