Jeffsy 27: Size Doesn't Matter - Video

Feb 15, 2017 at 3:53
Feb 15, 2017
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No matter what people say, it’s not about the size. Because at the end of the day it’s never about numbers. It’s about the rad time you had. Go for the all new Jeffsy 27 or its big brother Jeffsy 29. Whatever wheel size you believe in: Size doesn’t matter – it’s what you do with it.

Riders: Ace Hayden and Bryan Regnier
Edit: Anthill Films
Track: Satoshi Takamoto (feat. Adrian Lau, ProbCause) - Gramatik


MENTIONS: @YTIndustries

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146 Comments

  • + 214
 If wheelsize doesn't matter then why make a different wheelsize version of an existing bike?
  • + 90
 You're missing the point. It's not that they're the same or that someone might not prefer one over the other, it's that one isn't inherently better than the other.
  • - 52
flag kubaner (Feb 15, 2017 at 5:23) (Below Threshold)
 The looser a trail is the bigger equipment you need. Riding a 27 down a huge piece of double track is like throwing a hot dog down a hallway.
  • + 67
 @kubaner: yea, you NEED a 36 for that shit.
  • + 9
 @BiNARYBiKE: But that's not true. There is a place for both wheelsizes. Situations where each IS inherently better than the other.
  • + 12
 Probably the same reason bikes have different colors and build options. It's called "variety".
  • + 2
 @kubaner: that philosophy has multiple applications in life
  • + 11
 @TheRaven: I disagree. Factors like rider size, riding style, and riding intent all make it near impossible to declare an overall winner in any given situation. Maybe if you qualify it with specific demands such as fastest, funnest, easiest to throw around... but even then it will vary from rider to rider. In any case, your point aids my argument that there is a reason for YT to make this bike in two wheel sizes.
  • + 6
 @BiNARYBiKE: That's not what I was arguing. I agree with your overall point. But you can't say that one isn't inherently better than the other as a blanket statement. You could say that neither are overall better, but there's no question that a 29 is better at some things than 27 and that 27 is better at some things than 29. This is completely independent of rider. But what I agree with you on is that both sizes have a purpose, and both sizes will remain popular to different riders who prioritize different aspects of riding differently.
  • - 10
flag Racerxd (Feb 15, 2017 at 9:11) (Below Threshold)
 @TheRaven: 29ers do not have purpose. long live 26
  • + 11
 So you can moan about it on pinkbike, and people can write 26 for eva, why else?
  • + 10
 @Racerxd: OOOHHHHH I remember 26. I had a Huffy in grade school that had 26" wheels. Oh the memories.
  • - 13
flag kubaner (Feb 15, 2017 at 9:51) (Below Threshold)
 Guess you guys aren't as sharp as I thought.
Dick jokes too complex for you?
  • + 2
 you pretty much stole the comment i was gonna write. glad somebody else noticed the irony Smile
  • + 3
 @TheRaven: @BiNARYBiKE: If there aren't any differences; So what you are saying is that 26" is dead because bike companies wanted to bring in a new standard to make more monies?
  • + 2
 @BiNARYBiKE: if it`s not better and no different. why is the question comes to my mind Smile
  • + 1
 @abzillah: Yes, that is correct. In the case of 27" wheels anyway. I mean i'm not saying there is NO difference, but I would agree that it's a zero-sum "upgrade".
  • + 4
 I too find the tag line confusing. In the bigger picture it doesn't matter...but to each individual rider, it does. Everyone that reads this ad campaign is an individual....looking at a specific product, for them, cuz it matters. If YT is just saying they don't care which one you buy, as long as you buy one...then ya, it doesn't matter...to them...haha
  • + 1
 @TheRaven: Agreed. Cheers.
  • + 1
 @abzillah: @abzillah: There are differences. But one isn't inherently superior to the other overall. I'm not debating 26, but 26 has it's place too. I think different sizes exist for performance gains and to make more money off new standards.
  • + 1
 @linask24: It is better/worse to individual riders in individual conditions. Never said they weren't different.
  • + 3
 @loopie: You nailed it, it's a shoddy marketing tagline. Something like "take your pick" would work better, judging by the debate this one has caused!
  • + 1
 @Racer951: Give it a few years,26 will be cool again and so retro. Then they get to make more movies, ads and whatnot and start the whole marketing and money making process over again.
  • + 2
 If they can throw on 27.5" wheels on a trail bike designed specifically around 29" wheels, then they just proved the point that this industry is a scam and the wheel sizes is bs
  • + 1
 @BiNARYBiKE: You missed the point.
  • + 1
 Exactly!!
  • + 0
 @Trials-FTW: I like how they are calling it "27" rather than "27.5".

Hopefully everyone else gets on the bandwagon. We don't need two names for it, and I believe it's closer to 27" than 27.5" anyway, is that right?

650b is a bit pretentious too.

I say, 27 should stick
  • + 3
 You make another size to see if it matters :p
  • + 1
 Because a 29er doesn't fit in a small hatchback.
  • + 114
 where is the 26er if size doesn't matter.
  • + 10
 You just need to run a 1" skinny tyre to get it down to the size of a bulbous 26er. Don't know what everyone is whinging about.
  • + 68
 They're in the clearance section right next to the tubes and front derailers
  • + 4
 @properp: according to your wife, its going to take more than one inch for you to make a difference Wink
  • + 37
 @poah: that's not what your daughter said
  • + 10
 @properp: If i could give unlimited props, you would get all of them
  • + 24
 @properp: given she is two its not surprising
  • + 2
 Where's the 12" if size doesn't matter
  • + 63
 YT sales must be doing alright if they can pay Anthill do make their ads! Money well spent guys!
  • - 18
flag b45her (Feb 15, 2017 at 5:28) (Below Threshold)
 a handfull of office staff with a big pile of chinese carbon catalouges doen't create a lot of overhead.
  • + 18
 @b45her: @b45her: Is that some kind of snobbery where you think YT are a lesser company to the other guys that do exactly the same thing but nobody says a bad word about like Intense, Yeti, Santa Cruz etc?

The YT frames are exclusive to them, geometry and suspension exclusive to them, they sponsor teams and riders in various genres of riding and push a huge range of various specifications of bike out to the consumer for almost half the price of the names above.

Why so ignorant?
  • + 1
 @Racer951: @Racer951: No one says a bad word about Intense, Yeti and Santa Cruz? You must be new to these parts.
  • - 3
 @Racer951: the german direct brands are still early days across the pond, i learned the hard way of the realities of their business model and after sales support. so will our colonial friends in time.
  • + 4
 The ironic thing is, Santa Cruz in made in China, and YT is made in Taiwan. Saying YT is made in China is like saying Donald Trump is Canadian. Or Mexican.
  • + 1
 *pay Gwin's salary
  • + 22
 A little bit awkward when your 'new' 27" bike is being left for dust by the old 29" throughout the first half of the video...

The Capra is meant to climb that well, so much so that it could be used as an XC bike (well, according to nearly every review out there about them). Surely this makes a 27" Jeffsy with 160mm travel completely redundant? I think YT may have missed a trick here. It seems they are only catering for the anti-29er clan. The ignorant individuals who won't ride a 29" because they're 'not cool' need to get a grip of themselves.
  • + 8
 exactly what I was thinking.... left for dust
  • + 8
 or maybe a lot of riders just prefer the other size, and aren't basing their expensive choice on such scientific logic as the perceived speed difference of two unequal riders in a YT video. Maybe all the past EWS series winners are just anti-29 clan guys too! lol. It's all a conspiracy!
  • + 11
 Couldn't have anything to do with the rider on the bike being better, could it?.... naah suppose not.

The Capra uses a 170mm fork, slacker geometry, weighs more and may have different kinematics to the Jeffsy - Its the old Bronson V Nomad argument and it probably does render the Capra redundant for many riders which may be exactly what they are happy to see.
  • + 4
 @Racer951: also gets all those capra owners thinking about a new bike....
  • + 3
 @graeme187: I suppose possibly, but they do still make the Capra and its no different to what most of the other manufacturers do every few years by updating a bike / bringing out a new model.

I think one of the 'problems' with the bike industry on a whole is how fickle manufacturers and customers are, every month the manufacturer will bring out a new bike, standard, geometry fad which makes the customer feel like their bike is now outdated scrap and must be replaced.

At least if you are that insecure YT wont take as much money from you as the other guys!
  • + 2
 @racer951 @graeme187: No way would I trade in my 160mm Capra for one of those
  • + 1
 @Racer951: if I ever get a YT it's going to be the Capra definitely!!! Jeffsy just lacks some guts I think!!!
  • + 1
 @DigRenno: I also fail to see the point... unless there is going to be a new Capra with 180/180 in the next year
  • + 1
 @endlessblockades: Not you perhaps, but there are plenty of people who bought into the capra and know they are overbiked - they now like the brand and are thining as @Racer951 says that their bike would be better with 10mm less travel and it's now redundant because this new jeffsy27 is 10mm in the top tube... just saying maybe not you, but that's the current marketing trend.
  • + 1
 @graeme187: I will give credit the top spec'd Jeffsy 27 would be really nice after rethinking abit!!! Smile
  • + 12
 Damn, I almost thought they introduced a new 27" wheel size standard. Because 27.5" is for Capra and 26" is for Lacondeguy.
  • + 10
 The best bike is that one that makes you feel like your riding like the very best ones out there. That's it. Size doesn't matter.
Beer
  • + 11
 That slab though
  • + 8
 Who gives a shit about the bike, I want to be called Ace..... Preferably Ace Wingspan. Or Ace Hole....
  • + 1
 His IG is @aceslayden... as if there was even room for improvement.
  • + 10
 Good vibe to the video.
  • + 4
 Ripper bikes too - my boys alloy Jeffsy is amazeballs, comparing to a dialed hightower C w/ Fox 36. The YT suspension is on point and it pedals at least as good.

As far as post sale homie had the opposite experience; he had a rear pivot bolt come out (hes from BmX, didnt know to check 'em) and they shipped him some trouble free.

Also, they pay for Gwin. So that.
  • + 7
 I wonder if YT can tell my Mrs that too...
  • + 7
 if size doesn't matter, then where's my 26 inch Jeffsy?
  • + 6
 Am I the only one whose was hoping for a Capra 29 announcement?
  • + 2
 Ya man, I was hoping for that as well!
  • + 3
 with a water bottle holder
  • + 1
 Me too!
  • + 2
 "size doesn't matter" - bike industry. "Why can't we have 26" wheels then?" - Bikers. "Oh cause that size isn't effective."- bike industry. BOI. yall just said it's how you use the wheel and the size doesn't matter! Give me back my 26ers!
Don't listen to me though im just a triggered freerider.
  • + 2
 Usually the bigger the truck, and the bigger the tires on that truck, the smaller the penis size according to psychologists. A need to compensate for lack of size. I wonder if this applies to 29ers? I'll assume all those thumbing me down will be those with a small penis.
  • + 2
 Why make it in two sizes? The market dictates what wheel to build around and for now both are needed in their line up. Some are using one model avail in both wheel so and others like Yeti have a specific frame for each bike. Trek now has their Slash 29er and the Remedy 27.5. Sales dept will point the direction they need to be goin "trend" wise. That being said I am still 26ing on a SB66c with a big smile on every ride. May try a 29er this season as I have the means to buy what ever I want.....but I measure my bikes performance by how big a ride smile it puts on face not by anything else.....and no I don't f around with strava type stuff as that not why I ride....after 30yrs on Mbikes I measure how high/smiley/ each trail/ride makes me feel....then repeat asap. I gotta go now and try and find some 26er tires to order online ....seems the LBS no longer has much of a selection lol.
  • + 6
 Pick a wheel size and be a dick about it
  • + 5
 Ace Hayden = Power Name

Like Max Power, James Bond, and Jack Bauer!
  • + 5
 At least the Dodge had his tow mirrors folded in...
  • + 1
 Stepping on the wheel to get a leg up...... Somebody help Ace out. Maybe get him a step ladder or tell him it's ok to put your foot on the tire. Better line choice next time. Hahaha
  • + 3
 If wheel size doesn't matter, then why do I want a 26" one over the two gooftard sizes? Ô.o
  • + 1
 Somehow that reminds me of the Steve / Ian: Videos iframe width='500' height='281' src='http://www.pinkbike.com/v/embed/257522/?colors=c80000' allowfullscreen frameborder='0'>/iframe>
  • + 3
 Well if ya watch the video the 29 looks faster than the 27 Smile Just sayin........
  • + 3
 Man invented wheel. Man invented different size wheels.
  • + 2
 ...But if size doesn't matter... why went everyone from 26" to 650B? Stop playing with my feelings, Mountainbike Industry Frown
  • + 1
 (Joke warning) Do Americans still measure things in feet? or is it miles i can never remember. : p It looks like that Pickup truck was designed with an aircraft DME!
  • + 1
 I was waiting for YT to start produce decent videos, like some other brands do, and here it is, well done! Makes you want go out and ride.
  • + 2
 You clearly have not seen their world cup race coverage YT Mob videos, arguably the best team videos each race.
  • + 1
 Adaptable wheels is where its at, maybe this will be the future:

gizmodo.com/expanding-wheels-cover-every-type-of-terrain-1694692293
  • + 1
 I thought that 29 er defiantly looked like it was cruising easier over the down hill chatter . Just me opinion of course ????
  • + 0
 Rather than having two of the same bikes with different wheelsizes, they should have just made their 29er version 25.7+ compatible. Another reason why the Hightower is still a better bike IMHO.
  • + 2
 You could buy a decently specced 29 and 27.5 Jeffsy in the UK for the price of one Hightower though, and not everybody wants to use huge, heavy, flexy plus size tyres.
  • + 2
 Man, did you see the 29er just pulling away at 1:28...
  • + 3
 29ers. Still gay.
  • + 1
 I don't care about the size of the wheels, but man, I really coud use a house like this one.
  • + 1
 Good fun vid and that has to be the first time I've ever heard a good electric guitar solo mated to a rap track!
  • + 2
 Did Specialized film this?
  • + 2
 I would go for the Daihatsu Hijet over the Dodge Ram any day. Smile
  • + 1
 I can see the slabs @ 2.40 from my house-they are covered in snow for a few more days
  • + 1
 Great vid great production great bike great locations out my front door blah blah just great no really very cool.
  • + 2
 Mama said 29ers are for posers
  • + 0
 And she is damn right.
  • + 2
 All that video has done is make me want a 29er
  • + 1
 I know my 27.5 is faster but its a bit boring and easy. still had way more fun on 26.
  • + 1
 Would of had me if it was a long travel 29er. Got a 2017 Specialized Enduro instead.
  • + 1
 Man I miss Squamish. Hope this rainstorm can strip all the snow away. But leave some at Whistler too please ha.
  • + 2
 More trail bike edits in BC please!
  • + 2
 Size doesn't matter? This must be what their girlfriend told them...
  • + 2
 Yup, it is what you do with it.
  • + 2
 @vinay:
Keep telling yourself that m8 Wink
  • + 1
 They just released the 27 to justify releasing a capra 29'er in the near future, since it's where the industry is going
  • + 2
 Nice video, good vibes, nice muddy weather.
  • + 2
 The bike you buy after the Capra and just before the Jeffsy 29er.....
  • + 2
 Seriously good looking bikes!
  • + 2
 if size doesn't matter, why make a version in a different size.
  • - 1
 Size matters, its just the faster one for most riding is also less fun (well, just harder to throw around in the air). So YT, -1 for lying. Bad YT! bad!
  • + 1
 What trail is this? Sick edit!
  • + 1
 Where's the 24 x 3.0 rear at?
  • + 1
 Does that mean a 29er Capra is in the works??
  • + 1
 its about how you use it.
  • + 1
 I'm going for a ride on a bike
  • + 1
 I don't care about size. I just wanna know the trail name.
  • + 1
 Smaller wheels are easier to jump with better control for DH.
  • + 1
 Does anybody know where this was shot?
  • + 2
 Squamish
  • + 1
 Awesome video, I laughed ! Creative and fun.
  • + 1
 Where can I get those espresso cups!?
  • + 1
 "Size doesn't matter" yeah tell that to a guy w/a really small penis.
  • + 2
 So 29 capra next?
  • + 1
 I have two 29ers and one 26 and 27.5+ I like them all.
  • + 1
 Wheels sizes ?
  • + 0
 seems crazy not to use the top end models for the promo video??
  • + 3
 Both riders are sponsored by Rockshox for suspension...
  • + 5
 @Nahguavkire: the red one's got fox suspension doe
  • + 0
 @drewstinky: Huhh? That's weird? Thought he was sponsored by Rockshox?
  • + 1
 *27.5
  • + 1
 size does matter
  • - 1
 most of the riding was sweet but every time they were climbing it looked incredibly awkward
  • - 2
 Love this! as a 27.5 guy I can say there is some truth to the hyper masculinity depicted in the intro and 29er dudes are all a little weird hahaha.
  • - 1
 I don't know if it's just me, but the 29 looks damn faster than the 27.
  • - 1
 Shame there after sales isn't as good as there Promotion videos...
  • + 5
 CS is killer in the USA! Zinktastic in fact.
  • + 1
 Their...not there....your welcome.
  • + 1
 @sean9002: you're welcome...
  • - 1
 29 for life!
  • - 1
 That's what she said
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