Tech From the Pits - Leogang World Cup DH 2018

Jun 7, 2018
by Ross Bell  
With two World Cup race weekends back to back, teams have had a mad dash to pack up in Fort William and get trucking to Leogang, Austria, to assemble the pits and attending to bikes. The rocks of Losinj and Fort William are a distant memory, with the return to Leogang bike park and the tight racing that always goes down here. It looks like there has been plenty of changes up on the track, too, with grass and off-camber turns set to challenge riders more than previous years. It'll be interesting to see how bike setup develops through the weekend as lines are cut in and thunderstorms roll through in the afternoon.


Kiran MacKinnon s Santa Cruz V10.
Kiran MacKinnon's Santa Cruz V10.


The Boxxer centre has come a long way
The BoXXer has come a long way since its debut.


 Kashima. Thursday is the busiest day of the weekend for the race support crews with riders and teams swarming to get forks and shocks serviced.
So. Much. Kashima. Thursday is the busiest day of the week for the race support crews, with riders and teams swarming to get forks and shocks serviced.


FOX race technician Jordi gets to work on one of many fork services today.
Fox technician Jordi gets to work on one of many fork services jobs for the day.


Ti bolt bling for Brendan s proto SCOTT gt
Titanium bolt bling for Brendan's prototype Scott.
The satisfyingly tidy work space of Gavin Black mechanic for Brendan Fairclough.
The satisfyingly tidy workspace of Gavin Black, mechanic for Brendan Fairclough.


Gee Atherton prefers the feel of glued wired on grips instead of lockons.
Gee Atherton prefers the feel of glued and wired-on grips instead of lock-ons.


Prepping for mud in the Giant pits.
Prepping for mud in the Giant pits.


Faustin Figaret going for a firmer shock tune this weekend.
Faustin Figaret is going with a firmer shock tune this weekend.


Frame detail on the Pivot 29er.
A closer look at the details on Pivot's 29er downhill bike.
Some teams opted to strip down bikes completely whilst others were content with leaving as is given Fort William was dry.
Some teams opted to completely strip down bikes while others were content with leaving as is given that Fort William was a dry race.


Connor Fearon s flat pedals have some rather chunky looking pins.
Connor Fearon's flat pedals have some rather chunky looking pins.


Kona junior Anthony Poulson s Operator.
Kona junior Anthony Poulson's Operator.


Each tire that is mounted on Blenki s bike is balanced which apparently is something he is super sensitive too.
Each complete wheel that's mounted on Blenki's bike is balanced, which is apparently something he's quite sensitive about.


Details.
Details.


All the Norco boys are running Schwalbe s Procore front and rear.
All the Norco boys are running Schwalbe's ProCore system front and rear.


A lot of riders at the top end of this sport can be super sensitive to small changes in their setups. Nothing is left to chance in the Trek pits.
A lot of riders at the top end of this sport can be very sensitive to small changes in their setups. Nothing is left to chance in the Trek pits.


Leogang should be a lot kinder to wheels and tires than the first two rounds in Croatia and Fort William.
Leogang should be a lot kinder to wheels and tires than Croatia and Fort William.
Linkage detail on Alex Marin s Saracen Myst.
Linkage detail on Alex Marin's Saracen Myst.


Bearings getting a fresh dose of grease.
Bearings getting a fresh dose of grease.


Rear end detail on the Commencal Supreme.
Rear-end detail on the Commencal Supreme.


The Intense boys are now sporting ENVE s new M9 handlebar.
The Intense boys are now sporting ENVE's new M9 handlebar.


Dean Lucas and his red hot Intense M29
Dean Lucas and his red hot Intense M29.


Grip tape on the shifter of leading junior rider Thibaut Daprela.
Grip tape on the shift paddle of leading junior rider Thibaut Daprela.
Foam in the depths of a Commencal Supreme frame to keep mud at bay.
Foam in the depths of a Commencal Supreme frame to keep mud from sticking around.


A shiny Chris King hub ready to be laced.
A shiny Chris King hub ready to be laced up.


Santa Cruz are experimenting with 2 different linkages with one apparently lengthening out the rear by 8mm.
Santa Cruz is experimenting with two different linkages, with one apparently lengthening the rear of the bike by 8mm.


Definitely not production.


The chainguide mounts on the new V10 is super neat.
The new V10's chain guide mounts.


Dougy Luca s mechanic fitting a new fender in preparation for the potentially muddy conditions up on the hill tomorrow.
Dougy, Luca Shaw's mechanic, fitting a new fender in preparation for the potentially muddy conditions up on the hill tomorrow.


Aaron Pelttari gets to work on a service of Troy s Boxxers.
Aaron Pelttari gets to work on a service of Troy's forks.


Mark Wallace s Sender gets a fresh brake bleed.
Mark Wallace's Sender gets a fresh brake bleed.


Fresh rubber laying in wait in the Canyon pits.
Fresh rubber laying in wait in the Canyon pits.
They re stocked to the brim with Mavic wheels too.
They're stocked to the brim with Mavic wheels, too.


Slammed stack height on Laurie Greenland s Summum...
Slammed stack height on Laurie Greenland's Summum...
... and a shorter wheelbase too.
... and the short wheelbase setting.


A Mondraker Summum waiting for action.


The first of the new Hans Dampf we ve spotted in the pits.
The first of the new Schwalbe Hans Dampf tire that we've seen in the pits.


The prototype 29 DT Swiss wheels we have seen throughout the pits since last year looked to have taken their final form as a 29 option of the FR1950 wheels already available in 27.5 .
The prototype DT Swiss 29'' wheels that have been in the pits since last year look to have taken their final form as a 29er option for the FR1950 wheelset already available in 27.5".


Jack Reading is running a Joker themed frame wrap this weekend.
Jack Reading is running a Joker-themed frame wrap this weekend.


Cut spikes were on the cards this afternoon in the GT pits.
Cut spikes were on the cards this afternoon in the GT pits.


Wyn Masters top cap.
Wyn Masters' top cap.


Top secret...
Top secret...


Adam Brayton has been running a new custom colourway since Fort Bill.
Adam Brayton has been running a new custom colorway since Fort Bill.


The Keswick Kestrel s brake levers.
The Keswick Kestrel's brake levers.


The golden ticket of suspension getting prepped for the weekend in Leogang.
The golden ticket of suspension getting prepped for the weekend in Leogang.


Also in all white if gold is not your thing.
Also in all white if gold isn't your thing.


Some custom colors from 100 for the World Champ.
Some custom colors from 100% for the World Champ.


Miranda Miller is struggling with a wrist injury and hand strength for has switched to flatter Magura levers and a bit of grip tape for this round.
Miranda Miller is struggling with a wrist injury and hand strength, so has switched to flatter Magura levers and a bit of grip tape for this round.
The Magura levers on Finn Iles bike for comparison sake.
The Magura levers on Finn Iles bike for comparison.


MENTIONS: @santacruzbicycles @SramMedia @foxracingshox @giantbicycles @pivotcycles @konaworld @norcobicycles @schwalbe @trek @SaracenBikes @COMMENCALbicycles @intensecyclesusa @ENVE @Magura



155 Comments

  • + 86
 in a sea of gorgeous bikes that Nicolai looks like it's got ebola
  • + 6
 Why so sad? ..............
  • + 3
 I was thinking the same. Obv an amazing bike.. but so archaic in comparison to some of the smoother lines out there now!
  • + 18
 Why so serious?
  • + 31
 I really miss the structural art that were alu bikes at thier best. Glad Nicolai are still here to remind us of it. Hope there is always that option going forward.
  • + 4
 yeah, but how sick is that machined piece on the Pivot frame?
  • + 1
 @shankes3: Its pretty sick , mmm after a close inspection , i looks like two half's machined out and then welded together.
  • + 0
 @SramMedia Not producing a 20th anniversary Limited Edition Boxxer for pro riders like you did 10 years ago or even doing a limited run for the public is so disappointing, especially when talking about the boxer you mention history so many times.
  • + 5
 Kiran MacKinnon's Santa Cruz V10 is possibly the best looking bike ever made!
  • + 36
 The M29 is by far the best looking bike of the bunch.
  • + 41
 I dunno. That all white V10 has me all sorts of tickled.
  • + 9
 Norco all the way
  • - 6
flag Iam106racing (Jun 7, 2018 at 14:41) (Below Threshold)
 Cause merica!
  • + 1
 Agreed. It looks freakin’ badass.
  • + 2
 The Scott neon splatter paint too
  • + 6
 @mxpeterson: that's...unexpected
  • + 21
 Hand Dampf?!?! What is this the EWS?
  • + 153
 Nope, EWS has wwaayyy harder courses than this one.
  • + 9
 No, Leogang. Frown
  • - 3
 Good choice for a flow trail which is basically what this race course is.
  • - 12
flag ka81 (Jun 7, 2018 at 11:20) (Below Threshold)
 Hans Dampf are shitty tyres.
  • + 8
 Hans Dampf is good for E-bike festival.
  • + 10
 some people like it.. I tore lots knobs pre-2014, this version might be better. they should have it in DH carcass as well, not only MM and Dirty Dan.. I still want a SG Nobby Nic
  • + 29
 @mollow it's not a flow trail by any stretch of the imagination.
  • + 42
 @davetrumpore: let’s start with how many of Pinkbike commenters would send last years track at full speed... just because Phil Atwill rode it on a Dirt Jumper doesn’t mean 99% of mountain bikers in the world wouldn’t sht themselves about hitting most of those jumps after a week of practice and definitely not at full tilt.
  • + 6
 Seems like a few interesting detours this time: www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYjyahIZmOo
  • + 7
 Old Hans dampf was pretty good on the dry/"perfect soil" conditions for the first few rides, before side knobs start to tear apart. The redesign was long overdue, although I dont really get why the put the side knobs normal to riding direction.. but well tests and reviews will probably tell "its so much better and perfect middle spot between nobby nic and magic mary" and I kind of trust Schwalbe know what they´re doing.
  • + 2
 @GDPipsqueak: Ooh those new sections actually are actually awesome. Drop in, little jump, straight into off camber grass?! Let the camber-drifting begin!
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I'd crap myself immediately
  • + 4
 @daweil: no it can’t be good for anything else than desert. Maybe rear Down Country tyre. Why? Weird intermediate knobs and side knobs with little base which means they can’t dig in and even if they could they would squirm. MY assumption it is a tyre for people who can’t lean the bike anyways and here they are ridden as rear tyre by Schwalbe sponsored rider who needs a bit more braking grip than Rock Razor and is willing to sacrifice a bit of cornering. Otherwise he’d be running an Agressor or Assguy
  • + 2
 @ka81: Off course you know. You have been riding that tyre for long time even though it isn't in the shops yet Smile
  • + 0
 @mollow:

#douevenflowbro?
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns:

If Loic gives me his stumpjumper (which he's trolling us about riding) I'll send it at full tilt. Tho Mr. Atwill will still beat me on his DJ.
  • + 4
 @Vudu74: Have you looked at the track walk photo epic? Different beast this year!
  • + 2
 @JamesR2026: It does look like they put some time into it. Looks taped pretty wide too, so that will make it more interesting. I would watch them race down a side walk in all honesty though. I can't wait to see how the new lines settle in.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: Yeah I agree on all the facts you stated. But there are many riders who still profit from the design. You have to ride smooth, slow or maybe be a very light rider for the knobs to not squirm. But then they´re great. Really depends on the trail. For faster stuff or bikeparks they suck, but on slower dirt to hardpack and rock trails they deliver an absolute velcro feel IF not pushed over the limit. I personally don´t like the tire, and also much prefer the Rock Razor, you get a feel similar to carving on skis and its lovely especially combined with how quick it rolls, but in situations where you cannot lean the bike over the rear wheel is all over the place. I run Magic Mary snakeskin + Huck norris and RockRazor SG + procore both around 1,6 bar btw.
  • + 3
 @daweil: After I get into the season and get my aggro on I can barely ride 1plies on 160 bike on local trails in Gothenburg. I do it for the climbs it's a trade off. But when I go to a little bike park Vallåsen - half way to Denmark I need Super Gravity/ Double Down. I hate the wobblyness and tyre slamming into the rim. I need support from the sidewall.
  • + 2
 @daweil: by the way I consider myself smooth Smile I rarely just approach a rockgarden and go Fk thaaaaaaat I'll just ram into everythiiiing! (so called Moto Brits in Morzine style) I will sometimes stop and look were to put my weight down and where to be light on the next run. I put lots of attention to pumping the terrain Smile still, 1plies rarely cut it for me. I believe some people would get faster if they beefed up their tyres since beefy ones are confidence inspiring.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: Yep, the light carcass was another reason (besides having a third of the shoulder knobs gone on my old Hans Dampf) why I made the switch from ss to sg on the rear, even with procore and 1,8bar in corners the tire was completely folded over on my old unrideable 25mm inner width rims. Heavier rubber is so much better, who cares about some seconds on the uphill on a bike used everywhere from local trails to Alpine stuff.

Smooth I am not. Or well most of the time I try to, but I have to admit liking the feeling of BRAAPing into berms and riding stuff slightly above the intended use of my bike (who cares about that seriously anyways??). As for pumping the terrain, for sure I try to carry speed by getting light over rough stuff, but then when you´re heavy in the pump phase the ground is often times kind of rough aswell, thats where I got flats mostly. But that has been history since my tire inserts
  • + 2
 @daweil:

So you're liking the RR SG? Can you speak at all to longevity, rolling resistance, and traction?

For reference I've really liked the 29" Slaughter Grid in the past when it weighted 950 grams. They just updated it and now it's 100 grams lighter which can be felt on the trail as there's less support now Frown

The blue addix RR is 800g in 29 and feels pretty damn flimsy, but I'd consider the SG version if it still rolls fast but has the additional support i'm looking for. That tires profile on i30(ish) rims is mint.
  • + 4
 @WasatchEnduro: I can't talk about longevity of RR SG yet but judging by RR SS they did step it up in Addix generation. Basically before if I rode it in the dry and did one bigger rear wheel slide I'd tear a knob off directly. I had both Slaughter and MInion SS before and they are all comparable in terms of grip. Minion has best side knobs but worst center. While Rock Razor and Slaughter can give you a tiny glimpse of hope for climbing grip in mud, Minion SS doesn't. I killed Slaughter GRID with Huck Norris inside (one rock, three big cuts) theoretically it had the right to die, but then a friend punctured hers same way at little speed. So i'd say GRID was crap already so if they made it even thinner now, there's no point in buying it as anything else than front tyre for a down country bike.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns:

For real. Slaughter is now an xc/trail (dc) tire, even with the new fancy gripton. The old ones held up well for me minus a couple sloppy off camber landings that stretched the casing and created a hideous wobble. At least they cost less to replace than Schwalbes.

I like the design of those 3 tires enough that maybe i'll start shopping for a RR SG.
  • + 2
 @WasatchEnduro: stretched casings are a hallmark of Spesh since some time. I did stretch Minion DHF Exo on the fromt last weekend too but it had full right to do it. Landing off balance on a rock. No clue how I didn’t puncture
  • + 2
 @WasatchEnduro: I killed an old Pacestar RR SS, loved the thread but the very light carcass and the center thread dies too early. Got like 3 holes in the center area just because there are no knobs "protecting" the tire. I loved it but swore to myself to never buy a semislick again because it would get expensive to trash a tire so quickly. But then I saw the SG Trailstar (not addix yet) for 20€ and I just got it.

I really love the feeling of it, rolls insignificantly slower, wear I cannot tell yet, the 1150g tire is noticeably stiffer and dampens better. Feels great with procore at 1.5bar. Grip in the wet is a lot better than the old Pacestar compound.
  • + 3
 @daweil: update, finally managed to puncture the Snake Skin Rock Razor through the Procore. Lack of sidewall stability is surely to blame for it. Despite honest attempts I failed to puncture it in the rock gardens. I cased the last roller in a set of 3 on a flow trail. Not so hard but I think there must have been a rock sticking from it. I was a bit sideways so I think the tyre just folded and went all the way to the rim. Classic Schwalbe puncture. One hole in the sidewall by the bead, one at the top. But both holes are small and repairable. It is possible to roll on procore but I wouldn't call it something to finish an Enduro Race run on. You'll fk the tyre up.

I must say that last few days of fast conditions made me question the semi slick. It slides waaay too easily if not leaned. I lost the rear end on a couple of occasions when cornering through natural rollers. I think I'll test the Aggressor DD now.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: thanks for the review I was actually thinking of getting a RR for an endurance race... Hopefully I can catch your review of the agressor
  • + 3
 @mollow: please note, I rode in the bike park on a 160mm bike with a single ply casing. I was just trying to find the limit of Snake Skin + procore. I am more than satisfied with this. I will now try it with Super Gravity RR in Hafjell, unless it will be raining, then I'll take a real tyre, the Bontrager G5. I'll take the Agressor DD Dual Compound for the summer. I am back on Minion DHF MaxxGrip for the front in DD and stability isgood enough for me. To the way I ride it beats the Magic Mary any time of the day. The predictability, responsiveness for pushing into corners, the overall grip is just king. It's been bone dry here though. I know however that DHF Maxx Grip rides quite well in gloop. Anyhoo, my personal gradation for the front is like that: 1. Minion DHF 2. Minion DHR2/ bont G5, 3. Magic Mary 4. Butcher.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I was gonna try DHR2 on the front as well since I liked the grip it provided me on the rear so much... I've always been on DHF before and I love it so maybe I'll just stick with it... Silly tires are expensive to experiment nowadays
  • + 1
 @mollow: dhr 2 leans a bit less predictably than DHF, you want to edge it rather quickly, but not to the extent HRoller 2 would make you to. There is a certain level of transition from center to the side. To me DHF maxxgrip for the front is worth every penny. It would be great if it was cheaper but what can you do Smile DHR2 brakes better than dhf, you can slam the front brake with more confidence. So it’s a pay off. But it’s a good pay off. Bontrager G5 is almost identical and at least in Sweden it is cheaper than dhr2. For enduro and longer days in the saddle it rolls slower though. DHF is as an ultimate all rounder to me in my opinion, DHR2/ G5 feel to me as full on hardcore DH tyres. Brake hard, lean hard with good error margin. HRoller seems to me like a make it or break it tyre
  • + 15
 The guy who´s pedaling in the air needs his wheels weighted lol

Love Blenki though. Hope he can get something done this season. His start seemed promising.
  • + 14
 I do think it matters actually. When I put my bike in the workstand and spin the wheel up (heaviest gear, crank the pedals) the bike shakes considerably. And the wheels are true. I can imagine that balancing the wheels (and he's running 29", I run 26") should make the bike more steady in the air and might even hold grip better in fast corners.
  • + 17
 @vinay: I agree. Wheel balancing makes a lot of sense. It's done on cars for a reason. I don't know why pro racers would put those idiotic dampening stickers on their bikes when proper attention to the source of vibration is cheaper and scientifically proven.

@Loki87: Watching the last race my wife walked by "Is that guy pedaling in the air?" Yes, yes he is. And it is awesome.
  • + 6
 @vinay: what needs to be taken into account is that it's the tires that aren't balanced - they almost always have a heavier spot on them. spin your front wheel and watch as it eventually settles into one spot. even if you counter balance the few grams the stem weighs the tire is still the main culprit here, not the actual bare wheel itself. add in pooled sealant and you've just got another variable to deal with.
  • + 2
 @vinay: Last season I put latex balls into my tire sealant and tested to see if the tire would seal on larger cuts. Went to Angel fire bike park with trail casings just to get a slash. Latex balls made the difference of a sealed cut vs a flat tire. Downside was that the tire was completely unbalanced with the "extra" in the tire.

This is a brilliant solution to counter the off balanced tire! Inserts work great to protect the rim but a slash is still very possible, hinting the tire sealant with the latex balls.

BIKE INDUSTRY...
Instead of making things larger/smaller by .001mm how about more upgrades that make difference such as BALANCING TIRES! Especially if you are encouraging geo that goes faster...
  • + 10
 @JacobSpera: put sparkles in your sealant. It really helps for larger holes and if a tire blows it looks like a unicorn exploded
  • + 0
 @literally: Don't they balance a car wheel once the tire is on? I'd expect they'd do the same with this bicycle wheel. Not sure about the pooled sealant. Once the wheel is spinning, it should redistribute nicely. And if it doesn't spin along with the wheel, it doesn't contribute to the inbalance either.

@SpecializedRider013 Isn't that like the Peaty sealant?
  • + 13
 Awesome to see rider-specific customizations and tweaks atop the excellent production-grade design and engineering that each team uses. Mountain bikes are as rad as ever.
  • + 6
 The bikes are beautiful and photography is top notch! We are being spoiled.
  • + 13
 2 questions

1) why is Brayton still on the old gambler ?
2) could we please have statistics of how many wheels are broken per team during the event ?
  • + 22
 He rides for Hope who just happen to use Gamblers. The one the Scott team is running is a prototype
  • + 6
 I think Brayton is sponsored primarily by Hope. I'm not sure he has access to proto Scott bikes, as the Scott sponsored riders do.
  • + 1
 Ask to the Saracen crew, who knows how to read the what-rim-to-choose tips... jhmmm... gwin.... jhmmmm... 2014...
  • + 6
 The paint on it is too sweet to care about anything newer.
  • + 14
 i would think chains are the #1 topic in the pits....
  • + 23
 I heard if you just use one side of a split link it will give you just enough to get up to speed then fuck off and let the bike work properly and you win all races.
  • + 2
 SRAM chains popped under Stephen Hyde and Spencer Petrov in big cyclocross races last year as well. so, not just a suspension thing.
  • + 1
 Re-enforced with wires...
  • + 1
 @mm732:
Just throwing it out, but what drive train did the guy that won last week have. I can't remember?
  • + 1
 @sunringlerider: yea i guess their strategy is to sponsor enough people that a few of them make it. playing the numbers game. smart.

KTMs aren't very reliable either and they do the same thing in moto.
  • + 13
 i'm ready for the red forks to go away...too soon?
  • + 1
 Hell no... The red boxxer on the Kona makes no sense.
  • + 11
 is putting grease between the pivot bearing and the cap really a thing?
  • + 6
 If you want a mess then sure....
  • + 4
 It is recommended to keep dirt and water out. Especially for a world cup bike which will likely have all the bearings replaced after the weekend...
  • + 4
 The more grease at the outside of the bearing, the more dirt gets inside the bearing. All the lubrication happens inside the bearing. The grease inside the bearing keeps the water out.
  • + 2
 Maybe the plastic seals are taken out here? The photo look ambiguous though.
  • + 10
 I am now going to touch myself.
  • + 5
 "I pedaled nowhere, because I was so f#n not, but yeah, let see, if is enough for tomorrow I'll do the same, if not, I'll try to pedal" – Vali Höll youtu.be/tVis-24iYro
  • + 2
 Vali gonna dominate again I bet.
  • + 6
 goddamn that intense is art!
  • + 5
 "Nothing is left to chance in the Trek pits"

Oh.. so Rachel's chain breaking at Fort William was intentional? interesting..
  • + 4
 Is anybody else surprised not to see any shock lockouts this year? They seemed to be fairly common this time last year but I haven't seen anything of it this season
  • + 1
 Good call. I think teams were all about them last year to be ready for world champs in Cairns.
  • + 5
 Last year they were mostly testing the through the season for use at world champs in Cairns. None of these tracks would really benefit much from a lockout
  • + 3
 Two interesting things about Gees's Hope Tech 3 lever. It has a sawed off hook at the end of the lever and he's not using braided hose, just a regular one.
  • + 4
 regular one is lighter weight
  • + 5
 Hope tech 3 lever ball ends are not very comfortable. they need to look at shimano and magura levers for some inspiration.
  • + 1
 Braided hoses make little to no difference. My front brakes is regular, my rear is braided. I like braided hoses for stupid cable routing designs where the hose goes under the BB.
  • + 3
 Gee has always modified lever blades to make them flat. He did the same when he ran Shimano by just bending them straight. The brake hose thing is interesting. I've used braided and normal and can't tell the difference. Obviously Gee can't either. Normal hose is waaay easier to work with too, which I guess is a big deal when you're swapping stuff around as much as these guys.
  • + 4
 Jack Reading must be seriously colourblind for someone that calls himself an optometrist!
  • + 3
 Seeing so many bikes using one-off linkages and what not, it makes me wonder when you'll be able to dial up santa cruz and order up a "10% more/less progressive" rear end.
  • + 3
 "Foam in the depths of a Commencal Supreme frame to keep mud from sticking around" why is the hole in the frame at all?
  • + 7
 To accommodate larger shocks/piggybacks
  • + 8
 For his plea.. I mean, yeah, good question...
  • + 8
 It's more of a divot to allow the shock to fit.
  • + 0
 @mollow: strange decision
  • + 2
 It's not a "hole" per say, it's an indentation that allows space for the shock to sit nice and low in the bikes center of gravity.
  • + 25
 You put your weed in there.
  • + 4
 @fatduke: Actually it is a hole...right into the downtube. Hence the moto foam.
  • + 4
 @b-mack: The "hole" in the downtube was plugged with a machined or forged shock mount component that has a recessed portion for clearance. So it's no longer a hole, and technically, fatduke is correct.
  • + 6
 @mammal: technically it was a hole but no longer is a hole so @b-mack was correct but no longer is.
  • + 3
 @fatduke: technically it was a hole and still is a hole but also a divot as the two words are synonyms and the definition of hole is: a hollow space in a solid body or surface so everyone was correct and also incorrect.
  • + 4
 @fatduke: Pretty sure b-mack wasn't typing his comment while inspecting the factory production of the down tubes, so I'm still calling BS on the presence of the hole.

Toast2266 had the best call though. I'm old enough to understand the reference... SNL skits. www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFktbuhAyLM
  • + 2
 @mammal: you guys are funny. I’m basing my hole argument (pun) on the Supreme SX that I own...it’s the same basic frame and yes, it’s a big hole into the downtube. The motofoam is super thick and fills the void. But no, I haven’t personally checked to see if the V4.2 is exactly the same.
  • + 1
 @mammal: ps...I also own a 2018 Furious as well. It has a hole into the down tube with moto foam as well...so I’m just making an educated guess.
  • + 2
 @toast2266: In California we just put in our pocket
  • + 1
 Balancing the wheel is good idea I guess, but that's A LOT of weight!! Seems to be way off... looks weird to me. Never would of imagined a mtb wheel could be that bad...
  • + 7
 Sorry to be the grammar nazi but it's "would have" or "would've", but "would of" doesn't make any sense.
  • + 1
 Considering how many snapped chains occurred during Ft. William, I wonder if there's any special super technical pre-race chain checks.
  • + 1
 You know its a pro mech when he bleeds a WC bike brake with the wheel/rotor still on. If it was me I would have gotten oil everywhere...
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 Greasing outside the bearing shield... mmmmk...
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 So does the new V10 take 27.5 and 29? Ive noticed in some pics Kiran's bike has 40 stickers while all the Syndicate guys are running 49.
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 The flip chip on the rear axle suggests the bike can handle both sized wheels. Along with the switch of the fork as well of course.
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 Or maybe he has a 49 with 40 stickers?

I find it hard to believe that Santa Cruz is going to compromise the V29 so it can fit 27.5 (when was the last time a bike designed to fit multiple wheels sizes was as good as the one optimized for one wheel size) but this is the same company that rushed the Hightower LT to market so who knows.

The only guarantee is that it’s going to be expensive and Santa Curt doesn’t give two sh*ts whether you buy one or not. (Probably not)
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 @wibblywobbly: Maybe its designed around 29" wheels but can still run 27 for the people who want it does that make sense to you ?
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 Come on connor fearon!!!!
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 Is that Jordi guy from fox really old or really young, i can never tell?
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 Awesome! Been checking pinkbike on and off for hours waiting for an update.

Quick question , Who's Fearons mechanic ?
  • + 3
 Mathieu Dupelle is Connor's mechanic.
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 @mikekazimer: Thank you!
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 Thanks for the Gee reference......had forgotten he was still racing World Cups.
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 You wont see them on the podium, so...
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 What is the deal with balancing the wheel? Are all other wheels not balanced correctly?
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 valve on one side, no valve on the other.
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 @YouHadMeAtDrugs: Many rims have a counterweight for that, the tires are unbalanced.
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 Dont you have them on your car?
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 The blue DVO forks on the Giants look sick.
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 Does any one know where you can get after market Magura leavers like the flatter ones in the pics or are they proto only
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 The MT5s have flat ones but they're not the ones she has
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 Proto ones, some riders rode them in Fort Bill too! Think Magura is looking for something more rigid than the HC1/HC3 and standard leavers.
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 Not the prettiest welds on that Commencal. Especially the braces look like they almost melted away.
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 What grips are on Miranda millers bike?
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 sorry I did not post that
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 Brilliant pics. Nice work
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 HEY BICHHHHHH
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 sorry I did not post that!!!!
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 So many stupid gimmicks.
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 So much bling Drool
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 Procore
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