Hope Technology Officially Launches the UK Made, Carbon HB 130 Trail Bike

Aug 2, 2019
by Hope Technology  

PRESS RELEASE: Hope Tech

UK Carbon Production

Keeping with our mantra of designed, tested and manufactured in Barnoldswick, every process in the production of our new HB.130 takes place within our Lancashire factory. Producing everything in house has enabled us to finetune the geometry and make minor tweaks right up to the point of final production.


The Bike

The HB.130 is the second bike to come from our Barnoldswick bike works. Born, once again out of a desire to build a bike we wanted to ride, our engineers and designers have managed to create a bike they believe is the ultimate all-rounder.

The riders at Hope wanted a bike to defeat the local technical climbs but still tackle their favourite Lake District descents and trail centre laps. Geometry is key with the HB.130 and with the angles we've chosen, the bike is playful yet controllable in whatever situation you get into on the trail. The bike rolls on 29er wheels and features 130mm of rear travel, which creates a bike that chews up technical climbs, rips along the flats then thrashes the downs.

You’ll also notice the HB.130’s designers have paid particular attention to the aesthetics of the bike. The front triangle has a curvaceous, sleek look while the rear triangle retains that trademark Hope CNC look with beautifully machined chainstays. As ever, the full bike option is fully kitted out in the highest quality Hope components. However, for the HB.130 they’re introducing a frame kit option for those who wish to put their own stamp on a Hope bike.
HB.130 Features:

Wheelsize 29 inch
Rear travel 130mm
Flip chip geometry Flip your geometry to match the type of riding you are doing.
Carbon front triangle Hand laid using UK woven carbon fibres.
Aluminium machined and bonded rear triangle We use bonding to create a strong and compliant rear triangle. We have also switched to a post mount to allow a standard brake calliper to be fitted.
130mm rear hub spacing, 17mm axle We manufacture our own hubs so we used our engineering know-how to create a narrow backend with a huge 17mm through axle producing a strong and stiff rear triangle that can squeeze through the tightest gaps on the trail saving those rear mech scrapes.
Component Integration The BB, chain guide and head set are all custom to the HB and as we can control the quality of the parts, the bearings will be long-lasting and easily serviceable.




Pricing

Complete Bike

Hope, SRAM X01 and Fox components make up the complete bike - £6299/€7500/$8400

Frameset

Inc rear shock, hubs, headset, bottom bracket and seat clamp - £3950/€4700/$4950

Upgrades

Even though the HB.130 is supplied as standard kitted out with most peoples idea of a dream bike, Hope are still offering a few key upgrade options including SRAM AXS groupset, Ohlins suspension and Santa Cruz Reserve wheels for riders wanting that extra individuality.

More info, here.


108 Comments

  • + 166
 Does the UK even have dentists?
  • + 25
 yes, but many of them are between jobs...
  • + 59
 We do, but decided to fund our healthcare instead.
  • + 14
 This is the best internet comment of the day.
  • + 29
 Have you seen our teeth?
  • + 5
 Abit further down >

teethgrinder (1 hours ago)
Would go well with my HB160, bit not sure the chief financial officer would approve the purchase order
  • + 1
 @Fix-the-Spade: no we can’t see any teeth, hence the question. ????
  • + 4
 @Three6ty: Oh they're definitely there, it's just the black doesn't show up on photos very well.
  • + 1
 @4xwednesdays: BOOM! HAVE THAT!
  • + 1
 Ha ! That tickled me
  • + 3
 @Fix-the-Spade: I Hope they at least have between 10 - 44t.....
  • - 5
flag brownturns (Aug 2, 2019 at 15:01) (Below Threshold)
 Does the US have a brain, Vote Trump in, so i'm going with no!
  • + 20
 @brownturns: ok you want to talk embarrassing vote results? that's a moot argument for both of us... next.
  • + 2
 My breakfast just got sprayed across the table.
  • + 6
 @ironxcross: ha. Pot-meet-kettle. Well played. Well played.
  • + 1
 @ironxcross: ftw! Some real talk going on in the PB comments section this morning.
  • + 1
 @Fix-the-Spade: It's the joke
  • + 2
 @4xwednesdays: I logged in just to upvote that.
  • + 23
 Would go well with my HB160, bit not sure the chief financial officer would approve the purchase order
  • + 17
 I dont understand the need to create a proprietary rear hub spacing and axle. Not to mention all the other proprietary parts on this bike (BB, HS and chainguide).
  • - 3
 Yep was thinking the same thing. There are already too many new standards popping up. Why another one?
  • + 48
 They are making their own bike free from constraints. At least this bike does things to try and bring benefits and not to drive their own sales or force people in to changing things. They aren't expecting to push a 17mm axle standard on the market but are doing things as part engineering exercise, part making a rad bike
  • - 8
flag LOSTMAYHEM (Aug 2, 2019 at 11:16) (Below Threshold)
 Its will be the bikes downfall
  • + 36
 The entire point of the bike is to not utilize arbitrary standards, but to make one cohesive machine- the same way the auto industry works. Imagine if Ferrari had to use the same hub and brake setup in the 488 as Toyota uses in the Camry.
  • + 2
 @BeardlessMarinRider: bummer for those customers if they want to run Shimano 12spd. Will be difficult to fit a Microspline cassette body with a 17mm through axle.
  • + 5
 @BeardlessMarinRider: and if your part breaks, even if they don't stick it any more they can machine a new one.
  • + 3
 @ninjatarian: Ferraris use Brembo brakes, for which parts are readily available.
  • + 22
 propietary components only problem is parts availability/compatibility.
Said so, if you buy this bike you won't be worried about that, cause in ten years time, when you need a new BB or whatever, you'll give them a call and if they don't have one lying around, they'll machine one for you. Cause they're f*cking Hope.
  • + 11
 @OTBSteve: the normal Pro4 axle is 17mm anyway, regardless of having qr, 135mm, 142mm or 148mm axles on any other bike. The axle on the HB130 and HB160 just do away with it. The normal Shimano, XD and Hope driver all fit no problem on the HB Pro4. Can't see the microspline not fitting... Hope have them ready to go.

Apart from Shimano being arseholes about it
  • + 5
 I kind of wish this rear hub/spacing setup they came up with became the new standard. I just cannot stand hitting my heels on the wide boost, super boost, hyper mega ultra boost and what ever else "wider is better" non-sense the "others" came up with. And I cannot compensate with a wider stance anymore (wider crank Q-factor, longer pedal axles) because it gives me knee pain. This hope thing and the way cannondale did it with their "Ai offset" seems like a better solution than boost that sram, trek and co. came up with.
  • + 2
 @ninjatarian: but the motor industry does standardise. The same engine, chassis and all the other bits you don't see are the same on a skoda as an Audi. The baby lambo is Audi r8 underneath and the Bentley engine is 2 VW golf engines bolted together.
  • + 2
 @ninjatarian: So other standards are arbitrary, but not Hope's in-house standards. Gotcha.
  • + 1
 Ya, I was hoping to see some detail on the 17x130mm hub, and why they want to use it, etc - but not even a close up picture of it. I'm not even sure if you can actually even see the hub in any of those pictures. But anyhow.

I'd like to say "good luck" if you ever need an emergency replacement for the rear wheel, but the fact is, with so many hub width standards, free hub bodies, QR still kicking around on some bikes, and not to mention wheel size and even rim width, the odds of being able to find a wheel for any mountain bike "in an emergency" is pretty darn low. So maybe we've got so many standards now that we're already in a post-standard world.
  • + 4
 @pinhead907: It was all covered when the original HB160 was announced, they both use the same hub standard.
  • + 0
 @hllclmbr: ok drive shafts then
  • - 3
 Agreed. Another hub non standard - bloody ridiculous decision Hope.
  • + 2
 @pinhead907: Yes maybe low, but not zero.........
  • + 7
 This bike is more of a concept piece than an actual production bike. Think of it as a platform where hope engineers try out stuff that might not make it into the mass market. Also, a proprietary rear hub from a company with legendary spare parts availability is no worse than the proprietary link on all the new Yetis.
  • + 1
 @Ferisko: Ai thing is good but still used a wide rear hub and fatbike like crankset. It is true you have a little more room and I never hit the chain stays of my Jekyll wearing a 45 bulky Five Ten shoe. At least you have a stronger rear wheel and it is very noticeable. Rear wheel keep true more time,even if you loose some spokes is not so critical to the wheel balance.
  • + 18
 I've got two hopes at owning one of these, Bob Hope, and no hope.
  • + 14
 I Hope to afford one someday.
  • + 12
 Eagerly waiting for the pound to keep dropping thanks to Brexit. Hopefully this will be like $900 US by this fall!
  • - 13
flag Vulhelm (Aug 2, 2019 at 11:37) (Below Threshold)
 You mean 'thanks to Trump'
  • + 1
 @Vulhelm: Well he did say the pound dropping, so there is that
  • + 1
 1:1 pound dollar pretty soon, market predictions. The arse is about to drop out of the UK economy, so the weak pound may help us. Just hope trumps tariffs dont bump the price back up for you guys.
  • + 1
 @yeti-monster: I love the English bits on my bike and wouldn’t mind paying a tariff for the privilege. Heck, I pay a 8.7% “tariff” if I go down to my LBS and buy an American made part.
  • + 1
 1.09€ for a UK Pound.
And I live in Ch.
Buahaha.. how I love this country! Wink
  • + 11
 Raw carbon needs to be more common among bicycles.
  • + 5
 No, it's hand made in limited number in a none sweat shop economy. Seems perfectly reasonable actually, when you divide the cost by production time.
  • + 3
 Can't afford the bike. Just make a 12 speed XT compatible freehub body that doesn't infringe the Shimano patent and I will get right on that. I'm sure this carbon mega money under travel silliness will sell out, but just think of the absolute shit ton of people who would buy that freehub body straight up. Hope, get on it!
  • + 2
 you could just run an XT derailleur without the shimano cassette
  • + 1
 @Coldspringer: Yeah but then I won't have the full benefit of all the Hyperglidyness. Plus I do dislike SRAM immensely.
  • + 2
 I think they probably (despite the 300 sales) acknowledge that the HB160 was a bit dated on the geo for the travel. This new one is much better geo, looks a thoroughly modern short travel trail bike, I think it’ll be a success in the UK especially. For the price, it is a lot of money, but compare it to the price of a top of the range Orange Stage 4 etc, it’s not too bad (although I’d personally never spend that on a bike). I’ll settle for some Hope handlebars!
  • + 4
 I just built a dh bike that had a threaded bb and external cable routing and I was like "ah, this is heaven." Maybe some day we'll get back to user friendly.
  • + 1
 2 directions there, either all the bike makers are constrained and Hope being unconstrained is making a noticibly better bike? ( See my first comment, back to back testing would anyone really know one bike has a 17mm axel, and the other bike uses stiffer chainstays instead?) OR hope is just making a "Pagannus" bike just for the bling of it...?
  • + 1
 The options prices seems wrong. How the hell can an "upgrade" from X01 eagle crankset to hope crankset cost £285? Same for AXS, price difference between regular eagle and AXS is nowhere near £1200? Or do you like get to keep the original component plus get the upgrade package as an extra?
  • + 1
 Cranks yes, though most dealers upgrade for free. AXS... Don't know but possibly.
  • + 1
 The OEM on carbon sram cranks is $16.28 US
  • + 1
 @jaame: To a retail customer X01 eagle creank set is a 350 - 400 euro part while hope cranks are a 300 - 350 euro part. Not sure why any customer would pay extra 280 quid to "upgrade" to cheaper cranks on an already very pricey bike. Makes no sense because if you really wanted the hope crank set, you could just buy the crank set aftermarket and keep the X01 for resell or another bike.
  • + 1
 @Ferisko: because you keep the X01 part. Or the shop swaps them to Hope and keeps the X01.
  • + 1
 Wait are they seriously touting the ability to squeeze through narrow trails? how effing narrow are the trails you're riding that your rear triangles aren't fitting through? This is a truly unnecessary example of un-standardization (130mm hubs, WTF), and they deserve to lose lots of money on this project because of it. STICK TOGETHER YOU IDIOTS.

At least Pivot had the decency to re-purpose something that kind of existed, although I still don't support that garbage either.
  • + 1
 I was wondering about that myself. I think my helmet is wider than 130mm, so that might be a problem.
  • + 0
 @nouseforaname: They are "still in business" because of the quality components they make not because of a few hundred bikes they sell. They have the luxury of making the bikes they want because of the success of the rest of the business. Good for them. I see McLarens quite often where I live, but their owners usually aren't bouncing them off rocks, intentionally! www.instagram.com/p/BXdYiqZFkByoMsAeBBdlsYV8U-rgW5V1ctqhrQ0/?igshid=1q7h131g2483o
@dwojo what makes it a superbike? Proprietary parts? Go ahead and drink that kool-aid.
  • + 2
 i have a set of hope cranks that broke and i cant get them off bc they use a proprietary tool with that said id still rock this bike
  • + 3
 where's the geometry chart?
  • + 30
 in 2015
  • + 1
 @generationfourth: Truest thing ever written.
  • + 2
 On Hope's website. Geo is new.
  • + 3
 @ceecee: Odd they wouldn't include it in the link above. But for those wondering, it's actually quite modern. Kudos Hope.
  • + 2
 @generationfourth: haha, that burn
  • + 3
 beautiful like british smile
  • + 2
 It was cool right up to the point where they made a new hub standard ... oh well. Nice eye candy.
  • + 3
 OK that frame is beautiful....
  • + 1
 "You’ll also notice the HB.130’s designers have paid particular attention to the aesthetics of the bike."

by giving it the squashed look? looks like it has hit a wall
  • + 2
 "130mm rear hub spacing, 17mm axle"... What? Is this the opposite of Boost...TSOOB?
  • + 2
 And people were complaining about Yeti prices...
  • + 6
 Its not quite as bad as it appears compared to Yeti (but still bad of course). With this frame they include the hubs, BB, HS and collar
  • + 16
 ok
one is made in hose, another is "made in china boutique"
  • - 7
flag mtbyoda (Aug 2, 2019 at 11:12) (Below Threshold)
 @shoreboy1866: 5k for a frame is ridiculous! Even if they include hubs, shock, BB, HS and oh ya don't forget that custom seat clamp. I've still yet to see an HB 160 in the wild on the west coast of the US and will probably never see one of these either.
  • + 9
 @mtbyoda: And yet they're still in business. I guess the West Coast of the US and following the same 'standards' forced on us by the big boys just aren't that important to them?

Do you expect parts from a YZ to fit in a Kawasaki? Of from a Ford into a Mercedes? And if you'd never seen a McLaren in the flesh would you assume they are not selling due to price?
  • + 10
 @mtbyoda: I guess if it's not hapenning in your West Coast USA bubble then it's not happening right?
This bike may not be for you but I'm sure they will sell enough to fund the project. It's a superbike not dissimilar to the auto industry's supercars. Of course it's expensive and rare.
  • + 8
 Also, Hope manufacture their bike frames in-house, in the UK.
  • + 6
 Well youve got little bit stricter laws in the UK than in Asia. Imagine the price if Yeti made it in-house...I bet they would even Charge 6000USD for a frame if GuerillaGravity made the frames...because Made in Murica
  • + 11
 Over here this thing is £900 (that's $1440CAD) less than a Yeti with roughly the same spec, we get so hosed by US brands, it's nice to see it go the other way sometimes.
  • + 2
 @mtbyoda: Hope have sold a little over 300 HB160s so far, they were bragging about it as part of the press release for this bike (and rightly so), unsurprisingly a lot of them stayed in the UK.
  • + 1
 Is the amount of fork travel a secret?
  • + 1
 i wish all carbon frames would have that finish...looks awesome
  • + 1
 First picture is an Intense Primer with a different lower pivot
  • + 1
 That bike is looks bitchin. Pricey too.
  • - 1
 I wonder how heavy it is. Hope make some brilliant kit but its rarely competitive in the weight department.
  • + 0
 Coolest 29er on the market right now.-
  • + 0
 What's that Johnny? I need to make 5 crowns this month instead of 3?
  • + 0
 Almost 5k for a frame?!?! Is it infused with diamonds??
  • + 1
 Want!
  • + 1
 sad its only 29er
  • + 0
 Bling overload
  • - 1
 Come on Hope. Is diverging from existing standards really worth it?
  • + 10
 For a business like Hope - absolutely yes.

For most other brands that are just a marketing dept with access to a Taiwanese factory and whatever parts they can pick out from SRAM/Shimanos catalog - probably no.
  • + 1
 @hllclmbr: would be very interesting riding back to back with equal spec bikes would all those proprietary parts even make a difference in your riding experience?
  • + 2
 @nouseforaname: yeah they making that shit in-house booooiiii
  • + 1
 @stiingya: exactly
  • + 1
 @nouseforaname: Ordered a Evil Faction frame partially because I thought the Evil Imperial was so cool back in the day, and partially because it was the only one I could find that would fit my parts off my old broken frame. Yeah, definite Taiwanese factory, and it's stickers on the frame, not paint. Also my fork was made in Taiwan. I dunno, it's better than I could do I guess. Respect to Taiwan.
  • + 3
 @Kramz: Hey Mark - I'm not saying that Asian frames are poorly made or less good than what Hope have made - just that they are largely constrained by the same processes. Selling 300 frames (like Hope has with the 160) wouldn't be a bragging point for a Taiwanese factory it would be a disaster. Heads would roll probably.
But imagine if the bike industry COULD support companies that were willing to step outside the 'tick off the parts you want from SRAM, tick off the parts you want from Fox = bike complete' model that we have now. Innovation is not driven 1/2 a degree slacker, 8mm more Reach at a time
Sure it wouldn't be for everyone, but Top Gear still tested Pagannis when most of the shows audience would be driving Ford Escorts.
  • + 0
 @nouseforaname: 2 directions there, either all the bike makers are constrained and Hope being unconstrained is making a noticibly better bike? ( See my first comment, back to back testing would anyone really know one bike has a 17mm axel, and the other bike uses stiffer chainstays instead?) OR hope is just making a "Pagannus" bike just for the bling of it...?
  • + 1
 @stiingya: I really dont know. I'm not likely to ever see the Hope never mind ride it.

I appreciate the engineering and if I had the cash it ticks boxes for me in not only the tech but also in the geometry front. And there's not many bikes that I would that about.
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