Hope Unveils New HB.130 29er - Core Bike 2019

Jan 28, 2019
by James Smurthwaite  


Hope has unveiled an early prototype of its second ever bike, the HB.130, at Core Bike 2019. Following on from the HB.160, the HB.130 is being designed and developed from carbon in-house at their factory in Barnoldswick, Great Britain.

The bike is the second carbon prototype of the HB.130, and there's a third carbon mould that's being made to accommodate a few geometry tweaks. Hope's unique manufacturing capabilities allow them to do multiple carbon prototypes. In contrast, most other brands do their prototyping in alloy with "test mules" before pressing the carbon button, crossing their fingers, and then making any other changes with only mould modifications.
Hope HB130 Details
• 29" wheels
• 130mm rear travel
• Contemporary geometry
• Flip-chip
• 100% manufactured in Barnoldswick
• Carbon front triangle
• Aluminum machined and bonded rear triangle with post brake mount
• Bottle cage mounts
• Adjustments: rebound, low speed compression
hopetech.com

The big distinction from the HB.160 are the HB.130's 29 inch wheels, but apparently the geometry will also be a departure from the philosophy of the former bike. While the HB.160 was best described as conservative, Hope suggest a more on trend approach with this bike. In fact, the last minute change was to steepen up the seat tube, chasing modern consumer (editor?) tastes.

That said, don't expect it to be too radical, Hope have still called this a bike for themselves, to ride on the trails near to them and have promised the geometry, "won't compromise the bike's handling on tighter trails and climbs." Final numbers are yet to be finalised but with the bike due to drop in June, it shouldn't be long before they're released.



The next prototype of the bike will accommodate a metric shock to futureproof the frame.


For now the stays are CNC's aluminium, as they were on the HB.160. However, the bridge between the two seat stays have been added because Hope want to have the option of going full carbon in future.



While the production bike is likely to be covered in Hope bits as this show bike was, some bits on here were simply what Hope could get their hands on at this time.





From Hope:

PRESS RELEASE: Hope

At Hope we’ve always made products to fulfil our own needs, to enable us to experience maximum enjoyment from our favourite trails. Right from our first mechanical disc brake thirty years ago we’ve never lost this passion for riding bikes.

The new HB.130 continues this ideology. It’s a bike for ourselves. Some might call it selfish, but if you had the opportunity to create your own bike to suit how you ride who wouldn’t jump at the chance.

We’re still trying a few final tweaks on the frame geometry and since we’re actually producing the frame in our own factory in Barnoldswick, we can keep testing alternative ideas. The final piece in the jigsaw is the rear shock. The early designs didn’t allow for a metric shock, but to futureproof the frame a little we’re currently working on a design to allow this to happen.

The HB.130 has been designed with UK trails at its heart, whether we’re riding our local Gisburn Forest trails or travelling a little further afield to the mystical riding in Torridon, the HB.130 is a willing companion. We’ve created a bike that will give you confidence on the descents, yet still make you feel like you’re an XC champ on the climbs.

The current longer, lower, slacker mantra has been followed, but not so far as to compromise the bike's handling on tighter trails and climbs.

We plan to have the finished bikes available from our HB dealer network in early summer 2019.



183 Comments

  • + 122
 That thing is gorgeous... Love the weave and logo on the top tube.
  • + 18
 Agreed. Makes you wonder—SB, or HB? Stoked on these 130 bikes !!!
  • - 84
flag goflowz (Jan 27, 2019 at 17:57) (Below Threshold)
 130 aint enough, no matter "how you ride it". i think 150 is the sweetspot
  • + 15
 @goflowz: really depends on the terrain one rides, but for me 150 is awesome at the moment
  • + 29
 @goflowz: not all of us can ride world Cup level downhill tracks. For many people 130 will be enough. For me 110-120 is my sweet spot. Other people have other needs out of a bike.
  • + 3
 This bike is easily one of the most beautiful bikes ever made.. If it rides as good as it looks it will put all other bike companies out of business...
  • + 12
 Agreed. Would look super nice with DVO Suspension!
  • + 10
 @Vulhelm: now that's one for the wank bank
  • - 20
flag BenPea (Jan 28, 2019 at 0:43) (Below Threshold)
 My eyes see a Niner from five years ago. What am I missing?
  • - 11
flag demo811 (Jan 28, 2019 at 0:49) (Below Threshold)
 Nice but something is up with the surfacing around the head tube junction, it was perfect on the first hb160 then the size large was really poor in that area and again here with the 130...
  • - 32
flag HairyLegs (Jan 28, 2019 at 1:39) (Below Threshold)
 @Vulhelm: to be honest, any and every bike looks better with DVO Suspension #DVO-Fan-Boy-Here
  • - 38
flag HairyLegs (Jan 28, 2019 at 1:40) (Below Threshold)
 @Vulhelm: to be honest, any and every bike looks better with DVO Suspension #DVO-Fan-Boy-Here
  • - 40
flag HairyLegs (Jan 28, 2019 at 1:40) (Below Threshold)
 @Vulhelm: to be honest, any and every bike looks better with DVO Suspension #DVO_Fan_Boy_Here
  • - 37
flag HairyLegs (Jan 28, 2019 at 1:40) (Below Threshold)
 @Vulhelm: to be honest, any and every bike looks better with DVO Suspension
  • + 4
 Have to agree with you there bro, but I'm a sucker for all things Hope. Had my mini mono's on my bikes for over10 yers and they still run sweet as the day I got them. Also have to agree with @chriskneeland, Atherton Racing and Hope would be a match made in heaven, lets Hope Atherton bikes still run Hope components.
  • + 6
 @BenPea: your eye balls are missing
  • + 2
 @TheDoctoRR: It is beautiful but its gonna be so expensive that few will be able to afford it
  • + 4
 @HairyLegs: your lucky man, I once replied to a comment 4 times and got auto banned
  • + 1
 @TheDoctoRR: all depends on the price. Hope is usually pretty expensive.
  • + 2
 @goflowz: you underestimate the capabilities of a modern 130 travel wagon wheeler!
  • + 2
 @TheDoctoRR: No one is putting the likes of of the big three out of business.. Let alone Yeti or pole
  • - 3
 Just put a few mud splatters on it and from ten feet away in the parking lot it looks like every other bike on the planet in today's world. That color who's ever seen a black bicycle before.
  • + 1
 @cpeper21: I'm partial to the sb130 as I own one, but this is one heck of a bike!
  • + 1
 @Bflutz625: This.

I rode a 2017 Cannondale Bad Habit 1 at Blue Mountain, Collingwood. 120mm travel front and back, Lefty 2.0 fork, and 27.5 x 3.0 tires (just barely fit on the lift). I had a blast riding downhill on it. Got lots of looks, compliments and people just asking about it ahaha.
  • + 1
 @neologisticzand: more support to my theory that people who buy Yetis do so seeking some kind of credibility as a rider or just want some recognition for all that coin they just dropped.
  • + 2
 @neologisticzand: I own one as well.. What a beautiful capable piece of machinery eh!
  • + 2
 @bvd453: or maybe.. Just maybe, they like a well made bike that has one of the best pedaling suspension platforms out.. I don't know just a hunch.
  • + 1
 @bohns1: I feel the same way about my bike, but thought this was a comments section for the Hope bike in the pictures above.
  • + 69
 It would have been awesome for the Athertons to team up with Hope for a DH project. Instead, Hope is making carbon dream bikes and the Athertons are riding frames that look like they were built at Home Depot.
  • - 12
flag thompsy01 (Jan 27, 2019 at 16:28) (Below Threshold)
 their frames are prototypes to be fair! This is a finished product
  • + 61
 @thompsy01: It says no fewer than 5 times in the article and captions that this is a prototype. Literally, read the first sentences of the first two paragraphs.
  • + 18
 @thompsy01: Aren't all Robot bikes kinda prototypes since they don't have a production frame?
  • + 3
 @tmargeson: Hope makes their own molds so to compare Hope Prototype to others isn't exactly apples to apples.
  • + 21
 @thompsy01: if the Athertons utilize the Robot manufacture method (additive manufacturing) then they’ll most likely all look like they’re “made from
Home Depot”
  • + 1
 @meathooker: he's right. they're working with robot. if you look at the top tube/seat tube junction of the atherton bike and the robot bike they both say "R160." it's the same part. what you see is what you get. not a prototype...
  • + 1
 How can you say that there arnt any pics released of a full atherton bike?
  • + 5
 @zyoungson: Check out the IMB Facebook page. It's a lugged, bonded frame. Reminds me of the early days of carbon lugged frames. For the record, I never had any luck with bonded frames.
  • + 6
 I'd rather have a bike that rides like a dream and doesnt compromise function for form then one that looks amazing.
  • + 6
 @butters1996: right. Some people want something nice to look at, other people want a tool that will perform as best as it possibly can
  • - 9
flag AndyCr (Jan 27, 2019 at 21:02) (Below Threshold)
 No one is working with Robot! It appears they went bust just before Christmas... website and twitter are down and Instagram has no updates...

I hope Atherton will look after legacy Robot owners...?

Having said all that if I can get a Robot bike for a ‘normal’ rather than double normal premium price I’ll lay my dollars on the table! Looking forward to what they come out with. I think it’s a great concept and they look awesome - total opposite of big box store looks for me Razz

I saw the prototype in the press release still had the R160 branded lugs... I’d like to know the whole story of what has gone down.
  • + 2
 @TheOriginalTwoTone: any manufacturer has the option to make their own stuff, they all just choose to do it in China/Taiwan.
  • + 2
 @Mntneer: what if you could have both?
  • + 1
 @tmargeson: haha woops
  • + 2
 @chriskneeland: on one of the Athertons' instagram there is a post with a few people sat round a table. Once person is presenting and on the screen behind that man is a rendering of, what I presume to be, a full production frame. No lugs or anything like that.

So potentially they will release a more "conventional" looking mountain bike, once they've prototyped it to the sweet spot on the additive manufacturiled frames.
  • - 5
flag zyoungson (Jan 28, 2019 at 2:39) (Below Threshold)
 @oldschool43: See what you mean but they are bringing something different to the table. If anything we dont need another generic looking mid travel carbon bike, dont get me wrong the hope bike looks nice, but it shoots straight down the middle.
  • + 0
 The renders and Atherton P01 frame look to have less agricultural lugs than the old Robot Co bikes, but the promo shots of them sat round the design table definitely have the old R.B.Co Ti hardware.
Personally, in ~15 months when I've budgeted my next rig, I'll be hard pushed to choose between this and whatever trail bike offering the Athy's will have put out.
  • + 0
 @zyoungson: Yeah, idk.. It looks 25 years old, to me, cuz I'm old. I did like the Specialized Epic and Giant Cadex. But the more pressing issue will be if someone figured out how to keep this design in one piece for more then one year. I had 2 pull apart on my personal ride and working at a bike shop, I saw about one a month that had some sort of issue. We sold about 4 a month. There was a reason carbon frames became what they are today, wrapped with no lugs..
  • + 0
 Personally I prefer the way carbon is being used in the Robotbike.co bikes over any other way I've seen. Straight carbon fibres, no free edges. No other carbon frame manufacturer does that.
  • + 34
 This needs DVO suspension. Green.
  • - 42
flag englertracing (Jan 27, 2019 at 16:54) (Below Threshold)
 You mean a nasty green and black suntor shock with a huge shaft that says dvo on it... Barf. Needs an ext storia, cream of the crop.
  • + 4
 Hope should really get into doing a nicely anodized and cnc’d British coil shock like the fast or storia ones...
  • + 0
 @SonofBovril: is there a British brand of shock? (genuine question).
I suspect there may be soon being as our currency lost 30% of its value in the last 2 years
  • + 4
 @IllestT: Compared to what exactly? GBP to USD is actually up about 5% on what it was in Jan 2017 (80p versus 76p for $1) and roughly par in relation to the Euro (1.16c) during that same period. It's barely moved in relation to the Euro, which is a better indicator IMO since the US has been through a pretty turbulent period since Donnie T took command.
If you're going to cry on about what a hard deal the mean, silly Brexiteers landed you with the least you could do is complain about the facts and not be a sheep regurgitating the talking points you've been spoon-fed.
  • + 1
 @Deuce-DeuceAndAHalf: I certainly hope things won't get too complicated, but getting a British made bike in the EU certainly won't get easier/cheaper. I currently have a warranty claim with Evans cycles which was approved in December but has been delayed for weeks because they officially stopped shipping to the EU Frown
  • + 4
 @Deuce-DeuceAndAHalf: Since Jan ‘17 yep, but about 10% down on where it was just before the vote. Jan ’17 it was lower than it’s been against USD in donkeys years, so that’s not a high bar to improve on.
  • + 1
 @MonkeyPuzzle: I already pointed out, the USD is not a good benchmark, primarily due to the political uncertainty on the other side of the pond but there are other factors of course. And even without that, the prediction before the vote was that Brexit would be defeated. Markets rose appreciably on that expectation. So again, I would suggest you're cherry-picking points to suit your argument. For sure there are downsides to Brexit, but taking off the doomsday cap for 5 minutes you can see the advantages and opportunities for the UK (that the people voted for I might add).
  • + 0
 For green kind of being Hope's color, it is odd that they don't sell green components.
  • + 2
 @metareal: Evans not shipping to the EU any more will be more a case of them going bust and being bought over by Mike Ashley who is notorious for cutting costs. I very much doubt Brexit has anything to do with it
  • + 0
 @Deuce-DeuceAndAHalf: I mean since June 2016 when the £ was worth €1.44 whereas now its worth about €1.10
  • + 1
 @IllestT: If memory serves me right the Euro was weak against the dollar during that same period (when the entire eurozone was bring called into question); And all that predates Brexit by a solid year or 2, so really it's a moot point. If you've done this "analysis" by yourself then you've done it wrong. If you're repeating something you were told/ heard then whoever said it is incorrect... and you're still doing it wrong. Learn to look for evidence, not confirmation.
  • + 1
 @IllestT: And the pound was hovering around Eur 1.20 in June 2016. It hit > 1.40 in 2015
  • + 1
 Only pro's get green.
  • + 0
 @Deuce-DeuceAndAHalf: I can't show images here, but look up the 5 year graph of £:€ it is clearly shows 1.44 in June 2016 with a massive and sustained drop afterwards
  • + 2
 @IllestT: I already said "I already pointed out, the USD is not a good benchmark, primarily due to the political uncertainty on the other side of the pond but there are other factors of course".
The world is too big and too complex to single out isolated exchange rates as evidence of either argument. It neither proves, not disproves Brexit is leading to a devaluation of the pound.
Btw, one of the great (and undersold) benefits of Brexit will be the ability to once again take *full* control of the British economy (for better or for worse) and not be answerable to a bunch of unimaginative (and unelected) technocrats.
  • + 21
 “...future proof the frame...”. That’s hilarious.
  • + 2
 Future proof, so long as the future includes Hope's rear hub dimensions....
  • + 14
 @takeiteasyridehard: I was gonna say that Hope are hardly unique in their constantly evolving offerings. But I do think that Keith Bontrager's synopsis could do with some updating:
"Light, Strong, Cheap, Future-Proof; Pick two of the first three cos you ain't never getting that last one!"
  • + 7
 @Deuce-DeuceAndAHalf: From experience Hope a pretty good at supporting their old products. I've had customers with old hubs and brakes which hope had discontinued and they machined up new spare parts for them. Beauty of in house production i guess.
  • + 4
 @froman82: Agreed. Top service from Hope, they replaced the circuit board on my 4 year old R4 light free of charge and it was back with me within 3 days of sending it.
  • + 2
 @Mattgc: My bad- I wasn't singling out Hope in the slightest. I'm a very happy customer of theirs, believe me! I meant more that as a whole the industry is not going to lie down and stop innovating; "Future-proof" anything in mtb basically guarantees you nothing. It's a redundant claim at best.
  • + 1
 Is there really no way to put a metric shock on an older frame?
  • + 13
 Hope are doing what Orange Bikes should have.
  • + 2
 Absolutely
  • + 20
 I believe there's a business reason why Orange haven't tried carbon. They're tied to aluminium for some reason.

What's annoying about the orange bikes is that they're really simple designs and they've been banging the bikes out the same way a while - folded aluminium sheets, single pivot etc and yet the bikes cost the same as a Santa Cruz. £2000 for a Stage 6 frame only + another £100 for any colour other than black or orange. £3900 for a pretty basic spec Stage 6... You also hear of them breaking more than other bikes. Shit value for money.
  • + 1
 @tom666: The complexity of the metalwork on the Orange frames makes normal alu frames look basic by comparison and the low weight and ride quality do go some way to justify the price tag, in my experience.
The cracking thing does seem to be their achilles heel though, can't argue with that.
  • + 7
 @tom666: @tom666: The business reason, or at least used to be, is that the production facility was a separately-owned, by the familyof one of the original owners of Orange, metalwork company that specialised in folded metal fabrication. There is a good reason why Orange bikes look a lot like filing cabinets... the filing cabinets were made downstairs and the bikes were made upstairs before being shipped across Halifax to Orange for paint and assembly.
  • + 4
 @Shannyla: Bloody beautiful filing cabinets in my opinion
  • + 1
 @jimmythehat: Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder... I'll give them a certain post-industrial cool, for sure. Just could never get on with the high pivot position, but we've still got an old Animal team Patriot in the attic, with a set of Manitou Millenium single crowns on it and special long team-issue chainstays.
  • + 1
 @chakaping: I've demo-ed a Stage 6 and it's one of the best bikes I've ridden. I really liked it. But £2100 for the frame only in blue... f*ck that
  • + 13
 I Hope this will be available in the U.S. !
  • + 1
 I have Hope this will be a big hit in the 29er market segment Smile
  • + 1
 The only bad thing I could say about their 160 is that you couldn't buy it here.
  • + 1
 @TheR: You can buy the HB.160 in the States from our US distributor.
  • + 1
 @hopetech: Thumbs up! Thanks. I could have sworn that I read on your site that it was only available through certain shops in Britain. Maybe that was the case at the beginning? Or maybe I just misunderstood. Anyway, these bikes look killer. Thanks.
  • + 12
 Where's the HB200....
  • + 2
 Would love to see Adam Brayton on one of those!
  • + 5
 Bikes with the latest 'trendy' numbers don't necessarily like better than one with 'contemporary' geometry. I think a 130mm 29" trail bike should have balanced geo rather than go with the latest 'trendy' numbers with nearly vertical seat angle and 60deg head tube. Trends can change overnight but a balanced bike will ride well even next week...
I predict that after this trend will be over then the new one will be the steeper head tube and slacker seat tube angles to sharpen up the handling and make the ride more comfortable... and we will end up at today's 'contemporary' geometry. Smile

Oh, and the bike looks awesome!
  • + 3
 I’ll agree that 130mm 29ers shouldn’t be crazy raked out, absurdly long and should have more nimble handling than an enduro bike, but I don’t believe that the current trend of longer and slacker will go out of style. The new school geometry works and I think it’s here to stay. Where I think they will settle though is with enduro bikes and downhill bikes being no different except for travel and seat tube angle and length, trail bikes having the same geometry as modern enduro bikes, and cross country bikes being very similar to the geometry of the trek fuel ex. Who knows though anything can happen.
  • + 2
 @TheSlayer99: I still think that the current trend will stop at one point. For an average height rider, trail and enduro bikes with 75-76deg seat tube angle are rideable everywhere even on longer rides on various terrains but when you go steeper it messes up the handling. With the steep seat tube angle you need extra long reach and accompanied by slack head tube angle you'll have a bike with crazy wheelbase and it will handle like a bus. Yes, you can bomb down with it on extra steep descents but that's pretty much it. That's why I think the current trend will stop and reviewers will start demanding bikes that are more lively and fun to ride just like they do now with the low/long/slack BS and the 'trend cycle' will start again.
  • + 1
 @bikeinbih: The long/slack/low geometry works well, and is by no means bs. Eventually, as I stated in my first comment, trail bikes will be more fun and nimble, and enduro and downhill bikes will be stable and more made to get down to business and go fast. There will be no “trend cycle”, just a stop right at the edge of where its too much. My current bike has almost identical geometry to the evolink 131, and it handles like a dream, and I never find it to be too much bike, and I think it handles exactly like the Santa Cruz Nomad which has 20mm less reach and 20mm shorter chain stays.
  • + 1
 @TheSlayer99: Longer/slacker/lower works for certain uses but it's not for everything that's all. Even reviewers that are demanding 'modern' geometry but when they have to actually ride it more than just bombing down on descends they prefer the more 'contemporary' geos. Just read the recent review of the Pole Machine.
But hey, whatever, we have different needs and opinions. For me, the long/low/slack trend already hit the BS meter and for you, it works well... that's all good.
And yes, there will be a 'trend cycle' because manufacturers cannot just sit back they have to come up with something 'new' to keep selling bikes. So after they will be too low/long/slack the 'sharpening up the handling' will come and the media will ask for 'fun bikes'.
  • + 6
 There are so many amazing bikes coming out. I wish I could try them all. What a beautiful bike @hope
  • + 5
 I need to know the geometry. The term “contemporary” is ambiguous at best. Contemporary for an XC bike, an Enduro bike?
  • + 7
 The term modern however, refers only to 1500 wheelbase, sub 60 head angles and 90 degree seat angle. The numbers of the enlightened!
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: You forgot a minimum usable reach of 580mm, Superman the day away!
  • + 0
 @Shannyla: uneven grip location! Uneven brake lever lengths! Awake as fukh!
  • + 1
 WOKE. Get your trolling lingo correct dude @WAKIdesigns:
  • + 1
 @CaseVentura: it's a calling to becoming "woke"
  • + 5
 Looks really good but gotta post the GEO numbers to see if it will survive in the Pink Bike lion's cage.
  • + 6
 that weave looks sick...
  • + 1
 I did a tour of the Hope factory 4 or 5 years ago, when they were experimenting with carbon for bars and seatposts. They were toying with the idea of building their own bikes then, so it was interesting to see what they were doing, machining their own moulds. As is customary with Hope stuff, it always look beautiful and the HB130 is no different.
  • + 1
 Stunning workmanship and build quality. BUT ... when i read things like "will take metric shock to future proof" makes me think they just fall into marketing speak to attract buyers. The 160 was a design piece to show what can be done. This however doesn't excite me
  • + 3
 It's gorgeous! Please make it fit taller riders too! I'm 6'6" and won't fit the HB160.
  • + 2
 Second this. Please do not be like Unno with only one size and make XL or XXL size with 510+mm reach. And longer chainstays too.
  • + 1
 a friend of mine is also 6.6 and he wanted to buy a bike, the guy in the lbs said he should go and play basketball. not the nicest thing to do, nevertheless i could not stop laughing. ever considered a career ? -a lot more money than in biking too.
  • + 2
 130 trail bikes in 29er format with current geometries = win. I think you'll be seeing this from more than a few companies as a new standard...
  • + 1
 Very curious to learn more about pricing. I'm one of those who has never purchased a complete bike and while I still hate to consider it, I would love to put this frame in the garage to fill the 29er trail void!
  • + 3
 No mentioin if they are going to use a 130mm hub again. Weave looks excellent.
  • + 1
 The whole 130mm offset hub thing is bizarre. Any minute advantage over a 148, or even 142 offset (like some cannondales) hardly seems worth going with a completely proprietary hub standard. Imagine busting a hub and trying to source a 130mm?
  • + 14
 @bobshort: that's the point though. You don't have to source it, you go straight to hope every time. For everything you need. And they made it minutely better to prove a point. Because the others are improving on a bad standard incrementally while hope just asked what is best and this turned out to be minutely better. I.e. could not be improved upon when taking into account the whole frameset as a unit.
  • + 3
 @browner: Absolutely. With the HB bikes you basically get one of everything Hope make including a wheelbag and T-shirt. They're for people that buy into the whole Hope philosophy, and you'd replace the hub with another one from Hope, who will be supporting the bikes for as long as they exist as a company, not dropping support as soon as they move onto the next thing.
  • + 2
 @browner: and the to add to that, the hope standard is resolving the problem of wide rear axles while having the same benefits, you are way less likely to bust your derailleur on a rock that with a boost or super boost, and that to me is a plus.
if hope hubs were bad it would only a good idea with a bad resolution, but as they are great there is nothing to worry about
  • + 1
 We've had confirmation today that they are using the same hub.
  • + 2
 Beautiful bike with flawless attention to detail as with every Hope component, lucky bastards that can do get to own them I say.
  • + 3
 What's up with the logo on the cranks? Custom to the bike or an update? Looks way nicer than the older logo.
  • + 10
 They have made some updates to their cranks as well. Details coming soon.
  • + 3
 @brianpark: Thanks. Of course it would be just weeks after I bought the old ones!..
  • - 1
 How many proprietary tools needed for these ones? Hopefully no less than 4
  • + 1
 Just wonderful now there'll be more water bottles laying in the woods from lazy mf's that can't pick their bottle up once it falls out of their cage.
  • + 2
 Pole makes bonded alu bike, the internet breaks. Hope makes a bonded alu rear triangle and nobody notices....
  • + 1
 Actually, what struck me is that in the same sentence it says "post brake mount" so that was distracting from the bonded rear triangle. I expected them to stick to that new brake mount they have as they thought it was so clever. Now I'm curious about the axle size too. The one on the the HB.160 was proprietary too. See, production processes are interesting. Until we can discuss standards. That's internet breaking stuff.
  • + 2
 Like every hope product before it, just a beautiful piece of mechanical art!
  • + 3
 Maybe they could build some bikes for turner
  • + 2
 I actually looked closely over the pictures before heading straight to the comments.
  • + 1
 Interested in the rear hub width, with Hope going 130mm on the 160. I wonder if this 29er has been boosted or remained the same?
  • + 2
 Beautiful bike! Hope has always been one of my favourite companies
  • + 2
 I Hope it’s not 15k because it sure looks pretty ballin
  • + 1
 Wheels seem to be new as well. Hope Forty5-26?
  • + 1
 What about the new Fortus wheels though? Whats the deal there?
  • + 1
 If you go right from main pic it reveals 4 new rim cross sections .Looks like they have got rid of the angular rim bed,which is nice .Hopefully they add a rim around the 25 to 30 mm mark too . www.pinkbike.com/photo/16806311
  • + 1
 looks like the old stumpy
  • + 1
 This bike looks very-very much like the 2015 Stumpjumper EVO
  • + 1
 I ll wait till they drop the price again
  • + 1
 Im running out of kidneys, how much?
  • + 0
 Is this another "exclusive" bikes that wants to be different at all cost – for no reason?
130 read dropout? lol
  • + 0
 Need life time supply of shock bushes to go with it. Hate that suspension layout for that reason alone
  • + 1
 I'm loving the Gentleman's Lounge shoot for an intro Beer
  • + 2
 That weave is so rad.
  • + 1
 They need to manufacture their own gearbox in house to finish it off.
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 I can see it now, rich Poms riding these things with colour coded hope products draped allover them, fair enough but please, grips and cables should be black.
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 Well I hope they don't export them to the colonies. We'll keep the colour coded shit here then
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 @yeti-monster: just get stolen here cobber.
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 @yeti-monster: This colony will gladly take them.
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flag jaame (Jan 28, 2019 at 1:48) (Below Threshold)
 Poms?
Could you be any more racist?
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 That was a joke by the way.
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 That is one gorgeous bike!
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 Dang! Thats beautiful! Bring it over to the States!
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 Me like-E.......I would probably put a longer travel fork if I had that kind of money.
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 They definitely didn't change the seat tube for editors preferences - the editors here don't seem to know or care about the difference between actual and virtual seat tube angles. At least the guys over at bikemag rode and reviewed the Fezzari La Sal Peak and noted how it pedaled...
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 We don’t mention actual seat angle as much as effective because it’s not as easy of a number to compare. Not all seat tubes are in the same location relative to the BB. Because of that fact, you could have two bikes with different actual seat angles that result in the same effective seat angle.

We’ve mentioned plenty of times that steeper seat angles (up to a point) work bettter with the latest crop of bikes with longer reach numbers. Oh, and we have a La Sal Peak in for review now - you’ll be able to read all about how it pedals in a month or two.
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 @mikekazimer: keen to hear what you guys think about the Fezzari La Sal Peak. I've been blown away with mine. Every bit as good (better?) than my Ibis RipMo.
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 @mikekazimer: i mean, you could measure the actual seat tube angles... I'll buy a tool for you.
www.acklandsgrainger.com/en/product/p/JHL40-0220
You do realize the effective angle is only measured in one place right? and not at full extension of the seat to climbing height?
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 Black with green touches, gorgeous!
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 "Contemporary geometry" ? like on a previous one? probably already 5 years outdated ... Frown

and the targets are not super aggro/rad riders, but rich sunday warriors ...
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 The name sounds like something else......
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 WOW Drool
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 I Hope at some point they'll make a 100% CNC bike.
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 They used to have an all CNCd hardtail frame at trade shows back in the days.
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 Shut up and take my money!!!!
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 Looks crazy short?
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 Keep the CNC'd stays!
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 HB160 FOR SALE########
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 The price is so big that they did not even mentioned itSmile Smile Smile Smile Smile
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 reach looks really short
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