6 New Wheelsets from Ibis - First Look

Apr 12, 2016
by Mike Levy  



6 New Wheelsets, A Lot of Numbers

Ibis' wheelset lineup has expanded by six new offerings, including four fresh carbon fiber options. The most notable news for a lot of riders, however, might be the addition of two reasonably priced fat aluminum wheelsets that don't require a fat wallet to get ahold of.

The new carbon wheels and rims include the 742 and 942 (35mm internal), and the 735 and 935 (29mm internal) that all share the same $1,799.00 USD price tag for a pair. The 738 and 938 aluminum wheelsets feature a 35mm internal width, and a pair in either diameter goes for $549.00 USD. Update: the aluminum 738 and 938 rims can be purchased on their own for $99 USD, and the carbon 742, 942, 735, and 935 rims go for $525 USD each.

An easy way to figure out Ibis' nomenclature is to remember that the first number indicates wheel size, so 942 would refer to a 29" wheel while 742 would be a 27.5'' wheel. There are even more numbers to take in below, and Ibis was wise to send a cheat sheet over that breaks down rim widths and diameters, rim and wheelset weights, and everything else you might want to know when it comes to numbers. See below in order to nerd out.

Ibis



More Width, Less Money

Carbon fiber is cool and all but let's be real for a second: the very large majority of mountain bikers are more likely to buy a new aluminum wheelset before they drop three times as much (or six times as much) on carbon hoops. Ibis knows this, which is why they've debuted two new aluminum rims and wheelsets, the 738 and 938, that both sport a 35mm internal rim width (the same as the $1,799.00 USD 742 and 942 wheelsets) and retail for $549.00 USD per pair. Less money equals more weight, of course, which is why the 738 and 938 wheelsets weigh in at 1,880 and 1,935 grams, or 250 and 245 grams more than their pricier carbon equivalents.


Ibis wheels


According to Ibis, the aluminum rims share the same 5mm asymmetric spoke drilling, a tubeless-ready profile, and equal spoke tension of the pricier carbon offerings, and they have a black anodized and laser etched finish. Claimed weights are 502 and 530 grams for the bare 27.5'' and 29'' rims, or 67 and 65 grams more than the carbon versions.


New Wheelsets from Ibis
New Wheelsets from Ibis


While Ibis has moved to using Industry Nine Torch hubs for their carbon wheelsets, that wasn't going to fly for something costing about a third of the price. Instead, the 738 and 938 rims are laced to a set of Ibis-branded hubs that they say come from a small CNC shop in Taiwan, and drive comes via a 36-tooth, 4-pawl freehub that's available in either Shimano or SRAM XD configurations. Bearings come from Enduro, and while the 738 and 938 wheelsets will only come with Boost-sized hubs for now, Ibis is considering a 100/142mm hubset if there is enough demand. Speak up if you want it.



More Width, More Carbon

Want some extra width and ready to spend more than you would to get an aluminum wheelset? The new 742 and 735 (27.5 x 42mm and 35mm), and 942 and 935 (29 x 42mm and 35mm) all feature spacious widths and the same $1,799.00 USD price tag for a pair, along with the same carbon fiber construction. The carbon rims are all-new compared to Ibis' previous offerings. Weights for all four are as follows: 1,630 and 1,540 grams for the 742 and 735 wheelsets, and 1,690 and 1,590 grams for the 942 and 935 wheelsets.


New Wheelsets from Ibis


Ibis has stuck with the 41mm outer and 35mm inner widths for the new 742 and 942 carbon rims, but they are claiming that they've increased impact strength, reduced weight, and managed to maintain lateral stiffness. The 735 and 935, on the other hand, feature 35mm outer and 29mm internal rim widths, with Ibis saying that the wider and shallower rim shape has let them match the weight of their older 928 rims while also significantly increasing impact strength and lateral stiffness.

The new carbon 742 and 942 rims feature 5mm of offset, while the 735 and 935s sport 2.5mm, thereby allowing both sides of the wheel to have higher and more equal spoke tension. Ibis says that the higher tension, combined with a rim height that's been reduced to 19.5mm (the previous rims were 29.5mm tall) make them stronger and better able to handle sharp, localized impacts. Think low tire pressures and pointy rocks. The rim's layup has also been updated: ''we are introducing a new hybrid carbon fiber layup, strategically combining layers of a new, high-toughness carbon/epoxy prepreg with our original carbon composite, increasing both ultimate strength and impact durability. As a result of all this, the 742/942 nets a 30% increase in impact strength yet a 7.5% decrease in weight, compared to our previous rims.''


New Wheelsets from Ibis
New Wheelsets from Ibis


At the center of all that is a set of Industry Nine Torch hubs that are made in the US. The rear unit employs a 60-tooth ratchet and six out-of-phase pawls that supply a quick 3º engagement. Rotors attach via a Center Lock mounting system (adapter required for 6-hole rotors), and they spin on Enduro bearings and come with either Shimano or SRAM XD drivers.

What's happening to Ibis' previous carbon fiber wheelsets, the 741, 941, and 928? Ibis does plan to stock enough of those rims to fill any crash replacement orders that will arise for a long time to come, and they are also offering some pretty decent prices on the remaining complete 741, 941, and 928 wheelsets that they have in stock: $1099.00 USD will get you a complete pair of any of those in 100/142mm hub spacing. ''After that, with enough demand, we'll keep making them [741, 941, and 928 carbon rims] and migrate to our Ibis hubs,'' said Ibis' Scot Nicol of their plans for the future. ''They're great rims, tooling is paid for, so why not offer this more affordable alternative. We'll let the people vote.''


www.ibiscycles.com/wheels / @ibiscycles


179 Comments

  • 79 4
 Back when I cared about the weight of my bike I still had a rule, no more than £1 per gram. I.e. If an upgrade costs more pounds than it saves grams it is not worth it. 240g saving for $1200 cost is well outside of my rules, the aluminium version looks great though.
  • 98 8
 as an imperial system user, this comment is a pretty hard to follow
  • 32 0
 Today you learn that carbon wheels are not just about weight savings.
  • 33 0
 @colemanb: He will pay $39.97 per ounce in weight savings

$1.41 = £1
28.35 grams per ounce

1.41 x 28.35 = 39.97
  • 18 0
 @colemanb @Alias530:

£1 = $1 4/10
1 Oz = 28 7⁄20g

= $39 24⁄25 per Oz
  • 52 2
 You should realize that the cost to weight savings relationship is exponential, not linear.
  • 22 27
flag Fattylocks (Apr 12, 2016 at 10:09) (Below Threshold)
 Turning into a rich kid's sport.
  • 86 3
 @Fattylocks: Every hobby can be described as that. You can have a Honda in the car scene and see a Doctor pull up in a Porsche, can you hate on him for putting in the school time, hard work, school loans, high risk for being a doctor and being able to afford a Porsche or do you ask yourself, "What do I need to do to get myself there?"

Let's break out of the backwards thinking because someone out there will have better stuff than you and you will have better stuff than other people. When i was young and fresh out of college I asked myself these questions rather than saying "Why not me?". And when people at my local bike park or trails comment on my "nice bike parts" I don't get offended or get mad they think I'm some spoiled guy who doesn't deserve it but as a compliment that my hard work has paid off to allow the weekend warrior in me to buy nice toys. Smile
  • 5 2
 @Fattylocks: or just make more ????
  • 34 1
 @Fattylocks: its already a rich kids sport.. isn't it?
  • 21 1
 Imagine if they were available in 26", cost to weight savings would be even better!
  • 5 1
 @colemanb: Let me help you out here: His rule is that one should not spend more than 50 canadian dollars for every cubic inch quarter pound weight savings because that would be like totally wrong, as if 100inch would equal in one foot or something...

guess i'm saying i'm equally confused by your imperial units as you are by our metric ones Smile
  • 6 1
 @tonggi: That's it! Work hard. Spend money where it matters to you!
  • 9 2
 @colemanb: The British, which is the imperial itself, has converted to metric for long already.... The No.1 dumb things about USA is the imperial system lol
  • 7 0
 @iffy: Reminder this is rotating mass. You could argue the weight savings in a wheel is 4:1 versus non-rotating or unsprung mass.
  • 2 0
 Duplicate?
  • 7 0
 @tonggi: True story! Hard work comes first, then the rewards!
  • 11 4
 Imperial kicks ass for carpentry.. Smile
  • 1 0
 @rx1ton: this is valid. so other upgrades are only 0.25 times as cost effective, oops...i mean a 1/4... Redface
  • 4 0
 @Fattylocks: always has been.
  • 4 1
 @therealtylerdurden: No way man, ten fingers, ten toes. Multiplying and dividing fractions can only be achieved if you studied analytic number theory at MIT or use a calculator.
  • 2 0
 @Fattylocks: for real, lol you can buy a decked out new f*cking computer for that much
  • 5 0
 @tonggi: Great Wisdom extolled upon us....Well put!
  • 2 0
 @Speeder123: Wow really? Cause you never think of Liberia and Burma as having their chit together...
  • 13 0
 @Fattylocks: Has been a rich kids sport for a long time. Gotta realize though, that if you can afford to ride any MTB you are kind of a rich kid compared to a whole lot of people. Thankfully, the expensive end of things keeps making the affordable end of things better year after year. Its a rad time to be into MTB.
  • 2 0
 @tonggi: Post of the Year
  • 6 2
 I don't envy Doctors at all. Spending your day dealing with people coughing in your face, or fingering random people's bum holes. You are welcome to your generic $10,000 plastic enduro steed Wink
  • 6 0
 26?
  • 1 1
 Those are some fugly ass wheels for $1799.
  • 5 0
 "...while the 738 and 938 wheelsets will only come with Boost-sized hubs for now, Ibis is considering a 100/142mm hubset if there is enough demand. Speak up if you want it."

I WANT IT !
  • 3 0
 Oh, and have I already said I WANT IT.
  • 5 0
 Just so you know, I WANT IT.

In 100/142. You can keep your Boost hubs.
  • 1 0
 @smike: It's not an exponent. It just increases dramatically. Since you were being pedantic.
  • 1 0
 @ajayflex: I'm sorry... Who's the one being pedantic? Wink
  • 2 0
 @colemanb: Start using metric rather than crappy Imperial measurements. The metric system is just better. You might not be used to it, but it's a better system. 1KG is 1L of water etc. etc.
  • 2 0
 @Vanguard: Got it!
  • 1 0
 @hans-heim: I take that as a yes. Thanks.
  • 1 0
 @Vanguard: I was thinking the same thing, until I saw they list a SRP for just the rim ($525), implying they'll sell just the rim.
That leaves $750 for the hubs, spokes and build labor. I think I can do better than that, with whatever hubs I like.
  • 1 0
 @tonggi: Its the f*ckface that shows up with his Porsche GT3 for a trackday that won't wave you passed in your honda....he's the irritating one. As long as he can floor it through the straightaways....he won't have to see you in his rear view for 5 more seconds.
  • 1 0
 @papaweelie: Haha 'What the f*ck is an apex? I don't need skill, I have money.'
  • 1 0
 @papaweelie: Keyword trackday. I've been there. Use to go with PCA because their track days were cheaper and more organized, go figure. WHen that happens. I pit in, I let them all pass then I have the track to myself. Its not a race. Its all about perspective.
  • 53 1
 there are too many product releases for one day. how am i supposed to get my wok done?!
  • 99 0
 Good luck. And Sea Otter is only two days away, which means even more new things to look at... I don't think you're going to have a very productive work week.
  • 11 0
 @mikekazimer: Exactly what I was hoping for. Productivity is overrated.
  • 5 0
 @mikekazimer: you can always give me a job Wink
  • 62 0
 If you turn your stove to "high" your wok usually is done faster.
  • 2 0
 Medium heat for vegetables, high for meats.
  • 3 0
 @mikekazimer: You might even call it a 'work weak' Smile


I'll get my coat.
  • 38 1
 I'm width you
  • 17 0
 Anyone else thing that 35mm inner width is too wide for a normal, 2.3-2.5 tire we see today? 29mm internal seems perfect, BUT doesn't come in aluminum... Wtf
  • 4 0
 Yeah, 28-30mm internal is good for 2.3-2.5.
  • 3 0
 @Alias530: Agreed - the 29mm rims on my Kona seem to already make my Minion DHF a bit square.
  • 6 0
 Check the aluminum roval traverse fatties.
  • 5 0
 Personally I don't find my skinny 25mm internal rims bad on a 2.35 Schwalbe. 20/25 psi front/back and I weigh over 200lb without gear. Might bump up the pressure a bit if I was doing big jumps.
  • 3 1
 @JesseE: Yep, can't say I even noticed a grip difference going from 24mm internal to 30mm internal. Stiffness and ease of point and shoot, yes, but not grip. And I attribute the stiffness to carbon vs alu, not width.
  • 3 0
 @Alias530: more stability at lower pressures? That would be the only reason I bother. My KOMs are approx 450grm at i25 so I'm reluctant to go heavier for minimal gain. I'm not a carbon guy, but my first foray would probably be rims. Bit more stability at lower pressures and no weight gain sounds fine by me.
  • 1 0
 @JesseE: NOBL @ 27mm ID might be the sweetspot, Im waiting on them.....
  • 1 0
 @Lagr1980: Very interesting.
  • 1 1
 This is a huge issue - you have to run some serious rubber on these things to get an appropriate profile. This additional rim width combined with larger tires is great for handling (DH/AM application) but really adds up in the rotating wheel mass and isn't as 'lively' given the lack of compression control of the tire. Lower pressure is good for the down, but climbing at low pressure is not ideal and that sweet spot between resistance and pressure is a tough balance to achieve. I think something around 30mm is ideal for a balance between weight/stability/grip. Wider doesn't help a ton in cornering just straight line traction. Tire options DHF WT 2.5, DHR II 2.4 WT, Bontrager SE4 2.35, Hans Dampf (wear quick), magic mary, Wild Grip R'2.

What are your guys thoughts on tires combo's?
  • 2 0
 @nicolai12:

With the trend towards bigger grips & weights all around Dampfs are a great option, at least on the front. 800ish grams for good volume and traction on a 29er works for me. I'd like to see a better middle ground tire than the Nobby Nic as I feel like the side knobs on the Damf & RockRazor are far superior. Guess it depends what you're riding. Magic Marys sound very slow and would be overkill on my hardpacked climby trails. There's something about a B-plus 2.5 on a 30mm rim that seems sorta perfect to me, but I've no evidence to back that up.
  • 1 0
 @Lagr1980: PLUS NOBL rims are offset
  • 4 1
 Maxxis has been making 2.5 WT tires for wide rims for some time now. The solution is already in place.
  • 1 0
 @dualsuspensiondave: aren't those only on the beefier tires like Minion? That's a lot of knob for my trails. A proper 2.5 Ardent would be cool.
  • 1 0
 @jfkusa: it seems loads of people are dumping them for super cheap on the buy/sell. They came stock on my stumpy and I love them, hell I even saw a pair of the carbon fatties for like 700 bucks, I should have pulled the trigger.
  • 1 0
 @JesseE: I believe so. You have a point there, however it seems like the point of wide rims is for traction, which the Ardents lack. A Schwalbe Rock Razor may be a good option with it's large side nobs for cornering, low resistance center lugs, and round profile. For a back tire of course. Magic Mary or Minion all front tires though.
  • 1 0
 @dualsuspensiondave: Well, the point of wider rims for me is getting more traction out of my existing tires. A softer nobby nic grabs better than a bouncy one, while rolling better than a burlier Dampf and being a lot lighter. I think wider rims can help you get more out of your tires and for hardtail users allow a little more cushion. I don't think that if you need a Minion you'll be able to run your Ardent a bit wider and get away with it. There's only so much width can do. Burly ass sideknobs can't be duplicated. I've tried smoother 3.0 tires and then don't grab in the corners like a dampf.

I really liked my RockRazor until fall when those little baby knobs don't grab through leaves & mud. Great side knobs, though, which I think should have been continued on the Nobby Nic.
  • 1 0
 @JesseE my application is a 6" travel bike. Currently running DHR II WT and DHF WT options. Ardents can't hang if your riding at speed through rough trails with embedded or loose rocks. With a wide rim, you have to add a hole lot of weight in comparison to running comparable DHRII/DHF 2.3 wheel on 25mm-30mm rim. Low rolling resistance, great grip. So why go any wider? The semi slicks are great for summer, but winter are a bit of a mess.
  • 1 0
 @nicolai12: Sounds like you're trails are a good time Smile
  • 2 0
 I kept blowing tires off front and rear with 25mm rims (running tubeless 2.4's Magic Mary F and DHR2 R) so I got the WTB Asym 35's. No more issues and so much more stable on rough DH. I agree though, 29-30mm seems fine for over 2.3.
  • 1 0
 The new 2.5 WT dhfs r optimized for 35mm internal rims. I had them on 23mms... so far so good.
  • 1 0
 @bradwalton: WTB seems to hold a tire very well from my experience.
  • 16 0
 Just gonna let this one roll
  • 30 0
 I took a spin through the comments section for this. At first I was like, WHERE ARE THE PUNS? But then I realized I spoke too soon.
  • 14 0
 @bikekrieg: easy man, let some people get their bearings first.
  • 4 3
 Getting a little tired of this stuff. Cant we all just stay true and talk about how great these wheels are so not affardable?
  • 3 2
 Im sorry. Im new to this game. I think Ill just stop right here.
  • 14 0
 Just the right amount of nipples...
  • 3 0
 @chillrider199: new products getting dished like it is "affordable"
  • 3 4
 Seems like you spoke too soon eh?
  • 6 0
 Another circular conversation
  • 1 0
 This press release feels as good as extasy on Ibisa
  • 9 0
 Lets talk about rim names for a minute.
I see what they're doing with the 7xx series being 27.5" and the 9xx series being 29". That part is easy, intuitive and sensible.
The next two numbers though. Somehow, vaguely referring to the rims outer width? Because THATS what people care about now? So if I want a 35mm INTERNAL WIDTH wheel, I buy a 741, NOT a 735? Because a 735 sure would make sense to this guy!
Then, assuming I've figured out the Outer Width thing; What is a 742? It seems to be a 41mm Outer Width rim that's ............. wait for it ............. ONE BETTER than the 741! Same dimensions, just lighter. Like 6 Minute Abs!
I like the idea of this new wheel series. Just dress up your naming scheme and it'll make more happy.
  • 7 0
 Was about the post the same thing - why name them for the external width when no one cares about the external width?
  • 2 0
 Where's the 642?
  • 9 1
 6/9 wheelsets are boosted...I am wondering where is the market for boosted wheels. IMO they are pushing this new standard a bit too hard: "Ibis is considering a 100/142mm hubset if there is enough demand." How many boosted bikes are out there?! 1in1 000 000?
  • 6 0
 As much as I want to agree with you and talk mad shit about Boost, look at almost every new frame PB has featured in the last month. Seems like everything new is Boosted, so if you want to sell high end wheels, you gotta make them fit on the new frames. People with older non-Boost frames already have wheels and are less likely to buy complete IMHO, rather than re-lace with their current hubs. Sad but true.
  • 6 2
 Ya, lost me at boost only. I was interested up to that point. I will do my best to avoid ever buying a boost fork or frame for as long as I can.
  • 15 3
 No 26, no sale.
  • 7 2
 Seconded. I'm really getting tired of seeing new products that close the door on the last 30+ years.
  • 5 0
 @dylandoe:
agreed. they would make just as much still supporting it as they would changing standards every few months. would love to read only reviews instead of press releases. honest ones after hard testing with no shite given by the reviewer to any mfger or audience.
  • 4 1
 @fullbug: screw ibis. go for light bicycle rim laced to hope .
  • 1 0
 @trauty: Or Derby
  • 1 0
 LB wtf, really, u dont care about your own saftey much, Derby all the way!
  • 1 0
 @Maverickdh00: people I spoke to had no issues with LB rims . Never knew about Derby. will check them out also
  • 1 0
 @Maverickdh00: what exactly makes derby rims safer in your opinion? different carbon lay up ?
  • 5 0
 These look nice! At $1100 the 741's are actually a pretty good deal considering a 7 year rim warranty and a 2 year hub warranty. Though I'd prefer a rim at 30 internal 35 external as I think running too wide of rim with a 2.3/2.5 tire exposes the rim to rock strikes. They'd be great for plus bikes though.
  • 4 1
 My personal experience with their 741's is that the 7 year warranty is a $250 "no fault" hoop replacement. They were kind enough to tell me they would wave the $50 wheel building fee on my 4 week old rear wheel though. Super helpful after paying $30 to ship the wheel back.
  • 1 0
 @rewob: so crash replacement is actually $330? thats not that bad but if your wheel failed in four weeks due to manufacturing error I'd imagine it would have been covered.
  • 2 1
 @rewob: 2 sets of wheels in 3 rides, I got to see rewob destroy them lol

get them pictures up, make ibis pay for the BS they put you through
  • 1 0
 @rewob: It depends, I had to eat that as well, but mine could have been either me or a manf. defect.

I'm not mad about it, but I do wish I'd gone with the option I had for Enve's for $200 more. They've got amazing customer service in my experience.
  • 3 0
 @Uberbob102000: Good customer service, Ibis? Not in my experience they don't.
  • 4 1
 @rewob: Nope, sorry, I meant I should've eaten the extra cost for the Enve's because of their much better CS over Ibis who was basically like "LOL get a new crash replacement".

I'd recommend Derby, Light Bicycle or basically anyone over them. Mine split right along the edge of a spoke drill hole and they didn't give a shit.

Short version: Ibis can eat a bag of dicks. In the business I work in, we'd make it right with the customer if there was any doubt but they don't give a shit.
  • 2 1
 @Uberbob102000: We're on the same page then. I was told "Wow, you must have bad luck. This never happens."
  • 9 0
 No 26" option though! WTFNot?
  • 2 0
 Seconded. Where the flying heck are the normal sized wheels?
  • 3 1
 @dylandoe:

Normal is the new Obsolete - these companies have to eat.
  • 5 0
 @endlessblockades: Let's look at the fact that we're just talking about bicycles, where we've grown to accept price tags which rival motor vehicles. These companies are eating just fine, and the standard greedy business model outline spurs cries of famine from those who aren't making their 20% improved profit over the previous fiscal year.

Shutting the door on 30+ years of products which had no issues is a greed-based business model. It doesn't cost extra money to produce a perfectly good wheel size that has been around for longer than most of Pinkbike's audience has been alive, it is at the cost of the consumer to have to purchase entirely new bikes if and when the industry can convince enough people that sitting 3/4" taller from axle to ground is going to make you so much better that you'll ignore the fact that their robbing us of the ability to choose.

What makes a bike better? The rider.
  • 1 1
 27.5 is the new 26.
  • 1 0
 26" is for Fatbikes only
  • 2 0
 @Maverickdh00: 26" with a 2.7 tire (which has been normal and available for over a decade) is roughly the same outer diameter as a 27.5 with a 2.3.
  • 4 1
 I have the 741s matched with a magic mary and a rock razor. Seriously the best wheelset ive ever owned. I cant believe the stuff ive hit that wouldve worried me using the enves i used to have. The extra width is phenomenal, and the rim exposure is a non issue. I also never burp this combo at around 26-28 psi and i ride in an are with alot of rocks. Love these.
  • 1 0
 How come Ibis rims worry you less than Enve?
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: cuz i cracked one. These seem to make less of a clacking noise when hitting rough stuff than the enves. Also the side walls are pretty built up by comparison
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Maybe cause the Enve's are (at least) twice the cost of a 741 if needed to replace?
  • 1 0
 @Crossmaxx: Nah, Enve replaces them for free.

@scary1: I wouldn't bet on that. Friends 741's lasted 3 weeks, and he never broke an Enve. I haven't broke an Enve either in two years owning, thrashing, and racing on them.
  • 1 0
 Well, I'm happy I sold my LBs before they cracked... Several people I know have destroyed theirs, including a dude who broke the rear on third ride on his hardtail and front several weeks later. The only premium alu rims I hear getting messed up as often are KOMs and Rydes.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: what are LBs?
  • 1 0
 @dualsuspensiondave: i broke out in the first 15minutes i had one. They did last a couple years after that,though
  • 1 0
 @Crossmaxx: that could be it
  • 1 0
 @scary1: Light Bicycle rims
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: oh jeez. These are not those
  • 1 0
 @scary1: I was talking carbon rims in general. Harsh ride, and costing 3x more than a decent Alu rim, already in cheapest form. Far from being indestructible. If I had an XC racer I would not hesitate, carbon all the way, no sub 350g alu rim can take any beating. We werejust laughing with my friend that nothing destroys ENVEs better than DT EX471s Big Grin
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: you know you're supposed stand up when going over rough stuff,right?
I love the stiff ride of carbon.
Mmm...that sounded wrong
  • 3 0
 @ibiscycles is on to something here! Have a read through their literature on the new Mojo. They are advocating larger tire sizes but not full plus/fat. Having ridden 2.8" Nobby Nic's on 31mm ID rims, I certainly agree. I personally feel a 2.6" tire on 35-40mm ID rims will be the sweet spot, and won't require a dedicated plus bike.
@ibiscycles: Two questions: will the rims be available for separate purchase, and are they compatible with procore now that the rim profile is ~10mm shorter?
  • 2 0
 Yes, the rims are available separately. It's on that chart of all the info in the main article - the rim prices are there under "price and availability".
On the Procore compatibility, not sure as we haven't tested it yet.
H
  • 2 0
 There must be a warehouse somewhere in the world with all the 26" components. They're just hiding them from us.

If it exists will someone drop me a PM, I'd love to buy all the stock from you and have an awesome garage sale for all the folk like me who still rock the 26" wheel
  • 1 0
 Check the landfillWink
  • 4 1
 The Aluminum option looked intriguing. That is until I read the chart, 110 / 148 only? I'd have to buy a new frame and fork. How does that make sense?
  • 4 1
 It does not.
  • 2 0
 is there an adapter or something to make a 110 / 148 work with 142? i have a 2015 bike and it's not compatible. i hate to be a whiner but, shit man.
  • 2 0
 The aluminum rims are available separately. If you have a hub set in 100/142 you would probably be ahead $ wise lacing up with your existing hubs. Rims are $99 each with a $50 no fault replacement price.
  • 2 0
 @hans-heim: thanks hans. i think that'd be the route to go then if the rims can be bought seperately. really interesting to see a company come out with an ultra wide aluminum rim that is affordable. thanks for the response, looking forwarding to starting a build with these.
  • 7 3
 No thanks. Besides breaking two 741 rear wheels in half in 4 weeks, 35mm internal width is too wide for standard 2.4 tires.
  • 1 0
 So salty.
  • 5 0
 @raybao: I could kill a snail by looking at it
  • 1 0
 @rewob: a Squirel somewhere in the world just died
  • 1 0
 The specialized roval SL fatties are only $1150 MSRP with really good hubs. Granted, they are "only" 30mm internal, but they are carbon and have gotten rave reviews. However, I don't know if you can purchase them without the incredibly stupid, short-sighted, proprietary-for-no-good-reason-other-than-we-are-Specialized-and-hate-our-customers 142+ rear spacing.
  • 1 0
 Yes, you can get them in standard 142mm spacing.
  • 1 2
 BS never have shitty Specialised wheels ever again POS
  • 3 0
 Happy with this well thought out launch. Looks like good pricing and quality all the way around. All the options look appealing
  • 5 0
 OK, who's using Robo-Comment Generator App ver 2.0? Setting: Positive Comment.

Edit- heheh sorry, but try reading your comment out loud to yourself in a robot voice.
  • 1 0
 @endlessblockades: Not quite sure if your response was worth the effort but good looking out?
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 "the 738 and 938 rims are laced to a set of Ibis-branded hubs that they say come from a small CNC shop in Taiwan" ... I hope there's a good level of after-sales support for this unnamed hub when it comes to servicing them ? Diagrams to download on the ibis website etc ? As a wheel builder I know how frustrating it is when even the company can't give me answers
  • 1 0
 We helped design and test these and they are built to be durable with larger diameter drive ring and driver parts, Enduro bearings, etc. We are stocking the spare parts as well. The basic assembly comes apart using 2 17 mm cone wrenches. We don't have service instructions yet, but we will make them up if needed. So far we have not had to replace any bearings or free hubs and we've been using these for 9 months or so. We just swap freehub drivers around to adapt to SRAM or Shimano cassettes.
  • 5 0
 *notices there's no 26" version*

*looks for another article to read*
  • 3 0
 Cool,so I didn't read any of it besides the itemized section that had no 26" option...so no,I'm not interested. And I'm still looking for a wheelset for my 26" bike
  • 1 0
 Stans ztr flow ex laced to a hope pro 4. Boom
  • 1 0
 I have a 2015 mojo hd3 with the 742 carbon rims, and snapped my rear wheel after about 20 rides. Not impressed. Clipped a rock at a medium pace, not that hard, with 31psi in the tire, heard a huge bang. Walked home a long way.

My local shop was great but ibis offered me a crash replacement cost of $480 for the hoop, plus the build of course. Brutal. Decided to try a new nobl carbon rim instead, as I have heard they are tougher, and certainly better value. I've been a long time ibis fan... But not anymore.
  • 1 0
 Had my 741s start cracking at the rim hole after less than 3 months, with no crashes or hard impacts. There are many documented cases of the 741s being weak and having design faults that allow for failure at the spoke holes and the valve hole. However despite these documented design flaws miraculously mine have the exact same result, but the cause was me of course not the noted design issue. These rims should be awesome, however I think they are QC'd about as good as any cheap Chinese carbon mass produced rim. You might get a decent one, you might not. Should you need Ibis to not be cowards and stand behind their product that you are certainly in for a disappointment.
  • 4 0
 Yes to centrelock! RT-99 rotors for the win!
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 These are HEAVY. The lightest in the line up is close to 1600 grams ... for $1800 ... wow! what a deal! And it is nice to see how the fuzzy math makes a difference in "67 and 65 grams more' for the aluminum rim translates in "250 and 245" more for the corresponsinf wheel set!
  • 3 0
 Fuzzy maths? Or just using cheaper heavier hubs and spokes in the aluminium wheelset adding the extra near 200g
  • 4 0
 make a F&(@# 26" wheel dammit, worse case i get a car.
  • 2 0
 Love all things Ibis but the Nox Farlow (asymetrical and ID 29mm) are hard to beat, IMO.
  • 3 0
 Can we call 26 "retro" or not yet ?
  • 2 0
 as a MOJO owner I am pissed that there are NO 26 INCH wheels in this review. sa....and depressing.
  • 1 0
 I was super excited until I realized they are not making the 735 in Aluminum. 35 inner is more than I want for a non-plus tire.
  • 1 0
 I run 741s with Project 321 hubs and love them...won't trade them for anything. These new offerings are great but Center Lock hubs? I don't think that is a smart decision.
  • 1 0
 actually center lock let's you use the Shimano finned rotors which would be cool. Why won't shimano release them 6 bolt like they did for icetech rotors ?
  • 2 0
 Up Vote for 100/142 AL wheel sets.


Down Vote for boost standard only AL wheel set.
  • 1 0
 I'll just keep my old wheelset since it still works as new and I don't have to change to any new "standard"
  • 1 0
 Pick + buy your own parts, build your own wheel set + save some money while getting exactly what you want to ride.
  • 1 0
 Sooooooo we're back to the 2003-6 standard of SunRingle 'Double Wides' or DoubleTracks... ...huh.
  • 1 0
 Had a pair of 741's, rear hub was absolute sh**

Put a Chris king in, best wheel set on the plannet..
  • 1 0
 did you have the I9 hubs?
  • 1 0
 @Ripper68: whatever ibis had as standard, some say i9 but i dont think they were..
  • 1 0
 @likeomg: oh. i find "standard" hubs often means "shitty" hubs. i agree with the Kings i just strung up a set of NOBLs with King hubs. cant wait to ride those stiff noisy bad boys.

that being said, i have a set of Enves (overrated) with DT centrelock hubs. i really like the XTR rotors you can use on those.

cheers
  • 1 0
 Jesus, Everyone makes wheels now I wonder which manufacturer in far East makes them so I will buy directly!
  • 1 0
 Ok I should get my closet stacked with some 26" wheels looks the ship is going down ....
  • 1 0
 Only Boost on the alloys!?!?

╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
  • 1 1
 $1,800 for bare wheels... Screw that? Just as outlandish as the bowtie frame they used to make and sell for $5,000! Smh
  • 1 0
 Where are all the nice wide 26" non fat bike rims and wheels??
  • 1 0
 I remember the days when people just rode their bikes.
  • 4 4
 For that price I'll save a few hundred and go with Roval.
  • 2 1
 'xactly and get DT hubs and stuff.
  • 2 0
 the roval fattie at 30 ID are quite good. Little worried about only 24/28 spokes, but so far so good after 6 months of AM.

I had derbies before (same width as ibis at 40mm OD) and they were too wide IMO - most tires I tried looked odd. Cracked one up in Whistler (DH bike) and wouldn't crash replace. Looked at LB for 26", but now on 29" Enduro bike.
  • 2 1
 NICE!!!!!!!!!!
  • 1 1
 centerlock only...no bueno

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