Jack Moir's Intense M29 Carbon Prototype - Cairns DH World Champs 2017

Sep 9, 2017
by Mike Kazimer  



This season Intense chose to carry out the development of their new M29 in the most public way possible, placing the bike underneath their World Cup DH team members to see how it held up on the world stage. It's a tactic than ensures the bike attracts plenty of attention, while also allowing the team to put it to the test under pressure in a wide range of conditions.

The alloy version of the bike debuted at Fort William, and more recently, Jack Moir showed up at Crankworx Whistler with the first carbon framed version. Jack's on that same bike for World Champs, although it's been customized with stickers and colored hardware to give it a little extra bit of Australian flair.

Pinkbike photographer Cameron Mackenzie caught up with Jack's mechanic, Chappy Fiene, to dive deeper into the details of the new bike.


Jack Moir s Intense M29c


What's the difference between this bike and the alloy versions we saw earlier in the season?

We went through a couple different iterations of the alloy prototype working out kinematics, and the final alloy proto was to work out sizing. This frame is 6mm longer than Jack's alloy one was. What you see here is what will be considered the Large carbon M29, and it's sized more or less like the size XL M16, actually a little bigger, so it's very big, meant for a large individual.

Dean's still on the alloy because that's a medium, and we're still working on the medium size with him; it seems like he's pretty happy where it's at right now. Once we work out carbon layout and a few other tweaks with the large then we'll open up the medium mold and continue on with that process as we go, because every size is going to have a different layup.

Right now we're really happy with what's going on with the bike. The fit and finish is great, especially for literally the first bike out of the mold; everything is really nice right now. We'll see what the future holds, but I think we're pretty set as it sits right here.


Jack Moir s Intense M29c


How much travel does the bike have? What about the head angle?

We're still working with 180 with the RockShox fork, and in the rear we've got roughly 208mm, it depends on a few little tweaks that we do with the bumpers and such. The head angle is in the 63 – 64 degree range, it depends on fork travel. We've found that to be a pretty good balance, and we'll see what the future holds with the fork and other components as we evolve through this whole 29 downhill thing. As we learn more and start to play with more and more things I think there's a lot of cool exciting things in the future.


What's the story behind the new linkage design?

The biggest problem with the 29er that we saw was trying to get the weight bias right, and one of the things that we saw was that the chainstays ended up way too long. We took it to the drawing board and looked at current ideas, and played with our own ideas, and came to this, basically to keep our same JS Tune system that we've been using on the M16 but obviously a little more refined.

It keeps things tucked up a lot closer to the BB, which basically gives us an 18” chainstay, which is pretty good for a 29”, 200-plus mil travel bike. That's the main focus, but the other added benefit is the stiffness of that lower link and that whole system with the concentric BB. It's really stiff, and it helps a lot with the deflection and things like that. It's enabled us to play a little bit with the stiffness of the top link – we don't have to be as gnarly with the really wide top link.

The suspension design holds true to the M16 and our new Tracer and the new Carbine, but the hard points are different, the kinematics are far different, leverage rate's different, leverage curve is different, axle path is different, so it may look aesthetically similar, but it's a totally different bike.


Jack Moir s Intense M29c
Jack Moir s Intense M29c



How does the suspension setup for Cairns vary from other tracks?

It's pretty similar to what we'd run at Leogang next year, so it works out kinda good. The knowledge that we gain from here on this particular bike means we'll go in to that race ahead of schedule.

Shock: 550 in/lb spring
Fork: 7.5 tokens, 95 psi


Jack Moir s Intense M29c
Jack Moir s Intense M29c


A number of riders are running remote lockouts this weekend - is there a reason Jack's not using one?

We're still playing with a couple things with a lockout shock, but on this bike in particular it doesn't feel like having the complication of a lockout on the bar is worth the benefit that we would get on this bike. With the jumps added to the speedway at the bottom I don't think it's as crucial, he's all happy with what he's got now. He's just going to hold it wide and see what happens.


Jack Moir s Intense M29c

bigquotesWe're pumped, we're all excited as a team and as a company to push this bike forward. Chappy Fiene
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90 Comments

  • + 115
 SRAM: "Ok Jack we're going to give you a custom color X01 DH crankset just for your special bike."
Jack: "Sweet! Can I also get a matching X01 DH short cage derailleur?"
SRAM: "No, f*ck off. You get red."
Jack: "But my bike is black and high-vis..."
SRAM: "YOU GET RED"
  • + 3
 You actually complaining about Yellow Green and Red? Im not even mad.....Im disappointed. SHABBA!!!
  • + 2
 I think it looks good with the red rebound knob on the fork
  • + 66
 I would sell my kids for that frame
  • + 106
 Just wait a month and it will be 90% off in the online deals
  • + 6
 I don't have kids. I'd sell my kidney though
  • - 18
flag RedBurn (Sep 9, 2017 at 14:24) (Below Threshold)
 I would sell my semence for this bike (no kids yet)
  • - 1
 Yeahh
  • - 10
flag loopie Plus (Sep 9, 2017 at 14:53) (Below Threshold)
 Find random kid. Sell. Profit for bike stuff??? heehee ..... Oldest trick in the book, mark it up to $40,000...wait for 90% off sale...still gonna be $4000 frame only
  • + 35
 Don't feel guilty , I also would sell your kids for that frame
  • + 0
 @RedBurn: That wouldn't be too bad, would it?
  • + 1
 I'm already posting mine on Craigslist!????
  • - 5
flag RobertBro (Sep 9, 2017 at 17:38) (Below Threshold)
 @bmoore34: The best commet ever.
  • + 1
 I'm just putting it out there . . . . kid's are useless and worthless. They can't work, they can't clean or do a 'proper' job of anything, they complain a lot and they are just another mouth to feed. . . I'm sorry, but selling your kids will not help you get the M29
  • + 3
 I'm off to have some kids right now.
  • + 2
 Didnt have kids, but i gor some play money! Havn both just didnt happen...
  • + 4
 You'll need those kids to adjust your shock settings for you.
  • + 3
 @Waldon83: Nike seems to do ok with kids making their products
  • + 40
 No room for a bottle cage?!
  • + 32
 180mm fork to keep axle to crown and bar height reasonable. runs 46mm riser bars...
  • + 26
 yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahh
  • + 23
 7.5 tokens and 95psi
  • + 1
 If I put my Boxxer at 95 I would get maybe half the travel and not much sag...I'm not hitting World Cup tracks of course.
  • + 4
 @Snowytrail: I run 100psi ish and 2 tokens, 5.5 more is insane good on him
  • + 5
 Is there any room for air with that many tokens?!
  • + 0
 There's always one more room for another spacer.
  • + 6
 When this got wheeled out of the pit tent, the crowed surged towards it like a pack of paparazzi... So nice, photos don't do it justice.
  • + 5
 The green pinstripe on the inside of the left rear triangle isn't sticking in the corner which is killing me, but this bike still looks amazing.
  • + 5
 i think this is the first 29er that looks in proportion to the wheels....most look super spindly with massive wheels......v10 im looking at you...
  • + 6
 Wouldnt kick it outta bed for eating crackers
  • + 6
 Seat tube looks like overpriced modern art that I will never understand.
  • + 5
 I'm just embarrassed I never realized the m16 was named for its 16 inch wheels.
  • + 4
 The machanic would probably have fun time trying to remove or replace that shock
  • + 2
 Love the line of this bike so well designed with everything intergrated into the frame. You can barely see the rear linkage also nice that it finally looks very different from the v-10.
  • + 1
 It is good to see Intense experimenting with repackaging the venerable VPP links in a frame structure that decidedly leaves behind the Frankenstein's monster machine shop look. We have carbon fibre to thank for that, no doubt. Still, what has Intense made of this opportunity to move VPP based DH bike design along? At least one serious shortcoming of classical VPP DH bike geometry seems to have been carried over to this otherwise interesting bike. The overly long chainstays are still there and it seems that the problem has gotten worse as a consequence of the increased wheel size. You could be forgiven for thinking that the use of carbon fibre and the availability of wide BB and axle stance options should have meant that there was plenty of scope to keep the chainstay dimension in check but that hasn't happened in this case. It is interesting to recall, in this connection, that Santa Cruz dropped the BB concentric lower link that was formerly quiet a common feature on VPP trail bikes. It was dropped in part because it was seen as an obstacle to optimising chainstay length (and also it was complicated and offered no appreciable structural or kinematic advantages). It is surprising to see that feature making a comeback on this bike when the design compromises that it necessitates are well known.

While the leverage ratio curve has been quite good on recent M16 bikes further improvement in escalation around SAG, on the M29, would be welcome. For the moment, the picture on this is unclear, however.
  • + 3
 So, if this is one of their larges, does that mean a proper XL mold will be produced down the line?
  • + 3
 That Boxxer is crammed full of tokens. Holy F*#k. #allthetokens
  • + 2
 Such a sick bike! I wonder why the front tire does not have a name? Testing greg's new tire?
  • + 2
 What rise are those bars?!! Look almost like BMX bars - vertical shifter as well
  • + 4
 Ye-yeahhhh !!
  • + 1
 Looks like the bike I drew on my notebook when I'm sometimes bored at class. Never knew it would look this good as an actual bike
  • + 3
 Rather have the alloy mule it looked way better!
  • + 2
 that's one mean 29er down hill bike .
  • + 3
 Yeaaaah boi
  • + 2
 That kink on the downtube look terrible. Like it cased something badly.
  • + 2
 Next month on sale on the world wide web..
  • + 2
 Oh my Drool
  • + 2
 Yeahhhh.
  • + 1
 Carnt wait for the 31 inch wheels to come out next year !!
  • + 1
 The nicest bike I've ever seen so far Smile .
  • + 1
 It looks like a spaceship
  • + 2
 Looks Intense!
  • + 1
 Absolutely gorgeous ring! 7.5 tokens?
  • + 1
 Best looking dh bike for 2018
  • - 1
 Agree totally
  • + 1
 180mm travel fork?? Is that accurate information???
  • + 1
 and people saying Sam's bike is small..
  • + 1
 180mm travel fork??? Is that accurate information?
  • + 3
 Reduced travel for the 29er fork likely to keep axle to crown and therefore bar height in check with the larger wheel, though a 29er wheel does fit in a 27.5 fox and clears the crown on bottom out at 200mm.
  • + 1
 -insert shark based pun here-
  • + 1
 The BB and the shock sit very low... It should be a killer railing corners
  • + 2
 Bb is probably the same height from the floor as most other DH bikes but looks very low because of the drop below axle centre.
  • + 1
 "STRAYA" or "AYARTS" on the downtube? Or is is Strava?
  • + 25
 "straya" is a term the indigenous aboriginal peoples traditionally used to signify "down tube."
  • + 8
 Straya = Australia
Like Murica = America
  • + 2
 @JamesR2026: Redneck lingo 101
  • + 1
 mispelt STRAVA
  • + 1
 @darkmuncan: thats bogan life mate they wouldnt understand
  • + 2
 So rad!
  • + 1
 i'd like raw.
  • + 1
 Yeeeaahh! Nice bike
  • + 0
 Will be 650b option on this frame?
  • + 1
 Fuck yeahh
  • + 0
 @MikeKazimer : a bit more Info's about those tokens?
  • + 2
 like what does he do with the remaining 1/2 token?
  • + 0
 Sexiest bike at the moment.
  • - 1
 That's a sexy beast baby......

The PB wheel size nazis haven't made a comment.....

29"er DH is the new standard :-)
  • + 3
 I think the majority of people have just fallen in love with this bike and couldnt care for the wheel size!
  • - 2
 jeepers whats with all these 29er's is everybody too scared to be a real man or something
  • + 1
 haha jack would smoke you on a 24" bighit. This is just a dh bike with bigger wheels to go faster, get over it
  • - 3
 Looks like a Session.
  • - 2
 Almost as good looking as the antidote dark matter.
  • - 3
 I always like Intense bikes , the way how they look. Till now , ugly as F#ck !!!
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