IOC Official: Prioritising Vaccine for Olympic Athletes 'Most Realistic Way' Games Can Still Go Ahead

Jan 6, 2021
by James Smurthwaite  
The biggest rockgarden on the course with solid crowds around.

Senior International Olympic Committee (IOC) member Dick Pound has today said that prioritising the COVID-19 vaccine for athletes is the 'most realistic way' the Olympic Games can still go ahead.

There are now less than 200 days until the start date of the Games that were rescheduled from last summer. Host country Japan is one of the nations that has detected a new variant of the virus that is thought to be up to 70% more transmissable and the country is reported to be on the cusp of a state of emergency after reporting a record 6,004 daily cases today. While vaccines are already being administered in some countries, Japan will not begin administering the Pfizer vaccine until February.

Pound stated that he was confident the Games could still go ahead if athletes receive the vaccine before competing however most athletes would not be prioritised for the jab in most countries as more at-risk groups like the elderly and healthcare workers are in front of them in the queue.

Pound played down fears that athletes getting the vaccine early would cause an uproar on Sky News this morning. He said, "In Canada where we might have 300 or 400 hundred athletes - to take 300 or 400 vaccines out of several million in order to have Canada represented at an international event of this stature, character and level - I don't think there would be any kind of a public outcry about that."

"It's a decision for each country to make and there will be people saying they are jumping the queue but I think that is the most realistic way of it going ahead."

The Tokyo 2020 Olympics are scheduled to run from July 23 to August 8, with the Paralympics due to follow from August 24 to September 5. The Tokyo organisers confirmed to tuttobici this week that athletes will not be required to quarantine in order to compete but they will not be allowed to arrive in Tokyo more than five days prior to their event and have to leave within 48 hours after it finishes

Thanks to @dolores for the tip-off on this story.


186 Comments

  • 172 33
 Yeah having Olympics during a pandemic is a ludicrous idea regardless. We don’t even know if the vaccine prevents spread yet.

Giving the vaccine to young healthy athletes is about the dumbest idea I have ever heard.

You know what would be a better idea Dick Pound? Holding the Olympics in a year or two.
  • 37 23
 It’s such a tough situation. A lot of these athletes earn very little money and their whole lives are built around the olympics. You cancel these, and a bunch of careers are done.

Alongside that, and not to be “that guy”... the way the vaccine works means that you aren’t injecting them with a nasty part of the virus like some vaccines. It’s merely a material from the virus that causes COVID-19 that gives our cells instructions for how to make a harmless protein that is unique to the virus. After our cells make copies of the protein, they destroy the genetic material from the vaccine. It’s not like it’s untested or a big risk, they’ve been tested on hundreds of thousands of people. I guess it’s a bit like putting an additive in fuel to clean your car engine out.

Ultimately, I’m not sure which side of the fence I’m on - but there is a lot of mis information, and just wanted to try and add some facts.
  • 30 54
flag blowmyfuse (Jan 6, 2021 at 11:33) (Below Threshold)
 @jamesdunford: Missus has been on site at a vaccine distribution site. Several adverse reactions which might be simple and simply irritant, but I would love to know that if/when people have harmful reactions to their otherwise healthy body, we would be told about it.

They'd tell us if someone had something bad happen? Right? Would they?
  • 6 9
 I couldn't find exact number of athletes, coaches, family and such, 10,500 athletes in London, so maybe 50k people would be attending. Even if it's 100k in the big picture thats really not that many. And, in a perfect world, they'd only be getting vaccinated a few months (several months?) earlier than they would be anyways. Doesn't seem that terrible to me.
  • 59 2
 Dick Pound
  • 22 1
 @jamesdunford: unpopular opinion maybe, but that’s part of the risk you have to accept when choosing to be a “pro” athlete in a fringe sport. Same as when they get hurt, and have to start a fundraising campaign. It’s just not a stable career.
  • 12 3
 @jamesdunford: Careful, mate. Adding facts can be a dangerous thing to do. You might get in the way of somebody's ideology!
  • 14 18
flag MonsterTruck (Jan 6, 2021 at 15:59) (Below Threshold)
 Don’t underestimate the importance of normal routines and ceremonies. We’ve all given up so much for the virus. Allocating a very small fraction of 1% of the vaccine to be able to have one of the most important world wide festivals seems like a fair trade to me.
  • 12 15
 @jamesdunford: that's funny...you put an awful lot of trust in a pharmaceutical industry that hasn’t earned it...just saying. The unstated assumption about the future of vaccine distribution is that pharmaceutical companies would be happy to produce and ship products that aren’t proven to be safe or effective.
  • 7 3
 @blowmyfuse: um, yeah, they would. And in fact any of us can go ahead and look up that info if we wanted.
  • 9 1
 @MonsterTruck: @MonsterTruck: some might argue that making lives feel “normal” is what lead to complacency, which is why we’re filling freezer trucks with bodies again.
  • 1 0
 Correct.
  • 11 7
 @gilby82: really? So they people being awarded millions for winning lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies are just "unlucky"?

And why the hell did I get downvoted for saying it. Big Pharma has watchdogs, regulators, whistle blowers, tons of attorneys and warning labels longer than a contract with the devil himself.

Why all of a sudden would we pretend they would be totally above board and tell us about people with side effects, complications or reactions? Science even builds in justifications for "within reason" if it meets the "for the greater good" clause in their morality code. And all that says is that human guinea pigs that have adverse reactions to scientific studies are data points, not human beings. They can be sacrificed for the greater good of society.

And yes, throughout history science has done some really bad things to good people & hid it. Maybe all of this vaccination stuff is completely above board, safe & great. But Big Pharma & politicians have established that it's impossible to trust them to fully disclose the bad with the good.
  • 3 2
 There are plenty of anti-vaxxers, all spouting much dumber ideas than inoculating Olympic athletes. So give each Olympian a dose that would otherwise be intended for one of those nut jobs.
  • 5 3
 @blowmyfuse: do you realized how much Big Pharma makes on vaccines? Nearly nothing compared to other pharmaceuticals. You get two doses of the vaccine, ever, vs. daily medications chronically. They are basically only made for public health reasons and the reason there is a vaccination injury fund is because rare things happen and those people deserve to be compensated. The public health benefit to society is far greater than the very few injuries reported secondary to vaccination. Since the profit margin is so low on vaccines, if pharmaceutical companies had to pay to litigate every complaint, it would not be worth them making the vaccine and that's exactly why there is the fund. Look up its history.
Yes, big pharma has done some shady stuff. If you think anyone is trying to hide anything in their COVID vax trials that the whole world is looking at and watching closely, you clearly have no idea how vaccines are made or tested and how side effects are tracked and reported. It would not be possible.
As to my original comment, here ya go: www.fda.gov/media/144434/download and www.fda.gov/media/144416/download. Safety info starts on pg 32 for each.
  • 2 4
 @jamesdunford: they might have buggered up their career, but at least they’d still be alive (unlike the old and high risk people who most likely wouldn’t be)
  • 2 4
 @gilby82: Great info to have & it may very well be "harmless" but anyone injured by it would most certainly washed under the tide of "positivity". You actually waive all rights to sue if you do take it. Why would you have to do that? Waive your rights?
  • 4 0
 @blowmyfuse: did your read my response? You can't sue vaccine manufacturers because they would just stop making vaccines as it's not worth it for them. They are not big profit makers. That's what the funds is for. If you're injured, you don't sue them, you make your case with the fund's administrators and if you win, you're paid directly from the fund. I'm not sure what you're arguing. It's better to sweep the 300,000+ people that have died along with those that will continue to suffer without a vaccine than the 12 that might have serious reactions?
  • 3 0
 @blowmyfuse: you’re so dumb, but keep posting because it’s highly entertaining to watch you continue proving how truly uneducated you are. Keep going, please respond. This is hilarious
  • 2 4
 @cuban-b: pretty tired of this website. Maybe you can eat a big sick sandwich and it can get me banned from pasting all at once. @danielsapp and @pinkbikeaudience since @cuban-b wants to talk me around every thread and lick my taint, I think it's only fair that you ban me before he gets my cock all the way down his stalker throat.
  • 2 4
 @cuban-b: to be clear... that's a BIG DICK SANDWICH. Another reason I need to get banned from this agreeable, virtue signaling, apathetic, socialist Pansy fest of a f*cking click bait website.
  • 5 1
 @blowmyfuse: holy snowflake, Batman!
  • 3 0
 @gilby82: I’m just surprised he knows how to spell sandwich.
  • 3 0
 @blowmyfuse: seek psychiatric help
  • 2 2
 @blowmyfuse: lol you’re my kinda bike rider. Speak your mind. f*ck their feelings!
  • 1 2
 @cuban-b: another intellectual elitist cuck. Make sure that paper mask is above that nose.

Cuck
  • 2 1
 @chrishaugh: they took err jerbs!
  • 112 1
 How much dick could Dick Pound pound if Dick Pound could pound dick?

Also, no.
  • 5 1
 A: All the Dick
  • 6 0
 Not a question of if but, how hard
  • 1 0
 C: Can't tell
  • 7 0
 1 Dick Pound = .453592 Dick Kilograms (dKg)
1 Dick Pound-force = 4.44822 Dick Newtons (DN)
  • 99 2
 I've heard very few opinions on vaccines, especially on the internet.
  • 43 1
 Well on the off chance that you do see anything, you can trust that it will be an unbiased and well informed comment
  • 1 4
 Double.
  • 6 13
flag jclnv (Jan 6, 2021 at 20:42) (Below Threshold)
 @n734535: I tried to post an informed reply but it was removed. Funny enough, just as social media is censoring alternative opinions, even by some of the worlds leading virologists and epidemiologists.
  • 69 6
 IOC wants young, healthy physical specimen to get vaccine before the old and the sick. Why am I not surprised those pieces of sh.
  • 12 33
flag blowmyfuse (Jan 6, 2021 at 11:37) (Below Threshold)
 My mom was terminal with Stage 4 cancer. Don't you sort of wonder what happens to the dose my mom would have declined if alive? Would she get to offer it up to relative she wanted to have it? Would they simply make her take it or abandon her on the steps and send to at home care? Would someone in a nursing home with end of life matters get complications from it? Is it for only those in care facilities who plan to only recuperate there?

Are we dosing people who want to die just to allow them to crap in a bed in hospice facility for 6 months more than if they hadn't gotten Covid? Lots of "nuance" questions I'd be curious to know the answer to how they're administering.
  • 28 0
 @blowmyfuse: I would think that if your Mom rejected the vaccine, it would go to the next in line. It's not a gift certificate that can be re-gifted which ever way you choose.

"Are we dosing people who want to die, just to allow them to crap in a bed in hospice facility for 6 months more than if they hadn't gotten Covid". I think, based on the first scenario involving your mom, you answered your own question. If they want it, they get it. If they don't, the reject it.
  • 9 28
flag owlie (Jan 6, 2021 at 15:04) (Below Threshold)
 Weird. and people who are getting the vaccine are still getting covid. Should be a fun one this year
  • 7 19
flag dthomp325 (Jan 6, 2021 at 15:07) (Below Threshold)
 As noted, it's a small number of vaccines. These are elite athletes who will be representing their countries. I want to see them race and I think it'd be great to see the olympics happen and have some unity. It's totally appropriate to divert vaccine doses for this purpose in my mind.
  • 11 0
 @owlie: ah, a common misconception, many vaccines (including the ones for C19) require several doses to be fully effective! Remember when we had to keep going back for measles shots? After the first dose you have a reduced probability of catching the virus, and after the last dose you have a statistically improbable chance of catching it. You can still catch it in between so staying safe and following protocol is your best bet to stay healthy and protect those around you. Just wanted to put that out there! Hope you're having a good day dude!
  • 2 0
 @GarbagemanDeluxe: several = 2. Unless the AZ vaccine is approved, which is only 1.
  • 3 7
flag bananowy (Jan 7, 2021 at 1:25) (Below Threshold)
 @dthomp325: You're getting downvotes, but I agree with that. I mean, the number of people we're talking about to get the Olympics going is a tiny drop in the ocean and realistically, if it turns out there are not enough vaccines for some group somewhere among the 7bn people in the world, it will not be because of a few hundred athletes.
  • 3 5
 @mammal: what I'm specifically warning of is that if a patient in a nursing facility or hospice care declined the vaccine (because who wants to get more sick when you're suffering and terminal), will the facility deem you a danger to the other patients in their care and force you to either take it and suffer more...or be kicked out of the facility to suffer at home?
I'm certain care facilities will do this. Not all of them...but if you're a facility facing lawsuits from all the other families in the building, you'd kick some poor little old widow out if she refused wouldn't you
  • 1 3
 @owlie: ...but the “experts” say we “need” it. All while pharma companies are exempt from lawsuits.

Enjoy the shot...and your paper mask.
  • 57 1
 And to coaches. And trainers. And nutritionists. And team managers. And umpires. And judges. And support staff. And cleaning staff. And hotel staff. And event security. And medical personal. And...
  • 11 0
 Exactly, that’s also assuming there are no spectators, and who wants an Olympic Games without spectators in person - it won’t be easy getting any of the investment back that’s for sure.
  • 18 32
flag blowmyfuse (Jan 6, 2021 at 11:47) (Below Threshold)
 New vaccine shot (plus 2nd shot 2 weeks later) every 60 days? Since the body dumps the immunity for the virus around that time. Or maybe 59 days...? 45?
Oh wait...does the vaccine trigger a successful immune response that 1st day? Or is it only the 2nd shot 2 weeks later that triggers the immune response?
But wait...you can still transmit the live virus even after receiving the vaccine even though you're not sick.

Wow...this is gonna be some hard math. I hope the exam is multiple choice.
  • 7 2
 I may try to get a job there and get my Bill Gates juice. Probably quicker than waiting it out here
  • 22 5
 @blowmyfuse: Scientific data shows multi level immunity response after at least 8 months from initial infection, but don’t get science get in the way of your tin foil hat tripe....

Multiple choice is a definitive requirement for the post truther -you need a number of different lies, alternative facts and opinion to pick up vs rationality, fact and science after all
  • 12 29
flag onlyDH (Jan 6, 2021 at 13:49) (Below Threshold)
 @justanotherusername: I’ve had covid twice this year. First discovered by antibody test in June, and tested positive in early December. I got sick in early May the first time. Less than 5 months of immunity. I also didn’t really get all sick either time, so I don’t see what the big deal is
  • 19 6
 @onlyDH: that makes you one of tiny numbers documented cases worldwide then. Well done.

I’m sure the families of the 3k odd people who died of it today in the US think it’s quite a big deal, pity they weren’t as virile as you eh?
  • 10 22
flag onlyDH (Jan 6, 2021 at 15:35) (Below Threshold)
 @justanotherusername: no idiot. I’m pointing out of that immunity projections are like shooting in the dark, and that we have no idea how long protection will last
  • 11 6
 Idiot? Really? is that necessary?
Let’s be civil
@onlyDH:
  • 7 1
 1.88MM deaths not a big deal? @onlyDH:
  • 7 2
 @onlyDH: sorry petal, didn’t mean to make you angry.

I’m just saying science (as in a peer reviewed paper) states that so far they have see a good antibody response in people they have tested positive 8 months ago.

I know how you ‘feel’ is probably more believable to you, but maybe over the next few years you may want to let truth and rational thought back into your life and move on from scamdemics, post truth, trumpism, Qanon and pizzagate....
  • 8 7
 @justanotherusername: Scientific data also shows that long term response to things like flus and coronaviruses show that the body dumps the defenses (whatever chemical and neurological reserve weaponry the builds up) after a max of 60 days from the time of infection.

There are vaccines that our body holds the code for 5 years and near lifetime, but these forms of viruses...our body seems to say "OK. On to the next one." but at the same, I see things (and science never specifically can state a specific reason) that indicate our bodies react quicker and more efficiently at the next exposure if within a short period of time outside that 60 days.

I have to assume logically that our bodies have something of an encyclopedia they stash viral attacks in and are able to kick in the defenses quicker and more effectively for a second exposure. To me, the biggest positive about our bodies is that, based on how so many blow the Covid-19 out of their systems without a trace, the human body seems to be familiar with this still of invader and it's not capable of wiping us out.

In the US, there are 3 Million more people alive on Jan 1, 2020 than Jan 1, 2018 and the death toll as a percentage of that population is almost identical. It does not take into account those who have complications from this new infection.

To me, most importantly, it will never take into account the additional sickness, illness, complications, infections, reduced quality of care, additional deaths from suicide, lack of access to treatment and/or quite literally loneliness of those dying in solitude or quarantine, whether that be the poor, infirmed or hospiced.

US Population on January 1, 2020 330,222,422
US Population on January 7, 2021 330,795,660

Death is uncomfortable. It is grim. On December 29, 2020 a drugged up driver wtih 5 wrecks in 5 years, a DWI in 2019 and revoked license hit my 17 & 14 year old daughters HEAD ON at 45mph. They never got to move an inch.
I watched it happen. They are alive. They are both hurt.
People are important. But masks on an already overpopulated planet full of narcissistic, obese, heart medication addled gluttons. Not even a blip on the radar.

We just keep on breeding and the world population is EXPLODING!
Right now, the US has a NET GAIN OF ONE LIFE EVERY 26 SECONDS!!!
  • 4 2
 @blowmyfuse: thanks for that, lots of opinion, almost no factual information, must have taken you a while, well done.
  • 2 5
 @justanotherusername: factual. There is lots of data to support it too. A tech guy even snarked me with a pic about " Mommy, why don't I get this type of infection anymore?" And her response being that it was because mommy had been vaccinated was." But it lacked context. It referenced a vaccine that our bodies build immunity up for between 5 years to lifetime.

Common coronavirus vaccines don't stay hard wired in us near that long. And yes, there is plenty of data to confirm that. Each year, a new flu vaccine must be created to mirror the changing strains and each year the response of our bodies to the new vaccine strain changes. They don't have specific answers as to why, but as early as 2 years ago, flu vaccine efficacy was as low as 16% and then other instances as high as 85%.
And yes, a brutal invasive bone marrow study confirmed that the genetic material we keep on hand to fight flu is undetectable after 60 days. Our bodies respond more similarly to COVID (not identical) as they do flu than say polio or measles. And yes, I did read these things in scientific literature, not Parler.
The trick in the real world is to apply it realistically to our daily lives. This virus isn't wiping us out.
As a matter of absolute scientific fact, if it is to spread efficiently and live on long term, a virus has to NOT KILL IT'S HOST so that it can replicate enough to continue spreading to others.
The original SARS burned itself out in terms of it's terminal killing capacity because it was so effective at killing it's host that it couldn't spread far.
  • 5 1
 @blowmyfuse: Thank you for get again posting a long winded reply almost completely devoid of any real fact. Way to go.
  • 2 3
 @justanotherusername: dude. I am a liberal professor, literally the opposite of what you think that I am. You are a legit idiot, as per the dictionary definition.
  • 4 1
 @onlyDH: Could you explain what a 'Liberal Professor' is please? You come accross as if you lack the basic ability to conduct rational thought, so its unlikely you are a 'professor' of anything requiring knowlege or competence.
  • 3 3
 @justanotherusername:
Wow. Button pusher.
Here...don't forget to choke on your self importance:
www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/08/why-flu-vaccines-don-t-protect-people-long

Just one article at a time for you to dismiss. Maybe I'll post more later when you've had time to be smug in another post and be antagonistic without offering any scientific retort or facts that say otherwise.
  • 1 4
 @SangamonTaylor: Help me out. I read that over and over. What is cumulative incidence referring to?
Also, it says "Covid 19 Occurence".
It also says "Each symbol represents Covid-19 cases starting on a given day;"
Is this chart referencing how long AFTER they had the vaccine that the person then tested positive for Covid-19?

The Vaccine Efficiency if I read it right just seems to state that it goes from 80% effective at initial shot down to only 50% 7 days later, bumps up to be effective in the 80s again after the 2nd shot and then in the 90s a week after the 2nd shot?

Care to make sense of it for us?
  • 5 2
 @blowmyfuse: why are you talking about the flu? Why are you showing me links to information about the flu vaccine?

Have a look here mobile.twitter.com/profshanecrotty

That’s will show you a study indicating measurable immunity response at least 8 months - guess what, it’s on-topic too, it’s about COVID-19, not Flu.

Xxx
  • 2 4
 @justanotherusername: about time you made yourself useful instead of antagonistic and smug. Beer

Will have to read later, but I will. I like data. I'm not a sheep, so I don't fall in line. But I also wear a helmet. So I have some reasonable bones in my body.
  • 2 4
 @justanotherusername: Oh...and in response to why I speak of the flu. Because Covid19 and the resolutions to deal with it are more similar in nature to flus than they are to fokking polio, which is what some idiots use to rationalize why we just gotta get a shot and somehow Covid will be wiped off the planet like polio.

Also, in case no one noticed. We're overpopulated and yet no matter how severe this virus is or how it affects us, we're still breeding faster than it can.
  • 2 1
 @blowmyfuse: stick to selling used cars instead of thinking you’re a doctor or PhD scientist. And you think people take your seriously LOL.
  • 2 3
 @cuban-b: oh look again...it's my ass grabbing, ball sack stroking stalker chasing me around trying to get one more grope of my ass before his tongue is all the way up my internet butthole. Welcome to the righteous indignation party and all your glorious erotic fantasies. I give in. I'll stop running from thread to thread and wait for you to eat my ass in this last post before I get the ban hammer from the overlords of our socially pleasant and agreeable internet post locking overlords at Pinkbike. I look forward to trolling me like I'm the greatest love of your life. Good luck in the real world touching my ball sack. On here, you've groped it too much though.
  • 3 1
 @blowmyfuse: you have only yourself to blame for your own lack or knowledge. Read a book for once.
  • 2 3
 @cuban-b: every time you chase me to another thread, it's just more evidence of how fixated on licking my taint meat you really are you obsessed little in between taster.
  • 3 1
 @blowmyfuse: you seem to know a lot about buttholes. What you do in your spare time is your business Smile
  • 1 3
 @onlyDH: you’re wasting your breath arguing about the this horrible deadly virus that has a 99.9% survivability rate. No one likes to think for themselves anymore. The weak rely on “experts” instead of opening their f*cking eyes for once in their lives and making their own decisions.
  • 38 0
 Sorry I'm only here for Dick Pound comments.
  • 35 1
 All we needed was a good Dick Pound solution.
  • 23 1
 Needle Dick Pound
  • 9 0
 "It'll be over in a jiffy, you'll just feel a little prick Dick"
  • 15 0
 Because the olympics is so important right now. Japan gets some significant debt that is by now insignificant debt. Some athletes have worked all their life for this moment but its nothing compared to all the normal folk that have worked their entire lives to just put food on the table and need to continue to do so. I cant even go for a bike ride an hour away. How can we justify sending thousands of people around the world just to have a run, chuck stuff, or ride a very weird trail centre.
  • 15 1
 So Dick Pound is suggesting athletes get a prick of vaccine?
  • 14 1
 so young athletes should be getting vaccines before the elderly. This takes real selfishness to want.
  • 12 1
 Well Dick Pound, Pound your Dick! Seriously, the greed (and the Olympics are ONLY about money) is palpable reading this hooey.
  • 9 1
 No more obvious sign the money grab is more important than the message of social responsibility, well, other than the crowds of fans at the college football games in my neck of the woods. If my misanthropy were ever in question 2020 has cured me of that.
  • 11 0
 When someone asks me my weight, I always tell them in Dick Pounds, not imperial pounds.
  • 9 0
 I wonder which vaccine he is talking about? The Russian, Chinese, USA, Indian, or UK one...... are all these except-able options.
  • 1 0
 That's a good question...
  • 7 0
 Good point. There is also the issue that a lot of athletes would be from countries which won’t have access to any vaccines before the olympics. And gating participation behind your countries wealth is not in the spirit of the games.
  • 30 0
 Russian. They've got the most experience when it comes to injecting Olympic athletes.
  • 6 6
 Not being funny but if I was trained to a knife-edge of physical performance I wouldn't be wanting to get injected with a vaccine containing viral DNA a couple of weeks before the biggest physical test of my life. If medals are won by fractions of a percent, who would take the risk?
  • 3 0
 @jaame: would have to be at least a month before due to how the vaccines work and as you sale potential side effects causing diminished performance but assuming it’s done in good time it would be irrelevant.
  • 4 0
 @jaame: Every walk in the woods, petting of an animal or meeting with people introduces viral DNA into your body.
And the risk an athlete takes on any normal training ride are orders of magnitude higher.
  • 1 0
 I'm not an antivaxxer. I know vaccination works.
My personal experience of them is probably much the same as everyone else, with the exception of just before I went backpacking when I had about six injections in a four week period. It made me feel rough for weeks after. I'm not an elite athlete nor a professional, but if I was that knowledge would certainly make me very wary of having a double shot covid vaccine in the weeks before an event which is going to determine whether I get PAID or retire.
The Olympics is going to get cancelled anyway. The covidera will last years I think. It's not going to be under control any time soon. Japan has just entered another lockdown hasn't it? The virus is mutating. The existing vaccines won't be effective for long. It's not a great prognosis. Sport is the least of our worries.
I wonder what will happen with the winter games if it manages to avoid a boycott on political grounds. I can predict what will happen. A couple of major countries will threaten to boycott over the Uighur and HK situations. The Chinese government will announce that they are barring athletes from those countries due to Covid fears. The games will go ahead with China, Russia, and a few minnows. All althletes and support staff will have to quarantine for two weeks and pass two Covid tests before they are allowed in. The games will be a roaring success. The CCP will declare the superiority of China's political system.
That turned into a bit of a rant. It's been a bad day at the office.
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flag ryan189 (Jan 7, 2021 at 14:11) (Below Threshold)
 @jaame: Vaccines don't actually work. Hang on, hang on...Measles as an example, was eradicated (largely) in the mid to late 60's because of increased standards of cleanliness and refridgeration - trucking, butcher shops, and so on. It just so happens that this was when the vaccine was introduced and the pharma industry wants to take credit. Before anyone yells 'antivax,' stay calm - nothing gets done with partisanship and zealot behavior. What we need is clear and honest science, which we do not have. Dr. Suzanne Humphries gives a great speech at this Virginia State testimonial hearing, and her testimony is spot on. Those who (really) believe in Science, listen! Otherwise, we just yell back and forth like morons in a kindergarten sandbox. Whooping cough, as an example, has become worse in California precisely because of the vaccine which is creating mutated strains. Consider for a moment that we are 96% identical to chimpanzees, dna/genetic material, and they live in jungles of heat and filth, and yet have been doing just fine over all these years. It's called an immune system, and it develops well, over the years, if allowed to do its job. Humans are the only animal on planet earth vaccinating themselves - IT'S BUNK SCIENCE, AND ARROGANT. This covid vaccine that some people are so excited to jab in their veins is the first ever mRNA, that will penetrate into your cell structure. It hasn't been tested (Pfizer and Moderna's tests have been totally cherry picked, and it's absolute lunacy - Pfizer's CEO sold 60% of his stock the day he announced the vaccine was ready - made $5 million in profit! - if you thought you were about to save the world, you'd keep your stock). Now, the Moderna story itself is a sham. Again, do YOUR due diligence, OR if you prefer downvote from your mothers basement - it will fuel your ego and sustain narrative. But, for those who want the goods and to learn that Moderna was actually a shell company, run by Gates and Fauci, and that the company finally got awarded the patent on this virus (yes, the virus) in 2019, then watch the videos I put below. Wake up people, this is a G20 reset. All nations (except Singapore, Switzerland, HK, and the tax havens are broke!) They've utterly failed since the 2008 crisis, just printing more and more money, and going into debt. This wuFlu is their only chance to push the reset, ON people's fear. Convid has a 99.98% survival rate! My family has had this, friends have had this. A stock broker I know has had this (68 years old, obese, chain smoker, huge boozer and womanizer - he was sick for a week, now fine!) No big deal. Yes, some people die, that's the paradox, and that's what justifies the wildebeest stampeding. People die mountain biking, people die eating dinner, choking on steak. But the survival on covid is huge (relative to world pop). Consider Spain, the U.S., Canada...all deaths are miniscule relative to populations, and almost all happening in nursing homes. Further, the PCR test is totally inaccurate (on purpose) pushing false positives. Elon Musk got 2 neg, and 2 pos in a 4 trial sequence. The U.S. and UK are testing on dead bodies too. Dead cyclist (with 50-80% false positves on PCR) will likely come up as having covid. they don't say dead cylist, or heart attack victim, they say COVID. It's a fraud!

Anyways, don't just yell and rant (unless you're a boy and have no manhood). Do some diligence. The video below on Moderna is all from SEC and U.S. Patent filings, all public data. The other videos are Dr. Susanne Humphries.

*If you care about Science STUDY IT.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsyX6bg73hc Part 1
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLteUgKjnKA Part 2
rumble.com/vb3hpj-truth-rfk-and-dr.-david-e.-martin-on-vaccine-corruption.html Moderna
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 @ryan189: Tin. Foil. Hat.
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 @justanotherusername: Use science, logic and reason. "When the argument is lost, they resort to slander." - Socrates. You have no data. You have no science. You are therefore being partisan and typing from your mothers basement. Watch the videos above THEN COMMENT LIKE AN ADULT. I have provided testimony from a doctor and vaccine expert, who is not a gaslit monkey from the pharmaceutical industry or "med school," reading books and studying exams, all prepared with data from pharma companies. Respect the data I have put forth, before you write tin foil. It's so, utterly, childish.
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 @ryan189: Tin. Foil. Facemask
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 @ryan189: I've looked into your claim around patents. Bill and Miranda Gates funded Pirbright, who patented a coronavirus related to birds (primarily chickens) in 2018, but I can find no evidence of a patent related to Covid-19. Can you provide evidence of such a patent (rather than people making unsubstantiated claims)?
After an intensive vaccination campaigns in the 1960's and 70's there hasn't been a case of wild smallpox anywhere on the planet since 1977, yet you claim vaccines don't work. It seems to me that you failed to use science, logic and reason when you made that claim.
We can all post links to back up our own opinions, that's easy. What I've yet to hear is how you would get all the world's leaders to sign up to this "reset" regardless of whether they're capitalist, communist, socialist, democratic or totalitarian. It's just not feasible.
Finally, two work colleagues of mine came down with the same illness, with the same symptoms, on the same day as each other. The symptoms were synonymous with Covid-19. When tested, one was positive for Covid-19, one was negative. I agree PCR testing is inaccurate, but would argue that false negatives are just as likely as false positives. If there was some sort of conspiracy, then they would both have tested positive to help boost the figures.
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 @justanotherusername: type away from mommy's basement. Science. Logic. Reason. Consider them.
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 @ryan189: Ryan, would you like me to paste the weird and unhinged private message you have sent to me going on about ‘bill gates’ and other such bizarre fantasies like ‘resets’

I think it’s time to give the interment a break for the day and stop trying to convince rational people into swallowing this special brand of complete and utter bullshit.

goop.com/wellness/environmental-health-civics/why-people-believe-in-conspiracy-theories
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 It's true that wild animals have never used vaccines, but also I believe it is true that there have been some pretty major genetic bottlenecks in animal populations in the wild after mass deaths caused by disease. To say humans need vaccines is technically not true, I agree with you on that part. If everyone catches covid, most will not die. However, vaccines certainly help us to reduce deaths. It really depends on whether you value human life above all else. An interesting juxtaposition. We love a sport that is inherently dangerous, and accept the risks. Certain members of our community applaud Rampage and other such extreme events, and yet believe we should be wrapped in cotton wool when it comes to Covid.
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 @jaame: Rampage is a choice man, catching COVID while out getting your food shopping (a necessity) at 80 and dying isn’t......
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 @commental: yes, watch this: rumble.com/vb3hpj-truth-rfk-and-dr.-david-e.-martin-on-vaccine-corruption.html

I cited that above. The virus was moved from University of North Carolina Chapel HIll to Wuhan Laboratories in 2016 by order of Obama (he didn't want bioweps being developed in America). Fauci, Gates moved to China (because they were dumb enough to do so). David Martin is top Patent expert in U.S. - everything he details in the abovementioned video is SEC and U.S. Patent filed (all public data). Watch the video - very revealing.

Not necessarily on your PCR comment. PCR is a gong show either way. It's just totally inaccurate.

In terms of G20, it's actually not hard to do. (I've thought through your point). You live in England it appears. Well, tomorrow morning people in London, Vancouver, New York, Toronto, Cairo, Lisbon, Melbourne, Medellin, Paris, Sao Paolo will all wake up and do the same thing: go to the bathroom, eat, then go to work. People all do the same thing, and are pretty much paying off their mortgage. Their movements are very similar. The G20 are just falling in line with what the elite are pushing. I'm not talking the 1% here, I'm talking the 0.1%. But, my point is, it's easy for all these G20 countries to fall in line, because they are all ubiquitously broke and desperate. They've all been printing money since 2008. Nothing's worked. It's all debt financed, everything you see in the world today - roads being paved and so on. Who's gonna bail people out? The IMF. They are the only clean balance sheet left worldwide. They have SDR's, 'Special Drawing Rights' which they'll issue to countries that fall in line. Don't 'play the game' don't get money! Notice, Ontario, Colombia, UK and places scattered all over the world are going into lockdown at the same time. Canada has 16,700 deaths in a country of 37 million. Peanuts. No need for lockdown. No need anywhere, with a virus that is 99.98% survivable. Consider the countries locking down, like fascist tyrants. Now, consider that the only countries worldwide that actually have money are Singapore, Switzerland, Hong Kong, and the tax havens. That's it, everyone else is basically broke. So, you can see how easy it is for broke people to dummy up real quick, and jump ontop of a crisis. In terms of 'moving' people to fall in line, here's my analogy: let's say I put you in a soccer stadium. Just you. I then launch an earthquake. You're gonna be real scared. Just you in the stadium, but it's still scary. Now, I put 150,000 people in that stadium and launch the same earthquake. All 150,000 people in unison get scared together. People are wildebeest; they munch together, they walk in unison together, and then they stampede together. What you see today are masks in all countries around the world - petrified, gaslit people. Very easy to do, because, as I said, they all wake up every morning and do the same thing. Eat, go to work blah blah. -We think our lives are unique but they ain't. Anyways, watch that video I posted above. Full details on Moderna (pre-Moderna) when it was just a shell. Fauci and Gates involved. Moderna was actually a cancer company before and failed all tests - so they went into vaccines - highest margins, and no liabiliy for injuries. Moderna only went public in 2018! The patent on the virus (yes the virus) they got in 2019! It's so insane, and nobody's paying attention (because nobody's paying attention). Ps. the 'reset' is in full view now - they were losing the PR battle so now they try and hide in plain site. Google it, there's a website, under Word Economic Forum (trying to make is sound legit). They pitch virtue "everything," but it's all about control. Ps2. Doctor in Florida just died from Pfizer's vaccine. Doctor in Mexico just admitted to ICU from taking vaccine as well. Google Singapore International Buisness Daily, get the deets. If you have any other questions ask me. Ps,3 It's very feasible to get all these countries to cooperate. They are all broke. They are ubiquitous in their need. And, IMF ain't granting any money for the rebellious. Ps4. I cant' prove this next point, but it seems sure as hell likely that for reasons of 'national security' having a bunch of old people die around the world equals less mouths to feed. Less pensions. Notice kids don't get hit. Next generation of gaslit are being trained to wear masks and say 'yes sir.' People are very predicatble. If you were the 0.1% living in Monaco, you'd be very tempted to influence life and liberty, and planet earth at large - do you know why? - because you can.
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 @justanotherusername: Post whatever you like. I cite science, and use logic, reason and fact. Webster search the definition of conspiracy. It's not 'Jason Bourne' if it's real. If you respected my due diligence, you would have watched the video I provided, and would have learned all about Fauci, Gates in pre-Moderna days. You'll know about the patents, the SEC filings. All public data. Anything else? I'm gonna set up a Patreon so you guys can pay me.
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 @jaame: Agree with pretty much everythign you say. However 'vaccines certainly help us reduce deaths,' is factually not true. Watch the videos I cited above from Dr. Susanne Humphries. As an example, Whooping cough in California went out of control because the vaccine was causing mutated strains. Just tonight it was revealed a doctor in Florida died from taking Pfizers covid vaccine. Another doctor in Mexico got admitted to ICU after taking the jab. Search Singapore International Business Daily (I don't pay much attention to U.S. or European news). This thing was fast tracked and the data from Pfizer etc was totally cherry picked. The fact is this: the survival rate of covid is 99.98% with 94.9% rates going to seniors. If we could go to vegas and win 99.98% of the time we'd take those odds all day long. You don't vaccinate for something with such an abundant survival rate. So, this is really about control, and depending how sinister one wants to go, I think this is about body control. Think about this. If the vaccine does indeed contain nano particles (metalllic based) and 'if' therefore your body can be tracked and traced, what does this mean about your freedom? Klaus (head of World Economic Forum), a term to sound 'legit' is a huge transhumanism fan as is Bill Gates. Gates dad was head of Eugenics society. Gates has also been piping up about overpopulation for years. But, going back...if your body can become the machine, you no longer have credit cards, or an iPhone. Your body is everything. Step out of line, and don't fit the social credit (score) system, and maybe your body (you) can't buy groceries. Maybe you can't travel. Gates was caught on tape saying he wanted an id chip for everyone for vaccines. He tried deleting this and then Robert F. Kennedy found it and placed on his website. Watch it here: childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/yes-bill-gates-said-that This is absolute chaos and fear being perpectuated on the public.
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 @ryan189: Seriously Ryan, and I mean this sincerely - look at the length of your posts, take stock of what you are saying and where (on a bike forum) and calm down and step away, for your own mental health.

Bill Gates, Bioweps, Elites, Obama, G20 all buried in an incoherent rant - there is no science there, no fact and your logic and resin is clearly skewed to fit your own conspiratorial viewpoint, last I’ll say on this but look after yourself man, seriously.
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 @justanotherusername: going out is a choice. No one has to go out. One can buy everything online. You literally don't have to go out for anything if you really don't want to. My mother has been for three walks since March, and has not been shopping once.
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 @ryan189: I agree with your points about the survival rate. I've been saying same all along. Statistically speaking we can afford to lose under a percentage of the population to this disease. Factually speaking they will all be old people who would have died anyway in the not too distant future.
The UK government pretty much said same last year when it first got out of control, but they quickly backtracked because it caused such a stink when people started thinking it was going to be their parents.
I don't want my parents to catch it. They will probably die if they catch it. That's why I told them to stop going out. Obviously my dad's had enough now though. He would rather die than be a prisoner in his own home. He only stays in out of respect for my mum who is more open to doing as she's told.
I want my kids to keep going to school though. I think closing the schools is a shit idea. My children's education is being severely compromised by this situation. One only has to look at the stats to see that kids aren't really affected by covid. Basically if you're under 40 you're safe. School age kids have no chance of dying.
As for all the nanoparticles thing, tracking humans and stuff. I'm not convinced.
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 Basically I believe in personal responsibility. If you think you're at risk from covid, quarantine yourself. Buy everything online. The government will support you. If you think the risk is acceptable and you want to carry on as normal, if you're over 18 it should be your choice.
And if I sit next to someone on a bus and they cough on me, is that not my fault as much as theirs? Why was I on that bus? If I was a member of a vulnerable group I should have stayed at home. Why make the 99% put their lives on hold to protect the 1%? It should be the 1% who are seriously vulnerable putting their lives on hold so everyone else doesn't have to.
The government should step up and support those people at home.
And why the heck is everyone so blasé about the social distancing? It's like people don't know what 2m looks like. All these idiots I see out and about on exercise making no effort to move to the side of the footpath to stay clear of others. It drives me nuts. I totally believe in social distancing. A lot of people either don't care or just have no idea what 2m looks like. It seems to me that those people are the ones who are going to get the covid. All standing around with their dogs, having a good chat. No masks, standing too close. If everyone actually adhered to the 2m (or more) it would be nowhere near as bad. I ask myself, how did it get out of control in London? Why we're all those people so close to each other? Why?
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 @jaame: Yup, agree. The nano thing, I agree with you two - in a paradoxical way. Meaning, I'm open to the theory, keeping my ego out - and my eyes and ears wide open. Bill Gates, is a sick f_ck. We only need to study his past, and what's he's said on open mic. He openly admitted that he wanted an digital id for everyone, and that we'd be able to know if they were vaccinated. Why is a computer geek allowed to drive pharma initiaive? One reason: he bought credibility by becoming a 'philanthropist.' These monies he gave away are peanuts to his overall fortune, but allow him to play god, and gaslight the sheeple who think ,"wowwwwww he's giving away so much money, and he's a billlllionaire." Who cares. Guy's nuts. A fellow (and actual MD) commented on the "vaccine" today - it's actually not a vaccine. It's gene therapy. It has no attributes of a vaccine. It's an mRNA injection that enters one's cell structure (first of its kind) and alters your genes. That's a scientific fact. I think you know this already. So, it's shady as f_ck and the gaslit partisans of the world are championing this because they don't want to be labeled and anti-vaxx. Who cares! We gotta stand brave and tall and do the research. Did you watch those videos above? Blow your mind. (Thanks for your input btw, by being a gentleman and honest and brave).
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 @justanotherusername: You have still not once discussed and science, fact, logic or reason with me. All you've done is character assassination. You have called me tin foil, you have threatened to post a private message I sent you (who cares, do it). BUT, not once have you discussed science, or provided any evidence to the contrary of what I've said. NOR, have you, it appears, watched the videos I've posted. The video on Moderna is FACT. Why you choose to ignore scientific and legal data tells me you're scared (projecting it back onto me) or your ego is entrenched. WATCH THE VIDEO. All facts. Then come back and discuss.
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 @ryan189: the last link debunks your crap about altered DNA

Moderna next: www.snopes.com/fact-check/moderna-conspiracy
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 @ryan189: Aboit the philanthropy thing, one has to laugh.
Here you have a man who is obscenely rich, and has got there by having an original idea and a lot of drive, determination, dedication and luck... And also has probably exploited the labour of his employees. Obscenely rich. Wealthier than a thousand men combined have any reason to be.
And yet, in giving away a tiny fraction of this wealth (created at least in part by people on or below minimum wage, on zero hour contracts [that they didn't have to sign] and even using slave labour in some cases) that man can be referred to as a philanthropist. What a guy. Instead of paying his employees a fair wage or hell, even paying them more than a fair wage, it's better to let them make the money for him to give away to something he thinks is more important than looking after the ones who rely on him to put food on the table in exchange, and on whom he relies to amass said fortune.
It's a funny old world.
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 @ryan189:

Gates next - the fake video you cite about him suggesting micro chipping people - www.google.com/amp/s/uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN28E286
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 @ryan189: go back to Qanon - conspiracy theories are for idiots.
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 The one that is for the virus that has the 99.9% survivability rate.
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 @cuban-b: I’ve been seeing your comments all over this thread and I’ve come to the conclusion that you are either an emotional fat lesbian from the bay area or a skinny f*ggot college student that has never been anywhere or done anything in your life. Make sure that blue paper mask is over your nose.

Cuck
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 @chrishaugh: big words for a little man
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 @jaame: you’re right about all that, but perception is reality in this Matrix that our consciousness currently occupy.
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 @commental: You can't patent naturally occurring dna/rna in the US, only modified or synthetically created dna/rna. Moderna likely has a patent for the vaccine, but it is not legally possible to patent the virus itself.
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 @dthomp325: The Pirbright Institute is in the UK.
"The Institute was granted a patent in 2018 which covers the development of an attenuated (weakened) form of the coronavirus that could potentially be used as a vaccine to prevent respiratory diseases in birds, including IBV, and other animals,"
The link below takes you to the web page where I got the information from.

eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/03/27/covid-19-fact-check-bill-melinda-gates-foundation-did-not-patent-coronavirus/2919503001
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 Pound and The Donald would probably get a long pretty well. Both solely concerned about their own agenda, and have absolutely no grasp on reality.
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 Not only no, but hell no.
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 Unethical. The lives of those at risk should be the priority. Fuck the IOC and their eliteist attitude.
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 Prioritising vaccines for people that need it yes, athletes are not those that need it.
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 I just came here for the Pound Dick jokes, but I learned a thing or two. Yeah, prioritizing the vaccine for the sake of "unity through sports" is seriously unethical. A slippery slope to the ideology that leads to the concept of "useless eaters".
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 So why would Olympic athletes be any more important that pro athletes, college athletes, or any other 'athlete' that provides entertainment via your television? Heck, and if these guys are gonna get priority, then what about everyone else that provides 'entertainment' too? How about actors, musicians, those idiots that sit behind a desk and tell you the 'news', and lets not forget magicians. Las Vegas show girls..the list goes on and on.
Gotta give it up to the Chinese..They created a damn good bio weapon. They single-handedly shut down the WORLD overnight, crashing TRILLIONS in economy, making people run for cover under the nearest rock. And they caught every single government with their collective pants around their ankles
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 Good point, 100% agreed we should prioritise the show girls.
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 Maybe instead of the Olympic athletes they should continue to prioritise the high risk groups and frontline health care staff trying to combat the pandemic.

I know the Olympics is important to the athletes, but it’s not gonna kill them to miss it.

As of this week more people have died from COVID in the UK than the RAF lost in WW2.
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 Is dick pound American cause he’d be a shoo-in for the next republican presidential nomination.
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 I read he’s Canadian, though I have my reservations as we rarely produce dicks like that
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 Uh, yeah, sorry, the olympics just aren't that important. The athletes can wait just like everyone else. What a clueless, tone deaf idiot this Dick Pound is. Go pound yourself you fool.
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 No, Dick. Not until after my healthy, vibrant, 84 year old mom gets it. She has earned her longevity. Maybe the IOC should stage a Senior Olympics instead. Then go ahead, 'pound' the needles to em'!
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 "Dick Pound that prioritising the COVID-19 vaccine for athletes is the 'most realistic way' the Olympic Games can still go ahead"

What my dyslexic a** read
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 If the IOC want to vaccinate the athletes that badly to hold the games, the IOC (not the athletes) should pay for those vaccines.
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 Well, fuck that guy.
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 Just read the headline....THE VACCINE is the saving grace of the Olympics??? POUND SALT!!!
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 FK the Olympics, just lost any tiny amount of remaining credibility they might have been clinging on to.
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 Yes think Russians have a performance enhanced vaccine ready for this announcement?
At any rate bound to screw up drug testing?
With the year of crazy, just about to get worse!
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 Damn, that one hell of a rock garden, there.
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 He really couldn't just go with Richard huh
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 To be fair to him, if he did go with Richard people would make Dick Pound jokes anyway, but it would feel more like at his expense. This way he's pre-empting that and pretty much saying "yeah, joke's on you; I'm Dick Pound and what you gonna do about it?"
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 Lol there was a US Congressman running for election in 1990 named Dick Swett, opponents tried to get his ballot name labeled as Richard Swett worried the American people would vote purely for the giggles, they failed and the American people elected Dick Swett. Literally just learned that today watching History of Swear Words on Netflix lol.
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 No the weak and the old get priority for Covid vaccine. Not healthy athletes.
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 Anyone remember when athletes didn't want to compete in Beijing because of air quality?
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 Yeah, no.
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 Vaccinate ioc bosses first
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 They are vaccinating athletes for one reason: EXPOSURE to the world - look, Olympians are taking it, you should too! Athletes are young and healthy, you can just tell this is a contrived exercise and promotion by crooked governments, G20 morons and pharma.

Watch these videos, downvoters, before you type from your parents basement. Science. Logic. Reason - use them.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsyX6bg73hc Part 1
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLteUgKjnKA Part 2
rumble.com/vb3hpj-truth-rfk-and-dr.-david-e.-martin-on-vaccine-corruption.html Moderna
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 Just have them compete via Zwift and Zoom. Problem solved.
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 DICK POUND
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 NOT a priority
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 MEMBER DICK POUND
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 @mtboaxaca don’t you have a rally to attend?
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 Did he go by Dick Euro before Brexit???
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 I think he prefers only dick
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 *Pokes head in to read the comments
"Abandon all hope, ye who enter here"
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 The legend speaks
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 Essential Olympics eh?
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 DICK POUND STRIKES AGAIN
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 vaccines don't actually work. Hang on, hang on...Measles as an example, was eradicated (largely) in the mid to late 60's because of increased standards of cleanliness and refridgeration - trucking, butcher shops, and so on. It just so happens that this was when the vaccine was introduced and the pharma industry wants to take credit. Before anyone yells 'antivax,' stay calm - nothing gets done with partisanship and zealot behavior. What we need is clear and honest science, which we do not have. Dr. Suzanne Humphries gives a great speech at this Virginia State testimonial hearing, and her testimony is spot on. Those who (really) believe in Science, listen! Otherwise, we just yell back and forth like morons in a kindergarten sandbox. Whooping cough, as an example, has become worse in California precisely because of the vaccine which is creating mutated strains. Consider for a moment that we are 96% identical to chimpanzees, dna/genetic material, and they live in jungles of heat and filth, and yet have been doing just fine over all these years. It's called an immune system, and it develops well, over the years, if allowed to do its job. Humans are the only animal on planet earth vaccinating themselves - IT'S BUNK SCIENCE, AND ARROGANT. This covid vaccine that some people are so excited to jab in their veins is the first ever mRNA, that will penetrate into your cell structure. It hasn't been tested (Pfizer and Moderna's tests have been totally cherry picked, and it's absolute lunacy - Pfizer's CEO sold 60% of his stock the day he announced the vaccine was ready - made $5 million in profit! - if you thought you were about to save the world, you'd keep your stock). Now, the Moderna story itself is a sham. Again, do YOUR due diligence, OR if you prefer downvote from your mothers basement - it will fuel your ego and sustain narrative. But, for those who want the goods and to learn that Moderna was actually a shell company, run by Gates and Fauci, and that the company finally got awarded the patent on this virus (yes, the virus) in 2019, then watch the videos I put below. Wake up people, this is a G20 reset. All nations (except Singapore, Switzerland, HK, and the tax havens are broke!) They've utterly failed since the 2008 crisis, just printing more and more money, and going into debt. This wuFlu is their only chance to push the reset, ON people's fear. Convid has a 99.98% survival rate! My family has had this, friends have had this. A stock broker I know has had this (68 years old, obese, chain smoker, huge boozer and womanizer - he was sick for a week, now fine!) No big deal. Yes, some people die, that's the paradox, and that's what justifies the wildebeest stampeding. People die mountain biking, people die eating dinner, choking on steak. But the survival on covid is huge (relative to world pop). Consider Spain, the U.S., Canada...all deaths are miniscule relative to populations, and almost all happening in nursing homes. Further, the PCR test is totally inaccurate (on purpose) pushing false positives. Elon Musk got 2 neg, and 2 pos in a 4 trial sequence. The U.S. and UK are testing on dead bodies too. Dead cyclist (with 50-80% false positves on PCR) will likely come up as having covid. they don't say dead cylist, or heart attack victim, they say COVID. It's a fraud!

Anyways, don't just yell and rant (unless you're a boy and have no manhood). Do some diligence. The video below on Moderna is all from SEC and U.S. Patent filings, all public data. The other videos are Dr. Susanne Humphries.

*If you care about Science STUDY IT.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsyX6bg73hc Part 1
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLteUgKjnKA Part 2
rumble.com/vb3hpj-truth-rfk-and-dr.-david-e.-martin-on-vaccine-corruption.html Moderna
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 Downvoters, use your WORDS, backed with science, logic and reason...rather than downvoting from your mothers basement. Vaccines are flawed and bunk science. Totally proven, but you have to be willing to think outside your gaslit world. Watch the videos above.
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 1 - If social distancing works, why do we have to wear masks?
2 - If masks work, why do we have to lock down?
3 - If lock downs work, why is the virus on the rise?
4 - If the vaccine works, why do I still have to wear a mask?
5 - If the vaccine is safe, why are manufacturers protected from liability?

Keep believing what other people and “the experts” tell you.

Cucks
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 Spot on, brother. The people are gaslit. The reply with egocentricity (rather than science, logic or reason) because their narrative is shattered. Vaccines have always been bunk science! The 'theory' sounds great, but the science and hard data proves otherwise. "When the argument is lost, they resort to slander." - Socrates. This is what gaslit people do, they slander and call 'tin foil' from their mothers basements, without doing any due diligence. Korea has had well over 100 deaths just in the past 2 months from the regular flu jab. That's NOT science. It's called flawed medicine. Humans, are the only animal on planet earth vaccinating themselves. It's totally arrogant and absolutely stupid. If, (a big IF) you want the real science anybody, watch these videos:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsyX6bg73hc Part 1
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLteUgKjnKA Part 2
rumble.com/vb3hpj-truth-rfk-and-dr.-david-e.-martin-on-vaccine-corruption.html Moderna
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 I guess this is what happens when Parler goes dark - don’t u Qanon crazies have jobs LOL
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 @cuban-b: “lol” says the grown ass man. ????You’re a f*cking weirdo. Do I have a job? Actually no. No I don’t. I retired at 38 and spend my time between here and Truckee, CA. Any more questions?
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 @chrishaugh: says the army surplus cosplayer
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 So it began.
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 Uncle DAAEENA WHITE where you at ! ?
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